first you say that I can't compare cheating here to cheating IRL, then you do the exact same thing with making your poker-example? You are contradicting yourself.[Taiga] wrote:
Yes, you are mixing real life and computer game, to be more precise, you are applying real life behaviors into internet which is wrong.
Do you want argument, ok:
Let's say, you like to play poker. You go to big casino in Vegas, and then, you cards are not good. So you start cheating. First time went ok, noone catched you, you do this couple more time until someone catch you up. Cheating is cheating, you get law case into face, you get punished and forever blacklisted in whole Vegas. You either pay money for your crime or even get into jail.
My dear - it doesn't matter what kind of punishment you get, it's natural behavior for most of humans to go back into cheating becouse "i already know what i done wrong, now i am gonna avoid this and still cheat! ez money, ez life!". People do not change in this matter, never.
Do you think that any time Vegas will get you out from blacklist? Nooooo... you stay there forever as dirty cheater.
Same here - unbanning a cheater is a big slap into players face becouse obviously he destroyed someones gameplay.
You don't need to agree with me but don't try to convince me into changing my opinion.
As i said - for me cheaters are and will be cheaters forever. They should be banned forever. They don't deserve second chance, NEVER.
We already knew that. I believe that if he got unbanned, everyone who cheats should get a second chance (unless they created an account just to cheat).xXxC00k13z1xXx wrote:
reimu only got unbanned because he's popular
come at me bros
but it's not true at all, many people get unbanned and given a second chance, MANY.Friendan wrote:
We already knew that. I believe that if he got unbanned, everyone who cheats should get a second chance (unless they created an account just to cheat).xXxC00k13z1xXx wrote:
reimu only got unbanned because he's popular
come at me bros
*cough* *Mara* *cough*Riince wrote:
but it's not true at all, many people get unbanned and given a second chance, MANY.
there is no point in punishing people if they know they can just wait a year and be unbanned then. thinking someone "grows" during their banned time is fucking bullshit, they just don't do it again either because they know the next time is surely permanent or they got their fill of attentionwhoring from the first time. unbanning anyone without the actual rules having changed to be more lenient on the issue they were banned on is fucking stupid and shouldn't happen.B1rd wrote:
Because everyone makes mistakes so it's better to give people a chance to learn from them rather than to punish them forever.
just like all those people that commit crimes that know that they can get sent to jail for X amount of time but commit crimes anyway, then get thrown in jail. and NONE OF THEM ever learn from it since they can just do it again once they get out!Lewder wrote:
there is no point in punishing people if they know they can just wait a year and be unbanned then. thinking someone "grows" during their banned time is fucking bullshit, they just don't do it again either because they know the next time is surely permanent or they got their fill of attentionwhoring from the first time. unbanning anyone without the actual rules having changed to be more lenient on the issue they were banned on is fucking stupid and shouldn't happen.B1rd wrote:
Because everyone makes mistakes so it's better to give people a chance to learn from them rather than to punish them forever.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think everyone who hacks should be unbanned, because like you say, people will just hack knowing that they will get unbanned. People should only get unbanned if they are actually repentant. Of course it's impossible to know if they actually are, but the only thing to do really is for the staff to judge on a case by case basis; unban some and keep others banned, for a couple years at least.Lewder wrote:
there is no point in punishing people if they know they can just wait a year and be unbanned then. thinking someone "grows" during their banned time is fucking bullshit, they just don't do it again either because they know the next time is surely permanent or they got their fill of attentionwhoring from the first time. unbanning anyone without the actual rules having changed to be more lenient on the issue they were banned on is fucking stupid and shouldn't happen.B1rd wrote:
Because everyone makes mistakes so it's better to give people a chance to learn from them rather than to punish them forever.
people who hack to get banned because they throw a snowflake syndrome tantrum should not be unbanned no matter how much they regret it or how goodwilled they actually are. you can't just break the rules because you feel like causing drama. i'm going to stop caring about this issue now because debating here does not affect the staff's terrible decisions and just makes me think they're fucking idiots who dig their own grave for the next few years even more. give it a few years and more top scorers will get themselves banned for attention and these dumb weeaboo cunts will just defend them to no end and the staff has to read this shit. i feel for them but it's going to be their own fucking fault lmaoB1rd wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I don't think everyone who hacks should be unbanned, because like you say, people will just hack knowing that they will get unbanned. People should only get unbanned if they are actually repentant. Of course it's impossible to know if they actually are, but the only thing to do really is for the staff to judge on a case by case basis; unban some and keep others banned, for a couple years at least.
Riince wrote:
there's very few things a human being can do that can't be forgiven. Cheating on osu! is not one of them.
Riince wrote:
there's very few things a human being can do that can't be forgiven. Cheating on osu! is not one of them.
Seems I'm not the only one.balldoowell wrote:
I made my account after all the famous guys got banned so whatever
i was here for a short while to see them in actionballdoowell wrote:
I made my account after all the famous guys got banned so whatever
I was there to see them but on a different account.balldoowell wrote:
I made my account after all the famous guys got banned so whatever
IppE wrote:
I miss strager
Um, different account?Friendan wrote:
I was there to see them but on a different account.balldoowell wrote:
I made my account after all the famous guys got banned so whatever
