1. Hard (3.42 stars, 524 notes)
2. Lunatic (4.77 stars, 863 notes)
3. Normal (2.02 stars, 316 notes)

-Kanzaki wrote:

Metadata :

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  Add "Touhou Eiyashou ~ Imperishable Night" to the source. (delete the touhou from tags if you add it to the source) Done.
  
  You can add album to the tags as well its from Wishes Hidden in the Foreground Noises. Done.

General :

1. Audio file cannot be more than 192 bitrate so you have to change the audio file here you go i converted your file to 192 bitrate : mp3 file Done. Edit: The timings got messed up with your file. I got it from the same source in 128kbps instead.
   
2. You can close letter box during breaks. Done.
   
3. I don't know why did you use that much red timing points some are has same offset and bpm don't use them unnessecary for any volume, custom hitsound,SV change or kiai times you can use unherited timing points (green timing point). Maybe find someone to check your timing i am not really good at it.I used it to change volume, then realized that green timing points do the same. I'll switch them to greens.
   

DJVinyl wrote:

From Modding Queue!

Like I said Normals wont be Modded
(unless u want a really crappy mod of Normal)

[Hard]
00:13:359 (1) - ask this slider to get bent! Srsly doe this slider needs to be bent a bit. Done
00:18:421 (2,3,4) - you can use a slider instead of the 2 circles to make it less insane and more hard. Done
00:19:359 (5) - NC? Done
00:21:421 (1) - Please refer to 00:18:421 Done
00:23:859 (7) - NC? Done
00:26:859 (1,2,3,4) - Make this less spaced so mediocre players can hit them more easier Done
00:28:359 (1,2,3) - The two sliders are not like eachother, you can c+p and move the slider around to make it look alike00:38:859 (3) -
00:35:859 (1,2) - ^00:38:859 (3) -
00:37:359 (1,2) - You can make these two sliders blanket eachother00:38:859 (3) -
00:38:859 (3,4,5) - At least make the sliders look symmetrical00:38:859 (3) -
00:50:484 (4) - Symmetrical! What do you mean? I changed it and curved it the other way in the meantime.
00:51:046 (5.6) - Straight Sliders? Done
00:51:984 (7,1) - Make them blanket?and Done
00:53:296 (5,6) - Bwanket? Done
00:54:056 (7) - That Slider is all lone, make it closer to the other notes? Done
00:57:046 (6) - The NC actually starts here Done
01:27:234 (6) - NC Done
01:30:046 (3,4,5) - BLANKET ALL OF THEM Done
01:32:484 (3,4) - MOAR BWANKETS Done
01:40:734 (2,3,4) make these sliders flow moar Not sure what you mean, I rearranged them to follow a softer curve though.
01:42:046 (5) - NC Done
02:08:109 (3,4,5) - " The Pieces of dough cannot touch eachother" pretty self-explanatory Done, also changed 02:07:359 (1)
02:10:359 (1) - You just put a huge hunk of Spinner here and you could of mapped some more Will map more in a future update.
02:32:484 (5,1) - plz refer to 02:08:109 Done
02:47:855 (7) - NC?Done
02:52:355 (7) - NC?Done
02:59:855 (7,8,9,10) - Make them less spaced you already kno whyDone
03:18:417 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^Done

[Insane]
The Beginning is so jumpy its self damn I intended for that. Were the jumps hard to read?
00:25:350 (6) - NC
00:30:609 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - 4 Is NC
00:54:984 (7,8) - Best if u leave them as circles
00:59:109 (7) - NC

You are better off calling Insane, Extra and making a new insane. Definitely will consider. The current Insane diff does follow more Extra criteria than Insane. I'll keep it as is for now, and do another Insane if I get inspired.
I was content with the rest
I wasnt very strict with this mod.
I luv the jumps doe.

A Mystery wrote:

don't be mad when I don't.

emmy wrote:

oh! you used the best version of this song. i'm glad
if i catch you online i'll try and irc mod!

shanedro wrote:

Here's my difficulty: http://www.mediafire.com/download/58rl4 ... d_(Repr1se)_[shanedro's_Easy].osu

P.S, PM me if you find any problems with it, and I'll fix them ASAP

shanedro wrote:

Mod for insane:
00:25:353 (1) - Instead of jumps, make them a little closer. It would be okay in any BM above Insane Done, fixed other jumps as well
01:04:353 - Make spinner end here Done
Make this a Lunatic map, and let someone do insane for you, because this is just expert More below
04:07:355 (1) - Woah, no wonder the AI made this expert! Give the player a break in between combos I thought Insanes had streams similar to this... but then again not really. Remapped.

Repr1se wrote:

A Mystery wrote:

don't be mad when I don't.

More modding experience for me. I don't lose anything.

1. Timing: Fine
2. Metadata: Remove 'in' from tags, it's a 2 letter word and is already in the title , add shanedro to tags.
3. Folder: Clean
4. Other: Your volume on hitsounds is really high, I would tone it down.

Slider

[ Space ] wrote:

Hey, m4m

Since I don't believe the map is near for ranking, my mod shall be a generalised one with comments on the overall mapping style. I don't think so either. :p

[General]

1. Timing: Fine
2. Metadata: Remove 'in' from tags, it's a 2 letter word and is already in the title , add shanedro to tags. See below
3. Folder: Clean
4. Other: Your volume on hitsounds is really high, I would tone it down.Done, reduced all volumes by 15%

[shanedro's Easy]

I would suggest a remap, the inconsistent distance snap is one thing, you need to keep it consistent for the new players to adjust. It is really jarring to have an inconsistent DS because they won't know when to go further and when not to. Another issue is the flow, it is generally inconsistent aswell and slider synergy isn't great either, I can see it has potential definitely, though. The slider velocity is extremely high for a difficulty of this standard which in turn boosts the DS making it abhorrently high.

To begin it, 00:13:353 (1) this isn't snapped. You appear to be following your own beat rather than the beat of the song. shanedro might not be able to finish it, more details later.

[Normal]

You should use consistent sliders for an increased flow and better looks, it is courtesy to use these because it makes the map more fluid and enjoyable because it will increase flow, here are a few examples

FROM:

SPOILER

http://puu.sh/iJupf/40f6a6a49a.jpg

TO:

SPOILER

http://puu.sh/iJurI/faecf6a3b1.jpg

00:14:853 (1,2,3) - Stacking like this creates a confusing experience for the players, they will not know how to deal with a complex look such as this, you basically do a slider, DS note then stack which they won't be able to comprehend very well.

00:17:853 (1) - I would curve this for a nice blanket

00:38:103 (2,3) - Blanket this for a nicer effect

00:40:353 (5) - Wouldn't this look better?: Can't see screenshot

Slider

00:46:354 (6,1) - This overlap isn't too great, it looks a little confusing to read and won't look too good in play.

00:51:040 (3) - What? It skips the downbeat and is totally random, players will fall on his hurdle for sure.

00:54:603 (1,2,1,2) - Keep consistent spacing on your sliders so that it plays better.

I would keep these in mind ^^^ as they appear frequently within your map and there is a lot to point out (no offence x.x) No problem. I clutched that difficulty so it's rough. All changes used.




To be honest, not much I can say in regards to the other difficulties, you need to take heed to my suggestions from the normal as it's pretty much the same throughout the whole difficulty.

Snepif wrote:

Okay then here's my mod!

[General]

I am pretty sure you've got a coupld of offsets wrong, like for example at 03:19:355 (1) - that whole section should be like 10-20 ms later (move red line 10-20 ms forward). I haven't checked the rest of the lines but you should check them at x0.25 speed. I don't see anything there. I had a timing overhaul that removed all but one red timing. I did change it and moved it forward 10ms.

