I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Everything above 3h is dangerous

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Everything above 3h is dangerous

not really, if you work in IT you're at least required to have like 8 hours of screentime, outside of whatever you do home, and IT isn't particullary known to be dangerous, hand injuries because of typing are more common than eye ones. Also, while there are some studies that show that children with high ammount of screentimes can face problems like sleeping problems, however, there aren't really any studies that show that this is the same for adults, it's not a particullary well researched field so don't really go around saying stuff like that

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Everything above 3h is dangerous

not really, if you work in IT you're at least required to have like 8 hours of screentime, outside of whatever you do home, and IT isn't particullary known to be dangerous, hand injuries because of typing are more common than eye ones. Also, while there are some studies that show that children with high ammount of screentimes can face problems like sleeping problems, however, there aren't really any studies that show that this is the same for adults, it's not a particullary well researched field so don't really go around saying stuff like that

No. Even adults can have problems like children, because in the long term, there can be complications such as desocialization due to isolation, concentration problems, sleep disorders, and many more. All of these can increase the risk of depression in the future

Karmine wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Everything above 3h is dangerous

not really, if you work in IT you're at least required to have like 8 hours of screentime, outside of whatever you do home, and IT isn't particullary known to be dangerous, hand injuries because of typing are more common than eye ones. Also, while there are some studies that show that children with high ammount of screentimes can face problems like sleeping problems, however, there aren't really any studies that show that this is the same for adults, it's not a particullary well researched field so don't really go around saying stuff like that

No. Even adults can have problems like children, because in the long term, there can be complications such as desocialization due to isolation, concentration problems, sleep disorders, and many more. All of these can increase the risk of depression in the future

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Karmine wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Everything above 3h is dangerous

not really, if you work in IT you're at least required to have like 8 hours of screentime, outside of whatever you do home, and IT isn't particullary known to be dangerous, hand injuries because of typing are more common than eye ones. Also, while there are some studies that show that children with high ammount of screentimes can face problems like sleeping problems, however, there aren't really any studies that show that this is the same for adults, it's not a particullary well researched field so don't really go around saying stuff like that

No. Even adults can have problems like children, because in the long term, there can be complications such as desocialization due to isolation, concentration problems, sleep disorders, and many more. All of these can increase the risk of depression in the future

You're so funny Karmine 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

https://gaeconseil.fr/les-ecrans-quels-sont-les-risques-dune-consommation-excessive/#:~:text=Les%20personnes%20ayant%20un%20usage,la%20sant%C3%A9%20mentale%20du%20consommateur.

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Karmine wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Everything above 3h is dangerous

not really, if you work in IT you're at least required to have like 8 hours of screentime, outside of whatever you do home, and IT isn't particullary known to be dangerous, hand injuries because of typing are more common than eye ones. Also, while there are some studies that show that children with high ammount of screentimes can face problems like sleeping problems, however, there aren't really any studies that show that this is the same for adults, it's not a particullary well researched field so don't really go around saying stuff like that

No. Even adults can have problems like children, because in the long term, there can be complications such as desocialization due to isolation, concentration problems, sleep disorders, and many more. All of these can increase the risk of depression in the future

You're so funny Karmine 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

https://gaeconseil.fr/les-ecrans-quels-sont-les-risques-dune-consommation-excessive/#:~:text=Les%20personnes%20ayant%20un%20usage,la%20sant%C3%A9%20mentale%20du%20consommateur.

that is about ADDICTION to online services NOT to the effect of the screen on their retinas

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Karmine wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Everything above 3h is dangerous

not really, if you work in IT you're at least required to have like 8 hours of screentime, outside of whatever you do home, and IT isn't particullary known to be dangerous, hand injuries because of typing are more common than eye ones. Also, while there are some studies that show that children with high ammount of screentimes can face problems like sleeping problems, however, there aren't really any studies that show that this is the same for adults, it's not a particullary well researched field so don't really go around saying stuff like that

No. Even adults can have problems like children, because in the long term, there can be complications such as desocialization due to isolation, concentration problems, sleep disorders, and many more. All of these can increase the risk of depression in the future

You're so funny Karmine 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

https://gaeconseil.fr/les-ecrans-quels-sont-les-risques-dune-consommation-excessive/#:~:text=Les%20personnes%20ayant%20un%20usage,la%20sant%C3%A9%20mentale%20du%20consommateur.

that is about ADDICTION to online services NOT to the effect of the screen on their retinas

????? Did you read the article

Karmine wrote:

So your only source is a company whose business is selling training courses about addictions and doesn't cite any other source itself?

