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Dailycare 2017-12-03T00:52:15+00:00

Garden wrote:

Dailycare parts:
03:01:281 - missing clap ok
03:31:974 (1,2,3,4) - I don't hear an increasing intensity in music that supports the sudden 1/2 jump, but it wound sound kinda justified to me if you add clap to all the four notes um i see. but don't wanna add a clap to (2)
04:17:675 - whistle? so it sounds a bit different from 04:17:516 - ok
04:26:550 (2,4) - 04:28:396 (2,4) - i assume they should have whistle like 04:24:704 (2,4) - yes
04:30:588 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - six 1/4 kicksliders in a row at 260bpm can be a bit harsh imo, dunno how it turns out to top players but I suggest nerfing it a bit by turning 04:30:934 (1) - into two circles nerfed it but changed the second 1,2 to a repeat slider. actually im not sure of the pattern and changed rhythm so please check it again lol
04:31:165 - should be a whistle refering to 04:30:704 - k
04:33:242 - also whistle? yup

thanks for the check

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Garden

Nomination Assessment Team

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Garden 2017-12-04T04:12:11+00:00

SB\dot.png
SB\Background\01.png
seem unused?

04:11:549 - here i mean make green/red line volume same

other changes look fine to me, storyboard is cool!

Enon

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Enon 2017-12-04T08:50:27+00:00

Garden wrote:
SB\dot.png
SB\Background\01.png
seem unused?

04:11:549 - here i mean make green/red line volume same

other changes look fine to me, storyboard is cool!

All fixed

Garden

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Garden 2017-12-04T10:28:05+00:00

fine, bubbled

Enon

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Enon 2017-12-04T10:38:40+00:00

Thanks!!!! Garden!!!

Ideal

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Ideal 2017-12-04T10:40:14+00:00

sex

scanter

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scanter 2017-12-04T10:43:59+00:00

sex

Down

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Down 2017-12-04T11:08:04+00:00

정말 멋진 스토리보드네요!
퀄파전 고치실 때 하면 좋을 거 같은 거 추천해드릴게요.

■ 키아이 파트 부분에 Feather1~3이 날릴 때 additive를 넣어주세요. 또한 깃털 날아가는 속도도 조금 줄여주셨으면 좋겠습니다. rotate 값도 처음 값 그대로 가는 것이 아니라 조금씩 돌아가면서 날아가면 어떨까요?

■ wing.png의 코드가 fade값만 다르고 완전 같게 움직여서 크게 의미가 없는 것 같습니다. http://puu.sh/yz7rt/62aeddba24.png
밑에 코드는 지워도 될 것 같네요. 그리고 additive도 지금 310280부터 시작하는데 197666부터 넣어주세요. additive가 없는 부분의 날개가 상당히 어두워 보입니다.

혹시라도 궁금한 점 있으시면 질문해주세요.

Lasse

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Lasse 2017-12-04T11:25:47+00:00

d

enon
01:28:282 (1,2,3,4) - what is this even mapped to, there's a clear change to really noticeable 1/4 snares on 01:28:512 - - which your current thing completely ignores by just mapping a full stream
01:32:205 (7,8,9,10) - held string sound mapped as 1/4 with clap spam, why...
01:39:358 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - basically same, there is no base for 1/4 rhythm
01:39:820 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - what is this following? completely ignores the 1/1 melody to spam filler rhythm
02:57:358 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
01:58:281 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - most of this is not in the song either
01:59:608 (8,1,2) - this is just suddenly extremely harsh gameplay wise for no apparent reason, it's just a drum roll but this is stands out so much in the map pattern and difficulty wise

02:15:358 (3,4) - why ignore the guitar switching to red ticks for such a bland rhythm? something like https://i.imgur.com/gTwiGIL.jpg would make for a much more engaging rhythm
same thing applies basically for the whole part, your rhythm is just so bland when the song offers a lot of possibilities for more interesting rhythm than just spamming sliders on white ticks

02:29:551 (4,1) - basically just a free sliderbreak with how much momentum the square builds up, different angle/breaking movement on the slider would be much nicer
02:59:781 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - this is probably the worst one overmap wise...
05:23:895 (4) - so there are a ton of overmapped streams, but then you ignore the ones actually in the song
05:24:127 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - yea
05:37:050 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
05:37:511 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - well, this is in the song, but 05:37:741 (5,6,7,8) - is clearly different since it switches from kicks to way louder snares
06:10:280 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 06:22:280 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - etc

06:12:588 (4) - 06:14:434 (5) - etc. melody on these is twice as fast as before but represented in the same way which is just really underwhelming

dailycare
03:15:820 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - basically same as first point for enon at 03:16:512 (5) -
03:16:801 (2,6) - .. guess these can be accepted since the other stuff is kinda intense but eh
04:37:050 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - why, drums are 1/2, you hitsound 1/2, but map a stream, same issue as before, completely ignores the clear change to 1/4 drums on 04:37:742 -

guitar part is basically filled with incoherent overmaps, but the map has way bigger issues than that anyway

