I'm sorry ;__;
At least now I'm known for reckless, risky moves.
But, what if I'm not Doctor~ My plan could be working.
At least now I'm known for reckless, risky moves.
But, what if I'm not Doctor~ My plan could be working.
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Well, if you are not the doctor, thing will get interesting (I can already see mafias being confused)
Day 2 is going to be my Last Resort.
Let's do this!
After the long commercial break...(srsly)
Let's do this!
After the long commercial break...(srsly)
Alright so the last few pages have simply been a huge confusing mess so let's get some actual discussion going.
If you were to guess the mafia right now, who would it be?
My picks are NoHItter and DxS. NoHItter I've just been getting bad vibes from; DxS isn't particularly scummy (his posts are ALWAYS bizarre so it's difficult to get a read), but I've been getting stronger pro-town cues from everyone else so it's more of a process of elimination thing.
If you were to guess the mafia right now, who would it be?
My picks are NoHItter and DxS. NoHItter I've just been getting bad vibes from; DxS isn't particularly scummy (his posts are ALWAYS bizarre so it's difficult to get a read), but I've been getting stronger pro-town cues from everyone else so it's more of a process of elimination thing.
If I were to guess at this very moment, NoHItter and either Q or DxS.0_o wrote:
If you were to guess the mafia right now, who would it be?
HItter just hasn't been sitting right with me for most of the game and seems to becoming less active.
Q's has kinda been distancing himself as well from what I can see and FoS's bmin.
DxS also doesn't sit right with me and I think he might be trying to be confusing with his posts.
I'll post an opinion list since I haven't posted one yet (I realized)
NoHItter: Slammed the last lynch with the 4th vote. You should have at least waited for Mashley. Q was on while Mashley posted, so you guys are on a similar time zone.
DxS: Confusing conversation between animask. He also contributed to Mashley's lynch, but at least he realized this could turn out bad and tried to convince a 4/4 split (without knowing the draw rule however ._.;;)
Q: Why do you suspect me? That is the question. I don't have much thing to talk about. He haven't done anything much but voted on animask to make the 4/4 split happen. However, he's act doesn't make him townie since everyone (even Mashley) knew it was too late for a split. Neutral on my note, just an odd ball.
0_o: Nothing much to talk about. Seems like townie. If animask was the mafia, then I'm thinking 0_o as a mafia because of iMuffin's absent. You haven't done anything wrong, but as I said on my iMuffin - animask mafia theory, iMuffin didn't help animask out (because he was away) and animask would have made the NK and Roleblock (if there is a doctor) by himself.
rust45: Nothing much to talk about as well ._.;; But I should answer your question and I'll on the next post (I forgot until now orz). He at least started out something that could be productive, but unfortunaly, it died off because of DxS vs animask (and again, *facepalm*)
animask: He could (just could) be a smart mafia trying to confuse us with accusation and arguing. From this, he was able to turn rusts question off and brought DxSs attention towards him. However, I just can't really imagine animask as a mafia. Idk why, but just can't. I'm STILL not sure if he's a doctor or not. He could be something else, but I just don't want to lose his chance of being a doctor and mafia doing nothing about him.
FoS on NoHItter (due to above reason + elimination, like 0_o)
EDIT: I edited to bold those names
NoHItter: Slammed the last lynch with the 4th vote. You should have at least waited for Mashley. Q was on while Mashley posted, so you guys are on a similar time zone.
DxS: Confusing conversation between animask. He also contributed to Mashley's lynch, but at least he realized this could turn out bad and tried to convince a 4/4 split (without knowing the draw rule however ._.;;)
Q: Why do you suspect me? That is the question. I don't have much thing to talk about. He haven't done anything much but voted on animask to make the 4/4 split happen. However, he's act doesn't make him townie since everyone (even Mashley) knew it was too late for a split. Neutral on my note, just an odd ball.
0_o: Nothing much to talk about. Seems like townie. If animask was the mafia, then I'm thinking 0_o as a mafia because of iMuffin's absent. You haven't done anything wrong, but as I said on my iMuffin - animask mafia theory, iMuffin didn't help animask out (because he was away) and animask would have made the NK and Roleblock (if there is a doctor) by himself.
rust45: Nothing much to talk about as well ._.;; But I should answer your question and I'll on the next post (I forgot until now orz). He at least started out something that could be productive, but unfortunaly, it died off because of DxS vs animask (and again, *facepalm*)
animask: He could (just could) be a smart mafia trying to confuse us with accusation and arguing. From this, he was able to turn rusts question off and brought DxSs attention towards him. However, I just can't really imagine animask as a mafia. Idk why, but just can't. I'm STILL not sure if he's a doctor or not. He could be something else, but I just don't want to lose his chance of being a doctor and mafia doing nothing about him.