Dementedduck wrote:

Karmine wrote:

So your only source is a company whose business is selling training courses about addictions and doesn't cite any other source itself?

from the gae council no less
smh

Patatitta wrote:

the first point on health risk is LITERALLY about bad posture



another point is "lack of physical exercise", which isn't an effect of actually having like 3h of screentime, but it becoming an addiction and refusing to do anything else



and again, that 3 hour figure you mentioned is the time spent on social media daily where addiction may become a reality

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

the first point on health risk is LITERALLY about bad posture



another point is "lack of physical exercise", which isn't an effect of actually having like 3h of screentime, but it becoming an addiction and refusing to do anything else



and again, that 3 hour figure you mentioned is the time spent on social media daily where addiction may become a reality

This article talks about the consequences of excessive screen use in general, adults and children, which is the case of randomguy13580 with his 18h screen time daily. Statistics show that this problem affects children and adults alike, so I don't understand why you're saying "however, there aren't really any studies that show that this is the same for adults" in the first place. I'm pretty sure you were talking about IT only, but I don't work in IT to say if spending 8 hours behind a screen is unhealthy or not

The 3 hours I mentioned were in fact the time spend on social networks, which concerns about 5 billion people if you Google it. It's dangerous because most people don't see the problems directly and end up with a lot of issues in the future

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

the first point on health risk is LITERALLY about bad posture



another point is "lack of physical exercise", which isn't an effect of actually having like 3h of screentime, but it becoming an addiction and refusing to do anything else



and again, that 3 hour figure you mentioned is the time spent on social media daily where addiction may become a reality

This article talks about the consequences of excessive screen use in general, adults and children, which is the case of randomguy13580 with his 18h screen time daily. Statistics show that this problem affects children and adults alike, so I don't understand why you're saying "however, there aren't really any studies that show that this is the same for adults" in the first place. I'm pretty sure you were talking about IT only, but I don't work in IT to say if spending 8 hours behind a screen is unhealthy or not

The 3 hours I mentioned were in fact the time spend on social networks, which concerns about 5 billion people if you Google it. It's dangerous because most people don't see the problems directly and end up with a lot of issues in the future

You're shifting the discussion, You claimed 3 hours of screentime by itself was dangerous, I said it wasn't, I claimed that study wasn't about the actual effects of looking at a screen, you claimed it was, I responded and now the conversation was never about that in the first place

My point is that the actual ACT of looking at a screen isn't dangeorus by itself, it's how you use it that it's dangeorus

also, I really doubt you really looked at that 3 hours figure before posting it, pretty sure you kinda pulled it off your ass first and then just happened that the study mentioned 3 hours in one segment

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

the first point on health risk is LITERALLY about bad posture



another point is "lack of physical exercise", which isn't an effect of actually having like 3h of screentime, but it becoming an addiction and refusing to do anything else



and again, that 3 hour figure you mentioned is the time spent on social media daily where addiction may become a reality

This article talks about the consequences of excessive screen use in general, adults and children, which is the case of randomguy13580 with his 18h screen time daily. Statistics show that this problem affects children and adults alike, so I don't understand why you're saying "however, there aren't really any studies that show that this is the same for adults" in the first place. I'm pretty sure you were talking about IT only, but I don't work in IT to say if spending 8 hours behind a screen is unhealthy or not

The 3 hours I mentioned were in fact the time spend on social networks, which concerns about 5 billion people if you Google it. It's dangerous because most people don't see the problems directly and end up with a lot of issues in the future

You're shifting the discussion, You claimed 3 hours of screentime by itself was dangerous, I said it wasn't, I claimed that study wasn't about the actual effects of looking at a screen, you claimed it was, I responded and now the conversation was never about that in the first place

My point is that the actual ACT of looking at a screen isn't dangeorus by itself, it's how you use it that it's dangeorus

also, I really doubt you really looked at that 3 hours figure before posting it, pretty sure you kinda pulled it off your ass first and then just happened that the study mentioned 3 hours in one segment

