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Randy96
solo queue sucks anyway
Colin Hou
<--------- only Lv. 28 Orz.

and I'm at CN/ChinaTel-1 T^T
Two_old

Ephemeral wrote:

elo dont mean shit in solo son. you can carry until the cows come home but if your init/tank is shit, you're done
gj not understanding what you were replying to but, for the sake of argument, yes low elo does mean you are a bad player
Hiyorin
Glass
3rd day in a row the NA server goes down for jackshit. Riot es best
Randy96

Two wrote:

Ephemeral wrote:

elo dont mean shit in solo son. you can carry until the cows come home but if your init/tank is shit, you're done
gj not understanding what you were replying to but, for the sake of argument, yes low elo does mean you are a bad player
not in solo queue
Fabi
At EU, there is always queue to enter to the server. Im always waiting for 1 hour just to enter ;__;
ElxBeta
This is when EU server is about to explode.

Thank you for you great service Riot.
Randy96
lol both US and EU servers gg
Glass
1 hour 30 minutes queue on EU, fuck this.
ElxBeta
NA server is up.

inb4 1 hour queque

Edit: Awesome, games are screwed up again. I heard that all of this is happening because of the division of the EU server. Sucks huh?
Fabi
Playing at USA server while EU maintenance is done :P. Didnt know, switching just take few minutes.

On a side note: Bugs everywhere, constant technical issues, aaaaah - _-
f e a r
Stoopid riot is stoopid :/ cant play akali if servers r down orz
Gabi
Server has split, will transfer to west ASAP, meanwhile enjoying 15 days of free IP boost 8-)
TKiller
why is my nickname on EU (East?) taken by a guy who gets no AD for yi and stacks AP for Zilean :(
tyrael6192
Ahah, awesome IP boost.

Anyways i've been playing the game some more (as Kassadin) and i'm starting to notice that, much of the time, our turrets and inhibitors start to get smashed BEFORE we can push on into their base and take their Nexus. I have this moment in the last 10 mins of the game that they're going to win, and then miraculously we start working as a team and push back.

My question is, does this often happen, or am i/other random solo queuers just bad at teamwork?

(suspect it might somewhat be the latter)
ElxBeta
It happens A LOT, at least in my case, I've won a lot of matches after almost surrendering and/or being defeated, an ace or an ambush can make the difference you know.
Randy96
We were at mid
...
Ace!
Turret destroyed
Turret destroyed
Inhibitor destroyed
Turret destroyed
Inhibitor destroyed
Turret destroyed
Turret destroyed
VICTORY

True story
Fabi
Fucking glorious 404 PI *__*
Glass
sing es #1 troll en brasil

and ya im smurfing with some newb frens huehue
Randy96
Smurfs kind of ruin the low level experience =/

Unless you give them advice while you own them then that justifies it
Glass
nah I do it so my buddies can have an easier time against smurfs on opposing teams, and also because they won't be able to handle level 20s if I play on my lv30 lol

and that I like it when 5 people start chasing me and 2 of them end up dying...
f e a r

Glass wrote:

sing es #1 troll en brasil

and ya im smurfing with some newb frens huehue

SING ES NUMERO #1 L0lOlOLOLlOLolOL
Topic Starter
Lybydose

Randy96 wrote:

Smurfs kind of ruin the low level experience =/

Unless you give them advice while you own them then that justifies it
nah, after a few games you get put on "smurf island" and every game is like 9/10 smurfs.
ElxBeta

I love Anivia.
Chuggles
I spend too much time on this game....

Level 30, with all but 4 champions.. and 12386 takedowns :(

Started playing HoN though, as it is £6, so I thought it would be good, and if you like LoL, you'd like HoN. :P
tyrael6192
So i played some Twisted Treeline earlier today, and found it much easier than Summoner's - not just in terms of pushes being much easier. I got a lot more early game ganks (as Kassadin) than on Summoner's and got on with mah build much quicker.

inb4 coolstorybro.jpg

Side note: YAY no more login queues =D
Randy96

tyrael6192 wrote:

So i played some Twisted Treeline earlier today, and found it much easier than Summoner's - not just in terms of pushes being much easier. I got a lot more early game ganks (as Kassadin) than on Summoner's and got on with mah build much quicker.

inb4 coolstorybro.jpg

Side note: YAY no more login queues =D
coolstorybro.png

lol Twisted Treeline is more fun in my opinion too
Two_old

Chuggles wrote:

and if you like LoL, you'd like HoN. :P
no
Nekoroll

Two wrote:

Chuggles wrote:

and if you like LoL, you'd like HoN. :P
no
TKiller
If you play too much Twisted Treeline you'll get cancer.


