08/03/2017
- Updated Gabe's diff with previous mods.
- Added Secretpipe's Normal difficulty.
rew0825 wrote:
Hello from my modding queue :3General
- Gabe's Oni Tags isn't same other diff
Kin's Muzukashii
- change HP to 6 fixed
- 01:02:117 (136) - change to k? consistency with 00:48:596 (84) - the melody is the same, but the drum have now some snare. Changing it into k change nothing on the consistency
- 01:03:807 (142) - change to d? for consistency with 00:50:286 (90) -
- 01:05:498 (149) - change to d? for consistency with 00:51:976 (97) -
- 01:34:652 (44) - add finish?
- 01:40:990 (64) - add finish? changing it into big note doesn't suit the way I mapped & the melody
- 01:50:286 (86,87) - change to d all? look like the sound is same 01:49:864 (85) - I prefer the flow with k instead if d
- 01:53:878 (102,103) - ctrl+g? 01:54:089 (103) - the sound is higher than 01:53:878 (102) - I'll lose the emphasis on melody 01:54:300 (104,105,106) -
- 02:01:695 (135) - add finish? this beat isn't strong enough to be a finished
- 02:03:385 (142) - add finish? fixed
Aldwych wrote:
[Muzukashii]
00:14:793 (3,4,5) - Well it's up to you but why not dkd or kdk? Just for the melody variation?
the loop melody is exactly the same
00:17:751 (8) - This kind of note should be worth as d instead by listening to the music you can see it follows a kdkd structure. Well you got my point i guess.
00:31:272 (34) - ^
well, according the the pitch 00:17:751 - is higher than 00:17:328 - .
00:40:568 (53) - The structure is ok for me, nothing to say but my concerns are the layers or more precisely how you define to use d or k? Especially 00:43:526 (64,71) - these ones, why aren't they d instead? What overrides the beat at these places to deserve k?
00:43:526 (64) - for vocal/melody ; 00:45:216 (71) - flow/melody
00:54:406 (106,107) - Starting by here, you decided to turn your doubles into k? Why? Also i'm not fan of the double k by looking on the song and patterns, i'd rather see dk here (for """"natural""""" clap place) and kd at 00:56:096 (112,113) - because it sounds nice
I prefer to use monocolor for a muzukashii diff.
01:51:343 (91,92,93) - About the triples, i'm curious on how you defined the place to add them. Because they are not placed at the same place in the music, it look a bit messy. ye, made some change on triplet 1st part kiai
The last kiai part is okay even tho it is a bit technical between the 3/4 and triples, but it's fine for me.
thanks for mod!game rock wrote:
Hi! ^w^ Request from Pachiru owo
d
k
D (Big d)
K (Big k)
- [ Kin's Muzukashii]
HP: 6
OD: 4
- 00:35:497 (44) - Change to k to keep consistency with 00:27:892 (27,28,29,30) - 00:35:497 (44) - this note is quite simular to 00:28:737 (30) - . But actually, the 1st one is a D6 while the 2nd one a C6.
- 00:59:476 (125,126) - Change to k to keep consistency and drums 00:54:406 (106,107) - , 00:56:096 (112,113) - , 00:57:786 (119,120) -
- 01:06:237 (151,152) - ^ about those 2, I prefer to keep them as d to make the pattern easier. Also those one are the only dd on this part, since it's the end of the loop
- 01:35:920 (47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54) - Change to --> https://puu.sh/utVsy/03af12fcc1.png to keep consistency and the rhythm with 01:22:399 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ye, fixed
- 02:04:547 (149) - This drum is just a drum low, similar to 02:06:237 (157) - so please change to d the note 149. but in this case, i don't like how d flow D:
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P A N wrote:
[Kin]very nice mapset, good luck!
