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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017年12月21日 at 18:11:05

Artist: Shakira
Title: Whenever, Wherever
Tags: Laundry Service Tim Mitchell latin worldbeat PatZar Prophecy Genocide Gero
BPM: 107.7
Filesize: 2026kb
Play Time: 01:01
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (1.55 stars, 99 notes)
  2. Gen's Oni (2.79 stars, 204 notes)
  3. Gero's Oni (3.1 stars, 256 notes)
  4. Kantan (0.88 stars, 65 notes)
  5. Oni (2.7 stars, 185 notes)
  6. Prophecy's Muzukashii (2 stars, 136 notes)


Download: Shakira - Whenever, Wherever
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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35th.
Kantan - me Futsuu - me Muzukashii - Prophecy
Oni - me Oni #2 - PatZar Oni #3 - Gero

Metadata:
http://www.shakira.com/music/9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weRHyjj34ZE
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Why.
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Prophecy wrote:

Why.
??
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To conclude with the mod:
Unrankable issue:
  1. Disable Widescreen Support, because you don't have SB.
  2. You don't need combo color for Taiko difficulties.
  3. HP/OD Setting
General Suggestion:
  1. Using some simple 1/4 pattern in Muzukashii instead of some complex "dk" or "kkd" pattern.
  2. Do not place use any big notes if it's stick to 1/4 stream.
  3. Avoid to use long pattern in Futsuu and Kantan, suggest 5 plets or lower.
  4. Try to keep the Spread well. It's little bit of unbalance.
  5. Refer to post p/5115932
Comment:
  1. Nice mapset. Just keep it in your mind, It would help you to map taiko a lots. Good Luck!
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23:13 Prophecy: Regrazzzzzzzz
23:13 Prophecy: hi!
23:13 Regraz: Hiii!
23:14 *Prophecy is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/972256 Shakira - Whenever, Wherever]
23:14 Prophecy: Nice one
23:14 Regraz: Thanks!
23:14 Prophecy: :^)
23:14 Prophecy: just few point to remind you,
23:14 *Prophecy is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/972266 Shakira - Whenever, Wherever [Fuutsu]]
23:14 Regraz: Do you have some advicce :D
23:14 Regraz: Yeah'
23:14 Prophecy: we usually don't use 1/4 in Futsuu
23:14 Prophecy: unless it's really low BPM
23:15 Regraz: Yeah
23:15 Regraz: I guess I didnt use 1/4 :D
23:15 Prophecy: 00:41:560 (69) -
23:15 Prophecy: you miss this 69
23:15 Regraz: Oh I see
23:15 Prophecy: :^)
23:16 Prophecy: and no long 1/2 pattern
23:16 Prophecy: 00:55:069 (100,101,102,103,104,105,106) -
23:16 Regraz: Too long?
23:16 Regraz: Yeah
23:16 Prophecy: yea
23:16 Prophecy: you can remove 00:55:348 (101,105) -
23:16 Regraz: \I try to reduce it
