have you tried or ever gotten good accuracy on od10
like bro that shit is hard
shit son
like bro that shit is hard
shit son
not really nocheezstik wrote:
Yeah but it's a different type of OD increase, which is why a DT OD7 feels so much easier than a no mod OD8 , and same with DT OD8 and nomod OD9 etc.
actually, a 5 star map with od9 would have about 60-70% of it's pp come from speed and aimDexus wrote:
Star rating should be the main focus since that's how physically hard a map is; this is where 90% of pp should come from, but most of the time it's less than half of what gets accounted for.
the reason why DT feels easier is because the maps are techincally easier. they are more mapped to 1/2 notes and burst streams compared to maps on that difficulty with nomod. their difficulty (star rating) comes mostly from their speed.GoldenWolf wrote:
not really nocheezstik wrote:
Yeah but it's a different type of OD increase, which is why a DT OD7 feels so much easier than a no mod OD8 , and same with DT OD8 and nomod OD9 etc.
Good players don't come on these shitty forums. All we have is dickheads and shitters.B1rd wrote:
I made this thread to get the though of more experienced players on this matter.
That really depends on the map.cheezstik wrote:
Yeah but it's a different type of OD increase, which is why a DT OD7 feels so much easier than a no mod OD8 , and same with DT OD8 and nomod OD9 etc.
and all the good players aren't helpful anymore ahahaheahaaeahahaeahathedamntrain wrote:
Good players don't come on these shitty forums. All we have is dickheads and shitters.B1rd wrote:
I made this thread to get the though of more experienced players on this matter.
"ermargerd I get more rewarded being accurate on OD9.8 than OD7!!!"tfg50 wrote:
Yes. I have a 214pp score in a 4.45 star map (that star is nomod) play with ar just because of the acc. The map is so easy that when I was testing if my pc can stream I fced it first try (less acc but I can just retry to get better acc) while I had my fps capped on 400 less fps than I'm used to.
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/166452?m=0 99,50% acc with hr
Now when you look at nomod, I have a 1x100 932 combo in this https://osu.ppy.sh/b/130500?m=0 (DAT SLIDER T.T) and it is worth just 190 pp. IMO this score is WAY more impressive than that other one with hr. Even if i had got a SS on it, it wouldn't have given much more pp. 20x max. When you look at the OD guess what, it is OD7.....
what does peppy sound like?[ Momiji ] wrote:
I read that in peppy's voice. Pretty interesting experience.thedamntrain wrote:
Good players don't come on these shitty forums. All we have is dickheads and shitters.
Binwer with the endless words of wisdom.winber1 wrote:
have you tried or ever gotten good accuracy on od10
like bro that shit is hard
shit son
When you look at the difficulty of the maps it is a big difference indeed... 4.7 stars vs 5.5 starsGoldenWolf wrote:
"ermargerd I get more rewarded being accurate on OD9.8 than OD7!!!"
it might be rated as a 5.5 star map, but the only reson it's rated so high is solely because of that deathstream, which is actually easy because of how compressed it is, it takes no aim at all, just mash your keys since it's OD7 and you just magically SS'd a 128 circles stream.tfg50 wrote:
When you look at the difficulty of the maps it is a big difference indeed... 4.7 stars vs 5.5 starsGoldenWolf wrote:
"ermargerd I get more rewarded being accurate on OD9.8 than OD7!!!"
it's a fast game under the pretense of being a rhythm game.Bauxe wrote:
osu! is a rhythm game, not a go fast game.
I don't know any good player who isn't helpful.winber1 wrote:
and all the good players aren't helpful anymore ahahaheahaaeahahaeahathedamntrain wrote:
Good players don't come on these shitty forums. All we have is dickheads and shitters.
that's exactly what it does, it's just not visible for us.tfg50 wrote:
Well, the difficulty of those 2 scores are indeed very different and the only way to measure that kind of stuff better is with something more like the tp system (measuring aim/speed/acc separately). So until pp goes into that direction acc players will say that acc is overrated.
well... not exactly. TP had rankings on each category as well as everything together. PP has just the one with everything mixed up.silmarilen wrote:
that's exactly what it does, it's just not visible for us.tfg50 wrote:
Well, the difficulty of those 2 scores are indeed very different and the only way to measure that kind of stuff better is with something more like the tp system (measuring aim/speed/acc separately). So until pp goes into that direction acc players will say that acc is overrated.