Which champion can jungle well without specific runes or even masteries? I always sucked at it, but wanna try again.
Topic Starter
Lybydose
Xin Zhao, Warwick, Trundle, Nunu, probably Udyr

You really need at least 8 points in Utility for the exp mastery though.
Chuggles

Two wrote:

Chuggles wrote:

and if you like LoL, you'd like HoN. :P
no
It's a bit more complicated but the basics are the same - ganking, farming, teamfights... it's a bit harder in that the items are a bit IMO, but it's got more champions, as is really fun :D
Randy96

Lybydose wrote:

Xin Zhao, Warwick, Trundle, Nunu, probably Udyr

You really need at least 8 points in Utility for the exp mastery though.
I dunno bout the others but Udyr jungle is horrible without runes
Topic Starter
Lybydose

Randy96 wrote:

Lybydose wrote:

Xin Zhao, Warwick, Trundle, Nunu, probably Udyr

You really need at least 8 points in Utility for the exp mastery though.
I dunno bout the others but Udyr jungle is horrible without runes
actually no, it works just fine
Shiro


Sorry, I had to post this.
Yes, I'm a noob.
Backstabber_old
I wonder. What makes a person want NOT to play a map perfectionised over 6 years, and instead take an unbalanced new one?

Also, if you like fun you will like HoN. But HoN was really only good up too like 8-10 months ago. Now they have realized DotA 2 is on the way, and they are spewing out skins and heroes for people to buy. And that leads to no time for game and hero balancing.
Two_old

Backstabber wrote:

Also, if you like fun you will like HoN.
if I ever decide to become a comedian, I will first look to the internet for inspiration
Suzumiya-H
IGN: Suzumiya H
Server: North American Server

IGN: HaruhiSuzu
Server: Europe West

Add me up.
TKiller
"Let's reduce Annie's abilities damage while increasing her ratios, then reduce them both in the next patch!" fuck you, Riot :(
Suzumiya-H
Dude, they're nerfing corki, what the fuck :(
TKiller
well, Corki did need some
Two_old
everyone with a built in flash needs to be looked at imo
Tshemmp
imo LoL does not require so much skill as DotA. You don't have to be good to be good. Ofcourse it has some comfortable functions which the 6 years older DotA does not have. But DotA 2 will solve this Problem.
Glass
fuck yeah galio buffs
tyrael6192

Two wrote:

everyone with a built in flash needs to be looked at imo
Nowai. Leave Kassadin out of this.
Backstabber_old

Tshemmp wrote:

imo LoL does not require so much skill as DotA. You don't have to be good to be good. Ofcourse it has some comfortable functions which the 6 years older DotA does not have. But DotA 2 will solve this Problem.
This. Cant wait for DotA 2. I have REALLY high hopes for it, and so does the competitive community. I believe valve have a really high pressure on this one, but again, that's what they're used to
Selee

TKiller wrote:

If you play too much Twisted Treeline you'll get cancer.


Which champion can jungle well without specific runes or even masteries? I always sucked at it, but wanna try again.
Also Olaf ~

btw, I'm in North America server~ ID:Seleex

Feel free to PM me for games xD
Suzumiya-H

Tshemmp wrote:

imo LoL does not require so much skill as DotA. You don't have to be good to be good. Ofcourse it has some comfortable functions which the 6 years older DotA does not have. But DotA 2 will solve this Problem.

While it doesn't, it provides more "fun" factor, which is what ultimately is what a game should be. LoL is fun because you get to try out different things that you wouldn't dream of seeing in DotA.

As for built in flash, not really, imo what they should look at is the champions that are weak(heimer, veigar etc~ that not many ppl play) this will create diversity in picks which will ultimately benefit everyone.
Towjow
I wanna see my Poppy buffed :( iirc she hasnt been touched by Riot for ages. I still do well with her solo top, but a built in LS like Irelias W would be really nice .___.
TKiller

Suzumiya-H wrote:

Tshemmp wrote:

imo LoL does not require so much skill as DotA. You don't have to be good to be good. Ofcourse it has some comfortable functions which the 6 years older DotA does not have. But DotA 2 will solve this Problem.