04:37:973 (1,2) - what is this extreme drop in difficulty, music is really intense but you suddenly map it like a hard??

then you have things like 03:38:897 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - which just keep doing what you did before, even though there are really outstanding 1/1 strings here
what enon did for 05:46:280 (1,1,1) - seemed nice, would've liked to see something similar (or just 1/2 sliders) for these musical patterns

05:06:127 (1,2,3,4) - now this has 1/2 melody but you map it just the same as all the filler and drum 1/2 patterns?

[]
I only pointed out some of the worst overmaps, there are more which are probably just on the edge of being acceptable since they don't feel too unfitting

for overmapped triples like 00:58:166 (6,7) - at least hitsound them properly (1/4 claps)

should also go over hitsounding again, it's extremely bland for what the song offers and it also seems like you missed a lot of stuff like cymbals on 04:43:511 - or 06:05:665 - 06:07:511 - 01:01:974 -
also normal claps on 02:13:512 (9,7) - sound really out of place, just use your custom clap for normal too if you want clap with normalwhistle?

pop is mainly for the in my opinion very badly executed overmapping, though in general I don't think this is an accurate representation of the song and just very underwhelming in general

also difficulty wise it mainly looks like you took a double bpm style insane/low extra and put some 7* streams on it, which in most cases don't even follow the song

Enon

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Enon 2017-12-04T17:24:29+00:00

Thank you for coming, Lasse. I am going to leave my feedback for the modding as soon as possible.

If I am going to give up this work, please don't hate me.

Genjuro

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Joined August 2013

Genjuro 2017-12-04T23:02:56+00:00

this storyboard is so good omg

vipto

716 posts

Joined May 2011

vipto 2017-12-04T23:38:57+00:00

>bubble popped because of blatant overmapping
>"Yeah I might quit on this set"

Enon

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Topic Starter

Enon 2017-12-05T01:56:28+00:00

I have never said I am going to quit on this set.

It is about whether I am going to fix it or not.

Illyasviel

218 posts

Joined July 2013

Illyasviel 2017-12-05T20:30:55+00:00

Wall mods are hard to take on. It's the mapper choice to continue his work or not.

athyriel

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athyriel 2017-12-05T22:34:01+00:00

Congrats!

moonpoint

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Joined January 2017

moonpoint 2017-12-05T23:20:56+00:00

I want to see another high SR image material get ranked. I say go for it!

Garden

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Garden 2017-12-06T12:51:27+00:00

hi Lasse :>
I picked a few points you raise that I think it's ok to keep, would leave the rest replies to the mappers themselves.

For 01:28:282 (1,2,3,4) - etc. overmaps, imo they are mapped in a way to indicate the increasing pitch in melody. 01:26:897 (1,2,3,4) - two 1/1 sliders for 01:26:897 - 01:27:358 - notes, 01:27:820 (1,2) - two 1/2 sliders for 01:27:820 - note, so it make sense to start 1/4 rhythm from 01:28:281 - instead of 01:28:512 - what the music literally provides. Also a proof to my point is the undermap here -> 01:27:358 (3) - , it's logically coherent with the overmap.
01:39:820 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Probably this pattern is rather a tribute to the Scorpiour map (both rhythm and visual), at least the music supports the rhythm here. I can't agree melody is much more dominant in this case, but the singletaps can be a bit harsh to play after previous stream.
01:59:608 (8,1,2) - I was thinking about this too but when I tested with HT it played fine, so in my opinion, as long as the player has the ability to stream 260 bpm this won't be a thing. But yeah the flow can be improved.
02:29:551 (4,1) - Rather than being read as 02:29:320 (2,3,4,1) - (the square you mention? sorry if i didnt get it right here), it's more like 02:28:743 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - 02:29:204 (1,2,3,4) - , then 02:29:666 (1) - , so the slider works really well as a flowbreaker to transfer to the slow part.
05:23:895 (4) - : 05:23:204 (1,2) - 05:23:665 (3,4) - should be consistent to support the vocal pattern. So mapper decided not to start the stream at 05:23:896 - (also it seems a bit abrupt to play if it starts there).
05:37:511 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Surely your point makes sense here, but it's more a mapper's perspective of view (imo it's only noticeable in editor when we slowly listen to the intensity changes in music, but players won't really find it obvious while playing)

[]
There are indeed some not so fitting overmaps I overlooked, but some overmaps/undermaps look really intentional for playability/emphasis sake if you go much more in depth, after all beatmaps are made for players to enjoy rather than strictly following what the song provides, so long as the overmaps make sense it's ok to me, hope my explanations work.

