This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2011年6月14日 at 9:50:40

Artist: Hayami Saori, Tange Sakura, Minaguchi Yuko
Title: Valentine no Ai Kotoba
Source: Love Plus
Tags: manaka nene rinko konami love plus+ pokie
BPM: 157
Filesize: 6395kb
Play Time: 03:32
Difficulties Available:

1. Love Plus (4.96 stars, 528 notes)
2. Manaka (3.76 stars, 230 notes)
3. Nene (4.76 stars, 374 notes)
4. Rinko (2.31 stars, 144 notes)

Download: Hayami Saori, Tange Sakura, Minaguchi Yuko - Valentine no Ai Kotoba
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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5th map

Love plus+
爱相随+
ラブプラス+




DIFF:
Love plus by xinhe
Nene by pokie
Manaka by xinhe
Rinko by xinhe

！ratS

求加個tags

Pokie wrote:

:? 求加個tags

STRESS~~~我马上补上～～～～

新河也来帮我star几个图吧
↓ 有个你star过了

good~ star~

啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊打了半天东西一个预览后退就没有了啊啊！！！！！我今晚得睡觉了下次补起来。。。

star star~~~

starrrrrrrrrrrrr

nice song

颜射xinhe一脸星

Good Map！
Bu Jie Shi……

渣mod来了 请选择性无视 ~

[Timing]
负数貌似会被吐槽 找个整拍调整一下

[Love Plus]
01:02:076 - 7 8 9 感觉这里的节奏这样排 感觉不太自然
(可玩性建议)可以把 ⑧ 变成1.3~1.5倍速度 再摆出去.

01:29:018 (1) - 1 2 稍微摆近一点

...orz 能力有限就这样了
Good luck

打个酱油 射颗星星~

hi

(>'(oo)')> my mod <('(oo)'<)

关于soft里局部normal的使用建议找别的图参考下，有的地方感觉不自然。

LP

00:41:248 (1) - new combo?
00:57:107 (4) - 高潮部分就这么几个红-红slider让我感觉很不舒服，因为正好把重音拍夹中间了，有种节奏突然中断的感觉。
00:58:636 (8) - 比如这个
01:10:865 (6) - 这个。其它的自己找吧……排图的时候应该就想好音效，哪些地方要下clap就一定要有note。
01:17:171 (5) - new combo?
02:05:706 (5,6) - 这两个我感觉音效上应该减弱了。
02:11:439 (1,2,3) - 这几个对应的地方是不是也应该加点normal?
02:17:553 (1,2,3) - ^
02:52:521 (1) - 这个new combo没必要


Nene

一遍打过去感觉没啥大问题

01:34:369 (2) - 这个形状不和中轴对称了？


Manaka

应该没啥问题


Rinko

低难度我真看不出啥问题（我懒



star

all suggestions~

Love Plus

00:03:604 - add a note ?
00:52:330 (2) - remove whistle?
01:02:840 (9) - move farther ? (dont stack
01:16:025 (4,5,6) - hmm ..spacing ?!
01:42:012 - add a note ?

Nene

fine~

Manaka

no bad

Rinko

remove lead-in?

LP+

star~

0.0

OvO/

[general]

可以说你做的countdown完全浪费了……我这里没有显示。看看是什么问题吧@_@
小推荐：既然是三个主唱，你可以把combo color分配三个人，谁主唱用谁的combo color，合唱可以再有两个combo color互换w

[rinko]

SV略高。没什么问题。

[manaka]

不知道对刚开始的spacing应不应该吐个槽，主要是那段也不算高潮，spacing比之后还大[stress]
00:27:107 - 放个转盘应该不错吧……

[nene]

00:26:343 (3) - 没卡拍子上，要么换成三折返，要么换成长slider。
整体比loveplus好了一个档次，有几个折返slider如下，不太推荐，不过我觉得节奏却挺好。

[loveplus]

