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Duca - Kokoro no Tane (Short Ver.)

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Oyatsu
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 17 Tháng Chín 2013 at 6:35:12 CH

Artist: Duca
Title: Kokoro no Tane (Short Ver.)
Source: CAFE SOURIRE
Tags: visual novel eroge opening hentai moe love cuffs
BPM: 119
Filesize: 5986kb
Play Time: 01:43
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,52 stars, 88 notes)
  2. Hard (4,71 stars, 206 notes)
  3. Insane (4,95 stars, 278 notes)
  4. Normal (2,93 stars, 123 notes)
Download: Duca - Kokoro no Tane (Short Ver.)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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~My 2nd beatmap~
-- Easy: Done~
-- Normal: Done~
-- Hard: Done~
-- Isane: Done~
-- SB by me. This is first time I try to make SB. Hope it hasn't problem
Also thanks Setsurei for teaching me SB and help me ^^
Hope you enjoy!
Continue Duca ofc ><

Thanks for mod
P A N
iyasine
Tari
Xinely
scanter
Gloria Guard
jonathanlfi
maagic
- Bakari -
EnixYuki
BeatofIke
HelloSCV
xChippy
Satellite
Heanday
Wafu
wring
abalee
11t
-iCo-
Momochikun
Gero-chan =w=
Leorda
winber1
UnitedWeSin (star icon)
Teara (bubble)
popner (re-bubble)
Scorpiour (ranked)


*Note: Please re-download if you downloaded this map before 8-1-2013 thank wafu for fixing SB ><
Gero
EDIT:

Good Luck! Oyatsu ><!
Topic Starter
Oyatsu

Gero wrote:

EDIT:

Good Luck! Oyatsu ><!
Thanks, Gero ^^
P A N
irc :D

SPOILER
11:46 Oyatsu: hi P A N
11:46 P A N: hi
11:46 Oyatsu: Are you free now?
11:46 P A N: yea
11:46 Oyatsu: Can you mod my map? ( IRC if you can)
11:46 P A N: np
11:47 Oyatsu: ?
11:47 P A N: hm? D:
11:47 P A N: your link
11:48 *Oyatsu is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/274696 Duca - Kokoro no Tane]
11:48 Oyatsu: duca again ><
11:48 Oyatsu: first time I make SB
11:48 Oyatsu: hehe xD
11:55 P A N: Insane
11:55 Oyatsu: yes
11:55 Oyatsu: opened
11:55 P A N: 00:11:720 (7,1) - move to 132|124 for perfect triangle
11:56 Oyatsu: fixed
11:57 P A N: 00:16:006 (5) - move it to stack with the previous (7)
11:57 Oyatsu: fixed
11:59 P A N: 00:24:577 (4) - move to 252|296?
11:59 Oyatsu: fixed
12:00 P A N: 00:50:543 (4) - 1 grid right
12:01 Oyatsu: fixed
12:02 P A N: 00:51:048 (6) - move to 44|152
12:02 Oyatsu: fixed
12:03 P A N: 00:52:308 - try this http://puu.sh/3D8SW.jpg sounds better imo
12:04 Oyatsu: uhm
12:04 Oyatsu: fixed
12:06 P A N: 01:12:350 (6) - move tail up 2 grid
12:06 Oyatsu: ýe
12:06 Oyatsu: yes*
12:07 P A N: 01:12:728 (7,3) - move both to 272|144
12:08 Oyatsu: fixed
12:08 P A N: 01:14:241 (4) - move to 448|232
12:08 Oyatsu: yes
12:09 P A N: 01:19:283 (5,3) - move both to 124|204
12:10 Oyatsu: I unchange
12:10 P A N: 01:30:123 (9) - 1 grid right
12:10 Oyatsu: fixed
12:10 P A N: 01:31:132 (2) - 2 grid left
12:11 Oyatsu: fixed
12:11 P A N: 01:38:443 (3) - move to 476|192
12:11 Oyatsu: fixed
12:12 P A N: 00:06:930 (6) - move tail 3 grid right
12:12 Oyatsu: fixed
12:13 P A N: 00:27:476 (2) - move center 2 grid right and move tail 1 grid down
12:14 Oyatsu: fixed
12:14 P A N: 00:34:409 (4) - move center 1 grid up and move tail to 240|184
12:15 Oyatsu: fixed
12:16 P A N: 01:04:661 (10) - move to 180|60
12:16 Oyatsu: fixed
12:17 P A N: Hard
12:17 Oyatsu: ok
12:18 P A N: 00:01:888 (4) - 1 grid right
12:18 Oyatsu: fixed
12:19 P A N: 00:03:148 - http://puu.sh/3D9pZ.jpg ?
12:20 Oyatsu: fixed
12:21 P A N: 00:13:485 (4) - move tail 1 grid down
12:21 Oyatsu: fixed
12:22 P A N: 00:21:930 (3) - move tail 2 grid right
12:22 Oyatsu: yes
12:23 P A N: 00:27:854 - http://puu.sh/3D9B6.jpg
12:24 Oyatsu: nope
12:27 P A N: 00:59:367 (6) - NC
12:27 Oyatsu: yea ><
12:29 P A N: 01:16:762 (5) - move center up 2 grid and move tail to 192|280
12:29 P A N: 01:18:779 (4) - 1 grid right
12:30 Oyatsu: fixed
12:31 P A N: 01:31:132 (4) - center: 104|168 , tail: 104|120
12:32 P A N: 01:31:888 (1) - center: 268|108 , tail: 352|148
12:33 Oyatsu: fixed
12:33 P A N: 01:34:661 (4) - tail: 236|112
12:33 Oyatsu: fixed
12:34 P A N: 01:37:182 (4,1,2,3) - if possible this will be nice :( http://puu.sh/3D9YE.jpg
12:35 P A N: tell me if you want
12:36 Oyatsu: I fix (4)&(1)
12:36 P A N: ah ok
12:37 P A N: Normal
12:37 Oyatsu: opened
12:41 P A N: 01:01:888 - add note here
12:41 P A N: empty can make beginner confuse
12:42 Oyatsu: yes
12:42 Oyatsu: fixed
12:44 P A N: 01:20:039 - delete the spinner and add these note http://puu.sh/3DagZ.jpg
12:44 Oyatsu: yes
12:44 P A N: I testplay and spinner make the note after spinner confuse
12:45 P A N: oh this is normal i forget
12:45 P A N: 01:27:602 - so maybe we can add ntoe here
12:45 P A N: note*
12:45 Oyatsu: fixed
12:47 P A N: 01:28:106 - what about this http://puu.sh/3Daog.jpg
12:48 Oyatsu: fix other way
12:49 P A N: 01:39:451 (1) - add finish
12:49 P A N: would be great
12:49 Oyatsu: nope
12:49 P A N: ok Easy
12:50 Oyatsu: opened
12:53 P A N: 00:39:199 (3) - center: 1 grid up , tail: 1 grid left
12:54 Oyatsu: fixed
12:56 P A N: 00:58:358 (2) - what about this shape http://puu.sh/3DaJa.jpg
12:56 P A N: I can blanket with (3)
12:56 P A N: It can*
12:56 Oyatsu: oh
12:56 Oyatsu: yes
12:56 Oyatsu: fix
12:59 P A N: 01:31:636 (4) - delete the second point (from tail)
13:00 Oyatsu: fixed
13:00 P A N: and move tail to the right 2 grid
13:00 Oyatsu: fixed
13:01 P A N: ok done

good luck oyatsu :D
Topic Starter
Oyatsu

P A N wrote:

irc :D

SPOILER
11:46 Oyatsu: hi P A N
11:46 P A N: hi
11:46 Oyatsu: Are you free now?
11:46 P A N: yea
11:46 Oyatsu: Can you mod my map? ( IRC if you can)
11:46 P A N: np
11:47 Oyatsu: ?
11:47 P A N: hm? D:
11:47 P A N: your link
11:48 *Oyatsu is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/274696 Duca - Kokoro no Tane]
11:48 Oyatsu: duca again ><
11:48 Oyatsu: first time I make SB
11:48 Oyatsu: hehe xD
11:55 P A N: Insane
11:55 Oyatsu: yes
11:55 Oyatsu: opened
11:55 P A N: 00:11:720 (7,1) - move to 132|124 for perfect triangle
11:56 Oyatsu: fixed
11:57 P A N: 00:16:006 (5) - move it to stack with the previous (7)
11:57 Oyatsu: fixed
11:59 P A N: 00:24:577 (4) - move to 252|296?
11:59 Oyatsu: fixed
12:00 P A N: 00:50:543 (4) - 1 grid right
12:01 Oyatsu: fixed
12:02 P A N: 00:51:048 (6) - move to 44|152
12:02 Oyatsu: fixed
12:03 P A N: 00:52:308 - try this http://puu.sh/3D8SW.jpg sounds better imo
12:04 Oyatsu: uhm
12:04 Oyatsu: fixed
12:06 P A N: 01:12:350 (6) - move tail up 2 grid
12:06 Oyatsu: ýe
12:06 Oyatsu: yes*
12:07 P A N: 01:12:728 (7,3) - move both to 272|144
12:08 Oyatsu: fixed
12:08 P A N: 01:14:241 (4) - move to 448|232
12:08 Oyatsu: yes
12:09 P A N: 01:19:283 (5,3) - move both to 124|204
12:10 Oyatsu: I unchange
12:10 P A N: 01:30:123 (9) - 1 grid right
12:10 Oyatsu: fixed
12:10 P A N: 01:31:132 (2) - 2 grid left
12:11 Oyatsu: fixed
12:11 P A N: 01:38:443 (3) - move to 476|192
12:11 Oyatsu: fixed
12:12 P A N: 00:06:930 (6) - move tail 3 grid right
12:12 Oyatsu: fixed
12:13 P A N: 00:27:476 (2) - move center 2 grid right and move tail 1 grid down
12:14 Oyatsu: fixed
12:14 P A N: 00:34:409 (4) - move center 1 grid up and move tail to 240|184
12:15 Oyatsu: fixed
12:16 P A N: 01:04:661 (10) - move to 180|60
12:16 Oyatsu: fixed
12:17 P A N: Hard
12:17 Oyatsu: ok
12:18 P A N: 00:01:888 (4) - 1 grid right
12:18 Oyatsu: fixed
12:19 P A N: 00:03:148 - http://puu.sh/3D9pZ.jpg ?
12:20 Oyatsu: fixed
12:21 P A N: 00:13:485 (4) - move tail 1 grid down
12:21 Oyatsu: fixed
12:22 P A N: 00:21:930 (3) - move tail 2 grid right
12:22 Oyatsu: yes
12:23 P A N: 00:27:854 - http://puu.sh/3D9B6.jpg
12:24 Oyatsu: nope
12:27 P A N: 00:59:367 (6) - NC
12:27 Oyatsu: yea ><
12:29 P A N: 01:16:762 (5) - move center up 2 grid and move tail to 192|280
12:29 P A N: 01:18:779 (4) - 1 grid right
12:30 Oyatsu: fixed
12:31 P A N: 01:31:132 (4) - center: 104|168 , tail: 104|120
12:32 P A N: 01:31:888 (1) - center: 268|108 , tail: 352|148
12:33 Oyatsu: fixed
12:33 P A N: 01:34:661 (4) - tail: 236|112
12:33 Oyatsu: fixed
12:34 P A N: 01:37:182 (4,1,2,3) - if possible this will be nice :( http://puu.sh/3D9YE.jpg
12:35 P A N: tell me if you want
12:36 Oyatsu: I fix (4)&(1)
12:36 P A N: ah ok
12:37 P A N: Normal
12:37 Oyatsu: opened
12:41 P A N: 01:01:888 - add note here
12:41 P A N: empty can make beginner confuse
12:42 Oyatsu: yes
12:42 Oyatsu: fixed
12:44 P A N: 01:20:039 - delete the spinner and add these note http://puu.sh/3DagZ.jpg
12:44 Oyatsu: yes
12:44 P A N: I testplay and spinner make the note after spinner confuse
12:45 P A N: oh this is normal i forget
12:45 P A N: 01:27:602 - so maybe we can add ntoe here
12:45 P A N: note*
12:45 Oyatsu: fixed
12:47 P A N: 01:28:106 - what about this http://puu.sh/3Daog.jpg
12:48 Oyatsu: fix other way
12:49 P A N: 01:39:451 (1) - add finish
12:49 P A N: would be great
12:49 Oyatsu: nope
12:49 P A N: ok Easy
12:50 Oyatsu: opened
12:53 P A N: 00:39:199 (3) - center: 1 grid up , tail: 1 grid left
12:54 Oyatsu: fixed
12:56 P A N: 00:58:358 (2) - what about this shape http://puu.sh/3DaJa.jpg
12:56 P A N: I can blanket with (3)
12:56 P A N: It can*
12:56 Oyatsu: oh
12:56 Oyatsu: yes
12:56 Oyatsu: fix
12:59 P A N: 01:31:636 (4) - delete the second point (from tail)
13:00 Oyatsu: fixed
13:00 P A N: and move tail to the right 2 grid
13:00 Oyatsu: fixed
13:01 P A N: ok done

good luck oyatsu :D
Thanks you mod, PANDA ^^
iyasine
hi~ Oyatsu o.o/ Thank you for request !

Easy

00:13:989 (2) - Slider Terminal point dot → 1grid down ?

00:43:737 - add clap ?
00:44:745 - ^

Normal

00:02:392 ~ 00:03:905 - How is sound picking like a photograph ?


01:10:964 (3) - x 226 y 284 ?
01:11:972 (4) - x 249 y 153 ?
Appearance will become good if it moves

01:16:006 - hit sound S:C1 → hit sound S:C2 ?
01:28:106 (2) - add clap ?
01:31:132 - ^
01:35:922 - add green line ( S:C2 sound ) ?
01:36:048 - add green line ( S:C1 sound ) ?

Hard

00:16:006 - remove clap ?
00:16:258 - ^
00:16:384 - ^
00:28:611 - remove whistle → add clap ?
00:32:770 - remove clap ?
00:40:333 - add clap ? 00:40:459 - ^ 00:40:711 - ^ and 00:40:4595 - add green line (Audio Volume 35%) 00:40:711 - ^ (Audio Voleme 50%)
00:45:501 (1) - add clap ?
00:53:821 - add green line ( S:C2 sound ) ?
00:53:947 - add green line ( S:C1 sound ) ?
01:04:535 - add clap ?
01:35:922 - add green line ( S:C2 sound ) ?
01:36:048 - add green line ( S:C1 sound ) ?

Insane

00:16:132 (6) - add clap ?
00:16:510 (9) - ^
00:48:022 - remove whistle → add clap ?
01:30:501 - add note and add clap ? 01:30:627 - ^
01:35:922 - add clap ?
01:38:947 ~ 01:39:577 - How is sound picking like a photograph ?
or

nice mapping~! good luck :D
Topic Starter
Oyatsu
iyasine
hi~ Oyatsu o.o/ Thank you for request !

Easy

00:13:989 (2) - Slider Terminal point dot → 1grid down ? :arrow: fixed

00:43:737 - add clap ? :arrow: fixed
00:44:745 - ^ :arrow: ^

Normal

00:02:392 ~ 00:03:905 - How is sound picking like a photograph ? :arrow: fixed


01:10:964 (3) - x 226 y 284 ? :arrow: Can't fix
01:11:972 (4) - x 249 y 153 ? :arrow: ^
Appearance will become good if it moves

01:16:006 - hit sound S:C1 → hit sound S:C2 ? :arrow: Oh god, thank you
01:28:106 (2) - add clap ? :arrow: fixed
01:31:132 - ^ :arrow: ^
01:35:922 - add green line ( S:C2 sound ) ? :arrow: fixed
01:36:048 - add green line ( S:C1 sound ) ? :arrow: fixed

Hard

00:16:006 - remove clap ? :arrow: fixed
00:16:258 - ^ :arrow: fixed
00:16:384 - ^ :arrow: fixed
00:28:611 - remove whistle → add clap ? :arrow: yes
00:32:770 - remove clap ? :arrow: fixed
00:40:333 - add clap ? 00:40:459 - ^ 00:40:711 - ^ and 00:40:4595 - add green line (Audio Volume 35%) 00:40:711 - ^ (Audio Voleme 50%) :arrow: I don't understand
00:45:501 (1) - add clap ? :arrow: yes
00:53:821 - add green line ( S:C2 sound ) ? :arrow: fixed
00:53:947 - add green line ( S:C1 sound ) ? :arrow: ^
01:04:535 - add clap ? :arrow: ^
01:35:922 - add green line ( S:C2 sound ) ? :arrow: ^
01:36:048 - add green line ( S:C1 sound ) ? :arrow: ^

