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Torleif Thedeen - Suite Nr.1 G-Dur, BWV 1007 I. Prelude

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pishifat
osu! Paragon
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pishifat
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 1:03:58 PM

Artist: Torleif Thedeen
Title: Suite Nr.1 G-Dur, BWV 1007 I. Prelude
Tags: bach classical cello
BPM: 55
Filesize: 4220kb
Play Time: 02:05
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (2.57 stars, 243 notes)
  2. Insane (4.12 stars, 388 notes)
  3. Normal (1.89 stars, 178 notes)
Download: Torleif Thedeen - Suite Nr.1 G-Dur, BWV 1007 I. Prelude
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Last edited by pishifat , edited 49 times in total.
those
3,136 posts
Joined November 2010
those 
2014-03-29 20:42 pishifat: so i see what you mean by overlapping stuff in taiko
2014-03-29 20:42 pishifat: but i don't see exactly how to fix it
2014-03-29 20:42 pishifat: with omitting the first barline
2014-03-29 20:43 pishifat: ...or what that means
2014-03-29 20:44 those: do you study music theory at all?
2014-03-29 20:44 those: if you do it's a lot easier to explain
2014-03-29 20:45 pishifat: the most i can do musically is read sheet music :/
2014-03-29 20:48 those: Basically, every red line that isn't the start of a measure
2014-03-29 20:49 those: needs the first bar line omitted
2014-03-29 20:49 those: otherwise you'll see random barlines appearing when you play taiko
2014-03-29 20:49 those: also the scroll rate for taiko is affected by the slider velocity, so there isn't much you can do about that if you're mapping for standard only
2014-03-29 20:50 those: basically you want to mark the start of every measure
2014-03-29 20:50 those: then omit first barline for every red line that isn't marked
2014-03-29 20:50 pishifat: still confused about what you mean by omitting the first barline
2014-03-29 20:50 those: It's under Style in F6
2014-03-29 20:51 pishifat: oh
2014-03-29 20:51 pishifat: well that makes things easier
2014-03-29 20:51 those: yeah
2014-03-29 20:51 those: so starting from circle 1 is a measure
2014-03-29 20:51 those: then circle 9 is a measure
2014-03-29 20:51 those: and basically every 8x + 1 is a start of a new measure
2014-03-29 20:51 pishifat: yeah got it
2014-03-29 20:52 pishifat: so other than that it's rankable with this kind of weird timing?
2014-03-29 20:52 those: for every red line not landing on a combo number that is 8x+1, you omit first barline
2014-03-29 20:52 those: Well yes, if you actually map it
2014-03-29 20:52 pishifat: of course
2014-03-29 20:52 those: it seems very accurately timed
2014-03-29 20:52 those: did you use any external program by any chance
2014-03-29 20:53 pishifat: nope
2014-03-29 20:53 those: then you have a talent
2014-03-29 20:53 pishifat: trial and error ftw
2014-03-29 20:53 pishifat: i have the ability to not get too bored timing actually :P
2014-03-29 20:53 pishifat: wlel thanks for your help
2014-03-29 20:53 pishifat: if i could give you kudosu i would :D
2014-03-29 20:54 those: if you want to reward me with one, I can just post this chatlog on your thread
2014-03-29 20:54 pishifat: go for it
2014-03-29 20:55 those: Looking forward to seeing this come to fruition
GoldenWolf
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GoldenWolf
oh god this timing
take this star already
pishifat
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pishifat

GoldenWolf wrote:

