This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, 15 December 2016 at 4:08:34 PM

Artist: CLIFF EDGE
Title: Endless Tears feat. Nakamura Maiko
Tags: Sweet Grande 2 mixed by DJ GEORGIA the best You're the only one of love あなたの声が聞こえる
BPM: 99
Filesize: 7188kb
Play Time: 04:14
Difficulties Available:

1. Easy - 9Key (1.31 stars, 682 notes)
2. Hard - 9Key (2.42 stars, 2194 notes)
3. Medium - 9Key (1.83 stars, 1387 notes)

Download: CLIFF EDGE - Endless Tears feat. Nakamura Maiko
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9k needs more love!

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Hihi! From cute queue :3

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Nice map. Good luck!

Kivicat wrote:

Hihi! From cute queue :3

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9K Hard

00:04:767 - This sound seems to belong to main melody, so add note. Also, i suggest distance stream 1-3-5-7-9 for some balance. I think it is the same as the 3 notes before it, so I left it out
00:07:495 (7495|5) - 4 for balance. Still good for highlighting same pitch here. Done

Some notes in following section are extremely ghost, better delete them:

1. 00:12:949 (12949|2) - Done
2. 00:17:798 (17798|2) - Done
3. 00:19:010 (19010|4) - I think there is a note here
4. 00:22:040 (22040|5) - Done
5. 00:23:858 (23858|4) - Done
6. 00:25:070 (25070|3) - Done
7. 00:26:283 (26283|2) - Done
8. 00:27:192 (27192|2) - (dunno, i think, i hear piano there at 25% speed, but it's too weak anyway) I think there is too, I'll just leave it in

00:30:525 (30525|3,30828|1) - Move forward to nearest 1/6 line. And make another pattern, considering this rhythm structure (3-4-1-2, for example). I don't think changing the rhythm is necessary as it would make it hard to time as well but I changed the pattern to a 4-5-2-3 so yours moved to the right
00:37:646 (37646|3,37949|4,37949|6,38252|5) - Maybe 3-46-7? Did it except with a 47 because I added an extra note 1/4 after on 6
00:40:980 - Maybe add note for piano? Done
00:54:616 (54616|4,54767|3,54919|2,55070|1,55222|2) - I think, alternation would fit better here (it's like 3-6-3-6-3 or maybe even 3-5-3-5-3). Did 3-6-3-6-3
In following section, from 00:55:222 - till 01:14:616 - you might follow piano completely. For example, there are notes in first bar: 00:55:373 -, 00:55:980 -. And the same for all following bars. I prefer to emphasise the chords since the other notes are very soft
01:18:101 - There's synth sound that you follow, right? Added
01:19:313 - Something similar. Added
01:20:222 (80222|6) - Here's only hat, you ignore it in this section. Removed
01:29:010 - Synth. Added
01:41:434 (101434|7) - What's this for? There is a high note here, I believe it is an octave above the notes in 7 afterwards
01:44:010 - Strong piano sound, maybe add note? Done
01:50:828 - Piano + kick? Why one note? Added a note
02:20:828 - Add for piano Done
02:26:737 - Here's chord, i think, add note. Added
02:55:070 (175070|0) - Single bass LN with uncomfortable timing. Is it necessary here? I prefer to keep the LN because the sound is quite significant and it kinda emphasises the change that comes in the next bar, if that makes sense
03:07:949 - Piano + synth, add note. Didn't add this one because I didn't map the high pitched synth sounds on beats 2 and 4 in this part (I think, this was mapped a couple of weeks ago but I chose to follow voice here)
03:12:798 - ^ Same reason as above
03:15:828 - You might add LN here. I don't feel this is necessary
03:21:130 - Add note. Piano + synth or piano chord, i can't understand, but it needs one more note anyway. Added
03:25:979 - ^ I don't think there is another note here
04:04:918 - Missed note (clap + piano or synth). Added, I forgot to map the clap but I hitsounded the piano note with a clap...
04:11:433 - Add note, chord or piano + synth (high pitch). Added

9K Easy

00:08:707 - Add note. Added in 3 but I am not sure if that would be too hard to play for an Easy (tbh I still put it there because there are still harder patterns later)
00:44:010 (44010|5) - 2 for balance. Done

00:52:040 (52040|3) - Ohhhh, dat note. If you want to follow low pitch track, try following:

1. 00:50:980 (50980|4) - move to 00:50:828 -
2. 00:51:283 (51283|7) - delete
3. 00:51:889 - add note
4. 00:53:404 (53404|4) - move to 00:53:252 -, 6th column
5. 00:53:707 (53707|5) - delete

If you make all changes above, you can see the idea of these 2 bars layering easily. Notes each 1/2 line would be okay too, but not with that awkward blue line note. I just changed it to have notes only on the 1/2 lines