- 00:38:455 (4,5,1) - zig-zag pattern is more fit with the rhythm imo because it's downbeat-upbeat-downbeat. this pattern also fine, up to you. I really like this linear flow at this moment
- 01:21:554 (1) - no need NC imo. ye, NC by mistake, removed
- 01:44:793 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - use bigger spacing than 01:43:103 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) will emphasize the song better imo and give more impact (or you can make first stream less spacing if you feel the spacing is already large). ye, changed spacing on last part of the stream to 1.2
Toshino Kyoko wrote:
Hi Hi ! M4M :3Kin's Solitude
- I know it's a very little and minor nitpick, but here 00:32:117 (1,2,3) I think you can blank the sliders with the approach circle of the last one, cause when I move the sliders (don't know if I should do that but yolo) in the timeline to match the approach circle with curve of the slider it looks like this kinda minor, but I lose a lil bit the flow by blanketing here
- 00:47:645 (2,3) - not the same DS as the other (0.40/0.45) it's really minor since it's 0.37, anyway, fixed
- 01:21:554 (1) - Not sure about this NC wasn't intentional, fixed on previous mod
- 01:27:469 (6,1) - Can be blanket a little better
- 01:27:892 (1,2) - ^ because I wasn't even aiming blanket
- 01:29:793 - There's a sound here :c the sound here isn't really what I'm following, also, that's why I use a really sharp angle with the red tick on the slider instead of slider end (tho, in both case, it play passively)
- 01:56:202 (6,7,1) - I think that 180° angle jump doesn't fit with what the song is doing i don't really get what you mean since it's linear here
thanks for mod everyone!Alheak wrote:
Hey, M4Ticket
[General][Kin's Solitude]
- normal-hitnormal and soft-hitclap hitsounds have a 3ms lag
- add trap to tags
- possibly find a bigger bg
- your sprites needs to be bigger and have some antialiasing, they look really pixelated
- 00:27:047 (1,2) - i can understand why you would switch to circles here in this new section but why didn't you keep up with the idea? 00:28:737 (1) - 00:30:427 (1) - etc are still sliders as you said, those circle here are just made to mark difference since the cymbal crash make the next part a lil more "intense". But since I'm really following the melody/piano, I still prefer the usage of slider
- 00:30:004 (4) - you mapped this as a 1/1 circle in every other pattern except this one, it should be a 1/2 slider but it's a 1/2 slider here >_>
- 00:33:385 (4) - you mapped this as a 1/2 slider in every other pattern except this one, it should be a 1/1 circle it's already an 1/1 circle here >_>
- 00:57:047 (7,8) - these should be a 1/2 slider
- 01:00:427 (7,8) - ^ for both case, since the music is more intense due to the snare, I still prefer to keep those 2 cases as circle since they're also following vocal/melody
- 01:21:554 (1) - remove NC placed by mistake, removed on previous mod
- 01:48:174 - your kiai is quite inconsistent and i don't really understand what you're trying to follow especially in the second section 1st section is the melody ; 2nd section is the drum
- 01:49:441 (6,1) - this angle is a bit awkward to hit, also this need emphasis, the spacing is quite underwhelming compared to (5,6) that's what I call flow/breaking flow emphasis
- 01:56:202 (6,7,1) - why did you decide to suddenly have linear flow here on this combo, F# 1/2 spam melody are mapped something similar to a back & forth. I made this one different (linear in this case) ; since it's a D F# G
- 02:02:751 (6,7,8,1) - still linear flow kinda, (6,7) is awkward to hit and makes the transition into the stream play badly when I play it, the transition seems to be ok for me, and the linear flow make it easier to hit the stream. I might change it if another modder point it out
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effect.png is a animation in base of frames, if I will do that I must remake the animation with the frames in reverse, and for match the lyrics/downbeats, its really hard to do it because the timing snaps are not consistent, but I will see what I can do :/-Mo- wrote:
Storyboard
- 01:10:990 - 01:17:751 - I feel that the effect.png should cycle back to the start on these beats to match the lyrics/downbeat.
Instead of an animation it might be easier to just rename the files and toggle each element manually, but if you got it to work then that's fine.Cosmolade wrote:
effect.png is a animation in base of frames, if I will do that I must remake the animation with the frames in reverse, and for match the lyrics/downbeats, its really hard to do it because the timing snaps are not consistent, but I will see what I can do :/
to Mo : the current soft hitnormal is actually like this :Spork Lover wrote:
Yo, ticket from earlier :3 I was told that Pachiru is reworking parts of the insane diff, so I won't be modding that I'm gonna abide to the new guidelines in this mod to learn them well for the next BN test in like 4 months or whenever lol, just so you're all aware!