For hitsounding(the cymbal part you mention), I kinda agree to your point but I supposed it's his hitsounding style to only finish those cymbals that indicates a transition in sections while modding so I said nothing about it. Yeah better go over the hitsounding again with Lasse's suggestions Enon. ^^"
02:13:512 (9,7) - Well it was my suggestion to add nw, but I overlooked that he didn't remove clap...

Lasse wrote:
also difficulty wise it mainly looks like you took a double bpm style insane/low extra and put some 7* streams on it, which in most cases don't even follow the song

Even after streams would potentially get nerfed after fixing some overmaps, the rest would still make this a hard map with unbalanced difficulty spikes on streams. But hey this shouldn't be a thing as long as the music supports so. See those 1-2 jump maps? They seem justifiable too.

Enon

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Topic Starter

Enon 2017-12-06T17:54:16+00:00

Lasse wrote:
d

enon
01:28:282 (1,2,3,4) - what is this even mapped to, there's a clear change to really noticeable 1/4 snares on 01:28:512 - - which your current thing completely ignores by just mapping a full stream I know it is existing a variation from 01:28:512 - on this streams. but I thought it would be nice the 1,2,3,4 to flow to the starting of kiai along with 5,6,7,8. While I can hear some melody changes on single 1/4 tick 01:28:281 - 01:28:339 - 01:28:397 - 01:28:454 - I am thinking it is okay to keep current.
01:32:205 (7,8,9,10) - held string sound mapped as 1/4 with clap spam, why... I agree I did put clap sounds to where clap sounds even don't exist. How about change it to whistle or just soft-hitnormal?
01:39:358 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - basically same, there is no base for 1/4 rhythm Okay, I turned it to two 1/2 sliders.
01:39:820 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - what is this following? completely ignores the 1/1 melody to spam filler rhythm I wanted to follow where you can listen to drum sounds on single 1/2 tick more than melodies you think it has to be supoosed. The music goes to the finale of a highlight, so I want to give a strong effect here.
02:57:358 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^ same as above
01:58:281 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - most of this is not in the song either I still believe the vocals are supposed to be done as the streams. 01:58:281 - the vocals start from here, and keeping sound for several ticks. The vocals exist along with drums and are making a harmony into the part. If I didn't put here the streams it would feel weird so much.
01:59:608 (8,1,2) - this is just suddenly extremely harsh gameplay wise for no apparent reason, it's just a drum roll but this is stands out so much in the map pattern and difficulty wise It was for the aesthetic of the pattern actually. It might be harsh to play as you said, but it won't be that big issue for the player who is able to play it.

02:15:358 (3,4) - why ignore the guitar switching to red ticks for such a bland rhythm? something like https://i.imgur.com/gTwiGIL.jpg would make for a much more engaging rhythm
same thing applies basically for the whole part, your rhythm is just so bland when the song offers a lot of possibilities for more interesting rhythm than just spamming sliders on white ticks I tried to follow the rhythm you suggested.

02:29:551 (4,1) - basically just a free sliderbreak with how much momentum the square builds up, different angle/breaking movement on the slider would be much nicer

Garden wrote:
02:29:551 (4,1) - Rather than being read as 02:29:320 (2,3,4,1) - (the square you mention? sorry if i didnt get it right here), it's more like 02:28:743 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - 02:29:204 (1,2,3,4) - , then 02:29:666 (1) - , so the slider works really well as a flowbreaker to transfer to the slow part.
Garden explained it very well. I really think current flow is following and expressing the music.

02:59:781 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - this is probably the worst one overmap wise... I am not sure if you would be fine with the change.
05:23:895 (4) - so there are a ton of overmapped streams, but then you ignore the ones actually in the song

Garden wrote:
05:23:895 (4) - : 05:23:204 (1,2) - 05:23:665 (3,4) - should be consistent to support the vocal pattern. So mapper decided not to start the stream at 05:23:896 - (also it seems a bit abrupt to play if it starts there).
It is as Garden said.

05:24:127 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - yea I think it applies as well what I said on 01:58:281 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) -
05:37:050 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
05:37:511 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - well, this is in the song, but 05:37:741 (5,6,7,8) - is clearly different since it switches from kicks to way louder snares

Garden wrote:
05:37:511 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Surely your point makes sense here, but it's more a mapper's perspective of view (imo it's only noticeable in editor when we slowly listen to the intensity changes in music, but players won't really find it obvious while playing)
It is as Garden said.

06:10:280 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 06:22:280 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - etc

I fixed the 6:10 thing, but 6:22 thing would have really weird rhythm if I going to change it. It would be appreciated if you give me some recommendation.

06:12:588 (4) - 06:14:434 (5) - etc. melody on these is twice as fast as before but represented in the same way which is just really underwhelming I really don't get what is the problem with it.