Also what's up with the hitsounds? I hear none I did hitsound. I'm not happy with it right now though, so I'll go through and re-hitsound everything. Possibly a redownload would fix that?

[Normal]



New combos are kind of a mess, and rhythm could be improved in some parts! Nothing too serious though.
Actually now that I've modded like 2 minutes of this diff I can tell you that it has A LOT of rhythm issues. You should take a moment to analyze what you mapped and listen to the music - does it fit? is it necessary? - that kind of questions are the ones you should strive to answer. Currently working on a Normal overhaul. Thanks for the notes, I'll keep them in mind when testing. I'll keep your changes in mind, though I can't use all of them because it's a complete remap. Done + remap means "done in remap"

00:13:359 (1,2) - This curve feels awkward, try curving (1) a bit more so it looks simillar to (2) Remap
00:14:859 (1,2,3) - I /think/ this is way too complicated and confusing for the easiest diff of the mapset. I know it's within ranking criteria since it's 2 stars, but I suggest you re-think stuff like this, taking into account they will be played by beginners. Remap
00:16:358 (5) - NC Done
00:17:859 (1) - Remove NC Done
00:19:359 (3) - NC Done
00:22:359 (7) - NC Done
00:17:859 (1) - Try adding a middle point and curving it upwards so it creates a blanket with (2)?Remap
00:20:484 (4) - I'd try to avoid this stack, specially since you have another one before but faster than this one (1/2 instead of 1/1), which is incredibly confusing for beginners. Remap
00:22:359 (7) - As a rule of thumb, you want to avoid more than 1 repeat on long sliders because nobody expects them. Not really necessary but I think it'd be a LOT better if it had only 1 repeat and then add a note or something. Done + Remap. Also changed 00:56:112 (3)
00:24:609 (1) - Remove NC done
00:25:359 (2) - NC here done
00:28:358 (1) - Would play better like this http://puu.sh/iIx6x/db9c977b04.jpg remap
00:31:734 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This whole section is a mess for the easiest diff of the mapset. Music-wise, nothing has changed, yet you changed the rhythm you were using - highly unrecommended for Easy/Normal
00:40:359 (5) - NC here done
00:41:483 (1) - Remove NC done
00:43:358 (1) - Again the same rhythm thing. Why did you put a 3/4 slider here? The rhythm hasn't changed from the previous 1/1 patterns, and furthermore, there is NO SOUND AT ALL in the music at the slider's repeat. Highly confusing and unnecessary for beginners. You switched rhythm for no reason AND overmapped Remap
00:46:358 (6,1) - Uhmm is this overlap a mistake? Don't overlap like that please. Remap
00:48:984 (x) - I'd add a note here done
00:49:359 (1,2) - Move (2) a bit so it doesn't touch (1) Remap
00:51:609 (4,5) - You should avoid this in the easiest diff of the mapset. Maybe remove (5) and make (4) be 1/1. done
00:54:609 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - This whole part is kind of a mess for the easiest diff of the mapset.. why wouldn't you keep mapping like before, with 1/1 and ocassional 1/2s? Done + remap
00:59:484 (6,7) - Really unnecessary for the easiest diff. Done, changed so repeating slider + note
01:01:359 (1) - Shouldn't this end at 01:02:859? Done
01:26:109 (2) - Extend it to the white tick Done
01:30:046 (3) - Make it start on the previous white tick and then extend it 1/2 more Done, also changed 01:30:613 (3)
01:43:359 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - What I mean is stuff like this. It looks fairly easy but it's actually complicated for a new player. I'd stick to 1/1 patterns with ocasional 1/2s. Done + remap
01:51:234 (1,2,3) - This is unrankable, you need to have more space between (1) and the spinner. Removed (1) and (3)
01:59:109 (2) - Add note? Done + remap
02:33:609 (3) - This is confusing because the way you put (3) and (4), makes it look like (3) has 2 repeats. Done + remap
02:41:668 (3) - Add note... Added slider
02:52:355 (1,2) - Now it's quite the opposite of 02:33:609 (3) -, this looks like (3) of that pattern but it DOES have 2 repeats. Consistency please? Took off one repeat + remap
03:03:605 (4,5) - Same here Took off one repeat + remap
03:29:855 - Add note or slider here please Added
03:38:855 (8,9) - Move (9) somewhere else. Right now it looks like (8) has an additional repeat buit it does not.done + remap
03:40:355 (2,3,4,5) - Extremely confusing for new players. Two stacks but they are different - that is super hard to read for a new player. Make them both 1/2 or both 1/1 or just unstack them. Removed 4, made 3 repeat.

Uhmm.. you should map the end? I'll try. I can't think of anything fitting other than a 1/2 stream. T_T

Okay this diff has a lot of issues so I can't point them ALL but I hope this works as a guide... Thanks. I hope you'll like the remapped Normal. It'll be in an update.

[Hard]

We have NC issues here too.

00:16:359 (5) - NCDone
00:17:858 (1) - Remove NCDone
00:19:359 (5) - NCDone

..etc you get the idea right? Yes. I'll go through the remainder of the song.

00:20:859 (9,1,2,3) - This flows REALLY awkwardly: Can't see it, I probably changed it already
Right now - http://puu.sh/iIzHV/fefb9a17c7.jpg
Suggestion: http://puu.sh/iIzLK/4745b8580d.jpg (then rearrange following objects)
00:26:858 (1,2,3,4,5) - This curve could be a lot smoother http://puu.sh/iIzTN/2e26bb7a84.jpg Done
00:32:108 (2,3,4) - Same here (then rearrange following objects) http://puu.sh/iIzWa/bb81fa84a7.jpg Done
00:44:108 (2,3,4) - Try to think of a pattern that doesn't look so messy?Done
00:53:484 (6) - Flows better like this http://puu.sh/iIAwh/478738b00f.jpg Done
00:57:421 (1,2,3) - Try to think of a pattern that flows better with these 3 sliders Can't see it, probably changed as well
01:00:046 (1) - Move farther away from the previous note Done
01:29:109 (1,2) - Separate them a bit more.Done
01:36:609 (5,6) - Maybe slider streams?Make 5 and 6 into triplets. I don't think slider streams are fit for Hard (I personally think they're harder than circle streams)
01:39:046 (1,2,3,4,5) - Fix this: http://puu.sh/iIBUB/3fb1aca01f.jpg Removed 5 and rearranged notes.
01:45:046 (5,6) - I'd move these 1/2 forward and add a note here, so they start on white ticks. Done
02:04:359 (1) - Move farther away from previous note Made it into a blanket for 2.
02:05:484 (5) - Would be a lot better if you moved this note to x236 y24 Agreed. Done
02:07:359 (1,3) - Please this looks really ugly don't overlap like this D: Expanded so they don't touch. Also widened the slider curves.
02:10:359 (1) - This spinner is unnecessary long, looks lazy, please shorten it and map the kiai. Will do.
02:32:484 (5,1,2) - This is ugly don't overlap (5) like that. I don't see it, probably changed earlier
02:35:109 (6,1) - Same here I don't think it overlaps
02:36:609 (3) - Looks better like this http://puu.sh/iIUsB/6f59a4ce02.jpg Done, also remapped everything until 02:41:864
02:40:265 (x) - Add note? I don't have triplets with circles in the map so I'd like to keep that consistent
03:02:855 (5,6,7,8,1) - This curve could be a lot smoother like this http://puu.sh/iIUJO/99cbde97cf.jpg Done, also remapped next combo
03:06:417 (4) - Same here like this http://puu.sh/iIUMA/5d8a464859.jpg Done
03:20:855 (1,2) - Make them equal and then mirror Done
03:19:730 (7) - Move down and left so it flows better Done, also moved 8 and 10 so they're easier to read
03:25:355 (7,8) - Chaning (7) to a 1/2 slider fits the music a lot better Done
03:26:667 (2,3,4,5,6) - Could make this curve a bit better? Done, also remapped some of the next combo
03:29:855 - Very important! add a note or slider here! Done
03:31:729 (3,4) - Try to place these in such a way they don't touch like that :3Done
03:33:979 (4,1,2,3) - This flows and looks a lot better: http://puu.sh/iJBdx/eec04114e5.jpg Done, redid some of the remaining combo
03:35:855 (1,2,3,4,1) - Same here: http://puu.sh/iJBfo/9b4375b185.jpg Done, also changed 03:38:302 (4)
03:37:730 (2,3) - Try to move these like this? http://puu.sh/iJBgb/b955dee70b.jpg Done
03:38:480 (5) - 2 Repeat sliders longer than 1/4 are not a good idea unless the music specifically suggests so! try removing all repeats and put a slider at the big white tick. This way the big white tick is clickable and you get rid of the 2 repeat thingDone
03:44:855 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Maybe too much singletap for a Hard? Done, changed 3,4 and 7,8 to sliders
03:48:980 (5) - Stack with (3) end I decided on keeping blue ticks out of the question and having sliders for triplets.
03:49:730 (2,3,4) - This flows better: http://puu.sh/iJBmV/5ca19eda0e.jpg Done
03:58:355 (5) - NCDone
03:59:855 (1) - Move it so it doesn't touch (8)?Done

