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Shuichiro Fukuhiro - Poni Puni Song(Vocaloid Ver.) [Taiko]

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Topic Starter
verto
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2015. április 6. at 17:08:12

Artist: Shuichiro Fukuhiro
Title: Poni Puni Song(Vocaloid Ver.)
Source: げんしけん二代目
Tags: Genshiken Nidaime Hatsune Miku
BPM: 120
Filesize: 3696kb
Play Time: 01:51
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2,07 stars, 209 notes)
  2. Inner Oni (3,37 stars, 531 notes)
  3. Kantan (1,09 stars, 135 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (2,53 stars, 300 notes)
  5. Oni (3,19 stars, 419 notes)
Download: Shuichiro Fukuhiro - Poni Puni Song(Vocaloid Ver.)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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SPOILER
Hanjamon
Mod from #modreqs :3
I'm not good at mod, so i will try xD

Well..


[Kantan]
Hmmm
00:48:286 (17) - Remove this slider... I think is a bit hard for a Kantan....
00:48:286 (17) - a Don here, 00:49:536 (18) - and Katsu here http://puu.sh/5y5o4.jpg

[Futsuu]
Looks fine, only change this
01:50:536 (23) - k

[Muzukashi]
00:27:411 (37) - k
01:29:661 (45) - k
01:39:411 (3) - d

[Oni]
00:35:661 (83) - k
00:39:411 (17,18) - k d
Topic Starter
verto
[Kantan]
Hmmm
00:48:286 (17) - Remove this slider... I think is a bit hard for a Kantan....

Actually, I don't know how to put less drumroll into that slider, because it's too fast for the beatmap as whole. If you could help me with that I'd really appreciate it.

00:48:286 (17) - a Don here, 00:49:536 (18) - and Katsu here http://puu.sh/5y5o4.jpg

^

[Futsuu]
Looks fine, only change this
01:50:536 (23) - k

I rather changed the note before it d

[Muzukashi]
00:27:411 (37) - k

Feels fine for me, other than difficulty reasons I wouldn't remove it and I think this diff isn't all that hard for a muzukashii

01:29:661 (45) - k
^

01:39:411 (3) - d
^

[Oni]
00:35:661 (83) - k

Done

00:39:411 (17,18) - k d
Done
AyaseEli
Very glad to see this song and i really love it! Its been so nice to have a same favored mapper!
Come on dude! Why don't make it ranked! Such a great song,let more people play it! And thank u for ur hard work! Great job!
Topic Starter
verto

pp34as7 wrote:

Very glad to see this song and i really love it! Its been so nice to have a same favored mapper!
Come on dude! Why don't make it ranked! Such a great song,let more people play it! And thank u for ur hard work! Great job!
Actually I'm waiting for another guest diff and Krushny's Hard needs heavy modding, so it's not complete yet, but I do plan on ranking it eventually.
AyaseEli

_verto_ wrote:

pp34as7 wrote:

Very glad to see this song and i really love it! Its been so nice to have a same favored mapper!
Come on dude! Why don't make it ranked! Such a great song,let more people play it! And thank u for ur hard work! Great job!
Actually I'm waiting for another guest diff and Krushny's Hard needs heavy modding, so it's not complete yet, but I do plan on ranking it eventually.
Appreciate your working and look forward to it! I‘m a rookie but i may try to learn some mapping next year while i’ll have some free time.
Evening
From Zenx' Modding Quehue o/

d = Don
k = Kat
D = Big Don
K = Big Kat
">" = Change to

Timing Check

Offset

No Problems

BPM

No Problems

Oni
Hit-Sound Check/Addition of Notes

00:16:286 (2,3,4,5,6) - There seem to be lacking in kats in this rhythm here, since you used quite a lot of kats for the next rhythm , I suggest to put a kat on Note 3
00:28:286 (49,50,51,52) - Same goes for this as well, it feels like there's too much dons here, I suggest a kat on Note 52
00:37:786 (8) - d > k | I suggest a kat here since in this rhythm, there is a lot of kats and using 3 dons in succession sort of ruins the kat rhythm
00:39:786 (19) - k > K | Big kat here for the emphasis in the music
00:47:786 (21) - ^
01:03:786 (1) - ^
01:19:786 (7) - d > K | ^
01:26:661 (41,43) - d > k | Seems there's too much kats in succession, I suggest kats on these 2 notes.
01:44:286 (21) - k > K | Big kat for emphasis in the music
01:51:786 (54) - ^

Very neat kat rhythm and placement on notes, awesome catchy beat created, I like it o/
You just need to keep the density of kats consistent to be make the kat rhythm smoother

Kiai Time Check

No Problems

General

Ranking Criteria Check

No Problems

AiMod

No Problems

Title Check

No Problems

[Muzu]

00:16:661 (3) - Same as Inner Oni | The kat rhythm seems to lack a kat here, making it very weird to the ears
00:55:786 (45,46) - k,d > K,d OR k,D OR K,D | There seems to be a need for emphasis in the music here, I suggest to make at least one of them a finish
01:03:786 (1) - k > K | Needs emphasis according to music
01:44:286 (19) - ^
01:51:786 (44) - ^

Very smooth kat rhythm for Muzu also

[Futsuu]
01:27:786 (21,22) - k,d > K,d OR k,D OR K,D | There seems to be a need for emphasis in the music here, I suggest to make at least one of them a finish

[Kantan]
01:03:786 (1) - k > K | Music suggests a finish, thus a big kat
01:27:786 (27) - ^

Great mapset here, I like the kat rhythm o/

Good luck!
Topic Starter
verto
Kantan
SPOILER
01:03:786 (1) - k > K | Music suggests a finish, thus a big kat
Done

01:27:786 (27) - ^
Done


Futsuu
SPOILER
01:27:786 (21,22) - k,d > K,d OR k,D OR K,D | There seems to be a need for emphasis in the music here, I suggest to make at least one of them a finish
Made it K d


Muzukashii
SPOILER
00:16:661 (3) - Same as Inner Oni | The kat rhythm seems to lack a kat here, making it very weird to the ears
Made it a kat

00:55:786 (45,46) - k,d > K,d OR k,D OR K,D | There seems to be a need for emphasis in the music here, I suggest to make at least one of them a finish
Made both a finish

01:03:786 (1) - k > K | Needs emphasis according to music
Done

01:44:286 (19) - ^
Done

01:51:786 (44) - ^
Done

Oni
SPOILER
00:16:286 (2,3,4,5,6) - There seem to be lacking in kats in this rhythm here, since you used quite a lot of kats for the next rhythm , I suggest to put a kat on Note 3
Done, also made the 5th note kat as well.

00:28:286 (49,50,51,52) - Same goes for this as well, it feels like there's too much dons here, I suggest a kat on Note 52
Done

00:37:786 (8) - d > k | I suggest a kat here since in this rhythm, there is a lot of kats and using 3 dons in succession sort of ruins the kat rhythm
Done

00:39:786 (19) - k > K | Big kat here for the emphasis in the music
Done

00:47:786 (21) - ^
Done

01:19:786 (7) - d > K | ^
Done

01:26:661 (41,43) - d > k | Seems there's too much kats in succession, I suggest kats on these 2 notes.
Done

01:44:286 (21) - k > K | Big kat for emphasis in the music
Done, however I made 01:43:786 (18) - a don and a finish because I felt 18 needed a bigger emphaty than 21. Also removed 01:44:161 (20) -

01:51:786 (54) - ^
Done

Very constructive mod, it's rare that I agree on everything with the modder. Thanks a lot!
hibarirailwayz
via my mod queue

[General]
  1. 00:00:286 - You must add red lone and, remove 00:15:786 - . The beat is wrong.
  2. You shold use music at the first=00:15:786 - . There are music!
  3. 01:04:203 - remove green line and, 01:04:286 - add green line and kiai time.
  4. 01:36:203 - ^ and finish kiai time

    [Kantan]

    1. 00:28:286 (17) - remove finish. same as 00:20:286 (7) - .
    2. 00:31:786 (22) - add finish and, 00:31:786 (22) - remove finish. Cymbal sound 00:31:786 - .
    3. 00:36:286 (1) - remove finish. there are not strong sound and no reason you use "K".
    4. 00:39:786 (6) - add finish?
    5. 01:04:286 - I can't understand what you'd like to use the sound of music in kiai time.
      my sample map of kiai time...
      http://puu.sh/6jAA2
    6. far from rank, I think...
    [Futsuu]

    1. 00:16:286 - and 00:24:286 - is similar part. so you should use same or bit different arrangement of notes.
    2. 00:23:786 (14) - add finish?
    3. 00:32:286 (30) - remove finish. need not I think.
    4. 00:36:286 (1) - ^
    5. 01:03:786 - add finish
    6. to write is difficult for me. you want to know, Please call me in game..
    [Muzukashii]

    1. dificulty balance between Futsuu and Muzukashii is wrong. Muzukashii is difficult..
    2. to write is difficult for me. you want to know, Please call me in game..
    3. you dont have unity of arrangement. If I pick up, this map will be not your map..
    [Oni]

    1. you should consider finish position
    2. I can't find what you'd like to use the sound of music almost of part.
    3. I leave sample Oni map
      http://puu.sh/6jDhk
you need my detailed mod, please call me~ 8-)
Fight!!~
Topic Starter
verto
General
SPOILER
00:00:286 - You must add red lone and, remove 00:15:786 - . The beat is wrong.
You shold use music at the first=00:15:786 - . There are music!


Changed the offset to 00:00:286 and mapped that part.

01:04:203 - remove green line and, 01:04:286 - add green line and kiai time.
Must've been left from the offset change. Done

01:36:203 - ^ and finish kiai time
Done


Kantan

SPOILER
00:28:286 (17) - remove finish. same as 00:20:286 (7) - .
I'd rather have both as a finish, since they are downbeats and kind of accented


00:31:786 (22) - add finish and, 00:31:786 (22) - remove finish. Cymbal sound 00:31:786 - .

Not sure if you meant it this way, but made 00:31:786 (22) - a don and added a finish.

00:36:286 (1) - remove finish. there are not strong sound and no reason you use "K".
I feel like if it's not a K the pattern just blends in like there is no downbeat.

00:39:786 (6) - add finish?
Added + because I didn't remove the K from the previous downbeat I also added a finish on 00:40:286 (7) -

01:04:286 - I can't understand what you'd like to use the sound of music in kiai time.
my sample map of kiai time...

http://puu.sh/6jAA2

Welp, I'm not going to copy paste your version, but I'll make some changes according to your sample. I don't want
to change too much in it because then it'll be too different from the other difficulties.
If there is still something you find unacceptable in it PM me or just post it in another comment. For instance that
1/2 pattern might be pushing the limits of Kantan
However I disliked the way of the 1/2 d d d pattern which was mapped on vocal.

