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Numbers 596108
Former osu!taiko Champion: 2011
773 posts
Joined November 2009
Numbers 596108
Mod Request from wcx19911123(From 596108's Mod Queue)

Before mod please read the meaning represented by the color

Color Help

Red -> Recommended
Orange -> Must to Fixed
Green -> Currect
Blue -> Don't fixed it...
Purple -> If you fixed the one,please fixed the pattern

Taiko

Timing :

SPOILER
00:00:918 254.00 BPM - N - -> OK
00:04:697 0.75x - N - -> OK
00:12:020 1.0x - N - -> OK
00:34:697 254.00 BPM - N - -> OK
00:42:020 254.00 BPM - N - -> OK
01:08:477 1.0x - K - -> OK
01:23:595 1.0x - N - -> OK
01:44:382 1.0x - K - -> OK
01:59:500 1.0x - N - -> OK
02:14:618 1.0x - K - -> OK
02:25:957 1.0x - N - -> OK
02:54:303 0.75x - N - -> OK
03:01:626 1.0x - N - -> OK
03:01:862 1.0x - K - -> OK
03:16:980 1.0x - N - -> OK
03:34:933 2.0x - N - -> Remove
03:35:760 1.0x - N - -> Remove

Notes :

00:58:437 (3,1) -
01:17:807 (2) - Remove
01:59:500 (1) -
02:22:177 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
02:25:957 (1,1,1,2,1,1) -
02:27:847 (1,1,1,2,1,1) -

Others :

Song Difficulty -
HP Drain Rate - 5 -> 6~8
Circle Size - 5 -> Max
Approach Rate - 5 -> Max
Overall Difficulty - 5 -> 3~4

Total Result
Song favorite degree : 5 / 10
Note Pattern : 49 / 70
Other wrong : 8 / 10
Timing wrong : 10 / 10

Score : 72 / 100

Notes are a lot wrong must to fix, please fix it ;)
good luck~Ozzy :3
Jarby
2,963 posts
Joined August 2008
Jarby
Alright, just a quick clarification: Most of the melody here should be snapped to 1/2, but the rest relies on the swing feel a lot, so it has to be snapped to 1/3. I'm going to just point out what is necessary though since you were clearly mapping to the vocals anyway. I'm fairly sure it's acceptable to keep it as is outside of the few positions I mentioned.

I would also extend the third kiai time section up until 02:29:736.

Easy:

01:58:437 (1) - Snap to the previous 1/3 tick and adjust the kiai end to that.

Normal:

01:58:437 (1) - Snap to the previous 1/3 tick and adjust the kiai end to that.

Ozzy's Taiko:

Can't mod Taiko very well, but nothing stood out as wrong to me.

Hard:

00:08:004 (3) - This and all subsequent sliders with velocity changes are unreadable and irritating to follow because the slider has no ticks as a result of the tick rate being set to 0.5. It's generally best to keep tick rate at 1 or higher, so just keep it at 1.
00:21:469 (7) - It would be best just to stack this under 5. It looks very odd with that overlap and it's confusing. Alternatively, make it more like how it's done at 01:09:657 (7,9).
01:23:122 (9) - Snap to previous 1/3 tick and adjust the kiai end to that. Consider placing a break after it.
01:31:390 (5,7) - I think it would make more sense to arrange the pattern like this.
01:58:437 (1) - Snap to the previous 1/3 tick and adjust the kiai end to that.
02:35:878 (8,1,2) - This shift in spacing is really confusing and unnecessary. Nothing in the song warranted such a heavy shift in style.

