illion - AIWAGUMA [Osu|OsuMania|Taiko|CatchTheBeat] · forum

Ellyu

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Topic Starter

Ellyu 2016-11-13T14:30:44+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017年10月28日 at 23:57:32

Artist: illion
Title: AIWAGUMA
Tags: UBU Yojiro Noda 野田洋次郎 Folk Rock _Yiiiii Pata-Mon Tenshichan Superstar Tofu1222 Antalf handsome muscle
BPM: 176
Filesize: 14580kb
Play Time: 03:42
Difficulties Available:

Another (5.03 stars, 926 notes)
Antalf's HD - 4Key (2.99 stars, 1889 notes)
E=mc^2 (5.32 stars, 981 notes)
Easy (1.67 stars, 289 notes)
Futsuu (2.22 stars, 542 notes)
Hard (3.13 stars, 598 notes)
Hyper (3.67 stars, 665 notes)
iiiii's Insane (4.36 stars, 839 notes)
Inner Oni (4.76 stars, 1392 notes)
Kantan (1.45 stars, 282 notes)
Muzukashii (2.97 stars, 815 notes)
Oni (3.93 stars, 1129 notes)
Pata-Mon's Normal (2.09 stars, 403 notes)
Tenshichan's Rain (4.15 stars, 753 notes)
Tofu's MX - 4Key (3.6 stars, 2034 notes)

Download: illion - AIWAGUMA
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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歩んできたこの道は

どんな形してるんだ

僕の今君の今

どこでまぐわるんだ

SPOILER

std:normal by Pata-Mon
insane by _Y一堆i
taiko:by handsome muscle
ctb:by Tenshichan
mania:HD by Antalf
MX by tofu
mania hitsound by 1164530434

RIP HXJ and his NM:https://puu.sh/xI8Zq/65d3288b72.osu
300 fav 2017/12/14 \:D/

Last edited by Ellyu 2017-12-14T05:39:20+00:00, edited 195 times in total.

Nyan

1,455 posts

Joined September 2008

Nyan 2017-01-26T23:23:43+00:00

[Kantan]

HP 4 -> 7 because it has few notes

Decrease star rating

00:32:600 (2) - delete
01:08:054 (68) - delete
01:09:418 (71) - delete
01:29:872 (5) - delete
01:35:327 (17) - delete
01:40:782 (27) - delete

02:38:736 (6) - delete
02:42:486 (14,15,16,17,18) - d k d k k
03:18:622 (4,5,6,1) - d _ k _ d
03:23:736 (9) - delete
03:30:554 (26) - delete

[Futsuu]

HP 4 -> 6

02:39:077 (11) - remove Finish
02:44:532 (28) - remove Finish
03:30:554 (26) - remove Finish or add Finish at 03:30:213 (25)

[Oni]

00:44:532 (57) - add Finish
01:17:259 (9) - add Finish

[Inner Oni]

01:17:259 (9) - add Finish
02:24:588 (2,3) - dd

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Ellyu 2017-01-30T05:31:36+00:00

Nyan wrote:
[Kantan]

HP 4 -> 7 because it has few notes

Decrease star rating

00:32:600 (2) - delete
01:08:054 (68) - delete
01:09:418 (71) - delete
01:29:872 (5) - delete
01:35:327 (17) - delete
01:40:782 (27) - delete

02:38:736 (6) - delete
02:42:486 (14,15,16,17,18) - d k d k k
03:18:622 (4,5,6,1) - d _ k _ dfixed but a little different
03:23:736 (9) - delete
03:30:554 (26) - delete

[Futsuu]

HP 4 -> 6

02:39:077 (11) - remove Finish
02:44:532 (28) - remove Finish
03:30:554 (26) - remove Finish or add Finish at 03:30:213 (25)

[Oni]

00:44:532 (57) - add Finish
01:17:259 (9) - add Finish

[Inner Oni]

01:17:259 (9) - add Finish
02:24:588 (2,3) - ddit‘s fine

The rest are all fixed

Thanks XD .updated now

gaston_2199

1,179 posts

Joined February 2015

gaston_2199 2017-02-15T01:15:51+00:00

Hi!
M4M
Sorry for so late response

[Kantan]
Consider deleting multiple notes to make it much more accessible to Kantan players (this is a 'normal')

00:01:577 (2,4,6) - Remove for emphatize the vocal here 00:00:895 (1,3,5) -
How about move 00:05:327 (8) - to 00:06:009 - ? Remove this 00:04:986 (7) - if you accept
00:07:032 (11,13) - Remove.The same 00:01:577 (2,4,6) -
00:16:236 (5,6) - Remove for follow this pattern 00:11:804 (19,20,1) -
00:21:691 (6) - Remove
00:22:372 (8) - kat? Would look great with the instrumental in the background. In addition to giving more emphasis to 00:22:713 (9) -
00:23:395 (10,12) - Ctrl + G
00:23:736 (11) - Remove, no destacable sound
00:28:168 (19) - kat
00:38:395 (12) - Remove finisher, this is similar to 00:35:668 (7) -
00:46:236 (26) - Remove
00:46:577 (27) - kat
00:49:304 (32) - Same that 00:38:395 (12) -
01:29:191 (3) - Remove
01:34:645 (14) - ^
01:41:122 (25) - kat for adapt the vocal
01:55:782 (6) - Remove
01:58:168 (10) - don (drum pitch)
02:18:622 (5) - Remove
02:27:827 (7) - ^
And the rest, remove notes. Try lowering it to less than 1.5 *

[Futsuu]
Same case, remove notes. This is "Hard", Try lowering it to less than 2.2*

00:09:759 (22) - kat
00:38:395 (19) - Remove finisher (Same that Kantan)
00:49:304 (48) - ^
00:55:952 (67) - How about mode to 00:56:293 - ?
01:37:713 (29) - Add finisher for consistence with 01:38:395 (30,31,32) -
02:41:804 (19) - Remove finisher
03:02:941 (80) - kat
03:08:907 (4) - Remove, no destacable sound. And consistence with 03:14:190 (8,1) -

[Muzukashii]

00:02:769 - You can add don for follow the vocal, the same here 00:06:861 -
00:09:588 - Here add kat for same reason ^
00:24:247 - Add don here, sound is better
00:33:282 (1) - kat, the finisher sound not good
00:38:395 (25) - Remove finisher
00:44:105 (48) - Move to 00:44:787 -
00:44:532 (51) - kat
01:30:725 (13) - Remove, no sound here
01:36:009 (41,42) - ^
02:53:225 - Here add triplet ddd 1/4

[Oni]

00:28:338 (61,65) - Remove notes for order not to lengthen the pattern too much
00:38:395 (30) - kat (drum pitch)
01:14:702 - Add kat to follow the instrumental
01:46:151 (36) - Move to 01:45:980 - and change to don
01:46:492 - Add kat to follow the vocal
01:47:514 (44) - Here no sound, remove
01:50:242 (1) - The same ^
01:57:912 (30) - Remove, no sound
01:59:787 - Add don and 01:59:872 (41) - change to kat
03:02:259 (168,169,170,171,172,173) - The same that 01:45:895 - (if you accept the suggestion)
03:13:508 (2,3,4,5) - kdddk 1/4

That's all, I don't mod Inner Oni because you modded 4 diff in my mapset. This need more mods, you can find!
Good luck!

Stefan

Global Moderator

10,407 posts

Joined January 2011

Stefan 2017-02-15T05:06:01+00:00

[General]

I've been lurking about the song since it's really nice to listen and noticed the title is written as "Ai Waguma". Can you provide sources that AIWAGUMA is correct and not split as "AI WAGUMA" instead?

[Inner Oni]
00:55:100 (1,2,3,4) - I understand at a certain point the usage of 1/6 but it doesn't feel "right" imo. It rather looks random and not well placed, I would keep 00:55:100 (1) - and delete the rest, (1) should be a Big Kat afterwards.
01:00:895 - 01:03:111 - The breaks at 01:02:088 - and 01:01:747 - should be mapped while 01:02:770 (52,53,54) - should be removed; You mapped 00:55:441 - 01:00:213 - quite impactful and partly because of the vocals. for the said time spots you should apply to the changes since it makes it more obvious what you mainly go for.
01:05:924 (74) - The stream feels.. sorta spammy and not well to play, split it a bit. And remove this note.
03:15:213 (59) - What about emphasizing the vocals here with k? It barely hurts the bgm mapping and fits very well imo.
03:15:725 (64,65,66) - I find ddk or dkk more suitable if you go by the music.

I like your style; Some part feel unfamiliar to me but not because they're bad, mainly because it's something "new" to me how this and that are mapped this way. Then again I like the rhythm you're adding with your mapping in combination with the music mapping - which goes directly by the music. You did a good difficulty here, in my opinion.

[Oni]
00:22:713 - 01:41:804 - this is purely my personal opinion but before 01:41:804 - you should try to keep your combos at some parts shorter. I think some parts feels too long compared to the next/previous combos you did and ruins the atmosphere a bit. I will go point by point which parts I am talking about:

00:27:486 - 00:29:532 - remove 00:28:338 (61) - to emphasize 00:28:168 (60,62) - better.
00:39:077 - 00:40:782 - remove 00:39:929 (37) - , I think the d k k k d x k k ddk k setup is really nice and feels more relaxed to play.
00:46:918 - 00:48:963 - remove 00:48:282 (80) - to emphasize 00:48:111 (79) - better with the vocal.
00:49:645 - 00:52:032 - remove 00:50:924 (94,95) - , similar emphasis like the previous point.
01:14:787 (43) - the doublet here sounds very strange if you ask me, I wouldn't use it here.
01:33:282 - 01:35:668 - remove 01:34:475 (39) - which is very weak and improves the emphasis of 01:34:304 (38) - and 01:34:645 (40) - .

01:57:486 (26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - I would re-do this part since it feels very weird to go with kkkkd while there is nothing significant here which justifies that well. What about k d kdd instead?
02:13:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Also here I feel the stream doesn't really fit very much, split it to two triplets (mean remove 02:14:105 (4,8) - )
02:24:588 (2,3,4) - Personally I am unsure if you really have to map these unsignificant sounds of the song, it feels strange at all.

02:39:247 (20) - What about removing this note? the break and doublet fits pretty good here if you ask me.
02:50:157 (89) - ^
03:13:338 (1) - consider removing this note to shortend the combo a bit.
03:13:508 (2,3,4,5) - while I hear what you're following, I find dk kd appears very random and kicks out the rhythm you're previously following. You could try dkd k instead.
03:17:259 (1,2,3,4) - as well here I don't think you should follow /that/ sound, ddk k works way better here.
03:18:793 (13) - as well, like 03:13:338 - you could remove this note so the combo isn't that long.
03:18:963 (14,15,16,17) - again, dkd k would be a nice choice here and is still similar to your rhythm.

The difficulty is okay but it has a lot of room open for improvement. I am not the sort of modder to interrupt the mapper too much about their rhythm and pattern they use so I didn't point out too much here. However, I feel that many spots can have a better emphasis if you go by various methods like "less is more" - using less notes at some parts to have more emphasis at certain spots with notes. Something that you really should consider is a fixed scheme in what you mainly focus. You can't follow both, vocals and background music the same way. It's good to have a bit of bgm or vocals but you need to decide what you actually follow. Some parts felt weird and like you tried to follow both things, that's just a little advice after all, don't worry too much.

[Muzukashii]
Something you need to consider between Muzukashii and Oni is not only to reduce the density but also to have shorter combos. You can't and shouldn't have the same lenght of combos (or even longer) for a Muzukashii. Trying to go point by point what should be changed.

00:06:350 - 00:11:804 - This is a good example because it's near identical to the Oni Difficulty. Try to delete some 1/2 and 1/1 notes.
00:11:804 - 00:22:713 - compared to the Oni, the Muzukashii Difficulty has more notes in this part. Delete for example 00:12:145 (40,42) - , 00:13:850 (4) - , 00:15:895 (11,12,13) - , 00:17:600 (15) - , 00:21:350 (12) - , 00:22:543 (18) - .
00:22:713 - 00:33:622 - Also this part can be improved a lot and use easier pattern - because to make a Muzukashii significant easier than an Oni it means to use less notes, easier rhythm (less 1/4, etc) and easier pattern. If you use them in the Oni you have weird difficulty spikes and drops at parts which aren't good.

In all honest: I've been checking the complete difficulty till the end and the same issues I just pointed out above applies for the rest of the map. You have combos like 01:33:452 (26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39) - with another following combo of 01:36:009 (40,41,42,43,44,1,2,3,4,5,6) - which is impossible to have with the current settings. Read this guide what's important for mapping each difficulty, it may also help for other difficulties too!: t/152263

What I can re-quote from the guide is: Less is more. Try to keep 1/2 patterns small. This is pretty much what you should follow in the first place because your Muzukashii cannot be the same or harder at any time or part than the Oni. And for now the Muzukashii Difficulty has for around 3/4 of the time the same density and/or complexity. Also, if you're worried about it: Don't worry too much about the Star Rating, it barely means anything today.

