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This is a feature request. Feature requests can be voted up by supporters.
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Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Bara-
There is a rank for Standard, for Taiko, for CtB and for Mania.
I request there to be a fifth rank. The cumulative rank.
It takes all your pp from all modes together (and divides by 4 for average) and that will be an other ranking.
So I would have 1369+3449+863+624 = 6305 total pp (1576,25 average)
Jackylam5 (good Dutch all mode player) would have 5593+1983+3965+1070 = 12611 total pp (3152,75 average)
It counts it vor everyone, and makes a new ranking (make a new tab in ranking page http://osu.ppy.sh/p/pp which you can set to country/friends
Sea_Food
484 posts
Joined September 2012
Sea_Food
I actually had something like this in my mind aswell but could not post it because some silly rules. Your idea sounds good thou.

+1 if you figure out a good way to get cumulative rank for each map difficulty aswell.
Vuelo Eluko
5,484 posts
Joined October 2013
Vuelo Eluko
i dislike this because it feels like adding unnecessary clutter to userpages but at the same time a new ranking like this could breathe some life into the other modes as surely quite a few people would like to be rank 1 'all-around' osu player.
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Bara-
It will NOT add a fifth tab in userpage, but in the notmal text, cumulative pp+rank
Also it will go to the page I said
Yukiteru Amano
409 posts
Joined September 2012
Yukiteru Amano
Love the idea! It also encourages players to maybe be all-rounders :)
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Bara-
Thanks!
copy-cat
3 posts
Joined October 2013
copy-cat
Out of stars but like the idea.
_Steve
63 posts
Joined July 2013
_Steve
Very good Idea! Supporting :)
Fudgy
47 posts
Joined December 2013
Fudgy
Good idea :)

I always wondered, as an all-mode player myself, who is the best at playing all modes. I would like to compare my 3455pp average with others. I think the best one would be Remilia-Scarlet if he was still playing.
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Bara-
Defintely Remilia-Scarlet.
Too bad all her Taiko/CtB/Mania pp is gone, so we don't know ;-;
silmarilen
5,581 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen
his*
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Bara-
How did I have to know sil?
silmarilen
5,581 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen
you didnt:P but now you do.
i like your idea btw.
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Bara-
Then shoot some stars :P
Hier hadden een paar mensen in #dutch het over, dat Jacky zo geel goed zou staan, dus ik dacht, laat ik t eens requesteren :P
Shivarion
475 posts
Joined August 2013
Shivarion
not bad. it's just like the idea they're talking about in clan system
Kingkevin30
629 posts
Joined November 2010
Kingkevin30
i really love this idea, its only a think if peppy wants to use so much server space to do another ranking calculation, but if he does then it would be so fucking awesome..im gonna give this idea all my stars since i love all-mode playing ^^
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Bara-
Thanks.
Most stars I ever had on a feature request ;-;
Still thank guys!
jesse1412
1,457 posts
Joined January 2010
jesse1412
Spro would be top afaik.
Negri_sk
298 posts
Joined January 2013
Negri_sk
Let's see who is the best all around player \:D/
+Support
Makou
50 posts
Joined June 2011
Makou
I love the idea because im an all mode player
DENKOUSEKKA
454 posts
Joined January 2014
DENKOUSEKKA
no thanks. Seems pretty unnecessary ;A;
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Bara-
For you probably (since you don't play CtB/Mania), but for the all mode players (like me) this would be very cool, and this would also support all-modeing @Yazawa
Makou
50 posts
Joined June 2011
Makou
I agree
F0R54K3N
1 post
Joined August 2011
F0R54K3N
I really like the idea I'm all for it .
Makou
50 posts
Joined June 2011
Makou
Mine is 3,621 + 4,083 + 3,362 + 1,126 = 12192 (3,048 average) ^^
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Bara-
That's good.
Still think Remilia-Scarlet and spro would be the best
n0ah
osu! Alumni
274 posts
Joined August 2013
n0ah
Though it's unnecessary, I feel like it would be a 'fun' addition.

However I do feel this a bit of a problem:
- Doing it the way you suggested would mean going to the rankings-page and having to look up every single player I'd want to know the cumulative ranking of.
- Not doing your way would mean everyone's profile would have to be changed and I can see a lot of people not wanting that.
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Bara-
It can also display on the profile as a new 'tab', like Kudosu, Beatmaps, Achievements.
Cumulative stats maybe?
Rank
Rank in Country
Total play count
Total score
Ranked score (can be messed up bcz Mania/Taiko)
Accuracy
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Bara-
Bumpp!
Sea_Food
484 posts
Joined September 2012
Sea_Food

baraatje123 wrote:

Bumpp!
xD
Samui_old_1
151 posts
Joined November 2012
Samui_old_1

Something like this?
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Bara-
Yeah
nrl
1,402 posts
Joined October 2011
nrl
But... why?
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Bara-
1.) Why not
2.) It shows who is the best all-rounder
3.) Adds a new ranking to the game
4.) Supports people to play all modes, like me
5.) Hopefully there will become more hybrid mapsets, as all modes are going to be together for an extra ranking, so more mode-scecifics would be good
nrl
1,402 posts
Joined October 2011
nrl
Why not? Different game modes are basically different games. Why does a cumulative rank across different games make any sense?