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I only pointed out some of the worst overmaps, there are more which are probably just on the edge of being acceptable since they don't feel too unfitting

for overmapped triples like 00:58:166 (6,7) - at least hitsound them properly (1/4 claps)

should also go over hitsounding again, it's extremely bland for what the song offers and it also seems like you missed a lot of stuff like cymbals on 04:43:511 - or 06:05:665 - 06:07:511 - 01:01:974 - To be honest, I am really not good at hitsounding. So I might put some wrong hitsounds. and, yeah. It is my hitsounding style to only finish those cymbals that indicates a transition in sections. So it also would be appreciated if you give me some recommendation
also normal claps on 02:13:512 (9,7) - sound really out of place, just use your custom clap for normal too if you want clap with normalwhistle? I admit I did make a mistake on here

pop is mainly for the in my opinion very badly executed overmapping, though in general I don't think this is an accurate representation of the song and just very underwhelming in general

also difficulty wise it mainly looks like you took a double bpm style insane/low extra and put some 7* streams on it, which in most cases don't even follow the song

Thank you for posting Lasse and Garden. Sorry for being lated to reply.

Dailycare's reply will be delayed a few time.

Lasse

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Lasse 2017-12-06T18:32:36+00:00

02:59:781 (2,3,4) - etc these triples will be much nicer with proper hitsounding (read: claps on all ticks) if you use 1/2 claps with 1/4 rhythm is just becomes really weird (basically hitsound these similar to 01:45:243 (5,6) - etc)

things like 01:28:282 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - still don't make any sense to me with what the song is doing, even if you try to tell me there is a "change in movement on 01:28:512 (5) - " which is not anything that will stand out in gameplay, as an experienced player you should know how streams like this play (one fluid motion)
maybe even something like https://i.imgur.com/VE2UGOx.jpg would work, right now you are representing 1/4 and 1/2 in the song both in the same way which is just really questionable

01:32:205 (7,8,9,10,1) - this is just a very random feeling overmap since you never do it for similar spots in this part, so it feels just out of place

01:39:820 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - "The music goes to the finale of a highlight, so I want to give a strong effect here." how does an insane level alt pattern give any strong effect in a map filled with spaced 260 streams

"I still believe the vocals are supposed to be done as the streams."
just
what
no
how does this make any sense
this sentence alone makes me just feel like I'm wasting my time arguing here

02:29:551 (4,1) - yea whatever, this is a minor point anyway

03:00:589 (1,2,3,4) - ignores the really noticeable change in drums on 03:00:820 (3,4) - , some kind of expanding pattern for example would be much nicer

05:23:895 (4) - what, there isn't even a vocal on this, why would you make it consistent with the "vocal pattern"

06:10:280 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - at least this actually follows the song now..

06:12:127 (3,4) - compare the sounds on both, 3 maps melody only on head, while 4 has it both, this one is also only a minor issue not related to the pop, but I still think something like https://i.imgur.com/91aXjfq.jpg would be better

yea I still don't think this is in any way acceptable with how you put streams over held vocals with no 1/4 to support and overall unfitting and inconsistent overmaps. I'm not saying overmapping is bad in general, it can be nice if used well, but not the way you executed it.

Illyasviel

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Illyasviel 2017-12-06T23:34:15+00:00

Checking the timing I see some minor issues especially on the slow parts. You should really change the mp3 and copy the timing from the set that got ranked last year in CtB. It even has timed the ending too. Because with your current timing parts like this 04:16:408 (1) - and this 04:18:906 (1) - are not properly timed.

Vell

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Vell 2017-12-07T16:46:46+00:00

passing by to say please silence those ends 00:08:320 -

VINXIS

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VINXIS 2017-12-09T07:15:23+00:00

Enon

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Enon 2017-12-10T15:37:09+00:00

Lasse wrote:
02:59:781 (2,3,4) - etc these triples will be much nicer with proper hitsounding (read: claps on all ticks) if you use 1/2 claps with 1/4 rhythm is just becomes really weird (basically hitsound these similar to 01:45:243 (5,6) - etc) fixed

things like 01:28:282 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - still don't make any sense to me with what the song is doing, even if you try to tell me there is a "change in movement on 01:28:512 (5) - " which is not anything that will stand out in gameplay, as an experienced player you should know how streams like this play (one fluid motion)
maybe even something like https://i.imgur.com/VE2UGOx.jpg would work, right now you are representing 1/4 and 1/2 in the song both in the same way which is just really questionable Two 1/4 kick sliders feel weird a little for me I fixed the distance of 01:28:281 (1,2,3,4) - this stream instead.

