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Seibei4211
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Yeah, but this game is even pretty weak from a KSGL standpoint. Like, you get loot a lot, but most of it is crap and it's not fun sifting through the crap and selling it back. And then like, there's not a lot of oh-my-God-totally-awesome stuff cause it's all designed to be in tiers and stuff so the stats are equal, but put into different categories and stuff. Like minus 10 attack, plus 10 will. And even when you think you're super buffed up and shit, there's not a lot of difference, except with obvious changes like your health and crit percentage. It's hard for me to play that game for more than an hour or two at a time since you have to spend so much time looking at stats and seeing if anything's better and stuff.

And yet, despite all of that, I still love it. It's just a fucking conundrum.
Seibei4211
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Do you guys want to know the true definition of insanity? It's the state of mind you're in after playing the second-to-last level of Joe Danger 297 times without beating it. This game is awesome, but holy shit, everyone involved with this game needs to be shot for making it so hard to get 100%

Update: I am the fucking Chosen One. Joe Danger 100%. I kinda wish I had done it on my main account though. Would've been nice. Oh well.
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Update: I am the fucking Chosen One. Joe Danger 100%. I kinda wish I had done it on my main account though. Would've been nice. Oh well.
This is the reason why I have my PS3 automatically log in to my main (Australian) account at all times, since there's nothing worse than a 100% completion occurring on anything bar your main account unless you want to do all the hard work yet again.
But then that'd just make you out to be a masochist especially on some of the harder/longer games to platinum trophy get.
Seibei4211
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No, I specifically chose to play Joe Danger on my alt account because that's what it's for. I knew Joe Danger would be hard, so I didn't want to force myself to get 100% if I didn't want to. I had no way of knowing that I would get so determined to get 100% in that game. I've actually got 2 plats on an account that's not supposed to have any. And I've almost got a 3rd as well. It's like, it's still my account, and I still got the trophy, so that's good enough for me.
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ampzz wrote:

Seibei4211 wrote:

But then that'd just make you out to be a masochist especially on some of the harder/longer games to platinum trophy get.
100% Megaman 10 /flex
Seibei4211
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Yeah, that is pretty impressive. Although I do have the Lost Planet 2 Platinum, which is, without a doubt, impossible to get anymore.
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Started playing Prototype again. That game is fun.
Seibei4211
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Unless you're trying to get the Plat. Then it's infuriating. I hecka liked going into military bases and stealth killing everyone I possibly could. Like, they are the worst soldiers ever.

Anyway, I sure am glad I was able to get Wipeout HD as well, cause that game is pretty fun. I'm not much of a racing game guy, but I like this one. At least I like it more than I liked Super Stardust HD.
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I found the plat easy, but hated getting the sphere things. Unless you're marking them from the getgo, you're stuck with one left and a lot of frustration.
Seibei4211
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I liked getting the collectibles, but Platting the events was annoying and doing the game on Hard was just lame at times.
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Final boss on Hard. I remember that being a nightmare. Difficult + timed.
Seibei4211
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Yeah, he sucked dick. Like he was hard enough just by himself, but then you get that strict time limit and it's ridiculous. And if you accidentally blew up the helicopters in the first half of the fight, you weren't gonna get him on your first try at all. Also, that Elizabeth fight was so stupid. It took a stupid long time to kill her and you had to fight off an endless supply of hunters.
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You jerks talking shit about Eternal Sonata need to back off, okay. Such a good battle system; it more than made up for the mediocrity of the storyline.

Also the optional dungeon was fun. And Claves owns. Look, just fuck you guys okay.
Seibei4211
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Wow. I'm so glad I was able to get Wipeout HD in addition to Super Stardust HD, because I would've made the completely wrong decision if I had just gotten Stardust. I spent more time and had more fun with Wipeout than I usually have with most of the $60 games I get.

But anyway, I saw this thing for Nightmare House 2, which is a mod using Half-Life 2: Episode 2. I really wanted to play that, so I just bought the Orange Box for Steam. This way I can finally play the first Portal as well. And I guess, if I wanted to, I could play Half-Life 2 or something.

Also, I tried that Elton John song in Rock Band 3, awp, and holy shit, that got pretty ridiculous about 15 seconds into it.
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Wipeout HD was one of the titles I was eagerly awaiting for release on the PSN the moment I found out it wouldn't be a disc-based release which was a let-down due to not having a way to get items off the store back then but nonetheless it was well worth the wait I had to endure.
It's also one of the only games I actually enjoy using the Sixaxis controls to go through in, even in the Phantom class races.

Needless to say Wipeout has always been one of my favourite Playstation titles, namely due to Wipeout 2097 being my first Playstation game but of course this is a non biased opinion on the product.

