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Raging Bull

cRyo[iceeicee] wrote:

Gravephobia >:
Raging Bull

cRyo[iceeicee] wrote:

Gravephobia >:
UnitedWeSin
I always knew I'd be the one to bubble this map, somehow.

Mostly just suggestions~

[General]

  1. I guess the source being "Toaru" and not "To Aru" would mean that all of the ranked maps are wrong. Hmmm.
[kusano's Railgun]

  1. 00:13:032 (7,8,9) - I'd like it if you could match the 00:12:199 (3,4) jump with a little more spacing to the stream here. It feels like the stream is too close.
  2. 00:13:449 (1,2) - I can't really hear what this rhythm is following, it's confusing in play. I'd prefer that you use the same rhythm as 00:16:782 (1,2,3,4) to follow vocals. Try to extend the 1 and have a circle at 00:13:866.
  3. 00:18:032 (6,7,1) - A bit strange the flow into the 1. Try placing the 6 around (336,16) instead. It provides a more comfortable flow imo.
  4. 00:24:491 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1) - I'd really like to see more spacing here as the music gets more intense. I don't think using Kevin's code was such a good idea because this section feels out of place in the map IMO. The rhythm is good, but you need more spacing between the 00:25:949 (1,2,3,1) especially. Try to rework this a bit.
    Example
    Just an example here. You could move the 2 more upwards and the 3 more downwards and to the left.
  5. 00:35:116 (1) - Remove finish from the head, it is not supported by a finish in the music and is breaking your pattern here it seems.
  6. 01:03:449 (1,2) - I want less spacing to the double. The reach feels a bit too far. Less of a jump feels more fitting with vocals imo and more consistent with 01:16:365 (1,2,1,2). Try around (435,364).
[Insane]

  1. 00:38:449 (1,2) - It's difficult to understand the switch to 1/4 on the 2, players will want to hit the 2 as if it were at 00:39:074. Try to make a little more spacing between the 1 and 2, it will be easier to read, like the 00:34:595 (4,5).
  2. 00:41:782 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - This is really difficult to understand. The 1 having an extra repeat makes it end on the blue tick 00:42:720 which isn't hitting with anything in the song because the bass transition switches to 1/2 at that point. I highly suggest remove a repeat from the 1 and add a circle 00:42:616 and 00:42:824 to follow the music.
  3. 00:57:407 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - It would be much nicer i we didn't start streaming until 00:57:616 where the bass stream starts in the music. I think you could have a 1/4 slider at 00:57:407 to follow the pattern from 00:56:782 (1,2,3,4) and use it to kick off the stream:
[Hard]

  1. 00:41:782 (1) - Same as Insane, the extra repeat doesn't make any sense because the bass begins to hit in 1/2 there. Please remove the repeat and add some circles.
[Normal]

  1. 00:56:782 (1) - How about deleting this and placing a spinner from here until 00:58:032? I think it might fill this awkward (imo) from 00:57:407 to the downbeat when the music is so intense. This portion is even mapped in the easy diff.
    Example

    Or you could try extending the 1 like in the easy:

    I feel either would be much better.
Cool, check these and let me know. :3
Topic Starter
Melophobia

UnitedWeSin wrote:

I always knew I'd be the one to bubble this map, somehow.

Mostly just suggestions~

[General]

  1. I guess the source being "Toaru" and not "To Aru" would mean that all of the ranked maps are wrong. Hmmm. i'm sure the current one is correct considering its meaning. Pokie and MiLu are comfirming and wikipedia says it is "Toaru" too.
[Insane]

  1. 00:38:449 (1,2) - It's difficult to understand the switch to 1/4 on the 2, players will want to hit the 2 as if it were at 00:39:074. Try to make a little more spacing between the 1 and 2, it will be easier to read, like the 00:34:595 (4,5). Good point. :3
  2. 00:41:782 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - This is really difficult to understand. The 1 having an extra repeat makes it end on the blue tick 00:42:720 which isn't hitting with anything in the song because the bass transition switches to 1/2 at that point. I highly suggest remove a repeat from the 1 and add a circle 00:42:616 and 00:42:824 to follow the music. Actually it was originally like that, but i changed it because it felt awkward to me. the current one somewhat sounds better to me.
  3. 00:57:407 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - It would be much nicer i we didn't start streaming until 00:57:616 where the bass stream starts in the music. I think you could have a 1/4 slider at 00:57:407 to follow the pattern from 00:56:782 (1,2,3,4) and use it to kick off the stream: Cool. Fixed but i rearranged the pattern a bit.
[Hard]

  1. 00:41:782 (1) - Same as Insane, the extra repeat doesn't make any sense because the bass begins to hit in 1/2 there. Please remove the repeat and add some circles. Same as Insane.
[Normal]

  1. 00:56:782 (1) - How about deleting this and placing a spinner from here until 00:58:032? I think it might fill this awkward (imo) from 00:57:407 to the downbeat when the music is so intense. This portion is even mapped in the easy diff. Sure.
    Example

    Or you could try extending the 1 like in the easy:

    I feel either would be much better.
Cool, check these and let me know. :3
Thank you so much. :D
Naichatta
>UnitedWeSin
Thank you for modding.
http://puu.sh/4loiR.zip

fixed toshika kakenai
UnitedWeSin
[Insane]
  1. 00:41:782 (1) - I'm sorry I really can't agree with that slider having the extra repeat. I think it's a really unintuitive pattern, especially because you are stacking the stream on the end of the slider.