01:32:205 (7,8,9,10,1) - this is just a very random feeling overmap since you never do it for similar spots in this part, so it feels just out of place I did it at 02:49:743 (4,5,6,7) - as well. and I could only hear the sounds at 01:32:204 - 01:32:262 - 01:32:320 - 01:32:377 -

01:39:820 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - "The music goes to the finale of a highlight, so I want to give a strong effect here." how does an insane level alt pattern give any strong effect in a map filled with spaced 260 streams The pattern is like preparing for the 260 long streams? I really think it is fine to keep.

"I still believe the vocals are supposed to be done as the streams."
just
what
no
how does this make any sense
this sentence alone makes me just feel like I'm wasting my time arguing here OK, I fixed it with VINXIS's help.

02:29:551 (4,1) - yea whatever, this is a minor point anyway

03:00:589 (1,2,3,4) - ignores the really noticeable change in drums on 03:00:820 (3,4) - , some kind of expanding pattern for example would be much nicer I tried but I am not sure you would be satisfied with this change.

05:23:895 (4) - what, there isn't even a vocal on this, why would you make it consistent with the "vocal pattern" I can hear the sound "ah-----------" which is starting to exist from 05:23:665 - and it seems a bit abrupt to play if it starts there.

06:10:280 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - at least this actually follows the song now..

06:12:127 (3,4) - compare the sounds on both, 3 maps melody only on head, while 4 has it both, this one is also only a minor issue not related to the pop, but I still think something like https://i.imgur.com/91aXjfq.jpg would be better ok!

yea I still don't think this is in any way acceptable with how you put streams over held vocals with no 1/4 to support and overall unfitting and inconsistent overmaps. I'm not saying overmapping is bad in general, it can be nice if used well, but not the way you executed it.

I tried to fix those things you mentioned and I am thinking this is good for now!

[XV] wrote:
Checking the timing I see some minor issues especially on the slow parts. You should really change the mp3 and copy the timing from the set that got ranked last year in CtB. It even has timed the ending too. Because with your current timing parts like this 04:16:408 (1) - and this 04:18:906 (1) - are not properly timed.

I am not sure about it. because it uses same mp3 file with the mapset? I will contact to someone has knowledge of timing.

Lasse

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Lasse 2017-12-10T15:54:50+00:00

well I still don't like the way some of the overmaps are utilized, but at least it makes a bit more sense than before

seems like this discussion will not lead to anything new at this point and I'm also tired of the whole thing so feel free to go ahead with this
though chance is high it will be popped again I think...

Dailycare

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Dailycare 2017-12-12T11:21:41+00:00

04:37:966 (1,2) - didn't change the spacing for making it same with the similar part

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Enon

2,690 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Enon 2017-12-13T15:37:23+00:00

Changelog:

Some overmaps have been resolved with Lasse and some mappers' suggestions.
Storyboard has been fixed according to changes of the map.

We have addressed about the overmap issues and made some changes.

As Lasse agreed to go ahead with this state, it seems we have made an agreement with him at least.

Then, we are ready to go with this now.

Rizia

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Joined January 2012

Rizia 2017-12-16T19:39:04+00:00

xd

04:18 Enon: Hello Rizia
04:18 Rizia: hello
04:20 Enon: Do you mind if I ask you to give me an opinion for some patterns being issue in my map?
04:20 Rizia: sure
04:20 Enon: Since it's really hard map
04:21 Enon: so I want to ask some play-experienced mapper
04:21 Enon: thanks!
04:21 *Enon is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/875945 Tatsh - IMAGE -MATERIAL- <Version 0>]
04:21 Enon: Which map is this
04:22 Enon: The issues are started from https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/6387790 Lasse's mod
04:22 Enon: and I replied like https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/6391296 and https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/6396973
04:22 Enon: and it seems we made an agreement with Lasse
04:23 Enon: so I think it's fine to go
04:23 Enon: but
04:23 Enon: Garden worries if it might be bubble-popped again
04:23 Enon: so
04:23 Enon: before rebubbling
04:23 Enon: needs to gather some mappers' opinions
04:24 Rizia: 01:59:608 (8,1,2) - 
04:24 Rizia: nerf plz
04:24 Rizia: since its 260
04:25 Rizia: streams better have a smooth flow
04:25 Enon: humm
04:26 Enon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9780127
04:26 Enon: like this?
04:26 Rizia: its looks better
04:26 Rizia: xd
04:27 Enon: OK
04:29 Rizia: for me, i dont see any serious issue in the map now
04:30 Enon: thank you for checking!
04:30 Enon: if you don't mind
04:30 Enon: can you post it in the thread?
04:30 Enon: it would be appreciated!
04:32 Rizia: 01:32:262 (8) - 
04:32 Rizia: not too bad if deleted
04:33 Enon: humm
04:33 Enon: 01:32:204 - 01:32:262 - 01:32:320 - 01:32:377 - i mapped in a way to indicate the increasing pitch in melody
04:34 Rizia: oh
04:35 Rizia: actually fine
04:35 Rizia: its
04:35 Rizia: xd
04:35 Enon: XD
04:35 Rizia: yeah i think thats all for me
04:36 Enon: XD
04:36 Enon: good to hear
04:36 Rizia: good luck with your map~!
04:37 Enon: thank you for your time
04:37 Enon: :D