[Kantan]
00:04:986 (4) - what about k? k k d sounds pretty cool and is a nice follow-up.
00:09:077 - 00:13:168 - https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/iT8peZqw.png This is STILL acceptable for a Kantan Difficulty and easier to follow. Removed the note at 00:12:486 - to avoid the long combo.
00:13:168 - 00:23:395 - https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/2Y71PYlF.png decreasing the density a bit and adding more breaks, it makes the part more suitable for newer players.
01:17:259 - 01:27:486 - for the calmer part of the song you should use less notes; remove every second note, starting with 01:17:941 (5) - then 01:19:304 (7) - and so on.
01:36:350 (15,16,17,18,19) - instead of using k d k k d - which is quite complicated, you could use k d k d k instead.

well, I can't tell much more about the difficulty since I skipped Futsuu so it's hard to judge the gap.

Good luck!

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Ellyu 2017-02-16T14:39:40+00:00

gaston_2199 wrote:
Hi!
M4M
Sorry for so late response

[Kantan]
Consider deleting multiple notes to make it much more accessible to Kantan players (this is a 'normal')
00:01:577 (2,4,6) - Remove for emphatize the vocal here 00:00:895 (1,3,5) -
How about move 00:05:327 (8) - to 00:06:009 - ? Remove this 00:04:986 (7) - if you accept
00:07:032 (11,13) - Remove.The same 00:01:577 (2,4,6) -
00:16:236 (5,6) - Remove for follow this pattern 00:11:804 (19,20,1) -
00:21:691 (6) - Remove
00:22:372 (8) - kat? Would look great with the instrumental in the background. In addition to giving more emphasis to 00:22:713 (9) -
00:23:395 (10,12) - Ctrl + G
00:23:736 (11) - Remove, no destacable sound
00:28:168 (19) - kat
00:38:395 (12) - Remove finisher, this is similar to 00:35:668 (7) -
00:46:236 (26) - Remove
00:46:577 (27) - kat
00:49:304 (32) - Same that 00:38:395 (12) -
01:29:191 (3) - Remove
01:34:645 (14) - ^
01:41:122 (25) - kat for adapt the vocal
01:55:782 (6) - Remove
01:58:168 (10) - don (drum pitch)
02:18:622 (5) - Remove
02:27:827 (7) - ^
And the rest, remove notes. Try lowering it to less than 1.5 *
All fixed thanks<3

[Futsuu]
Same case, remove notes. This is "Hard", Try lowering it to less than 2.2*
00:09:759 (22) - kat
00:38:395 (19) - Remove finisher (Same that Kantan)
00:49:304 (48) - ^
00:55:952 (67) - How about mode to 00:56:293 - ?
01:37:713 (29) - Add finisher for consistence with 01:38:395 (30,31,32) -
02:41:804 (19) - Remove finisher
03:02:941 (80) - kat
03:08:907 (4) - Remove, no destacable sound. And consistence with 03:14:190 (8,1) -
doing remap job now;w;
[Muzukashii]
00:02:769 - You can add don for follow the vocal, the same here 00:06:861 -
00:09:588 - Here add kat for same reason ^
00:24:247 - Add don here, sound is better
00:33:282 (1) - kat, the finisher sound not good
00:38:395 (25) - Remove finisher
00:44:105 (48) - Move to 00:44:787 -
00:44:532 (51) - kat
01:30:725 (13) - Remove, no sound here
01:36:009 (41,42) - ^
02:53:225 - Here add triplet ddd 1/4no cuz i follow vocal here
the rest are fixed
[Oni]
00:28:338 (61,65) - Remove notes for order not to lengthen the pattern too much
00:38:395 (30) - kat (drum pitch)
01:14:702 - Add kat to follow the instrumental
01:46:151 (36) - Move to 01:45:980 - and change to don
01:46:492 - Add kat to follow the vocalthis shoud be don.the pitch is low
01:47:514 (44) - Here no sound, remove
01:50:242 (1) - The same ^
01:57:912 (30) - Remove, no sound
01:59:787 - Add don and 01:59:872 (41) - change to kat
03:02:259 (168,169,170,171,172,173) - The same that 01:45:895 - (if you accept the suggestion)
03:13:508 (2,3,4,5) - kdddk 1/4
changed to kd dk cuz no obvious sound at the red tick
That's all, I don't mod Inner Oni because you modded 4 diff in my mapset. This need more mods, you can find!
Good luck!

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Ellyu 2017-02-20T14:49:48+00:00

Stefan wrote:
[General]
I've been lurking about the song since it's really nice to listen and noticed the title is written as "Ai Waguma". Can you provide sources that AIWAGUMA is correct and not split as "AI WAGUMA" instead?https://puu.sh/ubIs2/d01a95aca1.png

[Inner Oni]
00:55:100 (1,2,3,4) - I understand at a certain point the usage of 1/6 but it doesn't feel "right" imo. It rather looks random and not well placed, I would keep 00:55:100 (1) - and delete the rest, (1) should be a Big Kat afterwards.I ask some tester for their advise before and they said it's fine. I place them cuz there actually are rather fast beats here. They can also emphasize the next heavy beat i guess
01:00:895 - 01:03:111 - The breaks at 01:02:088 - and 01:01:747 - should be mapped while 01:02:770 (52,53,54) - should be removed; You mapped 00:55:441 - 01:00:213 - quite impactful and partly because of the vocals. for the said time spots you should apply to the changes since it makes it more obvious what you mainly go for.Fixed some but not pretty like what u said.;w;
01:05:924 (74) - The stream feels.. sorta spammy and not well to play, split it a bit. And remove this note.
03:15:213 (59) - What about emphasizing the vocals here with k? It barely hurts the bgm mapping and fits very well imo.
03:15:725 (64,65,66) - I find ddk or dkk more suitable if you go by the music.

I like your style; Some part feel unfamiliar to me but not because they're bad, mainly because it's something "new" to me how this and that are mapped this way. Then again I like the rhythm you're adding with your mapping in combination with the music mapping - which goes directly by the music. You did a good difficulty here, in my opinion.really glad to see someone like my style!

[Oni]
00:22:713 - 01:41:804 - this is purely my personal opinion but before 01:41:804 - you should try to keep your combos at some parts shorter. I think some parts feels too long compared to the next/previous combos you did and ruins the atmosphere a bit. I will go point by point which parts I am talking about:

00:27:486 - 00:29:532 - remove 00:28:338 (61) - to emphasize 00:28:168 (60,62) - better.
00:39:077 - 00:40:782 - remove 00:39:929 (37) - , I think the d k k k d x k k ddk k setup is really nice and feels more relaxed to play.
00:46:918 - 00:48:963 - remove 00:48:282 (80) - to emphasize 00:48:111 (79) - better with the vocal.
00:49:645 - 00:52:032 - remove 00:50:924 (94,95) - , similar emphasis like the previous point.
01:14:787 (43) - the doublet here sounds very strange if you ask me, I wouldn't use it here.
01:33:282 - 01:35:668 - remove 01:34:475 (39) - which is very weak and improves the emphasis of 01:34:304 (38) - and 01:34:645 (40) - .
01:57:486 (26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - I would re-do this part since it feels very weird to go with kkkkd while there is nothing significant here which justifies that well. What about k d kdd instead?
02:13:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Also here I feel the stream doesn't really fit very much, split it to two triplets (mean remove 02:14:105 (4,8) - )
02:24:588 (2,3,4) - Personally I am unsure if you really have to map these unsignificant sounds of the song, it feels strange at all.
02:39:247 (20) - What about removing this note? the break and doublet fits pretty good here if you ask me.
02:50:157 (89) - ^
03:13:338 (1) - consider removing this note to shortend the combo a bit.
03:13:508 (2,3,4,5) - while I hear what you're following, I find dk kd appears very random and kicks out the rhythm you're previously following. You could try dkd k instead.
03:17:259 (1,2,3,4) - as well here I don't think you should follow /that/ sound, ddk k works way better here.
03:18:793 (13) - as well, like 03:13:338 - you could remove this note so the combo isn't that long.
03:18:963 (14,15,16,17) - again, dkd k would be a nice choice here and is still similar to your rhythm.

The difficulty is okay but it has a lot of room open for improvement. I am not the sort of modder to interrupt the mapper too much about their rhythm and pattern they use so I didn't point out too much here. However, I feel that many spots can have a better emphasis if you go by various methods like "less is more" - using less notes at some parts to have more emphasis at certain spots with notes. Something that you really should consider is a fixed scheme in what you mainly focus. You can't follow both, vocals and background music the same way. It's good to have a bit of bgm or vocals but you need to decide what you actually follow. Some parts felt weird and like you tried to follow both things, that's just a little advice after all, don't worry too much.

[Muzukashii]
Something you need to consider between Muzukashii and Oni is not only to reduce the density but also to have shorter combos. You can't and shouldn't have the same lenght of combos (or even longer) for a Muzukashii. Trying to go point by point what should be changed.

00:06:350 - 00:11:804 - This is a good example because it's near identical to the Oni Difficulty. Try to delete some 1/2 and 1/1 notes.
00:11:804 - 00:22:713 - compared to the Oni, the Muzukashii Difficulty has more notes in this part. Delete for example 00:12:145 (40,42) - , 00:13:850 (4) - , 00:15:895 (11,12,13) - , 00:17:600 (15) - , 00:21:350 (12) - , 00:22:543 (18) - .
00:22:713 - 00:33:622 - Also this part can be improved a lot and use easier pattern - because to make a Muzukashii significant easier than an Oni it means to use less notes, easier rhythm (less 1/4, etc) and easier pattern. If you use them in the Oni you have weird difficulty spikes and drops at parts which aren't good.

In all honest: I've been checking the complete difficulty till the end and the same issues I just pointed out above applies for the rest of the map. You have combos like 01:33:452 (26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39) - with another following combo of 01:36:009 (40,41,42,43,44,1,2,3,4,5,6) - which is impossible to have with the current settings. Read this guide what's important for mapping each difficulty, it may also help for other difficulties too!: t/152263

What I can re-quote from the guide is: Less is more. Try to keep 1/2 patterns small. This is pretty much what you should follow in the first place because your Muzukashii cannot be the same or harder at any time or part than the Oni. And for now the Muzukashii Difficulty has for around 3/4 of the time the same density and/or complexity. Also, if you're worried about it: Don't worry too much about the Star Rating, it barely means anything today.

[Kantan]
00:04:986 (4) - what about k? k k d sounds pretty cool and is a nice follow-up.
00:09:077 - 00:13:168 - https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/iT8peZqw.png This is STILL acceptable for a Kantan Difficulty and easier to follow. Removed the note at 00:12:486 - to avoid the long combo.
00:13:168 - 00:23:395 - https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/2Y71PYlF.png decreasing the density a bit and adding more breaks, it makes the part more suitable for newer players.
01:17:259 - 01:27:486 - for the calmer part of the song you should use less notes; remove every second note, starting with 01:17:941 (5) - then 01:19:304 (7) - and so on.
01:36:350 (15,16,17,18,19) - instead of using k d k k d - which is quite complicated, you could use k d k d k instead.

well, I can't tell much more about the difficulty since I skipped Futsuu so it's hard to judge the gap.

Good luck!

no reply=fixed
I just got another thing to deal with so I will fix the rest diff another some days.

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Ellyu 2017-03-04T12:43:56+00:00

Well.I am really sry that I restart to read stefan's mod too late. I mod it by myself and changed lots of patterns. So I can't understand what the mod refers to now.But I still fix what I can understand now.
Anyway thank you stefan!

Otosaka-Yu

1,119 posts

Joined August 2013

Otosaka-Yu 2017-03-06T16:25:32+00:00

o.o O.O 0.0

Lobelia

858 posts

Joined February 2014

Lobelia 2017-03-10T08:26:06+00:00

选曲好评~~赞一个
顺便。。这个BPM貌似应该是88，翻倍不好吧← ←

Stjpa

899 posts

Joined July 2013

Stjpa 2017-03-14T23:42:54+00:00

awesome song, where did u find it?

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Ellyu 2017-03-15T04:22:51+00:00

oh

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Stefan

Global Moderator

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Joined January 2011

Stefan 2017-03-15T18:47:48+00:00

handsome muscle wrote:
Well.I am really sry that I restart to read stefan's mod too late. I mod it by myself and changed lots of patterns. So I can't understand what the mod refers to now.But I still fix what I can understand now.
Anyway thank you stefan!

Aww, too bad to hear. Anyways, instead of modding the Futsuu (since three weeks passed already) I will re-check the set again and give a proper feedback what I like/dislike, etc.

[Inner Oni]
I like the Inner Oni a lot! It reminds me strongly on my first maps I've did but quality-wise yours is on a better level. You're mapping quite continously - some like that while other aren't fans of this mapping style since it looks overdone and less emphaszing to them. Nevertheless I find your difficulty pretty cool to play and I honestly would like to see it ranked one day.