Futsuu

SPOILER
00:16:286 - and 00:24:286 - is similar part. so you should use same or bit different arrangement of notes.
They are now somewheat similar.

00:23:786 (14) - add finish?
Done

00:32:286 (30) - remove finish. need not I think.
I'd like to keep it, the vocal starts here and it's also a downbeat, so it's sort of powerful. However added a don right next to it.

00:36:286 (1) - ^
Done

01:03:786 - add finish
Done

Also made some twerks to the kiai time because of the changes in the kantan


Muzukashii

SPOILER
I think it's pretty easy, the duplets could be annoying but if I made it even more easier it'd be just a harder futsuu.


Oni

SPOILER
I feel you overmapped it a bit at the kiai time, but I see what do you mean. I made changes accordingly, however I
feel it turned out a bit off, I have a copy of the old version and I might make smaller changes in that instead if I
get too much negative feedback about the new version.
Topic Starter
verto
Made some SV changes in the Oni diff.
CSLM
hello!!
here is my mod:
I will use the same abbreviations of lZenxl, i mean to:

d = Don
k = Kat
D = Big Don
K = Big Kat
">" = Change to
and:
d or k or D of K: delete d or k or D or K

oni:

Oni
1: 00:10:286 - d >k
2: move the d 00:18:786 to 00:19:036
3: 00:35:286: - d
4: move the d 00:35:536 to 00:35:411 and the k 00:35:786 to 00:35:661
5: 00:43:911: - add a k
6: move the k 00:45:286 to 00:45:911
7: 00:56:161: - add a d
8: move the d 00:57:286 to 00:57:536
9: 00:57:161: - add a k
10: 00:57:411: - add a d
11: 00:57:536: - d >k
12: 01:03:286: - ^
13: 01:34:536: - ^
14: 01:34:661: - add a d
muzu:

Muzukashii
1: 00:03:036: - add a d
2: 00:03:536: - ^
3: 00:15:036: - ^
4: 00:35:786: - k
5: 00:58:036: - add a d
6: 00:58:536: - d
7: 01:18:286: - add a d
8: 01:27:286: - d >k
9: 01:27:536: - k >d
10: 01:27:661: - ^
11: 01:29:536: - k
12: 01:35:286: - d >k
13: 01:35:786: - k >d
14: 01:40:036: - add a d
15: 01:48:036: - ^

Futsuu:

Futsuu
1: 00:31:286: - d >k
2: 00:47:286: - ^
3: move the d 00:47:036 to 00:47:536
4: 00:48:286: - extend to 00:49:786
5: 00:55:786: - k >K
6: 01:07:286: - k >d
7: 01:07:536: - ^
8: 01:23:786: - d >k
9: 01:41:286: - k >d
10: 01:45:286: - d >k

kantan:

Kantan
1: - 00:48:286: extend to 00:49:786


the song is catchy, I like it :D
Topic Starter
verto
Hey, thanks for the mod! Sorry for the late reply, but I couldn't reply because... circumstances chat mods

Kantan
SPOILER
"1: - 00:48:286extend to 00:49:786"
No, I want that slider on that "ah~"

Futsuu
SPOILER
"1: 00:31:286- d >k"
Made 00:30:786 (26) - instead the kat

"2: 00:47:286- ^"
I see no reason to do that

"3: move the d 00:47:036 to 00:47:536"
Done

"5: 00:55:786- k >K"
Done

"6: 01:07:286- k >d"
Done

"7: 01:07:536- ^"
I think it's fine as it is

"8: 01:23:786- d >k"
Done

"9: 01:41:286- k >d"
Doesn't feel good, I want all three of them as one sound, because it is in the music

"10: 01:45:286- d >k"
^


Muzukashii
SPOILER
"1: 00:03:036- add a d"
If I can I like to avoid mapping on the vocal, so no

"2: 00:03:536- ^"
^

"3: 00:15:036- ^"
^

"4: 00:35:786- delete k"
Noooo why would you do that D:

"5: 00:58:036- add a d"
There is nothing there

"6: 00:58:536- delete d"
Done

"7: 01:18:286- add a d"
I don't even know why there was nothing there, done

"8: 01:27:286- d >k"
No, there would be too many kat there

"9: 01:27:536- k >d"
No, that's a same sound triplet even in the music

"10: 01:27:661- ^"
^

"11: 01:29:536- delete k"
Done

"12: 01:35:286- d >k"
No, added a don here instead 01:35:661 (70) -

"13: 01:35:786- k >d"
Can't do that now because ^

"14: 01:40:036- add a d"
Done

"15: 01:48:036- ^"
Done

Oni
SPOILER
"1: 00:10:286 - d >k"
No

"2: move the d 00:18:786 to 00:19:036"
No, but instead put a don here 00:19:286 (14) -

"3: 00:35:286- delete d"
Absolutely not

"4: move the d 00:35:536 to 00:35:411 and the k 00:35:786 to 00:35:661"
No, it feels off

"5: 00:43:911- add a k"
Added don instead

"6: move the k 00:45:286 to 00:45:911"
I really like the kats at that area the way they are.

"7: 00:56:161- add a d"
Done

"8: move the d 00:57:286 to 00:57:536"
Put a kat there

"9: 00:57:161- add a k"
No

"10: 00:57:411- add a d"
No

"11: 00:57:536- d >k"
Well it's a kat now already because 8.

"12: 01:03:286- ^"
No

"13: 01:34:536- ^"
But that's a kat already?

"14: 01:34:661- add a d"
Done, also done some tweaks at the end
-Arp-
So here's my first mod \:D/
enjoy.
btw "->" means "change to"
I generally tried to "fix" sections that sounded weird
hope i can help, and you find something useful in here

Kantan:
Kantan
00:24:286 (12) - move to 00:23:786 - and d->D
00:27:286 - move to 00:27:786 - and finish
00:28:286 - remove finish?
00:30:286 (19,20,21,22) - how about a spinner instead of notes?
00:30:286 - 00:40:286 - i didn't like this section how about this http://puu.sh/6Tak8.jpg
and 00:39:786 (9,10) - both notes finsih
00:47:786 - K?
00:55:786 - K?
01:06:292 - k?
01:08:286 - d?
01:08:786 - remove
01:09:786 - remove?
01:10:786 - k?
01:11:536 - remove?
00:19:786 - d
01:32:286 - finish?
01:32:786 - remove
01:33:786 - remove?
01:34:786 - remove?
01:44:286 - finish?
01:50:286 (20,21,22,23) - how about a spinner?

Futsuu:
Futsuu
00:27:786 - d?
00:30:286 (25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - spinner too?
00:32:286 (31,32,33,34,35) - (kdkdd)->(kdd d) pattern instead?
00:41:297 - k->d and
00:41:786 - k
00:43:786 - d->k
00:46:286 (21,22,23,24,25) - spinner?
01:07:786 - remove finish
01:10:536 - k?
01:15:286 - d?
01:18:286 - d->k?
01:23:772 - k->D?
01:31:786 - d->k or D?
01:39:286 - changing it to http://puu.sh/6TbqD.jpg or http://puu.sh/6Tbsl.jpg
01:43:286 - same here one of the upper patterns?
01:47:286 - here too :<
01:50:786 - d
01:51:036 - d->k
01:51:286 - k->d

Muzukashii:

Muzukashii
00:27:286 (36,37,38) - kkk->ddd?
01:01:161 - move to 01:01:286 - and delete (01:01:411 and 01:01:536)
01:20:286 - until 01:22:036 make them 1/2 spaced i mean to put every 2nd note 1/4 beat further
Oni:
Oni
00:27:286 (45,46,47) - kdk->dkd?
00:29:036 (54,55,56) - kdd->ddk?
00:35:036 (81,82,83,84,85) -> http://puu.sh/6RX7y.jpg ?
00:24:411 - 00:24:786 - 00:25:786 - adding k and 00:25:661 - k->d
00:58:786 - d->k?
01:04:411 - remove
01:05:411 - remove
Topic Starter
verto
Thanks for the mod Harper, I made my first mod for my taiko-senpai as well, guess it's a tradition now :D

Kantan:
Kantan
00:24:286 (12) - move to 00:23:786 - and d->D
No, the notes are evenly distributed this way
00:27:286 - move to 00:27:786 - and finish
No, it'd break the flow
00:28:286 - remove finish?
Done
00:30:286 (19,20,21,22) - how about a spinner instead of notes?
I HATE SPINNERS WHY DO THEY EVEN EXIST no
00:30:286 - 00:40:286 - i didn't like this section how about this http://puu.sh/6Tak8.jpg
Too hard for kantan
and 00:39:786 (9,10) - both notes finsih
They are both finish already, I don't get it...
00:47:786 - K?
Put a D instead
00:55:786 - K?
No
01:06:292 - k?
No
01:08:286 - d?
It'd d already
01:08:786 - remove
No
01:09:786 - remove?
No
01:10:786 - k?
No, too hard for kantan
01:11:536 - remove?
No
00:19:786 - d
No, also try to write your mod chronologically
01:32:286 - finish?
No
01:32:786 - remove
No
01:33:786 - remove?
No
01:34:786 - remove?
No, but made it a kat instead
01:44:286 - finish?
No
01:50:286 (20,21,22,23) - how about a spinner?
No

Futsuu:
Futsuu
00:27:786 - d?
No
00:30:286 (25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - spinner too?
No
00:32:286 (31,32,33,34,35) - (kdkdd)->(kdd d) pattern instead?
Done
00:41:297 - k->d and
Done
00:41:786 - k
No
00:43:786 - d->k
No
00:46:286 (21,22,23,24,25) - spinner?
No
01:07:786 - remove finish
Done
01:10:536 - k?
I see no reason to
01:15:286 - d?
No
01:18:286 - d->k?
made 01:18:786 (2) - k instead
01:23:772 - k->D?
No
01:31:786 - d->k or D?
Made 01:32:286 (32) - k instead
01:39:286 - changing it to http://puu.sh/6TbqD.jpg or http://puu.sh/6Tbsl.jpg
Made it instead like this http://puu.sh/6Z8xe.jpg
01:43:286 - same here one of the upper patterns?
No, changed it a bit though
01:47:286 - here too :<
No, changed it though
01:50:786 - d
No
01:51:036 - d->k
Done
01:51:286 - k->d
No
Muzukashii:

Muzukashii
00:27:286 (36,37,38) - kkk->ddd?
it's kdk though. Made it dkd instead
01:01:161 - move to 01:01:286 - and delete (01:01:411 and 01:01:536)
Nope, but made some changes
01:20:286 - until 01:22:036 make them 1/2 spaced i mean to put every 2nd note 1/4 beat further
Fine, but put in some 1/4 triplets there as well

Oni:
Oni
00:27:286 (45,46,47) - kdk->dkd?
Okay
00:29:036 (54,55,56) - kdd->ddk?
No
00:35:036 (81,82,83,84,85) -> http://puu.sh/6RX7y.jpg ?
No
00:24:411 - 00:24:786 - 00:25:786 - adding k and 00:25:661 - k->d
No, though I don't really know what do you want to say
00:58:786 - d->k?
No, if anything that part needs more dons
01:04:411 - remove
No
01:05:411 - remove
No, oni shouldn't be this easy

Good luck with your mapping/modding career!
tetsutaro


[Peripheral]
:!: ぽにぷにそんぐ --> Ponipuni songu Song. Like, seriously how did you come up with "songu"
:!: Explain bg. Also move down to see more of the face

[Notechart]
:idea: Perceived Rating: 2★ Kantan / 7★ Futsuu (ref: Alborada del Gracioso) / 8★ Muzukashii (ref: MATSURI D/A) / 8★ Oni (ref: MATSURI D/A)
:arrow: Star for "No crappy Kantan": failed
:!: <Futsuu><Muzukashii> blatantly overmapped
:!: No prominent pattern scheme throughout, especially in <Kantan><Futsuu>. This plays like RNG shoot-em-up.
:!: <Muzukashii><Oni> 00:48:286 (27) - Drumroll ends do not replace legitimate notes because they are optional. Shorten and place note at original end.
:!: <Oni> Justify sofuran or remove.