我是觉得打起来没什么问题，但是很多地方的slider啊都卡在没有主节奏没有人声的地方（基本上是红线），稍微有点奇怪。
比如：00:26:916 (3) - 是我的话，会处理成00:26:343 (2) - 折返，然后把转盘提前到27190这条蓝线上。00:20:802 (3) - 这个也是同理。
00:32:458 (5) - 折返太多的slider我也不推荐，一是现在主流都是折返一下就ok了，第二就是毕竟这首歌太柔了，完全可以节奏再松一点。同理03:02:267 (6) - 这样的折返slider基本上都是卡在人声长音的地方，效果并不好，最好能换成长slider。
00:41:248 (6) - 这种spacing的话还是new combo比较好。
00:56:725 (1) - 三连没必要，这里没有固定的三连点。
02:23:668 (3,4,5) - 放成四个note会更好，现在的有点不卡调。

qinche wrote:

OvO/

[general]

可以说你做的countdown完全浪费了……我这里没有显示。看看是什么问题吧@_@
小推荐：既然是三个主唱，你可以把combo color分配三个人，谁主唱用谁的combo color，合唱可以再有两个combo color互换w
(其实就是这样，COMBO COLOR是游戏里每个妹子的三种性格)

[rinko]

SV略高。没什么问题。

[manaka]

不知道对刚开始的spacing应不应该吐个槽，主要是那段也不算高潮，spacing比之后还大[stress]
00:27:107 - 放个转盘应该不错吧……

[nene]

00:26:343 (3) - 没卡拍子上，要么换成三折返，要么换成长slider。
整体比loveplus好了一个档次，有几个折返slider如下，不太推荐，不过我觉得节奏却挺好。

[loveplus]

我是觉得打起来没什么问题，但是很多地方的slider啊都卡在没有主节奏没有人声的地方（基本上是红线），稍微有点奇怪。
比如：00:26:916 (3) - 是我的话，会处理成00:26:343 (2) - 折返，然后把转盘提前到27190这条蓝线上。00:20:802 (3) - 这个也是同理。
00:32:458 (5) - 折返太多的slider我也不推荐，一是现在主流都是折返一下就ok了，第二就是毕竟这首歌太柔了，完全可以节奏再松一点。同理03:02:267 (6) - 这样的折返slider基本上都是卡在人声长音的地方，效果并不好，最好能换成长slider。
00:41:248 (6) - 这种spacing的话还是new combo比较好。
00:56:725 (1) - 三连没必要，这里没有固定的三连点。
02:23:668 (3,4,5) - 放成四个note会更好，现在的有点不卡调。

^o^ /谢谢阿澈～今天下了课回来改改

._.

>_>无耻的给

Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
love plus不用大写首字母吗。。。我查了下过去的，两个大写了一个没有……怎么就你一个做还乱七八糟的233
各难度lead-in不同，请统一调整到1500。
你的三个难度kiai的结束时间……为什么会在那里结束kiai我无法理解。。。
整体还是直线感严重。

[Rinko]
只map 1/3是不是有点太懒，至少到Manaka难度那里吧
00:23:286 (1) - 为什么之前都有头whistle这个没有
00:26:187 (4) - not snapped
00:33:222 - 00:36:279 空8拍，3秒，认真的吗，这一共才多点长度
01:04:942 (2) - 可以nazi的
01:10:674 (4) - ^
最低难没惹你，认真点。

[Manaka]
00:54:623 (1,3) - 我很想建议你学着用4个点或5个点画slider而不是3个点。
01:03:795 (1) - 这里开始的节奏和前面的平稳突然反差很强。虽然一直都是vocal但也不是这个样子
01:29:018 (1) - 头whistle？