Insane

00:16:132 (6) - add clap ? :arrow: fixed
00:16:510 (9) - ^:arrow: fixed
00:48:022 - remove whistle → add clap ? :arrow: fixed
01:30:501 - add note and add clap ? 01:30:627 - ^:arrow: I don't think so
01:35:922 - add clap ? :arrow: fixed
01:38:947 ~ 01:39:577 - How is sound picking like a photograph ? :arrow: I can unchange hitsound when make as me
or

nice mapping~! good luck :D

Thank for mod. ^^
Tari
IRC mod by request

IRC Mod
19:23 Oyatsu: done~
19:23 Oyatsu: Can we continue?
19:23 Tari: Ok
19:23 Tari: I will mod normal now
19:24 Oyatsu: update plz
19:25 Tari: oh
19:25 Tari: must fix source
19:25 Tari: its Cafe Sourire
19:25 Tari: not Care sourire
19:25 Oyatsu: ah
19:25 Tari: Cafe sourire*
19:25 Oyatsu: @@
19:25 Oyatsu: ok
19:26 Oyatsu: S-> s @@
19:28 Tari: Change s -> S
19:29 Oyatsu: done~
19:29 Oyatsu: really it isn't problem ><
19:29 Tari: ok I start modding now
19:30 Tari: 00:19:031 (4) - Can you move down and little bit right? for better blanket
19:30 Oyatsu: wait
19:30 Tari: In Normal
19:30 Tari: ?
19:30 Oyatsu: ok
19:30 Oyatsu: fixed
19:31 Tari: 00:38:695 (3) - Add whistle to end?
19:34 Tari: 01:07:434 (3) - and maybe move down more?
19:34 Oyatsu: fixed before
19:34 Oyatsu: this not fix
19:35 Oyatsu: I think make that not balance
19:35 Tari: 01:32:140 (2) - make symmetrical?
19:35 Tari: http://puu.sh/3DW3f.jpg
19:36 Oyatsu: fixed
19:37 Tari: 01:37:686 (1) - and move this 2 grid up?
19:37 Oyatsu: fixed
19:38 Tari: 01:38:190 (2) - and move to x:384 y:216 better here
19:38 Tari: perfect symmetry
19:38 Oyatsu: fixed
19:40 Tari: well that all for normal
19:41 Tari: move to hard?
19:41 Oyatsu: ok
19:42 Tari: 00:06:174 (5,6) - Maybe try this: http://puu.sh/3DWjC.jpg
19:43 Oyatsu: fixed
19:44 Tari: oh you add jump
19:44 Tari: :O
19:44 Oyatsu: yes
19:45 Tari: 00:19:031 (5) - curve more so it look like this : http://puu.sh/3DWpi.jpg
19:45 Oyatsu: Seems quite ugly ><
19:46 Oyatsu: I will consider
19:47 Tari: 00:27:098 (4) - maybe add jump here: http://puu.sh/3DWug.jpg
19:47 Oyatsu: fixed
19:50 Tari: 01:03:401 (1) - Move to here http://puu.sh/3DWCo.jpg
19:51 Oyatsu: fixed
19:52 Tari: 01:14:241 (3,4,5) - try this: 01:14:241 (3,4,5) -
19:53 Oyatsu: ?
19:53 Tari: oh
19:53 Tari: http://puu.sh/3DWIf.jpg
19:53 Tari: Sorry
19:53 Tari: ><
19:53 Oyatsu: ^^
19:53 Oyatsu: fixed
19:54 Tari: 01:16:258 (2) - no stack?
19:54 Tari: confusing click orz
19:54 Oyatsu: fixed
19:55 Tari: 01:18:274 (3) - Add whistle?
19:55 Tari: to start
19:55 Oyatsu: fixed
19:57 Tari: 01:37:182 (4) - Decrease spacing?
19:57 Tari: Jump too big 0.0
19:58 Oyatsu: fixed
19:59 Tari: 01:18:274 (3,4,5) - maybe try this? http://puu.sh/3DWWN.jpg
20:00 Oyatsu: fixed
20:01 Tari: 00:56:342 (6,7) - I like this pattern better http://puu.sh/3DX1N.jpg
20:02 Oyatsu: I prefer mine will better
20:03 Tari: well that all for hard
20:04 Tari: now insane ok?
20:04 Oyatsu: ok
20:05 Tari: I think maybe HP-1? for insane, song is slow
20:05 Oyatsu: ?
20:05 Oyatsu: Hp= Hard? ><
20:05 Tari: HP Drain Rate in "Difficulty"
20:05 Tari: drop by 1
20:06 Oyatsu: Hard, HP+6
20:06 Oyatsu: Isane, HP+7
20:06 Oyatsu: If -1
20:06 Tari: ok ><
20:06 Oyatsu: Isane=Hard
20:06 Tari: I understand
20:06 Oyatsu: ok
20:08 Tari: 00:25:964 (4,5,6) - Maybe try this? http://puu.sh/3DXhO.jpg
20:09 Oyatsu: I unchange
20:09 Oyatsu: sorry
20:12 Tari: 00:46:258 (4) - Move up better blanket?
20:12 Tari: 00:48:527 (5) - and move down and right more better blanket too ><
20:12 Oyatsu: fixed
20:13 Oyatsu: fixed
20:14 Tari: 00:50:039 (2,3,4,5,6) - try this pattern? http://puu.sh/3DXty.jpg
20:14 Oyatsu: 1 pattern I like
20:15 Oyatsu: unchange
20:16 Tari: 01:06:174 (4) - Move slider end to right?
20:16 Tari: for better stack
20:16 Oyatsu: fixed
20:17 Tari: 01:18:527 (3) - Same here, move slider end down for better stack
20:17 Oyatsu: fixed
20:19 Tari: 01:11:468 (2) - Add finish?
20:19 Oyatsu: fixed
20:20 Tari: 01:27:602 (3) - Maybe add whistle to start?
20:21 Oyatsu: fixed
20:22 Tari: 01:35:417 (1) - and whistle to slider end?
20:22 Oyatsu: fixed
20:22 Tari: Ok
20:22 Tari: I finish my mod!
20:22 Tari: :D
20:22 Oyatsu: Go! Post!
20:22 Tari: I will give you star
20:22 Tari: its good map :O
20:22 Oyatsu: Thank you alot for modding ^^

Nice Map and SB~ Shoot Star
Topic Starter
Oyatsu

Tari wrote:

IRC mod by request

IRC Mod
19:23 Oyatsu: done~
19:23 Oyatsu: Can we continue?
19:23 Tari: Ok
19:23 Tari: I will mod normal now
19:24 Oyatsu: update plz
19:25 Tari: oh
19:25 Tari: must fix source
19:25 Tari: its Cafe Sourire
19:25 Tari: not Care sourire
19:25 Oyatsu: ah
19:25 Tari: Cafe sourire*
19:25 Oyatsu: @@
19:25 Oyatsu: ok
19:26 Oyatsu: S-> s @@
19:28 Tari: Change s -> S
19:29 Oyatsu: done~
19:29 Oyatsu: really it isn't problem ><
19:29 Tari: ok I start modding now
19:30 Tari: 00:19:031 (4) - Can you move down and little bit right? for better blanket
19:30 Oyatsu: wait
19:30 Tari: In Normal
19:30 Tari: ?
19:30 Oyatsu: ok
19:30 Oyatsu: fixed
19:31 Tari: 00:38:695 (3) - Add whistle to end?
19:34 Tari: 01:07:434 (3) - and maybe move down more?
19:34 Oyatsu: fixed before
19:34 Oyatsu: this not fix
19:35 Oyatsu: I think make that not balance
19:35 Tari: 01:32:140 (2) - make symmetrical?
19:35 Tari: http://puu.sh/3DW3f.jpg
19:36 Oyatsu: fixed
19:37 Tari: 01:37:686 (1) - and move this 2 grid up?
19:37 Oyatsu: fixed
19:38 Tari: 01:38:190 (2) - and move to x:384 y:216 better here
19:38 Tari: perfect symmetry
19:38 Oyatsu: fixed
19:40 Tari: well that all for normal
19:41 Tari: move to hard?
19:41 Oyatsu: ok
19:42 Tari: 00:06:174 (5,6) - Maybe try this: http://puu.sh/3DWjC.jpg
19:43 Oyatsu: fixed
19:44 Tari: oh you add jump
19:44 Tari: :O
19:44 Oyatsu: yes
19:45 Tari: 00:19:031 (5) - curve more so it look like this : http://puu.sh/3DWpi.jpg
19:45 Oyatsu: Seems quite ugly ><
19:46 Oyatsu: I will consider
19:47 Tari: 00:27:098 (4) - maybe add jump here: http://puu.sh/3DWug.jpg
19:47 Oyatsu: fixed
19:50 Tari: 01:03:401 (1) - Move to here http://puu.sh/3DWCo.jpg
19:51 Oyatsu: fixed
19:52 Tari: 01:14:241 (3,4,5) - try this: 01:14:241 (3,4,5) -
19:53 Oyatsu: ?
19:53 Tari: oh
19:53 Tari: http://puu.sh/3DWIf.jpg
19:53 Tari: Sorry
19:53 Tari: ><
19:53 Oyatsu: ^^
19:53 Oyatsu: fixed
19:54 Tari: 01:16:258 (2) - no stack?
19:54 Tari: confusing click orz
19:54 Oyatsu: fixed
19:55 Tari: 01:18:274 (3) - Add whistle?
19:55 Tari: to start
19:55 Oyatsu: fixed
19:57 Tari: 01:37:182 (4) - Decrease spacing?
19:57 Tari: Jump too big 0.0
19:58 Oyatsu: fixed
19:59 Tari: 01:18:274 (3,4,5) - maybe try this? http://puu.sh/3DWWN.jpg
20:00 Oyatsu: fixed
20:01 Tari: 00:56:342 (6,7) - I like this pattern better http://puu.sh/3DX1N.jpg
20:02 Oyatsu: I prefer mine will better
20:03 Tari: well that all for hard
20:04 Tari: now insane ok?
20:04 Oyatsu: ok
20:05 Tari: I think maybe HP-1? for insane, song is slow
20:05 Oyatsu: ?
20:05 Oyatsu: Hp= Hard? ><
20:05 Tari: HP Drain Rate in "Difficulty"
20:05 Tari: drop by 1
20:06 Oyatsu: Hard, HP+6
20:06 Oyatsu: Isane, HP+7
20:06 Oyatsu: If -1
20:06 Tari: ok ><
20:06 Oyatsu: Isane=Hard
20:06 Tari: I understand
20:06 Oyatsu: ok
20:08 Tari: 00:25:964 (4,5,6) - Maybe try this? http://puu.sh/3DXhO.jpg
20:09 Oyatsu: I unchange
20:09 Oyatsu: sorry
20:12 Tari: 00:46:258 (4) - Move up better blanket?
20:12 Tari: 00:48:527 (5) - and move down and right more better blanket too ><
20:12 Oyatsu: fixed
20:13 Oyatsu: fixed
20:14 Tari: 00:50:039 (2,3,4,5,6) - try this pattern? http://puu.sh/3DXty.jpg
20:14 Oyatsu: 1 pattern I like
20:15 Oyatsu: unchange
20:16 Tari: 01:06:174 (4) - Move slider end to right?
20:16 Tari: for better stack
20:16 Oyatsu: fixed
20:17 Tari: 01:18:527 (3) - Same here, move slider end down for better stack
20:17 Oyatsu: fixed
20:19 Tari: 01:11:468 (2) - Add finish?
20:19 Oyatsu: fixed
20:20 Tari: 01:27:602 (3) - Maybe add whistle to start?
20:21 Oyatsu: fixed
20:22 Tari: 01:35:417 (1) - and whistle to slider end?
20:22 Oyatsu: fixed
20:22 Tari: Ok
20:22 Tari: I finish my mod!
20:22 Tari: :D
20:22 Oyatsu: Go! Post!
20:22 Tari: I will give you star
20:22 Tari: its good map :O
20:22 Oyatsu: Thank you alot for modding ^^

Nice Map and SB~ Shoot Star
Thanks for mod, Tari :)
Xinely
hi ~
Duca daisuki desu <3


  • General and SB
    00:24:577 - lyric in here, use fade out please
    00:53:316 - lyric in here, maybe you can make it rotate for consistency with lyric in 00:52:812 - (i mean like 01:17:266 - :3)
    01:31:132 - in here you must remove the lyrics, it's change lyric.
    title : こころの種 (Kokoro no Tane)


  • Easy
    AR+1?
    00:00:880 (1) - spacing 1,1 here. better if use 1,00x to consistency
    00:11:972 (4) - 2nd anchor point 156,128 to make more branket?
    00:16:006 - add note? feel empty imo
    00:17:518 (2) - clap in end?
    00:20:039 (3) - whistle in here?
    00:22:560 (2) - end in 00:23:064 - ? high vocal in here
    00:29:619 (2) - 1 grid down?
    00:35:669 - give clap in this tick too? just like 00:34:661 -
    00:38:695 (2) - 180,80?
    00:43:737 (4) - make it more branket, http://puu.sh/3E8eJ.jpg
    00:46:762 (3) - 460,304 for better flow?
    00:50:291 (1) - make it http://puu.sh/3E8lR.jpg more better imo
    00:54:829 (3) - don't skip stanza when have vocal,http://puu.sh/3E8o2.jpg
    00:59:871 (3) - 68,264 for better placement?
    01:18:527 (3) - replace whistle in end with finish
    01:27:602 - add note with finish? as long bpm 119, place in center. it will be fine :3
    01:31:636 (4,1) - swap NC, music allow that


  • Normal
    AR+1? HP-1
    00:06:426 (4,5) - as usual don't skip stanza when have vocal, http://puu.sh/3E8XU.jpg
    00:19:031 (4) - just make http://puu.sh/3E910.jpg , blue tick in normal not good idea
    00:30:123 (3) - extend to 00:30:627 - better to follow music here
    00:35:922 (3) - spacing issue (0,94x)
    00:38:190 (2) - clap?
    00:47:518 (2) - i think better if snap in 00:47:770 -
    01:05:417 (1) - 200,324 to easier to catch? if yes 01:05:922 (2) - 120,236
    01:09:955 (2) - ctrl+H better imo
    01:27:602 (1) - finish


  • Hard
    00:01:888 (4) - 1,13 itentional spacing? better if use 1,2 due normal spacing imo
    00:11:720 (6) - this jump, imo better use normal spacing
    00:12:980 (3) - use S:C2 finish?
    00:29:115 (1) - 184,252?
    00:34:913 (6) - huge jump imo? decrease jump?
    00:42:224 (3) - 84,228?
    00:49:031 (5) - 196,172?
    00:49:031 (5) - remove whistle?
    01:21:552 (3) - NC
    01:38:947 (4) - add one repeat with last slider give finish (in 01:39:451 - )
    01:39:451 (1) - start spin in 01:39:577 - (if you follow ^)


  • Insane
    00:02:896 (7) - NC due huge jump?
    00:33:527 (2) - blue tick in here don't have sound, just make like http://puu.sh/3Ea4e.jpg
    00:43:232 (1) - S:C2 finish?
    00:50:795 (5) - NC due spacing change?
    00:55:333 (6,7) - try http://puu.sh/3Ea8f.jpg ? (ps: remove (7) if you follow this)

Good Luck :oops:
Topic Starter
Oyatsu
Xinely
hi ~
Duca daisuki desu <3


  • General and SB
    00:24:577 - lyric in here, use fade out please :arrow: fixed
    00:53:316 - lyric in here, maybe you can make it rotate for consistency with lyric in 00:52:812 - (i mean like 01:17:266 - :3) :arrow: fixed
    01:31:132 - in here you must remove the lyrics, it's change lyric. :arrow: Not, I think that only yea~ = ... ><
    title : こころの種 (Kokoro no Tane) :arrow: fixed


  • Easy
    AR+1? :arrow: fixed
    00:00:880 (1) - spacing 1,1 here. better if use 1,00x to consistency :arrow: fixed
    00:11:972 (4) - 2nd anchor point 156,128 to make more branket? :arrow: fixed
    00:16:006 - add note? feel empty imo :arrow: Nope. I think mine is fine
    00:17:518 (2) - clap in end? :arrow: Nope
    00:20:039 (3) - whistle in here? :arrow: fixed
    00:22:560 (2) - end in 00:23:064 - ? high vocal in here :arrow: fixed
    00:29:619 (2) - 1 grid down? :arrow: fixed
    00:35:669 - give clap in this tick too? just like 00:34:661 - :arrow: I tried but hitsound seems bad ><
    00:38:695 (2) - 180,80? :arrow: 180/84
    00:43:737 (4) - make it more branket, http://puu.sh/3E8eJ.jpg :arrow: fixed
    00:46:762 (3) - 460,304 for better flow? :arrow: fixed
    00:50:291 (1) - make it http://puu.sh/3E8lR.jpg more better imo :arrow: fixed
    00:54:829 (3) - don't skip stanza when have vocal,http://puu.sh/3E8o2.jpg :arrow: fixed
    00:59:871 (3) - 68,264 for better placement? :arrow: I think mine is fine
    01:18:527 (3) - replace whistle in end with finish :arrow: fixed
    01:27:602 - add note with finish? as long bpm 119, place in center. it will be fine :3 :arrow:
    01:31:636 (4,1) - swap NC, music allow that :arrow: nope


  • Normal
    AR+1? HP-1 :arrow: fixed
    00:06:426 (4,5) - as usual don't skip stanza when have vocal, http://puu.sh/3E8XU.jpg :arrow: fixed by my own
    00:19:031 (4) - just make http://puu.sh/3E910.jpg , blue tick in normal not good idea :arrow: fixed
    00:30:123 (3) - extend to 00:30:627 - better to follow music here :arrow: I make as vocal
    00:35:922 (3) - spacing issue (0,94x) :arrow: fixed
    00:38:190 (2) - clap? :arrow: nope
    00:47:518 (2) - i think better if snap in 00:47:770 - :arrow: fixed
    01:05:417 (1) - 200,324 to easier to catch? if yes 01:05:922 (2) - 120,236 :arrow: fixed
    01:09:955 (2) - ctrl+H better imo :arrow: fixed
    01:27:602 (1) - finish :arrow:


  • Hard
    00:01:888 (4) - 1,13 itentional spacing? better if use 1,2 due normal spacing imo :arrow: fixed
    00:11:720 (6) - this jump, imo better use normal spacing :arrow: nope
    00:12:980 (3) - use S:C2 finish? :arrow: Use S1
    00:29:115 (1) - 184,252? :arrow: fixed
    00:34:913 (6) - huge jump imo? decrease jump? :arrow: yes
    00:42:224 (3) - 84,228? :arrow: fixed
    00:49:031 (5) - 196,172? :arrow: fixed
    00:49:031 (5) - remove whistle? :arrow: fixed
    01:21:552 (3) - NC :arrow: Only 2 note/1 color. Ugly
    01:38:947 (4) - add one repeat with last slider give finish (in 01:39:451 - ) :arrow: fixed
    01:39:451 (1) - start spin in 01:39:577 - (if you follow ^) :arrow: fixed


  • Insane
    00:02:896 (7) - NC due huge jump? :arrow: fixed
    00:33:527 (2) - blue tick in here don't have sound, just make like http://puu.sh/3Ea4e.jpg :arrow: I add whistle, I make as intrument
    00:43:232 (1) - S:C2 finish? :arrow: Use S1
    00:50:795 (5) - NC due spacing change? :arrow: In 1 jump change color is ugly. Unchange
    00:55:333 (6,7) - try http://puu.sh/3Ea8f.jpg ? (ps: remove (7) if you follow this) :arrow: I can't jump if make as you

Good Luck :oops:
Thanks for modding, Xinely ^^
scanter
Hi Hi ~

Red = Unrankable or you should fix somethings.
Green = Just chat or General things
Blue = Please consider it. your pattern or something seems to really strange. high level suggestion.