"You claimed 3 hours of screentime by itself was dangerous, I said it wasn't" No. I said everything above 3h is dangerous, meaning that beyond these hours spend behind a screen daily, most of the time for trivial reasons, the effects start to lean more on the negative side than the positive one. It's not just looking at a screen for 3h then nothing else that will cause issues

"I claimed that study wasn't about the actual effects of looking at a screen, you claimed it was" Because it is. To quote those I didn't mention, too much screentime can lead to headaches, eye strain, lack of physical activity, a feeling of loss when no screen, and many more. I don't know if you wanted more detailed results about it, but my goal was to prove that there are side effects even for adults as well, which you didn't seem to confirm before

"I responded and now the conversation was never about that in the first place" You responded by raising a few points in the article and I replied by stating the purpose of this article. I don't know why you're saying I'm "shifting the discussion" knowing that all I did was maintain my position

Btw, this is some crazy statement to say I "pulled it off my ass", otherwise I wouldn't have said anything about it. Do you really think I didn't do research before?

Lyawi wrote:

Feel free to discuss but don't be douches.

Jangsoodlor wrote:

But you're addressing the question of whether "Is it ok to have 18h screen time daily?" You're literally red herring here. Yes you do research, but it just does not address the point of this topic.

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Jangsoodlor wrote:

But you're addressing the question of whether "Is it ok to have 18h screen time daily?" You're literally red herring here. Yes you do research, but it just does not address the point of this topic.

The point of this thread is just if it's ok to have 18h screen time daily and I responded by saying everything above 3h is dangerous, implying that this is not okay to have 18h screen time daily. I did research for patatitta to prove why this is not okay, so saying I didn't address the point of this topic is quite paradoxical knowing that I literally responded in the first place

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Jangsoodlor wrote:

But you're addressing the question of whether "Is it ok to have 18h screen time daily?" You're literally red herring here. Yes you do research, but it just does not address the point of this topic.

The point of this thread is just if it's ok to have 18h screen time daily and I responded by saying everything above 3h is dangerous, implying that this is not okay to have 18h screen time daily. I did research for patatitta to prove why this is not okay, so saying I didn't address the point of this topic is quite paradoxical knowing that I literally responded in the first place

I mean, the problem with 18 hours is that they were neglecting sleep, even if they had 12 it would be ok.

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Jangsoodlor wrote:

But you're addressing the question of whether "Is it ok to have 18h screen time daily?" You're literally red herring here. Yes you do research, but it just does not address the point of this topic.

The point of this thread is just if it's ok to have 18h screen time daily and I responded by saying everything above 3h is dangerous, implying that this is not okay to have 18h screen time daily. I did research for patatitta to prove why this is not okay, so saying I didn't address the point of this topic is quite paradoxical knowing that I literally responded in the first place

I mean, the problem with 18 hours is that they were neglecting sleep, even if they had 12 it would be ok.

What really counts is what will come in the future if the person does nothing about their screen time. The real consequence would be that people, especially children and teens, starts to get addicted over time creating a snowball effect, meaning that they can spend from an hour or two in front of a screen to 18h or even bigger

The solution for that would be to limit screen time so you don't think about it afterwards

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Jangsoodlor wrote:

But you're addressing the question of whether "Is it ok to have 18h screen time daily?" You're literally red herring here. Yes you do research, but it just does not address the point of this topic.

The point of this thread is just if it's ok to have 18h screen time daily and I responded by saying everything above 3h is dangerous, implying that this is not okay to have 18h screen time daily. I did research for patatitta to prove why this is not okay, so saying I didn't address the point of this topic is quite paradoxical knowing that I literally responded in the first place

I mean, the problem with 18 hours is that they were neglecting sleep, even if they had 12 it would be ok.

What really counts is what will come in the future if the person does nothing about their screen time. The real consequence would be that people, especially children and teens, starts to get addicted over time creating a snowball effect, meaning that they can spend from an hour or two in front of a screen to 18h or even bigger

The solution for that would be to limit screen time so you don't think about it afterwards

I mean, let's say I were to smoke, would I teach my children to smoke?, fuck no, if playing mmos or whatever ends up being an addiciton, that's not something you really teach other people to really follow, again, my point is that what is dangerous is neglecting other activities, it's the addiction, NOT the raw hours of screentime

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Jangsoodlor wrote:

But you're addressing the question of whether "Is it ok to have 18h screen time daily?" You're literally red herring here. Yes you do research, but it just does not address the point of this topic.