While it doesn't, it provides more "fun" factor, which is what ultimately is what a game should be. LoL is fun because you get to try out different things that you wouldn't dream of seeing in DotA.

As for built in flash, not really, imo what they should look at is the champions that are weak(heimer, veigar etc~ that not many ppl play) this will create diversity in picks which will ultimately benefit everyone.
Heimer and Veigar (rofl) are not weak by a long shot. Veigar does rely on earlygame a lot tho, but well, who does not?
yeahyeahyeahhh



Like a boss.
Towjow
Jarvan 83 cs, wtf. I guess this was low/mid elo?
Topic Starter
Lybydose
you get tons of cs in the jungle
ElxBeta

KAYLE ES NUMERO ONE
Shiro
Glad to see I'm not the only one who gets tons of deaths with Leona.
Towjow

Lybydose wrote:

you get tons of cs in the jungle
Strange, I've always seen jungle jarvans with wriggles and at least 150 cs.
yeahyeahyeahhh

Towjow wrote:

Lybydose wrote:

you get tons of cs in the jungle
Strange, I've always seen jungle jarvans with wriggles and at least 150 cs.
U can't get 150 CS when ur getting counter jungled 24/7

wait nm i rem, tryna was jungle. Jarv was bot vs Cait and Kog... have fun getting CS
Towjow

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

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U can't get 150 CS when ur getting counter jungled 24/7

wait nm i rem, tryna was jungle. Jarv was bot vs Cait and Kog... have fun getting CS
Oh yea, it's hard to get cs as non ranged bot :s If the enemies would have had a support to support jarvan, it might look bit different tho.
Suzumiya-H

TKiller wrote:

Suzumiya-H wrote:

While it doesn't, it provides more "fun" factor, which is what ultimately is what a game should be. LoL is fun because you get to try out different things that you wouldn't dream of seeing in DotA.

As for built in flash, not really, imo what they should look at is the champions that are weak(heimer, veigar etc~ that not many ppl play) this will create diversity in picks which will ultimately benefit everyone.
Heimer and Veigar (rofl) are not weak by a long shot. Veigar does rely on earlygame a lot tho, but well, who does not?
They are. Heimer provides nothing more than defences for towers when he can't even defend himself, he also deals mediocre damage for an "AP carry" and steals quite a lot of farm which could've been used for other things.

veigar admittedly is not weak, however, his escape mechanism is really low, and he only really deals good damage on mages, other than that unless he's really fed, veigar is undeniably weak. His laning phase is quite weak tbh.

In normal games, yes but in elo higher than 1300, they're considered as weak and I haven't seen any good veigars/heimer above it, tehy barely pick them
yeahyeahyeahhh
I once went 18-6 vs Chaox in rank with Veigar IDK wut u talkin bout
f e a r
VEIGAROP LOL WUT U TALKING ABOUT
Towjow

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

I once went 18-6 vs Chaox in rank with Veigar IDK wut u talkin bout
How can you play ranked against Chaox when your elo is way below his? oO That's some real matchmaking there LOL.
Randy96
Yeah it's possible, a friend of mine vsed HaoZ and 2 other similar ELO players when they were only 1400
Backstabber_old
HoN just went free to play. I belive a lot of HoN players might migrate to LoL now, and vice versa.
yeahyeahyeahhh

Towjow wrote:

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

I once went 18-6 vs Chaox in rank with Veigar IDK wut u talkin bout
How can you play ranked against Chaox when your elo is way below his? oO That's some real matchmaking there LOL.
Chaox wasn't always as high/ I wasn't always at low. When I actually bothered to play ranked we were in the same elo. Also, my normal elo is the same at many of the top players so I've played again 2.1k+ players all the time. Stop assuming I'm bad
Towjow

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

Chaox wasn't always as high/ I wasn't always at low. When I actually bothered to play ranked we were in the same elo. Also, my normal elo is the same at many of the top players so I've played again 2.1k+ players all the time. Stop assuming I'm bad
I'm not assuming that you're bad (my elo is lower than yours anyways since I haven't played ranked a lot, only got high normal elo hahaha). I just couldn't believe that matchmaking was THAT bad okay. I never got queued with anyone who had an elo difference that was higher than 200 :c, so I was kinda wondering. That's all there is to this.
Fabi
Fucking overrated ranked system. Kids everywhere talking shit before starting the match, stupid elo system :@, how the fuck people tell you "noob" when they dont even know what is to lasthit a creep?. I hate the ranked system my God.
Towjow

Ever17 wrote:

Fucking overrated ranked system. Kids everywhere talking shit before starting the match, stupid elo system :@, how the fuck people tell you "noob" when they dont even know what is to lasthit a creep?. I hate the ranked system my God.
It's not overrated, it's broken. Or rather the matchmaking system imho.
Suzumiya-H
It doesn't prove whatsoever that veigar is OP, nor does it prove that veigar is not UP. I can own with Master Yi against any player, but is he considered op?