General

  1. The song's title is wrong. actually, this is short version. so, you should change like this.

    your map title wrote:

    Duca - Kokoro no Tane

    Other maps title wrote:

    Duca - Kokoro no Tane (Short Ver.)
  2. If you want more visible your storyboard, I recommend check-on display storyboard in front of combo fire.
  3. Some SB lyrics was wrong IMO. check it plz.
    無邪気に照りける -> 無邪気に照りける
    ただ通りすぎていく -> ただ通りすぎていく時間
  4. How about 気づかない内にボクは こころ枯らしているのかな this object to divide two things? like this. because, this part has an momentary rest time.
    気づかない内にボクは
    こころ枯らしているのかな

Easy

  1. 00:43:737 (4) - Makes more perfect blanket this.
  2. 01:22:560 (1) - Reduce it to white-tick much better. sounds more natural imo when Easy players are play this map.
  3. 01:23:290 - Unsnapped timing point one lol. move to 01:23:316 this point.
  4. 01:39:577 (1) - This spinner will alarm to Easy players. how about put this to at least white-tick? like this.

Normal

  1. Every ticks volume are too low. like 50% much better.
  2. 00:30:123 (3,1) - how about this rhythm? I don't know that which followed sound.
    SPOILER


    120,192,29619,5,2,0:0:0:0:
    140,136,29871,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    200,124,30123,2,0,P|264:132|312:92,1,120,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    256,192,31132,12,8,32644,0:0:0:0:
    372,140,33148,6,0,L|244:148,1,120,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
  3. 01:03:905 (1) - NC is really not needed.

Hard

  1. 00:16:006 (4) - I recommend reduce one repeat and add 1 circle 00:16:510 here. players might confuse this from different sliders tempo.
  2. 00:18:527 (4) - Ctrl + G. this is not good flow.
  3. 00:24:577 (7,8) - How about this rhythm? following vocals much better IMO.
  4. 00:36:174 (3) - makes more blanket this lol
  5. 00:38:190 (4,5,6,7,1) - If you can, how about makes more semi-symmetry? like this.
    SPOILER


    This is code.
    152,80,38190,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    232,216,38443,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    312,80,38695,1,8,0:0:0:0:
    160,168,38947,1,2,0:0:0:0:
    304,168,39199,6,0,P|374:142|400:88,2,120,4|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
  6. 01:03:905 - Add clap? you can hear it.
  7. 01:04:031 - ^
  8. 01:10:459 (4,5) - How about this rhythm? it looks match up vocals and other sound.
  9. 01:30:880 (3) - Anti-jump. Add NC
  10. 01:38:443 (3) - Add finish?
  11. 01:39:577 (1) - Spinners end looks strange. reduce it to white-tick.

Insane

  1. 00:04:031 (3,5,7) - This is overmapping IMO. I don't catch any sound.
  2. 00:25:964 (4,5) - How about this rhythm? following vocals much better. I think, it will more fits about vocal's downbeat sound.
  3. 00:40:964 (8) - Add whistle?
  4. 00:41:090 (9) - Add clap. you can hear it.
  5. 00:49:157 (9) - Delete this circle?
  6. 00:51:048 (6) - Bad overlap. Move to like x:36, y:152 much better for looking and playing.
  7. 00:55:333 (6) - It would be good if you can shape this to mirror 00:54:829 (5)
  8. 00:59:367 (7,8) - Reverse rhythm looks more better for following vocals. like this.
  9. 01:05:795 - Add 1 circle here?
  10. 01:13:989 (3) - Add NC here. players might confuse this jump.
  11. 01:17:518 (1,3) - How about make this to circle shapes? in my opinion, looks really good and more playable.
    SPOILER


    This is code.
    288,324,77518,6,0,P|247:248|288:156,1,180,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    364,144,78274,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    372,342,78527,2,0,P|336:345|288:324,1,90
  12. 01:38:947 (4) - Add NC. a little confusing anti-jump.
That's all ;) nice mapset ~ GL anyway :)
Topic Starter
Oyatsu
scanter
Hi Hi ~

Easy

  1. 00:43:737 (4) - Makes more perfect blanket this. :arrow: I think it perfected
  2. 01:22:560 (1) - Reduce it to white-tick much better. sounds more natural imo when Easy players are play this map. :arrow: fixed
  3. 01:23:290 - Unsnapped timing point one lol. move to 01:23:316 this point. :arrow: I delete it
  4. 01:39:577 (1) - This spinner will alarm to Easy players. how about put this to at least white-tick? like this. :arrow: fixed

Normal

  1. Every ticks volume are too low. like 50% much better. :arrow: fixed
  2. 00:30:123 (3,1) - how about this rhythm? I don't know that which followed sound. :arrow: fixed but I don't use code
    SPOILER


    120,192,29619,5,2,0:0:0:0:
    140,136,29871,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    200,124,30123,2,0,P|264:132|312:92,1,120,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    256,192,31132,12,8,32644,0:0:0:0:
    372,140,33148,6,0,L|244:148,1,120,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
  3. 01:03:905 (1) - NC is really not needed.
:arrow: fixed

Hard

  1. 00:16:006 (4) - I recommend reduce one repeat and add 1 circle 00:16:510 here. players might confuse this from different sliders tempo. :arrow: I think mine is fine
  2. 00:18:527 (4) - Ctrl + G. this is not good flow. :arrow: fixed
  3. 00:24:577 (7,8) - How about this rhythm? following vocals much better IMO. :arrow: Fine but I unchange because my decide
  4. 00:36:174 (3) - makes more blanket this lol :arrow: fixed
  5. 00:38:190 (4,5,6,7,1) - If you can, how about makes more semi-symmetry? like this. :arrow: Nope, It only diffirent me abit
    SPOILER


    This is code.
    152,80,38190,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    232,216,38443,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    312,80,38695,1,8,0:0:0:0:
    160,168,38947,1,2,0:0:0:0:
    304,168,39199,6,0,P|374:142|400:88,2,120,4|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
  6. 01:03:905 - Add clap? you can hear it. :arrow: fixed
  7. 01:04:031 - ^ :arrow: fixed
  8. 01:10:459 (4,5) - How about this rhythm? it looks match up vocals and other sound. :arrow: fix by my way
  9. 01:30:880 (3) - Anti-jump. Add NC :arrow: fixed
  10. 01:38:443 (3) - Add finish? :arrow: fixed
  11. 01:39:577 (1) - Spinners end looks strange. reduce it to white-tick.
:arrow: If at white-tick, rhythm is wrong with intrument

Insane

  1. 00:04:031 (3,5,7) - This is overmapping IMO. I don't catch any sound. :arrow: I will consider this
  2. 00:25:964 (4,5) - How about this rhythm? following vocals much better. I think, it will more fits about vocal's downbeat sound. :arrow: fixed
  3. 00:40:964 (8) - Add whistle? :arrow: fixed
  4. 00:41:090 (9) - Add clap. you can hear it. :arrow: fixed
  5. 00:49:157 (9) - Delete this circle? :arrow: nope
  6. 00:51:048 (6) - Bad overlap. Move to like x:36, y:152 much better for looking and playing. :arrow: fixed
  7. 00:55:333 (6) - It would be good if you can shape this to mirror 00:54:829 (5) :arrow: nope
  8. 00:59:367 (7,8) - Reverse rhythm looks more better for following vocals. like this. :arrow: fixed
  9. 01:05:795 - Add 1 circle here? :arrow: If I add, I won't creat jump
  10. 01:13:989 (3) - Add NC here. players might confuse this jump. :arrow: Yes but 2 circle/1 color. Ugly
  11. 01:17:518 (1,3) - How about make this to circle shapes? in my opinion, looks really good and more playable. :arrow: I don't like it, Sorry
    SPOILER


    This is code.
    288,324,77518,6,0,P|247:248|288:156,1,180,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    364,144,78274,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    372,342,78527,2,0,P|336:345|288:324,1,90
  12. 01:38:947 (4) - Add NC. a little confusing anti-jump. :arrow: fixed
That's all ;) nice mapset ~ GL anyway :)

Thank for mod and star~, scanter-san. Almost fixed. ^^
Loooctav
Sorry Oyatsu! /lazy for mod

EDIT: Delete from me blacklist (Queue if you remember)
Poggo
Hey hey ^^ good map~ I'll try to mod it soon :P
maaagic
Hi, thx M4M
[Insane]
00:27:476 (2) - Move to (158,339)?
00:46:258 (4) - Try this http://puu.sh/3FDXr.jpg
00:59:871 (8) - clap
01:03:653 (9,10,11) - Those note don't fit this song. Try this rhythm. Of course, you can use slider. http://puu.sh/3FE4N
01:18:527 (3) - Move to (360,271)
01:19:535 (1) - Move to (205,122)
01:20:291 (2) - finish?
01:22:560 (4) - finish!
01:30:123 (9) - clap!
01:31:384 - finish!!
01:31:132 (2) - clap!!

[Hard]
00:30:627 - Add Hitsound on slider tick?
00:32:644 (8) - clap
00:40:585 - remove clap and 00:40:711 - add clap
01:31:132 - clap
01:32:140 - clap

[Easy]
01:39:703 (1) - you should move this spinner end at 01:43:737 -

good luck :)
jonathanlfj
Modding upon request~
Duca~ look at my sig xD

Black is suggestion
Blue is highly recommended
Red is unrankable

[General]
you have two .osb files, probably a result of title change; delete the one that is not in use
Great SB! One suggestion though: ask BATs to display the artist/title scroll at 00:08:947, fits nicely with the song and your SB setup
Also Easy/Hard seems to end at 01:43:863 whereas Normal/Insane ends at 01:43:737, you need to end your spinners at the same spot across all diffs

[Easy]
00:22:560 (2) - move this a bit up to form a triangle with 00:20:543 (4,1)
00:43:737 (4) - blanket here can be improved ><
01:22:560 (1) - a perfectly symmetrical slider here would look alot better since its the only object between 2 spinners
01:27:602 (1) - this is too soon after spinner for Easy, either delete this note or shorten the spinner to 01:26:594 to give players more time to react
01:31:636 (5) - NC pattern is kinda messed here, NC is supposed to be on this slider and 01:35:669 (3)
01:38:190 (1) - it would fit the music better if you deleted this note and started 01:38:695 (2) at 01:38:443

[Normal]
00:07:434 (5) - two whistles on this slider sounds quite abrupt, would suggest you to remove one
00:35:165 (2) - should have a S:C2 finish on the start to math the other diffs
00:47:770 (2,3) - this is a bit flow disturbing, move 00:48:022 (3) up for a better oval flow
01:11:972 (4,5) - positioning it like this would look alot better here: 01:28:106 (2,3) - make these align properly, seems to be your intention anyways
01:32:140 (2) - move 1 grid right would make this symmetrical on the y-axis like 01:30:375 (6) (also move everything afterwards 1 grid right and you get a nice symmetry on 01:36:678 (5,6,1,2) as well)

[Hard]
00:04:157 (6) - i expected a whistle on the repeat here to cover the bell sound in the music
00:15:501 (3,4) - these are actually very hard to play, since most players would assume they have the same number of repeats, which is not the case. Remove a repeat on 00:16:006 (4) and construct a 1/2 slider starting at 00:16:510 and ending at 00:16:762, and u can delete the circle there.
00:37:182 (1,2) - try ctrl+g on these two, flows alot better imo
00:40:207 (2) - remove the clap on the end, sounds really weird when heard so close with the clap on 00:40:711 (3)
00:42:728 (4) - forgot a whistle on the end
00:50:543 (2,4) - perfectly stack the two ><
01:03:905 (2,3) - same as 00:15:501 (3,4)
01:11:468 (1) - remove NC to keep consistent with the first part of the kiai

[Insane]
00:18:527 (5,1) - its better if you did a 1/2 slider at 00:18:527 and a 1/1 slider at 00:19:031 to follow the vocals here
00:27:098 (1,2) - stack these properly, the way you have it right now makes the stack look abnormal due to stack leniency in game play
00:34:913 (5,1) - these two sliders should have the same curve according to your placement here
00:49:283 (1) - from here on you should NC every 4/4 measure to prevent combo colours from going past 10
00:50:795 (5,6,7) - these should have the same spacing to mirror the effects of 00:50:039 (2,3,4)
00:59:871 (8) - forgot clap here
01:01:888 (4) - the overheld slider here doesn't make alot of sense since there is no vocal hold present, end it regularly at 01:02:140 to capture the vocal start there
01:04:661 (10,11) - these should have whistles on them to indicate that they are following the pianos instead of the drums, or else they wont make alot of sense when players try to hit them
01:20:291 (2) - add a finish since there is finish in the music (you can reduce the volume for it if you see fit)
01:22:560 (4,5,6,7) - shoudn't this be a spacing increase? seems more reasonable considering your previous spacing changes
01:31:258 - add a note to cover for the drums?
01:38:947 (1,2) - this could easily be misread as 3/4 spacing due to the large jump you did for 01:37:686 (1,2,3) with equivalent distance, a good solution is to add a note at 01:38:695 indicating that the rhythm has changed, or else you should reposition your notes in this section

I wrote up the mod and then i pressed back space by accident orz, what you see is what i can still remember from the top of my head. Please excuse me if some stuff doesnt sound right to you ><

Must say the map/SB is done really well, here is a star and good luck on ranking~
Topic Starter
Oyatsu
maaagic
Hi, thx M4M
[Insane]
00:27:476 (2) - Move to (158,339)? :arrow: fixed
00:46:258 (4) - Try this http://puu.sh/3FDXr.jpg :arrow: I make as vocal
00:59:871 (8) - clap :arrow: yes
01:03:653 (9,10,11) - Those note don't fit this song. Try this rhythm. Of course, you can use slider. http://puu.sh/3FE4N :arrow: I will fix if BAT mod this
01:18:527 (3) - Move to (360,271) :arrow: No need
01:19:535 (1) - Move to (205,122) :arrow: ^
01:20:291 (2) - finish? :arrow: fixed
01:22:560 (4) - finish! :arrow: ^
01:30:123 (9) - clap! :arrow: fixed
01:31:384 - finish!! :arrow: Double finish. I don't like this
01:31:132 (2) - clap!! :arrow: fixed

[Hard]
00:30:627 - Add Hitsound on slider tick? :arrow: This is tick of S2. I don't use it in slidertick. Sorry ><
00:32:644 (8) - clap :arrow: So noisy!!
00:40:585 - remove clap and 00:40:711 - add clap :arrow: fixed
01:31:132 - clap :arrow: fixed
01:32:140 - clap :arrow: fixed

[Easy]
01:39:703 (1) - you should move this spinner end at 01:43:737 - :arrow: ah GOD, ^^ fixed

good luck :)

Thank you for modding :)


jonathanlfj
Modding upon request~
Duca~ look at my sig xD

[Easy]
00:22:560 (2) - move this a bit up to form a triangle with 00:20:543 (4,1) :arrow: fixed
00:43:737 (4) - blanket here can be improved >< :arrow: I think it is fine
01:22:560 (1) - a perfectly symmetrical slider here would look alot better since its the only object between 2 spinners :arrow: I don't understand your mean
01:27:602 (1) - this is too soon after spinner for Easy, either delete this note or shorten the spinner to 01:26:594 to give players more time to react :arrow: Use shorter spin ><
01:31:636 (5) - NC pattern is kinda messed here, NC is supposed to be on this slider and 01:35:669 (3) :arrow: fixed
01:38:190 (1) - it would fit the music better if you deleted this note and started 01:38:695 (2) at 01:38:443 :arrow: fixed

[Normal]
00:07:434 (5) - two whistles on this slider sounds quite abrupt, would suggest you to remove one :arrow: fixed
00:35:165 (2) - should have a S:C2 finish on the start to math the other diffs :arrow: fixed
00:47:770 (2,3) - this is a bit flow disturbing, move 00:48:022 (3) up for a better oval flow :arrow: fixed
01:11:972 (4,5) - positioning it like this would look alot better here: :arrow: fixed
01:28:106 (2,3) - make these align properly, seems to be your intention anyways :arrow: yes
01:32:140 (2) - move 1 grid right would make this symmetrical on the y-axis like 01:30:375 (6) (also move everything afterwards 1 grid right and you get a nice symmetry on 01:36:678 (5,6,1,2) as well) :arrow: fixed

[Hard]
00:04:157 (6) - i expected a whistle on the repeat here to cover the bell sound in the music :arrow: fixed
00:15:501 (3,4) - these are actually very hard to play, since most players would assume they have the same number of repeats, which is not the case. Remove a repeat on 00:16:006 (4) and construct a 1/2 slider starting at 00:16:510 and ending at 00:16:762, and u can delete the circle there. :arrow: fixed
00:37:182 (1,2) - try ctrl+g on these two, flows alot better imo :arrow: fixed
00:40:207 (2) - remove the clap on the end, sounds really weird when heard so close with the clap on 00:40:711 (3) :arrow: fixed
00:42:728 (4) - forgot a whistle on the end :arrow: yes ><
00:50:543 (2,4) - perfectly stack the two >< :arrow: fixed
01:03:905 (2,3) - same as 00:15:501 (3,4) :arrow: fixed
01:11:468 (1) - remove NC to keep consistent with the first part of the kiai :arrow: It isn't fine