The point of this thread is just if it's ok to have 18h screen time daily and I responded by saying everything above 3h is dangerous, implying that this is not okay to have 18h screen time daily. I did research for patatitta to prove why this is not okay, so saying I didn't address the point of this topic is quite paradoxical knowing that I literally responded in the first place

I mean, the problem with 18 hours is that they were neglecting sleep, even if they had 12 it would be ok.

What really counts is what will come in the future if the person does nothing about their screen time. The real consequence would be that people, especially children and teens, starts to get addicted over time creating a snowball effect, meaning that they can spend from an hour or two in front of a screen to 18h or even bigger

The solution for that would be to limit screen time so you don't think about it afterwards

I mean, let's say I were to smoke, would I teach my children to smoke?, fuck no, if playing mmos or whatever ends up being an addiciton, that's not something you really teach other people to really follow, again, my point is that what is dangerous is neglecting other activities, it's the addiction, NOT the raw hours of screentime

Wdym by that? Smoking and spending your time behind a screen are two completely different things, so this analogy is false

I also don't understand your reasoning with mmos. What's stopping you to teach other people to play games if their screen time is limited? They won't become addicts if they set themselves boundaries, or if you teach them to set themselves boundaries if they're your kids

And of course, the less screen time you have, the more time you have for other activities. You won't become addicted if you think less about screens

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Jangsoodlor wrote:

But you're addressing the question of whether "Is it ok to have 18h screen time daily?" You're literally red herring here. Yes you do research, but it just does not address the point of this topic.

The point of this thread is just if it's ok to have 18h screen time daily and I responded by saying everything above 3h is dangerous, implying that this is not okay to have 18h screen time daily. I did research for patatitta to prove why this is not okay, so saying I didn't address the point of this topic is quite paradoxical knowing that I literally responded in the first place

I mean, the problem with 18 hours is that they were neglecting sleep, even if they had 12 it would be ok.

What really counts is what will come in the future if the person does nothing about their screen time. The real consequence would be that people, especially children and teens, starts to get addicted over time creating a snowball effect, meaning that they can spend from an hour or two in front of a screen to 18h or even bigger

The solution for that would be to limit screen time so you don't think about it afterwards

I mean, let's say I were to smoke, would I teach my children to smoke?, fuck no, if playing mmos or whatever ends up being an addiciton, that's not something you really teach other people to really follow, again, my point is that what is dangerous is neglecting other activities, it's the addiction, NOT the raw hours of screentime

Wdym by that? Smoking and spending your time behind a screen are two completely different things, so this analogy is false

I also don't understand your reasoning with mmos. What's stopping you to teach other people to play games if their screen time is limited? They won't become addicts if they set themselves boundaries, or if you teach them to set themselves boundaries if they're your kids

And of course, the less screen time you have, the more time you have for other activities. You won't become addicted if you think less about screens

I will repeat this once again

The problem is NOT the actual screens, it's the addiction to the content of those screens, the actual time spent looking at those screens is irrelevant if you're not neglecting your other activities, you can spend the rest of your day looking at a screen if you want if you're still sleeping properly and going outside, claiming that any more than 3 hour of screentime is dangerous and that you're not only putting yourself in harm, but children too is a fucking insane take

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Jangsoodlor wrote:

But you're addressing the question of whether "Is it ok to have 18h screen time daily?" You're literally red herring here. Yes you do research, but it just does not address the point of this topic.

The point of this thread is just if it's ok to have 18h screen time daily and I responded by saying everything above 3h is dangerous, implying that this is not okay to have 18h screen time daily. I did research for patatitta to prove why this is not okay, so saying I didn't address the point of this topic is quite paradoxical knowing that I literally responded in the first place

I mean, the problem with 18 hours is that they were neglecting sleep, even if they had 12 it would be ok.