FoS on NoHItter (due to above reason + elimination, like 0_o)
EDIT: I edited to bold those names
Quick Post
I just woke up.
Right now is 6:16 AM and I happen to be confronted with a computer before I go to school.
I'll be posting after a few more hours.
I just woke up.
Right now is 6:16 AM and I happen to be confronted with a computer before I go to school.
I'll be posting after a few more hours.
Right now, we don't have a cop and if we mislynch tonight, we are likely to lose this game. We must lynch a mafia twice to win the game and we are only left with one mislynch chance. Which means, if we mislynch, we have to get those mafias twice in a roll. I want to make sure we can get everything out of thisrust45 wrote:
So would you consider yourself a player who tries to get the job done quickly? (I'm not accusing you of anything but you seem to be trying to do that right now if you're a townie, as you're doing a great job of trying to scum hunt.)
That is the questionrust45 wrote:
Anyway, I'm kinda curious as to why Q Fos'd bmin, I don't quite see what bmin has done lately (if at all) is suspcious in my book.
Personal thoughts however.
Imagine if we do lynch a mafia member today.
Obviously whoever we lynch determines who dies during night as well.
If we lose a key vocal townie during night and we mislynch either way...it's pretty much over with animask already roleclaiming.
However, what happens if we find out that the person we lynched is the mafia roleblocker? This would actually put us in a better position to protect a town member during night (considering if animask really is doctor) and we'd actually gain some ground against mafia.
tl;dr
If we lynch a mafia roleblocker that means we can find out who the other mafia person easier on Day 3. But if we only capture a lynch on a generic mafia man someone will end up suiciding to even it out still with the mafia roleblocker in play. And lastly if we fail to lynch a mafia player consider it GG.
FoS on rust and Player Q for the time being.
Imagine if we do lynch a mafia member today.
Obviously whoever we lynch determines who dies during night as well.
If we lose a key vocal townie during night and we mislynch either way...it's pretty much over with animask already roleclaiming.
However, what happens if we find out that the person we lynched is the mafia roleblocker? This would actually put us in a better position to protect a town member during night (considering if animask really is doctor) and we'd actually gain some ground against mafia.
tl;dr
If we lynch a mafia roleblocker that means we can find out who the other mafia person easier on Day 3. But if we only capture a lynch on a generic mafia man someone will end up suiciding to even it out still with the mafia roleblocker in play. And lastly if we fail to lynch a mafia player consider it GG.
FoS on rust and Player Q for the time being.
"It would be good if we lynched the roleblocker" isn't exactly a useful piece of insight.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Personal thoughts however.
Imagine if we do lynch a mafia member today.
Obviously whoever we lynch determines who dies during night as well.
If we lose a key vocal townie during night and we mislynch either way...it's pretty much over with animask already roleclaiming.
However, what happens if we find out that the person we lynched is the mafia roleblocker? This would actually put us in a better position to protect a town member during night (considering if animask really is doctor) and we'd actually gain some ground against mafia.
tl;dr
If we lynch a mafia roleblocker that means we can find out who the other mafia person easier on Day 3. But if we only capture a lynch on a generic mafia man someone will end up suiciding to even it out still with the mafia roleblocker in play. And lastly if we fail to lynch a mafia player consider it GG.
FoS on rust and Player Q for the time being.
Also you guys are wayyy too pessimistic about what happens if we mislynch today.
FoS on rust and Player Q for the time being.Reasoning?
and we can talk about not having role blocker (not even sure if there's even a role blocker since we are not sure of a doctor) once we actually lynch it.
I agree we could still stay risky on lynching, but I'm still worried for 3 vs 2 game. And obviously, we want to lynch the likeliest, not the most wanting to be lynched.
animask is still off putting
"But, what if I'm not Doctor~ My plan could be working." - animask
"plan" what plan?
The fact that you recklessly refuse to post straight opinions still urk me.
suspicions on pretty much half the group cause everyone is choking on their own posts (including me)
and here's a generic tier list now
animask
Rust45
bmin11
Player "Q"
NoHItter
0_o
DxS (Yeah I still get the last slot)
"But, what if I'm not Doctor~ My plan could be working." - animask
"plan" what plan?
The fact that you recklessly refuse to post straight opinions still urk me.
mafia? shouldn't that be everyone in general? remember that buddying thing as I said earlier bmin?bmin11 wrote:
Well, if you are not the doctor, thing will get interesting (I can already see mafias being confused)
suspicions on pretty much half the group cause everyone is choking on their own posts (including me)
and here's a generic tier list now
animask
Rust45
bmin11
Player "Q"
NoHItter
0_o
DxS (Yeah I still get the last slot)
You seem to believe in NoHItter and not rust45 (not that both should be weighed differently compare eachother). Care to tell us your thoughts about it?
