Ayane - Azurite no Hitsugi

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Normal 没啥毛病的说

Misure's Hard
  1. 01:22:810 (1,2,3) - 嗯,感觉这里滑条sv变化不够明显,还可以稍微快点;


PinkHeart's Insane
唉,不会打串(
  1. 00:19:861 - break time可以移到这里;
  2. 00:30:786 (2) - ctrl g看起来舒服一点;
  3. 00:38:243 (5,6,7) - 好别扭啊;
  4. 00:52:983 (8) - 这个note去掉比较好,和前面节奏能对的上;
  5. 01:50:729 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 连打有点牵强,像是硬塞进去的一样;
  6. 总体上说,kiai段整部分没啥大问题,除了一些看起来不是很自然的遮挡;不过 00:39:283 到 01:01:480 的部分似乎有点不太自然,个人更喜欢稍微随意的排列,以及尽量避免用太多的几何形状


Kaedeka's Extra
  1. 00:07:376 (5) - 歪了;
  2. 00:24:717 (1,2,3,4) - 这里拐的有点难看;
  3. 01:23:330 (6,7) - 这个跳有点大啊;
  4. 01:32:000 (1) - 这里尽量避免重叠还是,不好看;
  5. 01:39:630 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ???
  6. 01:42:405 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^
  7. 01:53:503 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^


Isotoria
  1. hp9?
  2. 01:33:561 (2,3,4) - 闻到了arles的味道;
  3. 01:39:977 (4,5) - 这里偏向替换成3个note这样的pattern;
  4. 01:44:833 (1) - 不好看;


最后一个难度真的6星吗。。我以为在打arles。。
嗯基本上就这些,GL~
Topic Starter
Fushimi Rio

sodarose wrote:

[Istoria]
我从hp9里看出你对难图的别有用心以及人间世道的险恶 可不是么.jpg
00:34:438 (1,1) - 这里可以stack,还能避免00:35:825 (1,1) - 他俩撞一起 那打起来就很别手了 甩不出去
00:39:814 (1,2) - 个人不是很喜欢这种排列 反正简单 怎么摆也差不多
01:27:328 (1,1,2,3) - 看起来各种难受 ar9.6看不出来
01:22:993 (3) - 结尾的音效听不出来,感觉用Normal-hit更好 有个音就行了 normal太强
01:39:640 (1,2,3,1) - 不知道这里错开是不是故意的,但是感觉错的间距不对 是一样的啊
难度分布太不均匀了,打起来难受

[PinkHeart's Insane]
01:21:952 (5) - 结尾的音效听不出来,感觉用Normal-hit更好 同上

Ryuusei Aika wrote:

from queue
上边说的tag啥的我就不说了

Normal
01:46:923 (2) - 这里改成个1/2会比较好吧 也没好到哪去 该强调的还是得强调……

Pinkheart
00:50:218 (9) - 滑条尾弄clickable吧
01:50:565 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 个人感觉这串不是很必要啊,这里是很明显的1/2 是吗 我听着像串

Istoria
HP9太凶残了
01:33:571 (2,3,4) - 我的天哪.jpg 这还挺好打的……
01:48:311 (2,3,4) - ^ 结果你挑了最好打的两个写出来
01:33:918 (1) - 这不需要nc吧 不加有followpoint 丑
01:37:559 (1) - ctrl+J再稍微移一下位置感觉会比较顺 没必要 反向flow强调重音
01:50:739 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 同Insane你们怎么都map上这块了我有点慌 可不是么.jpg
这难度太疯了

gl :D

_Yiiiii wrote:

来辣
前几天看见的时候还想塞个gd呢...没想到insane那块已经塞满了...QAQ

  • Istoria
  1. 00:36:345 (2,1) - 这里间距可以再大一点,否则较于这里00:35:999 (2,1) - 就有点小了。 是这个道理 但是找不到特别好的位置摆滑条
  2. 01:30:623 (1,2) - 这个间距不合适吧?之前这么大也就1/4拍。 能读
  3. 01:54:207 (1,1) - 这个怎么读都是1/6的...你可以试试把这个换成1/8的滑条,这样会好读一些,否则这下节奏变化就太突然了。没见有人读成1/6啊


