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DJPop
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on อ. 10 พฤษภาคม 2554 at 1:33:49 AM

Artist: ice
Title: Theme of Tomoe Mami
Source: Puella Magi Madoka Magica
Tags: soundtrack bgm Kajiura Yuki mahou shoujo kanpakyin KanaRin
BPM: 136
Filesize: 18741kb
Play Time: 02:52
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4.44 stars, 290 notes)
  2. KPY & Kana's Taiko (4.83 stars, 901 notes)
  3. Normal (1.45 stars, 154 notes)
Download: ice - Theme of Tomoe Mami
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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116th beatmap.


もう何も恐くない ═┻┳︻▄ξ(✿ ❛‿❛)ξ▄︻┻┳═
ξ(✿ >◡❛)ξ▄︻▇▇〓〓 ティロ・フィナーレ
S o r d a
wow
Mercurius
8-)
Shohei Ohtani
Mercurius's avatar so moe >w<~
Muffin Turtle
Great beatmap. On beat, good patterns, cute picture and video ^^ One thing is (mostly me being picky) Try to make the circle colors match with the picture of Mami or the video. It probably annoys me more than most people, but visuals is an important aspect of a beatmap. Well, I'm giving this a star ^^

PS: 116th beatmap? Wowwwwww :O I don't even have the patience to make one.

R.I.P. Mami :[
KanaRin
I like this song>w</
Some suggestion here~

[Normal]

01:16:803 (x) - Add a Note & clap here sounds better?
02:12:833 (1) - Add Finish at the frist of the slider? No hitsounds have a bit boring.
02:19:892 (1) - ^
02:26:950 (1) - ^

Perfect.

[Hard]

- Snapping x1!
00:39:251 (3) - Add Finish at the first of the slider? Sounds better.
00:42:781 (3) - ^
00:46:310 (3) - ^
01:25:186 (3) - ^
01:28:715 (3) - ^
01:32:245 (3) - ^
02:12:833 (1) - ^
02:19:892 (1) - ^
02:26:950 (1) - ^

Finish just my suggestion..=w= You can ignore it if you don't like it.

Like this map!
Star>w</
Magical Pokie
[Normal]
00:48:736- this note too early
but star
Zlew
No star because Madoka.
Topic Starter
DJPop

KanaRin wrote:

[Normal]
01:16:803 (x) - Add a Note & clap here sounds better?
Added.
02:12:833 (1) - Add Finish at the frist of the slider? No hitsounds have a bit boring.
No cymbals there.
02:19:892 (1) - ^
No cymbals there.
02:26:950 (1) - ^
No cymbals there.

[Hard]
- Snapping x1!
Fixed.
00:39:251 (3) - Add Finish at the first of the slider? Sounds better.
No cymbals there.
00:42:781 (3) - ^
No cymbals there.
00:46:310 (3) - ^
No cymbals there.
01:25:186 (3) - ^
No cymbals there.
01:28:715 (3) - ^
No cymbals there.
01:32:245 (3) - ^
No cymbals there.
02:12:833 (1) - ^
No cymbals there.
02:19:892 (1) - ^
No cymbals there.
02:26:950 (1) - ^
No cymbals there.

Magical Pokie wrote:

[Normal]
00:48:736- this note too early
Chorus synced.
net45291
lol :)
IceBeam
[Normal]
00:28:663 (1) - Eh,well,I'm mosty agree that there's enough time to read,but still..yes,beginners may click earlier and it looks kinda weird,anyway.The only thing I could suggest,if you don't want to remap this pattern in a better way, is to flip it horizontally,as you used some little jumps before,it won't cause much probs,I think.

00:48:736 (5) - It's out of rhytm,really D: Move it to 00:48:957.
01:34:009 (5) - ^ Continue to 01:34:891.
01:48:127 (1) - I'd add finish.
01:53:421 (2) - Too close to previous object.
01:55:186 (1) - ^
01:56:951 (2) - ^

Now I have a feeling that patterns are more important for you then rhytm,rules and etc.
But really,it's all about your creativity.I agree that sometimes there isn't much choice to make another patterns,but it doesn't mean that you must break all rules to follow symmetria and make cute sliders.That's why I hope you will fix spacing/rhytm lacks I've pointed above.