23:16 Prophecy: and become k dkk d
23:16 Regraz: OK!
23:16 Prophecy: keeping ;)
23:17 Prophecy: same pattern is the nice way :D
23:17 *Prophecy is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/972156 Shakira - Whenever, Wherever [Muzukashii]]
23:17 Regraz: Yep
23:17 Prophecy: 00:11:337 (12) - it's different with 00:13:565
23:17 Prophecy: maybe add a don?
23:18 Regraz: In 13:565?
23:18 Prophecy: 00:16:908 - you're missing a note here
23:18 Prophecy: yea
23:18 Prophecy: maybe ddd is better
23:18 Regraz: But should I add a d at 00:09:108 (6) - too?
23:19 Prophecy: same as here 00:30:278
23:19 Prophecy: yea, you can
23:19 Prophecy: because you also added a don on Futsuu
23:19 Regraz: Yep
23:20 Prophecy: 00:34:456 (81,82,83,84,85,86) - this pattern are not fine
23:20 Regraz: So do I
23:20 Regraz: Yet I dont have better ideas
23:20 Prophecy: you can put dk dk dk to -> [http://puu.sh/oLFl3.jpg this]
23:21 Prophecy: ofc, this cannot pass too 00:36:685 (87,88,89,90,91,92) -
23:21 Regraz: OK!
23:22 Prophecy: no, I highly recommend you to remove the finisher (become a small note) at 00:42:813 (104) - , we usually not put a big note at the end of 1/4
23:22 Regraz: Oh that is my mistake
23:22 Regraz: removed
23:22 Regraz: I used a hitsound software and forget to remove the finisher
23:22 Regraz: xD
23:23 Regraz: Same at01:01:197 (172) -
23:23 Prophecy: 00:50:334 (130,131,132) - as Dake said, Muzukashii should use some monotone pattern
23:23 Prophecy: prefer ddd/kkk
23:24 Prophecy: actually I really not sure about the "dk" pattern in your map
23:24 Regraz: OK
23:24 Prophecy: 01:00:919 (170,171) - same as above, kkk I think
23:24 Regraz: I am not sure either, mintong said it looks more like an easy Oni
23:24 Prophecy: yea
23:25 Regraz: yeah
23:25 Prophecy: dk"
23:25 Prophecy: pattern like Lite Oni XP
23:25 Regraz: How about changing it to Oni and add a new diff?
23:25 Prophecy: no, I not really suggest that
23:25 Prophecy: seems the spread is fine
23:25 Prophecy: you can add a another difficulties instead
23:25 Regraz: OK
23:25 Prophecy: but ensure your Muzukashii should provide enough break
23:26 Prophecy: 00:58:690 - like this
23:26 Regraz: Yeah, maybe add more 1/1 breaks?
23:26 Prophecy: really nice break
23:27 Regraz: OK will try to add more appropriate ones
23:27 Prophecy: but really nice difficulties , you did a great job!
23:27 Regraz: Thank you very much!
23:27 Prophecy: In Kantan,
23:27 Prophecy: few point more
23:27 Prophecy: 00:49:498 (46,47,48,49,50,51,52) -
23:27 Regraz: Do you mind posting in the forum?
23:27 Regraz: Yeah\
23:27 Prophecy: too long @@
23:28 Prophecy: I think 5 notes is fine, but 5+ plets that really not good
23:28 Prophecy: That's all. Good Luck with your map, nice mapset and I hope I can help you