PinkHeart's Insane
  • 这个难度的话...感觉就是很套路的那种,本身没什么问题,不过就是在这个spread上好像不太合适,串太长了,而且有些让新人砸键盘的滑条遮挡,比如01:37:559 (1,1) - 01:00:103 (6,1) - 等等,所以我建议 @一抹多 再加个送分的insane来补spread,如果你也觉得需要的话我可以来做一个。顺便这个难度的看起来像blanket的基本都能再包得更好一点。 需要的时候再找你


lol

-Spica- wrote:

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Normal 没啥毛病的说

PinkHeart's Insane
唉,不会打串(
  1. 00:38:243 (5,6,7) - 好别扭啊; 没感觉到
  2. 01:50:729 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 连打有点牵强,像是硬塞进去的一样;跟的不是鼓 感觉没问题
  3. 总体上说,kiai段整部分没啥大问题,除了一些看起来不是很自然的遮挡;不过 00:39:283 到 01:01:480 的部分似乎有点不太自然,个人更喜欢稍微随意的排列,以及尽量避免用太多的几何形状 个人风格不同


Isotoria
  1. 01:39:977 (4,5) - 这里偏向替换成3个note这样的pattern; 摆开了后面好打 拧一坨太蠢
  2. 01:44:833 (1) - 不好看;是有点 等有空换个


最后一个难度真的6星吗。。我以为在打arles。。bpm低啊 朋友
嗯基本上就这些,GL~
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Q

[Istoria]
00:19:861 - spinner instead of break?
00:24:977 (6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - looks hard to see imo.
01:13:792 (5,1) - avoid overlap
01:19:515 (3,4) - stack?
01:28:359 (1,2,3,5) - looks too near, put them far.
01:30:613 (1,2) - looks hard to read,

GL
[Kamiya]
来了。

[Misure's Hard]

00:19:862 (1) - clap?

[Kaedeka's Extra]

00:58:705 (1,2,3,4) - 这里1.7x估计够了 ,间距大的太明显了。

01:20:208 (1,2,3,4) - 这里可以间距拉大点,01:23:330 (6,7) - 这里太大显的有些故意的。


[Istoria]
你hp9感觉一开始的连打就差不多死光了兄弟真是太棒了
所以对于连打部分的个人意见感觉间距大没问题,首尾不接上感觉不会打了(个人认为 而且我对大间距连打确实不擅长)

00:40:497 (2) - 直接放在00:40:671 (3) - 上面感觉更舒服些

01:26:971 (2,3) - 这个摆放感觉有些别扭,建议01:26:971 (2) - 放01:27:665 (1) - 首部 01:27:145 (3) - 差不多在x:272 y:304附近
01:27:318 (1,2) - 这里距离就再拉长一点

水平有限,多多包涵 :)
Yumeno Himiko
您预订的一份m4m

[General]


[Normal]
00:19:861 - break 这边开始吧 跟别的diff对上
00:27:838 (6) - 这个有必要吗 我觉得删了节奏可能更好点
00:48:995 (2) - 尾巴clap?
01:38:416 (3,4,1,2) - 这个节奏我觉得在normal不太好,本身距离也比较相似难判断是1/2还是1/3,建议换几个滑条
01:51:942 (2,3,4) - 这里也是,按起来的感觉也不舒服,要都跟的话我觉得后面的换成2个slider比较好,不全跟可以换一个长slider带过
01:54:717 (2,3,4) - ^

[Misure's Hard]
01:22:983 (3,4) - 打的时候感觉有点别扭,应该是没跟vocal的锅,换成一个circle+一个reverse slider?