If we lynch the roleblocker or the mafia then the other mafia will still try to NK me.
@ DxS Since I get the feeling I should respond to people more, my plan was a WIFOM.
Which I obviously use a lot on others and myself (unfortunately).
The key is to not be persuaded by other FoS's that match yours.
If multiple people agree with you, you might become close-minded.
As long as we don't bandwagon lynch, we should be able to think clearly.
Also, If I had to guess mafia at this exact moment (with no further evidence), I would go with
NoHitTer and rust45
I'm not sure yet, which is why I'm looking for that "further evidence".
@ DxS Since I get the feeling I should respond to people more, my plan was a WIFOM.
Which I obviously use a lot on others and myself (unfortunately).
The key is to not be persuaded by other FoS's that match yours.
If multiple people agree with you, you might become close-minded.
As long as we don't bandwagon lynch, we should be able to think clearly.
Also, If I had to guess mafia at this exact moment (with no further evidence), I would go with
NoHitTer and rust45
I'm not sure yet, which is why I'm looking for that "further evidence".
Okay so about my suspicion on bmin11
(Not that's it's much of a big deal, but these are my 2 cents)
I believe bmin11 is a bit TOO active and trying TOO hard to fit in with townies.
Even though bmin11 has contributed a lot, I say these are just elements of trying to blend in.
(Although considering that this is bmin11's first game, this might probably be normal and bmin11's townie)
But nothing too suspicious, forgot to mention that it's just a little FoS on bmin11 and rust45
Just a minor-minor FoS on rust though. (Just have a hunch)
(Not that's it's much of a big deal, but these are my 2 cents)
I believe bmin11 is a bit TOO active and trying TOO hard to fit in with townies.
Even though bmin11 has contributed a lot, I say these are just elements of trying to blend in.
(Although considering that this is bmin11's first game, this might probably be normal and bmin11's townie)
But nothing too suspicious, forgot to mention that it's just a little FoS on bmin11 and rust45
Just a minor-minor FoS on rust though. (Just have a hunch)
I pretty much have all day, because I'm on an exam-week state. 9:00 AM - 12:00 PM prep, 1:00 PM - 4:00 PM prep, and 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM prep. Some are taking exams at those times. Today, I had no exams and was just studying having my laptop in front of me. That's why I was active all day (idling while studying).
I won't be as active as I use to be tomorrow due to my exams ^^.....................
I won't be as active as I use to be tomorrow due to my exams ^^.....................
I don't get why you think bmin's trying to fit in, he just seems to be a vocal townie. And about him talking too much, he just gave a valid reason and I don't see why talking a lot is a problem.
I'm not quite sure, I just feel like bmin11's trying too hard (and manages to pull it off, somehow)
(I guess it's just me ._.)
(I guess it's just me ._.)
Whoa. How many pages were added since I last posted...
At the moment my new suspicions list based on what I skimmed. (The higher you are, the more suspicious.)
rust45 = 0_o = DxS
Quaraezha
bmin11
animask - Claims doctor. No counterclaim. Thus I believe that animask is doctor.
It also seems that I am being suspected because I was the fourth vote on Mashley.
I've already explained that I suspected Mashley from the start.
If you read my post after, I realized albeit too late that claiming and still avoiding getting lynched would be hard as the other town would have to vote for a tie with the other lynchee.
Need time to reread.
At the moment my new suspicions list based on what I skimmed. (The higher you are, the more suspicious.)
rust45 = 0_o = DxS
Quaraezha
bmin11
animask - Claims doctor. No counterclaim. Thus I believe that animask is doctor.
It also seems that I am being suspected because I was the fourth vote on Mashley.
I've already explained that I suspected Mashley from the start.
If you read my post after, I realized albeit too late that claiming and still avoiding getting lynched would be hard as the other town would have to vote for a tie with the other lynchee.
Need time to reread.
Your suspicion on Mashley was based on your gut (as you stated) at the very beginning. No other reasons were purposed until animask also gave on opinion of "Mashley is trying too hard to fit in" + Ph0X's reversed FoS list (even I stated SOME COULD BE OUTDATED). It moved way too quickly and even that didn't mind DxS and you for voting the last two votes. Was it that convincing or supportive to your suspicion on Mashley? That not even a second thought on to wait for a defence?NoHItter wrote:
I've already explained that I suspected Mashley from the start.
And the same question for DxS as well :<
WIFOM stage, but the act you guys made did gave me of a hastiness and a smell of a scumtell. I'm welcome for defences since I'm not truely sure of my thoughts yet.