01:44:919 (104919|5,105373|3,105828|5) - Move 2 columns left for balance. I moved it to be a 5-2-5 because the notes have the same pitch gap between them
02:14:464 (134464|3) - Move 1/4 lower. Mapping for low pitch track is not appropriate here, so don't try to follow same advices as above. I did the same as before
02:25:525 - You might add LN for reversed cymbal (1st column, end at 02:26:131 -). Added
02:37:495 (157495|3,157949|7,158707|3) - No, no and no once more. That's not appropriate for easy diff. You can delete LN in 8 and add some notes.
Same till 02:52:495 (172495|1) - Fair enough. I simply changed it to a normal note but kept the whistle hitsound. Do you think that is appropriate or should I remove it completely and rearrange the string notes?
03:56:130 - You can make 1/2 length LNs from here till the end (04:14:615 - ). That means, from each red line to nearest white line. Then you need to change vocal LNs to simple notes or delete all notes for vocal. You can also add stream 04:14:767 - 04:14:918 - 04:15:070 - then.
If you want to leave it as it is, then at least add LN from 04:03:100 - till 04:05:524 - (vocal). Also you can add LN 04:04:918 - 04:05:524 - and 04:14:615 - 04:15:221 - (reversed cymbal). I left it as it is and added the long note. Didn't add LN for reversed cymbals though and they start 1/2 a beat earlier, just didn't really like them there. Also the reason I chose not to go with the first option was because it would be difficult to accurately time the 1/2 LNs

Nice map. Good luck!

Thanks for the mod and star! Updated (with a half complete Medium diff)

hannanos wrote:

Kivicat wrote:

02:37:495 (157495|3,157949|7,158707|3) - No, no and no once more. That's not appropriate for easy diff. You can delete LN in 8 and add some notes.
Same till 02:52:495 (172495|1) - Fair enough. I simply changed it to a normal note but kept the whistle hitsound. Do you think that is appropriate or should I remove it completely and rearrange the string notes?

Ofc, now it's good. LN + simple note is one of basic patterns and all those notes must be clear for player. You still follow 2 instrument tracks, but you don't force player to concentrate on both of them simultaneously, like you did before with that advanced LN pattern.

Cool, I just was unsure whether that sound should be represented with a single note but it seems okay

hii

Kruzon wrote:

hii

hard

column format is as following: 1 l 2 l 3 l 4 l 5 l 6 l 7 l 8 l 9

pitch and consistency
02:04:313 (124313|7) - move to 3, pitch wise it sound just right Done
02:04:616 (124616|2) - move to 9 I find this too awkward to play, moved it to 1 instead
02:04:919 (124919|3) - move to 5 Done

02:20:070 (140070|0,140070|3,140070|5) - consider reducing its note density since you use 2 notes on equally loud sound 02:18:252 (138252|2,138252|7) - and 02:20:525 (140525|0,140525|8) - . If you really gonna emphasizes the drum+piano with 3 notes then there's many section you could do so but i suggest keep it 2 notes I removed a note from that chord

02:22:495 (142495|0,142495|3,142495|6) - using 3 notes here are okay, it's like starting a new paragraph in essay, or in charting map, you could say base sequence. it still depends on quantity of instruments presence, mind you I decided to remove 1 note since it isn't really the start of a phrase (I'm counting them one as 4 bars long)
02:26:131 (146131|0,146131|5) - ^

02:27:949 (147949|2,147949|7) - shift them 1 time to the right, column 9 seems quite lonely
02:28:252 (148252|5) - move to 7 for gap consistency with 02:27:949 (147949|8,147949|3) -
02:28:404 (148404|4,148555|3) - shift them 1 time to the right
02:28:707 (148707|4) - swap to left hand side, move to column 1 Done all of this block

at this timing 02:30:070 (150070|6) - , i suggest this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4578581 inheriting and mirroring the previous pattern flow 02:29:464 (149464|2,149464|6,149616|1,149767|5,149767|0) - I left it as it is because the piano sound is rather noticeable so I decided to keep it correctly pitched

02:44:161 (164161|8) - rearrange based on appropriate pitch, i leave it in your hand I moved it to 8

optional: personally i would map like this, but means im imposing my style to your map which might damaged it. you decides I didn't end up doing this, but instead just moved 02:47:343 (167343|7) - to 9 because that lane was empty for a while

02:46:434 (166434|1,166434|3) - press ctrl + h
02:46:586 (166586|5,166737|4) - shift them 1 time to the left
if you follow this optional, then
02:47:192 (167192|0,167343|2) - press ctrl + g, and
02:47:343 (167343|7) - move to 9
02:48:101 (168101|4) - move to 1

optional 2: starting at this time 02:50:373 (170373|3) - , Decided to leave it as it is

part 1: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4578729
part 2: just move 02:51:737 (171737|7) - to 5

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i suggest you follow flow rather than pitching 02:56:434 (176434|6,176434|4,176889|6,176889|4) - , try moving 02:56:434 (176434|6,176434|4) - 1 time to the left Done and added for when the same melody sequence repeats

03:11:131 (191131|2) - no sound here, consider deleting it, and since this break your stair pattern, might as well follow different stair. so,
03:11:586 (191586|5) - you can move this to column 3, following this stair 03:10:980 (190980|4,191283|3,191586|2) -
03:11:737 (191737|4) - Did all of this, the note was accidental
* it might be intentional from what I see throughout your map, so i won't delve further.

start at this timing 02:26:737 (146737|1) - , suggest https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4578912 pitch + flow Didn't change this, partially because I just like having the new phrase start with a note in 1 for the bass

02:30:980 (150980|3,150980|5,150980|2,151283|3,151283|5,151283|1,151586|6,151586|2,151586|3) - despite following pitch, it looks rigid and boring, suggest: starting at this time 02:30:676 (150676|1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4578935 Done
* 02:32:192 (152192|0,152192|3) - add 1 more note, new base sequence Didn't add the note however to keep consistent with previous since this isn't too significant to me

