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Ookami Akiko - Arumujika ac14.0V [Osu|Taiko]

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aquabluu
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 at 10:26:32 AM

Artist: Ookami Akiko
Title: Arumujika ac14.0V
Source: Taiko no Tatsujin
Tags: numujika 10 namco
BPM: 140
Filesize: 2625kb
Play Time: 01:37
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4.54 stars, 198 notes)
  2. Insane (5 stars, 312 notes)
  3. Normal (2.77 stars, 117 notes)
  4. Taiko Futsuu (4.34 stars, 231 notes)
  5. Taiko Muzukashii (4.8 stars, 344 notes)
  6. Taiko Oni (4.83 stars, 563 notes)
Download: Ookami Akiko - Arumujika ac14.0V
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Arumujika ac14.0V is the 'sequel' song to Numujika ac.10, both sounding like fun carnival music and had lots of hand-twisting streams. First seen on -of course- Taiko 14, and later on Taiko Wii 3. Has an impossible balloon note (but of course, it can't be shown here!)

Authentic Taiko Oni is 9* difficulty with 555 notes. All 3 Taiko diffs in this set are authentic.

...Oh, since I've done so much on this map I might as well introduce the character that pops out at every difficulty and is in the background. Alumu-chan is a personified character of the song's fun and playful quality, and is a small baby deer ( 'jika' can mean 'deer' in Japanese). The character was made by Mirai, from pixiv, as sprite art, and I made a vector version for the purpose of this map.

Credits to LuigiHann for the original things in my modified elements (from the Taiko skin).

EDIT: Tweaked the title bar to show up only on Taiko diffs. FULL REDOWNLOAD AFTER 23 MARCH 2011
mekadon_old
I really wished the balloon note is there! :3
wmfchris
Suggestion on solo BG - if possible put the song name bar at similar position like taiko diff, so that when ppl play insane in taiko mode they can still see the song name bar in that position?

[Taiko] Since this is authentic so skipped.

[Insane]
00:02:012 Use green time section (inherit previous timing option)
00:12:084 (4,5,6,7) - right 1 grid
00:!4:870 (3,4) - (3) left 1 grid, (4) down 1 grid
00:27:191 (5) - right 1 grid
00:37:370 (5) - ^
01:37:155 (3,4) - (3) right 1 grid, (4) down 1 grid

lol haven't seen smallest circle size for a long time =d

[Hard]
00:55:155 (1,2) - make them parallel
01:37:155 (3,4) - up 1 grid

[Normal]
fine in grid lv 2, but better resnap a bit in gird lv 3 =d

star~
Topic Starter
aquabluu
Done~
mekadon_old
[Normal]
00:19:155 (1) - Slider looks bleh
00:42:298 (3) - Looks better if put into (272,32)

[Hard]
00:14:013 (1) - Not aligned with (6)

[Insane]
00:15:727 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - <3
Topic Starter
aquabluu
Done.
gdeath
[Easy]
00:32:013 (2,3,1,2) - A bit hard to hit for the newplayers due to the beating on blue line.What about changing them to all 1/2 beats and might remove one note of them?

I feel fine to other stuffs.

/me shoots star.
Topic Starter
aquabluu
Done~
mekadon_old
Came back for a star
artpiggo
Normal
Maybe change it to easy , i think

Hard
00 33 619 is it good to add clap sound ?
00 50 655 maybe new color
00 51 190 maybe new color
01 08 119 maybe no whistle
01 08 440 whistle here instead
01 09 190 I think no whistle sound is better

Insane
maybe increase distance spacing will be better. Note shouldn't be too closed and your note is very small.
sound is very good
I can't help you much about insane. sorry :|
TTTTTTTTTTTT
Bule=suggestions

Normal

00:14:012(1) - whistle
00:14:440(2) - ^
00:14:869(3) - ^

00:32:440(1) - remove whistle
01:36:298(1) - whistle
01:36:726(2) - ^
01:37:155(3) - ^