[PinkHeart's Insane]
00:22:636 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这边跟后面的,H跟这个I的差距有点大啊忽然就冒出来一堆串……跟2个x的差不多 有点担心spread问题
00:54:544 (6,7,8) - 个人觉得7不太适合放跳,这边instrument基本没音
01:21:422 (2,3,4) - 这边的音逐渐急促了,不放跳吗?
01:48:648 (1,2,1) - 这个flow很别扭啊,尤其是用01:49:341 (1)去stack滑条尾,我觉得stack滑条头可能更好点

[Kaedeka's Extra]
00:37:029 (2) - NC 前面刚变速完
00:52:809 (5) - 挪开点放感觉更好吧,stack在这里移动稍微有点奇怪?
01:08:763 (3) - ctrl+G
01:22:809 (2) - NC
01:39:630 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 爷爷这梗好难啊 跟妹桑一样在1/6的地方用白色combo吧
01:42:405 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^
01:47:954 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^
01:53:503 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^

[Istoria]
01:22:809 (2) - NC sv change
太没人性了 好多反人类梗啊

瞎摸的 祝起飞 以后m4m还是发个pm为好,我突然多了3个m4m想死啊
KaedekaShizuru

-Spica- wrote:

Kaedeka's Extra
  1. 00:07:376 (5) - 歪了;fixed
  2. 00:24:717 (1,2,3,4) - 这里拐的有点难看;微调了下 不会摆串
  3. 01:23:330 (6,7) - 这个跳有点大啊;进副歌当然要大跳
  4. 01:32:000 (1) - 这里尽量避免重叠还是,不好看;故意的
  5. 01:39:630 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ???
  6. 01:42:405 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^
  7. 01:53:503 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^ 1/6 妹桑背锅

[Kamiya] wrote:

来了。

[Kaedeka's Extra]

00:58:705 (1,2,3,4) - 这里1.7x估计够了 ,间距大的太明显了。连续3串间距X2 单点又不是大间距连打 没问题

01:20:208 (1,2,3,4) - 这里可以间距拉大点,01:23:330 (6,7) - 这里太大显的有些故意的。我觉得现在这样就刚好

Yumeno Himiko wrote:

[Kaedeka's Extra]
00:37:029 (2) - NC 前面刚变速完 绿线放错位置了 哎嘿
00:52:809 (5) - 挪开点放感觉更好吧,stack在这里移动稍微有点奇怪?要的就是这个效果
01:08:763 (3) - ctrl+G no thx
01:22:809 (2) - NC 感觉没有必要
01:39:630 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 爷爷这梗好难啊 跟妹桑一样在1/6的地方用白色combo吧
01:42:405 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^
01:47:954 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^
01:53:503 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^
谢摸
Flower
[lstoria]
可能你是粉心的双胞胎吧
soft normal音效太没打击感了,这一点你们俩也蛮像的(呸我还有脸说别人)
我也说不出什么来,建议问下星爷
00:28:185 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 我认为应该这里用超大间距,而00:28:879 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这里反而应该小,因为音乐前者更激昂
00:33:041 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ^
00:33:734 (1) - 还有这个不太美观
01:21:942 (1) - 这个的白锚点也可以修一下. 然后感觉可以延长1/4

[shizuru's ex]
ar可以加到9.2?
00:48:994 (6) - 白锚点修一下可以更对称
01:10:324 (3) - 微调
01:21:942 (1) - 感觉可以延长1/4

[PinkHeart's in]
00:17:087 (1) - 考虑到滑条头被遮挡,这里几乎不能读出是往哪个方向走的,建议稍微张开点
01:28:359 (3,4) - 可以用降低音量的normal sample
01:33:387 (1,2,3,4,5) - 都可以用normal,很慷慨激昂
01:34:428 - 加上normal,01:34:081 (6,7,8) - 这一段加上渐弱绿线
01:39:197 (2,3) - drum sample
01:50:729 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
01:56:191 (5) - ^

hard和insane之间差距有点大,不过上面那些人不会管的吧,祝好运
Topic Starter
Fushimi Rio

Neoskylove wrote:

Q

[Istoria]
00:19:861 - spinner instead of break? spinner is too hard for hp9 imo
00:24:977 (6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - looks hard to see imo. testplays looks fine now
01:13:792 (5,1) - avoid overlap I prefer current placement
01:19:515 (3,4) - stack? k
01:28:359 (1,2,3,5) - looks too near, put them far. haven't found a better way to arrange this
01:30:613 (1,2) - looks hard to read, same to 00:24:977

GL

[Kamiya] wrote:

来了。

[Istoria]
你hp9感觉一开始的连打就差不多死光了兄弟真是太棒了 可不是吗
所以对于连打部分的个人意见感觉间距大没问题,首尾不接上感觉不会打了(个人认为 而且我对大间距连打确实不擅长) 这个bpm第一串我就压不住 还是得找人试试