[Oni]
I clearly see similarities between Oni and Inner Oni which is a nice concept since Inner Oni in the original TnT games are supposed to be the "real Oni Difficulty", so this is a nice adaption of that idea. Difficulty-wise you nerfed the stream pattern and used some easier pattern for five or triplets, as standalone Oni it might be too hard but we have the Lite Oni for this case. Generally, feels pretty good to play and a nice alternative if Lite Oni is too easy and Inner Oni too hard.

[Lite Oni]
This one is new, right? The Difficulty feels not so consistent. We have parts that goes well as Lite Oni - in contrast with the actual Oni - but then we have parts that rather feels like a Muzukashii Difficulty, 01:06:452 - 01:17:361 - for example. What works good is that you don't use multicolour fiv-lets and stick with multicolour triplets. So the only concern I have is the inconsistent difficulty curve the diff has - but it's also the newest so I guess we have to work on it before making judgements.

[Muzukashii]
Since Lite Oni used longer combo pattern and mostly triplets you don't have so much room left of what you can use - and I see the problem between the gap of Muzukashii - Lite Oni. For example, 02:47:361 - 03:20:088 - is excellent! It combines a good portion of breaks, using some more uncommon rhythm changes such as 02:53:156 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - and goes very well with the difficulty jump if you see Lite Oni here. Then we have parts that aren't soooo good, such as the usage of triplets while Lite Oni do provide them in a small portion, even if they're multicoloured I think you don't need them in Muzukashii. Also, I don't think you need longer combo pattern such as 02:28:611 (13,14,15,16,17,18,19,1,2,3,4,5,6) - . And lastly the intro until 00:22:815 - should be nerfed since it's basically the same than Lite Oni. For now I barely see difference between Muzukashii and Lite Oni and that makes one of these difficulties for the most part redundant - that's not the sense of a difficulty and difficulty gap.

[Futsuu]
At some point it feels what the Muzukashii should have been, on some parts it felt straight like a Futsuu. Generally I think you should find something that's exactly between your current Muzukashii and Futsuu - this would be the perfect Muzukashii to have. After then you gotta optimize the Futsuu. I think this is easily doable since you're almost in Muzukashii Level with 2.23 so going down to 2* and even lower is easily possible. The break usage is pretty good but I think the pattern itself can be kept easier, 01:51:111 (19,1,2,3,4,1) - for example can have an easier pattern (d k k d k d is to be fair something you can get lost very quickly). And aside of that I can only rely you will do something with the Muzukashii.

[Kantan]
Something that I strongly recommend to NOT do is continous mapping. Although you don't map every white tick it's neither recommend to have every 2nd white tick mapped. A Kantan difficulty is supposed to be the first thing a newcomer plays (we can't expect your Kantan is really the first difficulty someone ever plays but this sort of difficulty works this way), so having continous mapping is a killer for newcomers. The song itself is really calm until 02:36:452 - so you can use waaaay less notes and/or a lower density than right now. Obviously it's neither good if the map itself is boring but I think you should go with the practicular usage a Kantan should have.

I hope my feedback can help you to improve your mapset, and please do not kudos this post. Already got one some time ago. Good luck!

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2017-03-18T05:40:15+00:00

quick view

easy
01:37:815 (1,1,1,1,2) - 低难度不要用这样的特殊nc 这只会让新手更懵逼
01:52:815 (1,2) - 低难度避免使用这种视觉ds和实际ds严重不同的pattern

hard
01:52:134 (3,4) - 这种相关一组的用一样的弧度或者直接复制粘贴这样差不少看着挺刺眼的
02:35:770 (1) - 简单hard中，这种慢速滑条建议用稍高一点的sv（比如0.8），然后弯成弧度比较大的弯滑条，这样实际打起来的减速效果还是很明显，并且读图会简单一些，更适合hard：https://puu.sh/uO5Ly/8e222c5d08.png
03:07:134 (3) - 这种程度的遮挡在hard里不行．实际上在insane中都不太行，底下也是．当然 insane里可以错开几像素，但是hard里还是建议完全摆开
03:23:838 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - ^ 而且这里还多一点，折返滑条的折返箭头更需要注意

hyper
需要注意一下1/2与1/4的区别：03:18:043 (3,4,5,1) - 03:18:724 (1,2) - 等等．一定要有明显区别．实际上结尾段落的节奏综合这难度整体来看有点过难

_MiaoFUuU_

314 posts

Joined April 2014

_MiaoFUuU_ 2017-03-19T05:44:10+00:00

Hyper

00:26:736 (4) - 这个还是叠一下好
00:37:474 (5) - 这个上移一下包好4
00:49:065 (3) - 左移一下
01:09:861 (3) - 包好1
02:25:543 (1,2) - 这个1要不要跟2一样？
02:54:179 (1,2,3) - 这里包的距离不一样
03:16:338 (3,4,5) - DS
03:32:361 (1) - 包好

Another

这个难度做的挺好的！
02:01:338 (2,3,4) - 这里还是奇怪。把23做成短滑条好很多
02:12:759 (5,6,7) - 奇怪，把5删了会更好
02:58:099 (2,3,1) - 吐槽下这里，换了另一种风格了。建议改一下

E=mc^2

怎么拿了标题做难度名了2333

00:09:179 (1,1) - 包好
00:14:463 (5) - 这个叠好
00:31:509 (2) - 包好
00:42:247 (2,3,2,3) - 我觉得做成滑条会好点，人声拖长，前面你也是滑条了
00:56:906 (1,2) - 这两个不做滑条的话叠起来体验更好
01:00:315 (4,5) - ↑
01:02:702 (3,4) - ↑（不要因为有鼓点就一直跳，要配合人声）
01:28:952 (5,2) - 滑条稍微包好
01:43:952 (1,2) - 叠起来
01:49:406 (5,6) - ↑
02:04:406 (3,4) - 换滑条
02:13:952 (5,6,7,8) - DS太大，结尾不应该更小么
02:28:185 (7) - 这个贴滑条尾难打去下一个
02:34:236 (5) - NC
02:33:895 (2,3,3,4) - 干脆都换滑条吧，不顺手
02:38:838 (6,7,8) - 这里没什么意义啊为什么要跳红线放去蓝线，干脆把7拉去红线
02:48:043 (3,4,5) - 这里节奏 ctrl+g才对
02:49:747 (6,7,8) - 同上面说过的（后面还有）
这个难度的后段很多地方不符合我的自己的节奏下法啊，很多该按的没放到，我还是客观摸那么多好了。

好多太鼓难度，祝早飞！

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Ellyu 2017-03-19T06:44:25+00:00

Ah stefan u r such a nice person. I got really great feedback after seeing ur second mod. That must worth 100kds or more. Sure there is lots of problem in the lower diff cuz I am a new comer in taiko mapping. I will do more fixing job on those diff. Big thanks.

[Kamiya]

637 posts

Joined November 2012

[Kamiya] 2017-03-19T11:05:22+00:00

form in-game

来了来了

[Hard]

00:07:815 (1,3) - 没包好

00:30:315 (3) - 完全可以倒过来放嘛 ctrl k 再放回原位

00:47:361 (1,2,3) - 如果保证美观的（强迫症）话。应该要包好

01:43:952 (3) - 造型没做好

01:57:077 (2,3) - 没包住

02:07:815 (1,2) - 弯度不一致

[Hyper]

00:09:179 (1,2) - 没叠住是故意的吗

后面也好多没叠住的看起来像故意为之。。

[iiiii's Insane]

01:12:929 (3,4) - 这里感觉拖了节奏可以把3slider换成单点

01:13:781 (6,1,2) - 节奏反了

01:28:952 (3,4) - 不打算包住吗

[Another]

00:29:463 (5,1) - 没包住

01:15:315 (3,5) - 没包好

01:42:588 (3,5) - ^

01:45:315 (4,6) - ^

01:46:338 (2,4) - ^

03:28:611 (2,3) - ??? 能不能贴点边。。。

E=mc^2

00:09:179 (1,1) - 没包好可以说是滑条造型没做好

00:55:202 (1,1,1,1,1) - 这样摆会不会反人类了。

01:29:974 (3,1) - 没包好

曲子非常好听！！改了听了7遍改了5个diff 心灵得到了充分的净化_(:з」∠)_
就摸到这里啦其实都是些小问题啦

GL~

_Yiiiii

474 posts

Joined February 2015

_Yiiiii 2017-03-19T11:29:49+00:00

四萌

[Kamiya] wrote:
[iiiii's Insane]

01:12:929 (3,4) - 这里感觉拖了节奏可以把3slider换成单点 fixed

01:13:781 (6,1,2) - 节奏反了 fixed

01:28:952 (3,4) - 不打算包住吗那样flow会比较恶心

thx~

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kanor

925 posts

Joined August 2013

kanor 2017-03-19T15:20:55+00:00

[Genal]
Countdown:
iiiii's Insane: 0
QQ_曅20170318113726.png这个文件没有用到
Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
soft-hitclap10.wav
soft-hitclap11.wav
soft-hitfinish10.wav
soft-hitnormal.wav
soft-hitnormal4.wav
soft-hitwhistle4.wav
taiko-soft-hitclap10.wav
taiko-soft-hitclap11.wav
taiko-soft-hitfinish10.wav
00:09:179 - No two uninherited or two inherited timing sections should be placed at the same point. 这个MA里报错了但是我不是很确定是什么原因，Hard和猪腩肚里有这个问题

太晚了，先查下unrankable，具体的明天再看

[Easy]
01:38:156 (1) - 这个NC有点多余，删了吧
02:36:452 (1,3) - 这种我可能更倾向于复制粘贴吧，重新拉一个不对称感觉有点丑
[i4]
00:14:463 (6,1,2) - 6叠1上感觉更舒服，因为你叠在前面的话红线起跳不是很舒服，
00:23:497 (3,4) - 节奏ctrl+g一下更舒服
00:43:270 (1,2,3) - 如果1和2要这么下的话，我觉得把3去掉，2拉长成1/1直接做个停顿可能更好吧，不然现在这样流畅感又不如前面滑条spam，停顿感又不是很强
00:51:452 (1,2,3) - 同样的节奏，你前面都是1/2带过去的，这里为什么突然要3/4呢
00:46:849 (5) - 因为你在同一个段落里这里00:52:474 (4) - 有一个停顿，那么这里也停顿一下有个照应更舒服
其他的没什么好说的，GL

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Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Ellyu 2017-03-20T09:51:16+00:00

[Kamiya] wrote:
form in-game

来了来了

[Hard]

00:47:361 (1,2,3) - 如果保证美观的（强迫症）话。应该要包好这里没想着包的啊

[Hyper]

00:09:179 (1,2) - 没叠住是故意的吗

后面也好多没叠住的看起来像故意为之。。是的，1/1的空拍我个人习惯不叠

[iiiii's Insane]

01:12:929 (3,4) - 这里感觉拖了节奏可以把3slider换成单点

01:13:781 (6,1,2) - 节奏反了

01:28:952 (3,4) - 不打算包住吗

[Another]

03:28:611 (2,3) - ??? 能不能贴点边。。。这样更好玩啊

E=mc^2

00:55:202 (1,1,1,1,1) - 这样摆会不会反人类了。不反人类，五位数的tester这里都不会出miss，而且这里音乐情感这么强

曲子非常好听！！改了听了7遍改了5个diff 心灵得到了充分的净化_(:з」∠)_我自己一人做了10个难度re过几次，我是不是已经升天了
就摸到这里啦其实都是些小问题啦

GL~

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Ellyu 2017-03-20T10:00:13+00:00

_MiaoFUuU_ wrote:
Hyper

00:26:736 (4) - 这个还是叠一下好 1/1间隔我个人喜欢不叠
Another
这个难度做的挺好的！
02:12:759 (5,6,7) - 奇怪，把5删了会更好不了，这里明显是d_ddd的鼓的节奏，这样挺好的我觉得
02:58:099 (2,3,1) - 吐槽下这里，换了另一种风格了。建议改一下这里就是要这样强调音乐情感啊，而且风格比较主观吧，至少我觉得这里不突兀的
E=mc^2
怎么拿了标题做难度名了2333

00:42:247 (2,3,2,3) - 我觉得做成滑条会好点，人声拖长，前面你也是滑条了这里跟的鼓
00:56:906 (1,2) - 这两个不做滑条的话叠起来体验更好
01:00:315 (4,5) - ↑
01:02:702 (3,4) - ↑（不要因为有鼓点就一直跳，要配合人声）个人不喜欢跟鼓，而且这里有几处直线跳的梗就是为了贴合音乐才这样做的，很多地方我都希望它是clickable的才更能突出这种鼓的清脆感
02:04:406 (3,4) - 换滑条为什么呢，跟的鼓啊
02:13:952 (5,6,7,8) - DS太大，结尾不应该更小么结尾音更重啊
02:28:185 (7) - 这个贴滑条尾难打去下一个就是为了强调重音啊
02:34:236 (5) - NC没有特殊原因为什么nc呢
02:33:895 (2,3,3,4) - 干脆都换滑条吧，不顺手后面的滑条都是只对应一个音的，这里有两个snare音，我希望都clickable
02:38:838 (6,7,8) - 这里没什么意义啊为什么要跳红线放去蓝线，干脆把7拉去红线不，这里跟的鼓，很明显红线没音而蓝线有
02:48:043 (3,4,5) - 这里节奏 ctrl+g才对这里circle对应的snare音不是更明显么
02:49:747 (6,7,8) - 同上面说过的（后面还有）同上
这个难度的后段很多地方不符合我的自己的节奏下法啊，很多该按的没放到，我还是客观摸那么多好了。

好多太鼓难度，祝早飞！

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Ellyu 2017-03-20T10:02:39+00:00

No reply = fixed
@怕他大神基本上都是一些很总体的意见，我在慢慢改
@四萌，喵扶谢谢！！>_<
@kanor 我现在手上没有什么比较好的转码工具，可能要请别人来改一下音效问题

Thank you guys! Updated!