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined April 2012

neonat 2017-12-17T18:04:12+00:00

Quick Chat

2017-12-18 01:40 neonat: like uh
2017-12-18 01:41 neonat: 01:42:877 (6,8) - there is no music here
2017-12-18 01:43 neonat: 02:06:012 (4,5) - kinda underwhelming spacing when 02:06:127 (5) - is so strong
2017-12-18 01:44 neonat: it's weird to start the sliders on the red line 02:15:474 (4) - 02:15:474 (4) - 02:16:397 (4) - etc
2017-12-18 01:44 neonat: their strong part is the white line
2017-12-18 01:45 Enon: humm
2017-12-18 01:45 Enon: about the part
2017-12-18 01:45 Enon: lasse suggested me the rhythms
2017-12-18 01:46 Enon: like "why ignore the guitar switching to red ticks for such a bland rhythm? something like https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/gTwiGIL.jpg would make for a much more engaging rhythm "
2017-12-18 01:46 neonat: because the guitars hold at 02:15:358 (3) - then 02:16:281 (3,4) - is a double guitar sound
2017-12-18 01:46 neonat: while 02:16:512 - guitar starts here too
2017-12-18 01:47 Enon: https://puu.sh/yIqOJ/77a58db679.png
2017-12-18 01:47 Enon: how about these rhythms?
2017-12-18 01:47 neonat: the violin at 03:23:666 - is strong enough to not be slider end
2017-12-18 01:48 neonat: I think for 02:15:358 (3,4) - you can merge them all together into a slider
2017-12-18 01:48 neonat: 02:16:281 (3,4,5) - can be like those sliders you ss-ed
2017-12-18 01:49 Enon: that mean 02:15:358 (3,4) - for this is
2017-12-18 01:49 Enon: make 02:15:358 (3,4) - it to 1/1?
2017-12-18 01:49 neonat: yeh
2017-12-18 01:50 neonat: 03:13:512 - 03:13:627 - 03:13:743 - 03:13:858 - you just left this blank
2017-12-18 01:50 neonat: or at least dailycare did
2017-12-18 01:50 Enon: i did it as well
2017-12-18 01:50 neonat: that violin part also daily's part
2017-12-18 01:50 Enon: 01:55:743 -
2017-12-18 01:50 neonat: it's different
2017-12-18 01:51 neonat: your part doesn't have the same percussion
2017-12-18 01:51 Enon: ahh
2017-12-18 01:51 Enon: the red ticks?
2017-12-18 01:52 Enon: maybe
2017-12-18 01:52 Enon: he wanted to make it as similar as mine because its mood is really similar?
2017-12-18 01:52 neonat: not quite
2017-12-18 01:52 neonat: same mood
2017-12-18 01:53 Enon: humm
2017-12-18 01:53 Enon: i didn't say it's same :O
2017-12-18 01:53 Enon: just really similar
2017-12-18 01:54 neonat: still not quite lol
2017-12-18 01:54 neonat: the percussion is much more prevalent in daily's
2017-12-18 01:55 neonat: 05:11:197 (1,2) - the stack pauses in the kiai differ, it's not really consistent
2017-12-18 01:55 neonat: it's 6 beats here from the start of the phrase
2017-12-18 01:55 neonat: it's after 12 at 05:19:504 (1) - 
2017-12-18 01:56 Enon: ????????
2017-12-18 01:56 Enon: what does mean of that number
2017-12-18 01:56 Enon: hard to understand tbh
2017-12-18 01:56 Enon: :(
2017-12-18 01:58 neonat: anyway that's what I have to say from seeing once through
2017-12-18 01:58 Enon: humm
2017-12-18 01:58 Enon: i need your explanation about the part you mentioned "phrase"
2017-12-18 01:59 Enon: humm
2017-12-18 01:59 neonat: it just means when a section of music begins
2017-12-18 01:59 neonat: but that's just a thought on that part
2017-12-18 02:01 Enon: humm
2017-12-18 02:01 Enon: i will consider your suggestions
2017-12-18 02:01 Enon: thank you for your time

Enon

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Topic Starter

Enon 2017-12-17T18:19:34+00:00

neonat wrote:
01:42:877 (6,8) - there is no music here deleted
02:06:012 (4,5) - kinda underwhelming spacing when 02:06:127 (5) - is so strong i think lower distance could emphasize the strong sound.
it's weird to start the sliders on the red line 02:15:474 (4) - 02:15:474 (4) - 02:16:397 (4) - etc because the guitars hold at 02:15:358 (3) - then 02:16:281 (3,4) - is a double guitar sound while 02:16:512 - guitar starts here too tried to fix it
02:15:358 (3,4) - you can merge them all together into a slider fixed
02:16:281 (3,4,5) - can be like those sliders you ss-ed fixed
05:11:197 (1,2) - the stack pauses in the kiai differ, it's not really consistent it's 6 beats here from the start of the phrase it's after 12 at 05:19:504 (1) - humm I really didn't understand your said though, I followed the rhythm from the similar part Dailycare has mapped 03:17:666 - ?