01:37:155(3) - remove finish
01:37:583(4) - remove whistle

hard

00:14:012(1) - whistle
00:14:440(2) - ^
00:14:869(3) - ^

00:56:896(1) - remove clap at the beginning and end
00:58:583(1) - ^
01:00:298(1) - ^
01:01:690(4) - ^
01:36:298(1) - whistle
01:36:726(2) - ^
01:37:155(3) - ^


Insane

i think this diff is mapped loudly

you should adjust volume and remove some clap

like 00:02:012~00:03:726 and 00:08:869~00:10:583

you need to remove some clap


starrrrrr
Topic Starter
aquabluu
Really? I used the same mp3 file and volume of hitsounds for every difficulty, how can it be louder on Insane lol.

I can remove a few claps though but it won't sound as awesome (I thought it was too close to the Taiko authentic anyway)

Done.
lovhin456
Hey ~ Here's my mod >w<

General;
- That's BG ... low quality ;w; Use this one instead ??

Skin;
- Cute elements !! >w<

Normal;
- I like the hitsounds (:
- 01:37:583 >> End kiai time here

Hard;
- 00:15:726 >> I'm pretty sure your clap pattern goes "clap - no clap - no clap - clap" I think it changes around (5) or so, check it
- Same as Easy

Insane;
- Circle size bigger ??
- Same as Easy

* Star ~ (ノ>w<)ノ
Topic Starter
aquabluu
Hard;
- 00:15:726 >> I'm pretty sure your clap pattern goes "clap - no clap - no clap - clap" I think it changes around (5) or so, check it
Intended, for variety :3

And you just had to give me another reason to full submit for the 284198284685th time :P But that BG's way better than mine *changes*

Done!
Zekira
I'd actually rather like to see a BG that features Arumu, but that's not for me to decide. Lol.
nimi
Hello ^_^

General
Remove taiko from the tags. Since Taiko no Tatsujin is already source, when someone types taiko to find the map it'll already appear >_< (not sure about this tho).

Normal
00:20:869 (4) - this slider is a bit off, I'd start it at 00:20:655

Hard
00:56:870 (1,2,3,4) - uguu this sounds so weird D:

Insane
00:28:584 (5) - new combo
01:23:013 (1) - ninja spinner, isn't it? ><

I can't mod taiko, sorry. Good luck here ^-^
Topic Starter
aquabluu
01:23:013 (1) - ninja spinner, isn't it? ><
1. After a break time, so lots of time to prepare
2. Auto gets 2000 point bonus so it's legal lolololol :P

@Zekira: You know that actually sounds like a good idea. If someone can make a non-vector, no outline picture for me that'd be awesome. I'm only good with simple vector art~ (is trying to run for cutest map of 2011)
Lokamp
Normal
00:32:440 (1,2,1) - No new combo on the eats before and after the slider. And new combo on the slider!
00:42:298 (3) - Estethical comment... maybe this beat near the center of the screen will be fine! (or always under the previous beat)
01:08:870 (1,2) - move this a bit left, it can persuade novice players to catch the rhythm earlier...
01:33:727 (1,3) - new combo on 3rd instead of 1st orange

Hard
[AIMod advises] 2 un-snapped objects! Remember to check them.
00:05:013 (4) - clap here
00:11:870 (6) - as upper.
00:56:870 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - the placement of the final slider of those combo series (the 3rd one for the last 4 serie) is quite ugly to hear. Try to replace them with a single beat!
01:12:727 (6) - ...better shape?

Insane
01:10:155 (9) - no clap here!

Taiko Futsuu, Muzukashii, Oni
As good as the original ones. Neek Kantan too?

REALLY loved the Normal mode, it introduces quite well to the song's rhythms. Not to mention the cute deer-based storyboard, perhaps. Let this map's priority rise!
Zekira

aquabluu wrote:

@Zekira: You know that actually sounds like a good idea. If someone can make a non-vector, no outline picture for me that'd be awesome. I'm only good with simple vector art~ (is trying to run for cutest map of 2011)
You probably know more people than I do, so go find someone, lol

EDIT: So I'm looking at insane right now (not modding it yet). Something feels incredibly off here... or is it just me not being used to small circles?
EDIT2: OK now I found out what it is. The slider velocity. It's a bit low for an Insane, lol.