Binguo

308 posts

Joined April 2015

Binguo 2017-03-21T14:06:23+00:00

来了
[EASY]
00:10:543 (2) - 指向应该更加明显比如 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7620510
00:28:270 (1,2) - 这种不太好对新人要友善滑条直接白线
01:35:770 (4,1) - 尽量避免重叠免得多事
01:50:088 (1) - 叠好

[hard]
00:03:043 (3) - 叠好
00:14:463 (3,1) - 为什么只有这里叠的不一样
00:17:020 (2) - 同一这种还是多注意点
00:21:963 (2) - 感觉三连更合适
00:30:315 (3) - clrt+J
01:19:406 (4) - 这个音和附近的不一样应该区别对待比如说放远点
01:40:202 (1,1) - 此处应该重叠
02:22:815 (1,2) - 看起来像是为了增加难度不过我还是觉得继续用滑条更合适

[Hyper]
00:04:747 (2) - 你还是没叠好做的时候关闭堆叠效果
00:13:611 (2) - 难看 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7620600 至少这样
00:17:361 (1) - 这里明显不适合跟人声
01:16:849 - 明显有音的 01:16:850 (3,4) - 直接退在后面红线上滑条用3/4
02:17:361 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 这个就很迷了

[Another]
00:40:884 (2) - flow有点差
01:05:599 (2,3,4,5,6) - 为什么不一样
02:17:361 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - 同hyp
02:27:162 (2,3) - 叠在一起完全分开吧这样贴这丑

[E=mc2]
00:15:997 (1,2,3) - ？为什么这个梗只有这一处 00:13:270 (1,2,3,4) - 00:18:724 (1,2,3,4) - 这些地方也是吧 00:21:452 (1) -
00:27:247 (3) - 比较卡手而且是毫无道理的卡手
00:27:247 (3,2,3,2,3) - 这种地方用滑条更带感
01:16:935 (6,7) - 丑
01:29:804 (2) - 为什么唯独这里线是歪的完全可以弄平的
02:24:349 - 我记得这里Hyper是有转盘的这里为什么没有 another也是
02:35:770 (1) - 音不弱吧未免太慢了点
03:11:906 (1) - 类似的地方间距总是不一样注意

牛逼

_Yiiiii

474 posts

Joined February 2015

_Yiiiii 2017-03-22T11:39:48+00:00

kanor's mod

kanor wrote:
[i4]
00:14:463 (6,1,2) - 6叠1上感觉更舒服，因为你叠在前面的话红线起跳不是很舒服，不了，因为1的音很突然，所以这里的6要stack一下然后跳
00:23:497 (3,4) - 节奏ctrl+g一下更舒服改了
00:43:270 (1,2,3) - 如果1和2要这么下的话，我觉得把3去掉，2拉长成1/1直接做个停顿可能更好吧，不然现在这样流畅感又不如前面滑条spam，停顿感又不是很强拉长了
00:51:452 (1,2,3) - 同样的节奏，你前面都是1/2带过去的，这里为什么突然要3/4呢 vocal不一样
00:46:849 (5) - 因为你在同一个段落里这里00:52:474 (4) - 有一个停顿，那么这里也停顿一下有个照应更舒服这里有音，而且还不轻，所以要用这种滑条来稍微强调一下

thx~ btw I am i5 ;w;

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345,169,194548,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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172,354,194974,1,8,0:0:0:0:
254,276,195145,1,8,0:0:0:0:
78,149,195315,2,0,P|65:68|93:37,1,93.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
279,149,195656,2,0,L|163:168,1,93.75
373,303,195997,5,2,0:0:0:0:
288,229,196167,1,0,0:0:0:0:
500,158,196338,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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394,193,196593,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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324,83,196935,1,0,0:0:0:0:
324,83,197020,2,0,L|211:65,1,93.75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,42,197276,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,42,197361,6,0,L|133:49,3,46.875,12|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
83,22,197702,2,0,L|90:161,1,93.75
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155,249,198213,2,0,L|201:252,1,46.875
355,325,198384,1,8,0:0:0:0:
342,292,198469,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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275,376,199065,2,8,L|269:272,1,93.75
498,241,199406,1,2,0:0:0:0:
419,322,199577,1,0,0:0:0:0:
431,149,199747,1,8,0:0:0:0:
415,117,199832,1,8,0:0:0:0:
391,92,199917,1,8,0:0:0:0:
360,75,200002,1,8,0:0:0:0:
326,69,200088,6,0,L|264:73,1,37.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,231,200259,2,0,P|305:168|291:133,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
220,131,200599,1,2,0:0:0:0:
229,318,200770,2,0,P|279:306|311:320,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,381,201111,1,8,0:0:0:0:
140,226,201281,1,8,0:0:0:0:
351,226,201452,5,2,0:0:0:0:
378,219,201537,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,203,201622,1,0,0:0:0:0:
415,179,201707,1,0,0:0:0:0:
421,152,201793,2,8,L|414:54,1,75,10|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
385,290,202134,1,8,0:0:0:0:
471,265,202304,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,367,202474,2,8,L|318:313,3,37.5
282,353,202815,6,0,L|184:352,1,75,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
162,345,203071,1,0,0:0:0:0:
162,345,203156,1,8,0:0:0:0:
134,259,203327,1,0,0:0:0:0:
321,212,203497,1,8,0:0:0:0:
371,137,203668,2,0,P|365:75|338:56,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
221,82,204009,1,8,0:0:0:0:
247,269,204179,6,0,L|153:263,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
52,157,204520,2,8,L|53:112,3,37.5
56,74,204861,2,0,P|99:93|152:82,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,44,205202,1,8,0:0:0:0:
240,44,205287,1,8,0:0:0:0:
240,44,205372,1,8,0:0:0:0:
323,201,205543,5,6,0:0:0:0:
323,201,205628,1,0,0:0:0:0:
323,201,205713,1,0,0:0:0:0:
207,251,205884,2,0,L|209:157,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
198,132,206139,1,0,0:0:0:0:
198,132,206224,2,0,P|152:100|105:105,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,239,206565,2,0,P|124:215|133:180,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
76,354,206906,6,0,L|160:352,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
306,329,207247,1,0,0:0:0:0:
254,254,207418,1,8,0:0:0:0:
254,254,207503,1,8,0:0:0:0:
254,254,207588,2,0,P|253:200|289:172,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
403,181,207929,1,8,0:0:0:0:
413,155,208014,1,8,0:0:0:0:
415,127,208099,1,8,0:0:0:0:
406,100,208184,1,8,0:0:0:0:
390,78,208270,6,0,L|323:85,3,37.5,4|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,71,208611,2,8,L|270:67,3,37.5
235,37,208952,1,2,0:0:0:0:
235,65,209037,1,0,0:0:0:0:
236,93,209122,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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383,191,209974,2,0,P|336:189|295:217,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
253,365,210315,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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152,191,210911,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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90,24,211509,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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274,312,213384,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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283,249,215259,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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260,299,218838,1,8,0:0:0:0:
59,368,219009,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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203,69,219690,1,0,0:0:0:0:
350,115,219861,2,0,L|345:216,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
228,307,220202,1,8,0:0:0:0:
228,307,220372,1,8,0:0:0:0:
398,279,220543,6,0,P|474:296|485:317,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
389,366,220884,1,8,0:0:0:0:
389,366,220969,1,8,0:0:0:0:
389,366,221054,1,8,0:0:0:0:
367,189,221224,1,2,0:0:0:0:
306,304,221395,1,8,0:0:0:0:
258,227,221565,1,8,0:0:0:0:
159,354,221736,6,0,L|112:353,1,37.5
145,283,221906,2,0,L|101:265,1,37.5
156,211,222077,2,0,L|120:180,1,37.5
190,147,222247,2,0,L|167:105,1,37.5

然后是说好的摸

General

Song setup --> Design
Wide Screen support -- off 因为没sb
Enable countdown -- off 因为这玩应早就没人用了

Easy

00:28:270 (1,2) - 滑条减1/2拍，这里的1/2节奏出的太突然，当做简化节奏。而且easy难度这种diff snap到白线没人会挑，反而1/2会被挑。
03:36:452 (1,2) - ^ 挺推荐改的，因为整个图就这俩1/2
01:09:179 (1) - 这个Ctrl+G一下然后摆回去，flow顺一点，用大众的话来讲就是新手会对flow很敏感，最好只在重音出现这种滑条不指下一个note的情况，或者说故意不指的情况。
01:37:815 (1,1) - 这俩NC挑一个去掉，我推荐滑条的NC去掉，easy的NC情况越简单越好，不用像高难度一样对于很多情况进行NC处理。
01:48:724 (3,1) - Stack
02:26:906 (3) - 撸直吧，个人感觉好看点。

Hard

00:02:361 (1,3) - Stack
00:15:997 (1,2) - ^
00:06:452 (1,1) - 这个形状有点危险，推荐换个常见点的。
01:38:156 (1,1,1,1) - 去掉NC，没啥实际意义，虽说这段特殊，但是也不需要全部NC来强调。
01:54:179 (1,2,3) - 01:59:634 (1,2,3) - 统一一下。
03:07:134 (3,1) - 03:24:349 (2,5) - Hard还想着搞事，等着被按在地上摩擦吧。
大概你想包blanket的地方都没包好.......

顺便，hard应该可以加几个三连什么的了，推荐换掉几个1/4的短滑条，换成burst

Hyper

00:33:384 (1) - 没NC的必要... 其实留着也行，只是按常规来讲没必要加。
01:16:935 (3,4) - 太难读，可以在01:16:849 - overmap一个圈，或者在这里01:16:679 - 起一个滑条，在现在的圈那里停。
02:05:429 (2,3) - 在同一段里滑条尽量用同样的reverse次数，推荐把前面的那个改成1/4三连。
03:08:838 (5) - 03:14:293 (5,4) - ^ 这个也改成连打吧，都hyper了，没问题的。
03:23:497 (3,4,5) - 怕是要被搞事，弄简单一点。

Another

01:17:361 (1,1,1,1) - 这里既然只有第四下的音和DS不同，所以只需要留着开头的那一下和第四下。后同。
01:26:224 (1,1) - 顺便这俩由于音一样所以只NC第一个就够了。
01:34:918 (4,1) - 1有重音，DS大点，这里用减间距强调不合适，因为之前都没用。
01:40:202 (1,1,1) - 这三下NC有点乱，是中间那一下导致的，容易读错。可以把第二下去掉NC，或者这俩叠一下，正好因为中间的那个圈上没vocal，所以停一下正好，还方便读。
01:58:270 (1,3) - 美观问题：滑条overlap一般都是两个画风完全不同或者完全相同的滑条相叠的，这俩叠着不合适，因为他俩都是向同一个方向弯，但是只有第一个有白点，所以显得很怪，可以考虑把第一个撸直点。后同。02:03:043 (5,1) - 这种就没问题。
02:30:315 (6,7) - 02:27:588 (5,6) - 02:26:906 (1,2) - 注意1/4前DS的统一，尤其是这种切指段。
02:33:724 (1,2,3) - 02:28:270 (1,2,3) - 摆放方式最好也统一一下。
02:41:821 (10,1) - 这么拆的效果不好，玩家很难在移动方向不变的情况下突然加速，所以这样的效果是让玩家紧张，就像我Daisy里的四方一样，紧张不等于强调。如果你要的是强调效果的话，建议改一下，只需要让这一下跳的方向和串的结尾的方向有一定夹角就行了，大概超过30°就可以。比如这个02:47:020 (7,8,9,10) - Ctrl+J再放回去就会好很多。顺便注意拆开的间距统一。03:08:838 (5,6,7,8,1) - 这个就做的很好。后同
02:58:781 (2) - SV变了，NC一下。

