[Taiga] wrote:
bullshit! What is this notion, people don't change? This is so far away from reality as it could be. Whoever holds this belief just needs to open his eyes and talk to some people, really. Or just take a look at yourself. Are you the same person that you were when you were 12 years old? I don't think so. Why assume that this change-process just stops when you are older?
You should talk to someone, fast... for mixing real life and computer game. It's completly diffrent world.
I am not mixing anything up here.
Tell me what aspect of this difference prohibits taking
"repeated offenses against a working system for egoistic reasons with negative consequences for others" as a measure of personal development? And what aspect prohibits taking
a positive change regarding the views towards said offenses as a measure of personal growth?
It surely is a different world, but I don't see how the difference is significant enough to prohibit any kind of comparison in this case. Concepts like enjoyment and accomplishment are concepts that apply to both "worlds", and these are the concepts that are threatened by actions like his.
So yeah, do tell. Don't give me a quarter of an argument.
[Taiga] wrote:
We have whole legal systems founded on the idea of resocializing people. We have a whole academic branch, a scientific discipline that specifically targets controlled change in people for the better (therapeutic psychology). How can people still say that people don't change, in the face of low relapse-rates and the constantly reaffirmed efficacy of modern therapy?
Once pathetic, always pathetic? Just no. Get over yourself, you aren't better than all those people. People can change and have the potential to rise far above you, in all aspects of life.
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I am better than cheaters, i don't need any illegal programs to achieve something in any games.
They need it.
Reimu skilled? Then why he cheated?
As you said - open your eyes. You just support cheater who don't have personal honor to stop beging for another chance and deal with punishment.
Again glossing over the essential part of my post. The whole point was, that they cheated
back then. What you do, is taking this giant leap in assuming that the same does and will apply to the present and future. The "once a cheater always a cheater mentality", which is tied to the "people never change mentality".
I gave you a empirical argument as to how people change, you have yet to present me something.
And please, don't start talking about honor or pride. One mans honor is another mans shame. Honor way too elusive for being used in an argument. Even in this case, we probably have a completely different view of what is honorable. Try to make it more tangible if you want to use it as an argument and tell me what you really mean when you talk about honor.
I surely don't support cheating.