What really counts is what will come in the future if the person does nothing about their screen time. The real consequence would be that people, especially children and teens, starts to get addicted over time creating a snowball effect, meaning that they can spend from an hour or two in front of a screen to 18h or even bigger

The solution for that would be to limit screen time so you don't think about it afterwards

I mean, let's say I were to smoke, would I teach my children to smoke?, fuck no, if playing mmos or whatever ends up being an addiciton, that's not something you really teach other people to really follow, again, my point is that what is dangerous is neglecting other activities, it's the addiction, NOT the raw hours of screentime

Wdym by that? Smoking and spending your time behind a screen are two completely different things, so this analogy is false

I also don't understand your reasoning with mmos. What's stopping you to teach other people to play games if their screen time is limited? They won't become addicts if they set themselves boundaries, or if you teach them to set themselves boundaries if they're your kids

And of course, the less screen time you have, the more time you have for other activities. You won't become addicted if you think less about screens

I will repeat this once again

The problem is NOT the actual screens, it's the addiction to the content of those screens, the actual time spent looking at those screens is irrelevant if you're not neglecting your other activities, you can spend the rest of your day looking at a screen if you want if you're still sleeping properly and going outside, claiming that any more than 3 hour of screentime is dangerous and that you're not only putting yourself in harm, but children too is a fucking insane take

So for you it's 100% ok if you spend 12 hours or more behind your screen every day as long as you're "sleeping properly and going outside"?

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Jangsoodlor wrote:

But you're addressing the question of whether "Is it ok to have 18h screen time daily?" You're literally red herring here. Yes you do research, but it just does not address the point of this topic.

The point of this thread is just if it's ok to have 18h screen time daily and I responded by saying everything above 3h is dangerous, implying that this is not okay to have 18h screen time daily. I did research for patatitta to prove why this is not okay, so saying I didn't address the point of this topic is quite paradoxical knowing that I literally responded in the first place

I mean, the problem with 18 hours is that they were neglecting sleep, even if they had 12 it would be ok.

What really counts is what will come in the future if the person does nothing about their screen time. The real consequence would be that people, especially children and teens, starts to get addicted over time creating a snowball effect, meaning that they can spend from an hour or two in front of a screen to 18h or even bigger

The solution for that would be to limit screen time so you don't think about it afterwards

I mean, let's say I were to smoke, would I teach my children to smoke?, fuck no, if playing mmos or whatever ends up being an addiciton, that's not something you really teach other people to really follow, again, my point is that what is dangerous is neglecting other activities, it's the addiction, NOT the raw hours of screentime

Wdym by that? Smoking and spending your time behind a screen are two completely different things, so this analogy is false

I also don't understand your reasoning with mmos. What's stopping you to teach other people to play games if their screen time is limited? They won't become addicts if they set themselves boundaries, or if you teach them to set themselves boundaries if they're your kids

And of course, the less screen time you have, the more time you have for other activities. You won't become addicted if you think less about screens

I will repeat this once again

The problem is NOT the actual screens, it's the addiction to the content of those screens, the actual time spent looking at those screens is irrelevant if you're not neglecting your other activities, you can spend the rest of your day looking at a screen if you want if you're still sleeping properly and going outside, claiming that any more than 3 hour of screentime is dangerous and that you're not only putting yourself in harm, but children too is a fucking insane take

So for you it's 100% ok if you spend 12 hours or more behind your screen every day as long as you're "sleeping properly and going outside"?

yes, because there is no real harm on the actual act of looking at the screens. As I say, people working in IT can have over 10 hours of screentime daily and they see no real harm, if anything hand injuries.

Winnyace wrote:

However way you look at it, prolonged exposure to a screen imposes a risk. It can lead to eye related issues, poor posture and a general sedentary lifestyle. It can also lead to other conditions. This depends, however, on a case by case basis of one's mental and physical health, alongside their profession and what that individual does in order to remain healthy. Imposing a general guideline or restriction does not solve the main issue one might have, however.

stevennnn wrote:

On god you need to pick up a book

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

stevennnn wrote:

On god you need to pick up a book

E-books are the best

stevennnn wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

stevennnn wrote:

On god you need to pick up a book

E-books are the best

Omgggg so true. Reading is sm easier when you can adjust text size, spacing, font, etc

Super Saiyan wrote:

wtf