[Insane]
00:18:527 (5,1) - its better if you did a 1/2 slider at 00:18:527 and a 1/1 slider at 00:19:031 to follow the vocals here :arrow: fixed
00:27:098 (1,2) - stack these properly, the way you have it right now makes the stack look abnormal due to stack leniency in game play :arrow: fixed
00:34:913 (5,1) - these two sliders should have the same curve according to your placement here :arrow: fixed
00:49:283 (1) - from here on you should NC every 4/4 measure to prevent combo colours from going past 10 :arrow: I don't see problem here
00:50:795 (5,6,7) - these should have the same spacing to mirror the effects of 00:50:039 (2,3,4) :arrow: Nope
00:59:871 (8) - forgot clap here :arrow: fixed
01:01:888 (4) - the overheld slider here doesn't make alot of sense since there is no vocal hold present, end it regularly at 01:02:140 to capture the vocal start there :arrow: nope
01:04:661 (10,11) - these should have whistles on them to indicate that they are following the pianos instead of the drums, or else they wont make alot of sense when players try to hit them :arrow: fixed
01:20:291 (2) - add a finish since there is finish in the music (you can reduce the volume for it if you see fit) :arrow: fixed
01:22:560 (4,5,6,7) - shoudn't this be a spacing increase? seems more reasonable considering your previous spacing changes :arrow: nope
01:31:258 - add a note to cover for the drums? :arrow: Other ask me so but I unchange to jump
01:38:947 (1,2) - this could easily be misread as 3/4 spacing due to the large jump you did for 01:37:686 (1,2,3) with equivalent distance, a good solution is to add a note at 01:38:695 indicating that the rhythm has changed, or else you should reposition your notes in this section :arrow: Move to center

I wrote up the mod and then i pressed back space by accident orz, what you see is what i can still remember from the top of my head. Please excuse me if some stuff doesnt sound right to you ><

Must say the map/SB is done really well, here is a star and good luck on ranking~
Gloria Guard
Hi. m4m


[General]

Fine imo


[Easy]

00:00:880 (1,2,3,4) I don't understand this rhythm. because this rhythm is unsuited
also easy players this part rhythm is confuse imo, so i suggestion this part rhythm.
00:06:930 (2,3,4) Hmm.. why you used this rhythm here? it's really awkward imo.
i think this rhythm more improve here, so i recommend rhythm.
00:16:006 why you don't add note, i'm hear this part drum sound, i think need note imo
00:30:627 (3) I suggestion this slider rhythm, 1/4 slider remove 1/2 slider add?
i think hear lyrics rhythm here, and 00:31:384 (1) this spinner move 00:31:006 is better.
00:53:821 (2) add note, I'm hear too drum sound, also i feel empty here.
01:22:560 (1) This slider shape balance is bad, you change this slider shape.
01:09:955 This too 00:53:821 is same.


[Normal]


00:01:132 remove note. it's players really coufuse and it's unnecessary.
00:07:812 (1) Why spinner here? i don't understand this spinner.. it's really short and beginner players
confuse imo. remove spinner and add long slider or add note please.
00:35:669 (2,3,4) Hmm.. this pattern is bad flow... here you change flow.
00:54:577 (2,3,4) Here the rhythm you are using is not appropriate, i suggestion this rhythm.
01:04:913 (8,1) This too 002:224 same.
01:38:947 (3) One more repeat this slider? if you change 01:39:703 this spinner move 01:39:577 here


[Hard]

You have many used anti-jump, example 00:02:140 (4,1) and 00:04:919 (6,1) and 00:11:720
The parts used are too big distance. also 00:14:93 (4,5) and 00:34:157 (2,3,4,5,6)
If you play the two jumps do you read it?, In my opinion, the jump part of the player is likely to be confused.
This difficulty is not insane, this diff is hard, I hope you understand

00:04:661 (6,1) This jump pattern really big spacing. you decrease this spacing.. it's really big jump.
00:11:720 (5,6) This too, why you used this part big jump here? please this jump decrease spacing.
00:14:745 (4,5) ^
00:50:795 (2,4) This stack more improve imo.
01:1385 (1,2,3) This does not fit the rhythm because i playing this rhythm can't read, i suggest this rhythm.


[Insane]

00:21:552 (2,3,4) I suggestion this rhythm.
01:04:031 (9,10,11) i don't understand this rhythm, this rhythm really is not suitable
it's players only confuse here, i suggestion rhythm.






Good luck.


Edit : OMG.. post bug shit.. if you don't understand part, pm me please.
Topic Starter
Oyatsu
Gloria Guard
Hi. m4m


[General]

Fine imo


[Easy]

00:00:880 (1,2,3,4) I don't understand this rhythm. because this rhythm is unsuited :arrow: Nice!
also easy players this part rhythm is confuse imo, so i suggestion this part rhythm.
00:06:930 (2,3,4) Hmm.. why you used this rhythm here? it's really awkward imo. :arrow: I prefer mine
i think this rhythm more improve here, so i recommend rhythm.
00:16:006 why you don't add note, i'm hear this part drum sound, i think need note imo :arrow: Rhythm is unsuitable when I add note, so empty
00:30:627 (3) I suggestion this slider rhythm, 1/4 slider remove 1/2 slider add? :arrow: Don't understand @@
i think hear lyrics rhythm here, and 00:31:384 (1) this spinner move 00:31:006 is better. :arrow: fixed by my way
00:53:821 (2) add note, I'm hear too drum sound, also i feel empty here. :arrow: Need empty to break abit, I think so
01:22:560 (1) This slider shape balance is bad, you change this slider shape. :arrow: fixed
01:09:955 This too 00:53:821 is same. :arrow: The same ><


[Normal]


00:01:132 remove note. it's players really coufuse and it's unnecessary. :arrow: Sorry I keep
00:07:812 (1) Why spinner here? i don't understand this spinner.. it's really short and beginner players
confuse imo. remove spinner and add long slider or add note please. :arrow: Will consider when BAT mods
00:35:669 (2,3,4) Hmm.. this pattern is bad flow... here you change flow. :arrow: you copy false link but I can understand. Fixed
00:54:577 (2,3,4) Here the rhythm you are using is not appropriate, i suggestion this rhythm. :arrow: Keep. Sorry
01:04:913 (8,1) This too 002:224 same. :arrow: It is fine, I think
01:38:947 (3) One more repeat this slider? if you change 01:39:703 this spinner move 01:39:577 here :arrow: Not


[Hard]

You have many used anti-jump, example 00:02:140 (4,1) and 00:04:919 (6,1) and 00:11:720 :arrow:
The parts used are too big distance. also 00:14:93 (4,5) and 00:34:157 (2,3,4,5,6)
If you play the two jumps do you read it?, In my opinion, the jump part of the player is likely to be confused.
This difficulty is not insane, this diff is hard, I hope you understand

00:04:661 (6,1) This jump pattern really big spacing. you decrease this spacing.. it's really big jump. :arrow: fixed
00:11:720 (5,6) This too, why you used this part big jump here? please this jump decrease spacing. :arrow: A jump and a break afterward. Keep
00:14:745 (4,5) ^ :arrow: Some other hard I see it. I keep
00:50:795 (2,4) This stack more improve imo. :arrow: fixed
01:1385 (1,2,3) This does not fit the rhythm because i playing this rhythm can't read, i suggest this rhythm. :arrow: But I can read =w=


[Insane]

00:21:552 (2,3,4) I suggestion this rhythm. :arrow: fixed
01:04:031 (9,10,11) i don't understand this rhythm, this rhythm really is not suitable :arrow: I keep. Sorry ><
it's players only confuse here, i suggestion rhythm.






Good luck.


Edit : OMG.. post bug shit.. if you don't understand part, pm me please.

Thank for modding, Glogu-chan >< :)
eniyan
hi
from me queoe ;)

[Easy]

The place that you should fix is not found.

[Normal]

The place that you should fix is not found.

[Hard]

  1. 00:19:031 (5,6,7,8,9) -I felt sense of incongruity for those relations, distance of 5 and 6,6 and 7,7 and 8, 8 and 9.
    Because it is half-done, i suggest that you make the same distance.
  1. 01:11:468 (1,2,3) - Because distance is near though a timing is long, it is hard to swat it.
    I suggest that make it in this way.
    ↓First, i moved a position of 01:10:711 (5)
    ↓Next,i moved it to put a position of 01:11:846 (2) on 01:10:711 (5) .Finally i alined 01:12:224 (3) .
[Insane]

  1. 00:16:006 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - fix the flow
  1. 01:21:552 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - -I felt sense of incongruity for those relations, distance of 1 and 2,2 and ......3 and 4, 4 and 5.lol
    Because it is half-done, i suggest that you make the same distance.
sorry i can't found many place you should fix :(

i love this map <3

i shoot kudosu star!
Topic Starter
Oyatsu

EnixYuki wrote:

[Hard]

  1. 00:19:031 (5,6,7,8,9) -I felt sense of incongruity for those relations, distance of 5 and 6,6 and 7,7 and 8, 8 and 9.
    Because it is half-done, i suggest that you make the same distance. :arrow: 1 way to increase distance. Maybe this I learn from Gloria Guard ><
  1. 01:11:468 (1,2,3) - Because distance is near though a timing is long, it is hard to swat it. :arrow: I understand your way but it is also quite hard to jump. SOrry Unchange
    I suggest that make it in this way.
    ↓First, i moved a position of 01:10:711 (5)
    ↓Next,i moved it to put a position of 01:11:846 (2) on 01:10:711 (5) .Finally i alined 01:12:224 (3) .
[Insane]

  1. 00:16:006 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - fix the flow
:arrow: Nothing, I think they are fine
  1. 01:21:552 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - -I felt sense of incongruity for those relations, distance of 1 and 2,2 and ......3 and 4, 4 and 5.lol
    Because it is half-done, i suggest that you make the same distance.
:arrow: Increase distance as I said.

sorry i can't found many place you should fix :(

i love this map <3

i shoot kudosu star!
Thank for your advise. Although I unchange but also thank for star~ ^^
riffy
Yo.

[Storyboard]
Well.. Some things that I've noticed about your SB. It's really nice, but you can make it even better!
  1. First of all, there's only one thing that really bugs me. In "compose" tab and during testplay/gameplay there's a white line in the right edge of screen. This line is flashing and it's really annoying sometimes. 01:09:577 - here's the screenshot. But it happens a lot, test your map and you'll see it.
  2. Try to make fade effect for SB/FG/9 a bit longer. It disappears too fast an dit doesn't look really nice. I thing it's better if you start fading on 99451 (01:39:451)

    It looks really good. Hope to see more of your works soon.
[General]
  1. Are you sure that epilepsy warning is needed here? I'd disable it because there's no any strobing effects!
[Easy]
  1. 00:00:880 (1,3) - nazi - this overlap is not visible during gameplay, but it flows a bit strange. What if we'll try to make blanket slider with (2). It's still the same symmetrical and well-spaced pattern, but it flows much better!
  2. Start all spinners in this diff 1/2 later. So, beginners will have some time to prepare for spinners and it'll fit with music better! Try it!
  3. 01:36:174 (2,1) - I don't really like gap between these two beats. It's different from your regular rhythm, so it may confuse beginners. So, I've changeed rhythm here for you, here's the screenshot.
    Note: what exactly is changed? 01:37:182 - (2) ends here + 01:37:686 - 1/2 slider + 01:38:443 - 1/2 slider with repeat

    Good job!
[Normal]
  1. Set OD/HP to 4 to get better balanced diff spread. It will fit with your patterns much better. Try it in action, and I promise - you'll like it!
  2. 00:27:602 (5,1) - nazi - blanket here could be a little bit better. It's not a big deal, but I think you should do it!
    Note: feel free to poke me if you want code for any of my suggestions! I'll be happy to provide you with this codes
  3. 00:54:577 (3) - Instead of this sldier, we can make something that will represent music much better. try 1/2 slider with repeat. It'll help you to emphasize clap sound and vocals!
  4. 01:05:922 (2,3) - these sliders are cute, but that overlap confuses me a bit. You don't use such patterns often, so it looks a little bit strange. What if we'll try to make a blanket slider? :) example!
  5. 01:37:686 (1,2,3) - some of loud beats are ignored, and some quite ones are mapped. It sounds kinda weird to me, so I strongly recommend you to use Ctrl+G for 01:37:686 (1,2)
    Note: don't forget to fix spacing and hitsounds if you agree!

    Rhythm in the end confused me but overall diff is fine.
[Hard]
  1. 00:19:535 - How about making this tick a little bit louder. It'll fit better with vocals. Anyway, try it before saying "no"!
    Note: 00:25:837 - same. Well, it happens some more times. I think you can fix such patterns yourself, if you agree.
  2. 00:19:031 (5) - 00:31:132 (4) - have you missed New Combos here? It sounds like you should place NCs here to emphasize vocals/music changes and to make comboing more consistent!
  3. 01:02:392 (3,4) - blankets are a bit messy and DS is strange. It's too low for jump and too big for regular spacing. If you want, make spacing more consistent. So, it'll look like this
  4. 01:38:695 - consider mapping this beat to get more consistent and enjoyable rhythm. It sounds kinda empty without it.
[Insane]
  1. Try to use consistent spacing for all 1/4 patterns. It'll help us to read/understand your patterns better + it looks much neater.
  2. 00:04:535 (7) - this circle feels more like overmap. I'd recommend you to remove it, but it's up to you.

    Nothing else. Nice diff. Well, just one more thing..think about using AR9, it'd fit better with your pattern.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Good luck!
BeatofIke
Hello Oyatsu! BeatofIke here and mod request via in-game! :3

[General]
  1. Why do you have 2 .osb files? You only need one! :P Go to File > Open Song Folder and remove the usused .osb file. I would keep a back-up in case you removed the wrong one.
  2. Optional, but you could add "Cuffs" in your tags since the game was published and developed by them.
  3. About the storyboard, I didn't witness any repetitive strobes or flashes. Therefore, it is not necessary to display epilepsy warning. I would disable it as it is not needed!
    Maps that use repetitive strobes, pulsing images, or flashing colors in the storyboard must use the epilepsy warning. There is one built-into the editor, which will display a visual warning at the beginning of the map and also mark the map's online thumbnail with a warning icon. Also, it helps to make a note of the flashing/strobes/etc. in the map's thread. This warning is absolutely needed so that players with epilepsy can avoid any danger.
[Easy]
  1. 00:15:501 (3) - The rhythm feels empty with the hit circle alone. I recommend to turn this hit circle into a 1/1 slider (ending at 00:16:006) to complete the rhythm/musical section.
  2. 00:22:560 (2,3) - For better readability, I would recommend to rearrange the notes like this as it has better polarity:
  3. 01:18:527 (3,1) - Optional, but I think it would be better if you remove the spinner and map this part, since it's still part of the kiai section. How about rearranging the patterns like this? If suggested, add a new combo on slider 5 and remove the combo on the next note.
  4. 01:36:174 (2,1) - Comparing to the music rhythm, I would recommend to rearrange the rhythm like this:
Feedback: The main thing I noticed in this map is the excellent hitsounding and storybording. With a little rearranging here and there, I think it will be ready for ranking!

[Normal]
  1. I would increase the Overall difficulty to 4 or 5 for a more competitive gameplay.
  2. 00:36:174 (4) - I believe you forgot to add the soft-whistle here as you added one on your Easy difficulty.
  3. 00:53:821 (2,3,4) - Personally, I would rearrange this rhythm like this as it fits better with the music.
  4. 01:18:022 (2) - Optional, but you could improve the curve of this slider shape. Here is an example:
    Image and Code

    200,168,78022,2,0,B|112:136|112:204|24:168,2,180,8|0|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
  5. 01:31:636 (1,2) - This combo is too short lol. For an alternative, I would remove the combo at 01:34:157 and add a new combo at 01:35:669.
Feedback: Again, excellent hitsounding. Keep up the good work! :3

[Hard]
  1. 00:47:644 (3,4) - The slider pattern could be improved. Her is an example:
    Image and Code

    348,156,47644,2,0,P|324:96|336:44,1,120,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    404,72,48274,2,0,P|336:40|256:56,1,160,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
  2. 01:13:737 (2,3) - Eh, I do not understand this rhythm. What part of the music are you following? A better way to fix this is to simply replace the first slider with 2 hit circles. Seems like you are trying to follow the vocal lines, so I would recommend to rearrange the notes similar to this.
  3. 01:22:812 (7) - This slider is offbeat due to the slider reverse and it's techincally unrankable. A good way to fix this is to replace this with a 1/2 reverse slider instead. It goes well with the vocal lines as well, so I would recommend it.
Feedback: Good map, but there were a few offbeat sliders here and there. The map has decent flow, but it could be improved with a few more quality mods. Hitsounds didn't let me down yet! :3

[Insane]
  1. 00:16:006 (5,6) - Nothing major, but this spacing between these notes is inconsistent (0.9x spacing). Change the spacing to 0.5x.
  2. 00:49:157 (9) - I would remove this note, since there are no instrument playing here.
  3. 01:37:434 (7) - Consider adding a note here to finish the rhythm. The rhythm feels incomplete without it.
Feedback: Hitsounds, you pass! Similar to Hard, the maps has decent flow and a few overmapped sections. In addition, the blanklets could use some improvement as well. Good luck! :3

osu! needs more Duca! Good luck with your map! :D
Topic Starter
Oyatsu
-Bakari-
Yo.
[Easy]
  1. 00:00:880 (1,3) - nazi - this overlap is not visible during gameplay, but it flows a bit strange. What if we'll try to make blanket slider with (2). It's still the same symmetrical and well-spaced pattern, but it flows much better! :arrow: fixed
  2. Start all spinners in this diff 1/2 later. So, beginners will have some time to prepare for spinners and it'll fit with music better! Try it! :arrow: ??
  3. 01:36:174 (2,1) - I don't really like gap between these two beats. It's different from your regular rhythm, so it may confuse beginners. So, I've changeed rhythm here for you, here's the screenshot. :arrow: Use too many 1/2 rhythm will hard for newbie. I think so so, I keep
    Note: what exactly is changed? 01:37:182 - (2) ends here + 01:37:686 - 1/2 slider + 01:38:443 - 1/2 slider with repeat :arrow: ^ Keep

    Good job!
[Normal]
  1. Set OD/HP to 4 to get better balanced diff spread. It will fit with your patterns much better. Try it in action, and I promise - you'll like it! :arrow: HP 4, OD 3. Too hard for newbie with 4 OD
  2. 00:27:602 (5,1) - nazi - blanket here could be a little bit better. It's not a big deal, but I think you should do it! :arrow: I think it is blanketed. Sorry
    Note: feel free to poke me if you want code for any of my suggestions! I'll be happy to provide you with this codes
  3. 00:54:577 (3) - Instead of this sldier, we can make something that will represent music much better. try 1/2 slider with repeat. It'll help you to emphasize clap sound and vocals! :arrow: It is a my plan. Sorry
  4. 01:05:922 (2,3) - these sliders are cute, but that overlap confuses me a bit. You don't use such patterns often, so it looks a little bit strange. What if we'll try to make a blanket slider? :) example! :arrow: Nope. I prefer mine
  5. 01:37:686 (1,2,3) - some of loud beats are ignored, and some quite ones are mapped. It sounds kinda weird to me, so I strongly recommend you to use Ctrl+G for 01:37:686 (1,2) :arrow: fixed
    Note: don't forget to fix spacing and hitsounds if you agree!