Cannot wait to see what Wipeout 2048 on the Vita will handle like, seems promising on the amount of extra ships and (thus far) listed tracks as a few seem to be renditions of older tracks.

Super Stardust HD was boring as heck, felt I wasted my money on it but I also got Dead Nation (fairly fun) at the time for free due to PS+ subscription.
I still enjoy all the PSOne titles even today, especially Crash Bandicoot.
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Am I the only one here who really enjoyed Stardust? I even got the DLC for it (which seemed like a rip off since Wipeout got it's DLC with it when you got it free) and I find it so fun trying to avoid all the crap that gets thrown at you.

Although, Dead Nation was amazing to play with a friend (Something Stardust couldn't do) and added help for the more challenging parts.
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Although, Dead Nation was amazing to play with a friend
I have not done this yet. Anyone feel like blasting through Normal some time? I've played all five difficulties and found Normal to be the most entertaining.
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Nier status messages.
I get the feeling there's one or two missing.
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awp wrote:

rust45 wrote:

Although, Dead Nation was amazing to play with a friend
I have not done this yet. Anyone feel like blasting through Normal some time? I've played all five difficulties and found Normal to be the most entertaining.
Sure, I'd just have to redownload and install it again.

Oh the joys or the original 60GB PS3 and many Playstation Network downloads...
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Just beat inFamous 2 (shortly after the first one) and I have to say it was pretty enjoyable. The only problem I have is that some of the powers aren't as sweet as the powers in the first one. Chain lightning anyone?

Oh yeah, did anyone else notice that Cole's feet kinda look like cow feet? There's an odd indent at the tip of his shoe's.
Seibei4211
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So for the first time ever, I actually have been playing Half-Life 2 on Steam. I always thought it'd suck because the first one really sucked, but this game is surprisingly fun despite being 7 years old. I mean, I don't think I need to tell anyone that it's a good game, but it's just that I've finally been convinced of that. I still think it's a little bit overhyped, but whatever. It was probably the shit when it first came out.
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Every time I get a new machine I play through Half Life 2. It was amazing for its time, and it's still great for the present. Largely because it isn't a cover-based shooter.
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I like it because it's quite varied for an FPS. It's not just room after room of enemies and crap. Like there's some physics-based puzzle shit and that's cool. But like, you've got that whole section with the riverboat and that was really fun, then you've got that sort of zombie level, and now I'm doing the dune buggy level and that's been pretty fun, especially when you have to shoot down the gunships. I kinda wish there was more suit power around, but whatever, no biggie. I think this game would probably suck a lot more on the console. Like, I love consoles, but I don't know how I could do this game on one. Just makes it easier to shoot guys from farther away, which is really good since I can't zoom and shoot.
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Have fun with the crane (in the buggy section)

veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepow



The bridge part is really neat too. It always gives my stomach a sick feeling. Like vertigo, or something.
Seibei4211
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Yeah, I already did the crane part. Or at least the crane part where you lower the bride and pull your car up. I kinda hated how the magnet swung around whenever you moved it, so you'd usually have to wait for it to stop swinging if you needed to be precise. But whatever. I'm at the part just after picking up the crossbow and I took down the energy wall there. Also, I've been doing the achievements in this game for kicks and there's one for destroying 6 gunships, and I've taken down 2, the one at New Little Odessa and the one along the highway, but the game decided to only credit me for one of those kills. Lame.
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Try the crane part in Synergy. Goooooooood times.
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Also I don't want to spoil it (and nobody else will either) but the last part of the game is also a ton of fun. It pretty much takes what you've been wanting to do the whole game (in my case) and lets you do it.
Seibei4211
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You were right about that bridge part, awp. There were a couple of parts where I had to kind of drop a little ways onto a catwalk and it was like, "OH GEEZ." That was a cool little section.
Seibei4211
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God damn, guys. Half-Life 2 has some of the best music I've ever heard in a video game. That ending credits song really did it for me.
Seibei4211
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I finally beat the Half-Life 2 series, so I went down and got Eternal Sonata. I have to agree with Ival, this game is pretty sweet so far. The English voice acting is a little bit terrible, but the combat is really sweet.
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So yeah. I have a PS3 now, kinda. I guess I'll play through Disgaea3, now that I have the opportunity.
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Seibei4211 wrote:

I finally beat the Half-Life 2 series, so I went down and got Eternal Sonata. I have to agree with Ival, this game is pretty sweet so far. The English voice acting is a little bit terrible, but the combat is really sweet.
The combat only gets better, so you're in for a real treat.
Seibei4211
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Yeah, I wanna unlock counterattacks and the second set of special attacks. I'm not gonna be happy about my infinite tactical time going away though. And losing a second on my action gauge is gonna suck.