Topic Starter
verto
[Peripheral]
:!: ぽにぷにそんぐ --> Ponipuni songu Song. Like, seriously how did you come up with "songu"
Done
:!: Explain bg. Also move down to see more of the face
The song is a Genshiken Nidaime OST and was usually played at awkward/troublesome scenes, most notably when Madarame realised he loves Kasukabe, hence the despairing Madarame BG

[Notechart]
:idea: Perceived Rating: 2★ Kantan / 7★ Futsuu (ref: Alborada del Gracioso) / 8★ Muzukashii (ref: MATSURI D/A) / 8★ Oni (ref: MATSURI D/A)
:arrow: Star for "No crappy Kantan": failed
:!: <Futsuu><Muzukashii> blatantly overmapped
Tried to make futsuu easier Basically I remapped it, but how is muzukashii overmapped? I realise there are lots of duplets in it which can make it harder than the average muzukashii, but even that is not against the ranking criteria as far as I know. Remapped some parts in muzukashii though.
:!: No prominent pattern scheme throughout, especially in <Kantan><Futsuu>. This plays like RNG shoot-em-up.
I hope I fixed it, should be repetitive enough now.
:!: <Muzukashii><Oni> 00:48:286 (27) - Drumroll ends do not replace legitimate notes because they are optional. Shorten and place note at original end.
Took out the drumroll and mapped that part properly on both difficulties.
:!: <Oni> Justify sofuran or remove.
The parts where the SV is slow are the parts that have less instruments playing, making that part sound slower. The speeded up single note was inspired by this map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/43728

Thanks for the mod!
Leorda
Hi there.....

[General]
* Remove "Ponipuni songu vocaloid" in tags. It's already mention at romanised title

[Kantan]
00:28:286 (18) - Big K?
00:48:286 (18) - Big D?

[Futsuu]
00:31:536 (28) - K?
00:43:786 (14) - ^
00:49:786 (27) - ^
01:05:786 (4) - ^
01:16:786 (25) - ^
01:24:786 (8) - ^

[Muzukashii]
00:24:036 - Add don here? It feels empty to me
00:32:286 (74) - Big D?
00:40:286 (18) - ^
00:45:786 (18) - K?
00:51:786 (39) - ^

[Oni]
00:49:786 (33) - K?
01:15:786 (33) - ^

I'm practicing to mod Taiko.... so go ahead if you disagree it
Topic Starter
verto
Well hello! :D

Leorda wrote:

Hi there.....

[General]
* Remove "Ponipuni songu vocaloid" in tags. It's already mention at romanised title
Done
[Kantan]
00:28:286 (18) - Big K?
00:48:286 (18) - Big D?
I took them out on an earlier mod, so no.

[Futsuu]
00:31:536 (28) - K?
00:31:786 (29) - is big note already and the previous sound isn't accented as much
00:43:786 (14) - ^
No
00:49:786 (27) - ^
No, but made it k d k instead
01:05:786 (4) - ^
No
01:16:786 (25) - ^
No
01:24:786 (8) - ^
No

[Muzukashii]
00:24:036 - Add don here? It feels empty to me
Last mod complained muzu is overmapped, also 1/1 breaks are a must in every diff as far as I know
00:32:286 (74) - Big D?
Done
00:40:286 (18) - ^
Done
00:45:786 (18) - K?
No
00:51:786 (39) - ^
k only, and did some other changes were the sounds are similar

[Oni]
00:49:786 (33) - K?
01:15:786 (33) - ^
I kind of remapped the oni, because it wasn't similar to muzu, so I don't remember if I applied these

I'm practicing to mod Taiko.... so go ahead if you disagree it
Thanks for the mod! :D
Mystyk
Hi, well one of my first taiko mods I guess so don't expect much :<

Kantan:
00:36:286 (1) - use small kat here, I think it fits better because there isn't any loud sound, just comapre it to this 00:39:786 (6) - and it could be also easier for players to play a small kat than a big kat
01:00:286 (32) - kat, I think it fits better because both the vocals + the piano in the background goes a bit higher

Futsuu:
00:36:286 (1) - use small don, same reason as the one I said on Kantan, there is no loud beat here, I know that a "new section" starts, but it's not loud enough to be emphasized
01:40:286 (6) - same as above ^ use small don, because there isn't anything loud that should be emphasized with a big don

Sorry, but it makes me mad that osu keeps crashing while I'm trying to testplay, so I can't really get myself to finish this mod, sorry :<
Topic Starter
verto

Mystyk wrote:

Hi, well one of my first taiko mods I guess so don't expect much :<

Kantan:
00:36:286 (1) - use small kat here, I think it fits better because there isn't any loud sound, just comapre it to this 00:39:786 (6) - and it could be also easier for players to play a small kat than a big kat
Done
01:00:286 (32) - kat, I think it fits better because both the vocals + the piano in the background goes a bit higher
I mapped on the snare there, no.

Futsuu:
00:36:286 (1) - use small don, same reason as the one I said on Kantan, there is no loud beat here, I know that a "new section" starts, but it's not loud enough to be emphasized
Done
01:40:286 (6) - same as above ^ use small don, because there isn't anything loud that should be emphasized with a big don
Done

Sorry, but it makes me mad that osu keeps crashing while I'm trying to testplay, so I can't really get myself to finish this mod, sorry :<
Thanks for your mod!
Nardoxyribonucleic
Hi, M4M from my queue.

[General]

The difficulty spread between Futsuu and Muzukashii is a bit great imo, consider reducing it by raising the difficulty of Futsuu slightly.

[Kantan]

As this is a Kantan, try to reduce slider velocity to 1.2 for beginners ?
00:20:286 (7) - remove finish ? The music is quiet there.
00:23:786 (12) - add finish ? The music is noticeably loud compared to 00:20:286 (7) -
00:48:286 (18) - add finish ? A stressed sound occurs here. Also, 2 finishes in a row could make the pattern consistent to 00:39:786 (6,7) and 00:31:786 (23,24) -
00:50:286 (20) - change to k ? It could fit the vocal better.
00:52:286 (22) - ^
00:56:286 (28) - add finish ? It could emphasize the vocal.
01:00:286 (32) - k can match the vocal, as it has the same pitch as 01:02:286 (35) - which you used K there.
01:12:286 (11) - It seems that you have missed finish here, as 01:28:286 (33) - also has finish.
01:18:786 (19) - k. It could follow the snare better. And you also used k at 01:08:786 (4) -
01:36:286 (2) - add finish and 01:40:286 (7) - remove finish ? The reason is similar to 00:20:286 (7) and 00:23:786 (12)

[Futsuu]

00:23:786 (13) - add finish as suggested in Kantan ? You did it at 00:32:286 (30) -
00:47:786 (23,24) - K K, to make it consistent to 00:31:786 (29,30) -
00:56:286 (38) - same as Kantan.
01:00:286 (42) - ^
01:19:036 (30) - k ? This could follow the high-pitched vocal better.
01:35:036 (1) - ^
01:43:786 (13) - K, similar to 00:31:786 (29,30) -

[Muzukashii]

00:36:286 (1) - remove finish ? A bit loud imo.
00:42:036 (4) - k here ? According to your pattern, you used k in most of the red lines like 00:40:536 (19) - 00:38:536 (11) and 00:38:036 (9)
00:46:536 (20) - k would follow the snare drum better.
00:50:536 (35,36) - swap notes ? To make it the same as 00:48:286 (27,28,29) - which flows in a way better.
00:54:036 (46) - k to follow the vocal ?
01:00:286 (62) - k would be better. (refer to Kantan)
01:03:286 (72) - k ? The pitch of the vocal keeps increasing starting from 01:02:786 (70) -
01:11:036 (9) - k ? Similar to 00:42:036 (4)
01:19:661 (11,12) - either remove 01:19:661 (11) - or remove finish of 01:19:786 (12) - It is not advised to use finish in 1/4 most of the time.
01:27:036 (9) - same as 01:11:036 (9)
01:35:661 (11,12) - same as 01:19:661 (11,12) -
01:36:286 (13) - add finish ? To make it consistent to 01:44:286 (21) -

[Oni]

00:04:286 (17) - remove finish ? I think it is a bit over-emphasized.
00:08:286 (34) - ^
00:12:286 (1) - ^
00:15:036 (13) - k for the high-pitched vocal ?
00:27:661 - add d, as the sound is identical to 00:27:536 (60) -
00:29:536 (69,70,71) - kdk would be better, regarding the cymbal and the snare.
00:41:786 (28) - k for both the vocal and the snare ?
00:47:661 (24,25) - either remove 24 or remove finish of 25. It is not advised to use finish in 1/4 most of the time.
01:01:786 (21) - add finish for the loud cymbal ?
01:03:286 (26) - K ? similar as Muzu
01:12:911 (18) - move to 01:12:661 - ?
01:15:411 - add k and 01:15:661 - add d ?
01:18:786 (2,3) - k k to follow the vocal better ?
01:19:661 (6,7) - similar to 00:47:661 (24,25) -
01:28:911 (18) - move to 01:28:661 - ?
01:31:411 - add k and 01:31:661 - add d ?
01:34:786 (2,3) - same as 01:18:786 (2,3)
01:35:661 (6,7) - similar to 00:47:661 (24,25) -

Good luck~ :D
Topic Starter
verto
Hi~

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hi, M4M from my queue.