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The keysounding in the beginning (00:13:526 - to 00:27:047 - ) without any other type of feedback isn't really too good for gameplay - I can barely even hear the keysounding because it blends in with the music. There's hitnormal support obviously, but I don't know if you'd be able to add in a very quiet finish on parts like 00:13:526 - as well xd (It's probably just me being buyist towards keysounding regarding feedback but yeah ) Keysound is just a plus, there's currently nothing wrong, with the map being currently keysounded
AiMod points out that an epilepsy warning is needed. I agree with it (; The strobe at the kiai start and the flashing lights in the beginning might be enough.Kin's Solitude
00:16:906 (1,2,3) - this compared to 00:13:526 (1,2,3) - is way too different spacing wise, considering the music is the exact same here. I'd also just generally consider making the difficulty more calm in the beginning here untill 00:27:047 -
00:16:483 (4,1) - Pretty crazy spacing - It might be 1/1, but the song doesn't support a screen jump. (It's also inconsistent with the spacing you use on stuff like 00:23:244 (4,1) - for example) reduced for both case
00:24:934 (4,1) - You didn't do this type of overlap up untill now, making the aesthetic itself obsolete. If you added that overlap consistently in other places in the beginning, it would have a much better impact overall. I really can't see anything wrong with overlap here. The back & forth movement feel natural according to the melody being : E6 - F#6 - D6
00:35:075 (4,5) - Inconsistent spacing wise with 00:31:695 (4,5) - and 00:28:314 (5,6) - and the music is the same. I'd consider actually making the two large spacings smaller, 'cause I do feel it's still too much for this part. if you watch patterns closely with the melody, you should have notice, that some E6 - F#6 - E6 // E6 - F#6 - D6 use equal spacing while others have "normal" spacing+higher spacing
00:34:230 (2,3,4) - To me, the flow here is a little iffy - I'd find it better if the flow rotation changed on the downbeat rather than on the (3), so doing something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556289 would allow the clockwise rotation to continue for a bit (my suggestion is really unpolished, you can probably come up with something better here.) I'll only lose what I call flow emphasis. The changing direction on from those slider are here to emphasize the fact I'm really following the melody
00:57:047 (7,8) - I would probably put the 8 on a spot like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556306 instead because you're basically adding "square" flow to a map that didn't use square flow up untill now xd. well, it's actually a triangle flow
01:03:807 (7,1) - I feel like this is a liiittle too much spacing, I would decrease it a tiny bit. 01:02:117 (7,1) - this one is actually 0.2 bigger
01:26:624 (2,3,5,7) - The structure is quite iffy here - I'd suggest something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556328 (If you dislike those polygonal shapes, something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556335 might work too to add an overlap or something hm, it does really kill my spacing
01:29:159 (4,1) - Two things: 1: the slider is extended with a very clear red tick hitsound still present, so I would advice making the slider 1/2. 2: the overlap is weird because it overlaps the sliderend AND the sliderstart in two different ways (and 01:30:005 (2) - actually too lol) the main melody is actually a 1/1 E5 hold. You can also check it out on a sheet
01:36:131 (8) - What warrants this big of a jump compared to the linear flow from earlier? xd At least reduce it to something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556353 this. because 01:36:131 (8) - is a G5 while 01:34:652 (1,3,5) - is a D5 spam
01:43:103 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - There has been several occasions where maps have been disqualified for using streams that were too long for the way the difficulty is up untill that stream. I'd say this applies to this difficulty too, since you don't use 16-note streams for example up untill 01:41:413 - . I'd basically just add two kick sliders on 01:44:371 (5,6,7,8) - instead. because there's absolutely not point to use a stream in another place ? Also, the stream isn't a real difficulty spike problem according to jump & the kiai.