E=mc^2

00:11:565 (1) - SV变化幅度可以再大一点，而且这里不该是低SV么？
00:54:861 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - 棒！
01:17:361 (1) - 这一段NC推荐同Another的用法。
01:27:077 (1,1,1) - 渐变SV不需要全部NC
02:00:997 (1,2,3,4) - 这里的切指会很蛋疼，因为是条完之后的奇数下，单双玩家会是副指开始的，明显是用来故意制造恐慌的。而且这里的DS和其它1/4用法都不一样。推荐直接改节奏。
02:13:952 (5,6,7,8,1) - 这个梗爽。
后面那一大段的拆串推荐按照Another的建议改。顺便这种03:30:656 (7,8,9,10,1) - 推荐留着这样就得了，因为不属于拆串的范围，只是DS增大。
02:38:838 (6,7) - 整段切指段就它一个叠上的二连。之后副歌也是有类似的问题，建议用视觉上相同的东西来处理相同的节奏。

没辣

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Ellyu 2017-03-23T14:48:42+00:00

Misaki-Mei wrote:
来了
[EASY]
00:10:543 (2) - 指向应该更加明显比如 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7620510
00:28:270 (1,2) - 这种不太好对新人要友善滑条直接白线
01:35:770 (4,1) - 尽量避免重叠免得多事
01:50:088 (1) - 叠好

[hard]
00:03:043 (3) - 叠好
00:14:463 (3,1) - 为什么只有这里叠的不一样
00:17:020 (2) - 同一这种还是多注意点
00:21:963 (2) - 感觉三连更合适
00:30:315 (3) - clrt+J
01:19:406 (4) - 这个音和附近的不一样应该区别对待比如说放远点
01:40:202 (1,1) - 此处应该重叠
02:22:815 (1,2) - 看起来像是为了增加难度不过我还是觉得继续用滑条更合适

[Hyper]
00:04:747 (2) - 你还是没叠好做的时候关闭堆叠效果
00:13:611 (2) - 难看 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7620600 至少这样
00:17:361 (1) - 这里明显不适合跟人声
01:16:849 - 明显有音的 01:16:850 (3,4) - 直接退在后面红线上滑条用3/4
02:17:361 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 这个就很迷了

[Another]
00:40:884 (2) - flow有点差
01:05:599 (2,3,4,5,6) - 为什么不一样
02:17:361 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - 同hyp
02:27:162 (2,3) - 叠在一起完全分开吧这样贴这丑

[E=mc2]
00:15:997 (1,2,3) - ？为什么这个梗只有这一处 00:13:270 (1,2,3,4) - 00:18:724 (1,2,3,4) - 这些地方也是吧 00:21:452 (1) -
00:27:247 (3) - 比较卡手而且是毫无道理的卡手
00:27:247 (3,2,3,2,3) - 这种地方用滑条更带感
01:16:935 (6,7) - 丑
01:29:804 (2) - 为什么唯独这里线是歪的完全可以弄平的
02:24:349 - 我记得这里Hyper是有转盘的这里为什么没有 another也是
02:35:770 (1) - 音不弱吧未免太慢了点
03:11:906 (1) - 类似的地方间距总是不一样注意

牛逼

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Ellyu 2017-03-23T14:57:12+00:00

_Yiiiii wrote:
Easy
02:26:906 (3) - 撸直吧，个人感觉好看点。我觉得没问题啊
Hard

[*]00:06:452 (1,1) - 这个形状有点危险，推荐换个常见点的。不危险
[*]01:38:156 (1,1,1,1) - 去掉NC，没啥实际意义，虽说这段特殊，但是也不需要全部NC来强调。我喜欢nc啊
[*]01:54:179 (1,2,3) - 01:59:634 (1,2,3) - 统一一下。渐变梗
[*]大概你想包blanket的地方都没包好.......[/list]
顺便，hard应该可以加几个三连什么的了，推荐换掉几个1/4的短滑条，换成burst给进阶玩家玩的，其实更想一个比较难的normal，想要更好体验左转hyper

Hyper
02:05:429 (2,3) - 在同一段里滑条尽量用同样的reverse次数，推荐把前面的那个改成1/4三连。这里有音啊，不改了
03:23:497 (3,4,5) - 怕是要被搞事，弄简单一点。这也难，我用笔记本底下的触摸屏都能稳稳打上
Another
01:17:361 (1,1,1,1) - 这里既然只有第四下的音和DS不同，所以只需要留着开头的那一下和第四下。后同。我爱nc啊
01:26:224 (1,1) - 顺便这俩由于音一样所以只NC第一个就够了。
01:34:918 (4,1) - 1有重音，DS大点，这里用减间距强调不合适，因为之前都没用。
01:58:270 (1,3) - 美观问题：滑条overlap一般都是两个画风完全不同或者完全相同的滑条相叠的，这俩叠着不合适，因为他俩都是向同一个方向弯，但是只有第一个有白点，所以显得很怪，可以考虑把第一个撸直点。后同。02:03:043 (5,1) - 这种就没问题。没毛病，酒神的很多图都有这种overlap
02:30:315 (6,7) - 02:27:588 (5,6) - 02:26:906 (1,2) - 注意1/4前DS的统一，尤其是这种切指段。你指出的都是音乐不同情绪的地方啊
E=mc^2
00:11:565 (1) - SV变化幅度可以再大一点，而且这里不该是低SV么？高sv也能强调啊
02:00:997 (1,2,3,4) - 这里的切指会很蛋疼，因为是条完之后的奇数下，单双玩家会是副指开始的，明显是用来故意制造恐慌的。而且这里的DS和其它1/4用法都不一样。推荐直接改节奏。蓝线有音，但比较轻，这样处理是最能体现曲子的方法
02:38:838 (6,7) - 整段切指段就它一个叠上的二连。之后副歌也是有类似的问题，建议用视觉上相同的东西来处理相同的节奏。这里紧接的两个二连，第一个叠上第二个不叠就是为了突出第二个，因为第二个下面音更重
没辣

Syph

Beatmap Nominator

848 posts

Joined August 2014

Syph 2017-03-23T18:28:53+00:00

hi
sorry for short mod but don't like song that much, just mod same amount of drain or smth

Another

01:36:963 (4,5) - emphasize the jump to 5 more? doesnt seem enough right now
01:40:884 (1,2,3,4,5) - and this seems a bit too much
01:46:338 (2,4) - fix blanket
02:17:361 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - same as with top diff, i think you should tone it down a bit
03:00:656 (6,7) - are you sure about this? i can't really tell what you're trying to follow here.. maybe just put slider on white tick
03:41:736 (7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - why a stream here but kicksliders in top diff, i think should be the opposite ><

nice diff!

E=mc^2

00:00:827 (1) - personally i would stack this on 00:00:997 (1) - as the sound here isnt that strong
00:17:361 (1,2,3) - spacing feels too much, try putting 2 at 244|111? feels better
00:27:673 - why ignore this sound ;w; you should do a triple
00:44:634 (1) - maybe add a finish here?
00:55:202 (1,1,1,1,1) - this is really weird to play, i'd put them a lot closer to eachother
01:27:588 (1) - cool hitsound w
01:30:997 (1,2,3,4) - this doesnt look that nice, i dont really understand why you spaced 2 more from 1 than you did with the rest, same applies for the rest after this
02:17:361 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - pls tone down spacing here, way too much for such a calm section
02:47:361 (1,3) - so hard to read ;w;

gl~

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Ellyu 2017-03-24T12:38:17+00:00

Syph wrote:
hi
sorry for short mod but don't like song that much, just mod same amount of drain or smth

Another

01:40:884 (1,2,3,4,5) - and this seems a bit too muchisn't too hard. And the mood is strong here
03:00:656 (6,7) - are you sure about this? i can't really tell what you're trying to follow here.. maybe just put slider on white ticksnap on the snare hit.
03:41:736 (7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - why a stream here but kicksliders in top diff, i think should be the opposite ><yep I finish another half year ago and forgot sth now. But I think it's ok.;w;

nice diff!

E=mc^2

01:30:997 (1,2,3,4) - this doesnt look that nice, i dont really understand why you spaced 2 more from 1 than you did with the rest, same applies for the rest after thisoops this is a big mistake.thanks for point it out! btw I put 123 linearly so i think others are fine.I like this linear pattern and I think it fix to the music well.
02:47:361 (1,3) - so hard to read ;w;umm.fix a little but still no change in spacing. I think a top player like you could read it man

gl~

Thanks for mod!

_Yiiiii

474 posts

Joined February 2015

_Yiiiii 2017-03-27T15:07:09+00:00

[b][color=#800000]T[/color][color=#800040]a[/color][color=#800080]i[/color][color=#804040]k[/color][color=#804000]o[/color][/b] diffs by me

[b][color=#0000FF]M[/color][color=#0040FF]a[/color][color=#0080FF]n[/color][color=#0040FF]i[/color][color=#0000FF]a[/color][/b] diffs by [profile]MEGAtive[/profile] wip

[b][color=#0080FF]Platter[/color][/b] and [b][color=#FF8000]salad[/color][/b] by [profile]Yumeno Himiko[/profile] wip
[b][color=#8000FF]Rain[/color][/b] by [profile]Tenshichan[/profile] wip

[b][color=#00BF00]Easy[/color][/b] by me 100%
[b][color=#00BFFF]Normal[/color][/b] by [profile]Pata-Mon[/profile] 100%
[b][color=#FF8000]Hard[/color][/b] by me 100%
[b][color=#FF4000]Hyper[/color][/b] by me 100%
[b][color=#FF0000]Insane[/color][/b] by _Yiiiii 100%
[b][color=#BF0000]Another[/color][/b] by me 100%
[b][color=#8000FF]Extra(E=mc^2)[/color][/b] by me 100%
[b]Hitsound[/b] too hard for me lol.still wip

cw请换上这个，我强迫症犯了

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Ellyu 2017-03-27T15:23:41+00:00

_Yiiiii wrote:

[b][color=#800000]T[/color][color=#800040]a[/color][color=#800080]i[/color][color=#804040]k[/color][color=#804000]o[/color][/b] diffs by me

[b][color=#0000FF]M[/color][color=#0040FF]a[/color][color=#0080FF]n[/color][color=#0040FF]i[/color][color=#0000FF]a[/color][/b] diffs by [profile]MEGAtive[/profile] wip

[b][color=#0080FF]Platter[/color][/b] and [b][color=#FF8000]salad[/color][/b] by [profile]Yumeno Himiko[/profile] wip
[b][color=#8000FF]Rain[/color][/b] by [profile]Tenshichan[/profile] wip

[b][color=#00BF00]Easy[/color][/b] by me 100%
[b][color=#00BFFF]Normal[/color][/b] by [profile]Pata-Mon[/profile] 100%
[b][color=#FF8000]Hard[/color][/b] by me 100%
[b][color=#FF4000]Hyper[/color][/b] by me 100%
[b][color=#FF0000]Insane[/color][/b] by _Yiiiii 100%
[b][color=#BF0000]Another[/color][/b] by me 100%
[b][color=#8000FF]Extra(E=mc^2)[/color][/b] by me 100%
[b]Hitsound[/b] too hard for me lol.still wip

cw请换上这个，我强迫症犯了

好的

ProfessionalBox

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

771 posts

Joined September 2013

ProfessionalBox 2017-03-28T13:59:19+00:00

chatlog

16:21 handsome muscle: Hi! Have time to do a testplay?
16:30 handsome muscle: ;w;
16:32 ProfessionalBox: hello!
16:32 handsome muscle: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/533037

16:33 ProfessionalBox: I can't properly testplay since I haven't played for over a week so idk if you could take anything out of my super rusty playing
16:33 ProfessionalBox: but if you still want to see me try I guess I can
16:33 ProfessionalBox: xd
16:33 handsome muscle: yeah ok
16:33 handsome muscle: just want to get some tips
16:34 handsome muscle: and it is not a hard one
16:35 ProfessionalBox: 1 minute
16:35 ProfessionalBox: need to check one email
16:40 ProfessionalBox: ok
16:40 ProfessionalBox: now lets see
16:44 handsome muscle: how is that
16:44 ProfessionalBox: its very clean
16:44 ProfessionalBox: thats what I like the most
16:44 ProfessionalBox: slidershapes are clean and structured
16:45 ProfessionalBox: object placements don't feel random and flow is alright
16:45 ProfessionalBox: nice emphasis with different slider velocies
16:45 ProfessionalBox: the biggest problem is the spacing you have at some points
16:45 ProfessionalBox: it spikes too hard in difficulty
16:45 handsome muscle:

