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Ayaka Ohashi - Oshiete Blue Sky

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Kyubey
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 5 ?????? 2015 ?. at 5:04:45

Artist: Ayaka Ohashi
Title: Oshiete Blue Sky
Source: ??????????
Tags: comet lucifer ending ed felia irreversible
BPM: 128
Filesize: 19010kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (3,06 stars, 241 notes)
  2. Normal (1,87 stars, 150 notes)
Download: Ayaka Ohashi - Oshiete Blue Sky
Download: Ayaka Ohashi - Oshiete Blue Sky (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Hard is a collab with Irreversible.
Okoayu
we did a few minor things i guess
23:11 Kyubey: okoooooooooooooooooooooo
23:11 Kyubey: hi oko
23:11 Okoratu: ?
23:11 Kyubey: mind a quick irccheck of my NH tvsize?
23:12 Okoratu: a check = bubble or a check = just look at and mod ? xd
23:12 Kyubey: it doesn't have any mods but i'm sure it's totally clear because you know russian mapping spirit
23:12 Kyubey: bubble
23:12 Kyubey: even if a hard is a collab with irre
23:12 *Kyubey is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/817856 Ayaka Ohashi - Oshiete Blue Sky]
23:12 Kyubey: this one
23:13 Kyubey: i'm a filthy tvsize mapper
23:14 Okoratu: lol
23:15 Okoratu: the only tv size i'll do for probably quite some time is that futa song
23:15 Okoratu: B)
23:15 Kyubey: o
23:15 Kyubey: feel free to call me to bubble it too
23:16 Okoratu: lanturn wanted to throw a few words on it so i'll wait for that i guess
23:16 Kyubey: oke
23:17 Okoratu: 00:32:333 (3,4,1) - is this irre
23:17 Kyubey: yes
23:17 Okoratu: pls tell me this is irre
23:17 Okoratu: he should never blame me for my spacing again if he does that
23:17 Kyubey: :D
23:17 Kyubey: should i send that to him?
23:18 Okoratu: f
23:18 Okoratu: 00:45:458 (2,3) -
23:18 Okoratu: isn't he hiding a repeat arrow
23:18 Okoratu: for
23:18 Okoratu: like
23:18 Okoratu: quite some time there?
23:18 Kyubey: lol
23:18 Kyubey: indeed
23:19 Kyubey: though it's visible with default skin
23:19 Kyubey: but hmmm
23:19 Okoratu: it's
23:19 Okoratu: making reading harder
23:19 Okoratu: for sure
23:19 Okoratu: lol
23:19 Okoratu: 01:05:379 (4,5,6) - can u not throw this over 1/6
23:20 Kyubey: what
23:20 Kyubey: it's 1/4
23:20 Okoratu: ???
23:21 Okoratu: the drumroll is 1/6
23:21 Okoratu: it's 4 sounds lol
23:21 Kyubey: or you mean you want me to map it 1/6?
23:21 Kyubey: well i don't want to make the comlpex rhythm
23:22 Okoratu: well then avoid the complex rhythm but pls no 1/4 over 1/6 if the only drumroll is 1/6 :(
23:23 Kyubey: i don't want to leave that place without something fast
23:23 Kyubey: and 1/6 is way too fast
23:23 Kyubey: so 1/4 looks goodd for me
23:23 Kyubey: 01:19:676 (4,5,1) - even irre ddid that
23:24 Okoratu: why :c
23:24 Kyubey: because we don't want to leave that sound
23:24 Okoratu: like he mapped the 1/6 in 00:48:348 (4) -
23:24 Kyubey: it's different
23:25 Okoratu: just slapping repeat sliders over them would work but i guess you "want ppl to click"
23:25 Kyubey: it has more beats, and it's in different rhythm pattern
23:26 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/l9zvy/2ec9c42c29.jpg or 1/2 would both work while being correct with the music but i guess this will go just like our last discussion about things
23:26 Okoratu: xD
23:27 Kyubey: thats definitely russian mapping
23:27 Kyubey: and you suggest german one
23:27 Okoratu: i d i d n 't k nwo irre is russia n
23:27 Okoratu: aasdf
23:28 Kyubey: thats a secret
23:28 Kyubey: tsss
23:28 Kyubey: don't tell anyone
23:28 Okoratu: your storyboarded hitsounds are way too loud
23:28 Okoratu: lol
23:28 Kyubey: thats a bug, reload the map
23:29 Okoratu: interesting bug
23:30 Kyubey: though irre did change that slider
23:30 Kyubey: i'll update when you tell
23:30 Kyubey: storyboard samples never worked well though
23:31 Kyubey: but i have to use them because irre's rhythm
23:32 Okoratu: 00:32:333 (3,4) - i'd really prefer more predictable low spacing there
23:33 Okoratu: would also fit the drop in intensity of that part
23:33 Okoratu: blablah
23:33 Kyubey: eeeh but that plays as 1/2
23:33 Okoratu: 01:00:223 (7,2,3) - stacking looks weird ingame, like it just looks a bit broken