Azure, do you have a PSN name yet?
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My PSN's AK0alaB3ar .

The multiplayer games that I have that I can remember at the moment are:
Call of Duty MW1+2+Black ops, Borderlands+all DLC, Bioshock 2, Rainbow 6 Vegas 2
Blazblue Continuum shift, Tekken 6
Little big planet, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2,
Gran Turismo 5, Dead Nation,

If I have more, I probably let a friend borrow it/them. The rest are single player games.
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My ID is thatazureguy
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Damn, it seems like you're putting a lot of hours into Eternal Sonata, Selphie. I demand a status update, because I think just seeing you playing it on my list is going to make me find my disc and finish Encore Mode.
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Seibei4211
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Well, I just started chapter 5 and I can do counterattacks and Harmony Chains now, so those are cool. Counterattacks are cool if you can actually pull them off. Jazz is the best character in the game, so I'm just waiting to get him back. Viola is overpowered and awesome as well. Salsa and March are kinda cool, but they die way too fast. And Claves is the most useless RPG character I've encounted...probably ever. I mean, as far as combat is concerned.

Anyway, FUCK FUGUE. That guy was a baaaastarrrrrrd. I've never seen such a cheap enemy in this game. That was such a difficulty spike and it made me waste so many Angel Trumpets. And you have to fight him with some of the most killable party members in the game. Ugh.

But yeah, I haven't actually put that many hours into it. I tend to play it for a little bit, then pause it for a couple of hours while I do other stuff, then play it some more. The fights are kind of draining and the story isn't really pulling me along, so I don't play for too long at a time. Also, is it just me, or is Fred a pedophile? He's always hanging around the underaged ones more than the adults.

Edit: Oh yeah, and after the holiday rush of games, I'm probably gonna get Star Ocean 4. I was gonna get it instead of Eternal Sonata, but they didn't have it for once.
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Star Ocean 4 is awful, make sure you finish Eternal Sonata first.

March is actually really, really good. If you get a good pair of chakrams for her, you should give her a whirl. I know her voice is a little annoying but seriously, she owns. She racks up chains like nobody's business. Though I think that might be me remembering an effect from a specific chakram. Falsetto also owns and is easily my favorite character.

Viola is way fuckin' overpowered though, especially if you can aim her shots across the map. Seriously, her damage output is criminal. My goto boss strategy for like the whole game is send Viola across the map and spam arrow shots into the boss's back or weak spot, whatever.

I think the worst parts of the game is during the parts when everyone is split up and you can't use the party you like. I like the combat system a lot but using characters I don't particularly care for (Beat) is really irritating. Though, by the end of the game, I felt comfortable with pretty much everyone (except Beat).
Seibei4211
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No, I do use March, mostly because it's one of those split sections you're talking about, but the only thing that bugs me is her attack style. I like how Salsa's attacks are more smooth and consistent. But I like that March can get a nice echo amount from her specials. And I rather don't mind Beat mainly because he can get about 12-16 echoes with very little effort and his long distance specials are decent. I'm not crazy about Falsetto. She's near the bottom of my list at the moment. I like some of her specials, but she doesn't have enough health and doesn't get quite enough echoes. Also, I base a lot of my preference on whether or not the character has really awesome-looking specials, and Jazz has my favorite of anyone's so far. I love how he treats that sword like a twig and gets a ridiculous hit radius. He can almost hit dudes behind him. It's crazy.

And yeah, I'm mostly looking at Star Ocean 4 because I know it has a fucking retarded Plat, so I wanna see how close I can get to that before giving up.
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Falsetto gets a gauntlet later that doubles her combo count when she strikes, so each hit is worth 2 hits. Coupled with her insanely fast attack speed and movement speed, she just sort of puts mobs in a blender. Also like all of her good skills cause some sort of knockback/knockdown which is great for reducing the brunt of the next enemy's onslaught. Also Snow Claw looks awesome.

"If you strike a stone, rocks are scattered. If you strike a person, the soul is scattered. Death to both!"