Time to answer questions...
bmin being overactive?
lol...
To be honest while it may seem odd that bmin "overposts" I do believe that it has to do with his dedication more than just being bored and trolling all of us. If you go ahead and read why "bmin posts frequently" I can justify that he didn't want to seem like a newbie holding the game back. That and he lives in a boarding school with constant downtime especially if he's in his dorm room throughout the whole day he can probably get online a lot more than us. (Plus he's in Canada not S. Korea like his flag says) Just in case that threw anyone off.
Believing in NoHItter could be mafia but not rust?
Actually my opinion has changed. I think that at this point rust is mostly likely mafia. (Out of all of us, he provided the least opinion on day 1 only 3rd to Player Q and imuffin respectfully) imuffin of course got replaced but that was obvious. 0_o seems more pro-town than I believe he is, but of course he hasn't been around when all of Day 1 occured so we can't assume so quickly afterall. And of course Player Q's explanation for why he wasn't around "actually makes sense" compared to some of the other responses so far. Now looking at NoHItter he was the one to actually "kick up some dust" by that questionnaire we all answered. then later distancing himself towards the end of Day 1. But still his playing style seems to distance himself which seems suspicious.
My vote on Mashley
Well...I can admit the FoS/Reverse FoS lists that were provided immediately at the end may seem to promote bandwagoning. At the time of when Night was coming to an end I was trying to distance myself from my Mashley vote that I placed almost immediately after bmin and ph0x posted. What we shouldn't do however the next time is everyone mass voting without having some sort of justification on Day 2.
P.S. Rust if you're actually trying to ask me something can you make it more obvious? Hard to tell who you're directing your posts too actually.
bmin being overactive?
lol...
To be honest while it may seem odd that bmin "overposts" I do believe that it has to do with his dedication more than just being bored and trolling all of us. If you go ahead and read why "bmin posts frequently" I can justify that he didn't want to seem like a newbie holding the game back. That and he lives in a boarding school with constant downtime especially if he's in his dorm room throughout the whole day he can probably get online a lot more than us. (Plus he's in Canada not S. Korea like his flag says) Just in case that threw anyone off.
Believing in NoHItter could be mafia but not rust?
Actually my opinion has changed. I think that at this point rust is mostly likely mafia. (Out of all of us, he provided the least opinion on day 1 only 3rd to Player Q and imuffin respectfully) imuffin of course got replaced but that was obvious. 0_o seems more pro-town than I believe he is, but of course he hasn't been around when all of Day 1 occured so we can't assume so quickly afterall. And of course Player Q's explanation for why he wasn't around "actually makes sense" compared to some of the other responses so far. Now looking at NoHItter he was the one to actually "kick up some dust" by that questionnaire we all answered. then later distancing himself towards the end of Day 1. But still his playing style seems to distance himself which seems suspicious.
My vote on Mashley
Well...I can admit the FoS/Reverse FoS lists that were provided immediately at the end may seem to promote bandwagoning. At the time of when Night was coming to an end I was trying to distance myself from my Mashley vote that I placed almost immediately after bmin and ph0x posted. What we shouldn't do however the next time is everyone mass voting without having some sort of justification on Day 2.
P.S. Rust if you're actually trying to ask me something can you make it more obvious? Hard to tell who you're directing your posts too actually.
I got an idea, lets say HoS (Hand of Suspicion) to be our vote. Just before we make our log out on the last moment, we will vote on whatever we HoSed on. It should work similar to vote with unvote rule
Sounds like something you'd have to ask Lady, unless you're saying if the person doesn't post their HoS as a vote before they log off that's a no vote?bmin11 wrote:
I got an idea, lets say HoS (Hand of Suspicion) to be our vote. Just before we make our log out on the last moment, we will vote on whatever we HoSed on. It should work similar to vote with unvote rule
He just means that we simply keep an HOS on whoever we want to vote for, then officially vote at last minute so we don't have another Mashley incident where someone wants to change their mind.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Sounds like something you'd have to ask Lady, unless you're saying if the person doesn't post their HoS as a vote before they log off that's a no vote?bmin11 wrote:
I got an idea, lets say HoS (Hand of Suspicion) to be our vote. Just before we make our log out on the last moment, we will vote on whatever we HoSed on. It should work similar to vote with unvote rule
But anywho:
HOS on NoHItter, FOS on DxS.
NoHItter, it wasn't so much your 4th vote on Mashley that I found suspicious as your reasons for finding him suspicious in the first place. It was pretty clear he was simply expressing his frustration at animask's odd posts; your attack came off to me as mafia looking too hard for an excuse to kill.
