They detect Lies.Wojjan wrote:
We all know what happens with lie detectors.
I really want to, but these mind games are kinda complex and I can't do anything without my notes.foulcoon wrote:
Should have started it now while I have nothing better to do! lol
I should, shouldn't I? I might start storing stuff.akrolsmir wrote:
Google docs is your friend?
You can detect and cure, both just take votes. (ofcourseimightusethatforafuturegamenow)animask wrote:
inb4roleclaim
Actually, we could/should assume that this MGM will be different than the previous.
We can't cure AND detect?
Oh right, we have a lie detector and some happy cure drugs.
I think we should use the lie detector before the drugs...
The killer doesn't know that they are the killer so everyone would be able to make a statement for the detector.
Only one of us is sane... that probably means all but one of our roles is actually correct.
Now... who knows how to use this lie detector?
are you dumb or stupid?animask wrote:
inb4roleclaim
Actually, we could/should assume that this MGM will be different than the previous.
We can't cure AND detect?
from what i understand we can
Oh right, we have a lie detector and some happy cure drugs.
right
I think we should use the lie detector before the drugs...
no shit sherlock
The killer doesn't know that they are the killer so everyone would be able to make a statement for the detector.
but we can only use it on one statement per day and it wont work on obvious statements
Only one of us is sane... that probably means all but one of our roles is actually correct.
no, that would mean that all but one of our roles is actually INCORRECT
Now... who knows how to use this lie detector?
I would assume we just vote posts
I take it you mean bus driver? Don't know if you're unable to claim or not. The presence of a bus driver might screw with determining our own sanity. If there is a bus driver in this game they probably shouldn't use their action on night one so we can all figure out what we're doing. I think a "no-drug" might be the best decision for today as well, but we do need to get the lie detector in action.animask wrote:
My role requires 2 targets.
What now?
foulcoon wrote:
I take it you mean bus driver? Don't know if you're unable to claim or not.
Maybe.LadySuburu wrote:
However, you may claim any role you please, and explain the powers in any way you please.
I don't know much about sanities, so I'm not sure which roles have them.Really, with this game, I wouldn't know what to expect, you can't really predict what the host is thinking. I think what Rantai said could be possible.bmin11 wrote:
Isn't sane and insane suppose to result in opposite? If you are insane cop, every mafia will turn out innocent and such. That's what I meant by "got confused between different and opposite". The role may be the same, but results in opposite, which means even by lie detecting and it gets a possitive from "I'm a cop" or "I'm a bus driver", the role could still act as insane.
Good point. I guess all that would do is confirm rust's own state of sanity or insanity and we would have to blindly trust him. Though his description of his role doesn't really make it seem like he would be the killer?Rantai wrote:
My question is, where does that actually get us?
Well it's not quite that. I'm a friendly neighbor that just says hello and tells them I'm town. I can't discuss anything with others. If that's what my role really does, then I can ask the player I talked to if he received my message.foulcoon wrote:
"rust45's role allows him to communicate privately with other players."
I could see it being possible- maybe whoever he tries to send a message to is actually NK'd. Besides, I'm not sure picking single people and finding out more about their roles is really the best use of the lie detector- even on the best case scenario we only learn about 1/9 of us.foulcoon wrote:
Good point. I guess all that would do is confirm rust's own state of sanity or insanity and we would have to blindly trust him. Though his description of his role doesn't really make it seem like he would be the killer?Rantai wrote:
My question is, where does that actually get us?
)At the very least we'll see how it works.rust45 wrote:
"My role allows my to send a message to someone that confirms that I am town"
We're almost certain to get a negative response from this, given that only one in nine of us are sane. Unless rust45 lied to us for some reason. Anyways, I agree this isn't going anywhere so Vote Lie Detect: "My role allows my to send a message to someone that confirms that I am town"Rantai wrote:
Ok you know what? We're getting no where.
Vote Lie Detect:At the very least we'll see how it works.rust45 wrote:
"My role allows my to send a message to someone that confirms that I am town"
rust45 wrote:
"My role allows my to send a message to someone that confirms that I am town"
rust45 wrote:
Well it's not quite that. I'm a friendly neighbor that just says hello and tells them I'm town. I can't discuss anything with others. If that's what my role really does, then I can ask the player I talked to if he received my message.
I'll rephrase it:
"My role allows my to send a message to someone that confirms that I am town"
foulcoon wrote:
rust45's role allows him to send a message to another player, who could confirm that he is town.
Good idea, but perhaps the lie detector is construed so that it only reveals a player's view rather than the objective truth, like a real-life lie detector.foulcoon wrote:
Unvote
Vote Lie Detect:foulcoon wrote:
rust45's role allows him to send a message to another player, who could confirm that he is town.
rust45 wrote:
My role allows me to send a message to another player, who could confirm that I am town.
foulcoon wrote:
Unvote
Vote Lie Detect:rust45 wrote:
My role allows me to send a message to another player, who could confirm that I am town.
Hint: "My ability targets 1 person." Would be vague enough for the detector. Likewise, "I protected X last night." Figure the rest out on your own.So our statements are supposed to be vague rather than specific? I thought it was the other way around...
"The only sane one is the killer"Vote: @above, Vote: No Cure
Although he won't know it, the Killer will win if the town runs out of medicine.I took this to mean that the killer is confirmed insane, and someone else out there just happens to be sane.
Sane/Insane = Role Typeakrolsmir wrote:
Although he won't know it, the Killer will win if the town runs out of medicine.I took this to mean that the killer is confirmed insane, and someone else out there just happens to be sane.
It's known that only one of you is sane.And I assumed that meant only one of our roles is exactly equivalent to what the role PM stated, and everyone else had an actual role different from the stated one. I took the former to mean "sane" and the latter "insane". This differs from the traditional definition (which only applies to cops if I'm reading the wiki correctly), but it'll probably be more appropriate for this game. Unless you want to use "deluded" or something instead to avoid confusion?
i think this is rather suspicious for someone want to get his lie exposed.....rust45 wrote:
Vote: My last post
I was doing that as we didn't really have anywhere to go and no one knew what to do.Index-San wrote:
i think this is rather suspicious for someone want to get his lie exposed.....
I'm about 90% sure that's going to return a negative result, based on the OP as I mentioned before. If the detector doesn't just break on us instead. But I don't have any better ideas, and at least this could test the sanity of the detector. Plus, I might be wrong. So:rust45 wrote:
And I think a better wording regarding the killer would be. "The killer is aware that they are the killer"
Vote: Thatakrolsmir wrote:
The killer is aware that they are the killer.
vote: thisakrolsmir wrote:
The killer is aware that they are the killer.
This is what I was wondering about (and why I asked about sanities). I wasn't sure if "sane" in this case was referring to the definition that I thought only applied to cops.akrolsmir wrote:
We probably should get our terminology straight so we don't start confusing one another. The OP stated:It's known that only one of you is sane.And I assumed that meant only one of our roles is exactly equivalent to what the role PM stated, and everyone else had an actual role different from the stated one. I took the former to mean "sane" and the latter "insane". This differs from the traditional definition (which only applies to cops if I'm reading the wiki correctly), but it'll probably be more appropriate for this game. Unless you want to use "deluded" or something instead to avoid confusion?
So basically I was saying that the killer has no idea that s/he is the killer.
I assume that in this case "sane" means that they don't know what they actually are, since it would make a lot more sense in this particular game.akrolsmir wrote:
The killer is aware that they are the killer.