23:34 Okoratu: eh but the part is more calm than the rest and it's 1/4 zz
23:34 Kyubey: but no gameplay difference
23:35 Okoratu: u mean the stack ?
23:35 Okoratu: no it just looks a bit dumb lol
23:35 Kyubey: i mean spacing
23:35 Kyubey: i'm fixing the stack
23:36 Okoratu: the difference is that it's harder to read than the rest of the part
23:36 Okoratu: because you could also assume that the repeat sliders are just repeating once and 1/2
23:36 Okoratu: apart
23:38 Kyubey: told irre
23:39 Okoratu: i have the urge to combo 00:48:973 (5) -
23:39 Okoratu: idk if it destroys something lol
23:40 Kyubey: http://kyubey.s-ul.eu/TKl10boe.png
23:41 Okoratu: nice explanation
23:42 Kyubey: probably he is tired
23:42 Kyubey: but i think better to not force if he doesn't want to change
23:43 Okoratu: which of the 2 things for his things i mentioned is that an answer to
23:43 Kyubey: 00:32:333 (3,4) -
23:44 Kyubey: he changed the hidden repeat slider
23:44 Kyubey: but doesn't want to change this
23:44 Okoratu: the other thing i said is that i think it'd be better if 01:06:083 (1) - was shorter to end where the vocal actually ends
23:45 Kyubey: you didn't
23:45 Kyubey: but i discussed long sliders with him beforee
23:45 Kyubey: he doesn't want to change them too
23:45 Okoratu: man i feel dumb modding this
23:46 Kyubey: why
23:46 Okoratu: i bring up some things, explain stuff and get "nope i don't want to change that"
23:46 Okoratu: instead of an explanation why it's necessary/needed
23:47 Kyubey: usually it goes as "because i like how does it look/sound now"
23:47 Kyubey: i often don't accept some things even if they're explained
23:47 Okoratu: i
23:47 Okoratu: uh
23:47 Kyubey: just because i prefer my way of doing that thing
23:47 Okoratu: know that
23:49 Okoratu: but 01:06:083 (1) - is literally long held vocal that ends on white tick and next vocal is on the red one after, and 01:17:333 (1) - is longer because the vocal is longer but i just don't see why the first slider the same length
23:49 Okoratu: buuuuuuuuuuuut ok
23:50 Kyubey: seems like he wanted to point at 01:07:254 - this with the slider end
23:50 Okoratu: wot
23:50 Kyubey: "ki" in the song
23:51 Kyubey: and he wanted to end it on the start of next word
23:51 Okoratu: i can see that but i don't get why
23:51 Okoratu: because the next one doesn't do that xD
23:51 Kyubey: probably for consistency with slider lengths
23:52 Kyubey: can i update? or something is still up?
23:52 Okoratu: modder spirit broken xd
23:52 Kyubey: :(
23:53 Okoratu: the only thing im seriously worried about is the 1/4 over 1/6
23:53 Kyubey: i did that before in some my map
23:53 Kyubey: it works well
23:54 Okoratu: someone once told me that that's not an excuse for continuing to do stuff that way
23:54 Kyubey: it's a hard after all
23:54 Kyubey: simplifying rhythm is a great excuse though
23:55 Okoratu: then you should also be allowed to map 1/6 over 1/4 in order to complicate rhythm
23:56 Okoratu: and one case is allowed while the other isn't xD
23:56 Kyubey: because people prefer undermapping and don't like overmapping
23:56 Kyubey: at least a lot of mappers
23:56 Okoratu: isn't overmapping
23:57 Okoratu: defined as mapping stuff that isn't supported by the song
23:58 Kyubey: maaaaan i won't change that to 1/6, it's totally fine with being 1/4 :(
23:58 Okoratu: i know you won't
23:58 Okoratu: im not even discussing that anymore I'm just collecting arguments for and against it for fun lmao
23:59 Kyubey: OH YOU
23:59 Kyubey: btw do you like my ringbells?
00:00 Okoratu: yes those are niceee
00:01 Kyubey: yay
00:05 Okoratu: so 2/1 in normal is supposed to not stack ??
00:05 Kyubey: why not
00:05 Kyubey: irre told me it's ok
00:06 Kyubey: they do even have the NCs
00:06 Kyubey: to make them readable
00:06 Okoratu: i just thought it's a bit odd to have that nothing more
00:06 Kyubey: what more
00:06 Kyubey: where
00:06 Kyubey: my russian rhythm choice is perfect
00:07 Okoratu: 00:43:114 (3,1) - can u move this 4x4y to not have them so hshort to touch
00:07 Okoratu: ing
00:08 Kyubey: oh stacks
00:08 Kyubey: moved
00:11 Okoratu: most of the stuff i wanted to mention is like
00:11 Okoratu: ultra minor
00:11 Okoratu: and i don't like that