oh god this timing
take this star already
golden star awwyea
Kinshara
823 posts
Joined November 2013
Kinshara
irc mod
2014-07-08 12:04 Kinshara: hey are you free for irc mod?
2014-07-08 12:09 pishifat: yeah sure
2014-07-08 12:09 pishifat: was getting food, so sorry for the delay :P
2014-07-08 12:09 Kinshara: no problem
2014-07-08 12:10 Kinshara: ah sorry
2014-07-08 12:10 Kinshara: downloading your map
2014-07-08 12:10 Kinshara: oh quick dl e.e nvm
2014-07-08 12:10 pishifat: take your time i'm eating lol
2014-07-08 12:11 pishifat: also while modding, ignore the hitsounds
2014-07-08 12:11 pishifat: they're going to be changed
2014-07-08 12:11 Kinshara: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/431999 Torleif Thedeen - Suite No. 1 BWV 1007: Prelude I [Normal]]
2014-07-08 12:11 Kinshara: ok what is up with these timing points
2014-07-08 12:11 Kinshara: there are like so many lol
2014-07-08 12:11 Kinshara: and okay
2014-07-08 12:11 pishifat: 320 i think
2014-07-08 12:11 pishifat: they are beauty
2014-07-08 12:11 Kinshara: wow
2014-07-08 12:11 Kinshara: anyway i guess this song's just messed up
2014-07-08 12:11 Kinshara: so i won't comment :p
2014-07-08 12:12 pishifat: yeah there's pretty much no consistent timing
2014-07-08 12:12 pishifat: a few sections near the end stay stable for about 5 seconds though
2014-07-08 12:12 pishifat: which is pretty impressive
2014-07-08 12:12 Kinshara: dang
2014-07-08 12:12 Kinshara: well props to you
2014-07-08 12:12 Kinshara: for being able to time like a pro
2014-07-08 12:13 Kinshara: btw i suggest 1/2 snap divisor
2014-07-08 12:13 pishifat: well thanks :P
2014-07-08 12:13 Kinshara: just so you don't make 1/4 rhythm mistakes lol
2014-07-08 12:13 pishifat: yeah... that won't ever happen :P
2014-07-08 12:13 pishifat: when making sliders i use 1/16 snapping
2014-07-08 12:13 pishifat: since i have to snap all sliders manually anyway
2014-07-08 12:14 Kinshara: ah ok
2014-07-08 12:14 Kinshara: if i am not talking
2014-07-08 12:14 Kinshara: it's because i am taking screen pics
2014-07-08 12:14 Kinshara: to show you lol
2014-07-08 12:14 pishifat: lolk
2014-07-08 12:15 pishifat: i will eat my sandwich in the meantime
2014-07-08 12:15 Kinshara: this rhythm is so messed up because of timing
2014-07-08 12:15 Kinshara: this will be hard to mod
2014-07-08 12:15 Kinshara: but i never back down from a challenge e.e
2014-07-08 12:16 pishifat: lol
2014-07-08 12:16 pishifat: good luck :P
2014-07-08 12:17 Kinshara: so far nothing bad o:
2014-07-08 12:17 Kinshara: nice mapping
2014-07-08 12:17 Kinshara: 00:04:025 (3,1) -
2014-07-08 12:17 Kinshara: although here
2014-07-08 12:17 Kinshara: i know this is nitpicky
2014-07-08 12:17 Kinshara: but
2014-07-08 12:17 Kinshara: 00:04:025 (3) - shape this a bit more
2014-07-08 12:17 Kinshara: so it sorta fits in with the other slider's curve
2014-07-08 12:18 pishifat: hmm yeah
2014-07-08 12:18 pishifat: i think the manual snapping broke that -.-
2014-07-08 12:18 pishifat: i'll have to change
2014-07-08 12:18 Kinshara: also
2014-07-08 12:18 Kinshara: 00:05:024 (1) - i'd suggest moving this a bit further away
2014-07-08 12:18 Kinshara: it's too close to the 3 slider
2014-07-08 12:18 Kinshara: doesn't look too good imo
2014-07-08 12:19 pishifat: you mean 00:02:980 (3) - or 00:07:055 (3) -
2014-07-08 12:19 Kinshara: well
2014-07-08 12:20 Kinshara: no
2014-07-08 12:20 Kinshara: 00:04:025 (3,1) -
2014-07-08 12:20 Kinshara: either the 3 slider or 1 slider
2014-07-08 12:20 Kinshara: they're too close together
2014-07-08 12:20 pishifat: so 00:02:980 (3) -
2014-07-08 12:20 pishifat: k
2014-07-08 12:21 pishifat: does look kind of bad. will get rid of the ovelrap
2014-07-08 12:21 Kinshara: swait
2014-07-08 12:21 Kinshara: i feel like w're not looking at the same map
2014-07-08 12:21 Kinshara: or you changed something
2014-07-08 12:21 Kinshara: btw showed your map to a BAT lol
2014-07-08 12:22 pishifat: i've got the latest pending version so i dunno what you're tlaking about o.o
2014-07-08 12:22 Kinshara: he wanted to see the 320 timing pts
2014-07-08 12:22 pishifat: lol...
2014-07-08 12:22 pishifat: who
2014-07-08 12:22 Kinshara: mmzz
2014-07-08 12:23 Kinshara: 00:04:025 (3) -
2014-07-08 12:23 Kinshara: this slider
2014-07-08 12:23 Kinshara: let me take a pic
2014-07-08 12:23 Kinshara: http://puu.sh/a2umC/66e31714d3.jpg
2014-07-08 12:23 Kinshara: these two sliders are a bit too close
2014-07-08 12:23 pishifat: i see...
2014-07-08 12:23 pishifat: are you sure you have the updated version
2014-07-08 12:24 pishifat: cuz 3 should be 4 there
2014-07-08 12:24 Kinshara: eh
2014-07-08 12:24 Kinshara: i just downloaded it lol
2014-07-08 12:24 Kinshara: let me check
2014-07-08 12:24 Kinshara: oh no
2014-07-08 12:24 Kinshara: it was my fault lol
2014-07-08 12:24 Kinshara: i accidentally changed something
2014-07-08 12:24 pishifat: okay lol
2014-07-08 12:24 pishifat: i'll make them further apart
2014-07-08 12:24 pishifat: no reason not to
2014-07-08 12:24 Kinshara: anyway but yea
2014-07-08 12:25 Kinshara: 00:09:742 (5,2) -
2014-07-08 12:25 Kinshara: this is unrankable
2014-07-08 12:25 pishifat: oh yeah
2014-07-08 12:25 pishifat: oops -.-
2014-07-08 12:25 Kinshara: lol
2014-07-08 12:27 Kinshara: i like pointing out things i like
2014-07-08 12:27 Kinshara: 00:30:623 (2,3,4) -
2014-07-08 12:27 Kinshara: i like this pattern a lot
2014-07-08 12:27 pishifat: well thanks :3
2014-07-08 12:28 Kinshara: 00:33:440 (2,4) - these two sort of overlap in a bad way
2014-07-08 12:28 pishifat: yes
2014-07-08 12:28 pishifat: yes they do
2014-07-08 12:28 Kinshara: if you can
2014-07-08 12:28 Kinshara: and if you want to do overlaps
2014-07-08 12:29 Kinshara: do overlaps like these: http://puu.sh/a2uOj/5f0c47d673.jpg
2014-07-08 12:29 pishifat: what is wrong with that screenshot o.o
2014-07-08 12:29 pishifat: and i'll try tha
2014-07-08 12:29 Kinshara: hmm? .o.
2014-07-08 12:29 pishifat: screenshot has some exploding text on it
2014-07-08 12:30 Kinshara: god your patterns fit this song really nicely
2014-07-08 12:30 Kinshara: oh
2014-07-08 12:30 Kinshara: yea
2014-07-08 12:30 Kinshara: i see it
2014-07-08 12:30 Kinshara: must be a glitch lol
2014-07-08 12:30 pishifat: yeah o.o
2014-07-08 12:32 Kinshara: 00:53:798 (3) -
2014-07-08 12:32 Kinshara: wow i don't know what to say
2014-07-08 12:32 pishifat: you either think it's gross or it's good
2014-07-08 12:32 pishifat: there is no inbetween
2014-07-08 12:33 Kinshara: well it's neither
2014-07-08 12:33 Kinshara: oh fck
2014-07-08 12:33 pishifat: _there is no inbetween_
2014-07-08 12:33 Kinshara: in terms of flow and rankability
2014-07-08 12:33 Kinshara: your normal seems good so far
2014-07-08 12:34 pishifat: woo
2014-07-08 12:34 pishifat: and rankability
2014-07-08 12:34 pishifat: that reverse slider would disagree
2014-07-08 12:34 Kinshara: yea
2014-07-08 12:34 Kinshara: but you fixed it
2014-07-08 12:34 Kinshara: right? o.o
2014-07-08 12:34 pishifat: yes of course :P
2014-07-08 12:37 Kinshara: okay
2014-07-08 12:38 Kinshara: 01:32:815 -
2014-07-08 12:38 Kinshara: after here
2014-07-08 12:38 Kinshara: try varing your rhythm
2014-07-08 12:38 Kinshara: too many 1/1 sliders
2014-07-08 12:38 Kinshara: it'll get boring
2014-07-08 12:38 pishifat: yeah probably
2014-07-08 12:38 pishifat: you won't like what's in the insane difficulty :P
2014-07-08 12:38 Kinshara: you can also try 1/1 reverse
2014-07-08 12:39 Kinshara: Lel
2014-07-08 12:39 pishifat: saving the reverses for 01:38:144 (4) -
2014-07-08 12:39 pishifat: makes a lot more sense there
2014-07-08 12:39 Kinshara: oh okay
2014-07-08 12:39 Kinshara: still try having longer sliders in between
2014-07-08 12:39 Kinshara: or shorter ones
2014-07-08 12:39 pishifat: but yeah i'll change stuff
2014-07-08 12:40 Kinshara: 01:34:188 (1) -
2014-07-08 12:40 Kinshara: like for this you can do
2014-07-08 12:40 Kinshara: http://puu.sh/a2vQk/b2827e7c16.jpg
2014-07-08 12:40 Kinshara: a 2 beat length slider
2014-07-08 12:41 Kinshara: 01:34:188 (1) - and over here you can do something like
2014-07-08 12:41 pishifat: uh
2014-07-08 12:41 Kinshara: http://puu.sh/a2vUw/dc477493b4.jpg
2014-07-08 12:41 pishifat: thats the same timestamp :|
2014-07-08 12:41 Kinshara: woops
2014-07-08 12:41 Kinshara: 01:35:007 (2) -
2014-07-08 12:41 Kinshara: i meant that
2014-07-08 12:41 Kinshara: or well
2014-07-08 12:41 Kinshara: at this point in the song: 01:35:007 -
2014-07-08 12:42 pishifat: yeah i got it
2014-07-08 12:42 pishifat: rhythms will be less meh there
2014-07-08 12:42 Kinshara: i actually take back the ranking thing because i am not sure about the timing of this song
2014-07-08 12:43 pishifat: https://i.ppy.sh/053e37fb685c73ac510207 ... 342e706e67
2014-07-08 12:43 pishifat: giant link
2014-07-08 12:43 pishifat: i put that in the map description box tho
2014-07-08 12:43 pishifat: for you non-believers
2014-07-08 12:43 Kinshara: okay
2014-07-08 12:44 Kinshara: it wasn't that i didn't believe you o:
2014-07-08 12:44 Kinshara: it was just that i don't know
2014-07-08 12:44 Kinshara: \\not so good at timing heh\\
2014-07-08 12:44 pishifat: lol
2014-07-08 12:44 Kinshara: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/446461 Torleif Thedeen - Suite No. 1 BWV 1007: Prelude I [Hard]]
2014-07-08 12:45 pishifat: my body is ready
2014-07-08 12:45 Kinshara: 1/16th snap divisor lel
2014-07-08 12:45 Kinshara: okay i know why you did it though