What about mapping the end? D: Like above, I'm not sure what to do, but I'll give it a go. At this point I'm thinking of 1/2 taps with a few sliders and slider triplets.

[Insane]

You have some rhythm and flow issues but I can't point them ALL so I'll give you examples and you can work them out from there.

00:13:353 (3,4,5) - In order to follow the music in a better way and avoiding that break, try this rhythm instead: http://puu.sh/iJBtT/f646347ed3.jpg

I think it fits the music a lot better. Do the same for the following patterns if you want. I'll change some. It feels more natural as well.

00:18:603 (4,5,6) - Make this more jumpy? Done
00:23:853 (1) - Ehh this is pretty bad, you should move this farther away from the last note, right now it looks like a 1/2 distance but it's 1/1.Done
00:26:853 (1) - Same here Done
00:24:228 (3) - This could be an example of a flow issue. Already changed 1 from previous. I corrected the flow however.
Right now: http://puu.sh/iJBEn/a436e96cf2.jpg
My Suggestion: http://puu.sh/iJBGj/8246b3c92a.jpg
It's a really small thing but it's the little things like these that add up to make an uncomfortable map to play in the long run. By fixing these things your map will feel a lot better.
00:27:978 (7,1) - Imagine the same lines I drew in the last suggestion here. This way plays better: http://puu.sh/iJBLk/e09f2b5eb0.jpg Done
00:29:853 (1,2,3,1) - Try to space all these notes a bit more, could be confusing as they are now, since they are 3/4 away from each other.Done, repositioned stream after the jumps
00:35:853 (1) - You could have mapped 1/3 sliders here! To follow the drums Thanks for that. Sounds more accurate than 3/4, 3/2
00:38:853 (5) - Why is this so close to (4) while being 1/1 away? You need to either stack it with (4) or move it farther away. Stacked
00:41:478 (1,2,3) - It's almost equally distant to the previous note and the following slider, but it's 1/1 away from the note and 1/2 away from the slider. Make this clearer like this: http://puu.sh/iJBUU/e3c4373ec9.jpg Moved slider, didn't make the triplet vertical. Feels better to me like that
00:51:041 (9) - Too close to (8)!
00:49:353 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This whole section looks like you placed the notes in a kinda random manner. But don't worry this is really common for new mappers and I have done it too, that's why I'm pointing it out. Try to think of nice patterns, nice jumps, curves that flow, whatever, but try to avoid these random patterns please! It's supposed to look like two parallelograms.
00:57:041 (5,6,7) - Too close to (4) Done, also moved the next slider
00:58:353 (3) - Too close to (2) and also why did you leave that empty space between (2) and (3)? The possibilities are great, you can put streams or notes or whatever. Made (2) into 2 sliders, added triplet at the end. Anything more sounds like too much for an insane.
01:00:040 (1) - Too close to the last object. Done
01:01:353 (1) - Okay this is just... I don't think you can rank an insane with a spinner like this. Too long and you can hear pretty mappable music too. So you should really shorten it and map please! Will do.
01:25:353 - There should be a note here Can't believe I missed that. >_> that's why we have modding.
01:30:041 (2) - Too close to (1). Please, please, pleeeease take into account rhythm distance when mapping.Will go through and double check everything.
01:37:541 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This note placement looks kinda random as well. Try to think of nice patterns. This is just an example, you can do whatever you like: http://puu.sh/iJCkE/c9bc9f0dd2.jpg Rearranged, added triplet at end.
01:45:041 (5) - Too close to (4) Done
01:48:041 (1) - Too close to the last note Done
01:48:041 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Also this flows bad so I thought I could draw more lines here, just so that you have more examples (there are A LOT of bad flow examples in this map but I can only point out some examples): Redone, but made it curve down
Right now: http://puu.sh/iJCsI/d9836c77a7.jpg
Suggestion: http://puu.sh/iJCzm/24a22e0f86.jpg
See, the pattern hasn't changed that much from your original idea, but now it feels WAY better to play. The way you had it before added artificial difficulty for no musical reason, know what I mean? Or if you want to avoid dull curves you could even go for something like this http://puu.sh/iJCDd/ed885f478a.jpg
As a general rule (with exceptions of course), curves and zigzags in straight lines feel great, what doesn't feel good is when you have a bump in a straight line or in a curve! Will take note.
01:51:417 (2,3) - Should be a note in the blue tick between (2) and (3) too Done, moved 1 for flow
01:58:353 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is an example of a pattern that flows well, good job Well, there's one thing going for me. haha
01:59:854 (1,2,3,4) - Now this here, I'm not so sure, it feels uncomfortable to play. Try this: http://puu.sh/iJCLx/643deff0e3.jpg Done
02:04:166 (1) - Oh and remove NC here and add it on next noteDone
02:09:417 (6,7) - This flows badly too! Done, but moved down so it creates a "figure 8"
Right now: http://puu.sh/iJCPK/bfcf379e37.jpg
Suggestion: http://puu.sh/iJCX9/fde8794fe2.jpg
Note that this is not a super bad flow example but it still works as an example, am I right?
02:10:354 (1) - Again spinner to long for no reason, looks lazy Will map more
02:49:355 (1,2,3) - These 3 notes are really uncomfortable to play, because of the sudden spacing decrease from (2) to (3) without any real reason for doing so! Done
02:50:854 (1,2,3,4) - Notice how the flow line would have a weird bump in the triplet? Try to fix that!Done
02:53:854 (1,2) - There's a lot that could be mapped between (1) and (2) Done
03:06:603 (5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - The stream and following notes flow a lot better like this http://puu.sh/iJD8N/89f41db979.jpgDone
03:26:668 (5,6,7) - Too close to (4) ;_;Done, also made more of a triangle, hopefully better reading
03:41:855 (1,2) - Should mirror each otherDone
03:52:167 (6) - Maybe (6) should be closer to the following slider and further away from (5)Done
04:11:105 (9) - Move the ending dot to x420 y188Done
04:13:355 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This whole stream could be much smoother in terms of shape. Try to make the shapes a little bit smoother :3Done
04:18:605 (3) - Obligatory NC hereDone

Okay so there's a lot to be improved on this diff but that's common for a new mapper so don't panic :3 What I suggest is that you look at everything I said as an example and try to apply for ALL the rest of the diff - all the flow, rhythm, whatever-issues, yes? And catch me in-game if you have any more doubts.

hanyuu_nanodesu wrote:

Wow that mod @-@
Why do I always have to mod after such a long mod? >.<
Anyway, M4M from my modding Q~
My map if you lost the link : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/322414

Let's start~

[General]

1. Song setup -> design, disable "widescreen support" it's only used if you have storyboard Didn't know that, thanks
2. You don't seems to set combo colors don't you? (song setup -> colours) Try setting one to support the background color more. I suggest using blue, turquoise, purple, dark red, and whatever else you'd like to have. Done. Thanks for the suggestions as well. I have bad artistic sense. Could you check the colors after the update, to see if they're fitting?
3. It's weird that you put audio preview at the middle of kiai. I suggest to put it at the start like here 01:51:801 Done

[shanedro's Happy Sorrow]

1. This is easy right? As long as I remember difficulty name need to show difficulty level unless it's the hardest diff (custom difficulty name is allowed as long as it indicates the diff level, like "beginner" or something) and I don't think "happy sorrow" actually indicates diff level....
   

