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NM feat. Mr. E. - Love Again

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ouranhshc
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, February 18, 2011 at 5:38:27 PM

Artist: NM feat. Mr. E.
Title: Love Again
Source: Dance Dance Revolution Hottest Party 3
Tags: Xgor
BPM: 70
Filesize: 3644kb
Play Time: 01:47
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (0.6 stars, 64 notes)
  2. Hard (4.66 stars, 204 notes)
  3. Normal (3.17 stars, 121 notes)
  4. Xgor's Normal (3.68 stars, 176 notes)
Download: NM feat. Mr. E. - Love Again
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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REMAPPED
XepherX3
alright diff finished
added a little storyboard

u may need to place clouds2.png to a spot that feels good to you yourself

Download: NM feat. Mr. E. - Love Again (ouranhshc) [x3ns0r].osu
Xgor
xierbaliti
some mod in game :3

x3ns0r
why there're such strange red line?
how strange rhythm :o
XepherX3
Xgor
Felt like i needed to mod this map too :D
[All diffs]
Add a preview point at 0:59:289

[]
Call this diff Easy....
Also add the SB credits

[x3ns0r]
01:21:014 (3) - (suggestion) Make this slider 1/2 long with two reverse arrows
01:27:057 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - It sounds far better if that section was like this :)


[Xgor]
I want pretty SB credits :D

[Hard]
Add SB credits

This difficulty used 1/8 way to much and gets overmapped <.< (I liked tthe 1/8 at 01:33:057 though)
*starÄ
Gens
[General]
  1. Set a preview point.
  2. Use the source and tags on all difficulties.
[Timing]
  1. I don't get the last section. I know it's kinda unmappable, but still... be careful with that. Also, the last section must be the same way on all difficulties. [Xgor's Hard] last section is different.
[Easy]
  1. The Overall Difficulty is a bit high, especially with this slider velocity and spacing. Lower it please.
  2. Who made this difficulty? Weren't you supposed to SB credits here too?
  3. Needs more hitsounds.
01:47:033 (1) - Maybe lower the volume of this spinner? The relaxing part here was kind of weird with that "wawawawawa" sound from the spinner (just like you did in [Hard]).

[x3ns0r]
  1. Is this an Easy or Normal? I have no idea, really. The slow slider velocity makes it look all clustered and ugly. ;(
  2. Oh no! The offset is 1ms less than the other difficulties! Fix please.
00:18:014 (1,2) - Is this supposed to be a heart? Looks... ugly.
00:23:071 (1,2,3) - Irregular spacing, shouldn't take much to fix. It's really noticeable, that's why I'm pointing it out.

[Xgor's Hard]
  1. Missing SB credits here too.
01:10:043 (4,5,6) - Irregular spacing, only by a few grids.

[Hard]
  1. Needs more hitsounds.
  2. The overall difficulty is way too low for a Hard.
  3. Also, missing SB credits.
01:20:071 (5 and the other streams) - Woah, this is just overmapping the song. You don't want people complaining about streams again, do you?
01:37:000 (1 and similar sliders) - Maybe use 1/8s for these sliders? Like you did previously, at 01:33:057 (1,2,3) for example.

~ ~ ~

Yeah yeah, maybe I went a bit picky over this. I have no real problems with the map, so...
xierbaliti
No kudosu received ._.
Topic Starter
ouranhshc
srry
bmin11
[x3ns0r]
00:31:043 (1) - Remove new combo
01:03:014 (4) - make it into a better angle or just straighten it
01:03:014 (4) - Spacing

[Xgor]
00:18:014 (9) - Kill the volume or the clap
00:22:021 (7) - Kill the volume or the slider whistle (not the ends)
00:55:043 (1,2,3,4,5) - Change it into Normal hitsound