00:40:497 (2) - 直接放在00:40:671 (3) - 上面感觉更舒服些 也差不多 特地搞了个别手的突出人声

01:26:971 (2,3) - 这个摆放感觉有些别扭,建议01:26:971 (2) - 放01:27:665 (1) - 首部 01:27:145 (3) - 差不多在x:272 y:304附近 我也不太喜欢这个 重新做了个梗
01:27:318 (1,2) - 这里距离就再拉长一点 不好意思 没听懂……?

水平有限,多多包涵 :)

Yumeno Himiko wrote:

您预订的一份m4m

[General]


[Normal]
00:19:861 - break 这边开始吧 跟别的diff对上
00:27:838 (6) - 这个有必要吗 我觉得删了节奏可能更好点
00:48:995 (2) - 尾巴clap?
01:38:416 (3,4,1,2) - 这个节奏我觉得在normal不太好,本身距离也比较相似难判断是1/2还是1/3,建议换几个滑条
01:51:942 (2,3,4) - 这里也是,按起来的感觉也不舒服,要都跟的话我觉得后面的换成2个slider比较好,不全跟可以换一个长slider带过
01:54:717 (2,3,4) - ^

[PinkHeart's Insane]
00:22:636 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这边跟后面的,H跟这个I的差距有点大啊忽然就冒出来一堆串……跟2个x的差不多 有点担心spread问题 改了改
00:54:544 (6,7,8) - 个人觉得7不太适合放跳,这边instrument基本没音 也是
01:21:422 (2,3,4) - 这边的音逐渐急促了,不放跳吗? 看不懂原作者在想啥 先不管了
01:48:648 (1,2,1) - 这个flow很别扭啊,尤其是用01:49:341 (1)去stack滑条尾,我觉得stack滑条头可能更好点 还行吧 前面也有一个这样的打起来还挺好

[Istoria]
01:22:809 (2) - NC sv change
太没人性了 好多反人类梗啊

瞎摸的 祝起飞 以后m4m还是发个pm为好,我突然多了3个m4m想死啊 其实是我一时想不起来找谁约的m4m

Flower wrote:

[lstoria]
可能你是粉心的双胞胎吧
soft normal音效太没打击感了,这一点你们俩也蛮像的(呸我还有脸说别人) 我看了一下 这个人音效直接复制的我的
我也说不出什么来,建议问下星爷
00:28:185 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 我认为应该这里用超大间距,而00:28:879 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这里反而应该小,因为音乐前者更激昂 后面音调高一点啊 激昂不激昂都被drumsample盖过去听不见了
00:33:041 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ^ 这个纯粹是间距小了不好打
00:33:734 (1) - 还有这个不太美观 修啊 但是怎么修都不美观啊
01:21:942 (1) - 这个的白锚点也可以修一下. 然后感觉可以延长1/4

[PinkHeart's in]
00:17:087 (1) - 考虑到滑条头被遮挡,这里几乎不能读出是往哪个方向走的,建议稍微张开点 可以开渐入滑条
01:28:359 (3,4) - 可以用降低音量的normal sample 直接塞drum了
01:33:387 (1,2,3,4,5) - 都可以用normal,很慷慨激昂 好啊 为什么不呢
01:34:428 - 加上normal,01:34:081 (6,7,8) - 这一段加上渐弱绿线
01:39:197 (2,3) - drum sample
01:50:729 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^ 就加了前四个
01:56:191 (5) - ^ 这不太爽 还是塞一个比较好

hard和insane之间差距有点大,不过上面那些人不会管的吧,祝好运 我还是降一降难度 哎
Misure
hard
kiai前面再考虑一下 其他改了
谢谢摸!