01:48:174 (1,2,3,4) - Why do you only use this twice? There's not really any pattern sense to this if you don't re-use it imo. Since you use it in the first two measures, you could use it on 01:55:145 - and 01:56:835 - too. because mapping the half kiai only back & forth is really boring
Also, I'd add a bit more sliders in the parts where you use like 16 single taps in a row, since that seems a little excessive considering the way you did the start of the kiai.
I'm honestly a little scared that BN's will point out that this map is overdone when they start looking at it.
I find the beginning to be too much for how calm this song is spacing wise. The rhythm is fine overall for the song, but I'd advice adding most of the peak stuff in the last half of the song, 'cause some of the difficulty spikes actually happen in the beginning and verse with little support. I'm only saying this as a heads up, 'cause I think BN's will mention fairly similar things here. ^^
there's nothing wrong about having the map difficulty of this kind :
02:03:385 - > 01:48:174 - > 01:34:652 - > 00:54:089 - > 00:40:568 - > 01:21:131 - > 00:13:526
I wish you guys luck!
Spork Lover wrote:
Hard
00:49:019 (1,2,3) - They seem to be pretty cramped visually - I'd probably seperate them in some way, can't come up with something from the top of my head though No, to me they are looking good since they are not overlapping each other. But I still moved the '3' to the left to let a equal space between each other.
00:54:089 (1,2,3) - It's better for these, they to follow those.
01:24:512 - hitsound where you goooo In fact, I reworked this part, same as Hyper and Insane, so if there is no hitsounds, it's not an error, it's intentional, we'll gonna update hitsounds to make them good as they were before changes as soon as possible don't worry ! (I'll not answer on each hitsounds mods since you know why now
01:27:892 - I'd add one here too, there's nothing in the music that says that there shouldn't be one at least, it sounds underwhelming this way xd
02:01:695 (1) - Even as a 3-digit player I find that to be really mean, considering you havn't used 5-way reverses before this one, and you use reverses a lot ^^ I'd advice using a 1/2 slider + a 3-way reverse instead. (You do this suggestion on the Hyper) In fact, I agree with the fact that it's not predictable, but since there is a new combo, it can make the player notice about that. If there is a REAL problem, then I'll fix it definitely.Hyper
00:42:258 - Whistle + NC, i think you forgot ;o
00:44:582 - Whistle
00:55:145 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - A lot of hitsounds missing here
01:35:920 (4) - hitsound on this note?
01:36:765 (7) - ctrl+g for consistency with 01:34:652 (1,2,3) - ? Added.
01:37:610 (1,2,3,4) - I only see this once in your map apart from 02:02:962 (3,4,5,6) - , don't really understand why that first one is there. I find it even weirder, because all of those sliders 01:41:413 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - are passive rhythms, and not clickable ones. I'd probably make the 4 notes of the stream into a 4-way reverse instead like the passive ones, or I'd make a 4-note stream in the beginning of the 2 sections with the sliders ^^ Fixed.
01:55:990 (4) - ctrl+g gives a jump to 01:56:624 (1) - like you did on stuff like 01:58:103 (5,1) - Fixed.
01:58:737 (2) - This slider isn't really leading to the 3, and looks kinda out of place this way xD I moved the slider before and the 2 after as well: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556225 and https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556232 Indeed, I fixed it, but I didn't changed the second slider like you did. I changed into an other way, like it could flow into the next pattern.
02:00:850 (5,6,7) - I wouldn't make this linear after a 6-note jump part. ctrl+g'ing 7 works Fixed.
02:01:695 (1,1) - hmm, maybe remove NC on the 2nd slider? I know it's a special part, but the rhythm isn't too different here. Fixed on -Mo-'s mod.
-Mo- wrote:
- 00:50:286 (3) - Nudge this one oe two units to the right so that the gap between 1-2-3 is about the same. Fixed.
- 01:24:512 (4) - 01:27:892 (2) - 02:12:997 (4) - 02:14:688 (5) - rip hitsounding As I said on Spork Lover's mod, I reworked this part on Hard, Hyper and Insane, so it's normal, they'll be back as soon as possible.