Also, looking at the BG again, I really think something more cartoon-y will really fit way, way better here; you already have Arumu everywhere, why not take a more cartoonified carnival from somewhere or what...? IDK where you'll find one though

Wait

[Insane]
May I suggest +1 Approach Rate?

EDIT3: ...OK sorry but I'm still watching Insane right now and I really, really think this needs to be improved a bit more. Sorry, but just personal opinion, lol.

EDIT4: ...okay, uh...
For such an energetic song, I really think the difficulties need to reflect such as well; right now I don't think they're as happy as what Arumujika is supposed to be portraying. The Normal diff. however, is VERY well made, I must say (I still think the slider velo is kinda low, lol)

EDIT5: Ah fuck it, let's just songstar this, lol

EDIT6:

[Normal]
I, however, fret on the usage of 1/4s here. Sure the song calls for it, but it's kinda annoying to hit for Normals.
May I suggest something: for those parts that have the beat like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/50885
Make the white-blue consecutives into sliders instead.
In case that's a bit confusing:

Topic Starter
aquabluu
Well if you can get to a full mod I appreciate your help a lot. I know your mods well :P What would you suggest for Insane?
Zekira
Um, oops, I kinda edited my previous post a lot, go read it again lol.

First, if you're willing to remap, you can start by turning the slider velocity up a notch.

In all honesty, Normal's slider velo of 1.00 actually fits as a slider velo for an Easy.

Try making the Insane something like 1.8, Hard as 1.6, Normal as 1.3. It should work well

I am also going to full mod this once I am confident that the maps are now spectacular. Lol.
Topic Starter
aquabluu
Well I'll get to work then. I have some free time tomorrow to map. Thanks.
Zekira
Another thing,

I actually like the beatpatterns here. Really, it's just the slidervelocity that I really kinda am a bit shaky on here. If you can keep the beatpatterns with increased slider velocity, it would be very great.

Also, try using jumps even at least once in a while. I think that's also something that Insane might want, too (don't overdo it however)
Gonzvlo
General
  1. The word "Taiko" doesn't need to go in the tags, since the word it's already in included in the source: "Taiko" no Tatsujin.
  2. Disable Countdown for the whole mapset because is not used.
Normal
  1. HP drain could be reduced one tick , since this is "Normal" but it's still the easiest diff for this mapset.
  2. 00:02:012 (3) - Why not start with finish :3 ?
  3. 00:11:441 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This sounds better this way, try it.
  4. 00:15:727 (1,2,3,4) - Lol I love this part.
  5. 00:22:584 (1,2,3,4) - As you can see this pattern's spacing is not consistent, the spacing used between (1) & (2) is different of the one used between (2) & (3) then it happens the same with (3) & (4), so it's kinda confusing while playing, this can not be fixed with the actual grid size, I suggest to use at least grid size 3 and fix it.
  6. 00:25:155 (4,1) - (1) is like under (4) it looks ugly, move it some grids away (using the same spacing).
  7. 00:29:441 (1,2,3,1,2,1) - The rhythm for this pattern is the same but you used a different for each one , It's not that it sounds too bad but you should keep the rhythm regular if the song sounds exactly the same, here's how it's supposed to be: (Also the New Combo goes on the next note, like it's showed in the pic)
  8. Ok one last suggestion for this diff, since the breaks are not placed after a main beat or next to a main beat I suggest to make the breaks rhythmical like this to create a nice effect, try it. (you just need to drag the word "break" in the timeline)
  9. I find this difficult very attractive and fun to play.
Hard
  1. 2 unsnapped objects
  2. 00:13:155 (3,4,5,6) - Why don't you just follow the normal spacing, I tried testing that pattern and it's a bit hard to read it because the taiko skin is not helping much (Don't remove the skin, I love it, Just consider changing the pattern)
  3. 00:16:048 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - I don't like how spacing variates when the notes are exactly placed at the same distance in the time line (End of (2) with (3), end of (4) with (5), end of (6) with (7)) Can you make spacing regular please?
  4. There are some more spacing inconsistencies but those are too Nazi and most of the players can go trough them w/o affecting the game play however the one listed above is really noticeable.
  5. 00:36:298 (1,2) - Those blankets can look much nicer if the slider border is not overlapping with the circle, Just in case you want to improve it.
  6. 01:33:727 (4,5,6,7) - The same suggestion about this pattern.
  7. 01:34:584 (1,2,3,4,5) - Omg, this is even harder to read. I suggest this
  8. The main problem of the last 2 pointed patterns, is that the notes are placed in one single stream of 1/2, and the spacing variates too much, I hope you agree with me about changing them.
  9. Oh and the same suggestion about the rhythmical breaks (The same for the next osu! difficulty)
Taiko Muzukashii
  1. 3 unsnapped objects.
Taiko Oni
  1. 21 unsnapped objects.
Insane
  1. Wow I find this difficulty very hard for me, Fun but hard. I have to say that I noticed 2 particular patterns that were really hard to read while playing:
  2. 00:29:441 (1,2,3,4,5,6) & 00:32:334 (8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) , You might want to check on them and make then a bit easier to read.
  3. 01:23:012 (1) - This spinner should start here: 01:22:583 . (It's a bit too short already so starting it earlier will make it more suitable)
Catchy Song, Fun Map plus Taiko original song, Have a shiny star.
Topic Starter
aquabluu
Are the unsnapped objects the 1/6 notes? Then there shouldn't be a problem because all the Taiko diffs are authentic. I've got a lot of fixing to do :P Thanks everyone.

