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Karen

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Karen 2015-11-07T23:38:47+00:00

every help is welcomed, i dont care about the ranking speed.
will check mods after wafu finishes his mod, thanks yuii and wafu.

Wafu

1,703 posts

Joined June 2011

Wafu 2015-11-08T12:00:54+00:00

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General

mp3 quality is insufficient. Respectively, though it says it is 192kbps, it's quality is less than that - that uselessly increases filesize. Its quality is less than 128kbps in real (a little bit, but this doesn't allow you to take bad quality and encode it to higher. For comparison, you may want to take a look at this:
Your "fake" 192kbps
Real 128kbps
Real 192kbps
See it caps frequencies on higher level? Re-encoding lossy source is also thing that does have effect on quality. For reference, you may check ziin's guide on how to know whether mp3 is good or bad. In that case, You'd need to see lossless quality of the song:
Screenshot
But, well, that's just an explanation, I want it to be clear to everyone instead of someone shouting: "Omg it was 192kbps, are you serious ;_;". You should use this mp3, which solves this problem pretty easily. (Offset change to -1529, respectively to 1079 as explained below)
Well... about the offset. Most of time, negative offset is wrong. And this is also the case. Downbeat is never out of song, the very first downbeat is on 1079 and that should also be offset. (I consider you changed the mp3 as explained above). First three drums are just anacrusis:

Wikipedia wrote:
In music, an anacrusis (also known as a pickup) is a note or sequence of notes which precedes the first downbeat in a bar in a musical phrase.
It was also explained on osu! many times, unless you need to change SV of anacrusis notes, it's just garbage to keep the offset negative. Just put it on first downbeat.
I don't want to explain this much, but most people don't know what are they doing when encoding and they do just "click this, change bitrate, yay" method, without realizing how does it work. Defaultly, x264/H.264 is supposed to render for strong machines and most likely, is set up for a blu-ray release. There are certain functions (CABAC, Deblocking filter), which are completely useless for anything that's not BD. I won't explain function in depth, it would take a very long time to explain how these two work in-depth and would probably require 1 A4 for each. If I am really simple, these are used to reduce filesize by removing some frames that are similar and just writing an instruction on how to build them - so basically in normal method, the graphics card just takes frames from file and shows them one by one. However these filters omit some frames so the graphics card does have to load basic frame and then calculate changes to the certain image to render other frames. tl;dr it's completely useless for PC users and just causes graphics card to load a lot. If possible, replace the current video with this one, it does have even a slightly better quality, but that doesn't matter that much as previous issue. I'll maybe make a whole post about why it is inappropriate for osu!. You video does also have a little render bug on start. New video offset should be -745
Change the gray combo for another color or darker gray. It blends pretty much in the white part of video.
Following suggestions use updated offset!

wkyik's Kurumi

00:49:340 (1) - Regarding your combo pattern, this one is inconsistent and is not used on anything special to be broken. It's just regular musical pattern, nothing like 01:04:992 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - this was cool, but previous didn't make sense with the song.

Mackenzie's Normal

00:07:927 (4) - This slider omits quite important snare on 00:08:252 - and respectively is only ignored snare in whole map, which is really insensible. Please, make 00:08:252 - clickable as it is definitely more important than soft bass with kick on 00:07:926 - and very quiet guitar with voice on 00:08:578 - . Best solution would probably be this:
Screenshot
New Combos are really variable and inconsistent. Moreover, considering it is normal, there shouldn't be anything like 8 long combo or something, HP retrieval is really terrifying on such long combos, especially on low diffs, apart from that, you sometimes used shorter combos in kiai - these were basically what you should go for in the whole map. If possible, use NC each 1 measure instead of 2.
00:21:948 - Useless inherited point, no change was done in comparison with previous point.

KwaN's Easy

00:44:122 (1,1) - I noticed all other 1/2 gaps had 1.0x spacing, just this one does have 0.66.x, respectively this is only one spacing change and I think this is a very big change in comparison with other patters like this. Rhythmically it doesn't even make sense to decrease spacing, when song gets stronger here.

IamKwaN

osu! Alumni

3,905 posts

Joined August 2012

IamKwaN 2015-11-10T13:00:38+00:00

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MirinH

726 posts

Joined January 2013

MirinH 2015-11-13T04:06:42+00:00

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Rizia

3,114 posts

Joined January 2012

Rizia 2015-11-14T05:43:20+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
[wkyik's Kurumi]

The clap you are using is too loud, especially during the intro.

00:55:906 (1,2) - If you compare that jump and the ones on 00:56:558 (2,3,4) - you will notice that they are almost the same, and for the sake of the kind of the difficulty you are mapping, this makes it quite counter-intuitive. Maybe the transition from (3,4) is a bit more "obvious", but still... you should look into that. keep, i think it still can clear to read
00:57:047 (3) - Clap on tail intended? I can't hear anything there. i feel kinda empty if i remove that, so keep
01:11:232 (10) - There's no clap there, but there's a clap 01:16:449 (9) - ... sooo which one are you going to put? added
01:11:069 (9,10,11) - Could be nerfed, imo, no need for such spacing. There's nothing in the music to emphasise that much, especially the transition from (11,1), if you analyze the following patterns you will see how the flow and spacing differ so much. jump pattern
.

