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Chaoslitz
nice
meii18
o/ nice buddy
OMG 400th post of mine xD !
Kurano
nice map , and finally hope it can be ranked
HW加油
Birdy
Just.
GAMI
gambatte HW :D
Nyxa

RMaltsaar wrote:

ihopethisgetsrankedsoicanplaythisonhalftime.
Gogogogogogo
Hemmi
Please HW, don't let this map be graved, do it for the top 1%'s sake :(
Kdefs
If you rank this and the CTB mapset at the same time... oh my god it will be so perfect, https://osu.ppy.sh/s/253969

ctb mapset is already bubble tho D:
BoberOfDarkness

Storm- wrote:

If you rank this and the CTB mapset at the same time... oh my god it will be so perfect, https://osu.ppy.sh/s/253969

ctb mapset is already bubble tho D:
Qualified*

I hope that your map will be too soon!
Athrun
hope!!
Hisoka
This Beatmap is SO great :D Even if I cant play it above 75% :D
murasakikana
我不会mod,我的想法你看看就好。

我一直认为你是一个“灵魂型”mapper因为,你有时候能把一首歌的aura给弄到map中去。这一点不得不服。
但是这一次,我觉得还是有些过火了。

在整体上,还是一如既往的灵魂风格,特别是最后的长滑条,很有小町武弄镰刀的架势
以及大跳,恩?我也不知道那是什么似乎是大型圆周式连打?总之,看着auto打,或者看那几个顶尖玩家的replay十分感动。

我前面说了我不会mod,但是根据我学到的知识,以及玩这个游戏体会到的,我觉得那个173大跳(?)稍稍修改一下,最大的问题也就解决了。
下面是真正的建议


173大跳,其实在osu中并不存在。那肯定是把这一串当连打来打。但是根本不存在这样的连打:
1. 右手移动时,顺时针比逆时针要顺畅。可以看到map中逆时针占多数。
2. 玩家在处理这样的情形时,它是可以预读到第5个note的。移动应该是1-->5这样。(但是不是弹道运动)因此移动速度符合拾取运动规律,
note间距应是:0----0.15~0.2-----0.5-----0.8~0.85----1。每0.25下note很容易在第二个就miss。
3. 弧度问题。手部做圆周运动虽容易,而且镰刀弧线圆形也更酷,但是你也为玩家想想吧,1----5读图方式注定运动曲线越直越好。我觉得,稍微摆一个镰刀弧线就行了。不用太直也别太弯。

完了 :)
Yales

Loctav wrote:

Unlocked upon request by Hollow Wings. Let's see how it goes. I wish you good luck, HW! Please keep my words in mind that are written before.
It seems that "osu!" doesn't want this map, but the community wants it... so what now?
Anxient

Yales wrote:

Loctav wrote:

Unlocked upon request by Hollow Wings. Let's see how it goes. I wish you good luck, HW! Please keep my words in mind that are written before.
It seems that "osu!" doesn't want this map, but the community wants it... so what now?
then potato. .-. that's what happens. well, unless HW revives this map, this isn't going anywhere .-.
Artorias_DELETED


go rank!
Depths
I hope this mod helps, I really enjoy this map and hope to see it revived

Higan Torrent


Make the OD, 9 (6.7 star map), with the amount of streams and the star difficulty I think OD9 would be best fit for this.

00:23:469 (1) - overlay on top of 00:22:949 (1) - its flow better.

00:31:879 (14) - remove this note and make 00:31:966 (15) - repeat so that you have more flow and preps you for 00:32:139 (1) -

00:37:428 (14) - ^ same as before, for consistency and flow .

00:52:949 (1) - repeat slider feels a bit out of place, and you dont seem to use it again in this section, so also feels a bit inconsistent. it follows the rhythm but plays inconsistently.

01:01:966 (1,2,3,4,5) - random burst here, not really following anything.

01:07:862 (2) - place under tail of 01:06:821 (1) - to emphasize it?

01:14:278 (1) - no need for NC here, these are readable without it.
01:14:972 (1) - ^
01:15:665 (1) - ^^

01:22:081 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I feel like you could make this flow better, I would say stack the head of 6 with the head of 3, then move 7-8 so 8 is stacked with 01:21:475 (10) - http://puu.sh/gF2r2/3d9df02c07.jpg

01:35:954 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - you do this later on as well, as I mentioned there, it feels really forced to play and mapped more for the difficulty factor.

02:40:463 (5,6,7,8) - make this mirror 02:39:769 (1,2,3,4) -

02:42:544 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - I believe you're mapping to the vocal here? maybe make the stream look more like this http://puu.sh/gEU6J/4e5c474d6a.jpg ? the arch at 8 shows the rise in the pitch of the vocal.

02:51:908 (7,8) - ctl+g to make it the same as 02:50:868 (1,2,3,4) - there is really no justification to make it different than before.

from here 02:53:642 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - to 02:57:631 (15) - it doesn't flow properly to me, seems mapped for difficulty more. the motion of reaching back feels forced.

