2016-02-10 21:21 ZeroCalamity: you have a map I can look at?
2016-02-10 21:22 ArcherLove: do you want to mod the ones that have more mods or less mods?
2016-02-10 21:22 ZeroCalamity: middle?
2016-02-10 21:23 ZeroCalamity: I don't want to stand here and say everything is great because a map has 20 mods already though
2016-02-10 21:23 ArcherLove: lool
2016-02-10 21:23 ArcherLove: ok
2016-02-10 21:23 ArcherLove: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/864697 ESTi - Secret Wish]
2016-02-10 21:23 ArcherLove: oh wait
2016-02-10 21:23 ArcherLove: let me update that first
2016-02-10 21:24 ZeroCalamity: go ahead
2016-02-10 21:33 ArcherLove: as
2016-02-10 21:33 ArcherLove: oh I thought you offline
2016-02-10 21:34 ZeroCalamity: lol
2016-02-10 21:34 ZeroCalamity: I'm just watching a stream while you do your thing
2016-02-10 21:35 ArcherLove: ok it's updated
2016-02-10 21:37 ArcherLove: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/862467 ESTi - Secret Wish [MX]]
2016-02-10 21:46 ZeroCalamity: hm
2016-02-10 21:47 ZeroCalamity: you mapped that in an interesting way
2016-02-10 21:48 ZeroCalamity: for example here
2016-02-10 21:48 ZeroCalamity: just randomly this
2016-02-10 21:48 ZeroCalamity: 00:16:999 (16999|5,17110|3,17221|0) -
2016-02-10 21:49 ArcherLove: not random I guess
2016-02-10 21:49 ArcherLove: since it has base-sound
2016-02-10 21:49 ZeroCalamity: I randomly picked it
2016-02-10 21:49 ZeroCalamity: I don't hear what it's mapped to
2016-02-10 21:49 ArcherLove: ah
2016-02-10 21:49 ArcherLove: oh
2016-02-10 21:49 ArcherLove: lol
2016-02-10 21:49 ArcherLove: ok
2016-02-10 21:50 ArcherLove: 00:17:110 (17110|3) - this is quite weak so it can't be heard without a bit louder ear/headphone
2016-02-10 21:50 ArcherLove: and a bit clearer ones
2016-02-10 21:50 ArcherLove: but I think I can hear 00:16:999 (16999|5,17221|0) - with speakers
2016-02-10 21:50 ZeroCalamity: yeah I can barely hear something in the backgroundd
2016-02-10 21:51 ArcherLove: since it's a hit-hats and kicks
2016-02-10 21:51 ArcherLove: ww
2016-02-10 21:52 ZeroCalamity: I would map a lot of this to the piano
2016-02-10 21:52 ZeroCalamity: which is really loud
2016-02-10 21:53 ArcherLove: the LNs
2016-02-10 21:53 ArcherLove: it's piano-based
2016-02-10 21:53 ZeroCalamity: yeah, but on MX and HD
2016-02-10 21:54 ZeroCalamity: you have these triples
2016-02-10 21:54 ZeroCalamity: and even streams
2016-02-10 21:54 ArcherLove: well
2016-02-10 21:54 ArcherLove: playability I guess
2016-02-10 21:54 ArcherLove: which MX
2016-02-10 21:54 ArcherLove: I mapped almost all sounds on MX
2016-02-10 21:54 ArcherLove: (my)MX
2016-02-10 21:55 ZeroCalamity: your has LNs
2016-02-10 21:55 ZeroCalamity: I didn't play it completely yet
2016-02-10 21:55 ArcherLove: LNs is not a ghost song
2016-02-10 21:55 ArcherLove: it's all has base
2016-02-10 21:55 ZeroCalamity: LNs are definitely piano
2016-02-10 21:55 ZeroCalamity: but look at oo diff
2016-02-10 21:55 ZeroCalamity: for example this
2016-02-10 21:55 ArcherLove: like 00:21:666 (21666|1) - for bass and 00:22:777 (22777|6,22777|4,23221|3,23221|5) - piano
2016-02-10 21:55 ZeroCalamity: 01:47:888 -
2016-02-10 21:56 ArcherLove: 00 diff
2016-02-10 21:56 ArcherLove: hmm
2016-02-10 21:56 ArcherLove: I tihnk bms style = all sound but without LNs
2016-02-10 21:56 ArcherLove: he said it
2016-02-10 21:56 ZeroCalamity: yeah, but why no hitsounds
2016-02-10 21:56 ZeroCalamity: it was unexpectedd
2016-02-10 21:56 ArcherLove: because I don't like hitsound
2016-02-10 21:56 ZeroCalamity: sorry, my d and f key double press a lot
2016-02-10 21:57 ArcherLove: ww it's okay