And also,just my opinion about finishes and hitsounds overall.I'm mostly agree with KanaRin's suggestions,in the moments like 02:19:891 you really should add finish,not because there's a cymbal or anything,just because it sounds better,much better with it.Without finishes,such repetitive music sounds a bit boring and monotonous.

[Hard]
02:37:649 (4) - Remove this note,please,it's completely out.
02:52:375 (3,4) - New combo due to changed spacing?

Sorry for being too much nazi,star.
Red_old
ξ( >◡・)▄︻┻┳═一 -
Sure
[Hard]
Why do you use mute slidertick? Also slidertick rate 2 really fits at music IMO. Try to use this file.
Download: soft-slidertick.rar
Yeah, there are high-hats in every red tick, except just one section(02:47:271 (5)).
You need to mute some of ticks. You can use Normal C1 for muting slidertick. Don't be lazy! >w<


[Normal]
Same opinion as Hard


By the way, I'd like to add some whistles in the map.. It's so flat.
Others are fine to me.

Of course star~
Topic Starter
DJPop

IceBeam wrote:

[Normal]
00:28:663 (1) - Eh,well,I'm mosty agree that there's enough time to read,but still..yes,beginners may click earlier and it looks kinda weird,anyway.The only thing I could suggest,if you don't want to remap this pattern in a better way, is to flip it horizontally,as you used some little jumps before,it won't cause much probs,I think.
Fixed.

00:48:736 (5) - It's out of rhytm,really D: Move it to 00:48:957.
Extended repeat slider instead.
01:34:009 (5) - ^ Continue to 01:34:891.
Extended repeat slider instead.
01:48:127 (1) - I'd add finish.
X
01:53:421 (2) - Too close to previous object.
Fixed.
01:55:186 (1) - ^
Fixed.
01:56:951 (2) - ^
Fixed.

Now I have a feeling that patterns are more important for you then rhytm,rules and etc.
But really,it's all about your creativity.I agree that sometimes there isn't much choice to make another patterns,but it doesn't mean that you must break all rules to follow symmetria and make cute sliders.That's why I hope you will fix spacing/rhytm lacks I've pointed above.
This is an easy mapset, there is not much choice to make the map looks nice.
I'll focus on other things more than symmetry patterns if I make very hard maps.


And also,just my opinion about finishes and hitsounds overall.I'm mostly agree with KanaRin's suggestions,in the moments like 02:19:891 you really should add finish,not because there's a cymbal or anything,just because it sounds better,much better with it.Without finishes,such repetitive music sounds a bit boring and monotonous.
People have different tastes anyway. For me, I don't mind hitwhistles or hitclaps, but I don't like hitfinishes on the other places that doesn't heard in the song. They usually sounds weird (this map too).