Hyper
- 00:42:258 (6) - 00:44:371 (2) - 00:55:357 (5,1,2) - 01:35:920 (4,5) - 02:07:927 (6) - 02:12:997 (6) - 02:14:688 (6) - Hitsounds. Same as Hard.
- 01:26:624 (2,3,4,5) - Maybe offset these in someway so it's not just a boring straight line? You can do whatever you want here.Applied.
- 01:58:737 (2,3,4) - This just looks odd to me for some reason, having two surved sliders facing the same way arranged like that. Maybe change slider 4 for some variety? Applied.
- 02:02:117 (1) - Doesn't need an NC I believe. Fixed.
Insane
-01:06:765 (4,5) - Maybe flip these around so that 2-3-4 makes a sharper angle and the flow is more comfortable? I reworked all this part.
- 01:30:005 (2,3,4) - Hitsounds.
Ranking Criteria wrote:
Every .wav file must be at least 100ms long to prevent issues with soundcards. If you want a silent/blank hitsound, then you must use a silent .wav file.
Hitsounds from notes and sliders must be audible. These provide feedback for the player, and having them silent in a rhythm game doesn't make much sense. If you don't like the default sounds, then find replacements rather than silencing notes. You can use hitsounds from the Custom Hitsound Library or easily find others online. Lowering the volume of a few notes to provide a dampened effect is usually fine, but complete silence is always unacceptable. The end of a spinner (or even the entire spinner) the sliding sound of a slider, and the end of a slider can be silent, but only do it if it makes sense. Finally, you cannot silence both slider ticks and slider slides together.It could have been a problem in a case, where it was normal-hitnormal/soft-hitnormal instead of whistle.
ye, I've just checked every diff. And it's missing on the Insane diff. Thanks for checking again!P A N wrote:
eh I listen to the song but i found clap on 01:30:005 (2) and 01:30:216 (3) 's tail is missing
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Pachiru wrote:
24/03/2017
- Deleted Chromoxx' Taiko diff.
- Fixed some minor stuffs with Normal, Hard, Hyper, Insane, thanks to Asaiga and Kami-senpai's mod!
Asaiga wrote:
Hello, from in-game request :3
[Secretpipe's]
01:56:202 (4,1,4) - somehow feel touching, maybe move slider(1) to the right a bit thus lower its angle for better performance Fixed.
00:18:174 (3,4,3,4) - Also I find it's weird that the only times 1/2 pattern appears are these two, in the kiai or the later part in general isn't introduced anymore. I understand that music doesn't support it well but then the existance of 1/2 pattern is pretty faint imo. Maybe not include that in your diff or have it appeared again somewhere. From what I hear, the keysound blends pretty well with the music, I can't distinguish even try turning my effect volume to zero. So I think you can skip that red tick there if you wanted to map it for keysound. I also fixed it in an other way. Instead of having some part in the difficulty that didn't have 1/2 even when there was this piano sound, so I added 1/2 when it needs during the begining.
[Hard]
01:41:413 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - I wonder if these multiple reverses suit here on Hard diff. Since Hyper has those, I think the difficulty spread will be more even if you map with only one reverse arrow. To support this, Normal and Easy has only spinners So, for this one, I agree with you, first, I was quite... reflecting about this idea, but indeed, this deserve a nerf, so I took your idea, thanks.
[Hyper]
00:42:258 (6) - Why this measure doesn't get NC? Fixed, my bad.
01:39:723 (2,3) - Although I get it's a pattern idea, but the spacing doesn't make sense with the rest of this section. Because 01:40:145 (3,4) - this sounds like it can be a jump too, (4) has higher pitch Yes, I fixed it.
02:00:850 (5,1) - I think the stack is off here I don't understand what you wanted to mean, but to me it looks good, since there is no issue with it.
Something inconsistent here :
#meaasure1: 01:48:174 (1,2) - a pair of straight sliders.
#m2 : 01:49:864 (1,2) - ^
#m3 : 01:51:554 (1,2) - ^
#m4 : 01:53:244 (1,2) - a pair of curve sliders
And the next measure repeats the melody. So I think it's better to make it in a noticeable pattern of pair sliders. Like straight-straight-curve-curve.