02:02:495 (122495|3,122495|4) - open reference mode and check your normal difficulty, you might want to do something for note density at current time @ normal difficulty Decided to leave this bit because I was having throughout this klai 1 note for the rap and 2 notes for voice melody

* I'll stop here, well it's a very good map and I hardly find flaw with pitch, simply amazing
* good luck with your map c:

Thanks for the mod and star! Updated the map

Hi hannanos!! Why didn't i have you added yet ;n;

This map has got a good feeling for pitch relevancy and lots of creative consistency, like the sections where every vocal is represented by two note that have one blank lane in between (eg 00:30:980 - in Hard) or when the same sound uses the same lane each time. There's also a nice diff curve in Easy as you introduce 1/4 snap and additional layers near the end. Patterns are fun too, and you clearly made creative choices when choosing which layer/patterns to chart. The thing that impresses me the most is that you used the whistle hitsound and it actually sounds good somehow ????

In several parts I felt unsure of what you were charting... that might be because the instruments in the bg are so quiet, but anyway there seemed to be kinda arbitrary breaks or two-note chords in the stream sometimes. Also in Insane, the patterns of the streams seemed kinda messy. for example, there's a random trill at 03:56:585 (236585|6,236736|7,236888|6,237040|7) - and often it randomly jumps between unbroken streams and really jumpy streams like 04:09:161 -

tbh you could rank it exactly like this and it'd be a great map. I don't usually write this much on a mod (sorry) but I'm vomiting a bunch of feedback bc i feel close to u as a ftb charter ;p;

Ok here's the actual suggestions lol

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[Easy]
00:09:161 - add note? I think you put one note bc the piano melody seems to drop out, but after having two-note chords on every other beat it seems awkward to make the last beat a single note, esp. bc it's accented in the music as the new instruments come in
00:10:980 - using two notes to represent a sound like this reminds me of ftb-style charting ;p; (that's not a bad thing i just wanted to mention it)
00:22:495 - this fluid layer changing (both here and all throughout Hard) is also something you don't see very often on osu. Love it
01:09:161 - that note in lane 7 looks like it's on accident... it might represent the little dong sound but that sound isn't charted anywhere else in this section
02:07:343 - should this be a jack? for the rest of this section you used jacks to represent the rapper saying LOVE U, so this one feels out of place
03:50:373 - same
[Medium]
00:08:707 - personally I don't think it matters, but fyi Easy has a note here and Medium and Hard don't
00:17:040 - i think there's a note missing here, but you did the same thing at 00:21:889 - so maybe it's on purpose lol
00:30:980 - omg it's left/right hand layering!! That never happens on osu. The ftb nostalgia man
01:34:010 - and is this.... copypasta??? For whatever reason people on osu don't like copypasta but i use it constantly in my maps. FTB MAPPERS UNITE
01:52:798 - and 01:53:101 - maybe add a notes here for consistency with 02:02:495 -
03:35:827 - and 03:36:130 - same
03:56:736 (236736|3,236736|7,236888|2,236888|5,237040|6,237040|1) - i'm not 100% sure what you're charting in this section but based on the rest of the patterns these shouldn't all be doubles
[Hard]
00:33:404 - and 01:36:434 - missing note for vocals/kick?
00:47:495 - and 01:50:525 - dunno why there are three notes here
02:18:858 (138858|2) - I don't think there's a kick here but you added an extra note with a kick hitsound
02:27:040 - add note for kick?

the chorus at 00:30:980 - sounds the same as the chorus at 01:34:010 - so maybe you should put a kiai there too
There are some unexpected uninherited timing points at 00:30:980 - and 03:17:040 - ... idk if you added them for a reason, but i bet they'll get you disqualified in a jiffy

That's all! Good luck

Nivrad00 wrote:

Hi hannanos!! Why didn't i have you added yet ;n;

This map has got a good feeling for pitch relevancy and lots of creative consistency, like the sections where every vocal is represented by two note that have one blank lane in between (eg 00:30:980 - in Hard) or when the same sound uses the same lane each time. There's also a nice diff curve in Easy as you introduce 1/4 snap and additional layers near the end. Patterns are fun too, and you clearly made creative choices when choosing which layer/patterns to chart. The thing that impresses me the most is that you used the whistle hitsound and it actually sounds good somehow ????

In several parts I felt unsure of what you were charting... that might be because the instruments in the bg are so quiet, but anyway there seemed to be kinda arbitrary breaks or two-note chords in the stream sometimes. Also in Insane, the patterns of the streams seemed kinda messy. for example, there's a random trill at 03:56:585 (236585|6,236736|7,236888|6,237040|7) - and often it randomly jumps between unbroken streams and really jumpy streams like 04:09:161 -

tbh you could rank it exactly like this and it'd be a great map. I don't usually write this much on a mod (sorry) but I'm vomiting a bunch of feedback bc i feel close to u as a ftb charter ;p;