    Rhythm in the end confused me but overall diff is fine.
[Hard]
  1. 00:19:535 - How about making this tick a little bit louder. It'll fit better with vocals. Anyway, try it before saying "no"! :arrow: I tried but sorry I don't agree for you way. :(
    Note: 00:25:837 - same. Well, it happens some more times. I think you can fix such patterns yourself, if you agree.
  2. 00:19:031 (5) - 00:31:132 (4) - have you missed New Combos here? It sounds like you should place NCs here to emphasize vocals/music changes and to make comboing more consistent! :arrow: fixed
  3. 01:02:392 (3,4) - blankets are a bit messy and DS is strange. It's too low for jump and too big for regular spacing. If you want, make spacing more consistent. So, it'll look like this :arrow: fixed
  4. 01:38:695 - consider mapping this beat to get more consistent and enjoyable rhythm. It sounds kinda empty without it.
:arrow: I make as instruemtn. Keep

[Insane]
  1. Try to use consistent spacing for all 1/4 patterns. It'll help us to read/understand your patterns better + it looks much neater. :arrow:
  2. 00:04:535 (7) - this circle feels more like overmap. I'd recommend you to remove it, but it's up to you. :arrow: Nope

    Nothing else. Nice diff. Well, just one more thing..think about using AR9, it'd fit better with your pattern. :arrow: I think AR 8 better
Thank for mod Bakari ^^




SPOILER
Hello Oyatsu! BeatofIke here and mod request via in-game! :3

[Easy]
  1. 00:15:501 (3) - The rhythm feels empty with the hit circle alone. I recommend to turn this hit circle into a 1/1 slider (ending at 00:16:006) to complete the rhythm/musical section. :arrow: Nope
  2. 00:22:560 (2,3) - For better readability, I would recommend to rearrange the notes like this as it has better polarity: :arrow: I prefer mine
  3. 01:18:527 (3,1) - Optional, but I think it would be better if you remove the spinner and map this part, since it's still part of the kiai section. How about rearranging the patterns like this? If suggested, add a new combo on slider 5 and remove the combo on the next note. :arrow: Sorry I creat spin to disincrease to play
  4. 01:36:174 (2,1) - Comparing to the music rhythm, I would recommend to rearrange the rhythm like this: :arrow: fixed
Feedback: The main thing I noticed in this map is the excellent hitsounding and storybording. With a little rearranging here and there, I think it will be ready for ranking!

[Normal]
  1. I would increase the Overall difficulty to 4 or 5 for a more competitive gameplay. :arrow: I will consider if BAT says this
  2. 00:36:174 (4) - I believe you forgot to add the soft-whistle here as you added one on your Easy difficulty. :arrow: ah yes you right
  3. 00:53:821 (2,3,4) - Personally, I would rearrange this rhythm like this as it fits better with the music. :arrow: fixed
  4. 01:18:022 (2) - Optional, but you could improve the curve of this slider shape. Here is an example: :arrow: fixed my own

    200,168,78022,2,0,B|112:136|112:204|24:168,2,180,8|0|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
  5. 01:31:636 (1,2) - This combo is too short lol. For an alternative, I would remove the combo at 01:34:157 and add a new combo at 01:35:669.
:arrow: fixed
Feedback: Again, excellent hitsounding. Keep up the good work! :3

[Hard]
  1. 00:47:644 (3,4) - The slider pattern could be improved. Her is an example: :arrow: Really fine but maybe you forget about distance @@
    Image and Code

    348,156,47644,2,0,P|324:96|336:44,1,120,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    404,72,48274,2,0,P|336:40|256:56,1,160,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
  2. 01:13:737 (2,3) - Eh, I do not understand this rhythm. What part of the music are you following? A better way to fix this is to simply replace the first slider with 2 hit circles. Seems like you are trying to follow the vocal lines, so I would recommend to rearrange the notes similar to this. :arrow:I make as vocal. Right as you say. Sorry
  3. 01:22:812 (7) - This slider is offbeat due to the slider reverse and it's techincally unrankable. A good way to fix this is to replace this with a 1/2 reverse slider instead. It goes well with the vocal lines as well, so I would recommend it.
:arrow: fixed
Feedback: Good map, but there were a few offbeat sliders here and there. The map has decent flow, but it could be improved with a few more quality mods. Hitsounds didn't let me down yet! :3

[Insane]
  1. 00:16:006 (5,6) - Nothing major, but this spacing between these notes is inconsistent (0.9x spacing). Change the spacing to 0.5x. :arrow: fixed
  2. 00:49:157 (9) - I would remove this note, since there are no instrument playing here. :arrow: Modder say me that but I still keep sorry
  3. 01:37:434 (7) - Consider adding a note here to finish the rhythm. The rhythm feels incomplete without it.
:arrow: Nope
Feedback: Hitsounds, you pass! Similar to Hard, the maps has decent flow and a few overmapped sections. In addition, the blanklets could use some improvement as well. Good luck! :3

osu! needs more Duca! Good luck with your map! :D
:?

Thank for mod ^^, Beato
HelloSCV
from my queue

Easy

00:30:627 (3) - missed clap

Normal

00:39:199 - SC:2 finish is needed for consistence (and you added finish here on other diffs)
01:16:510 (6) - whistle on start
01:22:056 (1) - finish?

Hard

00:15:501 (3,4,5) - no claps are purpsed?
00:32:644 (5) - ^
00:34:409 (4,1) - this slider arrow is hidden even default skin is changed :/
01:04:409 (3,4) - need claps (if you fix 00:15:501 (3,4,5) - this)
01:30:880 (1) - delete NC and 01:31:888 (3) - add NC here
[/no tice]

[notice]Insane

00:07:686 (1) - this NC isn't need imo
00:19:409 (2) - i think moving this note to 00:19:535 (2) - here is better? (or at least make 3/4 slider)
00:35:417 (6) - NC and 00:35:669 (1) - delete NC
00:49:031 (8) - maybe need clap
01:03:401 (8,9) - reverse rhythm?
01:04:661 (10,11) - is this rhythm intentional? but i think this rhythm fits better http://puu.sh/3HTkQ.jpg
01:10:459 (1) - delete NC (for consistnece)
01:19:031 (4,1) - stack perfectly? -nazi


nice SBs lol Good luck~
Topic Starter
Oyatsu

HelloSCV wrote:

from my queue

Easy

00:30:627 (3) - missed clap :arrow: fixed

Normal

00:39:199 - SC:2 finish is needed for consistence (and you added finish here on other diffs) :arrow: ah yes
01:16:510 (6) - whistle on start :arrow: fixed
01:22:056 (1) - finish? :arrow: yes at end

Hard

00:15:501 (3,4,5) - no claps are purpsed? :arrow: nope
00:32:644 (5) - ^ :arrow: ^
00:34:409 (4,1) - this slider arrow is hidden even default skin is changed :/ :arrow: I don't think so
01:04:409 (3,4) - need claps (if you fix 00:15:501 (3,4,5) - this) :arrow: nope
01:30:880 (1) - delete NC and 01:31:888 (3) - add NC here :arrow: 1 anti-jump. I keep sorry

Insane

00:07:686 (1) - this NC isn't need imo :arrow: fixed
00:19:409 (2) - i think moving this note to 00:19:535 (2) - here is better? (or at least make 3/4 slider) :arrow: I make as vocal
00:35:417 (6) - NC and 00:35:669 (1) - delete NC :arrow: fixed
00:49:031 (8) - maybe need clap :arrow: fixed
01:03:401 (8,9) - reverse rhythm? :arrow: nope
01:04:661 (10,11) - is this rhythm intentional? but i think this rhythm fits better http://puu.sh/3HTkQ.jpg :arrow: I don't think so
01:10:459 (1) - delete NC (for consistnece) :arrow: ok
01:19:031 (4,1) - stack perfectly? -nazi :arrow: yes


nice SBs lol Good luck~
Thank you for modding :D
xChippy
IRC modded this =w=
Topic Starter
Oyatsu
For you =w=
IRC mod
13:51 Oyatsu: Can I ask a IRC mod?
13:51 Oyatsu: now?
13:51 Oyatsu: please
13:51 xChippy: okay =w=
13:51 Oyatsu: duca ^^
13:51 xChippy: but it's morning some may be wrong
13:51 xChippy: just awoke =w=
13:51 Oyatsu: ?
13:54 Oyatsu: @@
13:56 *xChippy is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/274696 Duca - Kokoro no Tane (Short Ver.) [Easy]]
13:56 xChippy: 00:00:880 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - this section
13:56 Oyatsu: ?
13:56 xChippy: you have whistle on third white
13:56 xChippy: 00:01:888 (2) - so switch whistles?
13:56 xChippy: move end whistle to head
13:57 Oyatsu: fixed
13:59 xChippy: 00:22:056 (1) - this here
13:59 xChippy: whistle maybe?
14:00 xChippy: you have it here 00:20:039 (3) -
14:00 Oyatsu: ah
14:00 Oyatsu: @@
14:00 Oyatsu: remove whislte (3)
14:00 Oyatsu: ok, continue
14:01 xChippy: okay =w=
14:02 xChippy: 00:20:543 (4,1) - uuhm switch NC o-o?
14:02 Oyatsu: ?
14:02 xChippy: 00:20:543 (1) - here NC
14:03 xChippy: 00:20:543 (4) -
14:03 xChippy: 00:22:056 (5) - not here
14:03 xChippy: ?
14:03 Oyatsu: I think it is fine
14:03 Oyatsu: I make as vocal
14:03 Oyatsu: I keep, sorry ><
14:03 xChippy: vocal start at end tho o-o
14:03 xChippy: but well =w=
14:03 Oyatsu: that is a late NC
14:03 Oyatsu: ><
14:04 xChippy: ?
14:04 Oyatsu: continue, =w=
14:09 Oyatsu: ie~?
14:09 xChippy: I'm looking =w=
14:09 Oyatsu: =w=
14:10 xChippy: very good easy =w=
14:10 Oyatsu: =w=
14:10 Oyatsu: normal, continue?
14:10 xChippy: yep
14:10 *Oyatsu is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/274699 Duca - Kokoro no Tane (Short Ver.) [Normal]]
14:12 xChippy: 00:07:434 (5) - Whistle doesn't fit Imo o-o
14:12 xChippy: since beginning is whistle 1 and 3rd white
14:12 xChippy: maybe add end o-o?
14:13 Oyatsu: fixed
14:14 xChippy: 00:09:955 (1,2) - err isn't this blanket a little off o-o?
14:14 xChippy: 00:10:964 (2) - this end need to move more to the right
14:14 Oyatsu: fixed
14:17 xChippy: 00:13:485 (2,3) - same as above o-o
14:17 xChippy: blanket little off
14:17 xChippy: let the approach circle help you to make blanket
14:18 Oyatsu: fixed
14:20 xChippy: not sure about this one =w=
14:20 xChippy: 00:23:064 (5) -
14:20 xChippy: Sound is really powerfull here maybe change to finish>?
14:21 Oyatsu: fixed
14:22 xChippy: 00:38:190 (2) - whistle?
14:22 Oyatsu: fixed
14:25 xChippy: 01:28:358 (3) - whistle at end o-o?
14:25 Oyatsu: fixed =w=
14:27 xChippy: make them aligh
14:27 xChippy: 01:37:686 (1,2) -
14:27 xChippy: align*
14:27 xChippy: than fix distance of (3)
14:28 Oyatsu: fixed
14:28 xChippy: maybe add note here with finish 01:39:451 and start spinner at blue tick?
14:28 xChippy: 01:39:451
14:29 Oyatsu: not
14:29 Oyatsu: I also make that in Easy ><
14:29 xChippy: okay =w=
14:31 xChippy: 01:11:972 (4) - stack end with 01:09:955 (2) -
14:31 Oyatsu: fixed
14:32 xChippy: 01:12:980 (5) - after that fix move this to 378|119
14:32 xChippy: for distance balance
14:32 xChippy: =w=
14:32 Oyatsu: fixed my own
14:32 Oyatsu: =w=
14:32 xChippy: =w=
14:33 xChippy: ok hard =w=
14:33 xChippy: oh w8 =w=
14:33 *Oyatsu is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/274697 Duca - Kokoro no Tane (Short Ver.) [Hard]]
14:34 xChippy: wait I have to go to toilet =w=
14:34 Oyatsu: =w=
14:40 xChippy: okay =w=
14:40 xChippy: oh w8 have to help father one sec =w=
14:41 Oyatsu: w8?
14:42 xChippy: ok =w=
14:44 xChippy: 00:04:157 (6) - blanket little off
14:44 xChippy: move end point
14:44 xChippy: to left =w=
14:44 Oyatsu: fixed
14:45 xChippy: 00:02:140 (5) - remove NC here and add NC 00:03:148 (7) - o-o?
14:47 Oyatsu: I will consider this after
14:47 Oyatsu: ><
14:49 xChippy: ok :3
14:49 xChippy: 00:09:703 (2) - whistle?
14:50 xChippy: oh w8 nvm
14:50 xChippy: =w=
14:50 Oyatsu: fixed
14:56 xChippy: 00:47:644 (3) - looks off o-o
14:56 xChippy: try 348|156
14:56 Oyatsu: ?
14:56 Oyatsu: it is 348/156?
14:57 xChippy: oh w8 =w=
14:57 xChippy: looked wrong slider
14:57 xChippy: I mean move 00:48:274 (4) -
14:58 xChippy: 405|108 maybe?
14:58 Oyatsu: i thnk it is fine
14:58 Oyatsu: think*
14:58 Oyatsu: sorry kepp ><
14:58 Oyatsu: heep*
14:58 Oyatsu: keep*
14:58 xChippy: lol =w=
14:59 xChippy: 00:50:543 (2) - stack end with (4)
15:00 xChippy: 00:51:300 (4,5) - blanket is off
15:01 Oyatsu: fixed
15:02 xChippy: 00:57:728 (3) - move end point a little so it curls around 00:56:846 (7) -
15:04 Oyatsu: fixed
15:06 xChippy: 01:09:829 (3,5) - err this blanket is off
15:07 Oyatsu: `I don't have plan to make it blanket
15:07 Oyatsu: hehe =w=
15:08 xChippy: ooh =w=
15:09 xChippy: 01:31:132 (2,3) - this blanket =w=
15:09 xChippy: (2) end move it
15:09 xChippy: =w=
15:10 Oyatsu: yes ^^
15:12 xChippy: rest is ok =w=
15:12 Oyatsu: ok
15:12 Oyatsu: @@
15:12 xChippy: now insane =w=
15:12 xChippy: first testplay =w=
15:14 xChippy: srry bad playing it's morning =w=
15:15 xChippy: I'm sleepy xD
15:15 Oyatsu: 16:15?
15:15 Oyatsu: Why morning?
15:15 xChippy: 10:12
15:15 Oyatsu: I see your time on your panel
15:15 Oyatsu: it is 16:15
15:15 Oyatsu: =w=
15:15 xChippy: o-o
15:16 xChippy: seriously o-o
15:16 xChippy: oh yea =w=
15:16 xChippy: I'm using chinese computer
15:16 xChippy: xD
15:16 Oyatsu: ?
15:16 xChippy: it has hong kong time =w=
15:16 xChippy: I'm using chinese PC
15:16 xChippy: so it has chinese time =w=
15:16 Oyatsu: now
15:17 Oyatsu: you are in China?
15:17 xChippy: now in europe
15:17 Oyatsu: oh
15:19 xChippy: orz =w=
15:19 xChippy: ok back to mod =w=
15:19 Oyatsu: ok
15:19 xChippy: 00:07:686 (7) - center this
15:20 Oyatsu: nope
15:20 xChippy: looks better tho =w=
15:21 xChippy: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/885406
15:21 xChippy: well ok =w=
15:21 Oyatsu: ah
15:21 Oyatsu: fixed
15:21 Oyatsu: =w=
15:21 xChippy: =w=
15:22 xChippy: I'm blanket monster =w=
15:22 xChippy: 00:14:493 (7,1) -
15:22 xChippy: move (1) end point
15:22 Oyatsu: monster =w=
15:22 xChippy: =w=
15:22 Oyatsu: fixed
15:23 Oyatsu: you are blanket monster and whistle hitsoung =w=
15:23 Oyatsu: hitsound*
15:23 xChippy: =w=
15:23 xChippy: not much to say soo.. i go nazi =w=
15:25 xChippy: Wooo nazi 00:24:325 (3) - move 1 grid left to stack with (1)
15:26 Oyatsu: I want overlap ><
15:26 xChippy: okay =w=
15:30 xChippy: =w=
15:30 xChippy: not much to say =w=
15:30 Oyatsu: hehe
15:31 Oyatsu: I'm a pro mapper =w=
15:31 xChippy: =w=
15:32 Oyatsu: let post
15:32 xChippy: 01:15:501 (6) - whisle head
Thank you~
Satellite



Nothing to Say.really good diff


AR+1 ?
01:20:039 (3,4,1,2,3) - You like this? more beautiful.
180,288,80039,2,0,P|220:328|280:332,1,120,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,268,81048,2,0,P|399:213|374:159,1,120,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,108,82056,6,0,P|208:120|173:169,1,120,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,229,82812,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,288,83064,1,8,0:0:0:0:
01:37:686 (1,2,3) - More better rhythm,follow with lyrics,like this.