God, Falsetto owns.
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That would be pretty good. I still like Jazz for his ability to easily hit two enemies at once and getting two hits per strike. We'll see how awesome she is with those gloves though. I hate waiting until the end of a game for a character to stop sucking though. Apparently Claves is really good when you get her back, but at that point, who cares?
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There are a lot of good gauntlets on the way there, too. I think there's one that increases action gauge when you hit an enemy as well, so she gets to throw in a few more punches each round. Also a couple that slow an enemy while attacking.
Seibei4211
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Dude, Retto's best weapon sounds so good. 100% crit rate and action gauge increases with hits? Awesome. Actually, that second effect is so subtle that I don't even bother with it. I've got a Pocket Watch that does that and I put it on Salsa, but it barely did anything. Falsetto's weapon really is probably one of the best weapons though. I can't wait to get an accessory that lets me do that so I can put it on March.
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Oh my God, Ival, do you have any expert advice on actually succeeding in a counterattack? I know I can only counter the first attack of an enemy's turn, but it's so random when they'll ACTUALLY let me counterattack. I can't predict it, so I can't be fast enough to counterattack. I've pulled it off once and that was pure luck. I'm thinking I'll just stop trying forever because the payoff isn't big enough.
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Well, the counterattack sound is usually what I focus on. If you're in a situation where you'll die if you don't guard, just don't even bother with the counterattack. Not sure if you're at the point where your buttons start getting randomized after every enemy action yet; I can't remember which party level that's at.

The payoff is pretty huge, but the risk is about just as high.There are plenty of monsters that can easily wipe out a character in a single assault, and if that character's already damaged it can probably be done through their guard. Completely cancelling an enemies' attack and getting a free quick turn is really nice. Especially when you're dealing with asshole bosses. I think the more you get used to it, you'll find you actually have a bit of time to decide between counter and guard. Of course, it requires you to be very familiar with boss timings as well. I wouldn't even fathom counterattacks unless I know the timing of the enemies' attack from having guarded it a few times. Also, if you're going to die regardless, might as well gamble on that counter.

Oh yeah, as for actually performing it, I hover over the guard button, then if I hear the counter sound I mash counterattack if possible. As gay as this sounds, every now and then I get like a brief moment of clarity when it happens and the counter feels pretty natural. Othertimes I just settle for a guard.
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Yeah, see, before I unlocked counterattack, I eventually started just watching the word Guard and hit it when it lit up. Waiting for it to pop up took too long and sometimes I had no idea who was even being attacked and the camera angles would fuck it up even if I did know. And the sound appears a little bit after the word popped up. But this method doesn't really work that well with counterattack, because now I'm used to just hitting guard the second I see the word light up. Sometimes I'll see Counterattack and hit Guard anyway out of habit. Then if I try to hit counterattack instead, it's not available and I get hit. The timing for some attacks is ridiculous. I don't even have time to hit Guard sometimes, let alone decide whether or not I should hit Counterattack instead.

Also, it's level 6 where you get Moving Command. I think it's optional on the first playthrough, so I will probably skip it cause a friend told me you can change party levels in Encore.
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The best is the archer chick because of her long distance == greater damage ability

rapes bosses

raaaaapes bosses
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Seibei4211 wrote:

Also, it's level 6 where you get Moving Command. I think it's optional on the first playthrough, so I will probably skip it cause a friend told me you can change party levels in Encore.
That's a terrible idea. Party level 6 is the best. The randomized commands takes a little while to get used to but you get an insane amount of item slots, the ability to do 6 harmony chains, and echoes carry over between battles.
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How is that a terrible idea? The first playthrough is absolutely useless and a waste of time. The real game doesn't even start until Encore mode. If I have to lose all of my items and level progress, why should I give a shit about the first playthrough? I'm getting the score pieces and costumes and stuff, but if it doesn't carry over, I don't care about it.

And I end most battles with a special anyway, so carrying over 0 echoes isn't very helpful.

Oh, and you unlock Level 6 in Mysterious Union, so I'd rather Claves stayed dead as long as possible.
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Uhh, specials still build echoes? Unless you finish every fight with a 1 hit special. Which seems a bit arbitrary!

And it's a terrible idea because that means you're stuck with party level 5 in encore mode until you reach Mysterious Unison again.
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I've been doing pretty fine without Level 6 so far. And I usually end the match with a healing spell if I can, just to stay fresh. Viola's the only one I use Harmony Chains with so I can Sacred Strike/Healing Arrow. When I get 3 chains, I could throw in something else though. But even if I did start the match with Echoes, it's not very helpful anyway. Battles already take too much concentration as it is, so I don't feel like adding more to it. It's not like I'm playing this game because I'm totally into it. It's not something I feel like mastering or completing to 100%. I'm just killing time until school starts up again.
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Oh man, Falsetto really is pretty good. Tyr's Left Arm (action gauge increases with hits) + Werewolf Choker (double echoes) + Speed Shoes = 32 Echoes in one turn. And I've gotten better at counterattacks. I just pay attention during the first attack of an enemy's turn. Counterattacks got really awesome now that I can use special attacks in them.
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Falsetto's the bitchy one with the platinum-ish hair, right? Blue dress, if I recall? She was kind of cool.