I got few things I want to ask
16:45 ProfessionalBox: sure
16:45 ProfessionalBox: let me link you some of the parts that were a bit too largely spaced
16:46 handsome muscle: oh yeah that's good
16:46 ProfessionalBox: 01:46:849 (2,3) - also this doesn't flow well
16:46 ProfessionalBox: its quite bad
16:46 ProfessionalBox: you should fix it
16:47 ProfessionalBox: 02:01:338 (2,3,4) - This doesn't feel right rhythmwise in this song
16:47 ProfessionalBox: 02:01:253 - my brain tells me to click here
16:47 ProfessionalBox: so you should shorten the slider so that it ends at 02:01:168 -
16:47 ProfessionalBox: 02:01:253 - and add circle here
16:48 handsome muscle: uhh yeah most of the modders point it out
16:48 ProfessionalBox: 02:28:185 (7,1) - This feels out of place
16:48 ProfessionalBox: 02:28:185 (7,1) - these should overlap
16:48 ProfessionalBox: instead of 02:27:929 (6,7) -
16:49 ProfessionalBox: then it feels much better
16:49 handsome muscle: the beat on 1 is heavy
16:49 handsome muscle: Is it just emphasize wrongly?
16:49 ProfessionalBox: yeah
16:49 ProfessionalBox: the idea is fine but 02:27:929 (6,7) - these shouldn't touch and you can add more spacing between these
16:49 handsome muscle: umm...
16:50 ProfessionalBox: then it emphasizes 02:28:270 (1) - well imo
16:50 handsome muscle: Oh yeah sure
16:50 ProfessionalBox: http://puu.sh/v1aOV/c77327d3c7.jpg something like this would be fine too
16:51 ProfessionalBox: 02:44:378 (8) - blue tick kicksliders
16:51 ProfessionalBox: are bad
16:51 ProfessionalBox: 99% of the time
16:51 ProfessionalBox: it feels weird here too
16:51 handsome muscle: circle better?
16:52 ProfessionalBox: 02:47:276 (10,1) - this looks nice but the movement is super sharp and hard to hit
16:52 handsome muscle: cuz there is a snare hit on the bluetick
16:52 ProfessionalBox: https://puu.sh/v1aVj/dd87fce063.jpg
16:53 ProfessionalBox: I'd use rhythm like this for that kickslider part
16:53 handsome muscle: oh well I will consider about it
16:53 handsome muscle: some other player say it's fine
16:53 ProfessionalBox: 02:52:474 (7,8,9,10,1) - https://puu.sh/v1aX8/dfc558e416.jpg
16:53 ProfessionalBox: I'd use something like that for better movement but same emphasiz
16:54 ProfessionalBox: 02:57:929 (1,2,3,1) - this is way too hard imo
16:54 ProfessionalBox: the movement is so sharp
16:54 ProfessionalBox: which makes it hard to hit with that spacing
16:55 ProfessionalBox: https://puu.sh/v1b0Q/5133430834.jpg this is ok
16:55 handsome muscle: so space between 231 should be smaller?
16:55 ProfessionalBox: yea
16:56 ProfessionalBox: those were the issues I had
16:56 handsome muscle: ok just one more question
16:56 ProfessionalBox: sure
16:56 handsome muscle: 01:27:588 (1) -
16:57 handsome muscle: this have you notice the hitsound
16:57 handsome muscle: I cut it from the mp3 lol
16:57 handsome muscle: is that fine
16:57 ProfessionalBox: yeah for sure
16:57 ProfessionalBox: you can hitsound with whatever you like
16:58 ProfessionalBox: so thats only positive
16:58 handsome muscle: 01:40:202 (1,2) - this one too?
16:58 ProfessionalBox: you can hitsound a song to sound completely different if you want
16:58 ProfessionalBox: yeah those sound great
16:58 handsome muscle: I not pretty sure cuz I have never seem this before in any maps
16:58 handsome muscle: ok thanks
16:58 ProfessionalBox: no problem
16:58 handsome muscle: post this to the thread I will give kds

SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,108 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2017-03-28T17:28:26+00:00

M4M 統一用英文摸了

- check ai mod

[ E=mc^2 ]

00:00:997 - maybe loower the volume here, the hs rn is pretty loud, 30% sound pretty suit for me
00:49:065 (1) - 00:49:406 (1) - NC is pretty unnecessary, no need to emphasis the sound here
00:54:520 (1,1) - yap same here
00:55:202 - this is pretty inconsistent with 00:33:384 - , there both sound the same, so the structure should be the same either since player would expect the same thing either
00:57:247 (3,4) - ill keep the spacing consist here either > x1.12
01:09:179 (1,2) - spaced out more oor just stack them, this seems pretty weird
01:16:679 (5,6,7) - 02:03:043 - this pretty confused player imo, since u never used this structure b4 and there isnt a specific sound to support this either
01:36:281 (1) - pretty unnecessary NC
01:41:906 - add kiai here would be nice
01:43:611 (3) - 01:54:520 (3) - NC for structure consistent
01:48:043 (1) - unnecessary NC
02:11:565 (1) - i wont NC here for structure consistent
02:27:929 (6,7,1) - this pretty confused player either, make the spacing smaller would be prefered
03:17:020 (6,1,2) - structure here isnt rly fitting the music, 03:17:361 (1,2) - stack these would be better
03:41:736 - snapping is definitely wrong here lol

[Another]

00:53:497 (3,4) - 00:53:838 (5,6) - should be the same spacing
01:33:043 (5,6,1,2) - flow isnt rly good here, try move to 206 337 or swhere else
01:40:713 (2,1) - the drum sound here deserved more spacing emphasis
01:41:906 - same, kiai here would be better
02:57:929 (1,2,3,1) - this is a huge difficult spike lol is even harder then the hardest diff, try different structure to emphasis this part
03:28:611 (2,3) - make the spacing smaller here to stay consistent with other part, player would misread here
03:41:736 - same here, snapped is wrong

[iiiii's Insane]

00:10:202 (2,3,4) - 00:13:270 (3,4,5) - stay spacing consistent here
01:05:940 (5,6) - spaced out a bit would be better
02:14:634 - add a note fr finisher would be preferred
02:27:588 (4,5) - avoid sliderend head overlap with sliderbody since is rly hard to read
03:41:736 - same with other diff, the snapping isnt correct here

pretty nic song

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Ellyu 2017-03-30T09:43:57+00:00

no reply = fixed
kiai time will be add when the whole mapset finished

SnowNiNo_ wrote:
M4M 統一用英文摸了

- check ai mod

[ E=mc^2 ]
00:55:202 - this is pretty inconsistent with 00:33:384 - , there both sound the same, so the structure should be the same either since player would expect the same thing eitherno. the after one is much more strong
00:57:247 (3,4) - ill keep the spacing consist here either > x1.12enlager the space for the pitch enhancing
01:16:679 (5,6,7) - 02:03:043 - this pretty confused player imo, since u never used this structure b4 and there isnt a specific sound to support this either
03:17:020 (6,1,2) - structure here isnt rly fitting the music, 03:17:361 (1,2) - stack these would be betterthey r all strong beat so there should be space between them.
03:41:736 - snapping is definitely wrong here lolOh,nice. U r the first guy who point out it. I mapped 11 diffs and didn't notice that! Sure it just like it a 7/8 stream lol. Pretty weird.
For the nc stuff: Some place nc can help me to read the map, and some another place for the stronger mood and big jump, few nc is for challenging the player or for the hp. yeah but I still fix some.

[list][Another]
[*]00:53:497 (3,4) - 00:53:838 (5,6) - should be the same spacingpitch enhanced here

pretty nic song

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Ellyu 2017-03-30T09:50:00+00:00

@nino 谢摸，真的很有用
@probox most of ur tips are accepted except the kick sliders on the blue tick. Yeah they give weird filling for players. But there is definitely a snare hit on the blue tick and no beat at the red one. This is the best way to express the song imo. For the filling of players, I just delete all the kick slider on the Another. So there is at least one diff which is for play.
@i5改模啦，还有最后一个地方bpm有微小变化，你看下怎么改合适

Last edited by Ellyu 2017-03-30T15:30:18+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

_Yiiiii

474 posts

Joined February 2015

_Yiiiii 2017-03-30T14:58:15+00:00

place holder for the reply to the mod
I am very very very busy this days, will clear all the mods on Saturday.

Tenshichan

595 posts

Joined September 2011

Tenshichan 2017-03-30T21:14:22+00:00

Done with my Rain, hope you like it~
sorry for the delay orz

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DreaM117er

1,596 posts

Joined September 2012

DreaM117er 2017-03-31T11:55:07+00:00

[Easy]

01:03:724 (6,1) - swap NC
01:17:020 (3) - 這裡白線沒有聲音啊，刪掉circle或是把01:16:679 (2) - 改成2白線長的滑條
01:40:884 (3) - ??????????????????????
02:17:361 (1,1,1) - 強烈建議刪掉，增加新手們煩人程度的東西不要放上Easy
02:32:361 (3,4,1,2) - 我覺得這樣節奏比較好，試試看: http://puu.sh/v4ndH/7aa30884d5.jpg

後面沒問題

[Normal]

02:14:634 (1,1,1,1) - 我的建議根Easy一樣，長曲子的建議還是把完整的breaktime保留，斷斷續續的只會讓人覺得很煩
03:19:406 (5) - 2個circle在白線，比滑條帶感太多

感想放心裡就好，不予置評

[Hard]

就我所有的難度都看過一次的感想，我不覺得節奏上有問題。不過就排列...Hard和Hyper都一個樣，我是覺得有待加強
00:06:452 (1) - 00:07:815 (1) - 要nazi就做好一點，這個頭不像頭，尾不像尾的；00:21:452 (1) - 這個就拉得很好，大概像這樣就是極限，畢竟Hard也算是給中低階玩家玩的，判讀物件還是要仁慈一些
我知道你有跟DS，不過我覺得在很多地方都沒有放好。比方00:13:270 (1,2) - 這裡，我就看不太懂你這裡的間距調配的意義在哪，請務必整個難度有類似的都方都要改
00:14:634 (1,2,3) - 還有我也不太懂你這裡增加艱鉅的意義在哪，沒有明顯起伏也隨意的增加間距，這不大好
01:05:599 (2,3) - Hard而已，建議不要放這樣啊；而且你在01:15:997 (1,2) - 這裡擺得比較好呢，前面1/1滑條中間漏音沒做出來233
01:27:588 (4) - 可以減速
01:38:156 (1,1,1,1,1) - 這裡是我覺得做的超好的地方，繼續保持
02:11:565 (4,1) - 02:46:509 (2,3) - 03:19:918 (5) - 注意間距
03:08:497 (3,4) - 這個太遠了點，拉近些
03:40:884 (2,1) - 這裡調一下間距，感覺調遠沒有關係

[Hyper]

一樣的間距問題就再提一次
00:04:747 (2,1) -
00:26:906 (1,2,3) - 同樣也是起伏不大就跳遠，一樣00:29:463 (3) -
00:41:565 (4) - 建議擺在滑條尾的右下角，也是讀圖的問題。00:50:088 (1) - 這裡是太嚴重，這裡我覺得必改不可
00:43:952 (1,2) - 換成4個circle，怎麼擺看你；至少比2個滑條好玩很多
00:46:679 (5) - 這個跟好DS再包blanket並沒有太困難，現在這樣也是無意義的跳遠。一樣00:51:281 (6,1) -
00:52:134 (3,1) - 這裡是很好的範例，繼續保持
00:58:270 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - 這裡的間距務必全修
01:16:849 (3,4,5,1) - 這裡的間距也要改
01:29:974 (3,4) - 間距過遠啦。01:32:702 (3,4) - 一樣
01:45:827 (4) - 01:50:599 (2) - 這裡為什麼要擺這麼遠??
02:19:747 (9) - NC plz
02:35:770 (1) - 這裡不能用0.3x，必改不可
02:46:679 (3,4,5) - 1/2+5連打
02:47:361 (1,2) - 這裡節奏沒有問題嗎?? 給你思考2333

[Insane]

00:43:440 (2) - 這裡節奏下的不好啊
01:00:315 (3,4,5) - 這裡排列老實說...很爛...玩Insane別搞得跟Ex一樣可不可以??
01:52:645 (5) - 我覺得跟01:52:474 (4) - 疊在一起比較好，不知道為什麼233
01:55:372 (7) - 我覺得這裡用不到1/4短條，想問你為什麼要用?? 02:00:827 (7) - 一樣
01:57:588 (5,6,7) - 這裡應該會被砲死...這裡也是02:03:043 (5,6,7) -
02:14:634 - 這裡是不是少了東西??
02:51:281 (8,1) - 太遠了，比起其他地方的短條

開頭的頓點作的很好，繼續保持

[Another]

我覺得這個難度做得最好，一些小地方感覺沒放好，其他都值得稱讚
01:16:679 (5,6,7) - 這個節奏危險，感覺需要做NC之類的判讀
02:14:207 (4,5) - 沒必要分開

[光速]

00:55:202 (1,1,1,1,1) - 這個不行，之前有看過實例。尤其這裡00:55:457 (1,1) - 沒辦法玩

其他不看啦

懶炸...摸完圖之後並沒有獲得什麼回報...