[Hard]
02:37:649 (4) - Remove this note,please,it's completely out.
Flute sound there, easily noticeable.
02:52:375 (3,4) - New combo due to changed spacing?
Play fine.
Kurosanyan
[General]
  1. From the second offset (00:53:369 - ) to the end of the song, your offset seems 10~15ms late. Try to add 10~20ms on all offsets except the first one.
  2. Try to find a good comboburst? orz orz orz I'm sure this anime have so much artworks already so you should be abble to find a good one of Mami to do it.
  3. Try to find some cool guest diff? :3
[Normal]
  1. Hp Drain and Overall Difficulty -1 maybe?
  2. 00:14:104 (4,5,6,1) - Hum there's more spacing on this part, fix it?Especially at 00:15:427 (6,1) -
    00:18:075 (1,2,3,4,5) - select this pattern and go some grid down to fix this? :3
  3. 00:24:693 (4,5,6) - Well same here for the spacing since it's a copy paste.
  4. 00:28:663 (1,2,3,4) - Here I think the spacing is a bit low.
  5. 00:48:736 (5) - A bit hard to hit, why don't you make a slider like on [Hard]?
  6. 01:00:039 (5,1) - Fix the spacing? A bit to high. :( (but try to not put (1) over the slider (3) :3 )
  7. 01:10:627 (5,1) - Same here since it's a copy paste
  8. 01:21:656 (1,2,3) - Reduce a bit the spacing for those 3 sliders?
  9. 01:37:539 (2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Uh...Reduce the spacing in this part? Especially 01:42:833 (4,5) - and 01:46:803 (8,9) -
  10. 01:51:656 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - Try to make a more regular spacing on this part?
  11. 01:56:951 (2,1) - Reduce spacing?
  12. 02:01:362 (3,1) - ^
  13. 02:21:656 (4) - Tiny stack error.
  14. 02:30:480 (1,2) - Make a shape for those slider so you can reduce the spacing between them?
  15. 02:28:715 (4) - Same here since it's copy paste
  16. 02:32:245 (2,1) - Reduce spacing?
  17. 02:37:539 (1,2,3,4) - ^
  18. 02:44:598 (1,2) - ^ (The spacing is x1,18 on this part without the bpm change :3)
  19. 02:52:375 (1,2,1) - Well I don't think this is a good thing for the easier diff but I won't ask you to change it.
[Hard]
  • Nothing to say, great map <3
This music is <33333 And your map is pretty cool, fits to the music. Have a star :3

By the way sorry if my mod on the normal looks nazi orz
Topic Starter
DJPop

ykcarrot wrote:

Why do you use mute slidertick? Also slidertick rate 2 really fits at music IMO. Try to use this file.
Yeah, there are high-hats in every red tick, except just one section(02:47:271 (5)).
You need to mute some of ticks. You can use Normal C1 for muting slidertick. Don't be lazy! >w<
Thanks for the idea :)

By the way, I'd like to add some whistles in the map.. It's so flat.
Added in few parts.


Kurosanyan wrote:

[General]
  1. From the second offset (00:53:369 - ) to the end of the song, your offset seems 10~15ms late. Try to add 10~20ms on all offsets except the first one.
    Add 10~20ms? Sounds too late for me.
  2. Try to find a good comboburst? orz orz orz I'm sure this anime have so much artworks already so you should be abble to find a good one of Mami to do it.
    Added.
  3. Try to find some cool guest diff? :3
    Sorry, I don't take osu! guest diff for this song :(
[Normal]
  1. Hp Drain and Overall Difficulty -1 maybe?
    Fixed.
  2. 00:14:104 (4,5,6,1) - Hum there's more spacing on this part, fix it?
    Distance snap checked and they're fine.
    Especially at 00:15:427 (6,1) - 00:18:075 (1,2,3,4,5) - select this pattern and go some grid down to fix this? :3
    Fixed.
  3. 00:24:693 (4,5,6) - Well same here for the spacing since it's a copy paste.
    I think they're fine.
  4. 00:28:663 (1,2,3,4) - Here I think the spacing is a bit low.
    Spacing is not necessary to be equaled in the whole map. Just pay attention how playable are they.
  5. 00:48:736 (5) - A bit hard to hit, why don't you make a slider like on [Hard]?
    Fixed.
  6. 01:00:039 (5,1) - Fix the spacing? A bit to high. :( (but try to not put (1) over the slider (3) :3 )
    Fixed.
  7. 01:10:627 (5,1) - Same here since it's a copy paste
    Fixed.
  8. 01:21:656 (1,2,3) - Reduce a bit the spacing for those 3 sliders?
    Fixed.
  9. 01:37:539 (2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Uh...Reduce the spacing in this part? Especially 01:42:833 (4,5) - and 01:46:803 (8,9) -
    X
  10. 01:51:656 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - Try to make a more regular spacing on this part?
    X
  11. 01:56:951 (2,1) - Reduce spacing?
    X
  12. 02:01:362 (3,1) - ^
    X
  13. 02:21:656 (4) - Tiny stack error.
    Fixed.
  14. 02:30:480 (1,2) - Make a shape for those slider so you can reduce the spacing between them?
    X
  15. 02:28:715 (4) - Same here since it's copy paste
    Fixed.
  16. 02:32:245 (2,1) - Reduce spacing?
    X
  17. 02:37:539 (1,2,3,4) - ^
    X
  18. 02:44:598 (1,2) - ^ (The spacing is x1,18 on this part without the bpm change :3)
    Fixed.
  19. 02:52:375 (1,2,1) - Well I don't think this is a good thing for the easier diff but I won't ask you to change it.
    Fixed. :P
Tenshi-nyan
HeyHey,