AR10 is no joke. I literally freeze when I play HR. CS5.2 is super hard for me, imagine koigokoro DT but with CS5.2. I would miss everywhere.chainpullz wrote:
CS5.2 isn't that bad and AR10 is a joke so HR basically is just the OD increase (unless you are an aim god and play HR on cs5 maps).
I want to disagree with this so much but it's so true at the same timechainpullz wrote:
CS5.2 isn't that bad and AR10 is a joke so HR basically is just the OD increase (unless you are an aim god and play HR on cs5 maps).
I have no sympathy for greedy DT farmers.timemon wrote:
AR10 is no joke. I literally freeze when I play HR. CS5.2 is super hard for me, imagine koigokoro DT but with CS5.2. I would miss everywhere.chainpullz wrote:
CS5.2 isn't that bad and AR10 is a joke so HR basically is just the OD increase (unless you are an aim god and play HR on cs5 maps).
I play DT maybe once every 10 days. All of my DT scores are fairly easy maps. DT happens to be over-rated for easier maps and thus my top ranks happen to be DT. When I'm messing around and playing DT and I get a really good score, I feel inclined to spend a few retries trying to get a fc. It's been like 2 months since I've actually farmed DT. Pretty much anything in my top ranks that is more recent has been replaying maps I've already fc'd to improve accuracy. In fact you'll notice most of the recent stuff in my top ranks is HR.B1rd wrote:
are you joking? otherwise that'd make you a hypocrite.
I don't know if you're just messing around or seriously trying to put down people that use DT, but really, half of the top 100 (probably more like 80+% but I can't be bothered checking) mainly use DT, so can we really look down upon the top players? And if you're going to say "but they're actually good unlike us", then you could say the same about HR, or even no-mod players that aren't in the top 100, cos that would basically be looking down upon people for not being good in general, and in a couple years from now when people are at 12k+ PP, our top players now could be looked down upon in the same way by the new top players going by that logic.chainpullz wrote:
I have no sympathy for greedy DT farmers.timemon wrote:
AR10 is no joke. I literally freeze when I play HR. CS5.2 is super hard for me, imagine koigokoro DT but with CS5.2. I would miss everywhere.
you're a hypocrite because you accuse people of farming when you have farm ranks yourself.chainpullz wrote:
More to the point, I have never complained about freezing up on AR10 maps so I don't see how I could be a hypocrite here.
I think you mean that he just sucks at the game.chainpullz wrote:
I have no sympathy for greedy DT farmers.
tokaku wrote:
I think you mean that he just sucks at the game.chainpullz wrote:
I have no sympathy for greedy DT farmers.
DT remote control (current highest top pp song) is still overweighted though, DT as a whole is still overweighted for most maps.chainpullz wrote:
The difference between subject A and those people you are talking about is those people A) don't complain about freezing up on AR10, and B) don't compare cs5.2 at 1.0x speed to cs5.2 at 1.5x speed. My definition of DT farmer is someone who undeservedly got their rank and did it by abusing the overweightedness of DT. 2 months ago when I farmed DT to get my rank, I was undeserving of it. Fast forward 2 months and I now believe I do actually deserve to be where I am based on recent improvement. I'd like to think I've graduated from being a DT farmer.
Those maps are 90% sliders and Tom said somewhere that he can't fix those kind of maps without doing huge changes or something like thatB1rd wrote:
Look at the grossly disproportionate pp gotten from Scarlet Rose and Big Black FCs for example.
How do you know that I don't play HR? I'm bad at HR but I also play it from time to time.chainpullz wrote:
I don't think you understand what I'm saying. The people who cite that things such as aim or reading are hard because they can't do them and continue to claim they are a good player and cite one of the most recognized over weighted DR farm maps don't deserve sympathy.
To repeat what someone else already said, I am calling this specific person bad and establishing my belief that if you choose to farm DT over getting good at the game then you have no right to complain and should accept that you are simply bad at the game.
Also I have yet to complain about people farming DT in this thread. If you read my posts objectively you will find no complaints; merely opinions.
Let's stop taking things completely out of context.
that's true, but in the end the main ranking was for the combined tp.tfg50 wrote:
well... not exactly. TP had rankings on each category as well as everything together. PP has just the one with everything mixed up.silmarilen wrote:
that's exactly what it does, it's just not visible for us.