*It's a minor nazi stuff, you don't have to apply it if it ruins the map xd*
I wanted to do different kind of pattern with all a different style, to avoid the boringness of this part. And I didn't use a proper pattern, to avoid the player to prevent those slider events, that's also why they are using different directions while playing them.
The rest looks ok
[Insane]
00:15:216 (3) - I think NC here better than from 00:14:793 (1) - . I understand your idea but NC from 00:14:793 - doesn't help players indicate the sv change or does it? Or (better) change all of your slow slider's shapes to something special, more easy to recognize Yes! Indeed, that make the map more easy to read, at least for the begining, and it can avoid dumb fails, so yes, that's fixed!
00:26:624 - Starting here I think it's better to have curve sliders as indicator for sv changed sliders, the rest can just use anchored or straight slider. The players will pick up the information fast enough from the previous section I also applied here, to avoid unconsistancy with NC, since the rhythm is still the same during all this part.
Pretty short, hope it's valuable in some ways ^^
Good luck!
Sure it was helpful, thanks a lot for your mod Asaiga!
Kami-senpai wrote:
hiya moddu desu
[Insane]00:38:455 (1,2,3) - for the other parts with this sound, they were sort of equal distances, so maybe make this same distance apart as well Yes, but since there is a "strong" sound on the last note, I wanted to emphasize it by doing a jump here.
01:06:343 (2,1,2) - the flow between these seems a bit too linear, especially with the distance betwee 01:06:343 (2,1) - being much smaller than 01:06:554 (1,2) - , makes it sort of weird to aim. Maybe ctrl g 01:06:765 (2,3) - these two and 01:07:188 (4,5) - ctrl g these two as well to keep same pattern, just flipped Indeed, I fixed it.
01:07:610 (1) - maybe put this where the ring appears in the SB? or put the ring where this note is The ring wasn't really supposed to be in the center o:
01:27:047 (4) - this note is more emphasized than the other ones, but the distance between 01:26:835 (3,4) - is smaller than 01:27:047 (4,5) - . I actually think, with this sort of pattern, it would be beset if everything was the same distance apart For this part, I didn't really wanted to use jumps here, since it's more a slow part.
01:54:934 (1,2,3,4) - maybe make this a square? No, because it would make a really big jump between 01:55:568 (4,5) - and it wouldn't be really adapted for the diff.
02:13:526 (3,4) - i would make this a noticeably bigger distance jump than 02:13:103 (1,2) - because its on a downbeat and is more emphasized imo Indeed, I really understand your point, and you're partly true. But on this part of the map, I wanted to focus my jumps on the vocals, as I did in the first part, but more "marked" because the kiai was here, and the voice were more intense. Otherwise, that's a very nice catch!
[Hyper]00:56:624 (3,4,5,6) - square seems a tad off I didn't really understand that point, but I think I got it !
01:24:089 (4) - maybe put this up more so its similar to the 1/2 slider positions before it Since it's the ending of the slider, I think that it shouldn't be like that, because that would "kill" the flow in my opinion.
02:00:005 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - could maybe fix this up a bit to be more perfect of a triangle I didn't really wanted to make a perfect triangle here, but more a small challenging jump.
[Hard]01:07:610 (1) - put this down a little more so it makes a diamond with 01:06:976 (3,4,5) - ? right now looks kinda weird Fixed.
im bad at modding easier diffs
good luk Arigathanks Kami! ~
blame spotty :cShyotamaze wrote:
Salut, requête de ma modding queue (non j'suis pas en retard)
General
- http://prntscr.com/eosmfo :thinking:
Kin wrote:
Oh, I misread my bad, I though you were talkin about delay.
Anyway, fixed
http://puu.sh/uHSZ4/e03c62fbc0.rar
thanks for checking back
Monstrata wrote:
Insane
Okay, really not a big fan of the intro. You confuse visual spacings very frequently. Like 00:13:526 (1,2,3) - both 1/1 and 1/2 rhythms are mapped to the same visual distance. 00:16:906 (2,3,4,5) - etc..