Carnival0108:

01:22:532 (1) - Snap to next 1/3 tick and adjust the kiai end to that.
01:58:437 (1) - Snap to next 1/3 tick and adjust the kiai end to that.
03:31:153 (1) - It would make more sense to end this 1/1 earlier so it lands on the cymbal.
H A D E S_old
53 posts
Joined February 2010
H A D E S_old
osu的难度做得真好 = =。 taiko看不来 star~
MisakaMikoto
383 posts
Joined July 2010
MisakaMikoto
盛宴
OzzyOzrock
5,185 posts
Joined August 2010
OzzyOzrock

Numbers 596108 wrote:

SPOILER
00:00:918 254.00 BPM - N - -> OK
00:04:697 0.75x - N - -> OK
00:12:020 1.0x - N - -> OK
00:34:697 254.00 BPM - N - -> OK
00:42:020 254.00 BPM - N - -> OK
01:08:477 1.0x - K - -> OK
01:23:595 1.0x - N - -> OK
01:44:382 1.0x - K - -> OK
01:59:500 1.0x - N - -> OK
02:14:618 1.0x - K - -> OK
02:25:957 1.0x - N - -> OK
02:54:303 0.75x - N - -> OK
03:01:626 1.0x - N - -> OK
03:01:862 1.0x - K - -> OK
03:16:980 1.0x - N - -> OK
03:34:933 2.0x - N - -> Remove
03:35:760 1.0x - N - -> Remove keeping above ><[/color]

Notes :

00:58:437 (3,1) - ok
01:17:807 (2) - Remove ok
01:59:500 (1) - nah, slow part starts there, wouldn't fit
02:22:177 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - [/color] ?? it is...
02:25:957 (1,1,1,2,1,1) - already is?
02:27:847 (1,1,1,2,1,1) - [/color] also is...

Others :

Notes are a lot wrong must to fix, please fix it ;)
good luck~Ozzy :3
:3

Download: Megpoid GUMI - Carnival (wcx19911123) [Ozzy's Taiko].osu
Numbers 596108
Former osu!taiko Champion: 2011
773 posts
Joined November 2009
Numbers 596108

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Numbers 596108 wrote:

SPOILER
00:00:918 254.00 BPM - N - -> OK
00:04:697 0.75x - N - -> OK
00:12:020 1.0x - N - -> OK
00:34:697 254.00 BPM - N - -> OK
00:42:020 254.00 BPM - N - -> OK
01:08:477 1.0x - K - -> OK
01:23:595 1.0x - N - -> OK
01:44:382 1.0x - K - -> OK
01:59:500 1.0x - N - -> OK
02:14:618 1.0x - K - -> OK
02:25:957 1.0x - N - -> OK
02:54:303 0.75x - N - -> OK
03:01:626 1.0x - N - -> OK
03:01:862 1.0x - K - -> OK
03:16:980 1.0x - N - -> OK
03:34:933 2.0x - N - -> Remove that won't to add spinner count
03:35:760 1.0x - N - -> Remove keeping above ><[/color]

Notes :

00:58:437 (3,1) - ok
01:17:807 (2) - Remove ok
01:59:500 (1) - nah, slow part starts there, wouldn't fit
02:22:177 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - [/color] ?? it is...
02:25:957 (1,1,1,2,1,1) - already is?
02:27:847 (1,1,1,2,1,1) - [/color] also is...

It is small , not Big Don and Katsu D:

Others :

Notes are a lot wrong must to fix, please fix it ;)
good luck~Ozzy :3
:3

[attachment=0:ab283]Megpoid GUMI - Carnival (wcx19911123) [Ozzy's Taiko].osu[/attachment:ab283]
MikiSayaka_old
4 posts
Joined April 2011
MikiSayaka_old
up up
OzzyOzrock
5,185 posts
Joined August 2010
OzzyOzrock

Numbers 596108 wrote:

OzzyOzrock wrote:

03:34:933 2.0x - N - -> Remove that won't to add spinner count uhh what? ;_;
03:35:760 1.0x - N - -> Remove keeping above ><[/color][/spoilerbox]


It is small , not Big Don and Katsu D: Oh! Doesn't fit that well :<
:3
Yusu Aoi
214 posts
Joined October 2009
Yusu Aoi
Hi! ^^
I think that it would go for approval, becuz of the Timing, but that's just my thoughts ;) I moded this song, and weren't able to find anything^^ so here's Your star!:))

PS: Don't give me kudosu^^
- Rche -
382 posts
Joined May 2010
- Rche -
我"又"來送星了.
而且難得抓到東西了.