[Nene]
01:52:330 (4) - 尾whistle去掉
02:38:572 (2,3) - 建议把尾的换到头。。。

[Love Plus]
HP-1/-2比较合理
00:00:738 (2) - 和后面贯彻，这个应该默认soft-hitwhistle？
00:15:165 (3,4) - 实际上这两个音给我感觉有点多余，试试看变soft怎样？另外这几个音声过大了。后面还有，略过
00:31:693 - 这里明显按这个思路该补个normal-hitnormal但是放note时就没注意到么。。。
00:40:865 (5,1) - spacing?
00:50:993 (2,3,4) - 哦吓死我了。。音量和音效转变有点突然了，后面还有，略过
02:46:216 (1,2,3,4,5) - 给我的感觉是“做到这了，突然想起来这不够难”。 这里甚至也不像之前至少是Normal音可以理解的跳
02:49:273 (1,1) - 这俩出于任何理由不都是该摆到对称位吗。。

<3 <3 love this

什么东西？都是英文啊~~~TAT看不懂……

no.

Just go through a quick check and no main problems found.

/me shoot a star.

star TVT

hi

[General]
- resize all bg to 1024x768
- pause button的部分和背景顏色太接近了, 建議加深陰影黑色/減少間格, 或移除陰影改用黑色邊框或暗色系光暈
- audio lead-in 所有難度都統一 (另外2000可能比1500好些, 現在Manaka的hp-bar最後還是瞬移了)
- KIAI線snap到高白線上, 現在沒有所謂的綠線bug了, 不用把綠線擺在note前

[Rinko]
<00:30:165> (1) use S:finish
<00:36:279> (1) ^
- there're more place capable of putting finishes and i think putting them makes better rhythm, but up to you~
<01:01:502> (2,3) try not to overlap (2,3)

[Manaka]
- 開頭的部分能好好的排一下, 太直角了
<00:27:107> 認為這裡擺個spinner會比Breaktime好
<00:36:279> 下note

[Nene]
<00:07:617> (2,3,4) keep spacing?
<00:10:292> (1,2) ^
<00:35:897> (7,1,2) spacing
<01:42:776> (4,5,6) spacing
<01:50:802> (7) not perfectly stacked
<02:24:814> make this KIAI end where other diff does?

[Love Plus]
<02:24:814> (S) Orz end KIAI during spinner!?
<02:50:754> (T) 刪綠線
<02:53:142> (T) 刪綠線
<03:18:318> (S) again Orz

star

You posted on my queue a long time ago orz.... here's my mod.

General:
The center circle for the spinner is very hard to see, maybe color it black or something so it's visible?
You do know that there are different colors throughout different difficulties, right? (in case this was an oversight).

Rinko:
00:30:165 (1,3) - A bit too square to be wrapping around (2), fix by adding more nodes.
00:32:458 (5) - Not symmetric
01:39:337 (1) - Move up to fit against (5), don't forget to adjust rest of combo accordingly.
01:53:859 (1) - Curve is a bit too sharp to wrap against a circle.

Manaka:
00:55:770 (1) - Don't think this needs to be a new combo
01:08:381 (4) - Not symmetrical, and doesn't wrap around (1) properly.
01:50:228 (4) - placement feels awkward, would have expected it to continue the flow from the arc at (3).
01:55:006 (3) - Asymmetrical
02:00:356 (1) - move endpoint up one grid so it points into (2).
02:23:668 (5) - Too flat against (4)

Nene:
All notes before 00:07:426 - I think the combos are placed kinda randomly, maybe reset the combos before here, then place them at:
00:00:356 (1) -
00:03:031 (1) -
00:06:088 (1) -
If you want shorter combos, then you can also place them on:
00:01:884 (1) -
00:04:941 (1) -

00:29:591 (1) - not NC

Love Plus:
00:03:413 (1) - Looks ugly scrunched up like that, try making symmetric and with more arc.
00:26:916 (3) - Symmetry- raise endpoint by one grid, right 1 grid.
01:14:305 (5) - A bit too sharp
02:58:827 (1,2,3) - Not quite rotationally symmetrical; it'd be best to pick on slider, copy twice more, and rotate those by 120 and 240 degrees to achieve perfection.