2014-07-08 12:45 Kinshara: so not gonna comment
2014-07-08 12:45 pishifat: yeah lol
2014-07-08 12:47 Kinshara: 00:13:820 (2) - maybe blanket this
2014-07-08 12:47 Kinshara: 00:13:068 (1) - around this
2014-07-08 12:47 Kinshara: if possible for you
2014-07-08 12:47 pishifat: looks blanketted to me o.o
2014-07-08 12:47 pishifat: http://i.gyazo.com/99c02f2383a5d71469cc232a1d05f389.png
2014-07-08 12:48 Kinshara: eh nvm
2014-07-08 12:48 Kinshara: i wasn't looking lol
2014-07-08 12:48 pishifat: lolz
2014-07-08 12:48 Kinshara: so far so good o:
2014-07-08 12:48 pishifat: i already know where the first problem will be
2014-07-08 12:48 pishifat: just waiting for it
2014-07-08 12:49 Kinshara: shit don't say
2014-07-08 12:49 Kinshara: if i don't mention it
2014-07-08 12:49 Kinshara: then it'll look bad xD
2014-07-08 12:49 pishifat: you will
2014-07-08 12:49 pishifat: i know you will :P
2014-07-08 12:49 Kinshara: so much pressure q.q
2014-07-08 12:50 Kinshara: i am really looking for flow and things that make this map unrankable
2014-07-08 12:50 Kinshara: 00:36:716 (2,3) - when doing things like this
2014-07-08 12:50 Kinshara: do ctrl g on the next slider
2014-07-08 12:51 Kinshara: it makes it flow better
2014-07-08 12:51 Kinshara: http://puu.sh/a2wMy/456dbb3a0b.jpg so like this
2014-07-08 12:51 pishifat: works in that case
2014-07-08 12:51 pishifat: but the next one
2014-07-08 12:51 pishifat: not so much
2014-07-08 12:51 Kinshara: 00:38:019 (2,3) - you mean these?
2014-07-08 12:51 pishifat: ya
2014-07-08 12:52 Kinshara: oh no
2014-07-08 12:52 Kinshara: that's a diff pattern all together lol
2014-07-08 12:52 Kinshara: although you know what'll look good let me take a pic
2014-07-08 12:52 pishifat: k
2014-07-08 12:53 Kinshara: http://puu.sh/a2wWq/01c56641c3.jpg
2014-07-08 12:53 Kinshara: doing something like that
2014-07-08 12:53 pishifat: so just angling differently
2014-07-08 12:53 Kinshara: yea and straight lines
2014-07-08 12:53 Kinshara: not bent
2014-07-08 12:54 pishifat: i'd rather keep straight lines
2014-07-08 12:54 pishifat: sicne every other instance is already bent and that would look weird
2014-07-08 12:54 pishifat: but i'll do that angling stuff since i like
2014-07-08 12:54 Kinshara: okay
2014-07-08 12:55 Kinshara: 00:39:401 (2,3) -
2014-07-08 12:55 Kinshara: try the ctrl + g thing here as well
2014-07-08 12:55 Kinshara: but make 3 bend the other way
2014-07-08 12:55 Kinshara: or well no don't do ctrl +g
2014-07-08 12:56 pishifat: you sure o.o
2014-07-08 12:56 Kinshara: but just make 3 bend in a way
2014-07-08 12:56 Kinshara: to make it blanket 2
2014-07-08 12:56 Kinshara: sort of
2014-07-08 12:56 Kinshara: http://puu.sh/a2xg0/178a3d1649.jpg
2014-07-08 12:56 pishifat: so it's like a refelction of 2 k
2014-07-08 12:57 Kinshara: yea and it helps when you do these types of patterns to copy the same slider :3
2014-07-08 12:57 Kinshara: sorry i am being so nit picky
2014-07-08 12:57 Kinshara: there aren't any major problems yet
2014-07-08 12:58 pishifat: yet
2014-07-08 12:58 pishifat: ;-;
2014-07-08 13:00 Kinshara: http://puu.sh/a2xg0/178a3d1649.jpg
2014-07-08 13:00 Kinshara: ugh
2014-07-08 13:00 Kinshara: forgot to copy lol
2014-07-08 13:00 Kinshara: 01:47:022 (1,2) -
2014-07-08 13:00 Kinshara: breaks flow
2014-07-08 13:00 pishifat: yeah supposed to do that :P
2014-07-08 13:01 Kinshara: eh
2014-07-08 13:01 Kinshara: why do you want to break flow?
2014-07-08 13:01 pishifat: that part of the song breaks flow
2014-07-08 13:01 Kinshara: or well
2014-07-08 13:01 Kinshara: i guess it's okay
2014-07-08 13:01 Kinshara: yea
2014-07-08 13:01 Kinshara: that part of the song is different
2014-07-08 13:01 Kinshara: it's okay to break flow to emphasize certain part of a sang
2014-07-08 13:02 pishifat: again, on insane, flow break is way more... umm...
2014-07-08 13:02 pishifat: interesting :P
2014-07-08 13:02 Kinshara: you might have to remap
2014-07-08 13:02 Kinshara: *song
2014-07-08 13:02 Kinshara: why did i write sang
2014-07-08 13:02 Kinshara: oh god
2014-07-08 13:02 Kinshara: this is what 4 hours of sleep does to you e.e
2014-07-08 13:02 pishifat: lol...
2014-07-08 13:02 pishifat: also
2014-07-08 13:02 pishifat: "you might have to remap"
2014-07-08 13:02 Kinshara: 01:54:815 (2,3,1) - i like this pattern
2014-07-08 13:02 pishifat: what referring to
2014-07-08 13:03 Kinshara: the insane
2014-07-08 13:03 pishifat: lol
2014-07-08 13:03 pishifat: k maybe it's not that bad :P
2014-07-08 13:03 Kinshara: okay
2014-07-08 13:03 pishifat: and you like the dick pattern
2014-07-08 13:03 pishifat: marvelous
2014-07-08 13:03 Kinshara: lol
2014-07-08 13:03 Kinshara: yea
2014-07-08 13:03 Kinshara: i do e.e
2014-07-08 13:03 Kinshara: fite me
2014-07-08 13:04 Kinshara: okay i am done with hard
2014-07-08 13:04 pishifat: i can't say it's bad either
2014-07-08 13:04 Kinshara: what was the part
2014-07-08 13:04 Kinshara: i should have mentioned btw?
2014-07-08 13:04 pishifat: oh yeah
2014-07-08 13:04 pishifat: you didn't
2014-07-08 13:04 Kinshara: can you copy paste
2014-07-08 13:04 pishifat: 00:40:437 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
2014-07-08 13:04 Kinshara: let me see if it's a big problem
2014-07-08 13:05 pishifat: just the single taps
2014-07-08 13:05 Kinshara: oh that
2014-07-08 13:05 Kinshara: well i thought you were going for stream effect
2014-07-08 13:05 pishifat: yeah
2014-07-08 13:05 pishifat: it's not necessarily a problem but i expected you to point it out :P
2014-07-08 13:06 Kinshara: well not a problem in my book
2014-07-08 13:06 Kinshara: streams
2014-07-08 13:06 Kinshara: lot of players can singletap
2014-07-08 13:06 Kinshara: :p
2014-07-08 13:06 pishifat: you have a good book
2014-07-08 13:06 Kinshara: but
2014-07-08 13:06 Kinshara: i will suggest
2014-07-08 13:06 Kinshara: you kind of restructure it in a way
2014-07-08 13:07 Kinshara: doesn't look so appealing
2014-07-08 13:07 Kinshara: and slightly breaks flow imo
2014-07-08 13:07 pishifat: i'll do a slider to stream thingy then
2014-07-08 13:07 pishifat: would hopefully look better
2014-07-08 13:07 Kinshara: you can try that
2014-07-08 13:08 Kinshara: ok onto insane
2014-07-08 13:08 pishifat: this may be a struggle
2014-07-08 13:08 pishifat: since i dont know if you can play it :P
2014-07-08 13:08 Kinshara: you want me to test play after?
2014-07-08 13:08 pishifat: if you think you can do it sure
2014-07-08 13:10 Kinshara: well i'll say one thing
2014-07-08 13:10 Kinshara: that isn't unrankable
2014-07-08 13:10 Kinshara: it might be difficult to play for some
2014-07-08 13:10 pishifat: of course i know that hard songs are rankable lol
2014-07-08 13:11 pishifat: i'm saying it may be hard to mod if you cant' play it though
2014-07-08 13:11 Kinshara: yea that's true
2014-07-08 13:12 Kinshara: 00:10:775 (2,3,4) -
2014-07-08 13:12 Kinshara: i have always wanted to try this
2014-07-08 13:12 Kinshara: and i always forget e.e
2014-07-08 13:13 pishifat: triangles are hot
2014-07-08 13:13 Kinshara: sexy pattern
2014-07-08 13:13 Kinshara: like my calculus teacher used to say
2014-07-08 13:13 Kinshara: math is sexy \(^.^)/
2014-07-08 13:14 pishifat: i may have to kill your calculus teacher
2014-07-08 13:14 Kinshara: dang she's 70 years old
2014-07-08 13:14 Kinshara: you want to kill an old lady? e.e
2014-07-08 13:14 pishifat: on normal/hard difficulties i had to do math to figure out the slider velocities
2014-07-08 13:14 pishifat: for every
2014-07-08 13:14 pishifat: single
2014-07-08 13:14 pishifat: timing point
2014-07-08 13:14 pishifat: yes i do
2014-07-08 13:15 Kinshara: that's what you get for picking such a song lol
2014-07-08 13:15 pishifat: yes
2014-07-08 13:15 pishifat: i've also got another song with a stupid amount of timing points that i mapped
2014-07-08 13:15 pishifat: still have not done math tho :|
2014-07-08 13:16 Kinshara: why do you like to sacrifice yourself to satan?
2014-07-08 13:16 Kinshara: seriously man map easier songs :p
2014-07-08 13:17 pishifat: seems lame to do that
2014-07-08 13:17 pishifat: "here is my TV size map that 20 other people have already made hurhur"
2014-07-08 13:17 pishifat: rather not
2014-07-08 13:17 Kinshara: well
2014-07-08 13:17 Kinshara: doesn't have to be a song others have mapped o:
2014-07-08 13:18 Kinshara: lot of songs have simpler rhythms that haven't been mapped o:
2014-07-08 13:18 pishifat: that was just for emphasis :P
2014-07-08 13:18 Kinshara: btw insane looks good so far
2014-07-08 13:18 pishifat: but yeah still, i'd rather map songs that are different than the usual jpop/rock fare
2014-07-08 13:19 pishifat: since tehre's already enough of that for years
2014-07-08 13:20 Kinshara: LOL
2014-07-08 13:21 Kinshara: okay insane
2014-07-08 13:21 Kinshara: seems fine
2014-07-08 13:21 Kinshara: btw
2014-07-08 13:21 Kinshara: i think 01:52:013 (4) - kiai should end here
2014-07-08 13:21 pishifat: end there
2014-07-08 13:22 pishifat: wat
2014-07-08 13:22 Kinshara: wait wtf
2014-07-08 13:22 Kinshara: 02:02:847 -
2014-07-08 13:22 Kinshara: here sorry
2014-07-08 13:23 Kinshara: set preview point here 01:53:016 -
2014-07-08 13:23 pishifat: i'll change the kiai
2014-07-08 13:23 Kinshara: no
2014-07-08 13:23 Kinshara: 01:52:528 - here
2014-07-08 13:23 Kinshara: preview point
2014-07-08 13:23 pishifat: preview point staying where it is though :P
2014-07-08 13:23 pishifat: everyone recognizes the beginning of the song