Ok here's the actual suggestions lol

1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9
[Easy]
00:09:161 - add note? I think you put one note bc the piano melody seems to drop out, but after having two-note chords on every other beat it seems awkward to make the last beat a single note, esp. bc it's accented in the music as the new instruments come in Added in 9
00:10:980 - using two notes to represent a sound like this reminds me of ftb-style charting ;p; (that's not a bad thing i just wanted to mention it) I'll call it the hannanos special
00:22:495 - this fluid layer changing (both here and all throughout Hard) is also something you don't see very often on osu. Love it Yay
01:09:161 - that note in lane 7 looks like it's on accident... it might represent the little dong sound but that sound isn't charted anywhere else in this section Removed for consistency
02:07:343 - should this be a jack? for the rest of this section you used jacks to represent the rapper saying LOVE U, so this one feels out of place Moved it to 5 (lane is empty), I tend to chart pitch too strictly in places ._.
03:50:373 - same Done
[Medium]
00:08:707 - personally I don't think it matters, but fyi Easy has a note here and Medium and Hard don't Added a note in both diffs
00:17:040 - i think there's a note missing here, but you did the same thing at 00:21:889 - so maybe it's on purpose lol Yeah it is intentional
00:30:980 - omg it's left/right hand layering!! That never happens on osu. The ftb nostalgia man I love my LH/RH layering, can't actually map without any of it
01:34:010 - and is this.... copypasta??? For whatever reason people on osu don't like copypasta but i use it constantly in my maps. FTB MAPPERS UNITE You are correct I sometime change a few notes here and there to give it variation (single note variations lol)
01:52:798 - and 01:53:101 - maybe add a notes here for consistency with 02:02:495 - Added a note to the second time but not the first because the melody is part of the previous phrase
03:35:827 - and 03:36:130 - same ^
03:56:736 (236736|3,236736|7,236888|2,236888|5,237040|6,237040|1) - i'm not 100% sure what you're charting in this section but based on the rest of the patterns these shouldn't all be doubles Fixed, and I'm charting the piano/synth sounds where I feel is needed
[Hard]
00:33:404 - and 01:36:434 - missing note for vocals/kick? Yes, interestingly I was looking at those exact two chords yesterday and decided to sweep it under the carpet
00:47:495 - and 01:50:525 - dunno why there are three notes here Kept the chord because I feel there is a piano synth chord or significant sound
02:18:858 (138858|2) - I don't think there's a kick here but you added an extra note with a kick hitsound Fixed
02:27:040 - add note for kick? Added

the chorus at 00:30:980 - sounds the same as the chorus at 01:34:010 - so maybe you should put a kiai there too True, although I'm gonna keep the klai the same as in the ranked CtB mapset
There are some unexpected uninherited timing points at 00:30:980 - and 03:17:040 - ... idk if you added them for a reason, but i bet they'll get you disqualified in a jiffy I added them because before those timing points there is a bar in 2/4 time but I can't set 2/4 measures using the timing tool so I have to add extra timing points to keep the bar lines in correct places

That's all! Good luck

Thanks for the mod! Gotta preserve that FtB mapping style

Updated the map

threw 4 stars. Call a BN +12 SP req is now met

also my style is no longer FtB. sad

maybe kami, he likes anti meta. Not to mention, this is 9k.

Lenfried- wrote:

threw 4 stars. Call a BN +12 SP req is now met

also my style is no longer FtB. sad

maybe kami, he likes anti meta. Not to mention, this is 9k.

Thanks! I'll look around for either a BN or another experienced 9k mapper (does this exist?) for a check

9k needs endless Love

Hello there, I came to do a NM due to your request.

[General]
BG: 1366 x 768 Ok
AI mod: It says that you have started a kiai timing before 15 seconds passing after a kiai timing's end.
Audio: 192 kbps Ok
Offset check: Ok
Etc: .

Columns: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 |

[Hard]
00:00:677 (677|2) - i personally think that moving this note to col 1 is better for handspreading
00:03:101 (3101|6) - this note to col 9 for same reason OR place 00:04:313 (4313|6,4313|2) - these in columns 2 and 8
I feel that the piano sounds from 00:04:313 to 00:04:919 should not be ignored in my personal opinion. The sounds in that section are like the link for these notes 00:04:919 (4919|5,5070|6,5222|7,5373|8) . So, i recommend adding notes in 00:04:464 - column 3, 00:04:616 - column 4 and 00:04:767 - column 5.
00:05:525 (5525|2) - moving it to col 1 looks better for me.
00:07:495 (7495|3) - in stead of using only note to represent this, i recommend using 2 notes in this way. 00:07:495 (7495|3) - move it to column 3 and add a note in column 1, it looks good and keeps the consistency of using 2 notes for the piano sound.
00:08:404 - How about this? http://puu.sh/oByRg/7bd83a292c.jpg . The reason i put it this way is because i felt that it needed to have a higher noterate than the medium difficulty, and 00:09:161 (9161|0) - for the low key sound making it 3 notes.
00:16:434 (16434|0) - I feel that the column 1 looks pretty empty after this timing, how about putting the notes like this? Example: http://puu.sh/oBziD/9c004c4cbf.jpg
00:54:616 (54616|2,54919|2) - how about adding a note to both columns in column 1? there is a base sound there.
01:03:707 (63707|1) - it has the same sound as 01:03:404 with bass sound, i recommend adding notes in columns 5 and 8
01:52:192 (112192|0,112798|1) - I feel that using 3 notes would be more adaptable to the song rather than using LNs to represent the cymbal sound, i recommend adding notes at columns 1 and 9 for 01:52:192 (112192|4,112798|4) - these two timings.
If you applied the previous mod, 01:53:404 (113404|2) - move this to column 1
02:25:525 - I think that this timing is good to represent it with a LN, so how about this? http://puu.sh/oBAiu/8d5a6498c6.jpg
02:25:980 - if you are following the vocals, you should add a note here, adding a note in column 4 makes a good pattern.
02:54:919 - I do not agree with putting 3 notes here, there is no bass sound nor kick sound in this timing, i can see your intention of vocal + 2 notes for these timings 02:55:222 (175222|6,175525|8,175828|7,176131|6) . However, i do not think that the sound is strong enough to be 3 notes. I recommend deleting only 1 note
03:15:828 - Adding a long note in this timing to represent the other sound woldn't disturb the play, add a long note in column 6 and end it here 03:16:434
03:35:221 (215221|0,215827|1) - if you applied the mod to use 3 notes in total to represent the cymbal, here it is too.