Thank you for the checking

Dailycare

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined May 2012

Dailycare 2017-12-26T14:47:30+00:00

for the S slider on 03:12:127 -
Actually I intended to give a similar experience of the previous part and I also think it isn't a bad choice. Though the drum gets stronger than the previous, the sampling sound is also strong enough. And 03:11:666 (3,4) - they can be a hint that there may be notes following a vocal at the next part.

Also fixed 03:23:204 (1,2,3,4) -

SPOILER

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327,194,203435,2,0,P|334:147|337:101,1,93.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-12-27T08:26:18+00:00

hey I just came to say this map is pretty especially Enon's parts, sorry Dailycare
+5sp and added to favs!

Enon

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Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Enon 2017-12-28T14:22:58+00:00

Thank you for the comment, ezek!

Updated Dailycare's part.

Regou

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Joined July 2010

Regou 2017-12-28T14:42:10+00:00

quick chat :3

SPOILER

22:24 Enon: Hey!
22:24 Regou: hi :3
22:25 Enon: Are you busy now?
22:25 Regou: not really
22:26 Enon: then can I ask you to give an opinion for some parts on my map if you don't mind it?
22:26 Regou: sure
22:26 Enon: I need player-based-mapper's opinion
22:26 Enon: thanks!
22:27 *Enon is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/875945 Tatsh - IMAGE -MATERIAL- <Version 0> [Revolution]]
22:27 Enon: which map is this
22:27 Enon: one
22:27 Regou: omg 260 bpm
22:27 Enon: yeah
22:27 Enon: it might be too fast for everyone
22:27 Regou: i can't really play it properly ><
22:27 Regou: by the way which part would you want me to look at
22:29 Enon: 01:42:243 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - 01:58:281 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 03:16:397 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 05:09:004 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 06:22:273 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) -
22:29 Enon: etc
22:29 Enon: Parts are mentioned as "overmapping"
22:29 Enon: so I and dailycare did try to fix them and
22:29 Enon: now you can see the changes
22:30 Regou: 01:42:243 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - lol this one
22:30 Enon: with the changes, i want to see your opinions about it
22:30 Enon: lol
22:30 Enon: maybe
22:30 Regou: it's really hard to sense there's a 1/2 in the middle at first try
22:30 Regou: since it's 260bpm
22:30 Enon: i am going to fix the distance
22:30 Enon: yeayea
22:30 Enon: the part was mistake of me
22:30 Enon: :(
22:31 Enon: 01:42:877 - 01:42:993 -
22:31 Enon: ive removed out
22:31 Regou: i see
22:31 Enon: these
22:31 Enon: from original stream
22:31 Regou: 01:58:858 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is okay i think
22:31 Enon: so it might seems shit
22:31 Enon: lol
22:31 Regou: it follows the music well
22:31 Regou: you can hear they fall on the drum beat
22:31 Enon: that's good to hear
22:32 Regou: 03:16:397 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this could be controversal
22:32 Regou: 03:16:801 (2) - lands on nothing actually
22:32 Regou: but it will play much more smoothly if 03:16:801 (2) - is added
22:32 Regou: plays*
22:33 Regou: combining 03:16:743 (1,2,3) - into a 1/2 could be one of the option tho
22:36 Enon: humm
22:36 Enon: maybe you can post it this log on the thread then dailycare could consider about it?
22:36 Regou: sure
22:36 Enon: thanks!
22:36 Regou: im checking the last two btw
22:36 Enon: how about others ?
22:36 Enon: yes
22:37 Regou: 05:09:812 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - changing them into 1/4 sliders might be better since sound on (2) (4) (6) is extremely weak
22:38 Regou: 06:22:735 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - super cool do a overmapping at the end would like to see this being keeped tbh even tho it's obviously overmapped
22:39 Regou: i think that's all for me :3
22:40 Enon: depends on how dailycare changes it
22:40 Enon: it would be awesome
22:41 Regou: changing some of them into 1/4 sliders might be safer choice
22:41 Regou: i guess
22:41 Regou: anyway let's post this to the thread first

Dailycare

Beatmap Nominator

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Dailycare 2017-12-28T15:27:03+00:00

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263,124,309927,2,0,L|331:116,1,46.75,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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05:09:812 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 지우고 복붙해주세요

thanks for the mod, and I'll keep 03:16:801 (2) - for now but find a better alternative talking to others

Enon

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Topic Starter

Enon 2017-12-28T16:01:42+00:00

Updated!