Pretty song, TBH I was enjoying Love Plus too much to mod it very thoroughly. Star + Kudostar!

akrolsmir wrote:

You posted on my queue a long time ago orz.... here's my mod.

General:
The center circle for the spinner is very hard to see, maybe color it black or something so it's visible?
You do know that there are different colors throughout different difficulties, right? (in case this was an oversight).

Rinko:
00:30:165 (1,3) - A bit too square to be wrapping around (2), fix by adding more nodes.
00:32:458 (5) - Not symmetric
01:39:337 (1) - Move up to fit against (5), don't forget to adjust rest of combo accordingly.
01:53:859 (1) - Curve is a bit too sharp to wrap against a circle.

Manaka:
00:55:770 (1) - Don't think this needs to be a new combo
01:08:381 (4) - Not symmetrical, and doesn't wrap around (1) properly.
01:50:228 (4) - placement feels awkward, would have expected it to continue the flow from the arc at (3).
01:55:006 (3) - Asymmetrical
02:00:356 (1) - move endpoint up one grid so it points into (2).
02:23:668 (5) - Too flat against (4)

Nene:
All notes before 00:07:426 - I think the combos are placed kinda randomly, maybe reset the combos before here, then place them at:
00:00:356 (1) -
00:03:031 (1) -
00:06:088 (1) -
If you want shorter combos, then you can also place them on:
00:01:884 (1) -
00:04:941 (1) -

00:29:591 (1) - not NC

Love Plus:
00:03:413 (1) - Looks ugly scrunched up like that, try making symmetric and with more arc.
00:26:916 (3) - Symmetry- raise endpoint by one grid, right 1 grid.
01:14:305 (5) - A bit too sharp
02:58:827 (1,2,3) - Not quite rotationally symmetrical; it'd be best to pick on slider, copy twice more, and rotate those by 120 and 240 degrees to achieve perfection.

Pretty song, TBH I was enjoying Love Plus too much to mod it very thoroughly. Star + Kudostar!

fix
and THX your mod and kudostar

XD

传送过来给☆

GJ, 越来越舒畅的排列
就是最后有几个跳完全没有征兆,稍微有点突然,但是不影响整体,可无视本建议
LOVE PLUS+ 无条件支持

前来膜拜星河神mapper

[Rinko]
00:17:171 (1,2,3) - 这spacing是怎么回事
00:26:152 (4,5) - 两个建议，(3)(4)合成一个slider，(4)(5)stack
00:51:566 (1,1) - 靠太近了感觉
01:31:884 (4,5) - 同理

[Manaka]
01:36:088 (1,2,3) - 这里先用折返slider让玩家熟悉节奏之后，后面同样的节奏再用circle比较好
01:42:203 (1) - 比如这里开始换circle

[Nene]
- sb -
00:00:069 - 建议提早渐进，然后在这里00:01:120做一个扩大+消失的效果，不懂mod sb不知道听得懂不 0.0
- other -
00:26:343 (3) - 这里没有tick提醒感觉有点突然0.0
00:29:591 (3) - 突然快了。。
00:35:897 (7,1,2) - spacing
01:01:502 (5) - flow没了，多一次repeat？
01:19:082 (8) - 感觉没什么意思的0.75 0.0
01:34:369 (2,1) - 这里的spacing最好还是遵守0.5速的比较好
02:36:662 (1) - 这里结尾最好听得到比较好，不然接下来的note节奏不好抓
02:38:572 (2) - 02:39:146结束？
03:18:318 (1) - 感觉finish比静音好

[Love Plus]
slider tick rate = 2？因为减速slider太多了最好来点tick提醒下
00:20:802 (3) - 跟vocal的话，circle 00:20:802，slider 00:20:993 - 00:21:375比较好
00:57:107 (3) - 跟vocal的话可以改改
01:18:891 (1) - 这里开始01:19:082？或者circle下紧接spinner？
02:57:872 (6,7,8) - 这circle和slider头跟sliderbody没在一条弧线上感觉很违和
03:26:725 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这里spacing坑爹，这种骗pc的手段一般没有好结果
03:32:076 (1) - 我觉得结尾可能要提前1/8

