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S.Hayami, S.Tange, Y.Minaguchi - Valentine no Ai Kotoba

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xinhe
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2011年6月14日 at 9:50:40

Artist: Hayami Saori, Tange Sakura, Minaguchi Yuko
Title: Valentine no Ai Kotoba
Source: Love Plus
Tags: manaka nene rinko konami love plus+ pokie
BPM: 157
Filesize: 6395kb
Play Time: 03:32
Difficulties Available:
  1. Love Plus (4.96 stars, 528 notes)
  2. Manaka (3.76 stars, 230 notes)
  3. Nene (4.76 stars, 374 notes)
  4. Rinko (2.31 stars, 144 notes)
Download: Hayami Saori, Tange Sakura, Minaguchi Yuko - Valentine no Ai Kotoba
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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5th map

Love plus+
爱相随+
ラブプラス+





DIFF:
Love plus by xinhe
Nene by pokie
Manaka by xinhe
Rinko by xinhe
Ballance
!ratS
Yimo_Coppola
:)
Suimya
;)
Pokie
:? 求加個tags
Topic Starter
xinhe

Pokie wrote:

:? 求加個tags
STRESS~~~我马上补上~~~~
Hinagiku
;)
DarkRingSystem
8-)
Snowy Dream
新河也来帮我star几个图吧
↓ 有个你star过了
Furukawa Nagisa_old
:) good~ star~
Explosive
啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊打了半天东西一个预览后退就没有了啊啊!!!!!我今晚得睡觉了下次补起来。。。
Okamiroy
star star~~~ :)
Megurine Luka
starrrrrrrrrrrrr
Asakura Naoko
nice song
Starbreeze
8-)
Sumisola
颜射xinhe一脸星 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Senri Akane
Good Map!
Bu Jie Shi……
DarkRingSystem
:D
渣mod来了 请选择性无视 ~

[Timing]
负数貌似会被吐槽 找个整拍调整一下

[Love Plus]
01:02:076 - 7 8 9 感觉这里的节奏这样排 感觉不太自然
(可玩性建议)可以把 ⑧ 变成1.3~1.5倍速度 再摆出去.

01:29:018 (1) - 1 2 稍微摆近一点

...orz 能力有限就这样了
Good luck
mjw5150
打个酱油 射颗星星~
Sandpig
hi :D

(>'(oo)')> my mod <('(oo)'<)

关于soft里局部normal的使用建议找别的图参考下,有的地方感觉不自然。

LP

00:41:248 (1) - new combo?
00:57:107 (4) - 高潮部分就这么几个红-红slider让我感觉很不舒服,因为正好把重音拍夹中间了,有种节奏突然中断的感觉。
00:58:636 (8) - 比如这个
01:10:865 (6) - 这个。其它的自己找吧……排图的时候应该就想好音效,哪些地方要下clap就一定要有note。
01:17:171 (5) - new combo?
02:05:706 (5,6) - 这两个我感觉音效上应该减弱了。
02:11:439 (1,2,3) - 这几个对应的地方是不是也应该加点normal?
02:17:553 (1,2,3) - ^
02:52:521 (1) - 这个new combo没必要


Nene

一遍打过去感觉没啥大问题

01:34:369 (2) - 这个形状不和中轴对称了?


Manaka

应该没啥问题


Rinko

低难度我真看不出啥问题(我懒



star
AngelHoney
all suggestions~

Love Plus

00:03:604 - add a note ?
00:52:330 (2) - remove whistle?
01:02:840 (9) - move farther ? (dont stack
01:16:025 (4,5,6) - hmm ..spacing ?!
01:42:012 - add a note ?

Nene

fine~

Manaka

no bad

Rinko

remove lead-in?

:) :) :)
hez
;)
fanzhen0019
LP+

star~
__leidian__
0.0
qinche
OvO/

[general]

可以说你做的countdown完全浪费了……我这里没有显示。看看是什么问题吧@_@
小推荐:既然是三个主唱,你可以把combo color分配三个人,谁主唱用谁的combo color,合唱可以再有两个combo color互换w

[rinko]

SV略高。没什么问题。

[manaka]

不知道对刚开始的spacing应不应该吐个槽,主要是那段也不算高潮,spacing比之后还大[stress]
00:27:107 - 放个转盘应该不错吧……

[nene]

00:26:343 (3) - 没卡拍子上,要么换成三折返,要么换成长slider。
整体比loveplus好了一个档次,有几个折返slider如下,不太推荐,不过我觉得节奏却挺好。

[loveplus]