[Hard]
00:06:078 (4,6) - Whistle if you want to (sounds better to me)
00:07:086 (1) - Whistle at the end
00:09:014 (3) - Whistle
00:10:021 (4,6) - ^
I think you get the idea from here...
00:31:064 (4,5) - Kill those claps and replace it with whistles (Only at the end for #4)
00:51:014 (2) - Spacing
00:53:071 (2,3) - Kill those claps. It sounds bad
00:59:028 (1) - Argh, kill the volume for this section
01:02:093 (3) - Spacing
01:15:014 (8) - Kill the clap
01:20:093 (6,7,9,10,11) - Spacing. This is why we have Distance snap
01:24:036 (6,7) - ^
01:29:050 (4) - ^
There are lots of notes that don't have the same spacing. Put your Distance snap on

Starred
Xgor

bmin11 wrote:

[Xgor]
00:18:014 (9) - Kill the volume or the clap Nah
00:22:021 (7) - Kill the volume or the slider whistle (not the ends)Well... changed the hitsounds a bit but didn't killed the voulme :P
00:55:043 (1,2,3,4,5) - Change it into Normal hitsound NO! It sounds way better as it is right now!
Well here is my fix (It mostly contain minor things i found :P )
Download: NM feat. Mr. E. - Love Again (ouranhshc) [Xgor's Hard].osu
Also don't give me kudosu for this post
Leorda
[General]
Use a pink and purple combo colour. This song is from where? DDR X2 or DDR HP3?

[Easy]
00:21:575 (3) - Hold Shift button and move. If you spot some lines from left, release it

[x3ns0r's normal]
00:45:146 (4,5,6) - Allign with 3 (end of slider)
01:13:432 (6) - New combo
01:13:861 (1) - No new combo


Damn, this song is make me sleppy.....
I don't like this song. No star.......
Topic Starter
ouranhshc

Leorda wrote:

[General]
Use a pink and purple combo colour. This song is from where? DDR X2 or DDR HP3?

[Easy]
[b]00:21:575 (3) - Hold Shift button and move. If you spot some lines from left, release it
doone

[x3ns0r's normal]done
00:45:146 (4,5,6) - Allign with 3 (end of slider)
01:13:432 (6) - New combo
01:13:861 (1) - No new combo


Damn, this song is make me sleppy.....
I don't like this song. No star.......wut.
Matma Rex
[Overall]
In the storyboard, I think you should make the heartcloud less faded. It took me some time to see what is it.
WHAAAT THE HELL are these ugly things in all five cloud images D: WHAT DID YOU DOOOO D:
Map Chatmonchy - Last Love Letter has much nicer heart star2.png. I suggest to borrow it.

[Easy]
If you rename the two diffs below, this one might be called Beginner.
IMO, you should respace the whole difficulty with 1.5x or 1.6x distance spacing. It feels really cluttered now.

[x3ns0r's Normal]
I'd call it Easy.
00:18:014 (1,2) - make it nicer. For example, use this:
256,176,18146,6,0,B|288:160|312:168|320:200|320:240|256:320,1,200
256,176,20289,2,0,B|224:160|200:168|192:200|192:240|256:320,1,200
(paste it at the end of .osu file)

[Xgor's Hard]
It's Normal, not hard. Rename it.
00:17:028 (6,7) - stacking breaks distance spacing. You have to either manually fix it by moving 00:17:071 (7,8,9) and following notes a bit down and right.
00:21:014 (3,4,5,6) - again, stacking breaks distance spacing. Fix it.
01:26:071 (2) - FFFFFFFFUUUUUU it looks so goddamn ugly D: Remove it and paste this code at the end of .osu file to get a cute heart:
280,352,86718,2,0,B|536:208|392:-120|256:72|256:72|120:-72|-8:208|248:360,1,1000,0|0
Make sure to fix spacing and things like that after changing it.
01:31:043 (1,2) - make it symmetrical?
(spinner at the end) - I suggest to place a note at 01:47:033 and start spinner 1/8 later.

[Hard]
Streeeeeeeaaaams!