over 9000!11!!!!!1!!!!!1 Timing points
Yauxo
1,622 posts
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Yauxo
I dun even
pishifat
osu! Paragon
3,812 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
pishifat

Yauxo wrote:

I dun even
you will even. the gods of m4m have spoken
Smokeman
463 posts
Joined November 2012
Smokeman
Have a star you monster, I asked you if this was timable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7iHVQ5quB0 and now i want to do it

pishifat wrote:

sounds like it could be a live recording, meaning there isn't going to be a consistent bpm and there will be fluctuations caused by human error everywhere

timing it is not really practical
I dont care: 10 sec in, 2 hours spent i m doing just fine...

Edit: wtf can't give stars, didnt know this was this old Q_Q
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
Map the Roger Bobo or Gene Pokorny versions and ill be impressed ;)
melloe
271 posts
Joined February 2013
melloe
dude nice
hi-mei
784 posts
Joined June 2014
hi-mei
cool
Yoshimaro
539 posts
Joined January 2014
Yoshimaro
this map is impossible to play when you change it to Mania mode xD, so hard to read
Bearizm
1,213 posts
Joined October 2013
Bearizm
is that timing even right? -_ - _-___ - -- _ _
Bonsai
1,212 posts
Joined July 2011
Bonsai
do you perhaps need a few kudosu! ?
Spaghetti
1,118 posts
Joined August 2014
Spaghetti
is this happening
Aegle
11 posts
Joined June 2015
Aegle
Sick slider at the end bro

Really fun map
ZekeyHache
3,316 posts
Joined October 2009
ZekeyHache

Bonsai wrote:

do you perhaps need a few kudosu! ?
OMG BONSY! O.O
Spaghetti
1,118 posts
Joined August 2014
Spaghetti
MY EARS FU Ck
ac8129464363
1,566 posts
Joined October 2013
ac8129464363
i've never laughed so hard at a hitsound before
Dextersydney
67 posts
Joined February 2014
Dextersydney
talk about timing and you die
Bearizm
1,213 posts
Joined October 2013
Bearizm
of all the maps u want me to mod u give me the hardest ones lo kill me

Chloe's iNsAnE
  1. 01:16:197 (1) - is this NC necessary?
  2. 01:47:921 - fill in something here pls unless you have a solid reason to why u don't want to fill this in with a circle.
  3. 00:53:483 (4,1) - this is actually very difficult to anticipate since you haven't been using any 3/4 sliders and then suddenly there's this circle and a jump. Your choice to change it or not. this one at 01:28:009 (6,1) - is fine tho because the object following the 3/4 slider is ANOTHER slider so it's kind of fine to play.
  4. 01:22:818 (1,2) - same
  5. 01:22:818 (1,2) - me irl etc
  6. 01:41:953 (1) - space this out even further for the increase of pitch in violin?
  7. 00:55:287 (2) - make this into 2 circles to give 00:55:639 (1) - more impact?
  8. 00:59:759 (5) - 2 circles pls to stay consistent with 00:58:186 (4,5) - and 01:01:210 (4,5) - since these basically sound the same right?
  9. 01:37:509 (1,2) - violin is 1/2s, u have no reason to use a repeat here xd
  10. 02:02:125 (1) - From the depths of my mind
    Your face rises
    Angelic kindness, a halo of light
    Bringing me out from the depths of my hell.


    For approval

Hard
  1. 01:25:406 (1) - not making this a 1/1 would be nice r:3
  2. 01:29:368 (3) - w a s t e d. just make this one like 01:27:452 (2,3) - ? the slider end on a strong point makes me want to kill myself xd
  3. 02:02:125 (1) - thank you.