[Hard]
話說這能算insane吧...也是慣例了.
00:55:602 (2) - 沒hitsound有點怪...?
01:23:594 到 01:25:248 該加break吧.
(其實是我這渣player被這個空檔kill了. X_X)
01:40:602 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 這串啊...
02:35:878 (8,1) - 算你狠.
02:39:894 (x) - 該加note嗎...?
有點地方我跟不上hitsound所以連抓錯處的機會也沒有了.

其他diff都抓不出東西來了.
+pink star.
MoodyRPG
2,754 posts
Joined August 2010
MoodyRPG
[Easy]

01:57:610 (1) - Add finish
03:19:815 (1) - Line up with (1)?

[Normal]

01:22:649 (6) - Add finish in the end of the slider
01:57:610 (1) - Add finish

[Hard]

Fine

Star~
Starrodkirby86
osu! Alumni
3,739 posts
Here since the beginning
Starrodkirby86
Maan, total carnival here.

[All]:
02:25:957 (x) - I thought it felt random for the kiai to end here. Maybe extend it to 02:29:736 ? That way, you'll still have those crazy rock guitar beats within the kiai, yeah~?

[Ozzy's Taiko]:
Oh god, look at that ending. x_x
If not many Taiko'ers have looked at this difficulty yet, have them take a go at one helluva carnival.

[Hard]:
02:35:878 (8,1) - Hmm... All right, I do realize the anti-jump and the design here... But to me, it doesn't quite feel right. Maybe it's the fact that this is the only anti-jump in the whole song and it sorts gets someone by surprise. Does it work better as a stack, maybe? Uhh, perhaps you can think about it when you look at it and tell me what your decision is. I can see what you were going for if you refuse to change it.

To maintain consistency with the other "otetsu" maps ranked in osu!, let's put otetsu in tags and have "Vocaloid" in the source instead. ;)

As I said to you before, awesome map! This hardly seems like a newbie's map at all, with the advanced usage of the editor's stuff. Good for you.

This map makes a sudden jump in difficulty from Normal to Hard mode. The maximum score can show this. While this isn't bad in itself, in the future, making conscious efforts to satisfy all types of player skills will make you a better mapper and have a more awesome beatmap in the end. :D

This will come more with experience, maybe some modding, or playing difficulties that are around that range.

A special kudos to val0108 here. Nice difficulty you got there. Pretty insane and hectic, but somehow whenever I manage to test-play it one way or another things just go smoothly. It's like I'm taken on a tense adventure that guides me through to the end of the song. I feel there might be something wrong within since there's so much, but I don't really think there is.
wcx19911123
3,862 posts
Joined June 2010
Topic Starter
wcx19911123
updated
fixed some. especially in [Hard] : 02:35:878 (8,1) - I make them much more readble than before
hope everything is ready 0.0
and thanks you all > <
loveFantasy
526 posts
Joined August 2008
loveFantasy
沒見到什麼問題, 真要說的話, 我不太喜歡 [Hard] 00:30:209 (1,2) - 這種flow, 折返兩次的slider還是覺得最後一次過去的方向往下個note自然些

star
YaMaO04
214 posts
Joined June 2010
YaMaO04
:)
swish
1,194 posts
Joined February 2009
swish
thanks mod request~

All Suggestion

[General]
fine


[Easy]
AR+1?
  1. 03:30:208 (4) - new combo?
[Normal]
  1. 01:00:917 (6) - remove it to other place?
[Hard]
  1. 03:06:350 (4) - 1grid left [Nazi]
  2. 03:07:413 (2,3) - ^
[Carnival0108]
  1. 03:31:153 (1) - end to here? 03:31:862 -
254bpm... :o star~
ThePal
91 posts
Joined December 2009
ThePal
Hello there! Sorry for the late mod, motivation and time ran from me. :?