[General]

The difficulty spread between Futsuu and Muzukashii is a bit great imo, consider reducing it by raising the difficulty of Futsuu slightly.

[Kantan]

As this is a Kantan, try to reduce slider velocity to 1.2 for beginners ?
Done
00:20:286 (7) - remove finish ? The music is quiet there.
Done
00:23:786 (12) - add finish ? The music is noticeably loud compared to 00:20:286 (7) -
Done
00:48:286 (18) - add finish ? A stressed sound occurs here. Also, 2 finishes in a row could make the pattern consistent to 00:39:786 (6,7) and 00:31:786 (23,24) -
Done, however made it a kat as well
00:50:286 (20) - change to k ? It could fit the vocal better.
I dislike mapping on the vocal and avoid whenever I can
00:52:286 (22) - ^
^, I mapped on the snare(?) here
00:56:286 (28) - add finish ? It could emphasize the vocal.
Done, though for an entirely different reason
01:00:286 (32) - k can match the vocal, as it has the same pitch as 01:02:286 (35) - which you used K there.
No, I used a kat there because the instrument
01:12:286 (11) - It seems that you have missed finish here, as 01:28:286 (33) - also has finish.
Done
01:18:786 (19) - k. It could follow the snare better. And you also used k at 01:08:786 (4) -
Done
01:36:286 (2) - add finish and 01:40:286 (7) - remove finish ? The reason is similar to 00:20:286 (7) and 00:23:786 (12)
1. No 2. Done

[Futsuu]

00:23:786 (13) - add finish as suggested in Kantan ? You did it at 00:32:286 (30) -
Done, though I think it's a bit too much for futsuu
00:47:786 (23,24) - K K, to make it consistent to 00:31:786 (29,30) -
Done
00:56:286 (38) - same as Kantan.
Same as Kantan
01:00:286 (42) - ^
^
01:19:036 (30) - k ? This could follow the high-pitched vocal better.
Made it dkdkd instead
01:35:036 (1) - ^
^
01:43:786 (13) - K, similar to 00:31:786 (29,30) -
Done

[Muzukashii]

00:36:286 (1) - remove finish ? A bit loud imo.
It's not loud indeed, but the next note is considerably quieter, so I think it fits
00:42:036 (4) - k here ? According to your pattern, you used k in most of the red lines like 00:40:536 (19) - 00:38:536 (11) and 00:38:036 (9)
Done
00:46:536 (20) - k would follow the snare drum better
Made 00:46:286 (19) - kat instead
00:50:536 (35,36) - swap notes ? To make it the same as 00:48:286 (27,28,29) - which flows in a way better.
No
00:54:036 (46) - k to follow the vocal ?
No
01:00:286 (62) - k would be better. (refer to Kantan)
No, but I have no idea why I had 01:00:786 (63) - as a don, fixed
01:03:286 (72) - k ? The pitch of the vocal keeps increasing starting from 01:02:786 (70) -
No
01:11:036 (9) - k ? Similar to 00:42:036 (4)
No, I'm quite fond of that part, though I admit the earlier part is heavily mapped on vocal, while this mostly on the instruments
01:19:661 (11,12) - either remove 01:19:661 (11) - or remove finish of 01:19:786 (12) - It is not advised to use finish in 1/4 most of the time.
I was thinking a lot what the hell should I do with that part and this looked like the best solution. I know it's unusual to use finish in 1/4, but since it's not monocolour it should be rankable.
01:27:036 (9) - same as 01:11:036 (9)
No
01:35:661 (11,12) - same as 01:19:661 (11,12) -
No
01:36:286 (13) - add finish ? To make it consistent to 01:44:286 (21) -
The previous sound is a lot louder, I feel it'd be overemphasised

[Oni]

00:04:286 (17) - remove finish ? I think it is a bit over-emphasized.
Compared to that part, I think it isn't
00:08:286 (34) - ^
^
00:12:286 (1) - ^
^
00:15:036 (13) - k for the high-pitched vocal ?
No
00:27:661 - add d, as the sound is identical to 00:27:536 (60) -
Done, though removed the note behind it
00:29:536 (69,70,71) - kdk would be better, regarding the cymbal and the snare.
Done, also made the previous note a k
00:41:786 (28) - k for both the vocal and the snare ?
Done
00:47:661 (24,25) - either remove 24 or remove finish of 25. It is not advised to use finish in 1/4 most of the time.
It's not monocolour, should be fine
01:01:786 (21) - add finish for the loud cymbal ?
Done
01:03:286 (26) - K ? similar as Muzu
No, similar as muzu
01:12:911 (18) - move to 01:12:661 - ?
Done
01:15:411 - add k and 01:15:661 - add d ?
No, but did something similar
01:18:786 (2,3) - k k to follow the vocal better ?
No
01:19:661 (6,7) - similar to 00:47:661 (24,25) -
No
01:28:911 (18) - move to 01:28:661 - ?
No
01:31:411 - add k and 01:31:661 - add d ?
No, but did something similar
01:34:786 (2,3) - same as 01:18:786 (2,3)
No
01:35:661 (6,7) - similar to 00:47:661 (24,25) -
No

Good luck~ :D
Thanks for your mod!
neonat
Muzu

00:03:286 (3) - k? the tone goes up for the set of 3 beats
00:11:286 (9) - ^
00:32:286 (74,75,76) - ok this part was slightly weird, maybe it was the pattern of dkd as it seems identical to the tune of 00:34:286 (83,84,85) - so I think using kdk would fit better
00:33:036 (77,78,79,80,81) - for claps, it's usually paired with a rise in tone of the music, naturally because it sounds higher as well. So i was thinking, this part is currently kd d kd, but looking at the music, I felt if it was dk k dk, it might fit better. Same reasoning for 00:35:036 (86,87,88,89,90)
00:39:661 (16,17) - have it become a kD instead with the finish because of the cymbals
00:47:536 (25) - move it to 00:47:661 to match the vocals
01:12:286 (14) - D to go with cymbals in music
01:15:411 - add a d
01:20:286 (13) - D as well
01:28:286 (14) - ^

Oni

00:35:161 (95) - change this to d because of the change in tone
00:35:286 (96) - shift this to 00:35:411 and change it to k and add a note 00:35:661 for a more complete pattern
00:39:661 - the gap seems abrupt and stands out, add a d here
00:41:286 (25) - the nature of the song, it is more of 2 beat and 4 beat patterns. Having the 3 beat patterns here sounds weird. Shift this to 00:41:411
00:44:161 - pause stands out, add a k
01:34:786 (2) - change to K for impact cymbals
01:35:286 (4) - change to D as well for impact
01:43:411 - add a k for more continuity and flow

Good Luck~
Topic Starter
verto

neonat wrote:

Muzu

00:03:286 (3) - k? the tone goes up for the set of 3 beats
Done
00:11:286 (9) - ^
Done
00:32:286 (74,75,76) - ok this part was slightly weird, maybe it was the pattern of dkd as it seems identical to the tune of 00:34:286 (83,84,85) - so I think using kdk would fit better
Done
00:33:036 (77,78,79,80,81) - for claps, it's usually paired with a rise in tone of the music, naturally because it sounds higher as well. So i was thinking, this part is currently kd d kd, but looking at the music, I felt if it was dk k dk, it might fit better. Same reasoning for 00:35:036 (86,87,88,89,90)
Done both
00:39:661 (16,17) - have it become a kD instead with the finish because of the cymbals
That's exactly the reason why I have it as dK. Thought kat fits cymbal better. No change
00:47:536 (25) - move it to 00:47:661 to match the vocals
Done
01:12:286 (14) - D to go with cymbals in music
Is this kind of an universally accepted rule in taiko mapping? Because if yes, I'll change it. If not, I'll leave it as it is
01:15:411 - add a d
Done
01:20:286 (13) - D as well
Done, however made it K
01:28:286 (14) - ^
^


Oni

00:35:161 (95) - change this to d because of the change in tone
No
00:35:286 (96) - shift this to 00:35:411 and change it to k and add a note 00:35:661 for a more complete pattern
No, but changed it a bit
00:39:661 - the gap seems abrupt and stands out, add a d here
Done
00:41:286 (25) - the nature of the song, it is more of 2 beat and 4 beat patterns. Having the 3 beat patterns here sounds weird. Shift this to 00:41:411
No, but I see what you mean, though I changed that part to kdk kdk.
00:44:161 - pause stands out, add a k
Done
01:34:786 (2) - change to K for impact cymbals
No
01:35:286 (4) - change to D as well for impact
No
01:43:411 - add a k for more continuity and flow
No

Good Luck~
Thanks for your mod! I thought I won't change muzu much, but you had written there some really good stuff.
xtrem3x
My 1st Mod (from #modreqs Channel) ....

____________________________

Kantan

GOOD
____________________________

Fuutsu

GOOD
____________________________

Muzukashii:

ALL Kiai Time ( 01:04:286 - 01:36:286 ) - Add circles, these empty parts are .... Simple XD

____________________________

Oni:

HP - 8 / CS - 5 / AR - 8 / OD - 8
Kiai Time ( 01:04:286 - 01:36:286 ) - Velocity 1.20x

____________________________

Inner Oni:

HP - 8 / CS - 5 / AR - 9 / OD - 9
Same - Kiai Time ( 01:04:286 - 01:36:286 ) - Velocity 1.20x
01:20:286 (Middle kiai) up to 1.25 or 1.30x

____________________________

Sorry for bad modding XDDD
Topic Starter
verto

xtrem3x wrote:

My 1st Mod (from #modreqs Channel) ....

____________________________

Kantan

GOOD
____________________________

Fuutsu

GOOD
____________________________

Muzukashii:

ALL Kiai Time ( 01:04:286 - 01:36:286 ) - Add circles, these empty parts are .... Simple XD
It's simple for you, but novice players need time to recover and little breaks help them
____________________________

Oni:

HP - 8 / CS - 5 / AR - 8 / OD - 8
CS and AR doesn't do anything - OD8?? Regular oni are OD5, rarely 6.

Kiai Time ( 01:04:286 - 01:36:286 ) - Velocity 1.20x
I only want to use velocity change in the inner oni


____________________________

Inner Oni:

HP - 8 / CS - 5 / AR - 9 / OD - 9
Same - Kiai Time ( 01:04:286 - 01:36:286 ) - Velocity 1.20x
01:20:286 (Middle kiai) up to 1.25 or 1.30x
I think the SV changes are fine the way are, if anything I'll have to remove them since previous mods questioned the need of SV changes


____________________________

Sorry for bad modding XDDD
Well it's okay, but I can't give kudosu for this :(
Stefan
You called me for M4M, so here we go!