Never mind the fact that pp differs wildly across all osu!'s game modes.
Bobbias
1,447 posts
Joined March 2011
Bobbias
An average rank makes slightly more sense (but still is nearly pointless), but a rank determined by simply adding your ranks for each mode together makes no sense at all. Each gamemode has a variable number of players active, meaning ranks in each mode have different levels of value. If you're ranked 3k in std, that is worth a LOT more than 3k in mania. Also, how do you handle players who only play some of the modes, but not all?

baraatje123 wrote:

2.) It shows who is the best all-rounder
This assumes that ranks are actually a useful measure of skill. They aren't.

baraatje123 wrote:

3.) Adds a new ranking to the game
A new ranking that is entirely tied to other rankings, which makes it lose most of it's meaning.

baraatje123 wrote:

4.) Supports people to play all modes, like me
Assuming everyone cares about ranking in the first place. It hardly adds any real value to the game since it's just doing a bit of math for you.

It doesn't add any new mechanics to the game, nor does it add anything particularly useful (such as editor improvements, new mods, etc.). I suppose the one thing it has going for it is that it would be relatively easy to implement.
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Bara-
It doesn't add up the ranks
It adds up the pp
nrl
1,402 posts
Joined October 2011
nrl
That's just as bad.
Syphist
142 posts
Joined April 2012
Syphist
I like this idea. It wouldn't personally affect me, but I think it would be a cool feature.
touzkue
20 posts
Joined July 2013
touzkue
Support +5
buny
3,435 posts
Joined March 2012
buny
It's like a slap in the face when the only game mode is play is standard, yet say a 10k ranker is higher than me in a ranking scoreboard that I don't care about.

If this is implemented, at the very least don't include players that don't actually have performance in all modes.

I don't want some ugly 5/6 digit rank in my profile simply because I don't play other modes.
Makou
50 posts
Joined June 2011
Makou
i support you to the very end baraatje123 :3 i like the idea
Xheriux
31 posts
Joined June 2014
Xheriux
Good idea :3
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Bara-

buny wrote:

It's like a slap in the face when the only game mode is play is standard, yet say a 10k ranker is higher than me in a ranking scoreboard that I don't care about.

If this is implemented, at the very least don't include players that don't actually have performance in all modes.

I don't want some ugly 5/6 digit rank in my profile simply because I don't play other modes.
This is to support all-modeing
So IMO it should do it for EVERYONE,

Makou wrote:

i support you to the very end baraatje123 :3 i like the idea

slapper334 wrote:

Good idea :3
Thank you!
Novalogic
222 posts
Joined October 2009
Novalogic

buny wrote:

I don't want some ugly 5/6 digit rank in my profile simply because I don't play other modes.
What he said

And one more thing - we can already call an all rounder someone, who plays standard mode, and excels in all of the elements: streaming, aiming, single tapping, alternating and so on. Dunno about the other play modes, but i think you could find something like that as well.
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Bara-

Novalogic wrote:

buny wrote:

I don't want some ugly 5/6 digit rank in my profile simply because I don't play other modes.
What he said

And one more thing - we can already call an all rounder someone, who plays standard mode, and excels in all of the elements: streaming, aiming, single tapping, alternating and so on. Dunno about the other play modes, but i think you could find something like that as well.

Lolwut?

Also, if you play CTB only once and got 1pp, you also have an 'ugly' 6-digit rank, do I do NOT see the problem there
This ofc also applies to the other modes
nrl
1,402 posts
Joined October 2011
nrl
The point is that there isn't any way to implement a cumulative rank that would hold any meaning as a ranking metric. The inherent dissimilarity of osu!'s game modes invalidates the very notion of a cumulative rank.
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
Bara-

Narrill wrote:

The point is that there isn't any way to implement a cumulative rank that would hold any meaning as a ranking metric. The inherent dissimilarity of osu!'s game modes invalidates the very notion of a cumulative rank.
I think Tom should be able to tweak it, if there is a need for it tbh, which I don't think it's neccessary
theramdans
1,251 posts
Joined September 2012
theramdans
Interesting, but how about those people who mostly only play 1/2 modes
like, the most top-tier pro players plays osu! mode mostly
some plays ctb mode mostly!
same goes for o!m and taiko
Sea_Food
484 posts
Joined September 2012
Sea_Food

theramdans wrote:

Interesting, but how about those people who mostly only play 1/2 modes
like, the most top-tier pro players plays osu! mode mostly
some plays ctb mode mostly!
same goes for o!m and taiko
If you dont plat taiko, you dont look at your taiko rank. If you dont play o!m you dont look at your o!m rank. If you dont play all modes, you dont look at your cumulative rank.
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