00:11 Okoratu: and you don't like that and idk what else there is to do with this
00:11 Kyubey: nazi okoratu
00:12 Okoratu: no dap wanted me to nazi on his map
00:12 Kyubey: just leave these things
00:12 Kyubey: most of nazi stuff doesn't affect the gameplay
00:12 Okoratu: 2015-11-03 22:56 Yuii-: okay, i'm liking this!
00:12 Okoratu: 2015-11-03 22:56 Yuii-: can i bubble?
00:14 Okoratu: is the video filename telling me to stop looking at the folder
00:14 Kyubey: it does
00:14 Kyubey: but it says to not watch the video
00:15 Kyubey: i found it funny
00:15 Okoratu: nice there's a video
00:15 Kyubey: WHAT THE FUCK I LOOKED AT YOUR USERPAGE FUCKING LENNY SPIDERS SCARED ME
00:15 Kyubey: the video is cutee
00:15 Okoratu: tbh i just stole them from a youtube comment
00:16 Okoratu: on an Undertale ost that i want to map
00:16 Kyubey: rip toriel
00:17 Kyubey: meta sources in the creator words though
00:17 Kyubey: i didn't find anything like (tv size)
00:17 Kyubey: probably because album is not out yet
00:21 Kyubey: sooo should i update?
00:22 Okoratu: yes
00:25 Kyubey: updated
00:25 *Kyubey is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/817856 Ayaka Ohashi - Oshiete Blue Sky [Hard]]
00:28 Okoratu: the video really is cute
00:29 Kyubey: anime is cute too, even if it has some mecha
00:29 Okoratu: 00:00:458 - can u get rid of that green line in normal it doesn't do anything lol
00:31 Kyubey: rip greenline
00:32 Okoratu: am i dumb or is your normal-hitnormal the default normal-hitnormal
00:32 Kyubey: it's edited to be more quiet
00:32 Kyubey: updated
00:32 Okoratu: sure
00:34 Okoratu: the bling bling things have like 1~2 ms delay at most but i don't think you're going to cut that out right
00:34 Kyubey: yep
00:34 Kyubey: acceptable one is <5 ms
00:34 Kyubey: it was like 6 ms before, i was too lazy to cut it neat
00:36 Kyubey: ./╲/\╭( ͡° ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ͡°)╮/\╱\
00:36 Okoratu: video is pixelland but i guess there isn't any higher quality and you're lazy right
00:36 Kyubey: the hell
00:36 Kyubey: if i make the quality better it will be way too huge
00:36 Kyubey: fоnt change /╲/\╭( ͡° ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ͡°)╮/\╱\
00:37 Okoratu: you seem to have taken a liking in that thingy
00:37 Kyubey: thats a fucking lenny spiders
00:39 Okoratu: this song is so cute holy shit
00:39 Kyubey: \o\
00:40 Kyubey: thats why i decided to map it
00:40 Okoratu: so how do i bubble it now
00:40 Kyubey: o
00:40 Kyubey: lemme throw stars
00:40 Okoratu: hula once told me i should not speedqualify stuff
00:41 Okoratu: but i really don't care if the thing is ready throwing minor shit at it won't do anything
00:41 Okoratu: l o l
00:41 Kyubey: >listening to hula
00:42 Kyubey: +12
00:42 Kyubey: the fuck that star
00:42 Okoratu: intercepting with a star
00:42 Okoratu: xD
00:42 Kyubey: thats a combobreak
00:46 Kyubey: i wonder if it will be possible to get first post bubble and second one qualify
00:51 Okoratu: uh
00:51 Okoratu: i think video is out of sync with song
00:51 Okoratu: i tried a video offset around -220
00:51 Okoratu: idk if that's closer to the real thing
00:55 Kyubey: eeeeh, no, it was originally like that if you check it with other scenes that appear a little late
00:55 Kyubey: they appear late even in original video
00:56 Okoratu: i don't know
00:56 Okoratu: i never watched the original
00:56 Okoratu: so -220 was my best guess to make ~most~ things line up better but ok
00:56 Kyubey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXSCH8yLupk
01:05 Kyubey: probably you forgot to post so i'm here to remind you
01:50 Okoratu: lol that thing is terribly off
01:50 Okoratu: nice
02:17 Kyubey: sooooooooooooo
02:17 Kyubey: did you forget or something?
02:18 Okoratu: nop
02:18 Kyubey: you don't want to bubble? :(
02:18 Okoratu: i will
02:19 Kyubey: okee
ok let's go~
Gaia
yeah!
Okoayu
Nice nc
Satellite
?!
Topic Starter
Kyubey
How2first posts. Thank you!
Mao
Was this even modded...
Okoayu
Yes
Len
gratz
P o M u T a
o.o
Adinata28
Bearizm
I feel like the 12SP minimum requirement is really dumb and pointless. If a beatmap is fine, people shouldn't have to invest in SPs just to qualify it. And this beatmap is the perfect example for it. (or mine :3)