02:59:191 (1) - to 03:18:613 (3) - I feel like mapping the flute is more important here.

03:00:579 (2) - blanket the tail here.

03:06:128 (2) - ^^

03:41:331 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - I hear what your mapping to, and you start the stream a bit late start here 03:41:157 (3) - because I hear it starting on the blue tic after 03:41:157 (3) - so I would add a note at 03:41:243 .

03:43:584 (1,2,3) - 03:43:931 (4,5,6) - switch the position of these so put 03:43:584 (1,2,3) - where 03:43:931 (4,5,6) is and so forth, I didnt feel much flow between 03:43:584 (1,2,3) and 03:43:931 (4,5,6). compared to the inconsistent spacing of 03:44:451 (9) - to 03:44:625 (10) - so by doing it adds consistent spacing.
Another thing 03:43:584 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - stresses a syllable and 03:44:278 (7,8,9,10,11,12) - stresses another.

03:46:359 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ok here the spacing is weird and I feel like you could map it more like this http://puu.sh/gEYKv/83ebae817d.jpg I mapped it like this http://puu.sh/gEYMw/96d017404a.jpg the circular flow between 4 5 and 1 is extremely nice to play and looks good imo

03:58:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the spacing throughout here is really inconsistent, make the change in spacing more consistent.

04:03:006 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - increase the spacing here, I feel like you're under stressing this part when it should be the climax.

04:17:920 (13,14,15) - I have no problem with the stack, but when you do it feels inconsistent, you do it on 13 here 04:17:920 (13,14,15) - the you do it here at the NC , which is kinda weird, so more it to here 04:19:307 (13) - to keep it consistent.

04:25:203 (1) - the position here after 04:25:116 (16) - feels really bad, you could make this flow better.

04:57:110 (1,2) - ctl+g both of these, circular flow.
Topic Starter
Hollow Wings
revived.

murasakikana wrote:

我不会mod,我的想法你看看就好。

我一直认为你是一个“灵魂型”mapper因为,你有时候能把一首歌的aura给弄到map中去。这一点不得不服。
但是这一次,我觉得还是有些过火了。

在整体上,还是一如既往的灵魂风格,特别是最后的长滑条,很有小町武弄镰刀的架势
以及大跳,恩?我也不知道那是什么似乎是大型圆周式连打?总之,看着auto打,或者看那几个顶尖玩家的replay十分感动。

我前面说了我不会mod,但是根据我学到的知识,以及玩这个游戏体会到的,我觉得那个173大跳(?)稍稍修改一下,最大的问题也就解决了。
下面是真正的建议


173大跳,其实在osu中并不存在。那肯定是把这一串当连打来打。但是根本不存在这样的连打:
←已经展现在你眼前的东西,你居然说不存在?这是我对你这个post所有想说的话。

1. 右手移动时,顺时针比逆时针要顺畅。可以看到map中逆时针占多数。
2. 玩家在处理这样的情形时,它是可以预读到第5个note的。移动应该是1-->5这样。(但是不是弹道运动)因此移动速度符合拾取运动规律,
note间距应是:0----0.15~0.2-----0.5-----0.8~0.85----1。每0.25下note很容易在第二个就miss。
3. 弧度问题。手部做圆周运动虽容易,而且镰刀弧线圆形也更酷,但是你也为玩家想想吧,1----5读图方式注定运动曲线越直越好。我觉得,稍微摆一个镰刀弧线就行了。不用太直也别太弯。

完了 :)

Its Depths wrote:

I hope this mod helps, I really enjoy this map and hope to see it revived

Higan Torrent


Make the OD, 9 (6.7 star map), with the amount of streams and the star difficulty I think OD9 would be best fit for this. od9 is too high for a bpm173 map imo. this is not as heated as some crazy beat songs with heavy drum or base track in it, so od8 can be the best.

00:23:469 (1) - overlay on top of 00:22:949 (1) - its flow better. thou it's a good idea, organizations locked stuffs' places, and current version is fine as well, so let it be like this.

00:31:879 (14) - remove this note and make 00:31:966 (15) - repeat so that you have more flow and preps you for 00:32:139 (1) - i don't agree with this with both rhythm level and even with my original hs tracks' settings. main beat in the song itself is at 00:31:791 (13) - , if there's a repeating slider, then it should be started there imo. but i wanna just keep those tapping objs for consistent of rhythm style to players, and hs system's already completed, so i think this can be kept.

00:37:428 (14) - ^ same as before, for consistency and flow . ^

00:52:949 (1) - repeat slider feels a bit out of place, and you dont seem to use it again in this section, so also feels a bit inconsistent. it follows the rhythm but plays inconsistently. i know it's not as the previous one following the vocal track as well, but it's also some kind of way expressing the base track. and indeed i set nearly all of objs following the drum and base, leaving vocal with free style.