[Kantan]
00:23:786 (12,13) - maybe you could leave the first Big K out because it actually doesn't feels so confortable for this level. It's up to you. I wouldn't use many Finishes in kantan generally.
00:35:286 (27,28,1) - That exactly sounds like 00:43:286 (10,11,12). Please keep this consistent.
00:52:286 (22) - k?
00:54:286 (24,25) - Remove (25) and change (24) to follow the pitch here.
01:00:286 (32) - k?
01:01:786 (34) - Change it to k.
01:02:786 (36) - Remove it for a better flow.
01:05:786 (4) - k?
01:08:786 (4) - Remove it to keep a constant rhythm.
01:11:536 (9) - 1/2 is highly recommened to avoid in Kantan Diffs and so you shouldn't use it.

[Futsuu]
00:26:786 (18) - Would remove for a better transition.
00:32:786 (31) - k?
00:35:786 (36) - ^
00:43:786 (15) - ^
00:44:036 (15) - Replace it to 00:43:536?
00:44:786 - Set k here? Sounds kinda empty without a circle here.
00:46:286 - 00:48:286 - Change to that?: http://puu.sh/99GQM/3a63333c97.jpg
00:51:286 (29) - k?
00:52:286 - 00:55:286 - http://puu.sh/99H4g/ffef449be2.jpg maybe?
00:58:286 (40) - k?
01:00:286 (42) - ^
01:03:286 (47) - ^
01:04:286 - 01:08:286 - Try this pattern out: http://puu.sh/9faEm/f3d1540a46.jpg You should build on this pattern since they are pretty simple, has a lot of room what you can make for variety and plays fine to the Music.

[Muzukashii]
00:16:286 - 00:19:786 - Personally what I'd like to see into this part would be that: http://puu.sh/9fbc0/7511034c9f.jpg since it shouldn't look like a Copy+Paste of 00:20:286 - 00:23:786 I didn't made it too similar. Still it's pretty great to play, just an idea I've got while testing this.
00:24:286 - 00:27:786 - here too.
00:47:036 (36,37,38,39,40) - I think dd kk can work here better. (38) feels kinda weird in that Stream pattern.
00:52:536 (52) - Move to 00:52:536 (52) to fit with the vocal.
00:58:536 (64) - ^ to 00:57:536.

[Oni]
00:44:286 - 00:46:286 - That feels and plays kinda unfitting, while you had previously - and after then - some nice Doubles in with kd and dk this looks quite plain and boring. It's also not really significant to this part tbh. Try to change it that it fits more with the previous part and the following.
00:53:911 (45) - Remove? Flow gets better imo

[Inner Oni]
begin - 00:16:286 - I think Triplets/Streams shouldn't be put here. That feels pretty overmapped and not fitting well.
00:28:661 (66,67) - switch? It currently sounds quite spamy with all that k here.
00:35:036 (96,97,98,99,100,101) - Change it to dk kddk. There is a important beat at 00:35:161 which should be emphasized.
00:41:161 (25,26) - switch?
00:43:411 (1) - k? Sounds better to me.
00:43:911 (4) - I think this circle doesn't contribute much on the rhythm and imo I would leave it out completely.

Well, that's it. You should make Oni a bit easier since Inner Oni doesn't feels much harder as Oni. And so that the Gap between Muzukashii and Oni isn't well.
Topic Starter
verto

Stefan wrote:

You called me for M4M, so here we go!

[Kantan]
00:23:786 (12,13) - maybe you could leave the first Big K out because it actually doesn't feels so confortable for this level. It's up to you. I wouldn't use many Finishes in kantan generally.
It's 120BPM, people often skip kantan altogether because it's too easy anyway.
00:35:286 (27,28,1) - That exactly sounds like 00:43:286 (10,11,12). Please keep this consistent.
Done, made both d k d
00:52:286 (22) - k?
It's the same sound all over that part
00:54:286 (24,25) - Remove (25) and change (24) to follow the pitch here.
No, I don't see a reason why
01:00:286 (32) - k?
No, keeping it like the previous one
01:01:786 (34) - Change it to k.
K is fine
01:02:786 (36) - Remove it for a better flow.
Done
01:05:786 (4) - k?
Done
01:08:786 (4) - Remove it to keep a constant rhythm.
Done
01:11:536 (9) - 1/2 is highly recommened to avoid in Kantan Diffs and so you shouldn't use it.
Removed the middle k, but it feels weird this way.

[Futsuu]
00:26:786 (18) - Would remove for a better transition.
00:25:786 (16) - removed this instead
00:32:786 (31) - k?
Done
00:35:786 (36) - ^
No
00:43:786 (15) - ^
Done
00:44:036 (15) - Replace it to 00:43:536?
No
00:44:786 - Set k here? Sounds kinda empty without a circle here.
Done
00:46:286 - 00:48:286 - Change to that?: http://puu.sh/99GQM/3a63333c97.jpg
The second note is d, but done the rest
00:51:286 (29) - k?
No
00:52:286 - 00:55:286 - http://puu.sh/99H4g/ffef449be2.jpg maybe?
No, but changed it a bit
00:58:286 (40) - k?
No
01:00:286 (42) - ^
No
01:03:286 (47) - ^
No
01:04:286 - 01:08:286 - Try this pattern out: http://puu.sh/9faEm/f3d1540a46.jpg You should build on this pattern since they are pretty simple, has a lot of room what you can make for variety and plays fine to the Music.
No, would make it too hard for futsuu and I don't want to remap the whole kiai time just to make it cooler, especially since the patterns would differ a lot from the non-kiai time parts.

[Muzukashii]
00:16:286 - 00:19:786 - Personally what I'd like to see into this part would be that: http://puu.sh/9fbc0/7511034c9f.jpg since it shouldn't look like a Copy+Paste of 00:20:286 - 00:23:786 I didn't made it too similar. Still it's pretty great to play, just an idea I've got while testing this.
But the same parts being mapped the same is kind of the point, I already had mods saying that my mapping is too random
00:24:286 - 00:27:786 - here too.
^
00:47:036 (36,37,38,39,40) - I think dd kk can work here better. (38) feels kinda weird in that Stream pattern.
I prefer the stream there
00:52:536 (52) - Move to 00:52:536 (52) to fit with the vocal.
Wait, what? The time is the same
00:58:536 (64) - ^ to 00:57:536.
No, but made some tweaks

[Oni]
00:44:286 - 00:46:286 - That feels and plays kinda unfitting, while you had previously - and after then - some nice Doubles in with kd and dk this looks quite plain and boring. It's also not really significant to this part tbh. Try to change it that it fits more with the previous part and the following.
Tweaked a bit
00:53:911 (45) - Remove? Flow gets better imo
No

[Inner Oni]
begin - 00:16:286 - I think Triplets/Streams shouldn't be put here. That feels pretty overmapped and not fitting well.
I don't think it doesn't fit. I kind of agree about the overmapping part, but it's inner oni for a reason
00:28:661 (66,67) - switch? It currently sounds quite spamy with all that k here.
Done
00:35:036 (96,97,98,99,100,101) - Change it to dk kddk. There is a important beat at 00:35:161 which should be emphasized.
Done
00:41:161 (25,26) - switch?
No, but changed it a bit
00:43:411 (1) - k? Sounds better to me.
Done
00:43:911 (4) - I think this circle doesn't contribute much on the rhythm and imo I would leave it out completely.
Done

Well, that's it. You should make Oni a bit easier since Inner Oni doesn't feels much harder as Oni. And so that the Gap between Muzukashii and Oni isn't well.
Oni was the previous muzukashii, but since people were complaining it being too hard, I made it an oni. Personally that's my favourite diff that's why I even made an extra diff so I could keep it that way.
Thanks for your mod!
wasonz
From my queue

Muzukashii
00:15:786 (1) - K
00:47:411 (39) - maybe delete this
01:04:786 (3) - add d because it's kiai i suggest you not leave it blank
01:05:286 (4) - k
01:10:786 (15) - add k
01:15:786 (27) - add k
01:17:286 (31) - k
01:19:286 (38) - k
01:20:786 (41) - add d
01:26:786 (2) - add k
01:32:786 (17) - add k also this can be d

Oni
00:23:786 (37) - d
00:44:286 (13) - k
01:11:786 (13) - d
01:27:536 (11,12,13) - ddk
01:43:786 (20) - d

Inner Oni
... my comment Why Inner has star difficult lower than oni ;w;
00:01:286 (5) - k
00:03:536 (15) - d
00:09:786 (41) - k
01:43:786 (45) - d

look like kdkdk this pattern easier than kdd on oni :?

that kat fit too the song ! Nice .Good Luck ~ :)
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[I]MMoRTal[S] wrote:

From my queue

Muzukashii
00:15:786 (1) - K
Nooo that sound is a thump, not sharp at all, should be don
00:47:411 (39) - maybe delete this
No, that pattern should be a quad anyway, but I can't because it's muzu
01:04:786 (3) - add d because it's kiai i suggest you not leave it blank
There is a d there o.O
01:05:286 (4) - k
Done
01:10:786 (15) - add k
No
01:15:786 (27) - add k
No
01:17:286 (31) - k
No
01:19:286 (38) - k
No
01:20:786 (41) - add d
But that's a d already (´・ω・`)
01:26:786 (2) - add k
No
01:32:786 (17) - add k also this can be d
Done

Oni
00:23:786 (37) - d
Nooo
00:44:286 (13) - k
Done
01:11:786 (13) - d
No
01:27:536 (11,12,13) - ddk
No
01:43:786 (20) - d
No


Inner Oni
... my comment Why Inner has star difficult lower than oni ;w;
I don't know, blame peppy and tom (´・ω・`)
00:01:286 (5) - k
Done
00:03:536 (15) - d
No, if I put d there I feel I need to put a triplet around there as well
00:09:786 (41) - k
Done
01:43:786 (45) - d
No

look like kdkdk this pattern easier than kdd on oni :?

that kat fit too the song ! Nice .Good Luck ~ :)
Thanks~! Also thanks for the mod!
wasonz
Sorry for my mistake I copies wrong note lol
No kds please

Muzukashi

01:04:786 (3) - add d
01:20:786 (39) - add d

:P
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[I]MMoRTal[S] wrote:

Sorry for my mistake I copies wrong note lol
No kds please

Muzukashi

01:04:786 (3) - add d
01:20:786 (39) - add d

:P
Changed nothing, sowwie :<
drum drum
Map looks good so far.
[General]
I don't have much to say about this map set to be honest. I do feel like the beginning of the song could use a bit more notes.