Nice work with the hitsounds...

Hard
I almost laughed when I saw GridLevel 1 :<

00:16:751 (4) - reduce the volume for this? the whistles feel a lil' bit too loud here
00:20:722 (5,6) - ^
01:02:686 (5,1,2) - ^
01:06:656 (7,8) - ^
01:35:333 (7,8,1) - ^
02:40:627 (1,2,3) - ^


00:48:736 (4) - start this at 00:48:516 - extend it to 00:49:398 - , add a clap to start and end
01:01:362 (4,5) - these 2 slider are kinda ugly... use less sliderpoints for those
02:37:318 (1,2,3,4,5) - make it like this, the stream feels really weird otherwise. http://puu.sh/1R7x
02:42:612 (1,2,3) - remove whistles from 1 and 2

Normal
00:38:810 - add note + clap -- it's just asking to be there.

Pretty nice map ^^
Can't really think of anything good for this... is good to go ranked.
AngelHoney
all suggestions o.o;

Hard

00:48:736 (4) - change rhythm like this ? http://puu.sh/1R89
00:53:369 - maybe BPM 132 ?
00:57:403 - offset +20ms(57423) ?
01:00:039 - offset +10ms(60039) ?
01:38:862 (6) - return+1 ?
02:44:598 - offset 164648ms , bpm 67 ?

:) :) :)
Snowy Dream
DJPop ;)
Topic Starter
DJPop

Tenshi-nyan wrote:

Hard
00:16:751 (4) - reduce the volume for this? the whistles feel a lil' bit too loud here
00:20:722 (5,6) - ^
01:02:686 (5,1,2) - ^
01:06:656 (7,8) - ^
01:35:333 (7,8,1) - ^
02:40:627 (1,2,3) - ^
Reduced and replaced the hitsound file.

00:48:736 (4) - start this at 00:48:516 - extend it to 00:49:398 - , add a clap to start and end
Changed in another way.
01:01:362 (4,5) - these 2 slider are kinda ugly... use less sliderpoints for those
Cannot reduce slider tick rate any more.
02:37:318 (1,2,3,4,5) - make it like this, the stream feels really weird otherwise. http://puu.sh/1R7x
ok ok >.< since most people point this out.
02:42:612 (1,2,3) - remove whistles from 1 and 2
Removed.

Normal
00:38:810 - add note + clap -- it's just asking to be there.
Added.

AngelHoney wrote:

Hard
00:48:736 (4) - change rhythm like this ? http://puu.sh/1R89
Changed in another way.
00:53:369 - maybe BPM 132 ?
133 sounds better.
00:57:403 - offset +20ms(57423) ?
Fixed.
01:00:039 - offset +10ms(60039) ?
Fixed.
01:38:862 (6) - return+1 ?
X
02:44:598 - offset 164648ms , bpm 67 ?
Fixed.
Sumisola
Here is the modding~

[Normal]

Nice map, especially the hitsound.I like it very much!

01:17:686 - (4) - new combo
02:08:862 - (4) - new combo
02:09:744 - (1) - delete new combo
02:15:921 - (4) - new combo
02:16:803 - (1) - delete new combo
02:46:375 - (3,4,5) - arranging them in a line or a triangle may be better???