I guess my mod is done here, good luck on getting it ranked

- R e b a - wrote:

Hello there, I came to do a NM due to your request.

[General]
BG: 1366 x 768 Ok
AI mod: It says that you have started a kiai timing before 15 seconds passing after a kiai timing's end. Yep, should be ok though since the ranked ctb mapset has the same klai
Audio: 192 kbps Ok
Offset check: Ok
Etc: .

Columns: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 |

[Hard]
00:00:677 (677|2) - i personally think that moving this note to col 1 is better for handspreading I prefer to keep it pitched here
00:03:101 (3101|6) - this note to col 9 for same reason OR place 00:04:313 (4313|6,4313|2) - these in columns 2 and 8 Same reason as above
I feel that the piano sounds from 00:04:313 to 00:04:919 should not be ignored in my personal opinion. The sounds in that section are like the link for these notes 00:04:919 (4919|5,5070|6,5222|7,5373|8) . So, i recommend adding notes in 00:04:464 - column 3, 00:04:616 - column 4 and 00:04:767 - column 5. It was mentioned previously as well so I think I better add it. Didn't use your column suggestions though because I didn't take the previous suggestion, so there would otherwise be a jack
00:05:525 (5525|2) - moving it to col 1 looks better for me. Pitching as before
00:07:495 (7495|3) - in stead of using only note to represent this, i recommend using 2 notes in this way. 00:07:495 (7495|3) - move it to column 3 and add a note in column 1, it looks good and keeps the consistency of using 2 notes for the piano sound. I moved the note to 3, agree that it looks better. However I did not make it a 2 note chord because this particular sound only has 1 piano note played, where the others have 2 (or multiple)
00:08:404 - How about this? http://puu.sh/oByRg/7bd83a292c.jpg . The reason i put it this way is because i felt that it needed to have a higher noterate than the medium difficulty, and 00:09:161 (9161|0) - for the low key sound making it 3 notes. I do think that is nice, however I feel that pattern is too hard for right thumb users. I will look into this bit again later to see if I should reshuffle it
00:16:434 (16434|0) - I feel that the column 1 looks pretty empty after this timing, how about putting the notes like this? Example: http://puu.sh/oBziD/9c004c4cbf.jpg It is a bit empty but I prefer to leave it
00:54:616 (54616|2,54919|2) - how about adding a note to both columns in column 1? there is a base sound there. I feel that single notes are enough because I have been using single notes for those bass/percussion sounds throughout, just for consistency
01:03:707 (63707|1) - it has the same sound as 01:03:404 with bass sound, i recommend adding notes in columns 5 and 8 Similar to above, just keeping single note for bass (using double notes for piano chords in this section)
01:52:192 (112192|0,112798|1) - I feel that using 3 notes would be more adaptable to the song rather than using LNs to represent the cymbal sound, i recommend adding notes at columns 1 and 9 for 01:52:192 (112192|4,112798|4) - these two timings. I like this. Added to this diff (not easy and medium though, it feels nicer when there's more stuff in between the clashes). Also this let me rearrange some of the notes to make a really nice pattern to both look at and play
If you applied the previous mod, 01:53:404 (113404|2) - move this to column 1 Done
02:25:525 - I think that this timing is good to represent it with a LN, so how about this? http://puu.sh/oBAiu/8d5a6498c6.jpg I added a LN in 4 but didn't follow that particular pattern
02:25:980 - if you are following the vocals, you should add a note here, adding a note in column 4 makes a good pattern. Following piano here
02:54:919 - I do not agree with putting 3 notes here, there is no bass sound nor kick sound in this timing, i can see your intention of vocal + 2 notes for these timings 02:55:222 (175222|6,175525|8,175828|7,176131|6) . However, i do not think that the sound is strong enough to be 3 notes. I recommend deleting only 1 note Done
03:15:828 - Adding a long note in this timing to represent the other sound woldn't disturb the play, add a long note in column 6 and end it here 03:16:434 It doesn't feel necessary in my opinion
03:35:221 (215221|0,215827|1) - if you applied the mod to use 3 notes in total to represent the cymbal, here it is too. Done, I honestly love that after rearranging to give this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5152939

I guess my mod is done here, good luck on getting it ranked

Thanks for the mod! Sorry for the long wait

Updated with a few other changes (I forgot to hitsound an entire klai section)

Hard
00:28:555 (28555|1) - change to LN, more impactful.

Medium
00:30:980 (30980|0,30980|5) - Only one note has clap hitsound, why not both? (queue memes). Just in general actually, why not both notes? Maybe someone would miss the hit sounded note and it'll be less impactful. This happens in both kiai times (first and second chorus). I have not checked for other diffs, but I assume you haven't changed because lazy

01:18:101 - This void, you can put LN for the vamping of the viola in volume.
01:27:792 - Same as the previous point, some void, can chuck in an LN for the viola.