For Kantan and Futsuu I'd suggest you step up the map difficulty a bit more. Kantan is probably fine as it is already, Futsuu could be a bit more difficult to be honest in my opinion.
I don't have any problems with the notes you have in the maps, I've test played them a couple times and they were pretty fun!
I feel like Futsuu is lacking a good amount of notes. It could just be my imagination though.

OnosakiHito provided a good example on the differences between Taiko difficulties
Please note each bar is a different difficulty. Oni is at the top, Kantan is at the bottom.

View the full guide on mapping Taiko

This map has a lot of potential, keep up the good work!
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drum drum wrote:

Map looks good so far.
[General]
I don't have much to say about this map set to be honest. I do feel like the beginning of the song could use a bit more notes.

For Kantan and Futsuu I'd suggest you step up the map difficulty a bit more. Kantan is probably fine as it is already, Futsuu could be a bit more difficult to be honest in my opinion.
I don't have any problems with the notes you have in the maps, I've test played them a couple times and they were pretty fun!
I feel like Futsuu is lacking a good amount of notes. It could just be my imagination though.

OnosakiHito provided a good example on the differences between Taiko difficulties
Please note each bar is a different difficulty. Oni is at the top, Kantan is at the bottom.

View the full guide on mapping Taiko

This map has a lot of potential, keep up the good work!

I get a lot that kantan and futsuu a bit too easy, but keep in mind it's 120BPM. I tried to make the futsuu harder, but I only got a slightly easier muzu.

I can't map the futsuu in the same style as the harder diffs, because it'd be either too close to kantan or too close to muzu in difficulty.

Only the Inner oni has dense note placement on the beginning, one of the reasons is that even with that it's easier than the normal oni somewhy according to the star system.

I made some changes though.
EDIT: The part after the kiai is mapped in the same style as the muzu. Rest is like before. Now the difficulty spread is better, though I saved the old futsuu in case you can't mix styles in one diff.

I was aware of the video, but that's my weak point honestly.
MidSoul
hi.・ω・)ノ” From taiko modding queue.

[kantan]
・For this song, with all notes on 1/1 line is good.

00:23:786 (13) -
00:31:786 (25) -
00:39:786 (6) -
00:47:786 (17) -
00:55:786 (27) -
01:19:786 (19) -
01:27:786 (30) -
01:43:786 (13) -
(00:15:786 (1) - )
・for kantan difficulty, please remove this finisher.

01:02:286 (35) - rem this note

01:35:786 (1) - K
01:36:286 (2) - d

[futsuu]
00:23:536 (12) - del

00:30:536 (24,25) - del

00:47:536 (22) - rem

01:43:786 (17) - rem finisher

[Muzukashii]

00:30:536 (41,42,43,44) - del and 00:30:661 - , 00:31:036 - add k
・fordifficulty

00:36:036 (61) - rem

00:47:036 (36) - k and 00:47:161 (37) - del

[Oni]
00:47:661 (29) - remove
・its really slow song but not recomended finisher at 1/4 doublet end, so please delete.

01:15:786 (32) - rem finisher
・there's no such as big sound.

01:19:661 (11) - rem
01:35:661 (11) - rem
・same as 00:47:661 (29) -


[Inner Oni]
・This inner is really unbalanced map.. I think its good for separate DL.

00:06:036 (24) - k

00:07:536 (32,33) - kk

00:19:286 (9,10,11,12,13,14) - dk_dkdk

00:29:536 (62,63,64) - dkd or dkk

00:38:036 (9,10,11,12) - kkddd

00:39:661 (19) - rem

00:45:161 (10) - k

00:47:661 (24) - rem

00:48:286 (26,,,66,1,,,21) - to follow percassion drums is best I think.

01:07:786 (20) - rem finisher

01:19:661 (6) - rem or move 1/2 <

01:23:786 (26) - rem finisher

01:35:661 (6) - rem or move 1/2 <
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yo~

[kantan]
・For this song, with all notes on 1/1 line is good.

00:23:786 (13) -
00:31:786 (25) -
00:39:786 (6) -
00:47:786 (17) -
00:55:786 (27) -
01:19:786 (19) -
01:27:786 (30) -
01:43:786 (13) -
(00:15:786 (1) - )
・for kantan difficulty, please remove this finisher.
No

01:02:286 (35) - rem this note
No

01:35:786 (1) - K
01:36:286 (2) - d
Done both

[futsuu]
00:23:536 (12) - del
No
00:30:536 (24,25) - del
No, that part shouldn't be undermapped
00:47:536 (22) - rem
No, but changed it a bit

01:43:786 (17) - rem finisher
No

[Muzukashii]

00:30:536 (41,42,43,44) - del and 00:30:661 - , 00:31:036 - add k

・fordifficulty
That's pretty cool, done
00:36:036 (61) - rem
No, need it for kat consistency

00:47:036 (36) - k and 00:47:161 (37) - del
No, feels too empty

[Oni]
00:47:661 (29) - remove
・its really slow song but not recomended finisher at 1/4 doublet end, so please delete.
It fits the music and is not unrankable, I don't see why should I remove this
01:15:786 (32) - rem finisher
・there's no such as big sound.
Done

01:19:661 (11) - rem
01:35:661 (11) - rem
・same as 00:47:661 (29) -
No

[Inner Oni]
・This inner is really unbalanced map.. I think its good for separate DL.
Yeah that's a dilemma for me, I'm already asking a BAT about it.

00:06:036 (24) - k
Done

00:07:536 (32,33) - kk
No

00:19:286 (9,10,11,12,13,14) - dk_dkdk
Done it a bit differently

00:29:536 (62,63,64) - dkd or dkk
dkd it is

00:38:036 (9,10,11,12) - kkddd
No

00:39:661 (19) - rem
No

00:45:161 (10) - k
No

00:47:661 (24) - rem
No

00:48:286 (26,,,66,1,,,21) - to follow percassion drums is best I think.
I think that part is fine, removed 01:00:161 (13) - though and inverted 01:00:286 (14) -

01:07:786 (20) - rem finisher
Done

01:19:661 (6) - rem or move 1/2 <
No

01:23:786 (26) - rem finisher
Done

01:35:661 (6) - rem or move 1/2 <
No


Thanks for the mod!
Julie
Mod request from pm~

[General]
Make the inner oni more stars then the oni, so it has better difficulty spread

[Muzukashii]
00:03:286 (3) - k
00:11:286 (1) - k
Or you could do the begining a bit like kantan or futsuu, instead of just don
00:43:036 - add a note
01:12:286 (22,23,24,25) - do the same as 01:08:286 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) -
01:18:536 (1,2,3,4) - kdkk
01:19:786 (5) - D

[Oni]
00:23:536 (35,36,37) - ddk
01:34:786 (8) - finish
01:35:286 (10) - finish
01:36:036 - d
01:38:536 - d
01:40:536 - d

[Inner Oni]
00:18:786 - add a note
00:47:036 (19,20,21,22,23) - dkkd
00:50:536 - add a note, losing rythmn
00:53:036 - ^
01:03:786 (1) - D sound way better here, for like big BOOOOOOM!! big DOOOOOOOOOOON xD
01:15:286 (32,33,34,35,36) - kdddk
01:31:286 (32,33,34,35,36) - kdddk
01:35:786 (7) - D
01:36:036 - D
01:35:411 - remove green line
01:51:786 (81) - D
Topic Starter
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Julie wrote:

Mod request from pm~

[General]
Make the inner oni more stars then the oni, so it has better difficulty spread
I can't do that, star system is just stupid. It is harder, try playing it

[Muzukashii]
00:03:286 (3) - k
00:11:286 (1) - k
Or you could do the begining a bit like kantan or futsuu, instead of just don
Yeah I'll do that
00:43:036 - add a note
No
01:12:286 (22,23,24,25) - do the same as 01:08:286 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) -
That'd be too bland, the kiai time is 2x the same thing anyway.
01:18:536 (1,2,3,4) - kdkk
No, but I changed it to kdkd
01:19:786 (5) - D
No

[Oni]
00:23:536 (35,36,37) - ddk
No
01:34:786 (8) - finish
Done
01:35:286 (10) - finish
Done
01:36:036 - d
Done
01:38:536 - d
No, that part is mapped on the piano almost exclusively
01:40:536 - d
^

[Inner Oni]
00:18:786 - add a note
No
00:47:036 (19,20,21,22,23) - dkkd
Uh... how?
00:50:536 - add a note, losing rythmn
No, I intended that break there, this part is less eventful, so I didn't want to overmap it
00:53:036 - ^
^
01:15:286 (32,33,34,35,36) - kdddk
01:31:286 (32,33,34,35,36) - kdddk
01:15:536 (34) - 01:31:536 (34) - these have to be kat no matter what, so no
01:03:786 (1) - D sound way better here, for like big BOOOOOOM!! big DOOOOOOOOOOON xD
01:35:786 (7) - D
01:36:036 - D
01:51:786 (81) - D
http://puu.sh/bhyfZ/2d587a6509.txt for all four above

01:35:411 - remove green line
No but moved it to 01:35:661 -
mintong89
hi, M4M from my queue.

[General]
I think the metadata at here isn't really correct, but don't worry I'll find someone to check it. But if you think your metadata is correct could me show me the source?
Your big note usage isn't same! For example 01:02:536 (34,35,36,37) - these are D at Inner Oni but why not at Oni? Please check all and all diff properly.
Disable "Widescreen Support" at Song Setup.
Your BG is 500x281, which is doesn't meet the standard of BG. (Should be at least 1024x768 to 1366x768.)

[Inner Oni]

00:02:286 - => 00:03:786 - k k d k d k d to follow the vocal properly.
00:16:036 - Any reason to put 1.2 SV here? There's not chorus and it's quite weird when you change 1.0 SV at 00:48:161 - here.
00:16:286 (2) - K because of cymbal?
00:19:661 (11,12) - kd here to avoid too many dk at here? and it can fit with next kdk pattern too!
00:24:286 (36) - K here for cymbal.
00:36:286 (1,2,3) - k d k to make constant with 00:32:286 (75,76,77) - here. (You make d k d at before so k d k at here.)
00:41:036 (23,24,25,26,27,28,29) - The pattern rhythm at here is kinda weird...change to just like previous part? ( 00:37:036 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - here.)
00:45:036 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - same as above.
00:48:286 (25) - K for cymbal.
00:56:036 (58,59,60) - I suggest delete this ddk and change to d K, because the last note of the sound (cymbal) is quite loud.
01:36:286 (8) - Same, K for cymbal.
01:38:036 (17) - k for high pitch piano.
01:42:036 (36) - ^
01:46:036 (55) - ^
01:50:036 (74) - ^.