Call me again if you added any other difficulties.
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Thank you prophecy!
Fixed the unrankable issues and will fix the rest issues when next mods came!
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ircmod
21:31 Regraz: Hiiiii!
21:32 PatZar: ohaiiii
21:32 Regraz: Would you like to have a testplay on my first taiko map ;w;?
21:32 PatZar: sure
21:32 PatZar: :3
21:33 Regraz: I need advice ;w;
21:33 PatZar: do you join #cantonese?
21:33 *Regraz is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/972156 Shakira - Whenever, Wherever]
21:33 PatZar: never see you there
21:33 PatZar: lol
21:33 Regraz: Haha I am in Chinese
21:33 Regraz: #chinese
21:33 Regraz: becasue I cannot speak cantonese ;w;
21:33 PatZar: wa
21:33 PatZar: mandarin is hard
21:33 PatZar: same as cantonese
21:33 PatZar: lmao xD
21:33 Regraz: yep
21:33 Regraz: xD
21:33 *PatZar is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/972156 Shakira - Whenever, Wherever]
21:34 PatZar: wow i like this song
21:34 Regraz: OK
21:34 Regraz: wow!
21:34 Regraz: I am glad you like it!
21:34 Regraz: But my map is poor
21:34 Regraz: ;w;
21:34 *PatZar is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/972156 Shakira - Whenever, Wherever [Muzukashii]]
21:35 PatZar: for muzukashii is fine for ox, xo things, but i dont recommend it
21:35 PatZar: and well the bpm is fine low too, so probably ox, xo things would be fine imo
21:35 Regraz: Oh so I can just use ddd kkk?
21:36 Regraz: Yeah some other modders also pick up these issues so I guess i should take it into consideration
21:37 PatZar: i like this repetitive style lol
21:37 Regraz: repetitive ;w;
21:38 Regraz: I just wonder if it's allowed \
21:38 PatZar: it is, dont worry www
21:38 Regraz: ok :D
21:38 PatZar: well, the spread is "more" good if you add an oni
21:39 PatZar: 00:43:649 - becuase it still have a sound
21:39 Regraz: Oni? Isn't it an extra difficulty?
21:39 PatZar: oni = insane
21:39 PatZar: muzukashii = hard
21:39 Regraz: ep
21:39 Regraz: yep*
21:40 Regraz: Though I really don't know how to map Oni ;w;
21:40 Regraz: B-But is the spread now ok? I wonder if the gap is too huge between the difficulties
21:41 PatZar: and i think, this muzu would be boring if the muzu's style is too repetitive
21:41 PatZar: yes
21:41 PatZar: futsuu should add more notes
21:42 PatZar: it's about 20-30notes
21:42 PatZar: and muzu should add more breaks
21:42 Regraz: ahh
21:42 Regraz: 1/1 breaks?
21:43 PatZar: recommend 2/1 and 1/1 breaks
21:43 Regraz: OK!
21:43 PatZar: anyway, change the diff name
21:43 PatZar: fuutsu -> futsuu
21:44 Regraz: Ahahah I am sorry
21:44 PatZar: and the spread between futsuu and muzu is too close
21:44 Regraz: close??
21:44 PatZar: probably make muzu more harder and add some note in futsuu
21:44 PatZar: yeah close
21:45 Regraz: B-but you just let me place more notes in Futsuu and more breaks in Muzu
21:45 Regraz: Will it even decrease the gap more?
21:45 Regraz: ah
21:45 PatZar: emmm
21:46 PatZar: it confusee me
21:46 Regraz: more harder, like to make dk into ddk?
21:46 PatZar: wwww
21:46 PatZar: 00:18:858 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45) - for e.g between futsuu and muzu
21:46 Regraz: eww
21:47 Regraz: yea?
21:47 PatZar: i dont recommend about oox and other kinds of oox in muzu
21:47 PatZar: 00:18:858 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45) - you can see the different about spread around here
21:48 PatZar: futsuu filled about 1/1 breaks and muzu, some 1/1 and 1/2
21:48 PatZar: and not sync-ing with futsuu
21:48 PatZar: ehh
21:48 Regraz: Oh! Muzu should be the same as Futsuu in breaks?
21:48 PatZar: wait, my eye is too sleepy hahaha
21:48 Regraz: ehh?
21:49 PatZar: well the point is muzu still needs a bit breaks
21:49 PatZar: like 1/2
21:49 Regraz: Ok
21:49 Regraz: I will add more breaks!
21:49 PatZar: and probably the spread is acceptable
21:49 PatZar: if you add an oni
21:50 Regraz: ;w;;w;
21:50 Regraz: Oni
21:51 PatZar: if you want an oni from me just say it, i have a large free time
21:51 PatZar: :3
21:51 Regraz: Yeah I am very grateful if you can make a diff!
21:51 Regraz: :3
21:51 PatZar: okee
21:51 PatZar: lemee write down my task
21:52 PatZar: confusing with my desk
21:52 PatZar: lol
21:52 Regraz: Thank you!
21:52 PatZar: many papers
21:52 Regraz: ;w;
21:54 Regraz: Btw would you like to post your log in the forum?
21:54 Regraz: It helps a lot!
21:55 PatZar: sure, i will mod it too
21:55 PatZar: and i will post it with my difficult
21:55 Regraz: Thank you! :D
21:55 PatZar: :3 welcome
21:55 Regraz: OK!