It's been a while since I've played it.
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Yeah, she's the one. She completely sucks all the way up until the point where she gets Tyr's Left Arm, then she starts kicking monumental ass. Serenade is pretty beast, too. I underestimated her. Her Expello attack can do over 140k damage with 32 echoes. Crazy.
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Falsetto was always great, you were just blind. I mean, you liked Jazz. Come on.
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Jazz is still probably my favorite. No one can do anything to match his attack radius, he's got crazy attack power, powerful/flashy specials, ridiculous amounts of HP and defense, and he's not bad at echoes. Also, he's just a badass. The only thing he sucks at is speed. When you first get Falsetto, she's no better at echoes than Beat, and at least Beat can do that from across the map. And all of her other stats were weak aside from speed.

I know another person who's played this game to death and his favorite is Fred for some reason. And he really likes Polka because of Blossom Shower.
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Falsetto still has kickin' damage, and being across the map only matters on like the first attack. Once she's in there she's in there. I really don't care about defense and as long as someone has average HP that's workable for me. Offense is way more important.

Eh, whatever. All I'm really getting from this is pretty much everyone is viable and Viola is still op as fuck.
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So I got Party Level 6 and this is waaaaay not as bad as I thought it'd be. When I heard of Moving Command, I thought it meant that it changed your shit around after EVERY attack. Like you couldn't do a combo without changing buttons. But since it only happens during a Harmony Chain and it moves right after you hit the right button, it's easy. I can still mash on the Special button to do a chain like I usually do. Easy, but annoying. Also, no one mentioned that you keep echoes after a Harmony chain, too.
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Ok, I didn't know Encore mode was also a difficulty increase. Good thing I went for Party Level 6. Ival was totally right about that. I was right about Encore being the real game though. This is what an RPG is supposed to be like. You have to grind and work to be stronger than the enemies instead of walking in and being able to destroy everyone. There might even be some sort of strategy involved with some bosses. Cause seriously, I beat Annihilator in less than 2 minutes with no items and that's ridiculous. Maybe he might manage to kill someone on Encore.
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Yeah, encore is the serious stuff. I still need to finish my run actually, I think Tuba on the bridge killed my spirit and motivation previously.
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Yeah, I read that that guy was serious business. I'm gonna have to grind it up like a bitch to get through him. If only the game didn't split up your party all the time. Like now that I know Falsetto is good, it's gonna piss me off when I won't be allowed to use her forever.
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You have to grind and work to be stronger than the enemies
that's the hallmark of a badly designed RPG, actually. Knowledge and strategy should be able to trump modest level differences. If a game requires you to grind in order to succeed, it's just Dragon Warrior not fun
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Well, it's not so much that you have to, it's more that lenience is reduced to nearly zero on encore, so if you're not on point with your counter attacks and guards you'll probably end up dead.

Eternal Sonata is way more skill based than it is level based, aside from learning techniques, anyhow. If you can survive a round by the enemies you can probably win any fight; the rest is just threat mitigation.
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When you guard/counter every attack and you're still getting massive damage, I don't see how that has anything to do with skill. And that wouldn't be a problem if you could actually heal yourself without items between battles, but I can only hold 99 Peach Cookies and that goes down quickly after a dozen fights. So when I got to Fort Fermata and kept getting brutally hurt after every single fight, I knew I wouldn't be able to get through the whole thing. I had to run all the way back to Agogo Village and kill goats until Viola hit level 15 for Heal Arrow. Now I'm doing pretty good. Took me a few hours to do all of that though. Very annoying.
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Because levels wouldn't even be a factor if you weren't guarding/countering; you would just be dead. Levels are really only important for learning critical techniques.
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HP and speed. I wouldn't want to be at 900 max HP still and I wouldn't want to attack last in every battle. And I have to be at a high level for guarding attacks to even save me from massive damage. And I'm not just talking about one single fight. I'm talking about when you have to fight a dozen fights in a row and they all take a chunk out of your HP with every fight. Before I got Heal Arrow, that wasn't going to ever work. I literally could not hold enough healing items to get me through that dungeon and Fred/Polka friggin' suuuuck at healing at level 12. The more accessories I get and the more abilities I get, the easier it'll be to get through this, but until I get the game-breaking Falsetto set-up, it's gonna be annoying.
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Man, Atelier Rorona is such an awesome game. Not really challenging but still pretty fun regardless.

I don't know how I've gone this long without playing it.
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Atelier Rorona was the first game I've ever gotten 100% on. I enjoyed it as well!

I bought Agarest War Zero, Last Rebellion, and Alice: Madness Returns within this month.