09kami

829 posts

Joined August 2010

09kami 2017-03-31T16:23:44+00:00

09kami wrote:
[General]

Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms :

soft-hitclap10.wav

soft-hitclap11.wav

soft-hitfinish10.wav

soft-hitnormal.wav

soft-hitnormal4.wav

soft-hitwhistle4.wav

taiko-soft-hitclap10.wav

taiko-soft-hitclap11.wav

taiko-soft-hitfinish10.wav

Hitsounds must have an acceptable range of delay under 5ms, unless there's a special purpose. Every hitsound file should start in time, preferrably at 0ms. This is to ensure that every map doesn't sound mistimed, and therefore could provide acceptably synchronized rhythm feedback to players.

有些难度的结束时间不同

[Easy]

最好还是在01:17:361 - 这个地方添加一个转盘低难度如果没有转盘会使排行榜的分数几乎都一样

[Hard]

00:01:509 (3) - 删掉这个note 把00:00:997 (2) - 拉到这里

00:06:452 (1) - 00:07:815 (1) - 这种红点折返滑条不适合出现在低难度

00:54:861 (3,4,1) - 这种排列已经不是hard了...而且像这种00:55:202 (4,1) - 短折返滑条接后面一个Note或者一个滑条的情况不是说按DS拍是最好打的因为这种短折返滑条玩家一般不会跟着滑条去摆动而是把鼠标停留在一个点去读完所以后面反而是拉开些才会好打

[E=mc^2]

我个人是所有变速绿线第一个滑条都会NC

01:26:906 (1,1,2,3) - 这个会误导吧 01:27:418 (3,1) - 而且这个链接得不是很好

[Futsuu]

02:58:270 (61) - unsnapped timing lines

[Muzukashii]

02:58:270 (61) - unsnapped timing lines

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Ellyu 2017-04-01T04:54:21+00:00

09kami wrote:
09kami wrote:
[General]

Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms :

soft-hitclap10.wav

soft-hitclap11.wav

soft-hitfinish10.wav

soft-hitnormal.wav

soft-hitnormal4.wav

soft-hitwhistle4.wav

taiko-soft-hitclap10.wav

taiko-soft-hitclap11.wav

taiko-soft-hitfinish10.wav

Hitsounds must have an acceptable range of delay under 5ms, unless there's a special purpose. Every hitsound file should start in time, preferrably at 0ms. This is to ensure that every map doesn't sound mistimed, and therefore could provide acceptably synchronized rhythm feedback to players.
手头没有好的转码工具，等到wip完以后会找人帮忙
有些难度的结束时间不同这没关系吧

[Easy]

最好还是在01:17:361 - 这个地方添加一个转盘低难度如果没有转盘会使排行榜的分数几乎都一样图里没有适合塞转盘的啊，而且scoreboard的因素不影响图质量吧owo

[Hard]

00:01:509 (3) - 删掉这个note 把00:00:997 (2) - 拉到这里长白线上音那么重跳过不好吧

[E=mc^2]

我个人是所有变速绿线第一个滑条都会NC不一定啊，nc太多反而感觉读起来还难

01:26:906 (1,1,2,3) - 这个会误导吧 01:27:418 (3,1) - 而且这个链接得不是很好不会，屙屎本来就对滑条尾判定很松，而且后面音很重又特殊，这样作挺好的

DreaM117er wrote:
[Easy]

02:32:361 (3,4,1,2) - 我覺得這樣節奏比較好，試試看: http://puu.sh/v4ndH/7aa30884d5.jpg我觉得现在这个节奏也没什么问题啊
後面沒問題

[Hard]
就我所有的難度都看過一次的感想，我不覺得節奏上有問題。不過就排列...Hard和Hyper都一個樣，我是覺得有待加強
00:06:452 (1) - 00:07:815 (1) - 要nazi就做好一點，這個頭不像頭，尾不像尾的；00:21:452 (1) - 這個就拉得很好，大概像這樣就是極限，畢竟Hard也算是給中低階玩家玩的，判讀物件還是要仁慈一些
我知道你有跟DS，不過我覺得在很多地方都沒有放好。比方00:13:270 (1,2) - 這裡，我就看不太懂你這裡的間距調配的意義在哪，請務必整個難度有類似的都方都要改
00:14:634 (1,2,3) - 還有我也不太懂你這裡增加艱鉅的意義在哪，沒有明顯起伏也隨意的增加間距，這不大好
01:05:599 (2,3) - Hard而已，建議不要放這樣啊；而且你在01:15:997 (1,2) - 這裡擺得比較好呢，前面1/1滑條中間漏音沒做出來233
01:27:588 (4) - 可以減速
01:38:156 (1,1,1,1,1) - 這裡是我覺得做的超好的地方，繼續保持
02:11:565 (4,1) - 02:46:509 (2,3) - 03:19:918 (5) - 注意間距
03:08:497 (3,4) - 這個太遠了點，拉近些
03:40:884 (2,1) - 這裡調一下間距，感覺調遠沒有關係
不是间距的问题我基本都改啦owo其实我有很注意间距的啊，我会比较看重滑条头与下个物件的间距，另外在1/1滑条附近节奏比较简单的我会有意把间距放大一些，不过你说得对，我做的还是有些粗糙，所以现在还在慢慢改
[Hyper]
一樣的間距問題就再提一次
00:04:747 (2,1) -
00:26:906 (1,2,3) - 同樣也是起伏不大就跳遠，一樣00:29:463 (3) -
00:41:565 (4) - 建議擺在滑條尾的右下角，也是讀圖的問題。00:50:088 (1) - 這裡是太嚴重，這裡我覺得必改不可
00:43:952 (1,2) - 換成4個circle，怎麼擺看你；至少比2個滑條好玩很多
00:46:679 (5) - 這個跟好DS再包blanket並沒有太困難，現在這樣也是無意義的跳遠。一樣00:51:281 (6,1) -
00:52:134 (3,1) - 這裡是很好的範例，繼續保持
00:58:270 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - 這裡的間距務必全修
01:16:849 (3,4,5,1) - 這裡的間距也要改
01:29:974 (3,4) - 間距過遠啦。01:32:702 (3,4) - 一樣
01:45:827 (4) - 01:50:599 (2) - 這裡為什麼要擺這麼遠??
02:19:747 (9) - NC plz
02:35:770 (1) - 這裡不能用0.3x，必改不可
02:46:679 (3,4,5) - 1/2+5連打
02:47:361 (1,2) - 這裡節奏沒有問題嗎?? 給你思考2333
回复跟hard一样owo

[Another]
我覺得這個難度做得最好，一些小地方感覺沒放好，其他都值得稱讚
01:16:679 (5,6,7) - 這個節奏危險，感覺需要做NC之類的判讀我看过其他图类似梗这里都可以不用nc就清楚读出来
[光速]

00:55:202 (1,1,1,1,1) - 這個不行，之前有看過實例。尤其這裡00:55:457 (1,1) - 沒辦法玩欸，大部分tester都打的上啊
其他不看啦

懶炸...摸完圖之後並沒有獲得什麼回報...;w;

thx!!!
no reply = fixed
updated!

_Yiiiii

474 posts

Joined February 2015

_Yiiiii 2017-04-01T13:02:33+00:00

NiNo

SnowNiNo_ wrote:
[iiiii's Insane]
00:10:202 (2,3,4) - 00:13:270 (3,4,5) - stay spacing consistent here sounds and sections are different so it doesn't matter
01:05:940 (5,6) - spaced out a bit would be better ok
02:14:634 - add a note fr finisher would be preferred I want to emphasise the sudden stop of drums so no note there
02:27:588 (4,5) - avoid sliderend head overlap with sliderbody since is rly hard to read fixed
03:41:736 - same with other diff, the snapping isnt correct here fixed

117

DreaM117er wrote:
[Insane]

00:43:440 (2) - 這裡節奏下的不好啊改了
01:00:315 (3,4,5) - 這裡排列老實說...很爛...玩Insane別搞得跟Ex一樣可不可以?? 改了
01:52:645 (5) - 我覺得跟01:52:474 (4) - 疊在一起比較好，不知道為什麼233 额...我觉得这里的音比较突然，所以想从那个圈里突然跳出来。而且叠的话会错位，blanket就不好看了XD 不改
01:55:372 (7) - 我覺得這裡用不到1/4短條，想問你為什麼要用?? 02:00:827 (7) - 一樣还好吧，稍微改了一下圈的位置
01:57:588 (5,6,7) - 這裡應該會被砲死...這裡也是02:03:043 (5,6,7) - 改了
02:14:634 - 這裡是不是少了東西?? 给NiNo解释了
02:51:281 (8,1) - 太遠了，比起其他地方的短條改了
開頭的頓點作的很好，繼續保持 ;w;

Thanks guys :3

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Hazuki

125 posts

Joined September 2013

Hazuki 2017-04-02T06:14:41+00:00

Tenshichan's Rain

~01:40:202 (4) - Seems a bit hard to catch
~02:38:838 (4,5,6,7,1) - Are just a bit annoying to do in a rain imo it would fit better if you did the pattern you did here 02:49:747 (5,6,7,8) -
~02:44:293 (5,6,7,8,1) - ^

That's pretty much the only things I can point out.
Everything else is amazing

Very good diff.
Good luck on ranking!

Eir_DELETED

Eir_DELETED 2017-04-03T23:14:39+00:00

m4m from my queue

Easy

01:56:224 (2) - to be better clearly blanket or not with slider end in term of aesthetic
02:00:997 (3) - missing NC?
02:30:315 (4,1) - clean blanket would look nice

Pata-Mon's Normal

should be nice

Hard

HP 6 is high on hard diff, can you reduce to 5? same as OD
01:16:679 (3,1) - unstacked intentional?
01:04:918 (6,1) - i suggest to be same distances as 01:04:065 (2,3,4,5,6) - for playable. just my preference
01:28:270 (1,3) - and 01:28:611 (2,4) - are asymmetry even though 01:30:997 (1,1) - and 01:31:338 (2,2) - are symmetry. can you try to unify it? and additionally same as NC
03:31:679 (3,1) - missing blanket

iiiii's Insane

00:43:270 (1,2) - too large distance i think. dont need to emphasize 00:43:440 (2) - sound. then can you try to emphasize 00:43:611 (3) - sound which use large distance on 00:43:440 (2,3) -
01:30:315 (6,7) - why you use kick slider? i think it's overmapped
02:36:452 (1,2) - i think they are close a bit

Another

OD6 is low on another diff. can you gain to od7?
00:29:463 (5,1) - should be better to emphasize 00:29:634 (1) - sound using more distance
01:17:361 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - can you try to insert NC each 1 mesure?

E=mc^2

00:05:770 (3,4) - too close blanket
01:30:315 (1) - why you insert NC here? to be better consistency with 01:33:043 (5) - and 01:35:770 (5) -
03:28:696 (3) - slider end is off-screen

nice creativity mapset~
Good luck

_Yiiiii

474 posts

Joined February 2015

_Yiiiii 2017-04-04T10:45:39+00:00

joker-

joker- wrote:
iiiii's Insane
00:43:270 (1,2) - too large distance i think. dont need to emphasize 00:43:440 (2) - sound. then can you try to emphasize 00:43:611 (3) - sound which use large distance on 00:43:440 (2,3) - fixed
01:30:315 (6,7) - why you use kick slider? i think it's overmapped it isn't overmap probably and it plays well
02:36:452 (1,2) - i think they are close a bit fixed

thx~

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283,249,215259,1,0,0:0:0:0:
194,263,215429,1,8,0:0:0:0:
178,279,215770,6,0,P|195:225|117:162,1,150,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
51,194,216281,1,0,0:0:0:0:
162,36,216452,6,0,B|191:65|191:65|322:40,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
388,48,216963,1,0,0:0:0:0:
474,210,217134,1,8,0:0:0:0:
387,189,217304,1,0,0:0:0:0:
306,223,217474,1,0,0:0:0:0:
260,299,217645,1,8,0:0:0:0:
162,182,217815,5,2,0:0:0:0:
167,271,217986,1,0,0:0:0:0:
173,360,218156,1,8,0:0:0:0:
149,353,218497,5,2,0:0:0:0:
91,282,218668,1,0,0:0:0:0:
260,299,218838,1,8,0:0:0:0:
59,368,219009,1,0,0:0:0:0:
58,153,219179,6,0,P|108:189|186:154,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
203,69,219690,1,0,0:0:0:0:
350,115,219861,2,0,L|345:216,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
228,307,220202,1,8,0:0:0:0:
228,307,220372,1,8,0:0:0:0:
398,279,220543,6,0,P|474:296|485:317,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
365,357,220884,2,0,L|314:360,2,37.5
367,189,221224,5,2,0:0:0:0:
304,289,221395,1,8,0:0:0:0:
248,184,221564,1,8,0:0:0:0:
154,316,221735,6,0,L|144:269,6,37.5