00:25:357 - it gets better after here though. You start using stacks and noticeably larger spacings to denote the 1/1 gaps.
02:04:230 (1,2) - 02:06:237 (2,3) - 02:09:618 (2,3) - etc... Spacings are sometimes messed up in your streams, or they just arne't consistent. Please go through your kiai section again with this in mind.
Pretty clean difficulty, bar the inconsistencies.
I applied everything, and I reworked a lot the end of the map, especially the end of the Kiai. I did that to make it more consistant with spacing, and also with rhythm use. I don't know if you'll check again the diff, but I did my best to make it "easier" and more consistant to play.
I also added some notes in the begining to add some flow, and also, I moved some sliders to keep distance consistancy between notes~
Hyper
01:02:328 (6,1) - Make this smaller please. Circle > Slider jumps are a lot more difficult than slider > slider jumps. As well, the way you set up this jump isn't good because 5>6>1 is a very linear movement that doesn't allow for good snapping xP.
01:05:497 (5,6,1) - Is much better in terms of angle. I still recommend making the spacing smaller when you do circle > slider jumps since you can't release early, or position your cursor to the edge of the slider-end / prepare the jump as easily compared to sliders.
01:24:089 (4,5,6) - Could be more consistent here in terms of visual spacing
I applied everything here too. Also the comment you made about "circle > slider jumps" are very useful and interesting. Thanks for pointing out that
Hard
00:16:483 (1,2) - Poor rhythm choice imo. Why are you making the slider-ends the stronger beats. It's really noticeable, especially since you made 00:14:371 (2) - clickable just before.
00:23:244 (1,2) - ^etc.. seems like a consistent rhythm you are using, but its a poor variation imo. If you want an alternative rhythm choice, do something like this: using a repeat arrow so you still get the click on the downbeat but also some change in gameplay (reverse movement).
02:01:695 (1) - Not good imo. The first note on 02:01:695 - is much diferent from the other white ticks: 02:01:906 - etc...
I changed all the stuffs and moved some sliders and circles in the begining, I took into account what you said about the rhythm use in the begining and I changed this to make it more cool to play, so the begining have been changed. Also, I changed the slider as you said. Indeed a lot of people told me to change this, but to me it looked good. After looking what you said about first note of the slider, I noticed that indeed, it needs to be changed. So I made a 1/2 slider → 4 circles to fit with the song.
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The spread between Hard and Secretpipe's Normal needs work. Secretpipe's Normal is literally an Easy with a few 1/2 repeats here and there, whereas your Hard is full of 1/2 and even 3/4 rhythms.
J'ai tout apply, en effet, il y avait beaucoup de bonnes idées dans ton mod, d'ailleurs pour le début, j'ai fix tout ça avec la réponse du mod de Monstrata si jamais tu veux checker.Shyotamaze wrote:
Salut, requête de ma modding queue (non j'suis pas en retard)General
- http://prntscr.com/eosmfo :thinking:
- Pas d'epilepsy warning dans la Gabe's Oni et la Kin's Muzukashii?
InsaneBonne chance ! Un peu la flemme de mod le reste orz mais le set a l'air cool
- 00:27:047 (2,3,4) - le DS devrait être + grand entre 3-4 qu'entre 2-3 pour bien emphasize le son du piano ou jsp quoi sur 4, pareil ici 00:30:427 (2,3,4) - 00:33:807 (2,3,4) - 00:37:188 (2,3,4) -
- 00:50:286 (5,6) - Tu pourrais les placer comme ça plutôt pour une meilleure structure + meilleur flow https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7665713 (je l'ai fait vite fait mais tu comprends le principe) et en + ça évite l'overlap "moche" ici 00:49:441 (2,5) -
- 01:06:554 (1) - Enlève le NC
- 01:35:920 (4,5,1) - Ils ont tous un son important mais 5 est mal emphasize à cause du flow linéaire :/ un moyen de régler ça serait de stack 01:36:131 (5) - sur le sliderhead de 01:35:497 (3) - par exemple, pareil ici 01:38:878 (3,5) - (t'en fais pas pour le DS qui sera pas régulier, c'est justement un bon endroit pour mettre un jump imo)
- 01:40:145 (5,6,7,8,9) - Ce genre de flow est pas confortable du tout à jouer imo vaudrait mieux mettre 01:40:779 (9) - + vers le haut genre comme ça http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7665787
thanks for the mod!Monstrata wrote:
Kin's Solitude
00:16:483 (4,1) - 00:21:765 (5,1) - These just feel way too big for the intro imo. After going through the map, these jumps felt very similar to most of the jumps you put on kiai sections and other denser sections of the song. It doesn't feel characteristic for the song here, when the song clearly isn't as intense as later.