Here is some metadata i've checked

It seems that it was originally a single according to Wikipedia although this is a sketchy source although the reference listed http://www.spaceshowertv.com/search/det ... 85135&ch=0 as some sort of single.

https://cliff-edge.com/discography/works The first appearance at a work (2011) is shown in their official site citing it as a compilation under:
Sweet Grande 2 mixed by DJ GEORGIA (can add to tags)

https://cliff-edge.com/discography/album It's also shown that it's under greatest hits (2013) under:
THE BEST ～You’re the only one～ (add to tags)

But also recently at the 8th album:
あなたの声が聞こえる (add it as well i suppose)

I'll check the actual diffs later

will u be my valentine?

Easy:
01:44:010 (104010|4,104161|5) - Shift over 1 lane to the right (so lane 6 and 7). It makes it easier and less awkward for inexperienced players like me that have trouble transitioning from thumb to finger quickly when by itself, which I think is needed for an easy difficulty.
03:04:919 (184919|4) - Put it somewhere else on the right side (lane 6 to 9). Awkward for newbie players like myself to play notes close together like that after pressing the note in between so soon.

Medium:
00:04:313 (4313|5,4313|3) - Spread these out a bit (preferably to columns 3 and 7) or move it up higher (columns 6 and 8). Weird to have the notes close together by itself while being placed in the middle for a chord sounding like that in my opinion.

maybe after all this we can go to the zoo and see some chimpanzees

Melt3dCheeze wrote:

Hard
00:28:555 (28555|1) - change to LN, more impactful. Synth section that I was mapping prior to this chord has a short note here, so I feel that is better represented by a single short note

Medium
00:30:980 (30980|0,30980|5) - Only one note has clap hitsound, why not both? (queue memes). Just in general actually, why not both notes? Maybe someone would miss the hit sounded note and it'll be less impactful. This happens in both kiai times (first and second chorus). I have not checked for other diffs, but I assume you haven't changed because lazy shhhhhhhhh. Although I think I only put one note in general because I've only used one note to represent the bass/percussion, which is the layer represented by these hitsounds

01:18:101 - This void, you can put LN for the vamping of the viola in volume. Done, although on the white tick instead
01:27:792 - Same as the previous point, some void, can chuck in an LN for the viola. Done as above

Pew wrote:

Here is some metadata i've checked

It seems that it was originally a single according to Wikipedia although this is a sketchy source although the reference listed http://www.spaceshowertv.com/search/det ... 85135&ch=0 as some sort of single.

https://cliff-edge.com/discography/works The first appearance at a work (2011) is shown in their official site citing it as a compilation under:
Sweet Grande 2 mixed by DJ GEORGIA (can add to tags)

https://cliff-edge.com/discography/album It's also shown that it's under greatest hits (2013) under:
THE BEST ～You’re the only one～ (add to tags)

But also recently at the 8th album:
あなたの声が聞こえる (add it as well i suppose)
All added

I'll check the actual diffs later

kaythen wrote:

will u be my valentine? yes

Easy:
01:44:010 (104010|4,104161|5) - Shift over 1 lane to the right (so lane 6 and 7). It makes it easier and less awkward for inexperienced players like me that have trouble transitioning from thumb to finger quickly when by itself, which I think is needed for an easy difficulty. Done
03:04:919 (184919|4) - Put it somewhere else on the right side (lane 6 to 9). Awkward for newbie players like myself to play notes close together like that after pressing the note in between so soon. Put it in 6

Medium:
00:04:313 (4313|5,4313|3) - Spread these out a bit (preferably to columns 3 and 7) or move it up higher (columns 6 and 8). Weird to have the notes close together by itself while being placed in the middle for a chord sounding like that in my opinion. Reshuffled to 4 and 8 to maintain pitch for LH, also moved previous note

maybe after all this we can go to the zoo and see some chimpanzees i'll bring my pokeballs

Thank peoples

Team Symphony Mania Modding Queue

hello O/

Wonki wrote:

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hello O/

easy

01:18:858 - need LN here you use LN 01:23:707 (83707|3) -

01:28:555 - same I decided not to add these two because I feel they are not 'impactful' enough. All of the notes I added in this section have a certain 'impact' that these two places are missing. (I know I have them on Medium but I'm doing it a little differently for easy, just a personal preference)

02:18:101 (138101|7) - move 02:17:949 - here 02:19:161 (139161|6,139464|4) - note like this Didn't move because the kick sound is actually on the blue line, not the red line

Medium

1. you have to nerf this too many 2note it's not suitable 1.88☆ I see where you are coming from, but I believe it is suitable because of the low BPM and the fact that it is not the easiest difficulty in the set (star ratings tend to be particularly inaccurate for 9k)

01:56:889 (116889|7,116964|6,117040|5) - so hard to 2star delete01:56:964 (116964|6) - Done

03:39:994 (219994|6) - same Done

Thanks for the mod! Updated again

hiho mod dadon[
ayyy 9K !