gratz with the qualify!
Akiyama Mizuki
how the fuck i can't even

The map is okay tho, I'm worried about spread. Hard is kinda more like Light Insane.
Sonnyc
Good work. Just some comments passing by:
  1. You could have put a better effort for the spread. The current Normal is somewhere between in the generally expected normal or hard diffs, which lacks in beginner-friendly aspects. The current Hard feels like an insane as it contains several streams and some huge jumps. This wide spread could work fine enough, but it was a big letdown not to map out potential difficulties for this song.
  2. Where did Irre mapped?
Normal:
  1. 00:32:333 (1) - 00:39:833 (3) - Combo consistency could've been better for your dominant combo pattern.
Hard:
  1. 00:35:145 (3,4,5,6,7) - Spacing could've been polished better in your consistent DS pattern.
  2. 00:45:458 (2,3,1) - This highly noticable spacing reduction only seems to be intended for the sake of the blanket pattern. I can't see any notable musical change here to support this reduced distance which only results in inconsistency and potential confusion in reading.
  3. 00:48:036 (3,4) - I understand (4) is a 1/6 rhythm, but the current placement feels too close each other. At least giving a full (or something higher than current) view for the reverse arrow of (4) could've been done.
Good enough. Just that the map didn't felt as "perfect" to deserve such speed qualify for me.
Topic Starter
Kyubey

bbj0920 wrote:

The map is okay tho, I'm worried about spread. Hard is kinda more like Light Insane.

Sonnyc wrote:

You could have put a better effort for the spread. The current Normal is somewhere between in the generally expected normal or hard diffs, which lacks in beginner-friendly aspects. The current Hard feels like an insane as it contains several streams and some huge jumps. This wide spread could work fine enough, but it was a big letdown not to map out potential difficulties for this song.
I think you exaggerate it, it's a 128 BPM song and map, and due to that speed map doesn't feel hard at all. Though I consulted to QAT about my normal, and they said it feels acceptable as the lower diff, and I'm sure newbies can handle that difficulty due to low BPM again.

Sonnyc wrote:

Where did Irre mapped?
00:30:458 - 00:50:614 and 01:06:083 - 01:21:083

Sonnyc wrote:

Normal:
00:32:333 (1) - 00:39:833 (3) - Combo consistency could've been better for your dominant combo pattern. indeed, missed that
Hard:
00:35:145 (3,4,5,6,7) - Spacing could've been polished better in your consistent DS pattern. irre
00:45:458 (2,3,1) - This highly noticable spacing reduction only seems to be intended for the sake of the blanket pattern. I can't see any notable musical change here to support this reduced distance which only results in inconsistency and potential confusion in reading. irre
00:48:036 (3,4) - I understand (4) is a 1/6 rhythm, but the current placement feels too close each other. At least giving a full (or something higher than current) view for the reverse arrow of (4) could've been done. irre
Spy
Wow
Bara-
What the
3 posts O.o
gg Kyubey
I wish I could do that once
Koiyuki
the first page scared me lol
Cote
Lol O.O
Okoayu
should have used tickrate 2 tbh
Topic Starter
Kyubey
Sounds weird with 3/4 sliders imo.
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