   Osu! ranking criteria wrote:

   A difficulty's name must indicate its level of difficulty, with the exception of the hardest level of difficulty in a set.

   
   since it's in the rules, it might be unrankable....
2. Even if this is easy (and is actually allowed), you better map the entire song. It might be boring to map Easy, but it's not boring for new players to play it.
3. Check AiMod (ctrl+shift+A) and tick the "Check distance snap" option. You have some DS problem, you have to fix them, Easy may not have any.
4. Don't use HP 0.... Use at least 1 or 2...
5. OD is the same ^
6. And AR 5 is too high for Easy, usually Easy uses 2 till 3
7. And yeah, SV 1.20 is pretty high for Easy as well... Usually they use 1.00. But this one is not really matter.
8. Ctrl+A of your map : http://puu.sh/iKldR/ddc465ed3d.jpg you seem to avoid the bottom left corner, why is that? xD Try to use the space effectively, don't map only at one point and let the other points empty.
9. 00:20:488 You leave so many place blank, why is that? The music doesn't change, better keep the rhythm at the same frequency.
10. 00:36:613 (2) - Changing SV at Easy is not allowed.
11. 00:58:363 (1) - Wiggle slider, avoid using it as Easy as well. And I don't think you need all of those insane slider tick xD
12. 01:13:363 (1) - Yeah, avoid this too. This to Easy is like 1/4 reverse slider to Hard and I think it's pretty hard. Just use 1 (max 2) reverse on Easy.
13. 01:19:363 (3,4) - Terrible overlap.
14. 01:55:363 (3,1) - ^
15. I agree, maybe try to remap this (again if you already did). Here some reason : First; random placing. You seem to place the note anywhere you like as long as the DS is correct causing a lot of overlap and untidy looks. Try to make the look appealing, use some style like blanket, stacking, slider art or something else. Second; random rhythm. You seem to put note randomly as well and not really fitting to the song, just like a "filler". Try to listen to the song more. Map according to the sound you hear from the song. For short sounds use circle, for long ones use slider and so on. Third; random hitsound... *sigh* I can't really explain this one xD Map while keeping this in mind; "this map should follow and cover the song nicely while at the same time looks nice and should be fun to play it so the players would like it." Sorry to sound harsh, but this map does need a lot of improvement >.<

I'll have shanedro look at this. Thanks!

[Normal]

1. Do the same thing as Easy ^ to check DS problem. You have kinda lot of it... You have to fix them all, Normal may not have DS problem as well. I'll continue to check DS after finishing the other changes.
2. 00:14:862 (1) - Remove NC here since at the next rhythms you seem to NC every 2 big white ticks, try to make that consistent. Done
3. 00:15:424 (2,3) - Actually you better avoid this kind of stack on Normal. I think it's kinda hard to read for new players since they are hidden. It would be alright if you stack at slider's head, but maybe not on tail. Try to move them. Or maybe use 1/2 slider to make it easier.Done
4. 00:15:988 (4,2) - Stack for neater look (this is invisible stack, won't really affect the gameplay)Done, had to remap the rest of the combo + some of the next, but overall looks better
5. 00:22:362 (1) - Better curve this the other way so it would blanket (3)'s tail and make it looks neater. Try to make a nice triangle shape with them as well. http://puu.sh/iKmd1/d61b7c4e7c.jpg Conflicts with the change I made above. Will consider when testing.
6. 00:23:488 (2) - if you do that ^ move it to blanket with (1) http://puu.sh/iKmgB/cda9ced01c.jpg
7. 00:23:862 (3) - If you do that ^ move this thing like this http://puu.sh/iKmkn/5cbb3d708a.jpg and don't forget the triangle.
8. 00:24:612 (4) - DS this thing afterwards. Try to blanket it with the next (1) http://puu.sh/iKmoU/989ba84153.jpg and keep the triangle shape.
9. 00:25:362 (1,2) - Fix blanket. I will only mention this one, if you find any other blanket problems, fix it yourself, okay Didn't notice that. Fixed
10. 00:28:363 (1) - Ehh, it don't really looks good. Usually I do it like this http://puu.sh/iKmw3/e353ca6151.jpgDone
11. 00:32:112 (2) - This slider don't really fit the rhythm imo .-. keep your notes at white and red tick at Normal unless there's a significant sound.Done, remapped next two combos to fit DS
12. 00:32:863 (1,1) - terrible overlap >.< usually I do it like this http://puu.sh/iKmDn/776eb8d486.jpg and the triangle. Fixed in remap mentioned
13. 00:35:487 (2) - if you do that, place this at where 00:33:988 (2) - wasFixed in remap mentioned
14. 00:35:863 (1,1) - You can make these two identical and make it neater. Kinda like this http://puu.sh/iKmIH/df184ab92a.jpg Done
15. 00:38:112 (2) - DS this thing.Done
16. 00:40:362 (1,2) - Another not recommended stack.Fixed, remapped this and next combo
17. 00:40:362 (1,1) - Stack, for neater looks. DS conflict
18. 00:43:363 (1) - You need to add finish at the head, you can clearly hear the cymbal sound. Done
19. 00:44:863 (4,6) - Again, you can make this identical. http://puu.sh/iKmQG/229a68f86c.jpg Done
20. 00:52:362 (1) - Wat... DS dude. Done and remapped next few combos
21. 01:30:613 (3) - Like this? http://puu.sh/iKmW7/5df21e2450.jpg to complete the whole form. Done
22. 01:35:488 I think you need a note here, feels empty without it.Done and remapped combo
23. 01:42:051 (5,6) - Looks untidy, consider to move (6) Distance snap conflict, though I did make (5) curve the other way.
24. 01:45:801 (8,9) - Yes, just make those circles you stack at the slider tail like this; it's easier to read.
25. 01:51:988 I think you better add a circle here, as a support before chorus and to follow the big drum sound. Or just move this note 01:51:612 (1) - here since there's only faint sound at where it is now.Done
26. 01:58:363 (1,3) - Like this, look better? http://puu.sh/iKniG/f07f48e6e8.jpg it would be better if you could place them exactly at the middle so the symmetry would be perfect. Done, also remapped the rest of the combo
27. 02:01:738 (6) - The way this slider heading make the flow to (7) kinda broken... Try this http://puu.sh/iKnoi/c9657273f5.jpg it looks better as well (at least for me xD) Fixed in remap mentioned
28. 02:07:363 (1,2,3) - Ty to make a nice closed form. http://puu.sh/iKntB/b206c88e68.jpg let me tell you the technique. Delete (2) and (3) first. Then copy, paste (1), remove the NC (in case it become NC) and while selecting (2), press ctrl+shift+R (Edit -> rotate by...) type 120° and select anti clockwise. Adjust the position. Do the same thing to make (3), but copy and paste (2) instead. Done. I had no clue about CTRL+SHIFT+R, thanks for telling me!
29. 02:19:364 Actually would be better if you start the break here, but that would be kinda long wait xD maybe you can extend the slider or just ignore this one. I think the end of kiai is a good place to break.
30. 02:53:863 (1,2) - Stack... Done, also fixed 02:59:114 (3,4)
31. 03:20:864 (1) - Try to curve it the other way. The way it curved now kinda break the flow.Made into blanket
32. 03:29:864 (7) - Add finish hitsound here.Done
33. 03:35:114 (2) - This slider wave looks kinda weird imo... maybe fix the shape a bit http://puu.sh/iKnLC/c5aaa2aa31.jpg Done, fixed next few combos as well
34. 03:37:364 (6) - NC, don't let the combo last too long.Done
35. 04:18:615 (2) - I don't think you can change SV at normal... Furthermore, in case you actually can, NC so the player would notice the change, considering the change is kinda sudden (from 1.0x to 0.5x is a sudden change) #modhelp said it's all right if it's sensible... in which I'll say yes, it's allowed. Done.
36. Well, need more improvement at placing. Your pattern get nicer nearing the end tho ^^ here a gif(t)
    