The person with no HoS would be saying "I'm not voting", but he can still vote technically. Of course, I'm not going to look that person as a reliable townie.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Sounds like something you'd have to ask Lady, unless you're saying if the person doesn't post their HoS as a vote before they log off that's a no vote?
I don't really want to resort to a bandwagon HoS, but I think there is something hidden
in the last few posts for some reason. If not, then I'll be HoS'ing NoHiTter.
in the last few posts for some reason. If not, then I'll be HoS'ing NoHiTter.
I have to agree again with bmin...if someone doesn't post their HoS as a vote before they leave that also can be considered to be scummish since it would look evasive and such.
I just want the person to realize how FoS is serious when there is no Unvote. So, HoS should be a good signal.
NoHitTer says that he suspected Mashley from the start.
Yes, he was sus(s) in the way that he posted, but why did you suspect him?
Are there any reasons other than the one that I stated?
(Mashley agreeing too easily and trying to fit in.)
If you were mafia, you would assume he was an aux role.
If you were townie, you would assume he was an aux role/mafia (like I did)
The odds are higher towards an aux role. (I only see this now o_O)
0_o, you should have realized that Ph0X and myself both voted for Mashley. My evidence
just seemed to appeal more towards Mashley, because everyone else was less sus(s) besides me.
Now that I claimed as doctor, you should realize that two aux roles were targeted at the beginning.
Also, the mafia shouldn't know if their roleblock was succesful or not.
(Stated before you posted...)
(Even thought NoHitter and rust45 asked questions too)
Next is Quy.
Where were you going with this? It seems like you're (like everyone else) trying to avoid accusing as mafia. So far, nobody has
any really strong opinions w/ facts on who is mafia or not (or its just me).
DxS, you are an agressive player OR you are mafia and have no worries about accusing others of being mafia, because
you already know who is the mafia. You could also be a townie and trying to start accusations on people to see if someone has
anything to say about it (nobody really seems to have any strong opinions atm). I don't get why I have to be the most sus(s) when
there are obviously other people that you could be focusing on.
bmin11, you accused my idea of the mafia targeting another mafia to be stupid, when you forgot about how it is opposite
of the mafia buddy system. You also refused to believe it could be possible (I didn't claim you as mafia. I just made an example of a possible mafia pairing like that.) Also, it was what you said that made me continue with my thought of roleclaiming. I'm not sure if this was
an emotional strategy or not. You shouldn't have gotten too upset by my assumptions unless you were actually guilty. (like with my roleclaim but now I think I'm taking things personally) I've never really been sure of it as it was just an idea.
It seems like nobody wants to be a sus(s) right now and nobody wants to strongly accuse anyone (or there is too little information).
Also, my primary reason for roleclaiming was to prevent another innocent townie get vote lynched.
(Since I was sus(s) during Day 1)
I agree with the HoS pseudo-vote/unvote idea. Except, will we have to vote at the last minute or something similar?
I don't think some people would have that option.
Yes, he was sus(s) in the way that he posted, but why did you suspect him?
Are there any reasons other than the one that I stated?
(Mashley agreeing too easily and trying to fit in.)
If you were mafia, you would assume he was an aux role.
If you were townie, you would assume he was an aux role/mafia (like I did)
The odds are higher towards an aux role. (I only see this now o_O)
0_o, you should have realized that Ph0X and myself both voted for Mashley. My evidence
just seemed to appeal more towards Mashley, because everyone else was less sus(s) besides me.
Now that I claimed as doctor, you should realize that two aux roles were targeted at the beginning.
Also, the mafia shouldn't know if their roleblock was succesful or not.
(Stated before you posted...)
Yeahhh we could have avoided a lot of drama if you had just said that in the first place. The mafia already knew you were the doctor because of the successful roleblock so there wasn't any point in hiding it.Also, you asked a question that everyone answered again.
If you're telling the truth that is.
(Even thought NoHitter and rust45 asked questions too)
Next is Quy.
Quy, you're using the same reasoning that got Mashley vote lynched on the first day (except for the contribution part).Quaraezha wrote:
Okay so about my suspicion on bmin11
(Not that's it's much of a big deal, but these are my 2 cents)
I believe bmin11 is a bit TOO active and trying TOO hard to fit in with townies.
Even though bmin11 has contributed a lot, I say these are just elements of trying to blend in.
(Although considering that this is bmin11's first game, this might probably be normal and bmin11's townie)
Where were you going with this? It seems like you're (like everyone else) trying to avoid accusing as mafia. So far, nobody has
any really strong opinions w/ facts on who is mafia or not (or its just me).