* Tier 4: Tryndamere, Malphite, Garen, Nasus, Trundle, Veigar, Sivir, Olaf, Pantheon, Heimerdinger, Yi
Explain that.

Veigar damagewise is good, could even outburst any AP champ, but if you look at his mobility, the range of his skill and his laning phase, he falls quite hard. Have you ever laned veigar against vlad, malz or even nidalee? They own veigar, which is what veigar will definitely most likely to face against, and do you know what those guys have that veigar doesn't? Sustainability, and most of them have a good ability to escape.

And please, if you're owning Chaosx please give me a replay in a ranked AT, not solo queue, even HotshotGG/Bigfatjiji lose on solo queue.


As for Elo, some people queue with substantially higher elo so you'll definitely will get queued with soemone with 1600+ elo. For example, I queue'd with my friend from 1200+ elo and I was 1400, we were faced with 1300 elo. Matchmaking system imo is fair, it can't be perfect as sometimes it will screw up but not too often to be called broken.
yeahyeahyeahhh
ITT: Baddies.
Souduh
I play every now and then. My Summoner name is the same name you see here. I'm not that great though so forgive me if you try to play with me.
Gabi
TF is pretty annoying to play now that they nerfed his ulti range, it's reaaaally small :|

Must try this udyr build sometime.

Randy96
AP UDYR?
Topic Starter
Lybydose
AP UDYR es #2 always win never lose except to morde huehue
Glass
eveline #1 bad en brasil all ways run never fight coward champ fdp
lukewarmholiday
Master Yi is under the radar OP in this meta Protips.

Play Yi like jax and build wriggles, youmuus, trinity and skirmish like jax. Of course jax scales better, and you're useless outside of jungle.
yeahyeahyeahhh

lukewarmholiday wrote:

Master Yi is under the radar OP in this meta Protips.

Play Yi like jax and build wriggles, youmuus, trinity and skirmish like jax. Of course jax scales better, and you're useless outside of jungle.
I think if cyclone read trinity he'd be crying ATM
zsr123

TKiller
every goddamn time there is a faggot who steals the fifth kill and now it happened twice in the last game



argh
Randy96

lukewarmholiday wrote:

Master Yi is under the radar OP in this meta Protips.

Play Yi like jax and build wriggles, youmuus, trinity and skirmish like jax. Of course jax scales better, and you're useless outside of jungle.
:o :o :o :o :o
Luke? is that you
TKiller
And some Alistar stole my pentakill again, which makes it fourth time today.

Can I just have my penta? :(
lukewarmholiday

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

lukewarmholiday wrote:

Master Yi is under the radar OP in this meta Protips.

Play Yi like jax and build wriggles, youmuus, trinity and skirmish like jax. Of course jax scales better, and you're useless outside of jungle.
I think if cyclone read trinity he'd be crying ATM
Idk being tankier and getting that movespeed + slow is extremely nice, being able to do a pretty staggering amount of burst is also nice, and I usually pocket a vamp scepter in my 5th slot until I can build something better.(IE or BV) Zeal, phage and sheen are all amazing incremental items on Yi.

Seriously you get 2 procs with double strike how is that not amazing.(Queue a double strike before moving in, alpha strike, mash E, double strike with trinity procs, OUCH) Your job is to blow up squishies and snowball the team should you need to teamfight, you aren't gimping your 1v1 building this way really.

I build everyone bulky what can I say.
Cyclone
You wouldn't get 2 procs though, and at that point all your abilities are on cd. For a slow you simply grab red buff, or just outrun them, considering you are master yi. I'm not saying triforce is bad, but it's not one of his best items. Youmus is the single greatest item a yi can build, then you just get lifesteal and attackspeed(wriggles starks)

It's A cheap and effective build imo. If I want more ms or damage I usually just grab a phantom dancer.
TKiller
Isn't atmog build plain better if you want to be bulky?
lukewarmholiday

TKiller wrote:

Isn't atmog build plain better if you want to be bulky?
No because there is a 5000~ gold period where the only stat increasing is your defense.