Soo, that's it. Starred.
XepherX3
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: NM feat. Mr. E. - Love Again (ouranhshc) [x3ns0r's normal].osu
Xgor

Matma Rex wrote:

[Xgor's Hard]
It's Normal, not hard. Rename it. I won't change it
00:17:028 (6,7) - stacking breaks distance spacing. You have to either manually fix it by moving 00:17:071 (7,8,9) and following notes a bit down and right.
00:21:014 (3,4,5,6) - again, stacking breaks distance spacing. Fix it.
01:26:071 (2) - FFFFFFFFUUUUUU it looks so goddamn ugly D: Remove it and paste this code at the end of .osu file to get a cute heart:
280,352,86718,2,0,B|536:208|392:-120|256:72|256:72|120:-72|-8:208|248:360,1,1000,0|0
Make sure to fix spacing and things like that after changing it.
01:31:043 (1,2) - make it symmetrical?
(spinner at the end) - I suggest to place a note at 01:47:033 and start spinner 1/8 later..Are I'm the only one that thinks that having a spinner 1/8 after a note is lame <.< (I won't change)
Did all the rest :)
Download: NM feat. Mr. E. - Love Again (ouranhshc) [Xgor's Hard].osu
Matma Rex
Are I'm the only one that thinks that having a spinner 1/8 after a note is lame <.< (I won't change)
If you want a note to "start" a spinner, placing it 1/4 or 1/8 after is IMO only good way of doing it. However, if note and spinner are meant to be "separate", there should be more space between them.

To me, it looked like it was the first case.
XepherX3
anonymous_old
General
SB sucks. Sorry.

Beginner
Lower OD.

00:23:718 (1) - Kill a repeat but keep the same length, maybe?
00:36:146 (5,1) - Too close.
00:56:718 (3,4,5) - Spacingwhat.
01:01:003 (2,3,4) - Too close.
01:02:718 (3) - lolwut snapping.

whoever's Easy
This is a Normal.
I don't like it, though.
Dunno why.
Beginner > this.

Xgor's Normal
IMO increase Circle Size.
01:26:503 (1,2) - Stack.
01:32:718 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:33:361 (4,1,2,3) - Identicul plz.
01:34:646 (4,5,1,2,3) - Looks ugly.

Hard
Any non-straight notes shouldn't be grid snapped. They look ugly snapped because of the wide variance in spacing. Look at it in HR if you can't tell without HR.
Card N'FoRcE
- General:
  • Oh god that broken heart at the ending is creepy D:
    I think the full heart in fade fits way better.
- Beginner:
  • .Opinions:
    Actually, i'd say 00:18:146 (1) should be moved a bit farther, but it's playable anyway.
- x3ns0ror's Easy:
  • .Opinions:
    01:20:718 (2,3) - i found this a bit confusing: the low overall kinda confused me.
    .Suggestions:
    01:22:861 (4) - move it closer to the previous beat, it's too far atm
    01:27:575 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hard
- Xgor's Normal:
  • .Opinions:
    Great
- Hard:
  • .Opinions:
    Good, but i think the beginning lacks hitsounds.
Good job ^^
XepherX3
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: NM feat. Mr. E. - Love Again (ouranhshc) [x3ns0r's Easy].osu
Xgor
Leorda
Sorry, the last I post It was when I having a bad mood

[General]
1) love and again is in the title, so we don't need "love" and "again" on tags
2) mr.e is in the artist, so we don't need "mr.e" on tags

BTW, if you want some skin, here it is
Download: Skin for your beatmap, enjoy ^u~.rar
If anyone mod about my skin, PM Me

STAR
DeathxShinigami
thank you xens0r an xgor
In parahenthesis (Thank you x3ns0r for skin/diff and Xgor for diff)

Lots of irc modding that was sadly lost after a mis-edit

Ouran can hopefully vouch for me. ^^ Almost there team <3
Shinde
Storyboard/Visual
Should use custom colors for hitcircles. I recommend the following vaguely.
Combo1 : 89,140,183
Combo2 : 155,111,185
Combo3 : 159,57,60
Combo4 : 234,234,234
The heart pieces at the end don't join properly. Fix this in notepad or in the SBE.