melloe

271 posts

Joined February 2013

melloe 2017-04-05T04:58:55+00:00

2017-04-04 21:37 handsome muscle: Hi! want to test some map?
2017-04-04 21:37 melloe: yeah! :D
2017-04-04 21:37 handsome muscle: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/533037
2017-04-04 21:37 handsome muscle: yeah xd thanks
2017-04-04 21:37 handsome muscle: better try another first
2017-04-04 21:38 melloe: sorry dl taking a long time haha
2017-04-04 21:38 handsome muscle: cuz somebody says the top diff is worse than another
2017-04-04 21:38 handsome muscle: nvm
2017-04-04 21:42 melloe: thats really fun
2017-04-04 21:42 handsome muscle: seems easy for u
2017-04-04 21:46 handsome muscle: almost fc lol
2017-04-04 21:46 melloe: almost haha
2017-04-04 21:46 handsome muscle: how is that
2017-04-04 21:46 melloe: i like that one too
2017-04-04 21:46 handsome muscle: another?
2017-04-04 21:46 melloe: i dont thik top diff is worse than another
2017-04-04 21:47 handsome muscle: yeah imo top diff much better
2017-04-04 21:47 handsome muscle: but somebody says kick slider on blue tick to hard to hit
2017-04-04 21:47 melloe: which one?
2017-04-04 21:48 handsome muscle: sth like 02:44:378 (8) -
2017-04-04 21:49 handsome muscle: and 02:55:287 (6) -
2017-04-04 21:49 handsome muscle: a bit uncommon pattern
2017-04-04 21:49 handsome muscle: how do you fill
2017-04-04 21:49 melloe: i like the blue tick sliders
2017-04-04 21:49 melloe: it gives the map an identity
2017-04-04 21:50 handsome muscle: umm...
2017-04-04 21:50 melloe: how do i fill what?
2017-04-04 21:50 handsome muscle: *feel
2017-04-04 21:51 handsome muscle: my english doesn't works these days
2017-04-04 21:51 handsome muscle: lmao
2017-04-04 21:51 melloe: ohh
2017-04-04 21:51 melloe: they feel right with the song
2017-04-04 21:51 melloe: the song gets a lot more complex and high density with the drums
2017-04-04 21:51 melloe: the sliders fit that
2017-04-04 21:52 handsome muscle: yep. and that's why I want to map it. catchy rhythm and complex drums hits
2017-04-04 21:52 melloe: but the distance between the slider and the normal circles are different sometimes, looks a little messy
2017-04-04 21:52 melloe: https://puu.sh/v9MHT.png like that
2017-04-04 21:53 melloe: so sometimes the map looks a little bit messy because distances between objects vary a lot
2017-04-04 21:53 melloe: but the map fits the music and is fun to play :D
2017-04-04 21:54 handsome muscle: umm...maybe i should check these space stuffs overall again
2017-04-04 21:54 handsome muscle: ok, if you want kds post this to the thread. ur words giv me confidence to keep this mapset going on
2017-04-04 21:54 handsome muscle: thanks a lot
2017-04-04 21:55 handsome muscle: :D

Frey

1,205 posts

Joined February 2011

Frey 2017-04-05T13:13:31+00:00

Boku no 姨妈, kimi no 姨妈(德利莎

Easy

02:35:770 (1) - 其实我建议改成单点，歌词和那一声吱吱声，明显是吱吱声要明显一点。所以按照01:27:588 (1) - 的逻辑，可以改成单点。
02:36:452 (1,3) - 这两个滑条实话说看起来并不怎么好看，假如是曲线滑条，随意放没什么问题，但是加了红点的纯粹直线滑条，就尽量保持几何一致。
03:22:474 (4) - 单纯觉得放到x68 y228的话，对新手来说更简单。毕竟缩圈和03:21:452 (3) - 还是有一半遮挡，不好去判断缩圈。

Pata-Mon's Normal
其实我觉得1.0x的sv用的不好，我觉得从02:36:452 - 副歌开始用1.0没问题，之前用小点的sv。
02:35:770 (6) - NC, 这个音有必要拿来突出

Hard
00:45:315 (3) - 这个鱼钩的头和尾靠的太近了，就Hard而言实在是有点影响读图，试着不要让头和尾互相有重叠，
01:27:588 (4) - 虽然按照4个一组的规律没问题，但是这里怎么听都是一种突然转变的感觉，试着用NC的话感觉会不会更好？

Another
02:57:929 (1,2,3) - 最高难度放这个？没问题，但是现在这个难度里放这个，实话说我一点都不觉得好打，打起来很过分因为这里基本上听不出太大的连打音，然而你放的kick slider加2连对比起来又太难了... 我的思路是，02:58:099 (2,3) - 改成一个kick slider，这样的话放哪里都没这么难打

E=mc2
00:27:247 (3) - Ctrl+G，这样更适合接到00:27:588 (4,5,6) - 突然的声音上。
00:33:384 (1,1,1,1) - 我觉得这里容易被搞事，某种程度上来看，这里很多人会看成是一个kickslider加上一组连打...，虽然你用NC提醒了玩家，但是完全的遮挡还是有很大的误导性。创意不错，但是我真的建议，至少能让玩家看得出来这里是一堆kickslider而不是被看出来像是连打...就像00:55:202 (1,1,1,1) - 这样
01:00:315 (4,5) - 最高难度当然这里要Ctrl+g啦
01:06:452 (1) - 实际上Ctrl+g flow会好打一点。
01:40:543 (2) - 你之前的难度，这里拍手也是放的NC

Good luck

LiousPL

231 posts

Joined February 2015

LiousPL 2017-04-05T15:28:50+00:00

General

Change the Combo Colours for CtB, becouse colours are mustn't be blending with the background

Tenshichan's Rain
00:13:611 (1) - Change shape of this slider for a more curved (for better movement)
00:24:179 (1) - Maybe do this slider a little harder? Like - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7745058
00:25:543 (1,2,3,4,5) - This pattern looks too simple~ Add some movement
00:26:736 (6,1) - Add Hdash, becouse there are a characteristic drum sound in this moment
00:29:634 (1) - Ctrl+H and take this to x:476 (for a hdash again)
00:31:679 (5,6) - Delete this Hdash, and make hdash in 00:31:509 (4,5) and 00:32:020 (6,1) on a drum sounds
00:38:497 (3) - Make more curve to left side, for a better start flow from a 1
01:38:838 (4,1) - Ctrl+H for a some more difference in this 1/4 hdash section
01:40:543 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe do this pattern some more intresting? Like add some more curve for sliders?
02:18:384 (5,1,2,3,4) - This isn't looks too simple? lel xD
02:20:088 - 02:20:429 - 02:22:815 - 02:23:156 - 02:25:202 - Maybe add some notes here?
02:28:952 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - This looks bad :/ transfer this for normal triplets

Good job
GL~

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Ellyu 2017-04-07T15:49:01+00:00

@joker : almost everything fixed except some aesthetic things. I think those asymmetry or not are fine for me. Their shapes already emphasize the rhythm well.
And space between 6 and 1 is for the strong beat here.why I nc a lot? because there're few notes at that part, so the hp will decrease very fast if i don't nc them. btw ur mod on hard is actually for hyper lol.

@黑喵，说的也基本改了，除了几个flow的问题，我自己打着感觉没问题，所以不大想改。

Big thanks to modding!!! Looks like a little short but even more useful to some of those long one.

Last edited by Ellyu 2017-04-08T02:30:07+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

yaoyujie0332

26 posts

Joined July 2013

yaoyujie0332 2017-04-07T16:20:42+00:00

萌新前来围观 :3

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Ellyu 2017-04-09T14:48:32+00:00

newyams999's short mod after testplay(he didn't post this but I thought I have to post this to show what I changed)

SPOILER

2017-04-09 12:52 handsome muscle: lol how is that?
2017-04-09 12:53 newyams99: I liked the kiais quite a bit
2017-04-09 12:53 newyams99: and the quiet parts were pretty good too
2017-04-09 12:53 newyams99: lemme just look at it a bit
2017-04-09 12:54 newyams99: rly good song tho

2017-04-09 12:54 newyams99: <3
2017-04-09 12:54 handsome muscle: oh 0.0
2017-04-09 12:54 newyams99: I don't see why you'd need a lite oni tho
2017-04-09 12:55 handsome muscle: it's actually muzu
2017-04-09 12:55 handsome muscle: the old muzu has big gap between it and futsuu
2017-04-09 12:55 handsome muscle: so i make a new one lmao
2017-04-09 12:55 newyams99: oh ok
2017-04-09 12:55 newyams99: tbh you could probably just delete the current muzu if you'd like
2017-04-09 12:56 newyams99: or u could just rename it to a futsuu
2017-04-09 12:56 newyams99: oh but one thing that stuck out
2017-04-09 12:56 newyams99: things like
2017-04-09 12:56 newyams99: 02:17:361 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
2017-04-09 12:56 handsome muscle: yeah I am considering it for a l0ng time, first time to complete a full set
2017-04-09 12:57 newyams99: you don't have short play sections in a break in taiko usually
2017-04-09 12:57 newyams99: that's more an std thing
2017-04-09 12:57 handsome muscle: umm...
2017-04-09 12:58 newyams99: I'd just make it a bit break
2017-04-09 12:59 newyams99: and one more thing
2017-04-09 12:59 handsome muscle: cuz i rarely see long break in taiko map so i did it
2017-04-09 12:59 newyams99: 03:00:997 (202) - has a finisher
2017-04-09 12:59 newyams99: but other places don't really
2017-04-09 12:59 newyams99: sorry
2017-04-09 12:59 newyams99: I mean
2017-04-09 12:59 newyams99: you mostly have finishers at regular points during the kiai
2017-04-09 13:00 newyams99: so places like 03:20:088 (103) - feels somewhat weird cuz there's no finisher
2017-04-09 13:00 newyams99: and sorry I gtg now
2017-04-09 13:00 newyams99: will come back in 30
2017-04-09 13:29 newyams99: hi I'm back

2017-04-09 13:29 handsome muscle: oh XD
2017-04-09 13:29 newyams99: btw
2017-04-09 13:29 newyams99: you commented on my aikagi map
2017-04-09 13:30 newyams99: and I never had a chance to respond x.x
2017-04-09 13:30 handsome muscle: yes but I can't see ur reply ;w;
2017-04-09 13:30 newyams99: yeah
2017-04-09 13:30 newyams99: cuz I didn't xD
2017-04-09 13:30 newyams99: I'll do that rn
2017-04-09 13:30 newyams99: I'd appreciate it if you could mod

2017-04-09 13:31 handsome muscle: oh sure. I love that song
2017-04-09 13:31 handsome muscle: and about the finish
2017-04-09 13:31 newyams99: omg tyvm

2017-04-09 13:31 newyams99: sorry I can't mod your map x.x
2017-04-09 13:32 newyams99: yeah
2017-04-09 13:32 handsome muscle: I make bookmark https://puu.sh/veejh/b7ac0bf10f.png
2017-04-09 13:32 handsome muscle: so I am sure it placed regularly
2017-04-09 13:32 newyams99: yeah
2017-04-09 13:32 newyams99: so you have that pattern
2017-04-09 13:32 newyams99: yes
2017-04-09 13:32 newyams99: so I think it'd be nice if you could have a finisher on 03:20:088 (103) - as well
2017-04-09 13:33 newyams99: rather than have a stream
2017-04-09 13:33 newyams99: same thing at similar places
2017-04-09 13:33 handsome muscle: umm...ok fixed
2017-04-09 13:34 newyams99: if you don't like the idea then you don't need to change it of course
2017-04-09 13:35 handsome muscle: I am not sure. cuz there is obvious beat on the blue tick. maybe I need more tester to tell me
2017-04-09 13:37 handsome muscle: If you want u can post the log the the thread cuz this help me to make my map better xd
2017-04-09 13:38 newyams99: yeah in taiko you sometimes ignore the sound on a blue tick for a finisher
2017-04-09 13:39 newyams99: in the case of this beatmap, you've made a pattern, so I recommed you stay consistent with the finisher pattern, but that's up to you

yaoyujie0332

26 posts

Joined July 2013

yaoyujie0332 2017-04-10T15:18:26+00:00

[Oni]
00:15:997 (11,12,13) - 有点多余，可以考虑删掉
01:16:679 (5,6,7,8,9) - 这个节奏我喜欢

01:17:361 (9) - 这里后面用的散音太散了，建议稍微密集一点，比如在01:19:065 (11) - 处加一个 o，形成1 1 3结构
01:40:713 (4) - 这里有个音，
02:35:003 (65) - 应该有个x
02:35:088 (65) - 有个o
[Inner Oni]
01:17:361 (9) - 同样的散音太散，可以和oni一样增加
01:28:440 (2) - 此处怎加一个ooo三连
02:34:918 (83) - 加个o
02:35:088 (83) - 加个o
03:04:662 (234) - 加个o
03:04:832 (235) - 去掉x
02:58:270 (182) - 这段kiai过于冗长，可以这样：
03:03:469 (225,226) - 去掉
03:08:327 (265) - 这里采用ooxxoox 多余的部分去掉

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