EDIT: 1.6 SV on Hard is severely hampering my available space to place notes. I'll do it at 1.5.
arien666
[General]
Yup, some overlapped modding but unsnapped thing is not rankable <3

[Normal]
00:15:727 (1,2,3,4) - [Suggestion] Maybe, windmill shape would be better imo :3

[Hard]
00:04:584 (2,3,4,5) - If possible, why don't you avoid this pattern orz...?
00:05:441 (1) - [Nazi] :3
448,168,5441,6,0,B|320:136|256:33|256:33|192:136|64:168,1,480,0|8
00:25:155 (4,5,6) - [Nazi] spacing little orz
01:27:727 (1) - [Nazi] I think it's copy from 00:05:441 (1) :3 And da?

[Insane]
Fine

[Taiko Oni]
01:01:691 (1,1) - don kat desu :3 [Authentic] [35th part on wikihouse]



http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/51295 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/51296
:3
I should eat deer<<<
Zekira
I should eat deer<<<
...

*stabs*
arien666

Zekira wrote:

...

*stabs*
You can't stab my don-chan ;_;

*off-topic*
crystalsuicune

Zekira wrote:

I'd actually rather like to see a BG that features Arumu, but that's not for me to decide. Lol.
I can draw one.Maaaaybe.
Topic Starter
aquabluu

crystalsuicune wrote:

Zekira wrote:

I'd actually rather like to see a BG that features Arumu, but that's not for me to decide. Lol.
I can draw one.Maaaaybe.
I have one BG planned out too, but with so much going on it's been hard for me to draw it out :P You'd be a big help. Just one little thing though- no black lineart. Clashes with the thick black lines in the foreground.

EDIT: All fixed. SV raised to 1.3, 1.5, 1.8 and all osu! diffs remapped, with consideration to Gonzvlo, arien and Lokamp's mods.
vincerio
epic >w<b

here's my suggestions
[Overall]
Tag : removed "ac" (it'd already written in song title)

[Easy]
fine

[hard]
01:09:833(6) - snap in at 01:09:940 - remove whistle
01:10:155(7) - add whistle here
01:10:583(1) - snap in at 01:10:369 - remove new combo
01:24:298(1) - make it symestry? ( drag slider end down 1 grid and manage follow)