Agarest War Zero was.... I don't know... not worth 60 dollars imo. Battles are long as heck -_-
Last Rebellion is mehhh, doing the same thing every battle gets boring. 15 dollar game is 15 dollar game.
Alice is pretty cool, Nightmare difficulty is fun to play on. Love the combat and how it goes all slow-mo when slashing enemies :>

But omg, White Knight Chronicles 2!!! Can't wait!

Edit: Oh shi- Atelier Totori in September as well!!
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You guys barely buy any PSN games huh? Shame on you. I've bought Outland and Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes a week ago, awesome stuff. Still need to get PixelJunk Shooter 2.

Btw. do you only buy games with anime-styled characters Mafiamaster ?_? You might want to check out some reviews before "wasting" 60 $. :P
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Nharox wrote:

You guys barely buy any PSN games huh? Shame on you.
I'd buy Wizardry if it were actually available in my region.
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Nharox wrote:

You guys barely buy any PSN games huh? Shame on you.
I'd buy Wizardry if it were actually available in my region.
Do what I did, made a faux US account and just get online delivered $20/50 PSN cards.
I also have a Japanese account as well. :D

It's how I got my 'copy' of Record of Agarest War.
If you need help setting one up give me buzz as I've helped a few friends out before.
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Nharox wrote:

You guys barely buy any PSN games huh? Shame on you. I've bought Outland and Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes a week ago, awesome stuff. Still need to get PixelJunk Shooter 2.

Btw. do you only buy games with anime-styled characters Mafiamaster ?_? You might want to check out some reviews before "wasting" 60 $. :P
I own Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes, so...

I didn't even gameshare that one, I actually threw money at it. I usually don't throw money at things.
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ampzz wrote:

Do what I did, made a faux US account and just get online delivered $20/50 PSN cards.
I also have a Japanese account as well. :D
That's too much effort just to play a game that should already be on the AU PSN and has no real reason for not being on there other than our shitty ratings board.
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That's too much effort just to play a game that should already be on the AU PSN and has no real reason for not being on there other than our shitty ratings board.
The games are cheaper, believe me and I also get better download speed for the US PSN for some strange reason.
Oh, let's not forgetting how regularly updated our PSN Store is..
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ampzz wrote:

Oh, let's not forgetting how regularly updated our PSN Store is..
Every Thursday?
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Nharox wrote:

You guys barely buy any PSN games huh? Shame on you. I've bought Outland and Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes a week ago, awesome stuff. Still need to get PixelJunk Shooter 2.

Btw. do you only buy games with anime-styled characters Mafiamaster ?_? You might want to check out some reviews before "wasting" 60 $. :P
There's just honestly not enough good games that are released on the PSN that I feel like spending money on. I'm always looking out for good ones, but the PSN just doesn't have a lot of great exclusives. I do have, like, 15 or so games that I bought, but it's rare for awesome games to come out.

And yeah, I don't think I've ever seen Mafiamaster play anything but anime-style/RPG games. But apparently he's played a grand total of four games that aren't.
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True enough since I don't like fps games.

Nharox wrote:

You might want to check out some reviews before "wasting" 60 $.
It's fine, if it's an anime style game with a cute girl on the front, I'd buy it.
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Mafiamaster has the best taste in games.

Also, Atelier Rorona is so much concentrated own that I am without a doubt getting Atelier Totori on day one.
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I have to wait over a week for The Baconing. I haven't spent the full $15 on a Deathspank game yet, and though Deathspank wasn't worth 15 (definitely worth 7.50 though) Thongs of Virtue was, so I'm hoping The Baconing is at least as good.

and even though I got Dead Nation for free I play the shit out of that game I have completed it at least a dozen times
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Yeah, see, that's weird. I thought DeathSpank 1 was better than 2. I just didn't like how they replaced my crossbow with inferior guns. But The Baconing should be pretty beast. The Hero Cards look like they do a lot more things and everything just looks improved in general. I mean, it looks like they didn't just make this at the same time as the other two games, so there should be some gameplay improvements to make it different compared to the others. Like now you can reflect projectiles and stuff. Can't wait for that.
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I thought Thongs of Virtue was more value than Deathspank because I remember the game being 2 to 3 times as long.

also pirate ships
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This just might be the end of the rope for my stupid, God forsaken Encore run on Eternal Sonata. That pirate ship was so fucking ridiculous and Dolce was even worse. It took me five tries or something to finally get lucky enough to beat her. But now I have to beat this stupid motherfucker in the mirror and he's so damn OP. Even if you block his stuff, he takes away half of your HP. And he almost always goes two turns in a row. It doesn't take a mathmetician to know that equals fucked.