DxS, you are an agressive player OR you are mafia and have no worries about accusing others of being mafia, because
you already know who is the mafia. You could also be a townie and trying to start accusations on people to see if someone has
anything to say about it (nobody really seems to have any strong opinions atm). I don't get why I have to be the most sus(s) when
there are obviously other people that you could be focusing on.
bmin11, you accused my idea of the mafia targeting another mafia to be stupid, when you forgot about how it is opposite
of the mafia buddy system. You also refused to believe it could be possible (I didn't claim you as mafia. I just made an example of a possible mafia pairing like that.) Also, it was what you said that made me continue with my thought of roleclaiming. I'm not sure if this was
an emotional strategy or not. You shouldn't have gotten too upset by my assumptions unless you were actually guilty. (like with my roleclaim but now I think I'm taking things personally) I've never really been sure of it as it was just an idea.
It seems like nobody wants to be a sus(s) right now and nobody wants to strongly accuse anyone (or there is too little information).
Also, my primary reason for roleclaiming was to prevent another innocent townie get vote lynched.
(Since I was sus(s) during Day 1)
I agree with the HoS pseudo-vote/unvote idea. Except, will we have to vote at the last minute or something similar?
I don't think some people would have that option.
Note: These are just ideas and not assumptions.
In response to animask, it was infighting about the past day 1 that you accused me on mostly when a lot of those accusations were cleared up. I am trying to stay relevant in my posts by continuing to say what I believe in but somehow you like to bring up the past with your reckless playing style which really disturbs me. However it isn't wise to just evade that and immediately accusing someone else without dealing with what others bring up against you first. (such as in my case) Gotta like the bigger shift in playing style since you claimed doctor however.
Still hoping for more rust activity.
Just weird how the western timezone players are all here except him most of the time.
Unless I dunno "he's rusty at mafia" hohohoho
Still hoping for more rust activity.
Just weird how the western timezone players are all here except him most of the time.
Unless I dunno "he's rusty at mafia" hohohoho
0_o, you should have realized that Ph0X and myself both voted for Mashley.Yes, but for different reasons. You said that you thought he was trying too hard to fit in, and Ph0X voted for him because Mashley had the most FoS's out of everyone (although when you actually look at everyone's explaination for their Mashley FoS's most of them are fairly mild. Ph0X himself didn't even state any strong suspicions about him)
I can see both of those reasons as being fairly valid for a Day 1 vote. NoHItter's initial attack, in my opinion, was not.
Also, the mafia shouldn't know if their roleblock was succesful or not.The first thing I thought when you posted the "any doctors or cops" post is that you were a (noob) doctor looking for a cop to protect (I had a feeling there were others that thought this as well but didn't say anything in order to keep you hidden, though I could be wrong of course). I believe the mafia had the same idea, which is probably why they roleblocked you. If you hadn't have said anything about it the next day then there would still been have some uncertainty, but blatantly saying "there must be a roleblocker" completely tipped your hand as doctor is the only townie that would know there is a roleblocker.
Also I swear, I can't understand half of what you and DxS say >_>
DeathxShinigami wrote:
In response to animask, it was infighting about the past day 1 that you accused me on mostly when a lot of those accusations were cleared up. I am trying to stay relevant in my posts by continuing to say what I believe in but somehow you like to bring up the past with your reckless playing style which really disturbs me. However it isn't wise to just evade that and immediately accusing someone else without dealing with what others bring up against you first. (such as in my case) Gotta like the bigger shift in playing style since you claimed doctor however.
1) Past? Day 1? Oh, you mean the already "resolved" things? I never refuse the possibility for things.
If you have anything important to bring up about someone other than me in Day 2, please let me know.
I can't find much in Day 2. I miss Ph0X now.
2) ty~ I think. I'm getting lynched anyways so I might as well contribute like crazy.
(or maybe I just raised my lynch rate...)
Also, how much time do we have left? Approx.?
Firstly I'm pretty sure you aren't getting lynched today.animask wrote:
ty~ I think. I'm getting lynched anyways so I might as well contribute like crazy.
(or maybe I just raised my lynch rate...)
Also, how much time do we have left? Approx.?
Secondly we have 1 day + 18 hours left.
I know they would also try to distance themselve to avoid alignment, but you suggested "mafia trying to lynch a mafia" not "mafia trying to distance eachother by putting suspicion" and I was a bit humoured by it. Well now I understand what you are trying to say, so there's no problem with this anymore (to me).animask wrote:
bmin11, you accused my idea of the mafia targeting another mafia to be stupid, when you forgot about how it is opposite
of the mafia buddy system. You also refused to believe it could be possible (I didn't claim you as mafia. I just made an example of a possible mafia pairing like that.)