[Insane] circle size +1? why people need to play this map in the hard way(notes are vey small) with a same result score
00:57:637 (4,5) - snap forward 1/4 ( snap 4 at 00:57:512(red tick) - add clap > snap 5 at 00:57:726 white tick) - remove clap
00:59:119 (4,5) - snap forward 1//4 ( snap 4 at 00:59:226(red tick) -add clap > snap 5 at 00:59:440(white tick) - remove clap
Kamure
By Mod Request:

Easy
00:07:584 (4,5,6) - make a square formation after the next mod
00:08:870 (1) - align with the (3) before that

Hard
01:26:870 (2,3,4,5) - make it the same formation as before

Insane
00:04:798 (12) - new combo and remove at the next
00:11:655 (11) - ^
00:16:584 (4) - align with (1,2)
00:40:048 (4) - 1 grid to the right
01:27:083 (12) - same as 00:04:798

Great!! Star and Kudosu Star!!
kanpakyin
Time To mod>_<
================================
ReD=You should fix this
BluE=Suggestion only
*Major issue are in Bold

[General]
Offset +3ms is better imo
The slider is quite noisy…

[Standard osu part]:
[Normal]
00:07:583(4)-New combo here?
00:13:155(6.7)-Add clap sound here?
00:32:869(4)-Ugly slider..You can make it more beautiful
01:07:155(1)-weird rhythm here. It is not fit the music too much.
01:08:869(1)-^

[Hard]
00:04:583(2~5)-Do it like this? It is more beautiful Imo

00:12:512(2)-Remove whistle..it is a bit noisy if you use it here. Well, Feel free to ignore ^ ^
00:14:012(1)- Nazi here._. 1 grid up might better
00:53:226(4.1.2)-Make confuse to the player..better change the position of this!

[Insane]
00:03:726(11)-New combo here?
00;07:690(x)-add a note here?but you should consistent these notes after you add it
00:10:583(10)-New combo here?
01:26:012(11)-^
01:32:869(10)-^
01:36:298(1.2)-Whistle here?

[Taiko Part]:
Since this is authentic so skipped

**Map is fine for me..So..Take my star>_<
James2250
You could drag the break back to start at 01:17:440, it fits either way
I agree offset could use +3-5

Normal:
00:19:155 (1,2,3,4,5) - add some claps?
01:05:013 (2) -add clap to match one after this?

Hard:
00:17:441 (5,6,7,8,9) - might as well continue previous clap pattern here
01:12:298 (4,5) - space out slightly more

Taiko Muzukashii:
3 notes that aren't snapped, check AIMod

Taiko Oni:
Make sure all notes are snapped

Insane:
I wouldn't suggest having such small circles...you are welcome to keep them, I just recommend +1 to make it more enjoyable for players

(did mods on taiko and then saw they were authentic, oops)
Pretty much all suggestions, nicely done~
Have a star
Topic Starter
aquabluu
All done. Thanks everyone!
Crimmi
Modding, CrimmiStyle!!

[Normal]
~ Nothing.

[Hard]

00:25:801 (6,1) - align with (3).
01:15:086 (5) - align with (3).
01:27:301 (4) - align with (2).


[Insane]

01:15:301 (8) - align with (5).

*Star*
mekadon_old
A TAG2/4 seems too fit on this song lol xD
Zekira
[General]
Kinda annoyed how the color for Don is kinda blending in with the background... then I realized that you don't have custom colors, lol. (not required or anything... just made me do some unnecessary mods which I eventually erased)

[Normal]
Suggestion: Increase circle size by 1
00:20:015 (2,3) - really suggest you turn this into a slider
00:20:871 (4,5) - note-note-slider? Well it's just really my preference to not put 1/4 for Normals

Ah fuck it, this is fine.

[Hard]
Suggestion: Increase circle size by 1
00:08:873 (1,2) - I dunno, but it just kinda sounds weird to make the repeat on the red ticks; why not just put a single slider to repeat on white ticks?
00:57:836 (4) - repeat one more, then fix spacing
00:59:551 (5) - ^
01:01:265 (5) - ^
01:14:230 (2) - sounds weird.
01:31:159 (1,2) - I dunno, but it just kinda sounds weird to make the repeat on the red ticks; why not just put a single slider to repeat on white ticks?