Normal
  1. 01:02:658 (2) - instead of making this one long slider that ends where it ends right tnow, why not make the rhythm go like this instead? (BTW THE SLIDER LANDED ON THE BLUE TICK AND THAT'S TOTALLY NOT INTENTIONAL LMFAO)
    SPOILER

FUCK I ACCIDENTALLY PRESSED POST LOL

:3 1 more >w< i'm a goof


2014-07-08 13:03 pishifat: and you like the dick pattern
2014-07-08 13:03 pishifat: marvelous
Last edited by Bearizm , edited 1 time in total.
Illyasviel
218 posts
Joined July 2013
Illyasviel
You should make the last slider a long slow one with star/flower/etc shape, it would fit better and more satisfying than the current spinner.
Rad-
595 posts
Joined June 2011
Rad-
Yo

Normal
00:11:773 (1) - Don't think this NC is necessary, just a small notice, to make it more consistent.
00:15:842 (1) - For me this would be better placed at x:124 y:88 to follow better with previous slider, which makes it easier to read and hit at the right time, also meaning 00:17:365 (1) - slider end has to be placed behind it.
**^ if above was fixed, 00:18:054 (2) - this slider should be rotated -15* to selection center, it would all look like this now: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4925684
****^Unless of course you just decide to blanket better this 00:18:718 (1) - to end of slider 00:18:054 (2)
00:26:647 (5) - Would be easier to hit this if you add a NC kinda like 00:27:449 (6,1) - to notice the change of rhythm.
00:38:740 (1) - This slider felt a bit long but because between 00:39:401 and 00:39:701 the timing is faster than the parts around it, just wanted to point this out, because it feels like some rhythm is being skipped there, nothing bad.
00:44:498 (1) - Give this a bit more space from the previous by placing slider start at x:236 and slider end at x:333 y:75 (if you can)
00:53:985 (3) - NC again
01:00:536 (4) - Give this slider more space? placing at x:412 y:88 should be good, it is due to the pauses on the song.
01:49:027 (2,3) - I would give these 2 sliders a new combo because the slider speed change is very noticeable
01:52:013 (5) - To me a better way to improve the distancing to the next slider would be to place this circle at x:444 y:248 to give time to prepare for rhythm change.

Hard
Change AR to 7.5 (Max 8), on a map like this it makes it easier to read patterns that have all these rhythm changes, even though its more reaction based, unstable rate gets improved alot for everyone that don't misclick for having too many objects on the screen that were planning ahead on when to time it right. CS3 also make approach circles occupy too much screen space.

01:07:159 (3) - Replace with 2 small sliders same size as 01:06:844 (2) because this slider felt a bit too long, Like this: http://puu.sh/oh9nc/11bfc01aa5.jpg as in for position, i guess something as simple as this but you can figure out a better placement http://puu.sh/oh9te/a171e77ef4.jpg adding higher speeds like in 01:08:250 (2,3,4) - would be cool as well but as it is fits good
While on this subject, add NC to 01:06:844 (2,2) - due to slider speed changes being more drastic than the following ones
01:44:020 (2,1) - Replace these 2 NCs because of slider speed of 1 is the same as 2 while the previous 01:43:320 (1) - is fairly slow.
01:45:792 (1) - Remove NC

That's it really for Hard, it's mostly nitpicking but that's the best i could find.

Insane
00:26:818 (1) - Remove NC as it follows same instrument as 00:26:647 (2) - so the combo becomes more consistent.
00:28:080 (1) - Same as before
**^ To add on this, you could alternaly make these two circles 00:26:647 (2,2) - have NC so sliders 00:26:130 (1,1) - are on its own, looks good and also makes the violin more noticeable from the change of tone.
01:03:330 (4) - NC?
01:28:009 (6,1) - Replace these 2 NCs to make it easier to read the previous circle, it caught me offguard that stacking and makes this now more consistent as to the rest of the map.
02:02:125 (1) - NO, remove that sound, remember this map? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4925970 there's a reason it got removed, earrapes are not allowed in osu.

Not much to say on this either, you're a really good mapper and i knew this would happen so i still tried my best at finding some things remotely noticeable.

Hope it helps!
6th
616 posts
Joined December 2014
6th
Hello, sorry if it doesn't help that much, your map is already pretty good

[Normal]
00:15:842 (1) - I suggest moving it sliiiiightly up to make it more intuitive to play
00:44:840 - hmm make a perfect square with that ?
01:45:484 - I'd make it clickable

[Hard]
00:15:842 (1) - Not that important but move it a bit to the left ? looks better imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4927993
01:07:791 - nazi but it overlaps
01:08:890 (4) - It requires more emphasize imo, what about placing circles instead ?
01:36:155 (1) - What about placing it at the "center" of 01:34:843 (1,2,3,4) - ?

[Insane]
00:45:152 (3) - I really think it'd flow better if you use CTRL+G here
My ears... ):
Shyotamaze
917 posts
Joined December 2014
Shyotamaze
oh god that ending :o
Arusamour
424 posts
Joined April 2014
Arusamour

Insane (4.13 stars, 389 notes)


  1. 00:01:874 (1) - I want to see more of these uncommon sliders.
  2. 00:54:311 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - patterns like this is really good. fits right into the music.
  3. 01:01:613 (1) - For more unique sounding parts like this, you should take advantage of the more "uncommon" sliders
  4. 01:09:711 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Again, really good. it's an ugly shape at the most, maybe you could makes some minor adjustments
  5. 01:18:138 (4) - i'd like to see something like http://i.imgur.com/LBQyDtN.jpg . the current one take sharper angles when everything else before and after it is smooth as f.
  6. 01:40:048 (3,4,5,1,2) - gets louder here, it would be cool if you could spread these out a little.
  7. 02:02:125 (1) - fuck you

"thanks mr rwby mapset coordinator" that line gave me the great depression. i cringed
pishifat
osu! Paragon
3,812 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
pishifat
madok
Chloe's iNsAnE


01:16:197 (1) - is this NC necessary? rip i thought it looked cool
01:47:921 - fill in something here pls unless you have a solid reason to why u don't want to fill this in with a circle. its the same reason why this is the only 1/1 slider in the whole map :( trying to make the broken sounding stuff stand out
00:53:483 (4,1) - this is actually very difficult to anticipate since you haven't been using any 3/4 sliders and then suddenly there's this circle and a jump. Your choice to change it or not. this one at 01:28:009 (6,1) - is fine tho because the object following the 3/4 slider is ANOTHER slider so it's kind of fine to play. it's a 3/8 slider not a 3/4 slider B) but ya making a slider after it would mean strong sound on tail and making 4 a circle would mean hard-to-interpret gap between 4 and 1 so 3/4 3/8 best option
01:22:818 (1,2) - same
01:22:818 (1,2) - me irl etc those are the saem timestamsp pls
01:41:953 (1) - space this out even further for the increase of pitch in violin? i did
00:55:287 (2) - make this into 2 circles to give 00:55:639 (1) - more impact? i would if timing weren't retarded. everyone would get 100 on the second circle lol
00:59:759 (5) - 2 circles pls to stay consistent with 00:58:186 (4,5) - and 01:01:210 (4,5) - since these basically sound the same right? 4 circles in a row nogood unless it's super intense
01:37:509 (1,2) - violin is 1/2s, u have no reason to use a repeat here xd its a transition :(((((((((((
02:02:125 (1) - From the depths of my mind
Your face rises
Angelic kindness, a halo of light
Bringing me out from the depths of my hell. how did that normal sampleset get there huh weird ????


For approval



Hard


01:25:406 (1) - not making this a 1/1 would be nice r:3 establishes bpm for scrubs after long break scrubs are bad
01:29:368 (3) - w a s t e d. just make this one like 01:27:452 (2,3) - ? the slider end on a strong point makes me want to kill myself xd i cant put a repeat through timing points ik how u feel
02:02:125 (1) - thank you. foxed!