I'd blur the slider cause Use the attached. Might wanna include a slider ball ring as whatever skin they're using will be taken for it. Blue one would be good. Star2 should be blurred. Use attached in box. Rescale spinner BG. It's fawking huge. Pretty sure max is supposed to be 1024x800 like with BG restrictions.

Xen's Easy
00:18:146 (1,2) - Fatten these up. Too thin heart.
Just a general opinion, I think you could've used a slightly higher velocity even for an easy. Sliders a little clunky. Not much to suggest changing though.

Xgor's Normal
01:26:718 (2) - Nice heart.
That is all.

Hard
Spacing's* a tad high imo, just didn't seem to fit the song. The 2x or increased spacing parts or whatever. Just didn't think these parts were very fun.

Tags and fun technical things seem in check. Don't like the song much, map's not bad. Cute BG n stuff.


orioncomet
I love this song, just come for shoot star to you ⌒ヽ∑('0'*)
blissfulyoshi
As Leorda said, remove "love," "again," "mr.," and "e" from the tags (read her post for the reasoning)
Add all the guest mappers names to the tags for every diff. (You might want to credit the ppl who helped with the sb and skin too)

Is the second uniherited timing section needed?

x3ns0r's Easy:
Combo mod:
01:16:003 (6) - new combo?
01:22:861 (4) - new combo?

Timing section mod:
00:20:289 - unneeded timing section, please remove
00:23:744 - move a quarter note backward
00:25:133 - unneeded timing section, please remove
00:28:454 - ^
00:53:958 - ^
00:55:029 - ^
01:13:967 - ^
01:47:075 - can't you lower the hitsound volume to lowest here instead of making the next inherited timing section

Xgor's Normal:
Timing section mod:
00:13:861 - unneeded timing sections, please remove both of them
01:26:718 - unneeded timing section, please remove

Hard:
Combo mod:
00:13:003 (4) - new combo to continue your pattern
During the lyrical parts of the map, I am at a huge loss at what your pattern for putting combos is, so please explain it to me or change the way combos are added.

Timing section mod:
01:26:718 - a quarter note before this timing section, make a timing section with the same hitsound settings but with kiai

==========================
Nice map. Fix up hard and the timing sections, and I might give a p-bubble. Star.
YGOkid8
x3ns0r's Easy
01:20:289 (1) - imo, remove. newbies aren't good at spin recovery.

Xgor's Normal
Beautiful.

Hard
01:21:575 (9) - New Combo.
01:23:289 (3) - ^

01:22:861 (1) - No New Combo.

Overall, a beautiful map. Star ~ ☆
aRiskOfRain
All of this is perfect. I can't find anything wrong.

I hope this gets ranked before valentine's day, have a star.
gdeath
[Hard]
00:15:575 (4) - remove clap.(the song is too soft,clap is not suitable imo)
00:20:289 --->> 00:29:718 add some soft-whistle for this part
00:55:646 (2,6) - remove whistle
00:59:289 --->> 01:33:361 - too loud.try volume 80%
01:19:861 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - use some sliders to keep rhythm.
you used too many circle here.rhythm was already broken

[Xgor's Normal]
start--->>00:59:289 a bit loud.try volume 85%
00:59:289--->> 01:33:361 too loud.volume 70-80%

[x3ns0r's Easy]
Decrease slidertick.sound bad.
volume of hitsound is the same suggestion as above diffs

Star.
Diasios

Card N'FoRcE wrote:

Oh god that broken heart at the ending is creepy D:
I think the full heart in fade fits way better.
Btw Pubbled~
DJPop
~x3ns0r's Easy~
00:34:004 (1) - move left 1 grid (Lv3)
01:16:003 (6) - new combo
01:28:861 (4) - move up 1 grid (Lv2)

~Xgor's Normal~
00:52:432 (9) - new combo
01:21:361 (5) - make it symmetry

~Hard~
00:35:503 (3) - move right 1 grid (Lv3)
00:38:503 (2) - move down 1 grid (Lv3)
01:01:432 (8,9,10,11) - wrong spacings
01:06:575 (3,5) - move up 1 grid (Lv3)
01:06:789 (4) - move up 3 grids (Lv3)
01:21:575 (9) - new combo
01:22:861 (1) - remove new combo
01:23:289 (3) - new combo


+Star
The 08 team_Bourdon
nice~~

give a star~ ;)
Lybydose
un-graved
HackSMW
star :D
Topic Starter
ouranhshc
REMAPPED
Crimmi
Modding, CrimmiStyle!!