I wasn't upset by your assumption, but how you ignored my respond TWICE and ASKED AGAIN. *ahem* It wouldn't have been a big deal (since most knew you were a doctor anyway), but ignoring me is a different matter. I'm going to remind you again (because I'm worried you might have missed it again), please read my posts.animask wrote:
You shouldn't have gotten too upset by my assumptions unless you were actually guilty
Everyone will vote on their last log in before the lynch. Voting means "I have made my decision and I'm not going to change my vote no matter how you defense". So ya, remember to vote if you can't log in before the lynch. We need eveyones voteanimask wrote:
I agree with the HoS pseudo-vote/unvote idea. Except, will we have to vote at the last minute or something similar?
And how did I not see this until now ;_; Sorry NoHItter for accusing you...NoHItter wrote:
Ahh crap. I forgot that since the votes are permanent, claiming when you are about to get lynched is useless.
Next day I suggest we really go through with a pseudo-voting system before actually voting to give leeway for any changes in suspicions
Good thing I'm going through the thread again. I might as well do it again *sigh*
I'm sorry for the inactivity but there are a couple reasons for it.
1. Bro home from college and just doing other things.
2. My normal computer is in the shop and I'm using my old tower which is a pain to work with at times.
Anyway, I agree on the pseudo-voting system to avoid the incident on day 1, but only as long as people will treat a HoS on them like a vote. Without the feeling of being threatened, which is a way voting can be used for scum-hunting (basically the whole point of RVS), pressuring will be harder. So hopefully NoHItter gets my message when I put my HoS on him.
Reason being that he has always felt odd in my gut to me, used to think it was an aux feeling, but now it seems like he's scum.
He seemed to be the first to really jump on Mashley and he was also suspicious of animask, and I think the only reason why he tried to defend his unvoting and stopped pushing on animask is because he realized they were lost tangents and further pushing animask would be suspicious. WIFOM I know, but I think it's probable.
He also seemed to be trying really hard to justify his questionnaire during day 1 (explaining it multiple times), which the questionnaire by itself wasn't suspicious to me, the over-defense (IMO) of it seems like a scum tell.
He seems to be against WIFOM even though it's an important part of the game. Without WIFOM, there's less to go off of.
I just went through the whole thread to dig up dirt on NoHItter, found more than I expected, no wonder I had that gut feeling for him.
1. Bro home from college and just doing other things.
2. My normal computer is in the shop and I'm using my old tower which is a pain to work with at times.
Anyway, I agree on the pseudo-voting system to avoid the incident on day 1, but only as long as people will treat a HoS on them like a vote. Without the feeling of being threatened, which is a way voting can be used for scum-hunting (basically the whole point of RVS), pressuring will be harder. So hopefully NoHItter gets my message when I put my HoS on him.
Reason being that he has always felt odd in my gut to me, used to think it was an aux feeling, but now it seems like he's scum.
He seemed to be the first to really jump on Mashley and he was also suspicious of animask, and I think the only reason why he tried to defend his unvoting and stopped pushing on animask is because he realized they were lost tangents and further pushing animask would be suspicious. WIFOM I know, but I think it's probable.
He also seemed to be trying really hard to justify his questionnaire during day 1 (explaining it multiple times), which the questionnaire by itself wasn't suspicious to me, the over-defense (IMO) of it seems like a scum tell.
He seems to be against WIFOM even though it's an important part of the game. Without WIFOM, there's less to go off of.
I just went through the whole thread to dig up dirt on NoHItter, found more than I expected, no wonder I had that gut feeling for him.
Incidentally rust, what are those "dirt" you mentioned?
Another clarification then about my vote on Mashley. (Hopefully final)
1) Yes I suspected him merely because of my gut in the first place, but...
2) What animask said "He is trying to fit in too much", convinced me that Mashley was suspicious. It also seemed to explain why my gut was pinging on Mashley. It was also the reason why Ph0x switched his vote.
3) After I voted Mashley, I realized what I did was wrong.
Another clarification then about my vote on Mashley. (Hopefully final)
1) Yes I suspected him merely because of my gut in the first place, but...
2) What animask said "He is trying to fit in too much", convinced me that Mashley was suspicious. It also seemed to explain why my gut was pinging on Mashley. It was also the reason why Ph0x switched his vote.
3) After I voted Mashley, I realized what I did was wrong.
NoHItter wrote:
Ahh crap. I forgot that since the votes are permanent, claiming when you are about to get lynched is useless.
Next day I suggest we really go through with a pseudo-voting system before actually voting to give leeway for any changes in suspicions
Basically all of what I mentioned about you in my previous post. Stuff you did or said that I found incriminating.NoHItter wrote:
Incidentally rust, what are those "dirt" you mentioned?