Normal


01:02:658 (2) - instead of making this one long slider that ends where it ends right tnow, why not make the rhythm go like this instead? (BTW THE SLIDER LANDED ON THE BLUE TICK AND THAT'S TOTALLY NOT INTENTIONAL LMFAO) bpm too variable for scary things
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rad
Normal
00:11:773 (1) - Don't think this NC is necessary, just a small notice, to make it more consistent.tru
00:15:842 (1) - For me this would be better placed at x:124 y:88 to follow better with previous slider, which makes it easier to read and hit at the right time, also meaning 00:17:365 (1) - slider end has to be placed behind it. tru
**^ if above was fixed, 00:18:054 (2) - this slider should be rotated -15* to selection center, it would all look like this now: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4925684 visually i dont really like when head/tail are close to symmetrical like that im dumb
****^Unless of course you just decide to blanket better this 00:18:718 (1) - to end of slider 00:18:054 (2)
00:26:647 (5) - Would be easier to hit this if you add a NC kinda like 00:27:449 (6,1) - to notice the change of rhythm.yes
00:38:740 (1) - This slider felt a bit long but because between 00:39:401 and 00:39:701 the timing is faster than the parts around it, just wanted to point this out, because it feels like some rhythm is being skipped there, nothing bad. timing was too complex so i decided to just undermap it lolz
00:44:498 (1) - Give this a bit more space from the previous by placing slider start at x:236 and slider end at x:333 y:75 (if you can) o ke
00:53:985 (3) - NC again y es
01:00:536 (4) - Give this slider more space? placing at x:412 y:88 should be good, it is due to the pauses on the song. yes
01:49:027 (2,3) - I would give these 2 sliders a new combo because the slider speed change is very noticeable 4 one object combos in a row i dont think so lol
01:52:013 (5) - To me a better way to improve the distancing to the next slider would be to place this circle at x:444 y:248 to give time to prepare for rhythm change. ok


Hard
Change AR to 7.5 (Max 8), on a map like this it makes it easier to read patterns that have all these rhythm changes, even though its more reaction based, unstable rate gets improved alot for everyone that don't misclick for having too many objects on the screen that were planning ahead on when to time it right. CS3 also make approach circles occupy too much screen space. .5

01:07:159 (3) - Replace with 2 small sliders same size as 01:06:844 (2) because this slider felt a bit too long, Like this: http://puu.sh/oh9nc/11bfc01aa5.jpg as in for position, i guess something as simple as this but you can figure out a better placement http://puu.sh/oh9te/a171e77ef4.jpg adding higher speeds like in 01:08:250 (2,3,4) - would be cool as well but as it is fits good would rather leave the 1/2 spam to the more intense build up stuff with 01:08:250 (2) - . most hards use constant 1/2 throughout, but since im using less dense rhythms throughout, gotta make it denser where it needs to be zz
While on this subject, add NC to 01:06:844 (2,2) - due to slider speed changes being more drastic than the following ones
01:44:020 (2,1) - Replace these 2 NCs because of slider speed of 1 is the same as 2 while the previous 01:43:320 (1) - is fairly slow. rather just nc every 4 beats, spamming ncs based on speed of sliders would mean a lot of hard to interpret stuff
01:45:792 (1) - Remove NC

That's it really for Hard, it's mostly nitpicking but that's the best i could find.


Insane
00:26:818 (1) - Remove NC as it follows same instrument as 00:26:647 (2) - so the combo becomes more consistent.
00:28:080 (1) - Same as before
**^ To add on this, you could alternaly make these two circles 00:26:647 (2,2) - have NC so sliders 00:26:130 (1,1) - are on its own, looks good and also makes the violin more noticeable from the change of tone. seems more intuitive for me to have new combos on white ticks when using lots of 1/2 circles, since the song is still emphasizing downbeats while the jumps start on the previous red tick id k
01:03:330 (4) - NC? probably
01:28:009 (6,1) - Replace these 2 NCs to make it easier to read the previous circle, it caught me offguard that stacking and makes this now more consistent as to the rest of the map. rip downbeats on the starts of measures
02:02:125 (1) - NO, remove that sound, remember this map? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4925970 there's a reason it got removed, earrapes are not allowed in osu. its just a prank bro
.

6
Hello, sorry if it doesn't help that much, your map is already pretty good


Normal
00:15:842 (1) - I suggest moving it sliiiiightly up to make it more intuitive to play yes
00:44:840 - hmm make a perfect square with that ? gotta have larger spacing from 3 to 4 tho
01:45:484 - I'd make it clickable dont really see why :(


Hard
00:15:842 (1) - Not that important but move it a bit to the left ? looks better imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4927993 gotta keep it further cuz of timing being retarded lol
01:07:791 - nazi but it overlaps tru
01:08:890 (4) - It requires more emphasize imo, what about placing circles instead ? would make sense if 4->1 wasn't some weird gap timing wise again this song is evil
01:36:155 (1) - What about placing it at the "center" of 01:34:843 (1,2,3,4) - ? yes


Insane
00:45:152 (3) - I really think it'd flow better if you use CTRL+G here if i were going for circular flow ya
My ears... ): G

boob
Insane (4.13 stars, 389 notes)

00:01:874 (1) - I want to see more of these uncommon sliders. [stolen]
00:54:311 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - patterns like this is really good. fits right into the music. yeeeeeeee
01:01:613 (1) - For more unique sounding parts like this, you should take advantage of the more "uncommon" sliders yeeeeeeeeeeeees
01:09:711 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Again, really good. it's an ugly shape at the most, maybe you could makes some minor adjustments >pishifat
>expecting good looking map
impossible
01:18:138 (4) - i'd like to see something like http://i.imgur.com/LBQyDtN.jpg . the current one take sharper angles when everything else before and after it is smooth as f. ur thing makes 3->4 sharp while mine is 4->1 :( having sharpness on the downbeat > some unimportant beat
01:40:048 (3,4,5,1,2) - gets louder here, it would be cool if you could spread these out a little. spread
02:02:125 (1) - fuck you ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ?????
Arusamour
424 posts
Joined April 2014
Arusamour
02:02:125 (1) - fuck you ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ?????
lol you fixed it
pishifat
osu! Paragon
3,812 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
pishifat
??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ???????? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ? ?? ?? ???? ?????
Nathan
2,161 posts
Joined August 2014
Nathan

pishifat wrote:

someone rank pls
irc
19:27 *sukiNathan is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/392107 Torleif Thedeen - Suite No. 1 BWV 1007: Prelude I [Insane]]
19:27 sukiNathan: 01:03:330 (1,2,3) - 
19:27 sukiNathan: looks like you spaced this out a bit for the pattern but i think
19:27 sukiNathan: stacking them makes the bpm change a bit more easy to comprehend
19:27 sukiNathan: since you can see the differences in approach circles a bit more
19:27 pishifat: mk
19:31 *sukiNathan is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/943085 Torleif Thedeen - Suite No. 1 BWV 1007: Prelude I [Normal]]
19:31 sukiNathan: 00:44:498 (1) - unsnapped
19:52 sukiNathan: ok update
19:52 pishifat: o wait
19:52 pishifat: the death hitsound
19:52 pishifat: forgot
19:52 sukiNathan: LOL
19:53 pishifat: got rid of it but it was still in the folder
19:53 sukiNathan: so
19:53 sukiNathan: how many people have you killed with that hitsound
19:54 pishifat: enough people for it to be mentioned in over half the posts on the second page
19:54 pishifat: and upd a t e d
20:02 sukiNathan: 00:38:019 (4,1) - head overlap seems iffy
20:02 sukiNathan: in normal diff
20:03 sukiNathan: every other overlap is with a tail so
20:04 pishifat: fix d
20:04 sukiNathan: ok that's it
20:04 sukiNathan: update
20:04 pishifat: is
fieryrage
osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II
1,404 posts
Joined November 2013
fieryrage
im gay and will mod this later nathan
Giralda
1,008 posts
Joined August 2012
Giralda
holy bach cello suite 1 ><
Sonnyc
7,761 posts
Joined June 2008
Sonnyc
[Normal]
  1. 00:38:740 (1) - End of the slider in unsnapped! You'll want to use the following code.
    34,331,38740,6,0,B|132:296|132:296|216:310,1,186,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    316,352,39701,1,8,0:0:0:0:
Normal
• Useless green line(s) over red (no SV changes):
00:04:025 {4025} ms
00:33:440 {33440} ms
00:53:798 {53798} ms