2016-02-10 21:57 ArcherLove: I just don't like it but still hitsounding anyway
2016-02-10 21:57 ArcherLove: with a bit little effort
2016-02-10 21:58 ArcherLove: I've never play with hitsound except for keysounded songs <_<
2016-02-10 21:58 ZeroCalamity: I love hitsounds
2016-02-10 21:58 ZeroCalamity: I think this would be sooo much better with hitsounds
2016-02-10 21:58 ZeroCalamity: like the triples in HD at the beginning
2016-02-10 21:58 ZeroCalamity: I didn't know what I was pressing that to
2016-02-10 21:58 ArcherLove: well I don't think I can afford it
2016-02-10 21:59 ArcherLove: maybe if someone else want to hitsound this haha
2016-02-10 21:59 ZeroCalamity: and okay, it's consistent rhythm, but I'd like at least some sound on those notes
2016-02-10 21:59 ZeroCalamity: yeah noone like hs
2016-02-10 22:02 ArcherLove: haha
2016-02-10 22:02 ArcherLove: _(:3
2016-02-10 22:02 ZeroCalamity: atm I don't really see many options
2016-02-10 22:03 ZeroCalamity: HD and oo MX feel like levels
2016-02-10 22:03 ZeroCalamity: even though different mappers lol
2016-02-10 22:03 ArcherLove: really? I study bms from him so maybe a bit same w
2016-02-10 22:03 ZeroCalamity: and MX has really cool difference
2016-02-10 22:03 ArcherLove: rip star rating
2016-02-10 22:03 ZeroCalamity: because LN walls say hello
2016-02-10 22:03 ArcherLove: only 4.2 lol
2016-02-10 22:03 ZeroCalamity: yeah
2016-02-10 22:03 ZeroCalamity: your MX is harder than oo
2016-02-10 22:04 ArcherLove: I should change the diff name so people will maybe try that _(:'
2016-02-10 22:04 ArcherLove: people tend to only play the star++ diff
2016-02-10 22:04 ArcherLove: orz
2016-02-10 22:05 ZeroCalamity: yeah
2016-02-10 22:05 ZeroCalamity: I'm so bad at these LNs damn
2016-02-10 22:05 ZeroCalamity: the funniest part is that I've improved at LNs a lot
2016-02-10 22:05 ZeroCalamity: and can't even pass 4.2*
2016-02-10 22:06 ArcherLove: maybe because osu!mania
2016-02-10 22:06 ArcherLove: lol
2016-02-10 22:06 ArcherLove: you will not improve /a lot/ at osu!mania LNs
2016-02-10 22:06 ArcherLove: shit timing
2016-02-10 22:06 ArcherLove: that's why many people who's from osu!mania really pro at bmses _(:3
2016-02-10 22:07 ArcherLove: maybe except me because I'm lazy to play
2016-02-10 22:07 ZeroCalamity: I'm not good at anything though so
2016-02-10 22:07 ZeroCalamity: I have an idea though
2016-02-10 22:07 ZeroCalamity: what would be really cool is if there was also an easier diff of your mx
2016-02-10 22:08 ArcherLove: well it's mx so it supposedly not easy
2016-02-10 22:08 ArcherLove: o)-(
2016-02-10 22:08 ZeroCalamity: then you'd have a parallel scaling
2016-02-10 22:08 ZeroCalamity: because your diff has soooo many LNs
2016-02-10 22:08 ArcherLove: maybe need to make new HD
2016-02-10 22:08 ZeroCalamity: and the bms-style ones have none
2016-02-10 22:09 ArcherLove: idk I will ask more people o)-(
2016-02-10 22:10 ZeroCalamity: yeah I'd love to comment on MX, but I fail at the middle with 85%
2016-02-10 22:10 ArcherLove: well
2016-02-10 22:10 ArcherLove: maybe just look at editor and play part per part
2016-02-10 22:12 ZeroCalamity: I think it's the singles that actually mess me up
2016-02-10 22:12 ZeroCalamity: because they're mapped like in the bms diffs
2016-02-10 22:12 ZeroCalamity: I think hitsounds would make this easier then
2016-02-10 22:12 ZeroCalamity: and then there's the problem of who will hs it then
2016-02-10 22:13 ArcherLove: lol
2016-02-10 22:13 ZeroCalamity: but maybe, if you get something
2016-02-10 22:13 ZeroCalamity: uhh
2016-02-10 22:13 ZeroCalamity: calm?