Wafu wrote:
wkyik's Kurumi
00:49:340 (1) - Regarding your combo pattern, this one is inconsistent and is not used on anything special to be broken. It's just regular musical pattern, nothing like 01:04:992 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - this was cool, but previous didn't make sense with the song.
fixed

68565677560

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Karen

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Topic Starter

Karen 2015-11-14T06:34:17+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
[Insane]

00:06:830 (2) - I understand why you placed a circle, here, but I'm aware of the fact that there's nothing on the following patterns, like 00:12:047 - for example. i cant get your meaning here but if you mean this note is unnecessary here, i can't agree since it follows vocal and it's consistent with 00:17:264 (2) -
00:29:493 (6,7,1) - Linear flow? Are you sure you don't want to create any pattern here? You can make something similar to 00:54:275 (3,4,5) - looks better, in my opinion. K
01:13:514 (6,7,1) - Such a weird and poor flow over here. Maybe you can try something like: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3930826 . K
[wcx's Hard]

01:05:036 (5,6,7) - Can be a bit too tricky considering this is a Hard difficulty, what about NC'ing (6) for some readability? fixed for him

@wafu
everything fixed in my part except negative offset, i understand your meaning but i use negative offset for avoiding a bug that sometimes all timing points and inherited points deviate from ticks for 1-2ms and cant be repaired, so, i only want to keep this.
Thanks for your explanation and your mp3/video!

Yuii-

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Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2015-11-17T14:58:44+00:00

I will be waiting for Wafu before rechecking!

Wafu

1,703 posts

Joined June 2011

Wafu 2015-11-21T13:33:39+00:00

Well, I rechecked the map, and there are still 2 things that bother me. I provided offset for video, which was not used and thus is not sync with original ending. I checked offset I provided in 25% speed, this one is significantly more off. Please use the one provided above. Also the grey color is still blending with white color in video. Call me for bubble when fixed.

Karen

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Topic Starter

Karen 2015-11-21T13:44:10+00:00

Wafu wrote:
Well, I rechecked the map, and there are still 2 things that bother me. I provided offset for video, which was not used and thus is not sync with original ending. I checked offset I provided in 25% speed, this one is significantly more off. Please use the one provided above. Also the grey color is still blending with white color in video. Call me for bubble when fixed.

the offset you provided is used for the video you provided in your mod post, but i.already told you i couldnt update with that video so i asked you provide a new one with a smaller size, then i used it, set a new video offset which i thought was right. I cant believe myself now so could you provide a offset which is right?
about combo color, i already made it darker and it has no problem in my opinion, so could you provide a proper combo color as well if possible?
thanks for the recheck.

Wafu

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Wafu 2015-11-21T22:30:21+00:00

Oh, sure. -609 video offset, color, let's say: 105,105,105 if you want to keep grey.

Wafu

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Wafu 2015-11-22T14:40:36+00:00

We fixed video offset, combo color to not blend on default skin, removed pattern that would need to have too difficult rhythm, we also found out that offset does not cause bug anymore, so it does not have to be negative and does finally have corrected anacrusis. Seems fine.

Karen

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Karen 2015-11-22T14:42:41+00:00

Thanks

Yuii-

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Yuii- 2015-11-24T02:10:38+00:00

[wkyik]

00:21:133 (4) - Can you remove the clap on the repeat? It's a guitar sound, not a drum bass.
00:36:948 - You could map the triplets, there are 3 beats on the background music that could be perfectly mapped.
01:05:970 (3,4,1) - Are you sure about these jumps? I would decrease the distance between them, buuut... personal preference.

[Insane]

Love your hitsounds.

00:04:829 (3,4,5,6) - Can I suggest you a better flow-y pattern? http://puu.sh/lwxgu/4f56328440.jpg (6) is stacked with 00:06:296 (1) - by the way.
00:36:948 - Same as in wkyik.
01:04:666 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - I wouldn't do that if I were you and if you know what I mean. Basically using stacks on 1/4 the same way you are using them for 1/2.

[Alex]

00:44:123 (2,3) - Mapping them the same way while still having different sounds. What about making (3) a 1/2 slider without repeater?

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@Karen: Send me another Forum PM once you have replied to the mod!

Rizia

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Rizia 2015-11-24T13:23:48+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
[wkyik]

00:21:133 (4) - Can you remove the clap on the repeat? It's a guitar sound, not a drum bass. ok
00:36:948 - You could map the triplets, there are 3 beats on the background music that could be perfectly mapped. karen said it's 1/12 and i hate 1/12
01:05:970 (3,4,1) - Are you sure about these jumps? I would decrease the distance between them, buuut... personal preference. sure

!

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MirinH

726 posts

Joined January 2013

MirinH 2015-11-26T04:18:17+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
[Alex]

00:44:123 (2,3) - Mapping them the same way while still having different sounds. What about making (3) a 1/2 slider without repeater? there are still 1/4 beats even though its very small,i rly dont like to skip instrument&drum beats,so ill keep ><

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Karen 2015-11-26T05:46:17+00:00

fixed the 1st one
the 2nd one same opinion with wkyik
the 3rd one, i cant get your meaning of 'the same way' here so no change, and i think my pattern here has no problem o.o, if you insist on your opinion, give me an example then i can consider it again.

and updated ~

Yuii-

2,503 posts

Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2015-12-02T06:26:21+00:00

I told you to PM me