Edit: Wow, I beat it. My torture continues.
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So...I was looking through the US RPG list on GameFAQs to see if I could find another RPG that'll take me several dozens of hours to beat like Eternal Sonata. Cause, you know, I'm trying to save up some money for the fall games, so I can't spend $50/$60 on a 10 hour game.

Anyway, I found two games that look pretty interesting, but one isn't out yet. I look at stuff like Cross Edge, Hyperdimension Neptunia, Trinity Universe, Atelier Rorona, etc. Basically all of the games Mafiamaster has played. The one that looks the coolest, though, is Ar tonelico Qoga: Knights of Knell. (By God, I think I spelled the whole thing right from memory. *checks* Oh, nope. It's Ciel.) I almost think I should buy that online though. It might be embarassing if someone actually knows what that game is.

The other one I'm looking at is Rune Factory: Tides of Destiny. Even though it's a friggin' Harvest Moon game, the combat is in that Kingdom Hearts/Nier style, so whatever. It's at least worth a look.
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I heard Ar Tonelico 2 was straight up better than 3, so I haven't gone out of my way to play 3 yet so that I can preserve my love for the series. And by series I mean just 2. Also, you should stay the hell away from every other game you mentioned in that anime list (except Atelier Rorona).

I didn't even know a ps3 Rune Factory was even a thing, though. I played like the second one on DS and thought it was horseshit but I heard the 3rd one was good. Have literally heard nothing about the ps3 one though so I'll probably end up waiting a while before I consider taking the plunge on that.

Disgaea 4 is out soon anyway, what else do you need.
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I thought Cross Edge was pretty fine, though once you master the entire system you'll clear any boss in the first turn with decent equipment. Haven't got the end-game content yet though, so...

Trinity Universe was a sleepfest. Too easy, I didn't bother getting True End. Might get that in the end.

Hyperdimension Neptunia isn't so bad, but once again once you master the system all fights become easy as heck. The lack of work put into it is painfully obvious though.

Atelier Rorona is awesome. Can't beat the final boss. Yet. Will get down to it once I clear my other RPGs. Which will never happen.

Ar Tonelico Qoga is...troll, in a good way.

To add to my problems, Disgaea 4 AND Atelier Totori are coming out.
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If your PS3 is backwards compatible with PS2 and you want to play an RPG, you're better off looking at the PS2. Plenty of strong titles there.
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I looked at sample battles from each of those games, and the only ones I liked were the two I mentioned. They're the only basically real-time battle systems out of all of those games. Since there aren't any PS3 Tales titles in the US right now (I think), I had to try something new. I forgot to really even look at Disgaea 4, but it's still a tactical RPG, and I'm still not really into those. I looked at a battle for Atelier and I think the voice actors would drive me insane. That, and it's turn-based and what have you. But yeah, Rune Factory 3 is the one coming to PS3, apparently. It's the same as the Wii one, I think.

Anyway, yeah, if you've got any other suggestions that I haven't looked at, let me know, Ival. Cause you suggested Resonance of Fate and that's probably the best RPG I've ever played.

awp: I've got my PS2 still cause my PS3 isn't BC. I'm trying to find new games though. I'm trying to see if there are any new series that I can look forward to in the future. I'm not desperate enough for games to look that far back yet.
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Persona 4 is one of the best JRPGs I've ever played

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Atelier Rorona really isn't about battling at all. I'm honestly not even sure if I'd recommend it to you. I mean, it's still one of my favorite games ever, but that's mainly due to its characters/scenes, and not so much the gameplay.

I'm surprised you hold me in such high regard, Selphie. Though, if you haven't played persona 4 you should seriously play that. And persona 3. It doesn't matter how old they are, just fucking play them. Persona 5 should be coming in the future, especially now that Catherine is done and everything.
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Do you mean Rune Factory 4?

The third one was released on DS, and Oceans was a spinoff title for the Wii, although I think they also released a demo for another wii version that didn't get finished...
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I'm slowly working my way to finishing Persona 4, so I can be ready for the animation.

And wow, Naoto is a pretty cool reverse trap. Might cosplay as her but I'm probably late to the party.
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Also, battles in Atelier Rorona will never bother me because Cordelia is a fucking loli gangster. This is from Totori but whatever, she's only slightly less awesome in Rorona.

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Azure_Kyte wrote:

Do you mean Rune Factory 4?

The third one was released on DS, and Oceans was a spinoff title for the Wii, although I think they also released a demo for another wii version that didn't get finished...
Yeah, it's Oceans, except they're calling it Tides of Destiny. And it's coming out in a month, on the same day as the Team ICO Collection, which means I won't be looking at it until later.

Ivalset wrote:

Atelier Rorona really isn't about battling at all. I'm honestly not even sure if I'd recommend it to you. I mean, it's still one of my favorite games ever, but that's mainly due to its characters/scenes, and not so much the gameplay.