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KaedekaShizuru

Flower wrote:

[shizuru's ex]
ar可以加到9.2? 有道理
00:48:994 (6) - 白锚点修一下可以更对称
01:10:324 (3) - 微调
01:21:942 (1) - 感觉可以延长1/4 no thx 感觉怪怪的
谢摸
Koiyuki
kksr's ex
00:21:942 (1) - to 1/8 repeat
01:20:208 (1) - remove nc
01:41:885 (2) - whi
01:43:966 (5) - ^
01:52:463 (6) - ^

Istoria diff same hitsound above
00:00:440 (1) - 00:01:133 (2) - 00:05:295 (1) - whi
also some places, whi can be added

same to ph's insane and other diffs, i think u may use hs coper lol

ph's insane
01:21:942 (5) - nc?
KaedekaShizuru

Koiyuki wrote:

kksr's ex
00:21:942 (1) - to 1/8 repeat
01:20:208 (1) - remove nc
01:41:885 (2) - whi
01:43:966 (5) - ^
01:52:463 (6) - ^
all fixed
thx
Topic Starter
Fushimi Rio
all fixed and updated
Koiyuki
:idea:
Seijiro
umh... I was checking bubbled maps and I noticed this. Mind if I mod it? x)
EDIT: uh... let's stop for a moment to discuss instead, shall we


Main Issues


  1. 01:01:480 - SV here is set to be equal to the SV in kiai time and this makes me wonder: is the song so intense here to warrant such big spacing and SV? Disclaimer: nope.
    I believe you should reduce SV for this section to better express the song. The same goes for spacing: it should be shorter, like... 01:02:520 (4,1) - wut ?.?
    This applies to both the highest diff in the mapset. The Extra GD actually has a tiny difference of x0.10 in SV with the kiai time, but let's be honest: it is not noticeable enough to convey the proper feeling
  2. 00:22:636 - let's take the stream part now.
    I don't plan on telling you to remove the stream, don't worry, but the way it gets represented is too... random? Let's say that it is a bit hard to follow if I listen to the song properly.
    On the highest diff:
    1. 00:25:064 (1) - this was supposed to be a turning point (that's why you have the NC) on the piano note, but there is not difference here, everything is just flowing so there isn't enough impact to make that piano note noticeable in gameplay
    2. 00:25:931 (7,1) - both are identical piano notes, so I would expect identical objects
    3. there are obviously a lot of parts where you could do that but I won't list them all
    4. last thing about the stream is how spacing changes here and there. I may missing something or just misinterpreting, because I sort of get a feeling you changed spacing based on the piano notes' pitch. If that's the case I'd say that skipping some piano notes or not expressing them properly makes this effect drop.
      If you weren't following anything in particular in the song I would say you should keep some consistency across this whole stream since it doesn't really change over time

    On Kaedeka's diff:
    1. the stream is nice in consistency since it uses the same spacing, so that's a bonus
    2. piano here is getting even more ignored tho. Even if it is clearly audible it doesn't get any emphasis at all, it gets treated as a background instrument, lol