Good Luck :3

hi hannanos
quick mod here, i'm not used with 9K ;w;

[Hard]

i think i'm gonna stop here
i see a lot of inaudible pattern, and i can't understand your layering style, so sorry can't help much
good song btw

Eternalie wrote:

hiho mod dadon[
ayyy 9K !

dadon

key=1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9
[Easy]
00:04:919 (4919|4) - add note to 5 for the transition (plus it's a piano sound) Didn't add one here because I don't feel that note is part of the main melody
00:09:919 (9919|5) - add note ? (up to you there) Didn't do it here, simply a preference
00:38:252 (38252|6,38707|4,39161|2,39464|0) - move one collumn to the right ? (not really the same pitch as previous notes , + make some variety) I agree
00:55:222 (55222|6,55222|3) - this secion is really cool to learn the keybind c:
01:44:010 (104010|5) - how about move this one to 9 ? reading it that way seems abit tricky (atleast to me) I initially had this on the middle lane, but changed it because it was hardish to hit the note after using thumb. Only problem i have with it on 9 is that it might also be too hard to play, since it is 1/4. I'll think about this one
03:27:040 (207040|6) - add a note to 7 ? or any collumn for the vocal , according to here : 03:22:191 (202191|3) - , 03:17:343 (197343|3) - I don't think there is a vocal note there, so I left the gap (I know it doesn't look as pleasing but I think it is better that way)
[Medium]
00:04:919 (4919|4) - same suggest as Easy , add note on 5 ? Declined as in Easy
01:20:373 (80373|0,80373|4) - I love the way you map that sound , it's just beautifull alekjmrlmkqjdf xD Glad you like it c:
02:27:798 (147798|3) - add note (if you are following vocals) Didn't add because i'm following the synth layer
03:15:828 (195828|4) - you could make a 1/1 LN here for that sound ? I added an extra note instead for greater impact
03:27:040 (207040|8) - same as Easy , should have a note here for vocals Didn't do because there is no vocal lyric (as in Easy too)
[Hard]
00:53:101 (53101|8) - add one more note for the piano bass ? I think that there isn't an extra bass note there, the melody is just low

Good Luck :3

Valentrixe wrote:

hi hannanos
quick mod here, i'm not used with 9K ;w;

[Hard]

1. 00:04:464 (4464|0,4616|1) - these notes were following background piano, you didn't follow any of background piano before (like in 00:00:828 - and 00:01:434 - ) so i suggest to delete them, since the main piano start at 00:04:767 (4767|3) I didn't originally have those notes there because I thought they were background too, but another modder suggested to me to add it and I feel it is nicer like that (whether it is foreground or background can be debated)
2. 00:09:161 - add note? it has the same sound like 00:07:949 Added a LN on 9
3. 00:10:222 ~ 00:27:343 - i don't know what're you trying to follow, lot of unaudible sound imo, (00:10:525 (10525|3,11283|4,11434|3) - , and more), i think it's better to stick with the main piano (or with vocal if you want) and ignore the rest Some of them are very soft, but Kivicat (I think) checked through them earlier as well and I'm fairly sure they are there. The main reason why I kept them is because it gives a great piano playing effect for the player
4. 00:10:677 - add more note? it has the same sound like 00:10:373 (10373|1,10373|6) - and 00:10:980 (10980|7,10980|3) Decided not to (and for the suggestion below too) because I am keeping the piano/synth to 1 note and then putting doubles for emphasis on the beat
5. 00:11:889 - same as above, etc
6. 00:32:343 - missing note, since you add note in 00:32:798 (32798|2) The note you highlighted was for the clap sound (which I kept layering throughout the rest of the section)
7. 00:41:283 - inconsistent with 00:34:010 - ? Made the second one a double
8. 00:52:192 - this should be double, not 00:52:040 The reason I put a double there was because there was a bass note in the piano, and there isn'y one on 00:52:192
9. 00:53:101 - should be double too I think this is a single piano note, even though it is lower in pitch (same thing was suggested in previous mod too so I might look at it again later)
10. 01:32:798 (92798|7,92798|4,93101|6,93101|3,93404|2,93404|5,93707|4,93707|1) - what're you trying to follow? i think it should be 1/4 in 01:33:404 I am following the string (?) octave sounds, which I am emphasising with doubles just by themselves
11. 02:14:616 - should be double Declined for same reason as I said before

i think i'm gonna stop here
i see a lot of inaudible pattern, and i can't understand your layering style, so sorry can't help much
good song btw

Thanks for the mods guys! Updated!

BN check
Awaiting your response

Nivrad00 wrote:

BN check

General

I think the offset is late... I suggest moving all the timing points back -14 ms. Remember to resnap green lines and preview point Done, I think resnapped everything too

You should probably take the "～"s out of the tags and replace "You’re" with "You're". If anyone does search for this album, I doubt they're going to type in all the foreign punctuation Done

Diffs

Easy

Normal
00:43:707 (43707|3) - 00:44:919 (44919|3) - 01:46:737 (106737|3) - 01:47:949 (107949|3) - missing soft claps All added
01:23:707 - missing soft whistle? Added

Hard
00:47:495 - why's there a triple on this beat Good point, changed it a little
01:50:525 - same Done
02:43:101 - I think this clap shouldn't be here I agree
02:55:070 (175070|0) - seems like this LN should either end at 02:55:828 - or 02:56:434 - Extended to the bar line
03:12:949 - should this be a single? Kept as a double because I think I mapped two for a synth chord or whatever that sound is (looking back on it, would there be consistency problems with the rest of the section? I'm not sure because I don't particularly remember what I did)
03:20:676 - missing drum clap Done
03:58:252 - extra clap Fixed
03:58:403 - how come there's a big gap here Added note at 03:58:555 -

I must admit I'm still confused about the layering in sections of both Normal and Hard, but unless you're going to overhaul the map I won't worry about it too much ;n; I think for Hard I was doing mostly synth/piano + drums/bass without directly mapping the vocals, but it ended up following part of the vocals anyway. For Medium I'm pretty sure it is just mostly voice + drums/bass and voice + rap although there may be sections that are different in some way

Awaiting your response

Thanks for checking! Updated

Cool. Here we go!!