2016-02-10 22:13 ArcherLove: I love making calm songs hard
2016-02-10 22:13 ZeroCalamity: like a triangle sound
2016-02-10 22:13 ZeroCalamity: or maybe something like a bell
2016-02-10 22:13 ArcherLove: I think I have
2016-02-10 22:13 ZeroCalamity: and added it to just all of the notes
2016-02-10 22:14 ArcherLove: whistle sound?
2016-02-10 22:14 ZeroCalamity: while adding something like a soft clap on the chords
2016-02-10 22:14 ArcherLove: whistle-hitsound
2016-02-10 22:14 ArcherLove: ?
2016-02-10 22:14 ArcherLove: I think I have already add some 'claps'
2016-02-10 22:14 ArcherLove: but it's soft
2016-02-10 22:14 ArcherLove: try to change the hitsound volume to 100
2016-02-10 22:14 ZeroCalamity: it's also very quiet then
2016-02-10 22:14 ZeroCalamity: ok
2016-02-10 22:15 ZeroCalamity: lmfao this is so quiet
2016-02-10 22:15 ZeroCalamity: I'm using, atm
2016-02-10 22:15 ZeroCalamity: 100% hs volume, 40% master
2016-02-10 22:15 ZeroCalamity: and I could barely hear it
2016-02-10 22:16 ZeroCalamity: but yeah you have some hs
2016-02-10 22:16 ZeroCalamity: although theres some kind of weird noise
2016-02-10 22:16 ZeroCalamity: which I don't think fits
2016-02-10 22:16 ZeroCalamity: oh that's the clap
2016-02-10 22:18 ZeroCalamity: those very quiet cymbals are a good sound
2016-02-10 22:18 ZeroCalamity: but you gotta increase the volume on that
2016-02-10 22:18 ZeroCalamity: and the clap sounds are not consistent
2016-02-10 22:19 ZeroCalamity: and also one is just randomly quite a bit louder than the others
2016-02-10 22:19 ZeroCalamity: 00:19:444 -
2016-02-10 22:19 ZeroCalamity: I think you used more than 1
2016-02-10 22:19 ZeroCalamity: 00:24:666 (24666|3) - this has a clap
2016-02-10 22:20 ZeroCalamity: it's too early
2016-02-10 22:20 ZeroCalamity: well it'll fit better if you also add a sound at the end of that LN
2016-02-10 22:21 ArcherLove: oh yeah
2016-02-10 22:21 ZeroCalamity: and the chord where it's louder is ok I guess
2016-02-10 22:22 ZeroCalamity: because the piano goes up
2016-02-10 22:22 ArcherLove: I think error from hitsound copier
2016-02-10 22:22 ArcherLove: lol
2016-02-10 22:22 ZeroCalamity: oh
2016-02-10 22:22 ZeroCalamity: that's really funny that it was noticed
2016-02-10 22:23 ZeroCalamity: I have master volume high now, music as low as possible and hs max
2016-02-10 22:23 ZeroCalamity: but it's notes like these00:35:666 (35666|0,35666|2,35777|1,35888|0,35888|2,35888|3) -
2016-02-10 22:23 ZeroCalamity: that make this difficult
2016-02-10 22:24 ZeroCalamity: I'd add that kind of bell/triangle sound to these notes
2016-02-10 22:24 ZeroCalamity: so that they become more noticable
2016-02-10 22:24 ZeroCalamity: I mean, this doesn't seem like the generic osu!mania map
2016-02-10 22:25 ZeroCalamity: so it's weird to play
2016-02-10 22:25 ArcherLove: I don't like generic osu!mania maps
2016-02-10 22:25 ZeroCalamity: for me at least
2016-02-10 22:25 ArcherLove: too technical so its playability so low
2016-02-10 22:25 ArcherLove: and LNs usage really bad
2016-02-10 22:25 ArcherLove: but well maybe people like it simple lol
2016-02-10 22:26 ZeroCalamity: when I said generic, I meant mapped to lead and chords for every 4/4 etc
2016-02-10 22:26 ZeroCalamity: like your other map
2016-02-10 22:26 ZeroCalamity: with some LNs
2016-02-10 22:26 ZeroCalamity: uh
2016-02-10 22:26 ZeroCalamity: sec
2016-02-10 22:26 ArcherLove: ah ok
2016-02-10 22:26 ArcherLove: I thought generic = general
2016-02-10 22:27 ZeroCalamity: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/886142 Presti - A Million Stars]
2016-02-10 22:27 ZeroCalamity: yeah I expressed myself incorrectly
2016-02-10 22:27 ArcherLove: oh that
2016-02-10 22:27 ZeroCalamity: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/783759 MikitoP feat.Matsushita - Kunoichi demo Koi ga Shitai]
2016-02-10 22:27 ArcherLove: well the song it self ask for that <_<
2016-02-10 22:28 ZeroCalamity: true
2016-02-10 22:28 ZeroCalamity: but I expected this to be mapped like that
2016-02-10 22:28 ZeroCalamity: one LN line following pianoa
2016-02-10 22:29 ArcherLove: rumia is o2jam mapper
2016-02-10 22:29 ArcherLove: me is not
2016-02-10 22:29 ArcherLove: so maybe our LN usage different
2016-02-10 22:29 ArcherLove: I can't seems figure out how o2jam mapper maps
2016-02-10 22:30 ZeroCalamity: I think it has more to do with the person and how they interpret the music
2016-02-10 22:30 ZeroCalamity: but I guess the game you started with does make you lean towards that kind of style
2016-02-10 22:31 ArcherLove: yeah <_<
2016-02-10 22:35 ZeroCalamity: I would move this note
2016-02-10 22:36 ZeroCalamity: 00:29:221 (29221|2) -
2016-02-10 22:36 ZeroCalamity: to 4
2016-02-10 22:38 ZeroCalamity: feels more balanced
2016-02-10 22:41 ArcherLove: which diff
2016-02-10 22:41 ZeroCalamity: oo MX
2016-02-10 22:43 ArcherLove: 1~7 or 0-6?