    On PinkHeart's diff:
    1. I don't have much to say apart from the fact it is really cramped. Maybe increase SV and add a tiny bit of DS too, because it is really too short compared to the next diff in the spread
  3. 01:33:561 (2,3,4) - the higest diff presents some really awkward diff spikes across the kiai time.
    One of those examples is this triplet, which is suddenly spaced way more than any other thing in the map till now.
    Please do mind diff spikes and try to avoid this stuff.
  4. General notice that the white combos are hella hard to play. Even if you put a warning in description that doesn't help much in gameplay. The way they get introduced is similar to a normal 1/2 snap (or even worse, smaller than a 1/4 snap 01:33:561 (2,3,4) - <.<"). Later on you even change drastically their spacing and it becomes like a jump: 01:48:301 (2,3,4) - 01:53:850 (2,3,4) - .
    I must tell you that is really unpredictable and as a player I wouldn't expect such a big change out of nowhere.
  5. Talking about the Insane, the first kiai as a strangely short spacing in the first kiai. Once it starts you don't even get that "punch" a kiai should give since spacing is too similar to before. Add some more punch to it please
  6. Always on Insane, the flow is really disregarded in some places.
    You should try thinking at how mouse players will play this more than tablet players, since at this level many players will still be playing with mouse.
    Flows like... 00:36:509 (1,2,3) - 00:55:931 (1,2,3,4) - 01:34:775 (1,2,3) - 01:37:549 (1,1,2,1) - (you really want to make them dead, heh) 01:46:567 (3,4,1) - 01:48:648 (1,2,1) -
  7. some rhythms on the Hard are too dense:
    1. 00:02:174 - you could really avoid this. Making 00:01:827 (4) - just a circle would be the best
    2. same in the other similar places ^
    3. 00:09:804 (2) - if you follow piano don't suddenly switch over vocals, it just feels like you overmapped the piano this way
    4. 01:02:001 (2) - if you remove this you keep more focus on vocals, otherwise it feels like you're overmapping them instead
    5. there are other places but I'll add them in the additional modding below
  8. I noticed this mainly on the Hard diff, but I believe that any map can always gain from this:
    structure is a bit poor and I mean more visually than rhythmically here.
    For example take from the Hard... 00:25:411 (1,2,3,4,1) - 00:28:185 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 00:30:266 (3,4,1) - 00:36:509 (1,2,3,1) - and so on, and I try to explain why are those objects there and placed like that. As far as I can analyze things, they are there just because "they felt good that way and that's it", but I'd rather see some more thought put in that.
    Idk what is this song talking about or from what work is, but you can make up some themes for your map based on that sort of knowledge. If not, try to at least make it a clean map, by using some more mirrored or non-contradicting shapes.
  9. Let's switch onto the Normal diff
    First thing which comes to my mind is how rhythm in certain parts is really random, as in "it ignores the song".
    Take 00:15:353 (2,3,1) - . The way you mapped this vocals (the main instrument in this part) are getting ignored.
    What about: 00:15:353 - circle; 00:15:700 - 1/1 slider; 00:17:087 - 1/1 slider?
    There are some parts ahead too, but I might as well make a mod for this I guess
  10. The other thing really noticeable on this diff is the amount of overlaps.
    There are too many for a Normal diff being the lowest of the set imo: 00:26:104 (2,4) - 00:30:266 (5,1) - 00:33:041 (5,1) - 01:15:353 (1,2) - 01:26:104 (4,3) - (not so noticeable, but it is still there and it's a bi ugly) 01:43:619 (2,1) - 01:44:833 (1,1) - 01:51:942 (2,3,4) - (come on, this is really ugly to be seen D:)
  11. on a general note, the Normal has a really cramped kiai time. You might need to use a larger DS

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Posting this for now.
I'd like to give a short mod too, to go more in details, although the big part is already up there ^
Topic Starter
Fushimi Rio

MrSergio wrote:

umh... I was checking bubbled maps and I noticed this. Mind if I mod it? x)
EDIT: uh... let's stop for a moment to discuss instead, shall we


Main Issues


  1. 01:01:480 - SV here is set to be equal to the SV in kiai time and this makes me wonder: is the song so intense here to warrant such big spacing and SV? Disclaimer: nope.
    I believe you should reduce SV for this section to better express the song. The same goes for spacing: it should be shorter, like... 01:02:520 (4,1) - wut ?.?
    reduced the sv and spacing.
    This applies to both the highest diff in the mapset. The Extra GD actually has a tiny difference of x0.10 in SV with the kiai time, but let's be honest: it is not noticeable enough to convey the proper feeling
  2. 00:22:636 - let's take the stream part now.
    irc talked and reached an agreement now. reduced a part's spacing
  1. 01:33:561 (2,3,4) - the higest diff presents some really awkward diff spikes across the kiai time.
    One of those examples is this triplet, which is suddenly spaced way more than any other thing in the map till now.
    Please do mind diff spikes and try to avoid this stuff. reduced spacing.
  2. General notice that the white combos are hella hard to play. Even if you put a warning in description that doesn't help much in gameplay. The way they get introduced is similar to a normal 1/2 snap (or even worse, smaller than a 1/4 snap 01:33:561 (2,3,4) - <.<"). Later on you even change drastically their spacing and it becomes like a jump: 01:48:301 (2,3,4) - 01:53:850 (2,3,4) - .
    I must tell you that is really unpredictable and as a player I wouldn't expect such a big change out of nowhere. irc talked and readched another agreement that this two won't produce a difficulty spike like 01:33:561 (2,3,4) because of the two 1/3 patterns in former kiai. also reduced the second pattern's spacing since a circle is harder to catch than a slider

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Posting this for now.
I'd like to give a short mod too, to go more in details, although the big part is already up there ^
For the normal diff I'd like to respond after the mod is given. Currently fixed stuffs are these now.
If someone need the irc chatlog just tell me.