00:04:913 (1) - Move x264 y188 try this.
00:06:174 (5) - 00:06:426 - here add whistle
00:24:577 (7,8) - try this. my suggestion.
236,184,24577,1,8,0:0:0:0:
324,260,24829,2,0,P|336:216|324:168,1,80,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
00:38:190 (4) - add whistle
01:01:888 (2) - end point add whistle?
01:37:686 (1,2,3,4) - you like this?



00:09:199 (1) - remove note?
00:10:207 - 00:14:745 - 00:42:224 - add whistle
00:19:409 (2,3) - slider follow better?

01:03:401 (8) - add Nc
01:29:619 (8) - ^


Topic Starter
Oyatsu

Satellite wrote:




Nothing to Say.really good diff


AR+1 ? :arrow: this is a calm song. I think +4 for normal is fine
01:20:039 (3,4,1,2,3) - You like this? more beautiful. :arrow: fixed. Thank for code ^^
180,288,80039,2,0,P|220:328|280:332,1,120,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,268,81048,2,0,P|399:213|374:159,1,120,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,108,82056,6,0,P|208:120|173:169,1,120,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,229,82812,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,288,83064,1,8,0:0:0:0:
01:37:686 (1,2,3) - More better rhythm,follow with lyrics,like this. :arrow: fixed



00:04:913 (1) - Move x264 y188 try this. :arrow: fixed
00:06:174 (5) - 00:06:426 - here add whistle :arrow: fixed
00:24:577 (7,8) - try this. my suggestion. :arrow: Nice
236,184,24577,1,8,0:0:0:0:
324,260,24829,2,0,P|336:216|324:168,1,80,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
00:38:190 (4) - add whistle :arrow: fixed
01:01:888 (2) - end point add whistle? :arrow: fixed
01:37:686 (1,2,3,4) - you like this? :arrow: fixed



00:09:199 (1) - remove note? :arrow: Nope
00:10:207 - 00:14:745 - 00:42:224 - add whistle :arrow: fixed
00:19:409 (2,3) - slider follow better? :arrow: fixed

01:03:401 (8) - add Nc :arrow: yea ><
01:29:619 (8) - ^ :arrow: fixed


Good luck star~ :)
Maybe All fixed. Thank for useful mod, Sate-san :)
Heanday
Hi, from ask in game :'d


General : Guud !

UHh, i write it here, cause, hmm more easy to read ! For this note => 01:22:560 (6) - In easy you have finish / In normal Just whistle / In hard just Finish / Insane Finish + clap ! Choice one but you need to be constant
Btw for this part i suggest 01:22:308 (5) - + 5% volume / +5% / then back volume

[Easy]

00:34:157 (1) - the tickrate you used for clap is a bit loud imo, try -10%
Wow, this dif is perfect imo, so just nazi stuff

01:11:972 (4) - This one up red & last point to y : 316, then replace it a bit, symetry & perfect blanket

Good dif, good job

[Normal]

Well, by test play, in my opinion start by a circle is a bit weird since we don't have music before and it's low AR, so hard to know where we suposed to start. Try to start by a slider please, exept it, you're dif have a good flow, it's funny to play !

00:27:602 (5) - I suggest to clap the tickrate after revers ( like you did in easy dif )

Well that's all for this one, cool dif too


[Hard]

00:15:501 (3,4,5) - Add clap at early slid ?
00:25:585 (2) - Change the curve for a better flow ? http://puu.sh/3QVzc.jpg
00:32:644 (5) - Early revers need a clap imo
01:02:392 (3) - For this one it's a bit confused, i suggest to just snap it ( when i played i clicked too early cause i suspected 1/4 rythm ) i suggest to moove this one top a bit for save you're patern
01:04:409 (3) - c'mon this one need same clap than the previous
01:04:913 (4) - early slid clap ?
that's all !

[Insane]

00:10:711 (5) - Change curve ? ( deja vue ) :'d
01:03:653 (2) - I dislike this rythme, just remake this rythme 00:16:006 (5,6,7,8,9) -
01:14:493 (5) - I don't understand this rythm too, i don't know what the revers hit follow, btw, if you won't change, just clap the tickrate after revers
01:20:291 (2) - this one is a bit loud imo

Gl !
Wafu
Black - Suggestion
Blue - Highly recommended to fix
Red - Unrankable

[General]

Fixed some issues in .osb file (Inconsistency, not finished fades etc.) Duca - Kokoro no Tane (Short Ver.) (Oyatsu).osb
Increase volume at Kiai time on 70~80%. It's important to make volume of hitsounds and whole map's consistent so you hear both the same, but I hear only clap hitsounds here, but not normal hits.

It's not unrankable, but should be. Artist is: デュッカ and romanised artist: Duca. I'm 100% sure.
Source should be CAFE SOURIRE as says its official website. If you want to know if I'm sure, here's screen. I know other beatmaps has "Cafe Sourire", but official sources are just always 100% sure.
00:51:804 - Using soft-hitclap2 is kinda unnecessary on all the difficutlies at kiai time it totally doesn't fit the music.
Use your soft-slidertick2 more often on places like these:
  1. 00:30:375
  2. 00:39:703
  3. 00:53:821
  4. 00:54:829
  5. 01:12:980
  6. 01:13:989
  7. 01:17:014
  8. 01:32:140
  9. 01:35:922
(I've written places from hard, there are some more on easier diffs, you should know which I mean, if not, call me and I will find them all), but please, this is think which I really want to see fixed so consider it and I will be happy.

[Insane]

00:04:031 (3,4,5,6,7) - This stream is unsymmetrical. I think it should be consistent with slider's shape so try these coordinates:
  1. 00:04:031 (3) - 322;153
  2. 00:04:157 (4) - 343;144
  3. 00:04:283 (5) - 365;141
  4. 00:04:409 (6) - 387;143
  5. 00:04:535 (7) - 408;151
00:02:896 (1) - CTRL+G to fix flow break. Jump from 00:02:896 (1) to 00:03:653 (2) has better way after this and jump from 00:01:888 (5) to 00:02:896 (1) forces you to make unnatural movement, so it's bad flow.
00:15:501 (2,3,4) - You've used different snap than other streams have while you're following the same sound. Try this:
  1. 00:15:501 (2) - 123;135
  2. 00:15:627 (3) - 138;118
  3. 00:15:753 (4) - 153;101
Btw. Angle is consistent with 00:14:493 (7) so it also makes symmetrical pattern.
00:19:031 (1) - 1/4 Slider sounds strange here. 1/3 slider fits better since it follows piano better.
SPOILER
[/spolierbox]
00:27:098 (1,2) - Move 1's end on 158;338 and 2's start on the same place for perfect stack. It's bad when you see such a weird overlap when you play.
00:32:644 (4,5,6,7) - As I said before, you're following the same instrument, but you change the snap, so it's nosense. Use 0.5 DS again.
00:38:695 (4) - CTRL+G to fix really critical flow break. It fixes 2 flow breaks in a row so CTRL+G is imo best solution. If you don't understand I can eplain ingame.
00:40:711 (6,7,8,9,1) - Same stream issue which I've explained before.

00:53:695 (3) - Linear shape doesn't follow next slider well so it's bad flow. Maybe try this way.
[spoilerbox]
01:20:543 (3) - CTRL+H, CTRL+J, CTRL+G and move on 153;219 to fix flow issue.

Nice Insane, a bit overmapped, but still it's nice to play.

[Hard]

00:48:274 (4) - CTRL+H, CTRL+J, CTRL+ G and move on 401;89 to fix flow break.. Don't worry about DS. Flow > DS
00:57:728 (3) - Move its end on 283;294 to make better blanket with 00:56:846 (7)

I think I don't have to say anything at these 3 diffs. They're just nice, but if you fix issue in normal about slider ticks, I will like them even more.

[Normal]

00:09:955 (1) - I don't think this is good idea. It will confuse newbies because they'll have tendence to start on 00:09:451 because there is a drum sound. I'd move it there and add a note on 00:10:459
01:07:434 (3) - Fix the overlap by moving on 39;196. I know of DS, it's okay.
01:29:115 (4) - It looks way better when they're exactly above themselves, just try how it looks when you move it on 200;183

[Easy]

00:38:695 (2) - Move this note on 189;124 to make perfect blanket with previous slider.
00:43:737 (4) - Move center point on 132;189. Same reason as ^.
00:50:291 (1) - Same problem as normal

Really nice map. Good luck with ranking.
Topic Starter
Oyatsu
Thank you for you guys. I'm lazy to reply. Sorry if you hope I reply >< :x
wring
Hi from your req

Easy

00:08:443 - add note? or 00:07:434 (4) - one more repeat this? seemed there have a sound.
00:23:821 (3) - I know what you want to follow. But it's a little strange because other objects are put constantly. So, how about start from 00:23:569 - or add note there and shorten (3) slider?
00:40:459 - use SC2 as 00:39:703 -
01:38:695 - ^?

Normal

00:06:174 (3) - whistle?
00:07:434 (5) - use one circle on this? It seemed that 1/8 slider is a little strange.
00:47:770 (2) - whistle?
01:27:602 (1) - How about this rythem?
Hard

AR-1?
00:19:031 (1) - change to this form? 00:29:871 (3) - How about this rythem? 00:46:762 (4) - move to x:232 y:272?
01:07:812 - add note?
01:21:552 (3) - clap on finish

Insane

00:01:384 (3) - remove whistle
00:01:636 (4) - whistle
00:02:644 (6) - How about change to 1/16 slider to follow the melody?
00:14:997 (1) - lengthen (1) to 00:15:375 -
00:20:543 (4,5,6) - I think shouldn't be stack here, so move to x472 y:248?
00:38:190 (3) - How about this form? 01:20:291 (2) - switch to whistle?
01:21:552 (1) - same as Hard
01:39:073 (2) - add one more repeat seems better for me.

good luck
Topic Starter
Oyatsu
Thank for mod, wring-san. Fixed some stuffs :D
abalee
[General]
does the song have "(Short Ver.)" in the title? if not, suggest to delete it.

[Insane]
01:03:401 (1,2,3,4) -
suggest change to this patten. you might need to add hitsound.


[Hard]
00:20:039 (2,3,4) - no jump please, i thought it's 3/4 when first play. :(
Topic Starter
Oyatsu

abalee wrote:

[General]
does the song have "(Short Ver.)" in the title? if not, suggest to delete it. :arrow: fixed

[Insane]
01:03:401 (1,2,3,4) -
suggest change to this patten. you might need to add hitsound. :arrow: fixed


[Hard]
00:20:039 (2,3,4) - no jump please, i thought it's 3/4 when first play. :( :arrow: fixed
Thank for modding :D
11t
Hello! Drive-by modding~

[Insane]
I can't find anything wrong with this map. That's a good thing, right? So I'll just shower you with compliments instead, okay?

00:03:653 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - This is the point where I realized, wow, you must be a professional mapper. I pulled out my wallet and started tossing bills at the screen, because I'd pay you to map like this not really I'm poor sorry Skeptics at this point might yell, "OVERMAPPED" but not me. I believe in you.

00:16:006 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - I really like the spacing on your streams. But um, this might just be me, maybe I'm blind, idk, but I think the start of this stream (the 5-circle) isn't placed on the stream curve. I think the positioning is off a bit, slightly too far up. pleasedonthurtme

00:18:527 (5) - Nice hitsound.

00:36:678 (4,1,2,3,4) - I'm really amazed at how well your sliders interact with one another. You utilize so many different spacings here but the sliders all seem to fit together so perfectly.

00:46:762 (5,1) - The corner is the perfect spot for this stack. I don't think it could have worked anywhere else.

00:49:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Hnnnnng accelerated spacing into repeat slider. This is like, my osu-fetish.

00:53:316 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I love this combo, especially towards the end. The central jump (9,10,11) just completes it so well. Also your sliders have really, really nice curves. You arrange those gentle slopes in such a beautiful way. Er, please don't take that the wrong way.

01:03:401 (1,2,3) - The pieces here fit together so well. Like Legos. Or Tetris.

01:07:182 (6,7,8) - What is this called? There has to be a name for this specific kind of slider/hitcircle placement. Because it's just awesome. I'll call it the Oyatsu-Central-Slider-Stack-Jump from now on, until someone corrects me.

01:10:459 (6) - Let me just say that I love you for not stacking the beginning of this slider onto the 3-circle in this combo. Most mappers would be like omigosh, DISTANCE SNAP and slap it right on top of the 3-circle. But not you. <3

01:30:375 (3,1) - Okay, so about that last comment I made about the stack in the corner, and how it couldn't have worked anywhere else on the screen? I lied. Because somehow you managed to pull it off here as well. Somehow everything you do is fantastic. You're fantastic. Did anyone ever tell you that you're fantastic?

[Hard]
This is a very enjoyable map! I usually don't have this much fun playing through a map that isn't of 5-star difficulty. Your arrangement of map elements is aesthetically stunning, which, combined with your high degree of skill (or perhaps supreme intuition) at placing jumps, makes for extremely satisfying play.

01:11:468 (1,2,3) - It might be a good idea to arrange this in a way that isn't as linear. The vocal rhythm here gives you a lot of room to maneuver with your jumps, and linearity here is a bit boring in my opinion. Maybe this is the perfect opportunity to sneak in your patented Oyatsu-Central-Slider-Stack-Jump...?!

01:31:132 (2,3,4) - This plays somewhat awkwardly for me. I think it's the positioning of the long slider following the somewhat unexpected (in terms of the vocal rhythm) repeat slider. Another thing that I think is an issue is the skipped downbeat in the middle of the long slider, which is followed by a hitcircle after only 1/2 of a beat. I think that skipping over the downbeat here causes the player to expect a longer delay following the slider release. I can't really explain it too well I guess, but for me this section is just a bit strange.

[Normal]
Approach Rate up to 5 (+1). AR4 is much too slow; and in fact seems to make the timings a lot harder to read. There's just too much going on on the screen at one time with AR4. AR5 fixes this issue of information overload, imo.

00:51:300 (4,5) - I think you should space these two out a bit more. The long slider here prepares the player for a jump, should you choose to execute one, and it just so happens that the music would fit perfectly should you decide to execute a jump here (transition of focus from vocal melody to percussive elements, ex. open hi-hat into snare). That is to say, maybe you should make this a jump.

01:08:695 (4) - As above. In this difficulty, you seem to have chosen to stick with a single distance snap. Your jumps in Insane were so beautiful! Why not try and replicate some of that same beauty here, for newer osu players to enjoy?

[Easy]
Like with Insane, I don't see any issues here. But I mean, there's always very little room for error when you're dealing with a class of difficulty whose maps consist of 95% white ticks...

So I hope you'll forgive me for going a bit light on the compliments on this one, ahaha...

00:00:880 to 01:39:451 - Excellent work!

[General]
Overall, this is very incredible mapping! You now have +1 adoring fans. Here I normally wish the mapper good luck in getting their map ranked, but you're not really gonna need that, so I'll just wish future modders good luck in finding anything to mod about.

Thank you for letting me play through your maps, Oyatsu-of-the-Heavenly-Jump. OTL
Topic Starter
Oyatsu
THat is a mod? I don't really think. Fixed a stuff in Hard >:(
Leorda
Hi there

[General]
* There are 2 OSBs in this beatmap folder, remove the wrong one


[Normal]
00:07:434 (5) - Move to X:380 and Y:28 for better flow. Because the tail slider will lead to (5) if you move them and the path of flow wouldn't be off
00:47:266 (1) - Remove new combo for your combo pattern?


[Hard]
00:42:224 (3) - Reverse this section to create an oval flow


[Insane]
00:03:653 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - Since this is a calm part, I don't think the stream would be fit in here... Consider to make another pattern
01:03:401 (1) - Remove new combo for your combo pattern?


Good luck
Topic Starter
Oyatsu

Leorda wrote:

Hi there

[General]
* There are 2 OSBs in this beatmap folder, remove the wrong one


[Normal]
00:07:434 (5) - Move to X:380 and Y:28 for better flow. Because the tail slider will lead to (5) if you move them and the path of flow wouldn't be off
00:47:266 (1) - Remove new combo for your combo pattern?


[Hard]
00:42:224 (3) - Reverse this section to create an oval flow


[Insane]
00:03:653 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - Since this is a calm part, I don't think the stream would be fit in here... Consider to make another pattern
01:03:401 (1) - Remove new combo for your combo pattern?


Good luck
All fixed. Thank you for modding, Leorda :D
winber1
Just a lot of suggestions and opinions.