总的来说不错的图，flow很好，也不坑爹
如果肯下点功夫在slider上就更好了0.0 比如多点shape啊，slider包围circle包好点啊，之类的
恩就这么多了

Love Plus:
02:24:814 (1) - end at 02:26:152 (x) - ?

nene:
00:29:591 (3) - seems a bit far from previous.
01:38:572 (9) - ^
02:21:757 (1,2,3,4,5) - 如果你是想要弄小jump的話這裡的spacing最好保持一致,和後面的也一樣.

可以的話把manaka和rinko做到和其他的一樣長.

title & artist的話，我個人建議是譯成 [Valentine no Ai Kotoba](バレンタインの愛言葉), 人名的話把名字在前面 (Saori Hayami, Sakura Tange, Yuko Minaguchi),符合西方習慣.

對了，也許也會有人叫你把topic title也改掉讓整個title能完整顯示(例:S.Hayami, S.Tange, Y.Minaguchi - Valentine no Ai Kotoba)，到時改就是了，其實我也不太關心這個.

abalee wrote:

Love Plus:
02:24:814 (1) - end at 02:26:152 (x) - ?

nene:
00:29:591 (3) - seems a bit far from previous.
01:38:572 (9) - ^
02:21:757 (1,2,3,4,5) - 如果你是想要弄小jump的話這裡的spacing最好保持一致,和後面的也一樣.

可以的話把manaka和rinko做到和其他的一樣長.

title & artist的話，我個人建議是譯成 [Valentine no Ai Kotoba](バレンタインの愛言葉), 人名的話把名字在前面 (Saori Hayami, Sakura Tange, Yuko Minaguchi),符合西方習慣.

對了，也許也會有人叫你把topic title也改掉讓整個title能完整顯示(例:S.Hayami, S.Tange, Y.Minaguchi - Valentine no Ai Kotoba)，到時改就是了，其實我也不太關心這個.

FIX~

唔..再提點小意見.
Nene：
很多地方都用10%的音量來消slidertick的聲音，其實倒不如把 slider tick rate 改成 0.5,那樣其實可以少加很多綠線，分也不會少很多.現在的話也可以pass只是看起來蛋疼了點.
00:08:381 (4,5) - & 00:11:820 (3,4) -同為 1/1 sapcing不一致，大概是因為一段是0.5x另外一段是0.75x吧，改動一下好點.

edit.

abalee wrote:

唔..再提點小意見.
Nene：
很多地方都用10%的音量來消slidertick的聲音，其實倒不如把 slider tick rate 改成 0.5,那樣其實可以少加很多綠線，分也不會少很多.現在的話也可以pass只是看起來蛋疼了點.
00:08:381 (4,5) - & 00:11:820 (3,4) -同為 1/1 sapcing不一致，大概是因為一段是0.5x另外一段是0.75x吧，改動一下好點.

FIX

I'm seeing the SB objects in the list, but I don't actually see the object itself.... http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/99786 . Also, the pokie.png doesn't look right. the "p" looks more like an uppercase "D". Make sure to check into that as well.


[Nene]

01:57:299 (1,2) - Honestly, this doesn't look very neat. You can try stacking (2) under the slider and moving 01:57:872 (3,1) down a bit.

whymeman wrote:

I'm seeing the SB objects in the list, but I don't actually see the object itself.... http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/99786 . Also, the pokie.png doesn't look right. the "p" looks more like an uppercase "D". Make sure to check into that as well.


[Nene]

01:57:299 (1,2) - Honestly, this doesn't look very neat. You can try stacking (2) under the slider and moving 01:57:872 (3,1) down a bit.

fix all

Where did the Pokie.png go?

whymeman wrote:

Where did the Pokie.png go?

what? sorry i will reupload