Edit1: added some illustration of pinkheart's explanation of flow

There will be a acceleration between 12 to give a punch as a beginning of second kiai. Also the relative sharp angel between 23 could emphasis the heavy beat on 01:35:468 -

234 are arranged to produce a quick turning-around pattern to change the velocity from 12 into angular velocity, and then jump between 34 could emphasis the music on 01:47:087 -
01:48:648 (1,2,1) - is a copy of this flow.

Edit2: fixed a lot of stuffs in Normal.
PinkHeart

MrSergio wrote:

umh... I was checking bubbled maps and I noticed this. Mind if I mod it? x)
EDIT: uh... let's stop for a moment to discuss instead, shall we


Main Issues


  1. 00:22:636 - let's take the stream part now.
    I don't plan on telling you to remove the stream, don't worry, but the way it gets represented is too... random? Let's say that it is a bit hard to follow if I listen to the song properly.
    On PinkHeart's diff:
    1. I don't have much to say apart from the fact it is really cramped. Maybe increase SV and add a tiny bit of DS too, because it is really too short compared to the next diff in the spread raised overall DS to make this part more clearly. as for SV it seems not to help so kept.


[*]Talking about the Insane, the first kiai as a strangely short spacing in the first kiai. Once it starts you don't even get that "punch" a kiai should give since spacing is too similar to before. Add some more punch to it please hmm...ok? If that won't break the spread.
[*]Always on Insane, the flow is really disregarded in some places.
You should try thinking at how mouse players will play this more than tablet players, since at this level many players will still be playing with mouse. I am a mouse player and I had thought how they would play.
Flows like... 00:36:509 (1,2,3) - just trying to copy flow from 00:34:255 (2,3,4,1) - . I don't mind to change this if it's really unacceptable.
00:55:931 (1,2,3,4) - fixed
01:34:775 (1,2,3) - sorry, didn't get your point. what's the flow issue of it?
01:37:549 (1,1,2,1) - (you really want to make them dead, heh) It's not flow but reading issue imo. If you are sure that it's hard to read, I'll change it.
01:46:567 (3,4,1) - It's the same flow as 01:34:775 (1,2,3) - .
01:48:648 (1,2,1) - still same as 01:46:567 (3,4,1) - .

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Posting this for now.
I'd like to give a short mod too, to go more in details, although the big part is already up there ^
I need more specific illustration of the issue on 01:34:775 (1,2,3) - before I give explanations or making changes of similar patterns. Some explanations were given in imoutosan's post.
Thanks for modding anyway.
Misure
in Hard diff:
fix those rhythm in the first part, but keep 00:09:804 (2) - to have a better consistency;
keep 01:02:001 (2) - to make rhythm more comfortable, ah I mean I'd like to make it dense here;
as for the second part, I don't think patterns are poor, at least I avoid overlapping and use some mirrored pattern like 00:25:411 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - copy paste, 00:30:960 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - mirrored, to make it clean as far as possible, with the repeated rhythm, ah but from 00:33:734 - I intended to make them not mirrored to perform the rhythm change.
if I failed to make it clean, that means I'm noob rather than I put little thought xd

Thanks for your modding! :)