    actually, a gif(t)

    

[Hard]

1. Woah, HP 7 is kinda high for Hard .-. even I don't like using HP 7 for insane xD I suggest to lower it to 6 or 5
2. OD 7 is too high as well, usually it's used for Insane, use 6 or 5Can't believe I missed that. I copy/pasted Insane to Hard, and Hard to Normal to create those difficulties, so it inherited a lot of the harder elements. Probably won't be doing that again, haha.
3. Your NC-ing is kinda inconsistent isn't it? Try to be more consistent. I usually NC every two big white ticks, but it's up to you.Note above. Went through and re-NC'ed the map.
4. 00:16:363 (1) - Avoid using this if there's no actual sound at blue tick. And honestly I hear noting. Maybe you hear something or whatever but I think it's a faint sound. Follow the major one, just use standard 1/1 slider followed by a circle. Done
5. I find that your notes is kinda "sparse" (I can't find the right word xD) for Hard... Try to fill the red tick more. Will do.
6. 00:36:613 (2) - Changing SV right? then NCDone
7. 01:33:613 (6) - You better use two 1/2 slider here. It'll cover the vocal better. http://puu.sh/iKohh/cc06438887.jpg The vocal pauses on the red tick. I do think having two 1/2 sliders sounds better, so I did it anyway.
8. 01:35:863 There's a vocal sound here... Maybe like this http://puu.sh/iKoqy/040bba7593.jpg Same as above. Remapped combo.
9. 01:36:613 (6,7) - Well, you use a triplets... The sound you hear here is a stream actually. Maybe you want to simplified it to triplets since this is Hard but I think it's better to keep it as stream by adding one more reverse to each sliders. I was debating the same thing. I'll change it for now and see if I like it. It could be too hard for Hard, that's the question.
10. 01:42:988 (3,2) - Overlapped... 01:43:738 (2) - looks good so I think you should change 01:42:988 (3) - Try this, this is what it looks like from (3) alone : http://puu.sh/iKozj/9b677b8e74.jpg but actually I did a little symmetry like this http://puu.sh/iKoFR/59470f8e85.jpg kinda looks nice I think. Done
11. 01:45:613 (7) - Maybe you can make it like this http://puu.sh/iKoHK/b66b61b8af.jpg Done
12. 01:51:801 Follow the vocal at this part so add a note here and here 01:52:176 Done, rearranged notes.
13. 01:58:363 (1,2) - try ctrl+g these two. It'll cover the vocal better.Done, rearranged sliders
14. 02:01:363 (1,2,3) - Try to use the technique I gave you on Normal ^ just don't use anticlockwise, use clockwise. http://puu.sh/iKoQ2/62aa7c04a8.jpg Imagine this http://puu.sh/iKoSo/fcecd90150.jpg Done
15. 02:10:364 o-o did you forget the spinner? Will be mapping that section. Same with Hard, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
16. 02:33:613 (3) - Personally I don't like this kind of double repeat. I prefer 1/2 reverse slider and a circle. But, yeah, it's up to you. Fixed.
17. 02:41:864 Good place to add spinner actually .-. I think it would be too short.
18. 02:58:364 (3,4,5) - I prefer this http://puu.sh/iKp1X/a010cc2442.jpg Done, remapped until break
19. 02:59:864 (7) - NC to cut the combo.Done
20. 03:19:364 (6) - ^Done
21. 03:29:864 (4) - try to use wiggle slider for guitar sound :3 Simple example : http://puu.sh/iKp7v/e8788fd85f.jpgDone, but made the "inverse" of your example
22. 03:52:364 (1,3) - I prefer to make them parallel...Done
23. Okay, better than the Normal. Some issue, you seems to follow the background music mainly. Well, actually it's not bad since you use 1/2 slider and it follow the rhythm nicely, but, I suggest to try to follow the vocal more I prefer following the background music. I think of the beatmap as enhancing the background music, which in turn, enhances vocals.

I'll stop here, it's fine right? >.<
I think my mod is pretty big already and I don't want to cause you headache again xD
Furthermore my map is 5 mins with two diffs, I think it's pretty fair eh :3
Good luck ^^

Repr1se wrote:

hanyuu_nanodesu wrote:

[General]

1. You don't seems to set combo colors don't you? (song setup -> colours) Try setting one to support the background color more. I suggest using blue, turquoise, purple, dark red, and whatever else you'd like to have. Done. Thanks for the suggestions as well. I have bad artistic sense. Could you check the colors after the update, to see if they're fitting?

• 
  - General Statement: The jumps... I understand this is an Extra but they don't feel natural to me. Like unnecessary. I'm sure this isn't a problem in the ranking process but I guess it's personal taste. It was fun though, but weird in other parts.
  - General Statement: A lot... if not... all of your sliders are just straight. Maybe make some curvy. Just a suggestion
  - 00:32:488 (4) - Move to (X:268,Y:52). I feel this is a better jumping pattern than a simply back and forth motion.
  - 00:35:488 (4) - Move to around (X:40,Y:164). Another better jumping pattern I think.
  - 00:38:863 (5,6) - Prefer this either into a slider or remake the jumping pattern because right now it's... strange.
  - 00:45:988 (3) - Move to (X:280,Y:16) it's more centered between the two and looks better.
  - 00:50:300 (5) - Maybe make this a slider going upwards? I feel that makes it less of a hassle in terms of reading and fits decently. And it doesn't have to go upwards, just make it a slider anyway you want.
  - 00:51:425 (9) - Move to (X:264,Y:48) for a better jumping flow into the stream... my opinion this fits better
  - 00:53:301 (6,7) - Maybe make this a down slider?
  00:55:551 (1,2,3,4) - I have an... interesting idea for this part.. okay... so delete the (1) and make that a slider (you can do the placings anyway you want), then keep the (3) (which will now be 2) where it is and then make (3) a circle ontop of (4) as a slider... make sure the (3) directly ontop of the starting circle of (4)... so in total it will be (1) slider, (2) slider, (3) circle direction ontop of (4) slider... if you need help with this you can always PM me...
  - 01:25:364 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Very awkward pattern with this rhythm. CTRL+H the (4,5) and see if that works out better for ya. I think it looks good too
  - 01:27:051 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Just personal preference I don't really like the fact (1),(3), and (6) land at the same spot... idk just me maybe
  - 01:30:801 (4) - Overlapping... fix
  - 01:45:801 (9) - Place a circle here (will probably be (9) like mine is) and place it directly ontop of(10)'s 1/1 slider. Just plays better
  - 02:56:490 (3,4) - Move (3) to (X:216,Y:76) and move (4) to (X:92,Y:72) for a bit better look.
  - 03:37:365 (1,2,3,4,5) - Just... weird to play