    The extra repeat is really unexpected, especially if you know the song, and it ending on the blue tick is hitting along with nothing in the music. I talked with a few other people and they agreed that the pattern is confusing when it doesn't need to be.

    I'll try again with some different options here:

    You could have a 1/2 slider at 00:41:782 to reflect the 00:41:365 (6) and then use a rhythm like so:


    Or you could try a triplet after the 2 instead:


    More Bland Options
    Single circles with jumps might be nice:


    The classic:

    Please consider changing in the Hard diff also.
  2. 00:57:407 (5) - Finish on head?
I have nothing else to say. Please consider changing that pattern and let me know. :)
kajiyatta
As requested.
[General]
add silenced soft-sliderslide?
[Easy]
Rhythm
01:25:949(1) it would be a bit difficult for newbie because of after a spinner. so try to put more simply like this?
Hit Sonud
00:36:782(1) add finish at head
[Normal]
Placement
01:08:032(6,1) just suggestion, it would be good flow for me.
Rhythm
00:54:907 add a note? it is effective for the next slider.
[Hard]
Placement
00:57:616(4) add NC same as Insane?
01:23:449(9)^
Rhythm
00:08:241 not sure, but add a note better. it would follow the drum sound and look effective.
01:02:407(2,3) current looks fine, but to follow the vocal, it would be more fine.
01:15:741(2,3)^
[Insane]
Placement
00:23:866(3) super nazi, x should be 344.
01:16:574(5) to make a nice flow, move up better.
01:23:449(9) add NC for pattern.
Rhythm
00:17:407(2,3,4) current looks fine, but slider should start at 00:17:511 to follow the vocal I suppose. e.g)
00:22:616(3) I know you followed the drum sound at 00:22:928, but it sounds weak than vocal at 00:22:824, so to put simply better.
00:41:782(1) it is allowed for normally Insane. but to be honestly, I suppose you can make it more consistent.
As UWS said, I don't follow this point the stream begins on the end of slider with double kicks. Thus, blank from 00:42:720 to 00:43:032 looks not good, and may cause confused.
To keep consistence, pick a drum sound at 00:42:824 better, here is example. if you do it, you can stack stream on the last note, it will look fine.
But, I suppose it looks fine in the Hard diff since it should be simple Rhythm.
00:45:324 add a note to follow the instrumental. for me, this blank looks a bit weird.
Hit Sonud
00:57:616(1~8) How about add decrescendo? it seems to really great effect before kiai-time.
[kusano's Railgun]
Placement
00:33:241(1,2) swap NC to be consistence?
Rhythm
00:27:303(4) to follow the instrumental, maybe like this?
00:41:782(1) you can pick the sound at 00:41:991 since this drum sound sounds clearly. e.g)
00:42:616(4) same as above, pick up the sound at 00:42:720.
01:27:511(5) I don't follow this slider, it looks ugly for me. maybe delete kicks and put a stream?

overall fine I suppose. good luck~
Topic Starter
Melophobia

UnitedWeSin wrote:

[Insane]
  1. 00:41:782 (1) - I'm sorry I really can't agree with that slider having the extra repeat. I think it's a really unintuitive pattern, especially because you are stacking the stream on the end of the slider.

    The extra repeat is really unexpected, especially if you know the song, and it ending on the blue tick is hitting along with nothing in the music. I talked with a few other people and they agreed that the pattern is confusing when it doesn't need to be. By nothing in the music you mean there's no sound at 00:42:720 - ? I think otherwise.. there's actually a sound which is more noticeable than the bass-drum. That's why that slider originally had an extra repeat. But yeah, I can tell why you think it's confusing thus I replaced it with 2 sliders according to kajiyatta's suggestion so it is now less confusing imo (hopefully). i'm not sure if you're fine with it so i'd like to get your opinion on it. (at least i really love the current one.)