ahh I'm poor at English LOL

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448,244,102058,2,0,P|448:272|441:299,1,56.25,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
364,356,102405,2,0,P|335:356|308:349,1,56.25,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
251,274,102752,2,0,P|256:232|265:191,1,84.375,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
265,191,103099,6,0,P|222:193|153:200,1,112.5,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
83,267,103619,2,0,P|84:295|91:323,2,56.25,0|0|0,0:0|1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,200,104139,1,4,1:0:0:0:
104,116,104313,1,0,1:0:0:0:
452,64,105873,6,0,P|462:117|431:162,1,112.5,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,120,106394,1,0,0:0:0:0:
250,139,106567,2,0,P|248:167|249:195,2,56.25,0|0|0,1:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,244,107087,22,0,P|256:249|200:258,1,112.5,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
148,340,107607,1,0,1:0:0:0:
148,340,107781,1,0,0:0:0:0:
60,300,107954,2,0,P|54:272|52:244,1,56.25,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,180,108301,2,0,P|129:152|131:124,1,56.25,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
24,36,108648,6,0,P|12:89|36:138,1,112.5,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
131,124,109168,1,0,0:0:0:0:
216,172,109342,2,0,P|247:167|272:168,2,56.25,0|0|0,1:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
188,56,109862,6,0,P|239:78|294:77,1,112.5,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
380,32,110382,1,0,1:0:0:0:
460,84,110555,1,0,1:0:0:0:
364,184,110729,2,0,P|367:156|375:129,1,56.25,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
463,185,111076,1,0,0:0:0:0:
463,185,111249,1,0,0:0:0:0:
431,281,111423,22,0,P|403:286|375:284,1,56.25,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
220,196,111943,1,0,1:0:0:0:
220,196,112029,1,0,3:0:0:0:
220,196,112116,2,0,P|228:222|239:248,1,56.25,4|0,3:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
328,212,112463,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,336,112636,6,0,P|241:350|185:352,1,112.5,4|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
92,324,113157,1,0,1:0:0:0:
92,324,113330,1,0,3:0:0:0:
132,236,113503,22,0,L|123:199,2,37.5,4|0|0,1:0|3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
167,208,113850,2,0,L|175:171,2,37.5,0|0|0,3:0|3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
207,228,114197,6,0,P|206:256|212:284,1,56.25,4|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,72,114717,1,0,1:0:0:0:
300,72,114803,1,0,3:0:0:0:
300,72,114890,2,0,P|273:80|247:91,1,56.25,4|0,3:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
284,180,115237,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,136,115410,6,0,P|145:81|143:25,1,112.5,4|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
259,36,115931,2,0,P|255:63|247:90,1,56.25,0|0,1:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
48,148,116278,2,0,P|103:137|160:136,1,112.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,304,116972,5,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,117145,12,0,119572,0:0:0:0:
smallboat
貼昨天的IRC賺點KD

2017-03-12 23:28 imoutosan: 嗯 先等我搞定他吧
2017-03-12 23:29 smallboat: 他是主動找?
2017-03-12 23:30 imoutosan: 是这样的
2017-03-12 23:30 imoutosan: 主动戳泡
2017-03-12 23:30 imoutosan: 免不了要打一打
2017-03-12 23:31 smallboat: .
2017-03-12 23:31 smallboat: 我去看看
2017-03-12 23:31 smallboat: 不過我覺得有一個地方是挺有問題
2017-03-12 23:31 smallboat: 高難度我是覺得看的ok啦
2017-03-12 23:31 smallboat: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1221456 Ayane - Azurite no Hitsugi [Misure's Hard]]
2017-03-12 23:32 smallboat: 01:55:931 (2,3) - 跳這麼遠我覺得會被噴
2017-03-12 23:32 smallboat: 現在就照你說的等你跟他對完吧 我先慢看
2017-03-13 00:55 smallboat: 這人也講太久˙-˙
2017-03-13 00:56 imoutosan: 英语交流
2017-03-13 00:56 imoutosan: 比较费力
2017-03-13 00:56 smallboat: 原來如此
2017-03-13 01:20 imoutosan: 真的费力 哎哟
2017-03-13 01:20 smallboat: 辛苦了
2017-03-13 01:21 imoutosan: 还得改
2017-03-13 01:21 smallboat: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1156927 Ayane - Azurite no Hitsugi [Istoria]]
2017-03-13 01:21 imoutosan: 该改的部分还没改呢
2017-03-13 01:21 smallboat: 01:43:966 (2,1,2) - 應該是同一組NC
2017-03-13 01:21 smallboat: 01:43:792 (1) - 這個取消
2017-03-13 01:21 imoutosan: 这个人坚持认为1/3梗没法读
2017-03-13 01:21 smallboat: *去消NC
2017-03-13 01:21 smallboat: .
2017-03-13 01:21 imoutosan: 我不知道怎么说好
2017-03-13 01:21 smallboat: 可以讀吧欸

全弄好再叫我。
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