01:01:966 (1,2,3,4,5) - random burst here, not really following anything. right, changed rhythm and composing here. i think i heard things wrong when i map this part before.

01:07:862 (2) - place under tail of 01:06:821 (1) - to emphasize it? current version can emphasize it better imo.

01:14:278 (1) - no need for NC here, these are readable without it. well, i think they're necessary, for they're not that long sliders and stacked end to head.
01:14:972 (1) - ^
01:15:665 (1) - ^^

01:22:081 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I feel like you could make this flow better, I would say stack the head of 6 with the head of 3, then move 7-8 so 8 is stacked with 01:21:475 (10) - http://puu.sh/gF2r2/3d9df02c07.jpg i've thought about that part a lot as well, but at last i choose not change here. for i lower ds at 01:22:602 (4,5) - with less emotion in vocal, which current version with stack stuff can express much more.

01:35:954 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - you do this later on as well, as I mentioned there, it feels really forced to play and mapped more for the difficulty factor. no, it's not. it's just common pattern.

02:40:463 (5,6,7,8) - make this mirror 02:39:769 (1,2,3,4) - nope. i hate symm and regular structure. i'll use or not use those kind of patterns on purpose, here i choose no. (thou i mapped symm style maps as well, some kind of being on purpose, too.

02:42:544 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - I believe you're mapping to the vocal here? maybe make the stream look more like this http://puu.sh/gEU6J/4e5c474d6a.jpg ? the arch at 8 shows the rise in the pitch of the vocal. yeah they're expressing vocal in some kind of level, but here i just wanna them in fluent line, like what i did at 02:43:931 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - and the previous kiai.

02:51:908 (7,8) - ctl+g to make it the same as 02:50:868 (1,2,3,4) - there is really no justification to make it different than before. haha nope for the emotion shifting in vocal.

from here 02:53:642 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - to 02:57:631 (15) - it doesn't flow properly to me, seems mapped for difficulty more. the motion of reaching back feels forced. believe it or not, if i changed in another style with those streams, the whole pattern will be more difficult to play. reaching back of that jumping can help you read and aim the different streams better than some fluent flow style or shorter ds jump here. you can try it and maybe the good ones in your mind by yourself in testing, if you are able to do that.

02:59:191 (1) - to 03:18:613 (3) - I feel like mapping the flute is more important here. too quiet this part is, so i don't think setting too much tapping objs here's a good idea.

03:00:579 (2) - blanket the tail here. sure, changed.

03:06:128 (2) - ^^ i'll skip this with locked organization.

03:41:331 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - I hear what your mapping to, and you start the stream a bit late start here 03:41:157 (3) - because I hear it starting on the blue tic after 03:41:157 (3) - so I would add a note at 03:41:243 . i think that beat's too quiet to be heard, thou it really exists. this part i wanna mainly follow those drum track because it's so special, missing this one can be still fine.

03:43:584 (1,2,3) - 03:43:931 (4,5,6) - switch the position of these so put 03:43:584 (1,2,3) - where 03:43:931 (4,5,6) is and so forth, I didnt feel much flow between 03:43:584 (1,2,3) and 03:43:931 (4,5,6). compared to the inconsistent spacing of 03:44:451 (9) - to 03:44:625 (10) - so by doing it adds consistent spacing.
Another thing 03:43:584 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - stresses a syllable and 03:44:278 (7,8,9,10,11,12) - stresses another. lol, this kiai is nearly full screen jumpings, so there's no flow anymore. so i just put stuffs where they can be easily read and aimed, you can take those patterns really easy imo.

03:46:359 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ok here the spacing is weird and I feel like you could map it more like this http://puu.sh/gEYKv/83ebae817d.jpg I mapped it like this http://puu.sh/gEYMw/96d017404a.jpg the circular flow between 4 5 and 1 is extremely nice to play and looks good imo sry but they are just patterns. your style is good in that way, i'm sure, but i'll insist what i've done here.

03:58:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the spacing throughout here is really inconsistent, make the change in spacing more consistent. i won't set consistent spacing when they're following inconsistent song track.

04:03:006 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - increase the spacing here, I feel like you're under stressing this part when it should be the climax. the current stream style is the perfect one i wanna express the music here.

04:17:920 (13,14,15) - I have no problem with the stack, but when you do it feels inconsistent, you do it on 13 here 04:17:920 (13,14,15) - the you do it here at the NC , which is kinda weird, so more it to here 04:19:307 (13) - to keep it consistent. same as above 2.

04:25:203 (1) - the position here after 04:25:116 (16) - feels really bad, you could make this flow better. i agree, changed the whole pattern.

04:57:110 (1,2) - ctl+g both of these, circular flow. nope, fluent flow's not good here.
discussed with loctav, reduced some messed up patterns.

thanks for modding!
Irreversible
Alright, after modding this map, I believe this is ready again.

We fixed:
  1. Messed up repeater
  2. Inaudible hitsounds
  3. Several things concerning the flow


Good luck!
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