我是觉得打起来没什么问题,但是很多地方的slider啊都卡在没有主节奏没有人声的地方(基本上是红线),稍微有点奇怪。
比如:00:26:916 (3) - 是我的话,会处理成00:26:343 (2) - 折返,然后把转盘提前到27190这条蓝线上。00:20:802 (3) - 这个也是同理。
00:32:458 (5) - 折返太多的slider我也不推荐,一是现在主流都是折返一下就ok了,第二就是毕竟这首歌太柔了,完全可以节奏再松一点。同理03:02:267 (6) - 这样的折返slider基本上都是卡在人声长音的地方,效果并不好,最好能换成长slider。
00:41:248 (6) - 这种spacing的话还是new combo比较好。
00:56:725 (1) - 三连没必要,这里没有固定的三连点。
02:23:668 (3,4,5) - 放成四个note会更好,现在的有点不卡调。
Topic Starter
xinhe

qinche wrote:

OvO/

[general]

可以说你做的countdown完全浪费了……我这里没有显示。看看是什么问题吧@_@
小推荐:既然是三个主唱,你可以把combo color分配三个人,谁主唱用谁的combo color,合唱可以再有两个combo color互换w
(其实就是这样,COMBO COLOR是游戏里每个妹子的三种性格)

[rinko]

SV略高。没什么问题。

[manaka]

不知道对刚开始的spacing应不应该吐个槽,主要是那段也不算高潮,spacing比之后还大[stress]
00:27:107 - 放个转盘应该不错吧……

[nene]

00:26:343 (3) - 没卡拍子上,要么换成三折返,要么换成长slider。
整体比loveplus好了一个档次,有几个折返slider如下,不太推荐,不过我觉得节奏却挺好。

[loveplus]

我是觉得打起来没什么问题,但是很多地方的slider啊都卡在没有主节奏没有人声的地方(基本上是红线),稍微有点奇怪。
比如:00:26:916 (3) - 是我的话,会处理成00:26:343 (2) - 折返,然后把转盘提前到27190这条蓝线上。00:20:802 (3) - 这个也是同理。
00:32:458 (5) - 折返太多的slider我也不推荐,一是现在主流都是折返一下就ok了,第二就是毕竟这首歌太柔了,完全可以节奏再松一点。同理03:02:267 (6) - 这样的折返slider基本上都是卡在人声长音的地方,效果并不好,最好能换成长slider。
00:41:248 (6) - 这种spacing的话还是new combo比较好。
00:56:725 (1) - 三连没必要,这里没有固定的三连点。
02:23:668 (3,4,5) - 放成四个note会更好,现在的有点不卡调。
^o^ /谢谢阿澈~今天下了课回来改改
mckeee
._.
B821_HD
>_>无耻的给
NatsumeRin
Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
love plus不用大写首字母吗。。。我查了下过去的,两个大写了一个没有……怎么就你一个做还乱七八糟的233
各难度lead-in不同,请统一调整到1500。
你的三个难度kiai的结束时间……为什么会在那里结束kiai我无法理解。。。
整体还是直线感严重。

[Rinko]
只map 1/3是不是有点太懒,至少到Manaka难度那里吧
00:23:286 (1) - 为什么之前都有头whistle这个没有
00:26:187 (4) - not snapped
00:33:222 - 00:36:279 空8拍,3秒,认真的吗,这一共才多点长度
01:04:942 (2) - 可以nazi的
01:10:674 (4) - ^

最低难没惹你,认真点。

[Manaka]
00:54:623 (1,3) - 我很想建议你学着用4个点或5个点画slider而不是3个点。
01:03:795 (1) - 这里开始的节奏和前面的平稳突然反差很强。虽然一直都是vocal但也不是这个样子
01:29:018 (1) - 头whistle?

[Nene]
01:52:330 (4) - 尾whistle去掉
02:38:572 (2,3) - 建议把尾的换到头。。。

[Love Plus]
HP-1/-2比较合理
00:00:738 (2) - 和后面贯彻,这个应该默认soft-hitwhistle?
00:15:165 (3,4) - 实际上这两个音给我感觉有点多余,试试看变soft怎样?另外这几个音声过大了。后面还有,略过
00:31:693 - 这里明显按这个思路该补个normal-hitnormal但是放note时就没注意到么。。。
00:40:865 (5,1) - spacing?
00:50:993 (2,3,4) - 哦吓死我了。。音量和音效转变有点突然了,后面还有,略过
02:46:216 (1,2,3,4,5) - 给我的感觉是“做到这了,突然想起来这不够难”。 这里甚至也不像之前至少是Normal音可以理解的跳
02:49:273 (1,1) - 这俩出于任何理由不都是该摆到对称位吗。。
Arche
<3 <3 love this
Ran-6996
什么东西?都是英文啊~~~TAT看不懂……
Sumisola
:)
JauiPlaY
no. :D
Axey
Just go through a quick check and no main problems found.