[Easy]

~ Nothing.

[Normal]

~ Nothing.

[Hard]

~ Nothing.
Xgor
<3 again
Download: NM feat. Mr. E. - Love Again (ouranhshc) [Xgor's Normal].osu
This remap makes it so much sexier
Haneii
~General~

Having the spinner meter on the default background while the spin meter actually goes around the spin circle looks a bit odd. Suggestion: get a spinner BG?

no kiai time?

mp3 needs to be 192 :P

nothing else

~Twinkle twinkle little starS~
Zelos
General:

yeahyeahyeahhh will rage at you. just follow the cyclone rule.
remove Hottest Party 3 from source and put it in tags.

May i suggest using the Kiai time set by Xgor on his diff?

Xgor's Normal:

00:55:432 (1,2,3,4,5) - really now? jumps on a Normal?

anyways star.

now get this damn thing bubbled. there isnt much more you can do to it.
Kitsunemimi
Uuuu~ Late mod.. ~_~

[Easy]:
00:19:003 (5) - AUUGHH OMG WHAT IS THAT WRONG HITSOUND @_@
Oh huh, other than that, this one's perfect.

[Normal]:
01:20:718 (2,3) - A bit confusing.
01:27:789 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Normals usually stick to the main rhythm, so maybe you could make these notes... stick to the main rhythm ._.

[Hard]:
00:39:146 (4,5) - These should be repositioned symmetrically

........ o3o
Really really good map, really, it's awesome.
Rukario
General:
- Hello 320 kbps mp3 are completly forbidden doesn't matter when it was uploaded. Reencode it to 192 kbps and full submit.
- Why is there SB code in every single diff's .osu files if there are no SB elements?
- In Xgor's diff is the Audio Lead-in missing.

Easy:
Looks alright.

Normal:
Looks alright.

Xgor's Normal:
Why not Tick rate 2 like in all the other diffs.
00:55:432 (1,2,3,4,5) - Jumps? In a Normal?
00:57:361 - Break is not really needed I think.

Hard:
Looks alright.

I hate to do this but I can't give a star with unrankable mistakes. Sorry fix this and when there are less bubbles get me to bubble.
Wonderful map.
Topic Starter
ouranhshc

Rukarioman wrote:

General:
- Hello 320 kbps mp3 are completly forbidden doesn't matter when it was uploaded. Reencode it to 192 kbps and full submit.fixed
- Why is there SB code in every single diff's .osu files if there are no SB elements?fixed
- In Xgor's diff is the Audio Lead-in missing.

Easy:
Looks alright.

Normal:
Looks alright.

Xgor's Normal:
Why not Tick rate 2 like in all the other diffs.
00:55:432 (1,2,3,4,5) - Jumps? In a Normal?
00:57:361 - Break is not really needed I think.

Hard:
Looks alright.

I hate to do this but I can't give a star with unrankable mistakes. Sorry fix this and when there are less bubbles get me to bubble.
Wonderful map.
Xgor

ouranhshc wrote:

- Why is there SB code in every single diff's .osu files if there are no SB elements?fixed
- In Xgor's diff is the Audio Lead-in missing.I fail to understand why lead in is needed at all and it would make more sense if there wasn't any lead in at all... anyways done.