Insane

  1. 00:10:333 - adding a note here sounds better imo.
  2. 00:17:770 (3,4) - Perhaps follow vocals more here. http://puu.sh/48yBI.jpg
  3. 00:24:577 (4,1) - This jump is unfitting imo. In fact, I hesitated a bit to even consider this a jump while I was playing, but at the last second I realized it was a jump. You should decrease the spacing of this jump imo.
  4. 00:29:367 (2) - perhaps consider turning this into a triplet. (I only suggest this because you have the bass/guitar sound on the blue tick which isn't mapped currently).
  5. 00:34:157 (3,4) - I would swithc these two notes around rhyhtmically http://puu.sh/48yOY.jpg so that the main beat at 00:34:661 - is a hitcircle.
  6. 00:38:695 (4) - I would turn this into a slider and a hitcircle http://puu.sh/48yTv.jpg (also 00:39:199 - should be a new combo and 00:39:451 - should not have a combo)
  7. 00:45:753 (3) - imo this sliders works better if it ended at 00:46:132 -
  8. 00:46:258 (4) - Consider turning this into a repeat slider or a triplet to follow drums.
  9. 00:51:300 (7) - meh instead of using the the slider tick, it's more comfortable to do this imo http://puu.sh/48z13.jpg
  10. 00:55:333 (6) - Perhaps try this or something similar http://puu.sh/48z3G.jpg (you will need to rearrange some other notes to do so)
  11. 01:01:888 (4) - Better if this slider ended at 01:02:140 - imo to follow vocals
  12. 01:05:417 - This whole kiai you seem to just ignore the vocals half the time and you follow some drum beat. Reading-wise there's not problem, but I think you should pay a little more attention to the vocals. For instance, I do not think 01:14:493 (5) - is necessary. This note 01:08:190 - could be mapped. And this 01:09:199 (1,2,3,4) - could match a little more imo. THere are some things that work fine. For instacne, I think 01:11:720 (2,3,4,5) - works fine. But in general I think you should consider the vocals a little more. Just my opinion though.
  13. 01:17:518 (1) - The vocal note ends at 01:17:896 - (you should probably shorten this slider by 1/4 tick and then add a hitcircle or slider after it imo)
  14. 01:39:451 (1) - just my opinion but I think you should put a note here and start the spinner 1/4 tick later ._.
One thing that bothers me a bit is the fact that numerous times, you use a slider end to land on the main beat. 01:31:384 (3) - , 01:07:182 (6) - and etc. Those are just two examples. THere are many other times you do this. This is not a bad technique by any means. I am not trying to tell you it's bad, but I'm saying that it's overused in my opinion. I believe that this should be used less frequently and done on more special occasions for a reason. In this map, I don't see a clear reason for you to need to end the sliders this way. If you disagree with this, feel free to ignore it.

Hard

  1. 00:01:888 (4,1) - This jumps doesn't make sense since 00:02:140 (1) - is not some main/emphasized beat. You shouldn't have it here. Also the fact that 00:02:140 (1,2) - is on a syncopated beat (you need to click off of the main beat) is slightly weird.
  2. 00:10:964 (5) - You could consider doing something like http://puu.sh/48zG9.jpg (the jump between combo 5 and 6 I felt was too large as well imo).
  3. 00:43:989 (2,3) - http://puu.sh/48zOr.jpg something like this matche sthe music better (as stated in insane, a lot of the times using a slider end for a main beat just doesn't make sense all the time. THis is a case where that is true in my opinion.)
  4. 00:59:367 (1,2,3) - I would space this evenly. doesn't seem to be a need to do this
  5. 01:13:485 (1,2) - awkward to play. This rhythm is more sensible imo http://puu.sh/48zVl.jpg
Biggest issue I have with this map is the spacing. You are spacing this like the insane map but the only difference is that there are less notes, which doesn't seem to make much sense to me. Jumps are fine, but you need to have a more restricted distance snapping imo rather than putting jumps just because you feel like it or to make certain patterns. The reason I say this is because the Insane diff was already extremely easy, thus there is no reason to make this Hard difficulty harder with these jumps. Also, because of this spacing, it makes things like 01:33:653 (1,2,3,4) - 00:22:560 (4,5,6) - and 01:11:468 (1,2,3) - harder to read, especially with lower AR.

Another thing is that it widens the difficulty gap as well between Normal and Hard. The difficulty gap is not bad (it's perfectly fine and rankable imo, but it could be better)

Normal

  1. 00:01:132 (2,3) - Switch notes around http://puu.sh/48AaD.jpg
  2. 00:07:434 (5) - COnsider doing something like this http://puu.sh/48AfO.jpg
  3. 00:10:207 - add note?
  4. 00:46:510 - add note?
  5. 00:47:266 (5,6) - I actually think it is okay to do this http://puu.sh/48AmJ.jpg It follows the music better, and it should not cause that much confusion for the player.
In the context of this map, I think this is fine, The rhythm for the most part makes sense too. However, in the context of the mapset, this Normal is a little too easy imo. You seem extremely afraid to place too many notes. As I said above, the difficulty gap might be a little big, but rankable. I believe you can place a few more notes and add a few more complex patterns rather than use mostly 1/1 and 1/2 ticks. It's just something to think about (I'm not saying you need to remap it D:)

Easy

  1. 00:06:426 (3,4) - try this? http://puu.sh/48Ayj.jpg
  2. 00:53:821 - add note. I don't see a reason not to. It's not like there are too many notes. I also think it flows better. Alternatively you could also turn 00:53:316 (1) - into a slider that ends at 00:53:821 -
  3. 01:09:955 - ^

Don't be intimidated with all the suggestions. I just point a lot of things out, but it doesn't mean the mapset is bad or anything :<
However, I still would like to wait a bit before doing anything too hasty. I might come back later to check.

Also, generally you shouldn't ask for bubble. If I believe it can be bubbled, I will decide after modding :S
Topic Starter
Oyatsu
winber1
Just a lot of suggestions and opinions.

Insane

  1. 00:10:333 - adding a note here sounds better imo. :arrow: added
  2. 00:17:770 (3,4) - Perhaps follow vocals more here. http://puu.sh/48yBI.jpg :arrow: fixed
  3. 00:24:577 (4,1) - This jump is unfitting imo. In fact, I hesitated a bit to even consider this a jump while I was playing, but at the last second I realized it was a jump. You should decrease the spacing of this jump imo. :arrow: ok
  4. 00:29:367 (2) - perhaps consider turning this into a triplet. (I only suggest this because you have the bass/guitar sound on the blue tick which isn't mapped currently). :arrow: fixed
  5. 00:34:157 (3,4) - I would swithc these two notes around rhyhtmically http://puu.sh/48yOY.jpg so that the main beat at 00:34:661 - is a hitcircle. :arrow: ok
  6. 00:38:695 (4) - I would turn this into a slider and a hitcircle http://puu.sh/48yTv.jpg (also 00:39:199 - should be a new combo and 00:39:451 - should not have a combo) :arrow: ok
  7. 00:45:753 (3) - imo this sliders works better if it ended at 00:46:132 - :arrow: fixed
  8. 00:46:258 (4) - Consider turning this into a repeat slider or a triplet to follow drums. :arrow: I keep, i think it is fine
  9. 00:51:300 (7) - meh instead of using the the slider tick, it's more comfortable to do this imo http://puu.sh/48z13.jpg :arrow: ok
  10. 00:55:333 (6) - Perhaps try this or something similar http://puu.sh/48z3G.jpg (you will need to rearrange some other notes to do so) :arrow: ok
  11. 01:01:888 (4) - Better if this slider ended at 01:02:140 - imo to follow vocals :arrow: ok
  12. 01:05:417 - This whole kiai you seem to just ignore the vocals half the time and you follow some drum beat. Reading-wise there's not problem, but I think you should pay a little more attention to the vocals. For instance, I do not think 01:14:493 (5) - is necessary. This note 01:08:190 - could be mapped. And this 01:09:199 (1,2,3,4) - could match a little more imo. THere are some things that work fine. For instacne, I think 01:11:720 (2,3,4,5) - works fine. But in general I think you should consider the vocals a little more. Just my opinion though. :arrow: fixed somthing
  13. 01:17:518 (1) - The vocal note ends at 01:17:896 - (you should probably shorten this slider by 1/4 tick and then add a hitcircle or slider after it imo) :arrow: ok
  14. 01:39:451 (1) - just my opinion but I think you should put a note here and start the spinner 1/4 tick later ._. :arrow: oh
One thing that bothers me a bit is the fact that numerous times, you use a slider end to land on the main beat. 01:31:384 (3) - , 01:07:182 (6) - and etc. Those are just two examples. THere are many other times you do this. This is not a bad technique by any means. I am not trying to tell you it's bad, but I'm saying that it's overused in my opinion. I believe that this should be used less frequently and done on more special occasions for a reason. In this map, I don't see a clear reason for you to need to end the sliders this way. If you disagree with this, feel free to ignore it.

Hard

  1. 00:01:888 (4,1) - This jumps doesn't make sense since 00:02:140 (1) - is not some main/emphasized beat. You shouldn't have it here. Also the fact that 00:02:140 (1,2) - is on a syncopated beat (you need to click off of the main beat) is slightly weird. :arrow: fixed sonething
  2. 00:10:964 (5) - You could consider doing something like http://puu.sh/48zG9.jpg (the jump between combo 5 and 6 I felt was too large as well imo). :arrow: ok
  3. 00:43:989 (2,3) - http://puu.sh/48zOr.jpg something like this matche sthe music better (as stated in insane, a lot of the times using a slider end for a main beat just doesn't make sense all the time. THis is a case where that is true in my opinion.) :arrow: oh
  4. 00:59:367 (1,2,3) - I would space this evenly. doesn't seem to be a need to do this :arrow: ok
  5. 01:13:485 (1,2) - awkward to play. This rhythm is more sensible imo http://puu.sh/48zVl.jpg :arrow: yea ><
Biggest issue I have with this map is the spacing. You are spacing this like the insane map but the only difference is that there are less notes, which doesn't seem to make much sense to me. Jumps are fine, but you need to have a more restricted distance snapping imo rather than putting jumps just because you feel like it or to make certain patterns. The reason I say this is because the Insane diff was already extremely easy, thus there is no reason to make this Hard difficulty harder with these jumps. Also, because of this spacing, it makes things like 01:33:653 (1,2,3,4) - 00:22:560 (4,5,6) - and 01:11:468 (1,2,3) - harder to read, especially with lower AR.

Another thing is that it widens the difficulty gap as well between Normal and Hard. The difficulty gap is not bad (it's perfectly fine and rankable imo, but it could be better)

Normal

  1. 00:01:132 (2,3) - Switch notes around http://puu.sh/48AaD.jpg :arrow: ok
  2. 00:07:434 (5) - COnsider doing something like this http://puu.sh/48AfO.jpg :arrow: fixed my own
  3. 00:10:207 - add note? :arrow: I think not add note is also fine
  4. 00:46:510 - add note? :arrow: I didn't hear 1 word vocal appear here ><
  5. 00:47:266 (5,6) - I actually think it is okay to do this http://puu.sh/48AmJ.jpg It follows the music better, and it should not cause that much confusion for the player :arrow: fixed my own.
In the context of this map, I think this is fine, The rhythm for the most part makes sense too. However, in the context of the mapset, this Normal is a little too easy imo. You seem extremely afraid to place too many notes. As I said above, the difficulty gap might be a little big, but rankable. I believe you can place a few more notes and add a few more complex patterns rather than use mostly 1/1 and 1/2 ticks. It's just something to think about (I'm not saying you need to remap it D:)

Easy

  1. 00:06:426 (3,4) - try this? http://puu.sh/48Ayj.jpg :arrow: ok
  2. 00:53:821 - add note. I don't see a reason not to. It's not like there are too many notes. I also think it flows better. Alternatively you could also turn 00:53:316 (1) - into a slider that ends at 00:53:821 - ok, fixed 2nd way
  3. 01:09:955 - ^ :arrow: ok

Don't be intimidated with all the suggestions. I just point a lot of things out, but it doesn't mean the mapset is bad or anything :<
However, I still would like to wait a bit before doing anything too hasty. I might come back later to check.

Also, generally you shouldn't ask for bubble. If I believe it can be bubbled, I will decide after modding :S

THank you for useful mod :D
Totoro
iCo's mod is here~

[General]

Nice Song&Mapset :) Star~

Nothing much to find o.o

[Easy]

00:43:737 (4) - make a better blanket

[Normal]

00:07:308 (5) - I don't think blue ping in normal is rankable... not too sure

[Hard]

Nothing to find. Nice diff

[Insane]

00:05:291 (3,4) - make a better blanket

00:56:342 (3,4,5,6) - make these jumps neater. They look scattered
Topic Starter
Oyatsu
No fix anything but thank you for star ><
UnitedWeSin
THE TIME HAS COME!

I'm going to be strict with your mapping because I see a lot of great potential and I want to help you improve it.

[General]

  1. Quite sure the artist "Duca" does not need to be written in Japanese unicode. Try typing "デュッカ" into Google, you will get strange results that have nothing to do with the artist. Replace "デュッカ" with "Duca".
  2. Really really nice SB!
[Insane]

  1. 00:05:165 (2,3) - A bit unnatural jump to the 2 here imo. Try moving the 2,3 more downwards and placing them more inside the curve given from the 00:04:661 (1). Try like this:
  2. 00:06:426 (5,6) - Small spacing doesn't feel so great imo, you have less than 1.0 spacing here. You could try increasing the spacing and also making a nicer blanket. It will play better after the 4-5 jump. Also make sure to make the 00:05:291 (3,4) blanket and the 00:06:426 (5,6) the same for a consistent pattern here.
  3. 00:17:896 (4,5,1,2) - Looks a bit sloppy. More spacing is nicer here, try moving the 00:19:031 (1,2) - more downwards and to the right so that the slider tail of 00:19:031 (1) is the same spacing from the spacing from the 00:17:896 (4) that the 5 is. Like this:
  4. 00:33:022 (7) - Clap missing perhaps?
  5. 00:55:333 (1,2) - Move to (324,328) is nicer for more spacing and to make the blanket nice. Don't forget to move the 00:56:342 (3,4,5,6) also.
  6. 01:03:905 - When you're using a slidertick hitsound in an Insane diff to accent something important in the music, chances are your rhythm is not very good and is ignoring what's important in the song. Here I suggest that you remove the repeat from the 8 and to add a small stream after it. This way you will start following the drum transition when it's starting in the music instead of after it has started. You could also use a 1/4 slider with a repeat if you wanted. Also a NC on the 8 is great here, the combo gets a little bit long anyways. Here's what I mean:
  7. 01:04:787 (10,11,1) - It would be nice to have larger spacing here. When you have a pattern that increases spacing like 01:04:409 (9,10), you should continue that idea until the next downbeat or tension release. The 01:04:409 (9,10) and the spacing increase is following the drum transition in the music, which is building up tension in anticipation for the finish (downbeat) at 01:05:417. That's why when you decrease spacing like you do at 01:04:787 (10,11,1) before the downbeat, it feels really not so great. You can follow the music better by having similar spacing to the 11 that you do between the two 1/4 sliders, and then a jump and NC to the 1.
    Take 00:50:039 (2,3,4,5,6,1) for example, see how you follow the increased spacing idea until the downbeat? That plays really nicely.
  8. 01:23:569 (1) - Clap on the end is nice.
  9. 01:23:064 (7) - Try replacing with a 1/4 repeating slider instead to better follow the percussion here.
  10. 01:29:619 (1) - Try extending the slider by 1/4 here, seems to follow the music quite well.
  11. 01:30:880 (1,2,3) - My large complaint here is that this super important beat at 01:31:636 falls on the end of the slider and is not stressed. What that does is make your map feel distanct from the music because we aren't moving and clicking along with important aspects of the song. Look at the setup that you have in the hard diff. That is the kind of thing that you want here. Try this sort of rhythm:
    Image

    A triplet at 01:31:132 fits the music perfectly and then a jump into the slider 1.
    I have similar complaints with sliders like 01:07:182 (1) although that one is not as bad. On the end of that slider, the vocals start a new idea, so it makes the entire section feel awkward to play imo. You could try arranging as you see fit.
  12. 01:31:384 (3,4,5,6) - You have such small spacing here even though these are some of the most accented beats in the song. A jump to the slider 01:32:392 (6) is fantastic because of the loud finish hit on its head.
  13. 01:14:997 (6,7,1) - Since the vocals really increase in intensity here, you could try increasing spacing, which might play better especially after the jump pattern at 01:13:485 (1,2,3,4) when the vocals were more relaxed.
  14. 01:19:535 (1,2,3) - Since the vocals are holding here, try instead following the background music by shortening the 1 by 1/4 and adding a circle, then delete 2 and more the 3 1/2 earlier like this:
    Image

    You could have a nice blanketing jump to the 3 perhaps.
  15. 01:38:947 (4,5) - Unstack them? It fits better with the 01:37:686 (1,2,3) pattern and plays nicer imo. Try it see if you agree.
I'd like you to work more on this. Take these points here into consideration and work more on matching your spacing and rhythm to the music. Lots of times in this map you use smaller spacing for more intense portions of the song and it makes the map feel less that amazing.