2016-02-10 22:43 ZeroCalamity: 1-7
2016-02-10 22:43 ArcherLove: oh well moved
2016-02-10 22:43 ZeroCalamity: into the middle
2016-02-10 22:44 ZeroCalamity: I found 2 more pattern
2016-02-10 22:44 ZeroCalamity: um
2016-02-10 22:44 ZeroCalamity: osu just died on me
2016-02-10 22:45 ZeroCalamity: anyway, I found 2 more patterns
2016-02-10 22:45 ArcherLove: rip
2016-02-10 22:45 ZeroCalamity: still oo MX
2016-02-10 22:46 ArcherLove: yeah
2016-02-10 22:48 ZeroCalamity: uh
2016-02-10 22:48 ZeroCalamity: hard to find AFTER playing
2016-02-10 22:48 ZeroCalamity: uh
2016-02-10 22:48 ZeroCalamity: right before the middle
2016-02-10 22:49 ZeroCalamity: you're using something like [13]2[13]
2016-02-10 22:49 ArcherLove: uh
2016-02-10 22:49 ArcherLove: where
2016-02-10 22:49 ZeroCalamity: and that pattern (or something very similar) appears twice with only one pattern between them
2016-02-10 22:49 ZeroCalamity: got it
2016-02-10 22:50 ZeroCalamity: 00:52:110 (52110|2,52110|0,52221|1,52332|2,52332|0) -
2016-02-10 22:50 ZeroCalamity: 00:53:444 (53444|2,53444|0,53555|1,53666|2,53666|0) -
2016-02-10 22:50 ZeroCalamity: and this
2016-02-10 22:50 ZeroCalamity: imo that pattern is tricky, and I don't have a problem with the pattern itself, but if you put a little bit more space between them
2016-02-10 22:50 ZeroCalamity: would be nicer
2016-02-10 22:52 ArcherLove: it's not worth moving so
2016-02-10 22:52 ArcherLove: lol
2016-02-10 22:53 ZeroCalamity: eh
2016-02-10 22:54 ZeroCalamity: '00:53:444 (53444|2,53444|0,53555|1,53666|2,53666|0) -
2016-02-10 22:55 ZeroCalamity: maybe this instead then?
2016-02-10 22:55 ZeroCalamity: oh
2016-02-10 22:55 ZeroCalamity: I'm retarded
2016-02-10 22:55 ZeroCalamity:
http://puu.sh/n3eB1/90ea05d856.png2016-02-10 22:55 ArcherLove: lool
2016-02-10 22:55 ZeroCalamity: link wasn't up yet, I just ctrl C ctrl V as soon as I pressed ctrl shift 4
2016-02-10 22:57 ArcherLove: `well I changed one piece with that
2016-02-10 22:57 ArcherLove: it's ok
2016-02-10 22:57 ArcherLove: it's ok
2016-02-10 22:57 ZeroCalamity: ah ok
2016-02-10 22:58 ZeroCalamity: I had one more spot, but I actually wouldn't change it
2016-02-10 22:58 ZeroCalamity: it's at the difficult part
2016-02-10 22:58 ZeroCalamity: so why make it easier when it's not bad
2016-02-10 22:59 ArcherLove: yeah
2016-02-10 22:59 ArcherLove: \o\
2016-02-10 23:00 ZeroCalamity: that's it
2016-02-10 23:00 ArcherLove: post it
2016-02-10 23:00 ZeroCalamity: okay