[Hard]

00:03:957 - add a note
00:04:839 - ^
00:05:722 - ^
00:06:163 - ^
00:06:604 - ^
00:07:045 - ^
00:21:383 (6) - move this note to the next white line or add a note on the next white line
00:34:398 (6) - how about change it into a 1/1 return slider?
00:48:516 - how about add a note here?
01:20:333 (8) - change it to a 1/2 return slider?
01:24:303 (4) - ^
01:58:053 (6) - spacing?or just in propose?
02:11:509 (8) - change it to 3 single circle?
02:25:627 (8) - ^

A pretty fantastic map!!!~~~
I like your song!!Like your video~ :) :)
Topic Starter
DJPop

Sumisola wrote:

[Normal]
01:17:686 - (4) - new combo
Fixed.
02:08:862 - (4) - new combo
Fixed.
02:09:744 - (1) - delete new combo
Fixed.
02:15:921 - (4) - new combo
X
02:16:803 - (1) - delete new combo
X
02:46:375 - (3,4,5) - arranging them in a line or a triangle may be better???
Fixed.


[Hard]
00:03:957 - add a note
00:04:839 - ^
00:05:722 - ^
00:06:163 - ^
00:06:604 - ^
00:07:045 - ^
I don't map before 00:07:486

00:21:383 (6) - move this note to the next white line or add a note on the next white line
X
00:34:398 (6) - how about change it into a 1/1 return slider?
X
00:48:516 - how about add a note here?
Fixed.
01:20:333 (8) - change it to a 1/2 return slider?
X
01:24:303 (4) - ^
X
01:58:053 (6) - spacing? or just in propose?
Proposed
02:11:509 (8) - change it to 3 single circle?
X
02:25:627 (8) - ^
X
lzy
star for senpai
artpiggo
good mapping as ever


star & pink one for you <3
Magical Pokie
lol
KanaRin
Done.
It's Taiko Oni 7+ ~ 8.

Anyway , can you add the Taiko BG & Name tag for our diff? =w=
Seems like you know it Haha.

Start ~ 01:39:303 - Kanpakyin
01:41:068 ~ End - KanaRin

=w=/

Download: ice - Theme of Tomoe Mami (DJPop) [KPY & Kana's Taiko].osu
kanpakyin
Star
Kurai
Ok, nothing wrong in your map :)
But maybe HP drain rate +1 in Hard. In my opinion it will be nicer.
Good luck~
Lance
( ´∀`)┌★
The creator has said if he were to do a sequel to Madoka he would want to make it a SoL.

...I'd watch it.
DJNightmare
Modded in IRC, Not much to mod thought O_O
Starred for awesomeness! althought i dunno what song and anime is this O_O And i wont understand lol
HeatKai
mod4mod :D

modding using distance snap ;)

[normal]
00:09:251 (3) - spacing
00:14:986 (5) - ^
00:19:840 (3) - ^
00:25:575 (5) - ^
00:28:663 (1) - I wonder if this okay :\ because the spacing is so bad but its shape nice with other sliders.
01:07:990 (1) - spacing
01:15:931 (2) - end of the slider put finish :)
01:17:696 (4) - spacing
01:47:696 (9) - new combo
01:48:137 (1) - remove new combo
02:52:830 (1) - finish :)

[hard]
00:13:222 (4) - new combo
00:21:383 (6) - remove whistle
00:23:810 (5) - add whistle
00:30:207 (5) - remove whistle , add finish
00:31:751 (1) - remove clap , add whistle :3
01:34:681 (6) - at the starting remove whistle , add clap
02:18:137 (7) - new combo
02:52:719 (1) - finish :)

[KPY & Kana taiko]
lol , they two always make taiko diff for you :D
but still nice :D

Hp drain rate , circle size , approach rate , Overall difficulty = 5

the Kanpakyin name , please use darker colour.
because cannot see his name clearly :\
Kanarin name is clear.
Kanpakyin not clear :P

all nice :D
Topic Starter
DJPop

HeatKai wrote:

[normal]
00:09:251 (3) - spacing
X
00:14:986 (5) - ^
X
00:19:840 (3) - ^
X
00:25:575 (5) - ^
X
00:28:663 (1) - I wonder if this okay :\ because the spacing is so bad but its shape nice with other sliders.
It's OK
01:07:990 (1) - spacing
X
01:15:931 (2) - end of the slider put finish :)
X
01:17:696 (4) - spacing
X
01:47:696 (9) - new combo
Fixed.
01:48:137 (1) - remove new combo
Fixed.
02:52:830 (1) - finish :)
X

[hard]
00:13:222 (4) - new combo
Added.
00:21:383 (6) - remove whistle
X
00:23:810 (5) - add whistle
X
00:30:207 (5) - remove whistle , add finish
X
00:31:751 (1) - remove clap , add whistle :3
X
01:34:681 (6) - at the starting remove whistle , add clap
X
02:18:137 (7) - new combo
X
02:52:719 (1) - finish :)
X

the Kanpakyin name , please use darker colour.
because cannot see his name clearly :\
Kanarin name is clear.
Kanpakyin not clear :P
Fixed.
banvi
:)
Kotone
www
cacipan
:)
Mok
Nice <3 Mami <333

[General]
OMG THE SPINNER IS REALLY MADE ME LAUGH A LOT xD

[Normal]
00:24:692 (4,5) - Aren't cuter like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/85959

[Hard]
Awesome.

I can't mod taiko, sorry ç_ç

Edit: I forgot to say that's a mod4mod, as we discussed via pm.
Topic Starter
DJPop

Mok wrote:

[Normal]
00:24:692 (4,5) - Aren't cuter like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/85959
Fixed.
Pizzicato
:D
Kokizi
star~
Thite
:)
Krisom
General-
· The 20% volume sections at the end of the song might be a tad to soft. Make it 30% or something?
· 01:04:019 - Add a red timing section here just to fix the metronome.

Hard-
Nothing to poke at

Normal-
01:58:725 (1,2) - This spacing is a tad too close imo.

Taiko-
Well, the SB pulsations like 00:53:369, 01:41:068 and 01:14:597 are kinda extreme fur the song, I mean, the maximum size and the time on the screen is too much imo. That's up to you though.
00:53:369 - Check kanpy's name, it has two layers from here and up to 01:14:597, and one is bigger than the other (making the SB look kinda awkward)
01:48:127 - Check Kana's name here and up to 02:05:774, it has two layers here too, one is bigger and also has a different fading.

I love what you did with the sliderticks, let me know when you're done.
Kaona
☆彡
rrtyui
DJPopppppppppp>w<
Topic Starter
DJPop

Krisom wrote:

General-
· The 20% volume sections at the end of the song might be a tad to soft. Make it 30% or something?
Fixed.
· 01:04:019 - Add a red timing section here just to fix the metronome.
Added.

Normal-
01:58:725 (1,2) - This spacing is a tad too close imo.
Fixed.

Taiko-
Well, the SB pulsations like 00:53:369, 01:41:068 and 01:14:597 are kinda extreme fur the song, I mean, the maximum size and the time on the screen is too much imo. That's up to you though.
Fixed.
00:53:369 - Check kanpy's name, it has two layers from here and up to 01:14:597, and one is bigger than the other (making the SB look kinda awkward)
Fixed.
01:48:127 - Check Kana's name here and up to 02:05:774, it has two layers here too, one is bigger and also has a different fading.
Fixed.
Osu Tatakae Ouendan
Star'd
-myun-
star 8-)
Ksaice
nice~
Krisom
Rechecked, everything seems nice and tidy.
It's dangerous to go alone, so take this (ノ゚ω゚)ノ
Rucker
:D
Andrea
Some IRC Mod.

- Reduced the Approach Rate by 1 tick on Normal.
- Centered the Difficulty Settings on Taiko difficulty.
- Changed the Background Colour on Taiko difficulty from Yellow to Black.

Ranked~
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