second mod

[General]We should to follow about hp/od settings, it changes about a months ago
HP/OD
Kantan = 8/3
Futsuu = 7/4
Muzukashii = 6/5

as we talked before, muzu still needs more about 1/2 breaks, 1/1 breaks is too much in this muzu hahaha.

[Muzu]
as we talked before, to repetitive, but it's good muzu for me.
00:08:133 (2,3,4) - kat? that would be good if you follow the highest pitch at 00:08:273 (3) - .
00:12:590 (15,16,17) - same as above if you change that, for consistency.
00:19:276 (32,33,34,35) - dd k k, as i said, ox isn't that good but it's allowed in muzukashii.
00:23:733 (45,46,47,48) - ^ for consistency.
00:28:190 (58) - kat?, consistency if you change 00:08:133 (2,3,4) - .
00:32:647 (70) - you can change this as "kat" or "dd k k", but i prefer to change single kat.
00:34:456 (76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87) - about this, it's too harsh for me but since the bpm is low, it would be fine so its up on you :p.

kiai parts, there's no any breaks 1/1 or 1/2 or some kinds of breaks, so i prefer to delete some notes, and i can't mod above kiai, i can destroy your style xD

[Fuutsu]
where's Fuutsu xDDD, sorry bad pun :p

00:12:172 (10) - why use finish, since your muzu and kantan doesn't have it?, remove the finisher or add finisher in muzu.
umm, the futsuu is needed more breaks too, 1/1 break spams isn't cool for me :(, you can delete like 00:26:657 (39,40) - for more breaks, well for futsuu difficulty, that isn't need to follow a vocals or instruments too much, low difficulty like futsuu and kantan pointed to use more breaks not a beat one, so you can delete some notes here! :3

[Kantan]
i like 3/1 breaks here and nice structure kantan, well done

and here is my difficult http://puu.sh/oLJ6V/980ec72ea5.rar , hope you like it!
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OK will check and add tomorrow!
Thank u patzar
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Prop you

Hi Re-gz!

>General
* Wanna Change the hitsounding to Normal? Soft just well.. not really good at taiko play
* Change OD/HP Kantan to 3/8, Futsuu 4/7, and Muzu 5/6 https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Difficulty_appr ... _Game_Mode HP Should higher for lower diffs

>Muzukashii
from 00:07:715 - ~ until 00:16:629 - here I would point some emphasize suggestion
* 00:08:551 - change kat to follow the ukulele ( lol I like to say word of UKULELE xd ), if you applied that, 00:13:008 - do this for consistency
* 00:10:362 - I think this better to remove bcus you just need dk for 00:08:133 - this vocal and next. this for easir pattern at first duration
* 00:10:780 - same at first suggestion
* 00:14:401 - I give screenshot for this http://puu.sh/oLIUA.jpg it followed the percussion and 00:16:072 - this weird if you still keep this
* 00:21:086 - ddd k k d? it better than repeating thats dk again and 00:21:922 - why this kat bcus is high vocal, should emphasized
* 00:23:733 (45,46,47,48,49,50) - this calm part, so make http://puu.sh/oLJfR.jpg like this instead. is better to avoid overrated
* 00:26:657 - how about change this kat for variaton?
* 00:29:164 - this should fill note for consistency with previous part
* 00:30:000 - same 00:21:086 - at here but 00:30:835 - keep this as don
* 00:32:646 - kat this? for give emphasize the ukelele lelelelel
* 00:34:456 (76,77) - swap this bcus emphasize on 00:34:456 (76) - here, and 00:36:685 - . it fits for vocal and guitar
* 00:42:256 (97) - I think this should kat finisher, 00:41:977 - bcus this similar percussion with this
* 00:42:674 (98,99,100) - this sound like kd k on high percussion
* 00:44:206 (104,108) - kat this, bcus is high to be emphasized
* 00:46:016 - move to 00:46:573 - here? I think is better emphasize as pattern and also thats give rest at 00:45:877 - here
* 00:48:105 - delete this
* 00:51:448 - ^ same above
* 00:52:284 - I think nice this change kat bcus kkk is easir. these drum for not differ since high beat. so why not?
* 00:53:119 (135,139) - you can keep these for variaton since vocal is down :3
* 00:54:930 - same suggestion at 00:46:016 -here and 00:55:626 (144,145,146,147,148) - change this kdkkd, ddk not hurts since is slow bpm :3
* 00:57:019 - delete this
* 01:00:083 - should emphasize with kat
* 01:01:197 - this can keep since Cymbal to strong lol

>Futsuu *sorry lol I just remember I like modding oni and after is Muzu lol xd*
* 00:12:172 - this finisher for what? remove lol
* 00:23:871 - and 00:24:707 - delete these, 00:24:150 - and 00:24:429 - don these.
* 00:28:885 (42,43,44) - swap this for variation? this fits with vocal
* 00:33:621 (54) - move to 00:33:342 - here to follow the Instrument
* 00:41:977 - delete this for easir to hit finisher?

and later will continue, I have to go >_>

edit:
waht u doin pat? huh faker I first modded this.. please ur Oni dem (((:

okey, on Futsuu diff you can selfmod about spread or just looks about my suggestion style for next duration on Futsuu
and well Kantan nice, just need moar rest like patzar said. GLUCK!
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Surono wrote:

Prop you
what lol?


why not using some simple 1/4 pattern in Muzukashii instead.
like ddd/kkk instead of ddk/kkd/dk/kd

leaving this complex pattern for Oni would be nice.