/me shoot a star.
yanhan1064
star TVT
loveFantasy
hi

[General]
- resize all bg to 1024x768
- pause button的部分和背景顏色太接近了, 建議加深陰影黑色/減少間格, 或移除陰影改用黑色邊框或暗色系光暈
- audio lead-in 所有難度都統一 (另外2000可能比1500好些, 現在Manaka的hp-bar最後還是瞬移了)
- KIAI線snap到高白線上, 現在沒有所謂的綠線bug了, 不用把綠線擺在note前

[Rinko]
<00:30:165> (1) use S:finish
<00:36:279> (1) ^
- there're more place capable of putting finishes and i think putting them makes better rhythm, but up to you~
<01:01:502> (2,3) try not to overlap (2,3)

[Manaka]
- 開頭的部分能好好的排一下, 太直角了
<00:27:107> 認為這裡擺個spinner會比Breaktime好
<00:36:279> 下note

[Nene]
<00:07:617> (2,3,4) keep spacing?
<00:10:292> (1,2) ^
<00:35:897> (7,1,2) spacing
<01:42:776> (4,5,6) spacing
<01:50:802> (7) not perfectly stacked
<02:24:814> make this KIAI end where other diff does?

[Love Plus]
<02:24:814> (S) Orz end KIAI during spinner!?
<02:50:754> (T) 刪綠線
<02:53:142> (T) 刪綠線
<03:18:318> (S) again Orz

star
akrolsmir
You posted on my queue a long time ago orz.... here's my mod.

General:
The center circle for the spinner is very hard to see, maybe color it black or something so it's visible?
You do know that there are different colors throughout different difficulties, right? (in case this was an oversight).

Rinko:
00:30:165 (1,3) - A bit too square to be wrapping around (2), fix by adding more nodes.
00:32:458 (5) - Not symmetric
01:39:337 (1) - Move up to fit against (5), don't forget to adjust rest of combo accordingly.
01:53:859 (1) - Curve is a bit too sharp to wrap against a circle.

Manaka:
00:55:770 (1) - Don't think this needs to be a new combo
01:08:381 (4) - Not symmetrical, and doesn't wrap around (1) properly.
01:50:228 (4) - placement feels awkward, would have expected it to continue the flow from the arc at (3).
01:55:006 (3) - Asymmetrical
02:00:356 (1) - move endpoint up one grid so it points into (2).
02:23:668 (5) - Too flat against (4)

Nene:
All notes before 00:07:426 - I think the combos are placed kinda randomly, maybe reset the combos before here, then place them at:
00:00:356 (1) -
00:03:031 (1) -
00:06:088 (1) -
If you want shorter combos, then you can also place them on:
00:01:884 (1) -
00:04:941 (1) -

00:29:591 (1) - not NC

Love Plus:
00:03:413 (1) - Looks ugly scrunched up like that, try making symmetric and with more arc.
00:26:916 (3) - Symmetry- raise endpoint by one grid, right 1 grid.
01:14:305 (5) - A bit too sharp
02:58:827 (1,2,3) - Not quite rotationally symmetrical; it'd be best to pick on slider, copy twice more, and rotate those by 120 and 240 degrees to achieve perfection.

Pretty song, TBH I was enjoying Love Plus too much to mod it very thoroughly. Star + Kudostar!
Topic Starter
xinhe

akrolsmir wrote:

You posted on my queue a long time ago orz.... here's my mod.

General:
The center circle for the spinner is very hard to see, maybe color it black or something so it's visible?
You do know that there are different colors throughout different difficulties, right? (in case this was an oversight).

Rinko:
00:30:165 (1,3) - A bit too square to be wrapping around (2), fix by adding more nodes.
00:32:458 (5) - Not symmetric
01:39:337 (1) - Move up to fit against (5), don't forget to adjust rest of combo accordingly.
01:53:859 (1) - Curve is a bit too sharp to wrap against a circle.

Manaka:
00:55:770 (1) - Don't think this needs to be a new combo
01:08:381 (4) - Not symmetrical, and doesn't wrap around (1) properly.
01:50:228 (4) - placement feels awkward, would have expected it to continue the flow from the arc at (3).
01:55:006 (3) - Asymmetrical
02:00:356 (1) - move endpoint up one grid so it points into (2).
02:23:668 (5) - Too flat against (4)

Nene:
All notes before 00:07:426 - I think the combos are placed kinda randomly, maybe reset the combos before here, then place them at:
00:00:356 (1) -
00:03:031 (1) -
00:06:088 (1) -
If you want shorter combos, then you can also place them on:
00:01:884 (1) -
00:04:941 (1) -

00:29:591 (1) - not NC

Love Plus:
00:03:413 (1) - Looks ugly scrunched up like that, try making symmetric and with more arc.
00:26:916 (3) - Symmetry- raise endpoint by one grid, right 1 grid.
01:14:305 (5) - A bit too sharp
02:58:827 (1,2,3) - Not quite rotationally symmetrical; it'd be best to pick on slider, copy twice more, and rotate those by 120 and 240 degrees to achieve perfection.

Pretty song, TBH I was enjoying Love Plus too much to mod it very thoroughly. Star + Kudostar!
fix
and THX your mod and kudostar :)
Kami
XD 8-)
Shirakawa Kotori
传送过来给☆
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