Cyclone wrote:

You wouldn't get 2 procs though, and at that point all your abilities are on cd. For a slow you simply grab red buff, or just outrun them, considering you are master yi. I'm not saying triforce is bad, but it's not one of his best items. Youmus is the single greatest item a yi can build, then you just get lifesteal and attackspeed(wriggles starks)

It's A cheap and effective build imo. If I want more ms or damage I usually just grab a phantom dancer.
wriggles youmuus is the Yi staple I still build that first, there is really no reason not to since the youmuus active fits perfectly with E and R. Starks lets you be that 1v1/1v2 god but I like building overall more tanky. Triforce and BV let me sit about 2.6k. I don't think either of them are bad since they're both cheap builds that let you play fairly consistent(I only call Triforce cheap because the individual items are good) The one thing I didn't like about triforce is that im losing out on that lifesteal but vamp scepter is only 450 and I start picking that up if I feel someones beating me in a straight up 1v1.
thefran_old
Oh jolly.

> team needs jungler
> pick udyr
> entire enemy team has blinks
> everyone also has flash

Ganking has never been so much "fun"
Randy96

thefran wrote:

Oh jolly.

> team needs jungler
> pick udyr
> entire enemy team has blinks
> everyone also has flash

Ganking has never been so much "fun"
I feel your pain
thefran_old
Also guess whom did they blame for everything ever.

In rare occasions where I did catch anything someone would just cast a nuke at the last second when tiger dot is on.
Somehow, people tend to forget how I peeled stuff off them the whole game. Eventually winning it by acting as a goddamn guardian angel to our fed carries.
But then again, this is tanking in solo Q, what do I expect?

In other news: Udyr with blue still unkillable. Film at eleven.

Also I picked up Akali. I really need a summoner name change to xXx-666-A$$A$$1NAT0R-xXx so that I could legitimately instalock her.
Randy96

thefran wrote:

tiger
ElxBeta
Man I can't wait for skarner and dominion.

That's the most exiting champion I've ever seen after Renekton, and about domination I have no words.

Oh, and by the way, MORDE ES #1
yeahyeahyeahhh


12-5
10-6
10-6
STILL LOSE
CANT CARRY 2 BADS HALP
Two_old
For all we know the reason why any of you had 10+ kills is because of their deaths. I don't even understand why you would play malzahar instead of a hard carry if you are as good as you think you are.
thefran_old

Randy96 wrote:

thefran wrote:

tiger
Well, it's a pity Udyr only has three skills.

That is, Tiger, Bear and Turtle.
Jalatiphra
iam looking for somebody to play solo ranked on EU west with me.
you should have around ~1550 elo +-100 is fine

as me beeing mostly AP/AD player you should be able to handle jungle or toplane.


pm me if you are interested.

just to inform you, iam not a hardcore lol gamer but iam taking this serious, we can go for 2-4 games a day, but not 6 hours :)
yeahyeahyeahhh

Two wrote:

For all we know the reason why any of you had 10+ kills is because of their deaths. I don't even understand why you would play malzahar instead of a hard carry if you are as good as you think you are.
Considering half or all their deaths came from bot lane or just being stupid out in the jungle solo, you're wrong.

Lol do you only come on osu! forums to shit talk about LoL? Fucking bronze kid please find your way back to the LoL forums. Let me help you find your way:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/for ... ay.php?f=2
dvorak_old
Play with premade, then you don't need to complain.

Normal is cake anyway.
Glass
ain't that easy to get a premade of 5, most of the time I only queue with in 3 or 4s and the pubs almost always manage to play like shit

and no, normal isn't "cake"
TKiller
I think I actually lost more in premades than in solo, but that's cause not everyone in my friendlist is good and in a lot of cases we spend more time making silly jokes on skype rather than actually paying attention to game.

But that's still fun, so whatever :D

Or maybe I'm just lucky with matchmaking.
yeahyeahyeahhh

TKiller wrote:

I think I actually lost more in premades than in solo, but that's cause not everyone in my friendlist is good and in a lot of cases we spend more time making silly jokes on skype rather than actually paying attention to game.

But that's still fun, so whatever :D

Or maybe I'm just lucky with matchmaking.
So true,

Spent a whole 30-40 mins last night /laughing with Lux while playing with lybydose and my friend.


It was fucking hilarious.
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