[Oni]
Well, did you notice the star rating? It display Oni is harder than Inner Oni. Imo, it's makes sense because the rhythm at Oni is mostly like Inner Oni that you made it especially chorus. So in this case I'll suggest you try to reduce the note at the long pattern such as 01:04:286 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - these all.

00:15:286 (12) - k because the vocal at here is quite high pitch.
00:16:286 (2) - K for cymbal.
01:04:286 (2) - D for cymbal.
01:12:286 (14) - ^
01:19:661 (11,12) - Though it's rankable, but I still don't recommend you use 1/4 pattern with big note at the end, because it's mostly not so fun for player and quite weird. So I think it's better if you change to dk.
01:36:286 (14) - K for cymbal.

[Muzukashii]

00:16:286 (2,1,2) - Seriously I don't think these pattern is really easy for Muzukashii player, I'll just put easy 1/2 for it. If you accept please apply to all pattern like this.
00:16:286 (2) - K for cymbal.
00:31:411 (43,44) - This is too hard for Muzukashii player too.
00:35:536 (56,57,58) - kkk here to create some various, you did ddd at previous and next part...kinda boring if you put ddd to all imo.
00:46:536 (34) - Delete this to give Muzukashii player to ready to beat ddddd pattern.
01:04:286 (2) - K for cymbal.
01:06:286 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is too long imo and it's looks like 1/2 spam...try to put some 1/4 on it. Please apply properly to next same pattern.
01:08:286 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - these too, and it's too long for Muzukashii Player imo. Please apply properly to next same pattern.
01:36:286 (4) - K for cymbal.

[Futsuu]

00:30:786 (25,26,27) - Too hard for Futsuu player imo.
01:36:286 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - ^, why don't you make same with first part? Please apply with all next same pattern.

[Kantan]

00:18:286 (4,5) - NO! Kantan should not be have blue-line-note, this is too hard for Kantan! Please apply with all same pattern.
01:27:286 (28,29,30) - These are too hard for Kantan player, should be ddd or kkk.

Well, I can't say this is bad, but this map isn't really polish yet imo. Especially at the diff spread Oni to Inner Oni.
I can't bubble right now, try to find 1-2 mods and call me back and I'll decide want to recheck it or not.
Good Luck.
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mintong89 wrote:

hi, M4M from my queue.

[General]
I think the metadata at here isn't really correct, but don't worry I'll find someone to check it. But if you think your metadata is correct could me show me the source?
http://vgmdb.net/artist/14850
Your big note usage isn't same! For example 01:02:536 (34,35,36,37) - these are D at Inner Oni but why not at Oni? Please check all and all diff properly.
The Inner Oni and the Oni is mapped in different styles. The Oni used to be the Muzukashii, but it was too hard so I made it Oni. The old Oni is the Inner Oni now, but honestly I was asking people what should I do with it, delete one of them or just leave it as it is because Inner Oni is just a Hidden Oni and it doesn't have to be linear with the other diffs. I already asked what should I do with them from Love but he only modded the inner so far, which could explain the different big note usage as well.
Disable "Widescreen Support" at Song Setup.
Done
Your BG is 500x281, which is doesn't meet the standard of BG. (Should be at least 1024x768 to 1366x768.)
I'll search for a new BG then... I really liked this one though, gives back the mood of the song when it's played in the anime.

[Inner Oni]

00:02:286 - => 00:03:786 - k k d k d k d to follow the vocal properly.
Done
00:16:036 - Any reason to put 1.2 SV here? There's not chorus and it's quite weird when you change 1.0 SV at 00:48:161 - here.
Yeah, it's cooler because I couldn't accentuate 00:15:786 (1) - the sound here enough. Also got inspiration from this https://osu.ppy.sh/s/43728

I changed it back to 1x here 00:48:161 because the song has less movement there, it's more dragged out and mellow, compared to the other parts where I increased the SV. I only applied it in the Inner because I wanted to go all out on this diff. As I stated before I'm not even sure if I should keep both the Oni, so I might have to put this one in the description, but I'll leave the decision to the BATs

00:16:286 (2) - K because of cymbal?
Done, though I remember a mod saying I should remove it and I did.

00:19:661 (11,12) - kd here to avoid too many dk at here? and it can fit with next kdk pattern too!
I changed 00:19:286 (9,10,11,12,13) - to dkkdk for now, if you find it unacceptable just reply or write me a pm

00:24:286 (36) - K here for cymbal.
I'd have to make 00:23:786 (35) - K as well which I can't

00:36:286 (1,2,3) - k d k to make constant with 00:32:286 (75,76,77) - here. (You make d k d at before so k d k at here.)
Done
00:41:036 (23,24,25,26,27,28,29) - The pattern rhythm at here is kinda weird...change to just like previous part? ( 00:37:036 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - here.)
Made 00:41:036 (23,24,25,26,27,28) - kddk dk instead, if I make it too duplety it'll be the same as the Oni
00:45:036 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - same as above.
00:45:036 (9,10,11,12,13) - changed this to be the same as 00:43:036 (33,34,1,2,3) -
00:48:286 (25) - K for cymbal.
Done
00:56:036 (58,59,60) - I suggest delete this ddk and change to d K, because the last note of the sound (cymbal) is quite loud.
Fine, but changed the next few second because it'd be too bland
01:36:286 (8) - Same, K for cymbal.
Done
01:38:036 (17) - k for high pitch piano.
01:42:036 (36) - ^
01:46:036 (55) - ^
01:50:036 (74) - ^.
Okay but I'll make the next note don then, too many kats otherwise

[Oni]
Well, did you notice the star rating? It display Oni is harder than Inner Oni. Imo, it's makes sense because the rhythm at Oni is mostly like Inner Oni that you made it especially chorus. So in this case I'll suggest you try to reduce the note at the long pattern such as 01:04:286 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - these all.
I had quite a few people test my map, nobody got a better score on Inner Oni than on Oni. Duplets and even patterns right now is overrated in the current system as far as I can see, which makes this diff's star number higher than it should be. The Inner is way harder, the star system isn't perfect I feel like changing something here just because it's "too hard" according to the imperfect star system is redundant, I'd rather remove the Inner and put it into the description

00:15:286 (12) - k because the vocal at here is quite high pitch.
That part is not mapped on the vocals
00:16:286 (2) - K for cymbal.
Done
01:04:286 (2) - D for cymbal.
Done
01:12:286 (14) - ^
Done
01:19:661 (11,12) - Though it's rankable, but I still don't recommend you use 1/4 pattern with big note at the end, because it's mostly not so fun for player and quite weird. So I think it's better if you change to dk.
If it's rankable and fits to the music what's the harm?
01:36:286 (14) - K for cymbal.
Done


[Muzukashii]

00:16:286 (2,1,2) - Seriously I don't think these pattern is really easy for Muzukashii player, I'll just put easy 1/2 for it. If you accept please apply to all pattern like this.
But technically it is not even 1/2, only the duplets. 1/2 duplets at 120BPM on a Muzukashii isn't hard at all. It's weird that I can use 1/4 triplets but not 1/2 duplets.
00:16:286 (2) - K for cymbal.
Done
00:31:411 (43,44) - This is too hard for Muzukashii player too.
Fine, removed 00:31:411 (43) - and made 00:31:286 (43,44,45) - ddd, but I don't really agree with that.
00:35:536 (56,57,58) - kkk here to create some various, you did ddd at previous and next part...kinda boring if you put ddd to all imo.
I got told off for "being too random" with my mapping. Also it's a pretty repetitious song, can't be helped
00:46:536 (34) - Delete this to give Muzukashii player to ready to beat ddddd pattern.
Done
01:04:286 (2) - K for cymbal.
Done
01:06:286 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is too long imo and it's looks like 1/2 spam...try to put some 1/4 on it. Please apply properly to next same pattern.
You expected some cute patterns? Too bad, it's 1/2-chan!Made 01:06:536 (2,3,4) - and the rest ddd
01:08:286 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - these too, and it's too long for Muzukashii Player imo. Please apply properly to next same pattern.
Well it's 1/2, can't be that hard when you can have 1/4 quints in Muzukashii. I agree that it's a bit undermapped, but I can't put any triplet here unless it's not monocolour, which is a nono for Muzukashii as far as I know.
01:36:286 (4) - K for cymbal.
Done

[Futsuu]

00:30:786 (25,26,27) - Too hard for Futsuu player imo.
It's not even 1/2, why would it be too hard?
01:36:286 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - ^, why don't you make same with first part? Please apply with all next same pattern.
Wow I didn't notice that, Done.

[Kantan]

00:18:286 (4,5) - NO! Kantan should not be have blue-line-note, this is too hard for Kantan! Please apply with all same pattern.
Fine, done. EDIT: I removed about 4 notes and it became 0,94 star from 1,5. I don't even know what I should do with this.
01:27:286 (28,29,30) - These are too hard for Kantan player, should be ddd or kkk.
I made it d K previously, so I applied that here as well
Well, I can't say this is bad, but this map isn't really polish yet imo. Especially at the diff spread Oni to Inner Oni.
I can't bubble right now, try to find 1-2 mods and call me back and I'll decide want to recheck it or not.
Good Luck.
Thanks, I feel a bit guilty about rejecting so many of your suggestions, so I'll probably find you in game soon.
KSHR
^From an anime official site.

Romanized Title: Poni Puni Song(Vocaloid Ver.)
Unicode Title: ぽにぷにそんぐ(Vocaloid Ver.)
Roanized Artist: Fukuhiro Shuuichirou
Unicode Artist: 福廣秀一郎
Source: げんしけん二代目 / Genshiken Nidaime

no kds
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KSHR wrote:

^From an anime official site.

Romanized Title: Poni Puni Song(Vocaloid Ver.)
Unicode Title: ぽにぷにそんぐ(Vocaloid Ver.)
Roanized Artist: Fukuhiro Shuuichirou
Unicode Artist: 福廣秀一郎
Source: げんしけん二代目 / Genshiken Nidaime

no kds
Done, thanks
Kurokami
o/

[General]
  1. "Vocaloid" is in the title already. It is useless to have the same in the tags as well.
  2. Same goes for "Taiko". Because you can use filters for game modes already on the forum and in-game.

    [Kantan]
    1. 01:20:286 - 01:35:786 - This part of the kiai is the same as the first one. I'm suggesting the same patterning.
    2. 01:36:286 - 01:51:786 - This part is exactly the same as 00:16:286 - 00:31:786. I think the same patterning would be nice.
    I think you should repeat your patterns more often. Same rhythm same pattern in taiko.