I'm surprised you hold me in such high regard, Selphie. Though, if you haven't played persona 4 you should seriously play that. And persona 3. It doesn't matter how old they are, just fucking play them. Persona 5 should be coming in the future, especially now that Catherine is done and everything.
I've looked at a shitload of Persona 3 walkthrough videos, and the battles aren't bad, but you gotta spend so much time with the simulation stuff. Like, you really do or you can't get better personas. But yeah, those battles are fairly strategical, but it is turn-based. The next turn-based game I'll probably get is FFXIII-2, if I get it. I need to borrow TWEWY from my friend to finally see what all the fuss is with that game, too.
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Honestly, the non-tartarus stuff doesn't take that much time and you honestly don't need any of the max level personas. Except maybe emperor, and that's really only for one strategy. It doesn't even feel like it's that time consuming. The days go by quickly and you'll be getting a bunch of event scenes and shit which should be entertaining at least.

It's not like the plot is shitty, either.
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I want more games like Resonance of Fate. You get 3 characters. That's it. You get three kinds of weapons. It's simple, yet incredibly fun and strategic. Then you get games like Eternal Sonata that give you 12. Then you get Persona where there's a hundred something personas and even the same persona can have different skill sets. There are only 3 playable characters in Ar tonelico, right? And then there's the...what's-it that does the song magic bullshit I don't even know. But there's just one of those in a battle. That sounds fine. Also, I don't understand it yet, but I like how the integrate the music into the battle. Really different.
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But the same persona will generally have similar skill sets. And you can only change persona for the main character anyway; the other three party members have fixed personas and fixed skill sets (though you can choose what gets overwritten in 4, there aren't any hard decisions on that front).

Also, I'm pretty sure purchasing Qoga will put you on several different pedophile watchlists. I just care about your well being, Selphie.

Just promise me that if you play Qoga you'll go back and play Ar Tonelico 2 sometime.
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Yeah, yeah, I know about the teammates getting the same stuff. And really, I guess you only need personas that can do all of the elemental attacks. And you'd want to have two that can do a healing move for you and stuff. I hate how you get tired in that game if you fight too much though. You gotta grind over several days, which hurts your social life and stuff.

I know a guy who bought Dead or Alive. In person. I might send him in to get the game for me. He's actually heard of the game and wants to try it, too. I really wish the chicks in that game didn't have to be so young-looking, but whatever, I'm just in it for the combat. And that's exactly what I'll tell them in court.

You said Ar tonelico 3 was the first one to be done in 3D, right? And it's the first one with a real-time battle system. Golden Sun is the only one that gets away with being a pixelated, turn-based battle system. I was surprised as hell that Cross Edge was 2D, too.
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Seibei4211 wrote:

I hate how you get tired in that game if you fight too much though.
I'm actually the opposite. And I was disappointed when I found out SP-recovery items and the fox are not that hard to come by. My first time playing through Yukiko's dungeon I wanted to push onward as far as I could, but each floor is more dangerous than the last and my party was getting increasingly tired, and there was a huge risk/reward going on there. The lack of mid-dungeon savepoints was also a welcomed aspect. Don't exactly know how I feel about cleared-floor warps though. If you had to push through the entire dungeon to complete it (as oppose to clear 4 floors, rest, then start on floor 5 as it is) it'd be a bit more immersive.

If you're worried about your party being tired and having to grind over several days, two things:
- Grinding isn't really necessary until around GAME (though Yukiko gave me quite a challenge my first time)
- SP (aka party fatigue) becomes a non-issue fairly early on in the game. By the third or fourth dungeon.
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Wow, look here Selphie, Golden Sun is a piece of shit game compared to Ar Tonelico 2. It's kid stuff. The battle system in AT2 owns hard because if your timing is good enough, you can perfect guard like everything and come out unscathed. (The game actually breaks a little if you specialize your characters with effects that slacken the perfect guard timing, but whatever) Plus each character has a bunch of different attacks with various properties and there's just a whole lot of fucking fun going on. I won't allow you to compare that piece of shit Golden Sun to the masterpiece that is Ar Tonelico 2. Not on my watch, nigga.

As for persona, a distinction needs to be made. Persona 3 has a tiredness mechanic, persona 4 does not. The mechanic in persona 3 is related to your character level and pretty much stops being relevant past level 20 or so. You'll still get tired after storyline boss missions and other random things, but those end up just dictating when you can journey into Tartarus, not how long you stay there. Which I realize isn't really optimal either, but it's a hell of a lot better than the latter. As far as SP management is concerned, there are plenty of skills that can help you manage that, as awp lightly touched on.
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