Red: Major issue, you should properly change this.
Green: Minor issue.
Gray: Just a suggestion, no need to change here if you think something else.
Black: Other.

[General]
You have a very repetitive mapping style which I find boring to play for a while. Maybe try some new techniques in your future maps?

[Easy]
Very nice Easy, no problems here. :)

[Normal]
Amazing again, only suggestions.
I find it kind of dull, it needs more action imo.

01:47:453 Insert circle here?
03:03:043 ^
03:14:264 ^
03:17:689 ^
03:20:051 ^
03:27:610 ^

[Hard]
Nice map, but very hard for a Hard diff. :?

00:42:020 (1,2,3) Hidden behind eachother in a corner isn't good. I missed here several times.
02:13:909 - 02:29:736 Too hard! Rename to Insane it you want to keep this.
02:35:405 (7,8,1,2) Spacing!! Impossible to read!

[Carnival0108]
I'm not gonna touch THAT! xD Let the experts mod that!

Very nice, this of course deserves a star! :)
mi sa
59 posts
Joined January 2011
mi sa
gumi的《嘉年华》挺不错，延续了她一贯的风格。矛盾的心理，分裂的人格，让我又想到《十面相》（不要谈套娃...）

mod吐槽一下
easy没什么好说的，normal谈点自己的看法:
第一、二、四段kiai我感觉可以略加一点难度。
02:44:854 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这一段可以换一个音效，比如音量调低，段末戛然而止的音效还有改善的空间。
03:24:539 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 这一段的circle可以再无序一些，凸显出一种虚无感。

hard我还是觉得02:44:854这一段应该有变化，降低sv比较好。
insane我非常喜欢，那种slider的感觉和《speed》这首歌很像。
Jarby
2,963 posts
Joined August 2008
Jarby
Apparently you missed my last mod post as many errors brought up in it still exist in the map today. The lines regarding 1/3 snap and tick rates in particular are things that I strongly believe are errors. I don't want to sound like I'm making threats here, but it really is definitely the sort of thing I would bring up even on a bubbled map. I'm sorry, but I can't do anything unless changes are made. If you do decide to go through with this, please contact me again so I can check this map once more.
val0108
1,430 posts
Joined January 2010
val0108
Let's go.

Download: Megpoid GUMI - Carnival (wcx19911123) [Carnival0108].osu
wcx19911123
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Topic Starter
wcx19911123
updated 0.0
Jarby
2,963 posts
Joined August 2008
Jarby
All clear now. I'm confident.
Snowy Dream
2,195 posts
Joined September 2009
Snowy Dream
OK , everything seems nice
Nuked!
Nymph
osu! Alumni
3,243 posts
Joined December 2010
Nymph
...........what? 254 BPM? holy crap~
Nuked by Snowy Dream~ good job! :)
_Kiva
981 posts
Joined January 2010
_Kiva
No,
just no ,
Nuked
Nixnez
295 posts
Joined April 2010
Nixnez
给我这么多星星的图叫我怎么mod啊~~看都已经泡泡了 XD

以下就看看下，都是不太重要的意见，当然也不需要kudosu吧。

[Hard]
- 00:42:020 (1,2,3) - I kinda like to spread this out. Just me.

[Carnival0108]
- 00:56:075 (8) + 02:40:012 (8) - AIMod pointed this out, most probably caused by that particular middle red slider point. Not that it affects playability or anything.

So yea, no need to pop your bubble. Good luck ranking~
deepsea
osu! Alumni
855 posts
Joined April 2008
deepsea
Wow this is cool.

Easy

00:12:256 (1) - I don't like stack in the beginning, you know this is easy, newhands aren't that good.

Also the gap between Normal and Hard is kinda big imo(2mil and 14 mil, also difficulty), I would like a diff between those. I am not going to pop with above reason though. Just decide yourself. This map is really well made.