    I'll try again with some different options here:

    You could have a 1/2 slider at 00:41:782 to reflect the 00:41:365 (6) and then use a rhythm like so:


    Or you could try a triplet after the 2 instead:


    More Bland Options
    Single circles with jumps might be nice:


    The classic:

    Please consider changing in the Hard diff also.
  2. 00:57:407 (5) - Finish on head?
I have nothing else to say. Please consider changing that pattern and let me know. :)
Thanks for the further explanation!

kajiyatta wrote:

As requested.
[General]
add silenced soft-sliderslide? I-it's not like I forgot to add it or anything...
[Easy]
Rhythm
01:25:949(1) it would be a bit difficult for newbie because of after a spinner. so try to put more simply like this? A slider is even easier than a circle to hit imo~
Hit Sonud
00:36:782(1) add finish at head Fixed.
[Normal]
Placement
01:08:032(6,1) just suggestion, it would be good flow for me. The flow between (5) and (6) will be even worse imo.
Rhythm
00:54:907 add a note? it is effective for the next slider. Good point.
[Hard]
Placement
00:57:616(4) add NC same as Insane? Fixed.
01:23:449(9)^ No.
Rhythm
00:08:241 not sure, but add a note better. it would follow the drum sound and look effective. Cool.
01:02:407(2,3) current looks fine, but to follow the vocal, it would be more fine. Ingoring many vocals in this difficulty in order to reduce its difficulty.
01:15:741(2,3)^ ^
[Insane]
Placement
00:23:866(3) super nazi, x should be 344. Ok.
01:16:574(5) to make a nice flow, move up better. The current one flows better to me. (Or I just like the way it flows..)
01:23:449(9) add NC for pattern. I know it's inconsistent with 00:23:449 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - but the pattern is differently configured and a newcombo there would make the pattern look worse.
Rhythm
00:17:407(2,3,4) current looks fine, but slider should start at 00:17:511 to follow the vocal I suppose. e.g) Fixed.
00:22:616(3) I know you followed the drum sound at 00:22:928, but it sounds weak than vocal at 00:22:824, so to put simply better. Keeping this for the sake of consistency.
00:41:782(1) it is allowed for normally Insane. but to be honestly, I suppose you can make it more consistent.
As UWS said, I don't follow this point the stream begins on the end of slider with double kicks. Thus, blank from 00:42:720 to 00:43:032 looks not good, and may cause confused.
To keep consistence, pick a drum sound at 00:42:824 better, here is example. if you do it, you can stack stream on the last note, it will look fine.
But, I suppose it looks fine in the Hard diff since it should be simple Rhythm. Fixed the rhythm accordingly, but I rearranged the placement in my own way.
00:45:324 add a note to follow the instrumental. for me, this blank looks a bit weird. Fixed.
Hit Sonud
00:57:616(1~8) How about add decrescendo? it seems to really great effect before kiai-time. I don't think it sounds that great.
overall fine I suppose. good luck~
Thank you for this awesome mod! It helped a lot. :D
Naichatta
UnitedWeSin
Just a few more things, feel free to deny.~

[Insane]

  1. 00:32:407 (1) - How about moving this NC to 00:31:782 (6)? Seems to follow vocals nicer here imo. I think the jump down to the 00:32:407 (1) is still perfectly intuitive without the NC there.
  2. 00:42:407 (2,3) - Feel free to ignore, but I'll complain a little more about this. I guess by having the 2 end at 00:42:720 on the blue tick you're following that guitar sound. I think that's alright and all, but I think it would be much better to include the bass hit at 00:42:616 in the mix. Can you try shortening the 2 by 1/4 and adding another circle to make a triplet? Here's what I did:
[Easy]
  1. What do you think about reducing AR by 1 tick? I think it's a bit too fast in this spread.
So nazi orz
Topic Starter
Melophobia

UnitedWeSin wrote:

Just a few more things, feel free to deny.~

[Insane]

  1. 00:32:407 (1) - How about moving this NC to 00:31:782 (6)? Seems to follow vocals nicer here imo. I think the jump down to the 00:32:407 (1) is still perfectly intuitive without the NC there. That was actually my mistake, fixed accordingly.
  2. 00:42:407 (2,3) - Feel free to ignore, but I'll complain a little more about this. I guess by having the 2 end at 00:42:720 on the blue tick you're following that guitar sound. I think that's alright and all, but I think it would be much better to include the bass hit at 00:42:616 in the mix. Can you try shortening the 2 by 1/4 and adding another circle to make a triplet? Here's what I did: Hmm, I prefer to keep it as it is since i think the bass-drum isn't really noticeable compared to 00:42:720 - and the current one plays better to me - i tried the triplet but it didn't play good to me since the pattern was too streamy.


[Easy]
  1. What do you think about reducing AR by 1 tick? I think it's a bit too fast in this spread. Alright.
So nazi orz
Thank you. :D
UnitedWeSin
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It should have happened long ago, but I'm glad I had the honor of doing it. :3
kanpakyin
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Topic Starter
Melophobia
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