Xgor's Normal:
Why not Tick rate 2 like in all the other diffs.Because Tick rate 1 sounds much better at some parts
00:55:432 (1,2,3,4,5) - Jumps? In a Normal? It's supposed to be more like an hard <.< Made it a bit less harsh though
00:57:361 - Break is not really needed I think.Yeah... It's pretty stupid, mapped on it.
Download: NM feat. Mr. E. - Love Again (ouranhshc) [Xgor's Normal].osu
Topic Starter
ouranhshc
updated
xierbaliti
-Normal-
at least you should OD-1. OD6 is hard

-Xgor-
map is good, only a suggestion:
80% Volume in KIAI part? 100% sounds too loud.


nice map. +star :3

EDIT:all fine to me, bubbled!
James2250
Here to point out a few things~

-The last timing section sounds strange in the timing panel. After talking about it with bliss he suggests an offset at 105,673 with a bpm of 68.000 which makes the slider and the spinner there work well but might not be perfect for the song. Go bug another timer quickly? :D
-Your first offset seems like it is pretty far off at the moment... I get around 1090 for it. Quickly asked bliss and he recommends 1086. Don't forget to resnap all your notes/kiai etc
-Up to you if you want to move "Hottest Party 3" to tags or not. Seeing as your other maps have it the same way I would leave it as it is now for the sake of consistency
-Not sure if I like countdown with this song, guess it can stay~

Easy:
Maybe make AR or OD -1 for the easiest difficulty? Slightly high for an Easy right now

Xgor's Normal:
-Those finishes are loud compared to the song. I suggest you turn down your audio sections or make a custom finish that is slightly quieter. (Make sure to turn down the audio for the ones using normal settings, even if its for kiai)
-Increase stats slightly so they match up more with the other Normal? They are the same as Easy basically atm
-A few unsnapped notes
00:53:971 (12,2) - overlaps like this don't look great while playing
00:58:090 (1,1) - why 2 new combos here?
01:47:113 (1) - makes more sense if you start this at the same place as the other difficulties in my opinion

-Random Krisom comments about the scorebar (bad cutting for pic)


Everything else looks good. Call me back after fixes for a rebubble~
Xgor

James2250 wrote:

Here to point out a few things~

-The last timing section sounds strange in the timing panel. After talking about it with bliss he suggests an offset at 105,673 with a bpm of 68.000 which makes the slider and the spinner there work well but might not be perfect for the song. Go bug another timer quickly? :D Sounds even worse.... I got a feeling the current timing is more close
-Your first offset seems like it is pretty far off at the moment... I get around 1090 for it. Quickly asked bliss and he recommends 1086. Don't forget to resnap all your notes/kiai etc Sounds worse for me... but that might be due to that I have the old mp3 <.<
-Up to you if you want to move "Hottest Party 3" to tags or not. Seeing as your other maps have it the same way I would leave it as it is now for the sake of consistency You decide here ouran
-Not sure if I like countdown with this song, guess it can stay~^

Easy:
Maybe make AR or OD -1 for the easiest difficulty? Slightly high for an Easy right now

Xgor's Normal:
-Those finishes are loud compared to the song. I suggest you turn down your audio sections or make a custom finish that is slightly quieter. (Make sure to turn down the audio for the ones using normal settings, even if its for kiai) I find the loudness fit quite well here.
-Increase stats slightly so they match up more with the other Normal? They are the same as Easy basically atm
-A few unsnapped notes Don't see any :?
00:53:971 (12,2) - overlaps like this don't look great while playing Fixed in a ugly way~
00:58:090 (1,1) - why 2 new combos here? I dunno how this came up...
01:47:113 (1) - makes more sense if you start this at the same place as the other difficulties in my opinion Meh done.
Download: NM feat. Mr. E. - Love Again (ouranhshc) [Xgor's Normal].osu
Plese fix the timing/tags and stuff yourself. I'm pretty unsure if they correct and stuff and that you will change it.
Topic Starter
ouranhshc
done
James2250
Timing seems to all be fixed as well as some other things (sliders resnapped, kiai fixed)
Still think Xgor's is loud for the song but just my opinion so fine~

Rebubbled~

(Make sure that last timing section is fine before rank :P)
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