00:25:145 (5,1) - Same idea here.
00:33:385 (4,1) - 00:36:765 (4,1) - ^ I reduced a lot of "jump" in the intro, except this one : 00:37:188 (1) -
00:48:385 (6) - Stacking this with 00:47:751 (3) - 's head fits your flow better imo, and leads into 7 without creating as sharp an angle. seems good, fixed
00:56:835 (6,7) - Ctrl+G gives it a nice flow + angle. ctrl G gives a nice flow, but I don't really like how it change the spacing
01:00:638 (8) - How about a smaller jump here or something? Since the note here is quite low and its different than the other jumps you mapped to. I kept the back & forth, but used a different spacing for the last circle
01:58:103 (8) - How about stacking with one of 01:57:047 (3,4) - ? The angle from 7>8>1 could be nicer. I really like the back & forth mouvement on this part
Pretty clean map. Some angles you picked were a bit questionable though, but I only mentioned the ones that were especially poor for me.
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484,198,123702,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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299,29,124441,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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356,280,125392,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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477,162,127081,1,0,0:0:0:0:
483,217,127187,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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302,267,127716,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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22:29 Pachiru: oh
22:29 Pachiru: hey
22:29 Gabe: cc
22:29 Pachiru: ca va?
22:30 Gabe: oué et toi?
22:30 Pachiru: moui
22:31 Pachiru: tu pourras jouer la advanced sur Alone quand t'auras un peu de temps pls ?
22:31 Gabe: hm
22:31 Gabe: right now
22:31 Pachiru: <3
22:34 Gabe: 01:31:272 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - J'ai eu un orgasme.
22:35 Gabe: BREF
22:35 Gabe: Qui a fait la première partie?
22:35 Pachiru: pourquoi? o:
22:35 Pachiru: moi j'ai fais toute la premiere partie, et le kiai
22:35 Pachiru: noffy a fait aprés la pause
22:35 Gabe: Ouais, je vois avec les bookmarks
22:35 Gabe: tkt
22:35 Gabe: LOL
22:36 Pachiru: ^^
22:36 Gabe: Okay, ce que j'adore de ton mapping, c'est ta consistance
22:36 Pachiru: C'est a dire? owo
22:36 Gabe: Bin..
22:36 Gabe: 00:16:483 (1,2) - Ceci, par exemple
22:36 Pachiru: oh o/
22:37 Gabe: Ce qui m'a troublé un peu, c'est ça 00:23:244 (1,2) -
22:37 Gabe: car ce n'est pas stack D:
22:37 Pachiru: j'avoue o:
22:37 Pachiru: bien vu
22:37 Gabe: mais pourtant, lui il l'est 00:36:765 (1,2) -
22:37 Gabe: so eheh
22:37 Pachiru: c'est important selon toi? o:
22:37 Gabe: bah ouais
22:37 Gabe: c'est le but du mapping
22:37 Pachiru: ok je fix ça alors
22:38 Pachiru: en tout cas merci pour l'info :)
22:40 Pachiru: Fixed~
22:41 Gabe: il manque les hitsounds, j'imagine?
22:42 Pachiru: Oui oui t'inquiète pas, mais Kin va les faire o/
22:42 Gabe: 01:05:920 (4) - NC plz
22:42 Pachiru: done~
22:44 Pachiru: c'est noffy qui l'a fait
22:44 Pachiru: 01:21:131 (1) -
22:44 Pachiru: 01:48:174 (1) -