[Hard]

  1. 00:03:148 (3,4) - This is alright here, just note that it's not really following anything in the music since the vocals are completely different here than they were at 00:01:132 (2,3). It would be better if you had a slider at 00:02:896 with a repeat on the blue tick, just like at 00:06:930 (6).
  2. 00:15:501 (3,4,5) - Missing claps here I suppose.
  3. 00:22:560 (4) - Clap on head.
  4. 00:23:064 (5,1) - Switch NC makes more sense to me to follow vocals.
  5. 00:24:577 (2) - Since we were following vocals with the 00:23:064 (5,6,1) I'd rather you not have this large jump here. It's a bit surprising. Instead I'd like if you would follow vocals with a rhythm like so:
  6. 00:27:854 (6) - The repeat is not following anything in the song and is missing the vocal hit at 00:28:358. I'd like it if you would extend the slider by 1/2. That or shorten it by 1/2 if you don't want to miss out on the clap.
  7. 00:32:644 (5) - Clap on the head and on the end is nice to follow the music here.
  8. 01:04:409 (3) - Clap on first repeat.
  9. 01:33:653 (1,2,3) - Try increasing spacing to make the rhythm more obvious and to avoid the overlap with the 01:32:896 (6).
  10. 01:39:199 (4) - Missing clap on head I suppose.
Pretty nice diff.

[Normal]

  1. 00:00:880 (1,2) - I think it's a confusing way to start the map. I'd prefer that you combine these into one slider.
  2. 00:06:426 (4,5) - The 5 being on the blue tick is a bit weird and it's difficult for the player to even notice the difference in spacing from previous notes. I highly suggest changing the rhythm before this so that you could have a repeating slider here. The idea is this:
    Image

    Circle at 00:06:426 and then slider starting at 00:06:930. Also move the spinner to the right 1/4 tick.
  3. 00:16:006 - I'd like you to remove the slider tick hitsound from this spot. After the finish at 00:15:753 this clap is really noisy. It's just too much noise and may confuse the player. Also the clap at 00:16:006 is much softer than the one at 00:15:501 so it's fine not to have it hitsounded here imo.
  4. 00:27:602 (5) - I think you can make a more intuitive rhythm if you shorten this slider to end at 00:28:611 instead and have the clap on the end. Then have a 1/1 slider at 00:29:115 to follow the vocals. The reason why I say this is because the clap at 00:28:611 is really loud and it's an important beat in the section. It's better to have it on a hit like the slider end instead of in the middle of the slider. Like this:
    This is why the ranking guidelines discourage the use of slidertick hitsounds. They encourage mappers to make unintuitive rhythms because they can add the hitsounds in the middle of sliders and it confuses the player.
  5. Some times in the kiai you use a soft whistle instead of a finish, like at 01:21:048 (4,1) for example, at places where you normally use finishs (in other diffs. It's not a problem, just listing it here.
Great diff.

[Easy]

  1. 00:06:930 (4,1) - I highly suggest that you even out the spacing here. New players will enjoy more movement, and there's plenty of space here to make it 1.0 spacing.
  2. 00:20:543 (4,1,2,3) - Try changing the rhythm here to follow the vocals more closely. Try removing the repeat from the 4 and then moving the 1,2,3 to the left 1/2. Then add a repeat to the 3. Like so:
    Image

    That or you could extend the 3 by one beat like this:
  3. 01:37:686 (1) - Remove NC? Unnecessary imo.
Nice.

Ok well that's all for now. I have similar complaints that Winber1 had. I'd like you to work some more on it before calling me back.
I'm gonna star the map now because it's got lots of great potential.^^
Topic Starter
Oyatsu

UnitedWeSin wrote:

THE TIME HAS COME!

I'm going to be strict with your mapping because I see a lot of great potential and I want to help you improve it.

[General]

  1. Quite sure the artist "Duca" does not need to be written in Japanese unicode. Try typing "デュッカ" into Google, you will get strange results that have nothing to do with the artist. Replace "デュッカ" with "Duca". :arrow: ok
  2. Really really nice SB!
[Insane]

  1. 00:05:165 (2,3) - A bit unnatural jump to the 2 here imo. Try moving the 2,3 more downwards and placing them more inside the curve given from the 00:04:661 (1). Try like this: :arrow: fixed
  2. 00:06:426 (5,6) - Small spacing doesn't feel so great imo, you have less than 1.0 spacing here. You could try increasing the spacing and also making a nicer blanket. It will play better after the 4-5 jump. Also make sure to make the 00:05:291 (3,4) blanket and the 00:06:426 (5,6) the same for a consistent pattern here. :arrow: fixed
  3. 00:17:896 (4,5,1,2) - Looks a bit sloppy. More spacing is nicer here, try moving the 00:19:031 (1,2) - more downwards and to the right so that the slider tail of 00:19:031 (1) is the same spacing from the spacing from the 00:17:896 (4) that the 5 is. Like this: :arrow: ok
  4. 00:33:022 (7) - Clap missing perhaps? :arrow: added ><
  5. 00:55:333 (1,2) - Move to (324,328) is nicer for more spacing and to make the blanket nice. Don't forget to move the 00:56:342 (3,4,5,6) also. :arrow: ok
  6. 01:03:905 - When you're using a slidertick hitsound in an Insane diff to accent something important in the music, chances are your rhythm is not very good and is ignoring what's important in the song. Here I suggest that you remove the repeat from the 8 and to add a small stream after it. This way you will start following the drum transition when it's starting in the music instead of after it has started. You could also use a 1/4 slider with a repeat if you wanted. Also a NC on the 8 is great here, the combo gets a little bit long anyways. Here's what I mean: :arrow: fixed but I put trouble note afterward overlaps with (8)
  7. 01:04:787 (10,11,1) - It would be nice to have larger spacing here. When you have a pattern that increases spacing like 01:04:409 (9,10), you should continue that idea until the next downbeat or tension release. The 01:04:409 (9,10) and the spacing increase is following the drum transition in the music, which is building up tension in anticipation for the finish (downbeat) at 01:05:417. That's why when you decrease spacing like you do at 01:04:787 (10,11,1) before the downbeat, it feels really not so great. You can follow the music better by having similar spacing to the 11 that you do between the two 1/4 sliders, and then a jump and NC to the 1.
    Take 00:50:039 (2,3,4,5,6,1) for example, see how you follow the increased spacing idea until the downbeat? That plays really nicely. :arrow: I really can't understand this or my english is poor ><. I will ask you after
  8. 01:23:569 (1) - Clap on the end is nice. :arrow: ok
  9. 01:23:064 (7) - Try replacing with a 1/4 repeating slider instead to better follow the percussion here. :arrow: ok
  10. 01:29:619 (1) - Try extending the slider by 1/4 here, seems to follow the music quite well. :arrow: ok
  11. 01:30:880 (1,2,3) - My large complaint here is that this super important beat at 01:31:636 falls on the end of the slider and is not stressed. What that does is make your map feel distanct from the music because we aren't moving and clicking along with important aspects of the song. Look at the setup that you have in the hard diff. That is the kind of thing that you want here. Try this sort of rhythm: :arrow: fixed
    Image

    A triplet at 01:31:132 fits the music perfectly and then a jump into the slider 1.
    I have similar complaints with sliders like 01:07:182 (1) although that one is not as bad. On the end of that slider, the vocals start a new idea, so it makes the entire section feel awkward to play imo. You could try arranging as you see fit. :arrow: I think it is fine? ><
  12. 01:31:384 (3,4,5,6) - You have such small spacing here even though these are some of the most accented beats in the song. A jump to the slider 01:32:392 (6) is fantastic because of the loud finish hit on its head. :arrow: link false @@
  13. 01:14:997 (6,7,1) - Since the vocals really increase in intensity here, you could try increasing spacing, which might play better especially after the jump pattern at 01:13:485 (1,2,3,4) when the vocals were more relaxed. :arrow: fixed I put (7) overlap with (5)
  14. 01:19:535 (1,2,3) - Since the vocals are holding here, try instead following the background music by shortening the 1 by 1/4 and adding a circle, then delete 2 and more the 3 1/2 earlier like this: :arrow: ok
    Image

    You could have a nice blanketing jump to the 3 perhaps.
  15. 01:38:947 (4,5) - Unstack them? It fits better with the 01:37:686 (1,2,3) pattern and plays nicer imo. :arrow: Try it see if you agree.fix as image
I'd like you to work more on this. Take these points here into consideration and work more on matching your spacing and rhythm to the music. Lots of times in this map you use smaller spacing for more intense portions of the song and it makes the map feel less that amazing.

[Hard]

  1. 00:03:148 (3,4) - This is alright here, just note that it's not really following anything in the music since the vocals are completely different here than they were at 00:01:132 (2,3). It would be better if you had a slider at 00:02:896 with a repeat on the blue tick, just like at 00:06:930 (6). :arrow: alright
  2. 00:15:501 (3,4,5) - Missing claps here I suppose. :arrow: ok
  3. 00:22:560 (4) - Clap on head. :arrow:
  4. 00:23:064 (5,1) - Switch NC makes more sense to me to follow vocals. :arrow: ok
  5. 00:24:577 (2) - Since we were following vocals with the 00:23:064 (5,6,1) I'd rather you not have this large jump here. It's a bit surprising. Instead I'd like if you would follow vocals with a rhythm like so: :arrow: fixed
  6. 00:27:854 (6) - The repeat is not following anything in the song and is missing the vocal hit at 00:28:358. I'd like it if you would extend the slider by 1/2. That or shorten it by 1/2 if you don't want to miss out on the clap. :arrow: oh i didn't see it @@
  7. 00:32:644 (5) - Clap on the head and on the end is nice to follow the music here. :arrow: ok
  8. 01:04:409 (3) - Clap on first repeat. :arrow: ok
  9. 01:33:653 (1,2,3) - Try increasing spacing to make the rhythm more obvious and to avoid the overlap with the 01:32:896 (6). :arrow: fixed but lower distance
  10. 01:39:199 (4) - Missing clap on head I suppose. :arrow: ok
Pretty nice diff.

[Normal]

  1. 00:00:880 (1,2) - I think it's a confusing way to start the map. I'd prefer that you combine these into one slider. :arrow: ok
  2. 00:06:426 (4,5) - The 5 being on the blue tick is a bit weird and it's difficult for the player to even notice the difference in spacing from previous notes. I highly suggest changing the rhythm before this so that you could have a repeating slider here. The idea is this: :arrow: fixed
    Image

    Circle at 00:06:426 and then slider starting at 00:06:930. Also move the spinner to the right 1/4 tick.
  3. 00:16:006 - I'd like you to remove the slider tick hitsound from this spot. After the finish at 00:15:753 this clap is really noisy. It's just too much noise and may confuse the player. Also the clap at 00:16:006 is much softer than the one at 00:15:501 so it's fine not to have it hitsounded here imo. :arrow: ok ok
  4. 00:27:602 (5) - I think you can make a more intuitive rhythm if you shorten this slider to end at 00:28:611 instead and have the clap on the end. Then have a 1/1 slider at 00:29:115 to follow the vocals. The reason why I say this is because the clap at 00:28:611 is really loud and it's an important beat in the section. It's better to have it on a hit like the slider end instead of in the middle of the slider. Like this: :arrow:
    This is why the ranking guidelines discourage the use of slidertick hitsounds. They encourage mappers to make unintuitive rhythms because they can add the hitsounds in the middle of sliders and it confuses the player.
  5. Some times in the kiai you use a soft whistle instead of a finish, like at 01:21:048 (4,1) for example, at places where you normally use finishs (in other diffs. It's not a problem, just listing it here. :arrow: fixed
Great diff.

[Easy]

  1. 00:06:930 (4,1) - I highly suggest that you even out the spacing here. New players will enjoy more movement, and there's plenty of space here to make it 1.0 spacing. :arrow: ok fixed
  2. 00:20:543 (4,1,2,3) - Try changing the rhythm here to follow the vocals more closely. Try removing the repeat from the 4 and then moving the 1,2,3 to the left 1/2. Then add a repeat to the 3. Like so: :arrow: ok
    Image

    That or you could extend the 3 by one beat like this:
  3. 01:37:686 (1) - Remove NC? Unnecessary imo :arrow: fixed.
Nice.

Ok well that's all for now. I have similar complaints that Winber1 had. I'd like you to work some more on it before calling me back.
I'm gonna star the map now because it's got lots of great potential.^^
Thank you for useful mod, UWS> I only can fix things I can understand, also my english poor so I can't understand all your mean. Hope you can understand me ^^
UnitedWeSin
I'm sorry Oyatsu. Sometimes I forget about language barrier, so I'll try again.

No KD.

[Insane]

  1. 00:05:922 (4) - Move to (348,236). Make same blanket as 00:06:426 (5,6) for better pattern.
  2. 00:09:199 (1) - Seems nice to move this to 00:09:325 and stack on 00:09:451 (2). Follows drums and gives time after spinner.
  3. 00:13:358 - Consider add note here. You can make triplet on head of 00:13:485 (6). Follows music and makes nice jump here which fits.
  4. 00:19:409 (2,3) - More spacing plays better IMO because there is gap in rhythm. Try moving 00:20:291 (3,4,5,6) to the right.
  5. 00:24:073 (2,3,4) - You stop follow vocal here and the linear flow plays not so great IMO. Try to continue follow vocals:
    Image

    Sample placement. The drop to 3 fits vocals well IMO.
  6. 00:34:913 (5) - Try move to 00:35:165 to follow vocal better. If you delete 00:35:417 (1) and add circle at 00:34:913 you can follow vocal better and make better flow from 00:34:157 (3,4,5). Here is example:
    Image

    4-5 jump fits with vocals well.
  7. 00:48:527 (5) - Try stack on head of 00:47:518 (2) and make jump. It fits better after 00:47:896 (3,4) jump.
  8. 00:56:342 (3,4,5,6) -

    -iCo- wrote:

    00:56:342 (3,4,5,6) - make these jumps neater. They look scattered
    That's a good suggestion, these jumps are a bit scattered. Try to fix them up, maybe have 00:56:846 (5) in blanket with 00:55:333 (1). Here's a sample placement you could try:
  9. 01:03:401 (1) - Because you stack them, you should extend this by 1/4. That way it ends on the white tick and we play triplet. It is easier to read.
    Image

    Or you could shorten it to red tick and use 1/4 slider with repeat:

    If you do, stack 2 - 3 is better to read.
  10. 01:07:182 (1,2) - Switch NC seems better to make 01:06:174 (3,4,1) all same combo and because vocals change on this jump 01:07:686 (2).
  11. 01:17:266 (6,1) - Make blanket? It will be more nice flow and more pretty placement.
  12. 01:31:636 (5,6,7,8) - You can make a more interesting placement here. Try to have 1.5 spacing to the 5 then a jump to the 7 for the loud crash. I'll give you example placement that you might like:
I have a lot of issues with the Insane diff.

I feel that sections like 00:17:014 to 00:31:132 are great and have clever placements. You use nice jumps and good flow.

But sections like (just examples):
00:33:148 to 00:41:342
01:05:417 to 01:13:485
01:27:350 to end
These sections are really not so great and need more work on placements/flow. You stop your good flow/jumps. I gave some examples on ways to fix that.

I'm sorry Oyatsu, I don't think I'm the right one to bubble right now. I think you should find a few more mods and work more on the Insane.
Topic Starter
Oyatsu

UnitedWeSin wrote:

I'm sorry Oyatsu. Sometimes I forget about language barrier, so I'll try again.

No KD.

[Insane]

  1. 00:05:922 (4) - Move to (348,236). Make same blanket as 00:06:426 (5,6) for better pattern. :arrow: fixed
  2. 00:09:199 (1) - Seems nice to move this to 00:09:325 and stack on 00:09:451 (2). Follows drums and gives time after spinner. :arrow: ok
  3. 00:13:358 - Consider add note here. You can make triplet on head of 00:13:485 (6). Follows music and makes nice jump here which fits. :arrow: ok
  4. 00:19:409 (2,3) - More spacing plays better IMO because there is gap in rhythm. Try moving 00:20:291 (3,4,5,6) to the right. :arrow: fixed
  5. 00:24:073 (2,3,4) - You stop follow vocal here and the linear flow plays not so great IMO. Try to continue follow vocals: :arrow: ok
    Image

    Sample placement. The drop to 3 fits vocals well IMO.
  6. 00:34:913 (5) - Try move to 00:35:165 to follow vocal better. If you delete 00:35:417 (1) and add circle at 00:34:913 you can follow vocal better and make better flow from 00:34:157 (3,4,5). Here is example: :arrow: ok
    Image

    4-5 jump fits with vocals well.
  7. 00:48:527 (5) - Try stack on head of 00:47:518 (2) and make jump. It fits better after 00:47:896 (3,4) jump. :arrow: ok
  8. 00:56:342 (3,4,5,6) -

    -iCo- wrote:

    00:56:342 (3,4,5,6) - make these jumps neater. They look scattered
    That's a good suggestion, these jumps are a bit scattered. Try to fix them up, maybe have 00:56:846 (5) in blanket with 00:55:333 (1). Here's a sample placement you could try:ok, also i will give kudosu for ico afterward
  9. 01:03:401 (1) - Because you stack them, you should extend this by 1/4. That way it ends on the white tick and we play triplet. It is easier to read. :arrow: fixed
    Image

    Or you could shorten it to red tick and use 1/4 slider with repeat:

    If you do, stack 2 - 3 is better to read.
  10. 01:07:182 (1,2) - Switch NC seems better to make 01:06:174 (3,4,1) all same combo and because vocals change on this jump 01:07:686 (2). :arrow: ok
  11. 01:17:266 (6,1) - Make blanket? It will be more nice flow and more pretty placement. :arrow: ok
  12. 01:31:636 (5,6,7,8) - You can make a more interesting placement here. Try to have 1.5 spacing to the 5 then a jump to the 7 for the loud crash. I'll give you example placement that you might like: :arrow: ok
I have a lot of issues with the Insane diff.

I feel that sections like 00:17:014 to 00:31:132 are great and have clever placements. You use nice jumps and good flow.

But sections like (just examples):
00:33:148 to 00:41:342
01:05:417 to 01:13:485
01:27:350 to end
These sections are really not so great and need more work on placements/flow. You stop your good flow/jumps. I gave some examples on ways to fix that.

I'm sorry Oyatsu, I don't think I'm the right one to bubble right now. I think you should find a few more mods and work more on the Insane.
Thank you for recheck. I also start to find add more mods :(
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