    [Futsuu]
    1. 01:35:786 (3,4) - K k For better consistency.
    2. 01:50:286 (30,31,32,33,34) - This should be the same as 00:30:286 (1,2,3,4,5,6).
    [Muzukashii]
    1. 00:16:286 (2) - k If you apply this you should change 01:36:286 (4) as well.
    2. 00:48:286 (41) - k
      00:55:786 (59,60) - I personally find these two K a bit useless. Yes, but needs it but if you place only one of these it feels enough since the cymbal will cover the other one. Its hard to decide which one needs more since (59) has a louder cymbal in the background but (60) got a high pitched vocal part. So I leave this to you to decide to I prefer (60) as K.
    3. 01:51:786 (46) - K Consistency again.
    [Oni]

    OD6 seems better to me. o.o

    1. 01:34:786 (8,10,12,14) - Why there is so many K? It makes no sense and just ruin the whole diff. The last two can stay but please remove the finish from (8,10).
    2. 01:36:036 (13) - Delete this.
    3. 01:36:286 - 01:51:786 - This is again different from 00:16:286 - 00:31:786. Please, map it the same way.
    [Inner Oni]
    1. 01:36:286 - 01:51:786 - This is again different from 00:16:286 - 00:31:786. Please, map it the same way. I prefer the patterns after 01:36:286, they follows the music in a better way and they are harder. :3
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I think this set is nice although maybe you used too many finish in overall. Some of your finish at big white tick aka main beat can be removed. I would like to bubble it because I feel this ready but get a few more mod. 2-3 should be enough and call me back if you can't find a taiko BAT at all. qoot is working well nowadays. Good luck. o/
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Kurokami wrote:

o/

[General]
  1. "Vocaloid" is in the title already. It is useless to have the same in the tags as well.
  2. Same goes for "Taiko". Because you can use filters for game modes already on the forum and in-game.
    Done both

    [Kantan]
    1. 01:20:286 - 01:35:786 - This part of the kiai is the same as the first one. I'm suggesting the same patterning.
    2. 01:36:286 - 01:51:786 - This part is exactly the same as 00:16:286 - 00:31:786. I think the same patterning would be nice.
    Done both
    I think you should repeat your patterns more often. Same rhythm same pattern in taiko.
    Yeah in the harder diff it's like that, I must've overlooked the kantan

    [Futsuu]
    1. 01:35:786 (3,4) - K k For better consistency.
      first K is okay, second will stay D, it's the same as in kantan.
    2. 01:50:286 (30,31,32,33,34) - This should be the same as 00:30:286 (1,2,3,4,5,6).
    I disagree, the first has a drum which is different from the second one

    [Muzukashii]
    1. 00:16:286 (2) - k If you apply this you should change 01:36:286 (4) as well.
      No, though I changed 01:36:286 (4) - to D so it's consistent throughout the diffs
    2. 00:48:286 (41) - k
      No, I think I just changed that to K recently
      00:55:786 (59,60) - I personally find these two K a bit useless. Yes, but needs it but if you place only one of these it feels enough since the cymbal will cover the other one. Its hard to decide which one needs more since (59) has a louder cymbal in the background but (60) got a high pitched vocal part. So I leave this to you to decide to I prefer (60) as K.
      ^
    3. 01:51:786 (46) - K Consistency again.
    But it's D in the futsuu - I'd rather keep it and change it to D in kantan as well

    [Oni]

    OD6 seems better to me. o.o
    I have an inner oni where the OD is 6 and I don't like (relatively) high OD on easily DTable maps

    1. 01:34:786 (8,10,12,14) - Why there is so many K? It makes no sense and just ruin the whole diff. The last two can stay but please remove the finish from (8,10).
      Eh, I kind of thought it's fitting because the vacuum cleaner sound, but done.
    2. 01:36:036 (13) - Delete this.
      Why? I didn't map that on nothing.
    3. 01:36:286 - 01:51:786 - This is again different from 00:16:286 - 00:31:786. Please, map it the same way.
      Done, I think I made that part easier so it'll have less star difficulty, but it's faulty anyway so I might as well ignore it for now.
    [Inner Oni]
    1. 01:36:286 - 01:51:786 - This is again different from 00:16:286 - 00:31:786. Please, map it the same way. I prefer the patterns after 01:36:286, they follows the music in a better way and they are harder. :3
      But they are not harder, it has no quads or quints. Also the oni has the same pattern there. Made some minor tweaks at the first part, but I'll keep them different for now, some people prefer mapping the same thing differently so it's less boring, the inner is mapped entirely differently than the rest anyway and I might have to remove it as well.
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I think this set is nice although maybe you used too many finish in overall. Some of your finish at big white tick aka main beat can be removed. I would like to bubble it because I feel this ready but get a few more mod. 2-3 should be enough and call me back if you can't find a taiko BAT at all. qoot is working well nowadays. Good luck. o/
Thanks, actually most of the finishers are from the mods. I'll recheck it with mintong first I think but if he won't want to I'll ask you for sure.
Nwolf
woof from queue :3

[Kantan]

Change SV to 1.4, doesn't make that much sense to have 1.2 because that's actually too low at this BPM imo

00:48:286 - 00:54:286 - Think this part supports to have at least one 4/1 break to reduce density a little bit. Yes, it's only 120 BPM but I think a longer break would be better here instead of 2/1 dons
00:56:286 - 01:00:286 - same here
01:14:786 (12) - kat for consistency?
01:30:786 (5) - ^
01:35:786 (2) - This should be big don, same sound as 01:03:786 (1) -
01:36:286 (3) - Suddenly no big kat?

[Futsuu]

00:19:786 (7) - Think you should not have this note cause the density from Kantan --> Futsuu increases quite a lot here while Futsuu --> Muzu is hardly different. Delete
00:27:786 (24) - ^
00:52:286 (31,32,33,34,35,36) - Triplets here.. Muzu has none. And the second triplet doesn't really fit in this spot anyway.
00:57:286 (41,42,43,44,45) - Sudden change of density .-.
01:08:786 (8) - Move this note 01:10:786 - here so the breaks are more consistent and make more sense to the song
01:12:786 (17) - Delete, reason above
01:16:786 (24) - Move 01:15:786 - here, reason above
repeat for 2nd kiai half
01:39:786 (7) - Delete if the one at 19 seconds (first suggestion) is gone
01:47:786 (24) - ^

[Muzukashii]

00:46:786 (34) - Change to kat so there's consistent kat rhythm
00:47:411 (38) - 5-plet seems very unnecessary to me

[Oni]

00:36:286 (1) - This big note seems quite weird to me, change to normal kat
00:45:286 (18) - Does not fit really, delete
00:47:661 (28,29) - Do not use oX 1/4 doublets, it reads bad and is also unrankable since you can only have big notes at the end of 1/4 streams - this is not a stream.
00:48:536 (31,32) - Switch those notes since 00:50:536 (38,39) - is also ddk
01:35:661 (11,12) - oX again
01:44:286 (50) - Missing big kat here?

[Inner Oni]

I do not think that a song like this needs a diff like this, the amount of overmap does not suit the song to me

If you do plan on keeping this diff even though there already are some people recommending not to do so, 00:00:286 - 00:15:786 - get rid of all 1/4 stuff here because it's a calm part and you should map it as such, it's partially more dense than the more powerful parts of the song (which is everything but the intro)
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Nwolf wrote:

woof from queue :3

[Kantan]

Change SV to 1.4, doesn't make that much sense to have 1.2 because that's actually too low at this BPM imo
Done

00:48:286 - 00:54:286 - Think this part supports to have at least one 4/1 break to reduce density a little bit. Yes, it's only 120 BPM but I think a longer break would be better here instead of 2/1 dons
It's 120BPM, you have about 1 second between each note, and it's the same colour.
00:56:286 - 01:00:286 - same here
^
01:14:786 (12) - kat for consistency?
Changed 01:16:286 (14) - to kat instead
01:30:786 (5) - ^
^ 01:32:286 (7) -
01:35:786 (2) - This should be big don, same sound as 01:03:786 (1) -
It's not entirely the same, the earlier is a bit deeper.
01:36:286 (3) - Suddenly no big kat?
Changed it to small kat.

[Futsuu]

00:19:786 (7) - Think you should not have this note cause the density from Kantan --> Futsuu increases quite a lot here while Futsuu --> Muzu is hardly different. Delete
But then there will be no kat consistency, it's not really stacked actaully, since the notes are more then 1/2 further from each other
00:27:786 (24) - ^
^
00:52:286 (31,32,33,34,35,36) - Triplets here.. Muzu has none. And the second triplet doesn't really fit in this spot anyway.
Changed it a bit, no triplets though
00:57:286 (41,42,43,44,45) - Sudden change of density .-.
Gotta give them some rest time

01:08:786 (8) - Move this note 01:10:786 - here so the breaks are more consistent and make more sense to the song
01:12:786 (17) - Delete, reason above
01:16:786 (24) - Move 01:15:786 - here, reason above
repeat for 2nd kiai half
Done more or less

01:39:786 (7) - Delete if the one at 19 seconds (first suggestion) is gone

01:47:786 (24) - ^
No


[Muzukashii]

00:46:786 (34) - Change to kat so there's consistent kat rhythm
I put kats on different sounds
00:47:411 (38) - 5-plet seems very unnecessary to me
How? There is a very fitting drumroll there. It'd be a shame to waste that on a slider.

[Oni]

00:36:286 (1) - This big note seems quite weird to me, change to normal kat
Done
00:45:286 (18) - Does not fit really, delete
No, changed it a bit though
00:47:661 (28,29) - Do not use oX 1/4 doublets, it reads bad and is also unrankable since you can only have big notes at the end of 1/4 streams - this is not a stream.
Check mintong's mod. He says it's rankable, just not recommended.
00:48:536 (31,32) - Switch those notes since 00:50:536 (38,39) - is also ddk
Done
01:35:661 (11,12) - oX again
Same as before
01:44:286 (50) - Missing big kat here?
Done

[Inner Oni]

I do not think that a song like this needs a diff like this, the amount of overmap does not suit the song to me

If you do plan on keeping this diff even though there already are some people recommending not to do so, 00:00:286 - 00:15:786 - get rid of all 1/4 stuff here because it's a calm part and you should map it as such, it's partially more dense than the more powerful parts of the song (which is everything but the intro)

It's been discussed that I'll remove either the oni or the inner, because several reasons, but I don't plan to change the beginning that drastically, so it'll most like be the inner indeed.
Thanks for your mod! W-Wan~?
Nwolf
t/242237 about the oX doublets
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Nwolf wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/242237 about the oX doublets
FINE changed it so it has no oX, but my lolibutt will be sore about this forever. I don't understand why ooooX is accepted but oX isn't.

Stupid rules :C
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I put the oX back because if Bonfire can have 1/4 oX patterns that overlap each other, why the hell can't mine?
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