[img]https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/images/icons/misc/thinking.gif[/img]

Thank you niv <3

Hello! woo. Nice 9K chart!
[General]
※ Wrong Redline Timing
I feel weird this main section. 00:30:966 - 03:17:026 -
Because this http://puu.sh/sQ6BI/f22501a8b5.png

Change them as below.
00:30:966 - ▷ 00:28:541 -
03:17:026 - ▷ 03:14:601 -
It will be worked well than now. http://puu.sh/sQ6Hi/37741af2e7.jpg




If you don't want to change them(about beginner), I want to share opinion.

Kawawa wrote:

Hello! woo. Nice 9K chart!
[General]
※ Wrong Redline Timing
I feel weird this main section. 00:30:966 - 03:17:026 -
Because this http://puu.sh/sQ6BI/f22501a8b5.png

Change them as below.
00:30:966 - ▷ 00:28:541 -
03:17:026 - ▷ 03:14:601 -
It will be worked well than now. http://puu.sh/sQ6Hi/37741af2e7.jpg
Changed this to what you suggested. I didn't feel that was a problem, but I see what you mean with the LN crossing the bar line

[Easy]
I don't think that 1/4th "continuous anchor" on Easy difficulty.
I know that is same with 198 BPM 1/2th. but can't say that. (And your intention too)
The important thing is that used 99 as actual BPM.
so I really don't agree them. And sadly, recently dq issue is like that.

So I have looked through the diff again, and I personally feel that if I remove all the 1/4s, the chart loses a big amount of its character and interest. I know what you mean about the usage of 1/4, but I would rather the chart be a little bit harder than what the star rating suggests than it become boring and overly generic to play. For this reason, I have decided to keep most of them as they are.

However, I have made a few minor changes just to make them easier to play. I tried to make a few of the non-stair patterns (the ones past 3 min in the klai) spread out between two hands, which should make it easier to hit at least.
00:40:965 (40965|2,41116|3) - moved to 4 and 6
01:43:692 (103692|2,103995|5,104147|6) - moved to 5 3 7

As for the ones in the klai section you indicated at the bottom, the reason why I kept them as they are (even that is the hardest section of the chart) is simply because it fits the music well. Also, it is 1/4 but most of the patterns are stairs and/or flow across the hands nicely (think of scales on piano, since I am a pianist myself). Hopefully this doesn't cause too much trouble


Here are the issues(I can't point it out all)
so They must be considered again.

00:07:481 (7481|3,7632|6) - Remove this 00:07:481 (7481|3) -

00:08:693 (8693|2,8844|5,8996|3) - Remove them 00:08:693 (8693|2,8996|3) -
After remove them, you can change the some place.

00:22:935 (22935|8,23087|3) - Remove this 00:22:935 (22935|8) -

00:40:966 (40966|2,41117|3) - Remove this 00:41:117 (41117|3) -
I know it's the vocal sample anchor. but I think It should be fixed as above reason.

01:43:996 (103996|5,104147|6) - Remove this 01:44:147 (104147|6) -
01:56:572 (116572|5) - Same reason with above.

02:18:087 (138087|7,138238|4) - Remove this 02:18:087 (138087|7) -

02:19:753 (139753|6,139905|3,140056|0) - Remove this 02:19:905 (139905|3) -

02:22:935 (142935|7,143087|4) - Remove this 02:22:935 (142935|7) -

02:24:602 (144602|3,144753|5,144905|8) - Remove this 02:24:753 (144753|5) -

Same with these things.. on 3 minute part.

Also especially, 03:16:572 - 03:21:419 - 03:26:268 -

Column 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9

[Medium]
00:18:693 (18693|4) - Move to 2, Move to 7
I don't recommend you to use space key. can be balanced. Moved to 2 and moved next note to 5 to rebalance

00:54:602 (54602|2) - What do you thinka about? http://puu.sh/sQ6XT/68f10127b6.jpg
I think It's better than use LN. Done

This part too. 02:17:026 - Same with above. It needs to be considered again. Changed to two notes on 1, with the low bpm, I don't think that would be overly difficult given that it is on pinkie

[Hard]
02:17:026 (137026|3,137178|4,137329|5) - If you keep them as trill, better to feel.
Actually there's no stream. http://puu.sh/sQ7jn/9de15f6bd7.jpg
Also you can compare with previous one. 00:54:602 - Done

02:55:056 (175056|0) - I can't feel this one longer. If I suppose to it as vocal, It should be shorter.
even If you expressed it as bundle with something, it really weird to me. The long note is supposed to represent the note in the bass, but also create an effect with the increasing volume of the strings and reverse cymbal
I recommend this http://puu.sh/sQ7z2/32f4013a39.jpg

If you don't want to change them(about beginner), I want to share opinion.

Thanks for taking your time to check this! Updated and awaiting your response

If you think so, I got it.
Congratz, Qualified!

Gratzz! :3

Thanks Kawawa <3

this is good
you rank two 9k map
congrats

Thanks Frim!

Gotta get more antimeta maps ranked

I'm really glad this got qualif :3
really hope to see more of your anti-meta project in the future .

More antimeta soonTM