• 
  - 00:15:613 (4,5) - Make these a slider... maybe?
  - 00:30:426 (3) - Too close to the (1), move it a bit away.
  - 00:55:551 (1,2,3,4) - Remember what I told you in <Resounding Sorrow> ? Try that rhythm here too.
  - 00:57:707 (2) - Place a perfect note here and dead between the two 1/1 sliders.
  - 01:57:613 (2,3) - I feel these are way too far away from each other
  - 02:49:365 (1) - Way too close to the previous stack in my opinion
  - 03:18:428 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5) - I know it's long but this entire part feels awkward when playing the patterns with this rhythm... idk. A lot of sliders could work they don't have to all be circles xD

• 
  - General Statement: You leave out a lot of fast snare drumrolls in this difficulty. You can always map these with fast 1/1 repeat sliders on hard and maybe small simple streams. But it's just an idea not really needed.=
  - 00:14:487 (3) - Way too close to previous note
  - 00:32:300 (3) - Overlaps slider
  - 01:48:426 (2,3,4,5,6) - This one is better to make a fast 1/1 repeat
  - 01:51:612 (2,3,4,5) - Doesn't feel right...

hanyuu_nanodesu wrote:

Wow that mod @-@
[shanedro's Happy Sorrow]
[notice][list][*]This is easy right? As long as I remember difficulty name need to show difficulty level unless it's the hardest diff (custom difficulty name is allowed as long as it indicates the diff level, like "beginner" or something) and I don't think "happy sorrow" actually indicates diff level....

Osu! ranking criteria wrote:

A difficulty's name must indicate its level of difficulty, with the exception of the hardest level of difficulty in a set.

[ Scarlet Red ] wrote:

Hey~ M4M Queue. Apologies for the late response, IRL got in the way from most of my play time so I used the time I had to actually play and not map but here is my mod.

[Resounding Sorrow]
Quick note: In addition to the changes I also re-NC'ed the map.

• 
  - General Statement: The jumps... I understand this is an Extra but they don't feel natural to me. Like unnecessary. I'm sure this isn't a problem in the ranking process but I guess it's personal taste. It was fun though, but weird in other parts. I meant for the jumps to follow the drums. I had a few friends play test this and they said the same thing. I'll add/remove some stuff to make it more natural.
  - General Statement: A lot... if not... all of your sliders are just straight. Maybe make some curvy. Just a suggestion I probably should, since this is an Extra and I can get crafty.
  - 00:32:488 (4) - Move to (X:268,Y:52). I feel this is a better jumping pattern than a simply back and forth motion. Done, but made it stack with (1) instead.
  - 00:35:488 (4) - Move to around (X:40,Y:164). Another better jumping pattern I think. Done
  - 00:38:863 (5,6) - Prefer this either into a slider or remake the jumping pattern because right now it's... strange.I intended to make a triangle with (1) of the next combo.
  - 00:45:988 (3) - Move to (X:280,Y:16) it's more centered between the two and looks better. Done
  - 00:50:300 (5) - Maybe make this a slider going upwards? I feel that makes it less of a hassle in terms of reading and fits decently. And it doesn't have to go upwards, just make it a slider anyway you want. This is intended. If it's unrankable, I'll change it.
  - 00:51:425 (9) - Move to (X:264,Y:48) for a better jumping flow into the stream... my opinion this fits betterDone
  - 00:53:301 (6,7) - Maybe make this a down slider? This is intended as well.
  00:55:551 (1,2,3,4) - I have an... interesting idea for this part.. okay... so delete the (1) and make that a slider (you can do the placings anyway you want), then keep the (3) (which will now be 2) where it is and then make (3) a circle ontop of (4) as a slider... make sure the (3) directly ontop of the starting circle of (4)... so in total it will be (1) slider, (2) slider, (3) circle direction ontop of (4) slider... if you need help with this you can always PM me...
  Like this?
  
  If that's how it is, I'll change it after your confirmation, but I'll keep it as is for now.
  - 01:25:364 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Very awkward pattern with this rhythm. CTRL+H the (4,5) and see if that works out better for ya. I think it looks good too Done
  - 01:27:051 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Just personal preference I don't really like the fact (1),(3), and (6) land at the same spot... idk just me maybe Done. Made it zig zag somewhat.
  - 01:30:801 (4) - Overlapping... fix Done, stacks after 5
  - 01:45:801 (9) - Place a circle here (will probably be (9) like mine is) and place it directly ontop of(10)'s 1/1 slider. Just plays betterDone
  - 02:56:490 (3,4) - Move (3) to (X:216,Y:76) and move (4) to (X:92,Y:72) for a bit better look.Done
  - 03:37:365 (1,2,3,4,5) - Just... weird to playThis is intended. I'll evaluate this during testing, but so far I'd like to keep it.

Alright! So that's it with this difficulty. Some stuff I've covered here may be present around more areas of the map so I didn't talk about those but yeah... an interesting map... I'm sure with time and polish and modding it'll look a lot more profession. Right now you have some... strange spacings in places and weird jumps but those can be fixed. Also... NICE CHOICE OF SONG Thanks. I'll check the rest of the map.

[Insane]

• 
  - 00:15:613 (4,5) - Make these a slider... maybe?Done, also made a pseudo-blanket
  - 00:30:426 (3) - Too close to the (1), move it a bit away.Done
  - 00:55:551 (1,2,3,4) - Remember what I told you in <Resounding Sorrow> ? Try that rhythm here too. It definitely works a lot better on this difficulty. Done
  - 00:57:707 (2) - Place a perfect note here and dead between the two 1/1 sliders.Done
  - 01:57:613 (2,3) - I feel these are way too far away from each otherDone, moved (1) and (2) down.
  - 02:49:365 (1) - Way too close to the previous stack in my opinion Done, moved down slightly to make a square for the next combo
  - 03:18:428 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5) - I know it's long but this entire part feels awkward when playing the patterns with this rhythm... idk. A lot of sliders could work they don't have to all be circles xD Done, added a few sliders but not too many. I intended for that section to be tapped.

Nothing else here, interesting map definitely can be great once polished off. Good luck

[Hard]

• 
  - General Statement: You leave out a lot of fast snare drumrolls in this difficulty. You can always map these with fast 1/1 repeat sliders on hard and maybe small simple streams. But it's just an idea not really needed.=
  - 00:14:487 (3) - Way too close to previous note Done
  - 00:32:300 (3) - Overlaps sliderDone, repositioned next few combos
  - 01:48:426 (2,3,4,5,6) - This one is better to make a fast 1/1 repeatMade two 1/1 sliders instead
  - 01:51:612 (2,3,4,5) - Doesn't feel right... Done, made 4 and 5 into one slider.

Can't find that much on this difficulty....