Garden

Nomination Assessment Team

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Garden 2017-12-31T01:06:41+00:00

rebubbled

Enon

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Enon 2017-12-31T04:50:27+00:00

Thank you so much again!

milr_

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milr_ 2018-01-01T12:15:57+00:00

NICEEE

Natsu

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Natsu 2018-01-06T10:02:23+00:00

yo

general

combo color 1 and 2 are too similar, can you make them different pls

diff

01:28:281 (1,2,3,4) - I think it represents well the music
01:32:204 (7,8,9,10,1) - this one is ok for me, since there are some bg sounds and I think the stream represents it well
03:00:589 (1,2,3,4) - every beat should have the same spacing, 1 and 2 being smaller than 3 and 4 doesn't makes much sense to me.
03:00:935 (4,1) - also this should be a jump considering how strong 1 is.
00:43:051 (4) - the tail is mapped to a stanza which sounds just wrong, it needs a click action try a circle or smth
01:02:666 (1) - remove the NC, this is still part of the previous melody, instead add one at 01:03:358 (2) - since there is a change in the music
01:44:666 (2,5) - stack is off
01:55:512 (2) - there is a hold sound in the music, pls map it as a long slider like the other ones
02:06:012 (4,5) - the change on the music is on 5, but ur pattern doesn't represent it well because of how small the spacing is xd
02:13:743 (1) - this nc doesn't follows anything, remove it and add one at 02:13:973 (3) - were the change in the music happens
02:28:281 (3,4) - eh the drums changes to every 1/2 beats, use 1/2 circles the sliders doesn't represent well this change in the music
02:36:935 (10,1) - similar as before, the spacing doesn't represent the music at all, this needs to have higher spacing than the rest
02:40:627 (8,1) - 02:40:627 (8,1) - same
02:45:820 (4) - shouldn't this be a NC as the before similar part?
03:00:935 (4,1) - 1 needs higher spacing to represent the song properly
04:18:892 (1,1) - the overlap looks super bad T-T
04:44:889 (5,6) - ignoring the 1/2 strong beats doesn't make any sense with the song
05:23:888 (4) - don't ignore the triplet pls

Enon

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Topic Starter

Enon 2018-01-06T15:45:15+00:00

Natsu wrote:
yo

general

combo color 1 and 2 are too similar, can you make them different pls fixed
diff

01:28:281 (1,2,3,4) - I think it represents well the music glad to hear this
01:32:204 (7,8,9,10,1) - this one is ok for me, since there are some bg sounds and I think the stream represents it well glad to hear this
03:00:589 (1,2,3,4) - every beat should have the same spacing, 1 and 2 being smaller than 3 and 4 doesn't makes much sense to me. fixed
03:00:935 (4,1) - also this should be a jump considering how strong 1 is. fixed
00:43:051 (4) - the tail is mapped to a stanza which sounds just wrong, it needs a click action try a circle or smth fixed
01:02:666 (1) - remove the NC, this is still part of the previous melody, instead add one at 01:03:358 (2) - since there is a change in the music fixed
01:44:666 (2,5) - stack is off fixed
01:55:512 (2) - there is a hold sound in the music, pls map it as a long slider like the other ones i think leaving it an empty is really nice even if i ignore some sound.
02:06:012 (4,5) - the change on the music is on 5, but ur pattern doesn't represent it well because of how small the spacing is xd i finally fixed it
02:13:743 (1) - this nc doesn't follows anything, remove it and add one at 02:13:973 (3) - were the change in the music happens fixed
02:28:281 (3,4) - eh the drums changes to every 1/2 beats, use 1/2 circles the sliders doesn't represent well this change in the music fixed
02:36:935 (10,1) - similar as before, the spacing doesn't represent the music at all, this needs to have higher spacing than the rest fixed
02:40:627 (8,1) - 02:40:627 (8,1) - same fixed
02:45:820 (4) - shouldn't this be a NC as the before similar part? added
04:18:892 (1,1) - the overlap looks super bad T-T fixed
04:44:889 (5,6) - ignoring the 1/2 strong beats doesn't make any sense with the song he followed my part 01:18:127 (5,6) - and i think it is fine because there are some sound existing to those 3/4
05:23:888 (4) - don't ignore the triplet pls i already know there are sounds worth to be stream on 05:23:889 - 05:23:947 - 05:24:004 - 05:24:062 - but i wanted to make 05:23:197 (1,2,3,4) - these a pattern.

Thank you for coming!

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