• Concurent volume value for red-green line(s):
00:20:587 {20587} ms
00:38:019 {38019} ms
00:55:287 {55287} ms

• Inherit (green) timing line is unsnapped:
00:07:355 {7355}
00:40:978 {40978}
00:53:704 {53704}
Hard
• Useless green line(s) over red (no SV changes):
00:04:025 {4025} ms
00:33:440 {33440} ms
00:53:798 {53798} ms

• Concurent volume value for red-green line(s):
00:20:587 {20587} ms
00:38:019 {38019} ms
00:55:287 {55287} ms

• Inherit (green) timing line is unsnapped:
00:53:704 {53704}
Insane
• Useless green line(s) over red (no SV changes):
00:04:025 {4025} ms
00:16:346 {16346} ms
00:17:754 {17754} ms
00:33:440 {33440} ms
00:35:244 {35244} ms
00:36:044 {36044} ms
00:44:498 {44498} ms
00:53:798 {53798} ms
01:30:883 {90883} ms

• Concurent volume value for red-green line(s):
00:20:587 {20587} ms
00:38:019 {38019} ms
00:55:287 {55287} ms

• Inherit (green) timing line is unsnapped:
00:53:704 {53704}
You'll want to get rid of these modding assistant issue.
pishifat
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rip bonsai
Lanturn
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Metaderpa.

http://www.bis.se/index.php?op=album&aID=BIS-CD-803-04

^official publisher.

Title: Suite Nr.1 G-Dur, BWV 1007 I. Prélude

maybe this'll work? I don't know. anyways, the No.1 1 should be Nr.1 and you need to add G-Dur.

Assuming this is the right album.. I'm not much of a classical person to know what all this mumbo jumbo is.

"Suite Nr. 1 G-Dur, BWV 1007"
also appears on http://www.nordicartistsmanagement.com/ ... deen-cello which seems to be an official site as well.
Sonnyc
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Nominated.
pishifat
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pishifat
using that title now thx lanturn

im pretty sure the old metadata was from a youtube video lol
Akiyama Mizuki
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Akiyama Mizuki
Wow this music, hype
Bonsai
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Bonsai
Edit: WAIT WHAT NO DON'T TAKE THE ICON FOR THIS MAP AWAY FROM ME NOOOOO I WANNA NOMINATE THIS PLSPLSPLS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I didn't shoot those stars for fun ;_; nvm, disagreement on a rhythm section : (


Insane (and general timing/NCing stuff)
  1. 00:01:874 (1,2) - 00:09:096 (1,2) - 00:55:639 (1,2) - 01:19:833 (1,2) - Those are the only times in the whole map that you stack on non-downbeats which seems rather weird to me bc you stack on downbeats almost all the time which kinda represents the slowdowns at that point but then those four aren't slowdowns so yeah, seems weird to me
Now the rest for this diff will be pure NC-modding, bc at some places your NCing completely derails from the song's signature, but before mentioning those points I just wanna say that the few places where you NC'd twice per measure seem rather inconsistent to me most of the times and that I personally dislike them very much, and sometimes they make detecting the song's signature much much harder, like 00:53:798 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -, but yeah, I'll just mention the 'big derailments' now and hope that maybe you wanna remove those few double-NC-parts after all eheheheh
  1. ok actually starting with BPM-stuff, 01:24:866 should not be half-BPM bc the note here is actually 1/8 instead of 1/16, as seen here (the very first note)
  2. Now the puush from the previous point already shows a really fun thing: 01:26:441 should actually be half-bpm, because the signature stays 4/4 throughout the whole piece (and doesn't have thrown-in notes like 01:27:789 (5,6) currently suggests) and thus the next upbeat is at 01:26:946 making 01:26:778 (1,4) offbeat-sliders - Just try deleting 01:27:789 (5) and move 01:26:778 (1,2,3,4) by +1/2 and you'll see how the actual emphasis should be. And exactly the same thing happens with the next two measures too, so yeah.
    Maybe not delaying the NCing would be better too to make detecting the actualy signature easier, I mean your delayed NCs seem cool but yeah, you don't do that at many other places (or any other places at all?) so dunno about this one
  3. Here's a fun fact: theoretically, from here on everything is off by half a measure too, in the sheets the downbeats are still at 01:32:815 - 01:34:188 - etc which admittedly would look extremely stupid here, and the way you NCd it seems way better, but the thing that concerns me is that you switch to the theoretically correct comboing at 01:38:144 and that makes no sense at all to me, because when you started with the better-sounding one it seems random to jump back to the other one there. My suggestion would be to stay with your NCing until 01:41:953 where you NC to switch to the correct one (there already is a NC there but that's bc you doubled the amount of NCs here but I am basing my suggestion on a constant NC-density so yeah, I hope this makes sense lol)
    And I actually find it misleading that you make 01:47:330 (1) 1/1 either way bc that doesn't fit your NCing nor the theoretically correct one and makes the NCing look rather random imo : \
  4. I hate this cellist so much, it would again be basic 4/4 from 01:47:022 on but that sounds stupid the way he emphasizes stuff.. So yeah keep it but 01:51:328 (1,2) completely throws me off bc that's neither the correct one nor does it fit with your previous NCing, swapping those and removing the one at 01:52:013 (1) would fit much better imo
ok I think that's it, I didn't look whether all the other BPM-multipliers are correct but yeah, here's the sheets in case you wanna check yourself xd

Hard
  1. 00:15:842 (1,2) - seems a bit much spacing imo
    01:02:658 (3,1) too actually, bc the player should already realize that there's a massive slowdown with low spacing at 01:02:171 (2,3) so (3,1) having so much spacing again seems weird to me
  2. 00:53:985 (1,2) - why not swap NC to stay with the signature?
  3. yeah again the stuff from Insane from 01:24:585 on ofc, but in this diff it seems especially clear to me that the switch at 01:37:509 (3,1) is weird bc 01:38:778 (3,3,3) are still so emphazised in the song so keeping your NCing until the NC at 01:41:318 and then switching with the NC at 01:41:953 just seems waay better to me
  4. The reverse at 01:46:407 (2) leading to 01:48:101 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5) being offbeat-sliders is triggering me pretty hard here lol, and you forgot a NC somewhere in the 5-note-combo anyways


Normal
  1. Even though you 5%'d them, some of the cool additional sliderticks are still rather clearly audible imo, so I'd suggest to just add a sampleset with silent slidertick.wav to use in those places ?
  2. 00:17:365 (1) - 00:53:985 (1) - omg those NC-spams how dare you !!!
  3. 00:26:647 (1,2) - NC-swap here and removing the one at 00:27:922 (1) would be cool for signature-reasons again
  4. 01:13:570 (3,1) - suggesting NC-swap here bc 01:13:570 sounds far more like a major major downbeat than 01:15:018 for me but dunno
  5. stuff from 01:24:585 again, also with the switch and all that again (holy fuck it just seems constantly messed up until the Kiai in this diff lol)
for some reason my Windows Media Player can't play your sliderslide although it can play those from other maps, dunno what causes that but I just wanted to mention it in case that indicates a bad .wav or w/e

that piano-hitsound you had in the original version was rad, I miss that
(I actually miss the more recently removed hitsound too xd still better than Fort-hitsounding imo tbh)

I'd gladly
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Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
So for the title, it's more of an issue of who is considered the most valid publisher.