OVERALL: This is a cool map with a lot of potential. Do I see a rank possibility? Yes, but not that soon. Keep working at it and you'll get there. Again... awesome song haha

[ Scarlet Red ] wrote:

Apologies for posting again but I wanna just ask something (Idk if it's possible to delete posts since I don't see that option and it's a habit of double posting whoops...) okay so... when you say that you can't make Easy a custom difficulty name... how is DJ Okawari - Flower Dance ranked... and other maps of the sort. Just questioningly.... unsure...

hanyuu_nanodesu wrote:

Yeah, they look fine. But I think it would be better if you use dark blue and dark purple. And I don't know why but the red seems to be too stand out xD maybe try to give it a little (actually little) shade of blue :3

inspectorscout wrote:

Not really a mod, but I can't believe nobody noticed: change the bmp to 160 manually in the timing window, because now it is 159.999, not really a nice number

Hiyori wrote:

Hey there! I'm here (NM) as requested from my Modding Queue

NORMAL:

1. 00:15:987 (6,1) -don't stack circles on sliders. Done
2. 00:19:363 (1,2) - blanketDone
3. 00:22:362 (1,2) - awkward overlap (looks untidy), fix please supposed to stack
4. 00:26:113 (2,3) - blanket (2) blankets the end of (1)
5. 00:41:862 (4) - move a bit downwardDone
6. 00:53:487 (3,1) - untidy overlapDone
7. 00:56:112 (3,4) - a bit too sudden for new player. Try making the reverse slider into just a sliderDone
8. 00:59:112 (5,6) - don't stackI think this one is ok for now, see what other modders think
9. 01:27:987 (6,7) - blanket betterDone
10. 01:46:738 (2,3,4,1) - maybe move this downwards? This looks really messyMoved to the left instead
11. 02:03:238 (8,9) - don't stack. Move 9 so it is visible (Too hard for new players) Done
12. 02:35:114 (6,7) - ^^ same problem aboveDone
13. 02:37:363 (1,2) - ^^Done
14. 02:39:613 (6,7) - ^^ Done
15. 02:41:112 (2,3) - ^^Done
16. 02:50:864 (1,2) - ^^Done
17. 03:05:114 (6,7) - ^^Done
18. 03:39:989 (1,2,4) - fix overlap
19. 03:55:364 (1,2) - Try me

HARD:

• 
  Firstly, I don't think you're following your DS 1.2x, maybe you should fix distance first. I fixed a few notes, but according to #modhelp, Hard doesn't need to be DS snapped. Highly recommended, but not a requirement

1. 00:20:113 (2,3,4) - triangle betterDone
2. 00:21:426 (6) - change this into a circle instead?Done
3. 00:43:362 (1,2) - blanketDone
4. 00:44:488 (3,4) - blanketdistance snap
5. 00:45:987 (6,1) - blanketdistance snap
6. 00:47:487 (3,4) - ^^distance snap
7. 01:30:050 (3) - i don't think this is map to anything, the beat is here 01:29:675not sure what you mean, left as is for now
8. 02:43:364 (1) - Fix the points on this one Done
9. 02:44:864 (7) - also this ^^ ... and so on with the other notesDone
10. 03:24:426 (3,4) - untidy overlapDone
11. 03:29:864 (4) - nice slider Thanks
12. 04:18:613 (1) - end tail at 04:19:175, then at 04:19:363 - add circleintended on that

Hope this short mod helps Goodluck!

Boobs wrote:

WARNING!
I'm new to modding and I don't have a lot of experience. I might make a few mistakes here and there.

Always nice to have a new modder. I'm a new mapper, so I make mistakes as well. Nothing to be ashamed about.

Insane (4.78 stars, 843 notes) Quick Mod

00:14:113 (5) - Improper placement for this slider. Blanket slider end of 00:13:363 (3).

[General]

• You're running into the same problems over and over.
  Your spacing is inconsistent, meaning it's all over the place and they don't have a pattern. So i would use Distance Snapping.
  You should follow the music more, like when you start the stream too early, or when you could add couple of sliders instead of single notes to much rather fit the song and the flow of the map. I've DS'ed the notes that I feel needs DS-ing, and left all others as is. The map is intended to feel somewhat jagged. It's a song of pain and loss.
  
  And the whole intro is done very awkwardly. Example: 00:14:863 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6). If you're going to make your own rhythm, you have to use Distance Snap correctly and place them so they flow better. Since you can't from what it looks like, map it normally.The intro follows the drums closely. I've added/removed/moved some notes so it is closer to the drums, but a remap isn't needed.
  
  00:38:113 (2,3,4) - Inconsistent spacing. Done
  
  00:39:426 (1) - ^I don't see anything significant here
  
  00:39:426 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Pattern too jagged, therefore ugly. Refer to the note above
  
  00:39:988 (4) - Inconsistent spacing.Not incredibly significant but adjusted.
  
  00:41:113 (7) - ^ ^
  
  00:42:613 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^it follows DS 0.8
  
  00:44:113 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^ Adjusted (5) and (6), the others seem consistent
  
  00:46:363 (3,4,5) - ^IMO this is fine. There's plenty of time to move the cursor (and also accentuates pauses in the vocals).
  
  00:49:363 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^Spacing here seems fine. I remapped the section however.
  
  00:54:426 (3,4,5,6) - Delete this part. It follows the drums so I'll keep it here

Reditum wrote:

First thing I see is "spacing is inconsistent" I take it that you're referencing the pre-chorus versus the chorus versus the verse. I intended for them to be jumpy, because they are. I also intended for kiai to be more spaced. If you know the lyrics, it's a final cry. Shouldn't the map reflect that?

I'm ready for this.

Insane:
00:13:176 (1,2,3,4,5) - Ok so you're setting this up to follow the drums. Which is super cool. Except that you have added no hitsounds. Which is not cool. Add claps or something (or my personal preference of using soft hitsounds and then using hitnormals for the drum hits) to make the notes for the song. Added a finish on (1), not sure if that's satisfactory. The map should be adhering to the drums, not imitating it.
00:16:363 (6) - NC pls Done
00:17:113 (7,8,1) - Ok so let's talk about spacing. Spacing is the relative distance between two notes. While varied spacing has become more popular throughout the years, it generally is done with purpose. There is often something in the music cueing spacing changes to happen, or a pattern that requires larger jumps. Additionally, spacing tends to not break the flow of a map by awkwardly pausing. That's what this does. There's no reason for me to suddenly drag slowly to the left, waiting for the next note, but I am, and it's making me very sad, because I was having fun moving around the map. But now I have no momentum, and the fun is gone. It's also hard to read, so I'm not sure when I should hit it. I wasn't able to find the circles you highlighted here.
00:18:613 (1,2,3) - Generally patterns like this tend to be done in slider(s), because it's hard to time out when to hit the middle note, especially when the pattern hasn't been prevelant before in the songDecided not to change this, since a fair number of them are done in sliders already.
00:52:364 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Jumps. Jumps have goals, generally. A good jump pattern will be planned out so it either makes some sort of shape, or goes in some sort of naturally flowing direction. Like when maps have stars, that's because a mapper wants to have 5 notes that jump, for a specific purpose in a specific way, not just because it's a pretty shape. When you have patterns like this, try thinking of shapes that would make sense to look at, but make sense to play as well. Right now, it looks kind of random, and the flow seems pretty messed up.Adjusted pattern.
01:01:364 (1) - Finish plsDone
01:25:363 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Explain to me what this isJumps.
01:26:676 (7,1) - It's spacing like this that I especially want to emphasize. Why is it suddenly shorter here? As a player, I'd hit this note way too early, and I'd additionally have to be waiting awkwardly for it to appear. If you want an anti-jump (which i personally hate but ehhh), then make it more extreme. Otherwise, just space it normally so it's easy to read.Made to stack with (1). An anti-jump here is undesirable.

So I'm a believer in general statements, rather than long mods. So I'm going to stop the specifics here. What you need are a few things

1) Hitsounds. Your last kiai is golden. Claps on 2 and 4. Do that for the rest of the map.Done, but only for the other kiai time. Doing it for the whole song would be overdoing it.
2) Spacing. Think about it. Why are jumps happening? You don't jump just because it's an insane. You jump with purpose I looked over the jumps. All seem fitting. They follow the parts where the drums have a 1/2 bang.
3) Design. Your map should at least look like it has direction. A big problem people have with my maps is that I "Roadmap", aka. I don't make my maps very pattern-based. However, in that road that I make, there's still direction and flow. A lot of times, I'm not sure where the next few notes are going to be.Looks like it to me. Can you explain where you see lack of direction?