[Insane]
Wow crap I didn't know it'd still look like a clickfest... looks better with the larger spacing and circles, however.
This map exploits the techniques that I'm having problems at when playing osu!, so I shuffled through this quite a number of times just to see if it was fine... lol.
I like how this map serves as a sightreading practice. I like it.

[Taiko Oni]
I really wish the 444 was there ._. guess my request of customizable denden presses didn't go through :/
galvenize
[General]

Please, change one of the reds into another colour.

And err... I'm truely sorry but I can't find any problems with this map, nor do I have any suggestions that may help. It's plenty fine as it is.

Have my star.
Topic Starter
aquabluu
00:08:873 (1,2) - I dunno, but it just kinda sounds weird to make the repeat on the red ticks; why not just put a single slider to repeat on white ticks?
My way of playing around with the order of the notes, like the two streams at the beginning of Taiko Oni. Still makes some sense rhythmically, so I'll keep this.

And as for the background, I'll be changing it eventually into something less red.

Done.
Vergence
ModdinG tIME

Overall: Why not add drum hitsounds?

Normal
00:21:051 (5) - Maybe move this closer so the spacing is equal
00:58:586 (1) - Remove new combo
Nothing major :D

Hard
00:17:765 (6) - Make this nearer to 5 and change the spacing of 7,8 and 9 too
Some of the pattern are a bit confusing :o

Insane
00:07:372 (5) - Make this face 6
Overall, this diff is overmapped :o
________________________________________
Nevermind, havva star!
Zekira
Overall, this diff is overmapped :o
No, fuck you :<
Topic Starter
aquabluu

DragonSparta wrote:

Overall: Why not add drum hitsounds?
Well isn't that what the Taiko skin is for? :P

Anyway, done fixing. GODDAMN FULL REUPLOAD.
Frank7654321
I love this song best in the AC series,star!
arien666
[Normal]
00:05:015 (2) - [Nazi] Adjust this note without grid snap to make same distance :3?
00:42:729 - Adjust this break's start point into 00:43:158
01:16:801 - Adjust this break's start point into 01:17:443 (Since you adjusted 1st break :3)

[Hard]
00:18:301 (7,8,9) - [Nazi Suggestion] Disappointed ;_;(JK) Just adjust some distance :3
00:42:729 - Same as [Normal]
01:01:693 (6,7) - I wonder why sudden 1/4 stack after 1/4 short sliders :3
01:17:443 - Same as [Normal]

[Insane]
7 notes are UNSNAPPED :3 Go fix them XD [Check with Ctrl + Shift + A]
00:14:872 (3) - [Nazi] How about move 1 grid left?
00:15:300 (4) - [Nazi] How about move 1 grid down?
00:42:729 - Same as [Normal]
01:17:015 - Same as [Normal]
01:37:157 (3) - [Nazi] How about move 1 grid right?
01:37:585 (4) - [Nazi] How about move 1 grid down?

[Taiko Muzukashii]
01:31:799 (6) - UNSNAPPED
01:32:549 (2) - ^



:3
Wonder but whatever orz
[Gives some oppotunity to Zekira]

/me runs<<<
Topic Starter
aquabluu
01:01:693 (6,7) - I wonder why sudden 1/4 stack after 1/4 short sliders :3
Believe me, I tried. Either it ruined the formation of the next 5 notes or so, or it would cause 5, 6, 7 and 1 to overlap in a really ugly way. Done everything else.
arien666

aquabluu wrote:

01:01:693 (6,7) - I wonder why sudden 1/4 stack after 1/4 short sliders :3
Believe me, I tried. Either it ruined the formation of the next 5 notes or so, or it would cause 5, 6, 7 and 1 to overlap in a really ugly way. Done everything else.
Oh okay then :3
[Since I cared about difficulty]

Have a bubble star-symbol atm orz
Since Zekira would mod this again <3
v2b
Zekira
Have a bubble star-symbol atm orz
Since Zekira would mod this again <3
Uh, be sure to remind me, lol
Topic Starter
aquabluu
Alumu-chan sig will remind you every time you visit the forum :P
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