\wcx/
wcx19911123
3,862 posts
Joined June 2010
Topic Starter
wcx19911123

Jarby wrote:

All clear now. I'm confident.
Oh , thanks very much


deepsea wrote:

Easy

00:12:256 (1) - I don't like stack in the beginning, you know this is easy, newhands aren't that good.
Umm.. I think it is OK
blissfulyoshi
osu! Alumni
4,755 posts
Joined July 2008
blissfulyoshi
It annoys me a bit that the 1st kiai section ending keeps on changing. Sometime you do it on teh whole note, and other times your do end on the third note before it. If you can make the kiai section be consistent among all diffs (the problem sections are the end of the first kiai and the end of the second kiai (ozzy's diff only))
Could you also make the dark red combo color a little brighter because it is a little hard to see against the black bg in the beginning and the right edge at the ending of the song.

Easy: fine

Normal:
02:50:051 (4,6) - the pattern looks a little cleaner if these 2 notes don't overlap

Combo mod:
00:41:783 (1,3) - the combos fit he lyrics a bit better if you remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 3
00:49:342 (6,1) - the combos fit he lyrics a bit better if you remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 6
02:40:838 (7,1) - the combos fit he lyrics a bit better if you remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 7

Ozzy's Taiko: Just curious, why is the slider tick rate 3 here? Besides that, the map is fine

Hard:
Personally, I felt a good chunk of the half-speed sliders did not fit the song very well because the music doesn't slow down at those parts most of the time. Oh well, I guess this is a more personal complaint since I don't like slow downs usually.

Combo mod:
00:32:335 (1,3) - the combos fit he lyrics a bit better if you remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 3
00:34:697 (1,2) - the combos fit he lyrics a bit better if you remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 2

Carnival0108: Wow, this map is difficult. Oh well, it played fine in my test, and everything else I checked was fine. As a result, I can call it fine xD.

==========================

This is a fairly decent map, but the kiai and color issue slightly annoy me. On another note, I did not test the timing yet, so I will check it soon. I guess fix what you want, and contact me for a recheck (not exactly sure what I want to do from there yet) For now, star.
wcx19911123
3,862 posts
Joined June 2010
Topic Starter
wcx19911123

blissfulyoshi wrote:

SPOILER
It annoys me a bit that the 1st kiai section ending keeps on changing. Sometime you do it on teh whole note, and other times your do end on the third note before it. If you can make the kiai section be consistent among all diffs (the problem sections are the end of the first kiai and the end of the second kiai (ozzy's diff only))
Could you also make the dark red combo color a little brighter because it is a little hard to see against the black bg in the beginning and the right edge at the ending of the song.
I fixed the kiai section , now all diffs are the same.
Also I changed the combo colors , hope it feel better now.

Easy: fine
Thanks

Normal:
02:50:051 (4,6) - the pattern looks a little cleaner if these 2 notes don't overlap
Fixed

Combo mod:
00:41:783 (1,3) - the combos fit he lyrics a bit better if you remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 3
00:49:342 (6,1) - the combos fit he lyrics a bit better if you remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 6
02:40:838 (7,1) - the combos fit he lyrics a bit better if you remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 7
sorry , but I think use simple newcombo in a Normal diff is beter.

Ozzy's Taiko: Just curious, why is the slider tick rate 3 here? Besides that, the map is fine
Thanks

Hard:
Personally, I felt a good chunk of the half-speed sliders did not fit the song very well because the music doesn't slow down at those parts most of the time. Oh well, I guess this is a more personal complaint since I don't like slow downs usually.
Um.. I think it is OK 0.0

Combo mod:
00:32:335 (1,3) - the combos fit he lyrics a bit better if you remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 3
00:34:697 (1,2) - the combos fit he lyrics a bit better if you remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 2
Fixed

Carnival0108: Wow, this map is difficult. Oh well, it played fine in my test, and everything else I checked was fine. As a result, I can call it fine xD.
Thanks

==========================

This is a fairly decent map, but the kiai and color issue slightly annoy me. On another note, I did not test the timing yet, so I will check it soon. I guess fix what you want, and contact me for a recheck (not exactly sure what I want to do from there yet) For now, star.
Thanks for modding > <
OzzyOzrock
5,185 posts
Joined August 2010
OzzyOzrock

blissfulyoshi wrote:

It annoys me a bit that the 1st kiai section ending keeps on changing. Sometime you do it on teh whole note, and other times your do end on the third note before it. If you can make the kiai section be consistent among all diffs (the problem sections are the end of the first kiai and the end of the second kiai (ozzy's diff only)) o.o

Ozzy's Taiko: Just curious, why is the slider tick rate 3 here? Besides that, the map is fine
Well, there aren't any sliders in the map at all, and slider tick rate doesn't even do anything in these kinds of maps so...
Shiirn
2,896 posts
Joined August 2010
Shiirn

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Well, there aren't any sliders in the map at all, and slider tick rate doesn't even do anything in these kinds of maps so...
Because it's funny.
KanaRin
1,886 posts
Joined April 2010
KanaRin
;_; I was too late.(Sorry)

For the Taiko diff.
I think it's good enough. I can't find any big problem.

So~ Star~
Kyonko Hizara
2,855 posts
Joined August 2010
Kyonko Hizara
:)
Linn
57 posts
Joined April 2010
Linn
star!~
blissfulyoshi
osu! Alumni
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Joined July 2008
blissfulyoshi
Okay, after going through the map, everything seems to check out, so I guess I can rank this.

Changelog: (Stuff done before ranking)
Hard: 00:42:020 (1,2,3) - made into a slider to be easier to read
Aligned the kiai sections.
val0108
1,430 posts
Joined January 2010
val0108
congratz!
Curisu
2,241 posts
Joined January 2010
Curisu
迅速祝贺
wcx19911123
3,862 posts
Joined June 2010
Topic Starter
wcx19911123

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Okay, after going through the map, everything seems to check out, so I guess I can rank this.

Changelog: (Stuff done before ranking)
Hard: 00:42:020 (1,2,3) - made into a slider to be easier to read
Aligned the kiai sections.
Thanks >w<
Sallad4ever
2,917 posts
Joined October 2009
Sallad4ever
Congratz for the rank :3

Carnival0108 is sooo hard :o
Ayeen_old
316 posts
Joined October 2010
Ayeen_old
congratz on rank
- Rche -
382 posts
Joined May 2010
- Rche -
gratz again.
Shiki
271 posts
Joined April 2010
Shiki
王长喜神mapper <( _ _ )>
Nymph
osu! Alumni
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Nymph

Shiki wrote:

王长喜神mapper <( _ _ )>
OzzyOzrock
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Joined August 2010
OzzyOzrock
yay! gratz! :D
Axey
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Joined October 2009
Axey
:P
Oinarisama_old
Oinarisama_old
:) 膜拜
HakuNoKaemi
3,828 posts
Joined October 2009
HakuNoKaemi
you didn't correct the kiai...

you're using a wrong bpm actually... the really one is the half, 127 ... and for this the flashing during kiai are too much fast and this could be corrected without modifying the map that much...
Jarby
2,963 posts
Joined August 2008
Jarby

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

you didn't correct the kiai...

you're using a wrong bpm actually... the really one is the half, 127 ... and for this the flashing during kiai are too much fast and this could be corrected without modifying the map that much...
What makes you think 127 is correct? To put it simply, 254 made more sense to me because of how fast the rhythm is throughout the song.
MegidonLOL
9 posts
Joined July 2011
MegidonLOL
congratz on the rank! :)

This is one of my favorite songs! :)
HakuNoKaemi
3,828 posts
Joined October 2009
HakuNoKaemi

Jarby wrote:

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

you didn't correct the kiai...

you're using a wrong bpm actually... the really one is the half, 127 ... and for this the flashing during kiai are too much fast and this could be corrected without modifying the map that much...
What makes you think 127 is correct? To put it simply, 254 made more sense to me because of how fast the rhythm is throughout the song.
Just confront with an Allegro ( 120-139 BPM ) and a Prestissimo ( 200+ BPM ) and you'll see why
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