To get the most accurate description, you'd have to probably look as close as you can from the original publication of Bach's music when it was produced during the Baroque era.

Because as we can see

http://www.amazon.com/Bach-JS-Arranged- ... B0049BOT8K
http://www.amazon.com/Bach-Suites-Violo ... B004CESIU4

Titling differs through the publisher, especially in terms of language.

The closest surviving document we have for Bach's original transcriptions is the edition created by his wife Anna.

Here's a pdf to that edition:
http://javanese.imslp.info/files/imglnk ... cripts.pdf

It's also a bitch because in the classical world, the cello suites are pretty much common knowledge enough to where people will just know it if you say "cello suite", so people traditionally don't put stuff like the BWV or anything lol. I was looking at the programs from work to try to figure this out and they both literally only said "Cello Suite No. 3 " lol.

I feel like the previous title you had would be a lot more effective, as the current title is more of a swedish translation, which I guess makes sense for the artist, but still. If you really wanted to go for the authentic language of Bach, you should probably find a german title and use that.

Like I know a lot of what I'm saying is inconclusive, but like I'm mostly just throwing out shit so all aspects of how this title should work are explored before getting this ranked, getting it DQed, and causing a shitstorm for completely avoidable reassons.
Bonsai
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Reditum wrote:

you should probably find a german title and use that.
It's already as german as it can get though ^^ (german wikipedia-entry)
Since Lanturn actually found the publisher of the album of this very recording, I think it's best to just follow that (although I find the "I." a bit unnecessary but w/e I guess)
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SPOILER
Edit: WAIT WHAT NO DON'T TAKE THE ICON FOR THIS MAP AWAY FROM ME NOOOOO I WANNA NOMINATE THIS PLSPLSPLS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I didn't shoot those stars for fun ;_;


Insane (and general timing/NCing stuff)

00:01:874 (1,2) - 00:09:096 (1,2) - 00:55:639 (1,2) - 01:19:833 (1,2) - Those are the only times in the whole map that you stack on non-downbeats which seems rather weird to me bc you stack on downbeats almost all the time which kinda represents the slowdowns at that point but then those four aren't slowdowns so yeah, seems weird to me they're indicating screwy time between objects that i found hard to interpret without staring at approach circles with stacks:( dont make me explain all of them :(

Now the rest for this diff will be pure NC-modding, bc at some places your NCing completely derails from the song's signature, but before mentioning those points I just wanna say that the few places where you NC'd twice per measure seem rather inconsistent to me most of the times and that I personally dislike them very much, and sometimes they make detecting the song's signature much much harder, like 00:53:798 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -, nc aesthetics are realbut yeah, I'll just mention the 'big derailments' now and hope that maybe you wanna remove those few double-NC-parts after all eheheheh

ok actually starting with BPM-stuff, 01:24:866 should not be half-BPM bc the note here is actually 1/8 instead of 1/16, as seen here (the very first note) doubled
Now the puush from the previous point already shows a really fun thing: 01:26:441 should actually be half-bpm, because the signature stays 4/4 throughout the whole piece (and doesn't have thrown-in notes like 01:27:789 (5,6) currently suggests) and thus the next upbeat is at 01:26:946 making 01:26:778 (1,4) offbeat-sliders - Just try deleting 01:27:789 (5) and move 01:26:778 (1,2,3,4) by +1/2 and you'll see how the actual emphasis should be. And exactly the same thing happens with the next two measures too, so yeah. halved. if ur telling me to change the rhythm tho thats not happening sounds way too awkward lol
Maybe not delaying the NCing would be better too to make detecting the actualy signature easier, I mean your delayed NCs seem cool but yeah, you don't do that at many other places (or any other places at all?) so dunno about this one
Here's a fun fact: theoretically, from here on everything is off by half a measure too, in the sheets the downbeats are still at 01:32:815 - 01:34:188 - etc which admittedly would look extremely stupid here, and the way you NCd it seems way better, but the thing that concerns me is that you switch to the theoretically correct comboing at 01:38:144 and that makes no sense at all to me, because when you started with the better-sounding one it seems random to jump back to the other one there. My suggestion would be to stay with your NCing until 01:41:953 where you NC to switch to the correct one (there already is a NC there but that's bc you doubled the amount of NCs here but I am basing my suggestion on a constant NC-density so yeah, I hope this makes sense lol) changed them z
And I actually find it misleading that you make 01:47:330 (1) 1/1 either way bc that doesn't fit your NCing nor the theoretically correct one and makes the NCing look rather random imo : \ but not this one smd
I hate this cellist so much, it would again be basic 4/4 from 01:47:022 on but that sounds stupid the way he emphasizes stuff.. So yeah keep it but 01:51:328 (1,2) completely throws me off bc that's neither the correct one nor does it fit with your previous NCing, swapping those and removing the one at 01:52:013 (1) would fit much better imo i tried

ok I think that's it, I didn't look whether all the other BPM-multipliers are correct but yeah, here's the sheets in case you wanna check yourself xd ha no ty 2014 me knows what hes doing def

Hard

00:15:842 (1,2) - seems a bit much spacing imo y
01:02:658 (3,1) too actually, bc the player should already realize that there's a massive slowdown with low spacing at 01:02:171 (2,3) so (3,1) having so much spacing again seems weird to me y
00:53:985 (1,2) - why not swap NC to stay with the signature? cuz increase in intensity >
yeah again the stuff from Insane from 01:24:585 on ofc, but in this diff it seems especially clear to me that the switch at 01:37:509 (3,1) is weird bc 01:38:778 (3,3,3) are still so emphazised in the song so keeping your NCing until the NC at 01:41:318 and then switching with the NC at 01:41:953 just seems waay better to me y
The reverse at 01:46:407 (2) leading to 01:48:101 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5) being offbeat-sliders is triggering me pretty hard here lol, and you forgot a NC somewhere in the 5-note-combo anyways patternprioritytbh



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Even though you 5%'d them, some of the cool additional sliderticks are still rather clearly audible imo, so I'd suggest to just add a sampleset with silent slidertick.wav to use in those places ? last time i did that a qat said stop lol. i dont care much about it so ill just stick to the rankable 5%
00:17:365 (1) - 00:53:985 (1) - omg those NC-spams how dare you !!! i like the 1/2 one actually
00:26:647 (1,2) - NC-swap here and removing the one at 00:27:922 (1) would be cool for signature-reasons again rather have ncs on both specialsliders :( time signature notgoal
01:13:570 (3,1) - suggesting NC-swap here bc 01:13:570 sounds far more like a major major downbeat than 01:15:018 for me but dunno nc everything
stuff from 01:24:585 again, also with the switch and all that again (holy fuck it just seems constantly messed up until the Kiai in this diff lol) you can blame only yourself for what ive done


for some reason my Windows Media Player can't play your sliderslide although it can play those from other maps, dunno what causes that but I just wanted to mention it in case that indicates a bad .wav or w/e o it is. oldness

that piano-hitsound you had in the original version was rad, I miss that sounded too weird with fade in on first notelol
(I actually miss the more recently removed hitsound too xd still better than Fort-hitsounding imo tbh) xzxzxzxz

I'd gladly
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people say that making good maps is hard.... lmao they obviously don't know about metadata checks. Harder than mapping.
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Bearizm wrote:

people say that making good maps is hard.... lmao they obviously don't know about metadata checks. Harder than mapping.
lol
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sukiNathan wrote:

dark abyss of the human soul
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You really need to fix the timing. Did you even listen to the music while mapping this?
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F1r3tar wrote:

You really need to fix the timing. Did you even listen to the music while mapping this?
this was for the reverse mapping contest so he mapped with no mp3
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