Those 3 things should help you get started on the right track. I'm happy to help via PM (or if you can somehow find me in-game ) if you need any assistance making that happen.

These things apply to all diffs, so I'll leave the mods for the other diffs to just those 3 things I listed above. If you'd like more specifics, PM me and I'd be happy to help out. A good thing to help you make nicely informed decisions is to look at other maps. I haven't played osu! realistically since about 2011, but I look at maps all the time, and I see what I like and don't like in ranked maps. I see what gets me excited to play, and I see what makes me not so excited. Take stuff like that, and apply it to your own maps. Why does it work? Does your map do that? Does this thing WORK in your map?

It's a lot, and I'm sorry that a lot of my suggestions are really vague. I really don't want to make a giant post of "this is all that is wrong", but I'd like you to possibly fix things on your own with the guidance I am giving you.

As I said, feel free to PM if you have any questions about the mod.

woohoo

Boobs wrote:

Insane (4.78 stars, 851 notes) Quick Modding

00:14:863 (1,2,3,4,5) - This jump is weird because 00:14:863 (1,2,3) is curved but 00:15:425 (4,5) is straight. I could continue the curve.I don't know what you want. Conflicts with next suggested change.

00:15:425 (4,5) - Boring as fuck because you didn't emphasize this. I would stack 00:15:238 (3,4) and space 00:15:613 (5) to give that slider the emphasis it should have.Read above. Used this change however.

00:19:363 (1) - How come this is placed closer compared to the jumps at 00:18:238 (2,3,1,2,3)?It makes 00:18:613 (1,2,3,1) easier to read and play since 00:18:894 (2) is on a blue tick.

00:27:426 (6,7,8,9) - Inconsistent spacing. if you want to give 00:27:426 (6) more spacing, i would give it MORE spacing, this seem awkward to play and makes an ugly pattern.Fixed pattern

00:30:613 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Too close to 00:30:426 (5). Harder to read.Done

01:31:925 - Place note here please.Nothing significant in the song here

01:32:113 (2,3,4,5) - Fix pattern, use Distance Snapping properly and give the pattern a more prettier flow.The map isn't supposed to flow like other maps. This is fine to read and play.

01:34:175 - Place note here.Again, nothing significant here.

01:35:676 (3,4,5) - please follow the vocals. The whole map centers around the drums, so I'm leaving this as is.

[General]
Your map is very inconsistent with spacing. Please use Distance Snapping 1.0x - 1.5x for non jumps and 1.5x -2.0x for jumps. Make sure the jumps have repeating spacings and more spread sometimes. I use 1.4x for non-jumps and 0.7x for streams. The jumps use 1.8x, 1.9x and 2.0x depending on emphasis and I don't intend for all jumps to have the same distance. Normally I would use more spread, but the map is intended to be jagged, as the song is so (not by the music, but by the lyrics).

One other important thing. Your map is actually WAY TOO SPACED. Try to give space to parts that need emphasis instead of using crazy high Distance Snapping for everything.I did what you said, then you tell me not to do it? Make sure your mod doesn't contradict itself.

Ora wrote:

00:29:675 (1,2,3,4,5) - here I feel like you should continue the same patterns you had at 00:26:675 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I can't change that because the second pattern has a 3/4 (blue tick) note. The differences should be more obvious to show that this is so.

01:31:363 (1) - 2 notes could added here such as Added notes

This

02:48:425 (1) - If you listen closely the drum makes a triplet similar to the place I marked at 01:31:363 (1) - , so this pattern could be changed if you wanted. and the place where you put the triplet: 02:48:800 (3,4,5) - , I don't think I even hear one there. so personally I think the pattern needs to be adjusted. Done

03:23:864 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - I think the pattern here should be more like

This

because I hear a triplet from the drums starting at this circle: 03:24:425 (3) - Fixed

03:37:175 (4,1) - I say put a circle in between these so it is stacked on the slider like I don't hear a triplet here that justifies this

This

03:42:425 (3) - Maybe do the same for this here and maybe here aswell: 03:57:989 (4) - I don't hear a triplet here either

04:00:801 (4,5) - Here is another triplet I can hear that is similar to the one I suggested at: 03:24:425 (3) -Done

I really like this map

To be honest, some of the earlier streams start spaced too close to the previous circle which feels a little out of place for the difficulty of the song. For example the one at 00:51:614 (1,2,3,4,5) - , but the problem is if you spaced it out more from the previous circle: 00:51:426 (11) - , then it might mess up the spacing for the rest of the section. I did my best ^_^ I fixed this one and checked the remaining streams. The other streams are fixed.

I will mod more probably but this is just a quick one. Good luck Aaron

Repr1se wrote:

Ora wrote:

00:29:675 (1,2,3,4,5) - here I feel like you should continue the same patterns you had at 00:26:675 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I can't change that because the second pattern has a 3/4 (blue tick) note. The differences should be more obvious to show that this is so. Yeah you are right, I was just hearing that wrong. I looked over it again and I suggest that you get rid of the 3rd and 4th circles of that combo 00:29:863 (3,4) - , and put a slider where the 3 is under circles 1 & 2. Reason I think this is because the beat in relation to the spacing kind of makes that part confusing.

Here is my example

01:31:363 (1) - 2 notes could added here such as Added notes

This

02:48:425 (1) - If you listen closely the drum makes a triplet similar to the place I marked at 01:31:363 (1) - , so this pattern could be changed if you wanted. and the place where you put the triplet: 02:48:800 (3,4,5) - , I don't think I even hear one there. so personally I think the pattern needs to be adjusted. Done

03:23:864 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - I think the pattern here should be more like

This

because I hear a triplet from the drums starting at this circle: 03:24:425 (3) - Fixed

03:37:175 (4,1) - I say put a circle in between these so it is stacked on the slider like I don't hear a triplet here that justifies this Yeah I think I was just hearing things. I think you are right

This

03:42:425 (3) - Maybe do the same for this here and maybe here aswell: 03:57:989 (4) - I don't hear a triplet here either It looks like you added them anyways O.O I like the new pattern too

04:00:801 (4,5) - Here is another triplet I can hear that is similar to the one I suggested at: 03:24:425 (3) -Done

I really like this map

To be honest, some of the earlier streams start spaced too close to the previous circle which feels a little out of place for the difficulty of the song. For example the one at 00:51:614 (1,2,3,4,5) - , but the problem is if you spaced it out more from the previous circle: 00:51:426 (11) - , then it might mess up the spacing for the rest of the section. I did my best ^_^ I fixed this one and checked the remaining streams. The other streams are fixed.

I will mod more probably but this is just a quick one. Good luck Aaron

Thanks for your mod!

Mapset updated.

Ranking Criteria wrote:

The lowest difficulty must be below 2.0 stars.

[ Seni ] wrote:

00:55:550 (1,2,3,4) - These sliders end on strong beats. Strong beats should be either hit circles or starts of sliders. With sliders starting on proper beats now it would make for a sensible transition into this which would help bridge another awkward gap.
To add to all that, this triple 00:57:050 (5,6,7) really has no sound in the song to justify its usage. It's unnecessary and by forcing it you sacrifice this part 00:57:426 (1,2,3) which has a strong 1/4 sound to open space for a stream. With everything above changed it would comfortably lead into a stream
If you don't trust me you can try to map it like that for a second and listen to make sure it makes more sense music-wise I tried remapping it the best I can. Can you check to see if I got it right?