Some example here:



00:52:005 (133,134,135) - kkk
00:52:702 (136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143) - same as the example above.
01:00:919 (166,167,168) - kkk
00:54:930 (144,145) - ddd

[]

If you don't mind you can use my Muzukashii, ofc you can just for reference. I don't care which one you choose.

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ArtistUnicode:Shakira
Creator:Regraz
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Source:
Tags:Laundry Service Tim Mitchell latin pop worldbeat
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no kd

Genotod Ura Oni
00:40:863 - teken coeg pake kat. ccd mengdatar :V
01:00:362 - kasih pola stream lah, lu kan high Oni

mana kkd? wah ga mengtaiko ini. mengrepeating :C

GLUCK!
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Surono wrote:

no kd

Genotod Ura Oni
00:40:863 - teken coeg pake kat. ccd mengdatar :V
01:00:362 - kasih pola stream lah, lu kan high Oni

mana kkd? wah ga mengtaiko ini. mengrepeating :C

GLUCK!
sir don't be so lazy, okkk,

@Regraz: after gather some more mod, you can ask Surono for a quick recheck.
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regraz <3 ganbatte :3
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Ascendance wrote:

regraz <3 ganbatte :3
and you should mod this :3
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Ascendance wrote:

regraz <3 ganbatte :3
Thank you! (will try some ctb later xDD

Prophecy wrote:

Ascendance wrote:

regraz <3 ganbatte :3
and you should mod this :3
Oh pls do not say that Prophecy
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Ascendance wrote:

regraz <3 ganbatte :3
mod my map please pls `L_` [2]
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Surono wrote:

Prop you

Hi Re-gz!

>General
* Wanna Change the hitsounding to Normal? Soft just well.. not really good at taiko play
* Change OD/HP Kantan to 3/8, Futsuu 4/7, and Muzu 5/6 https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Difficulty_appr ... _Game_Mode HP Should higher for lower diffs

>Futsuu *sorry lol I just remember I like modding oni and after is Muzu lol xd*
* 00:12:172 - this finisher for what? remove lol
* 00:23:871 - and 00:24:707 - delete these, 00:24:150 - and 00:24:429 - don these. ;w; why? I want to emphasize the absence of guitar here, making it distinct from other parts.
* 00:28:885 (42,43,44) - swap this for variation? this fits with vocal This is meant to keep consistent with 00:18:858 (23,24,25,26,27) - ukulelelele
* 00:33:621 (54) - move to 00:33:342 - here to follow the Instrument Keep consistent with former parts
* 00:41:977 - delete this for easir to hit finisher?

and later will continue, I have to go >_>

edit:
waht u doin pat? huh faker I first modded this.. please ur Oni dem (((:

okey, on Futsuu diff you can selfmod about spread or just looks about my suggestion style for next duration on Futsuu
and well Kantan nice, just need moar rest like patzar said. GLUCK!
Other all fixed!
Since Muzukashii has been changed to Oni I guess I will reconsider these mods !
Thank you!
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Surono wrote:

Ascendance wrote:

regraz <3 ganbatte :3
mod my map please pls `L_` [2]
sir you avatar... Charlotte , bbj and you.... :<
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yo

[Futsuu]

PatZar wrote:

umm, the futsuu is needed more breaks too, 1/1 break spams isn't cool for me :(, you can delete like 00:26:657 (39,40) - for more breaks, well for futsuu difficulty, that isn't need to follow a vocals or instruments too much, low difficulty like futsuu and kantan pointed to use more breaks not a beat one, so you can delete some notes here! :3
i agree with him, to keep spread betwen kantan

00:16:072 - delete ,sound like unsapped and you ignore this par t00:14:819 -
00:35:292 - move 00:36:406 - sound more enjoy and calm
00:37:521 - same ^

[Muzukashii]
00:17:743 - change kat, pitch different with 00:18:858 -
00:48:384 - change kat and delete 00:48:663 - sems like you following vocal in kiai
00:54:234 - change don ?
01:00:083 (147,148) - swap this ? different pitch in this part 01:00:083 -

just that from me
Good Luck
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Ron nice catch! fixed all

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Fixed all and updated!
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