When I read this post in context (both when it was posted and through my re-read), it seemed more like you were talking about claiming when one's about to get lynched. The post didn't seem to have to do with your vote at all.NoHItter wrote:
Ahh crap. I forgot that since the votes are permanent, claiming when you are about to get lynched is useless.
Next day I suggest we really go through with a pseudo-voting system before actually voting to give leeway for any changes in suspicions
Hi guys, family event today (Wooo.....) Didn't get much sleep last night but I'll try to post when I can.
(Apologies)
-DxS
(Apologies)
-DxS
Mod: may you please update the OP to show the starts of the days, I remember this being in other games and it's useful for reference.
I'd like to hear other people's thoughts on the whole rust and NoHItter possibly being mafia.
and it's fine if you all wish to question my opinion on it as well~
and it's fine if you all wish to question my opinion on it as well~
Topic Starter
If I feel less lazy after I get up tomorrow, or if I still feel this lazy but someone has posted the links to D1 and D2 start.rust45 wrote:
Mod: may you please update the OP to show the starts of the days, I remember this being in other games and it's useful for reference.
Heading off to sleep.
I still haven't got any posts about suspicion against rust45
and animask, you didn't post anything about rust45 on your last suspicion list (or similar to) for some reason.
and animask, you didn't post anything about rust45 on your last suspicion list (or similar to) for some reason.
I knew I was forgetting something...bmin11 wrote:
I still haven't got any posts about suspicion against rust45
and animask, you didn't post anything about rust45 on your last suspicion list (or similar to) for some reason.
rust45, all I can see is that you're being slightly informative, but you're not really accusing anyone of doing anything.
Not accusing people could be a way of having yourself from sus(s) instead of lurking.
Found this.
If I was mafia, I wouldn't even kill him, as when I'm mafia, I go for those who did participate as much as others, that way I get get someone who was slowing down the game, and possibly an aux role who was trying to go noticed. Ph0x did not meet my conditions for a night 1 kill.
Opposite of what the mafia actually did. (The "possibly an aux role" part could mean me. You were thinking of NK Ph0X or me.) Then again,you must have thought about what would happen NK the person slowing down the game. The good townie player would be able to find you out (if you were mafia). Why take out the bad player if you were mafia? That seems more like what a townie would think.
There's more to mafia than winning IMO. As a townie there's not really anything you can do to make it fun (espcially in small games like this), but as a mafia, killing good players will make it less interesting. I dunno though, I haven't actually been mafia in a game so I don't know if doing this is really that great of an idea.animask wrote:
Why take out the bad player if you were mafia? That seems more like what a townie would think.
But if you don't play to win, its not really as fun. I could probably make the game fun on the townie side ( I think I have. ) Also, evenrust45 wrote:
There's more to mafia than winning IMO. As a townie there's not really anything you can do to make it fun (espcially in small games like this), but as a mafia, killing good players will make it less interesting. I dunno though, I haven't actually been mafia in a game so I don't know if doing this is really that great of an idea.animask wrote:
Why take out the bad player if you were mafia? That seems more like what a townie would think.
if you're not playing on the mafia side, it helps to think that you are. Personally, I like small games (around 10 or less) but I don't have much
experience in mafia, so I'm not sure what bigger groups would be like. There's probably less at stake in bigger games, because if one person
is eliminated, it doesn't usually make a huge difference as it would here.
If you really are town I'm voting NoHItter then...cause he doesn't seem to be anymore willing than you to roleclaim. x:rust45 wrote:
I dunno though, I haven't actually been mafia in a game so I don't know if doing this is really that great of an idea.
That said...probably have an idea on who will be lynched depending on the next day.
FWIW, It's useless to roleclaim.
animask claimed Doctor.
Mashley was Cop.
All other possible roles now are either Scum or Vanilla Townies.
And speaking of which, I am a Vanilla Townie.
animask claimed Doctor.
Mashley was Cop.
All other possible roles now are either Scum or Vanilla Townies.
And speaking of which, I am a Vanilla Townie.
Or the Roleblocker~NoHItter wrote:
FWIW, It's useless to roleclaim.
animask claimed Doctor.
Mashley was Cop.
All other possible roles now are either Scum or Vanilla Townies.
And speaking of which, I am a Vanilla Townie.
Since you forgot to mention, but then again, scum is scum.
Topic Starter
Roughly 5 hours until deadline.
I absolutely have no idea who scum is right now.
I now have a tied feeling between 0_o and rust which shouldn't be as there are only two mafia.
I won't be around in five hours, so I'm going to vote now.
Among the three, I think rust is most likely scum.
My reason is because he bandwagonned on me with his HoS. (and my gut, but the second reason isn't accepted, isn't it)
IMO, rust is also trying to fit in with who is currently suspicious. His current attitude seems like osmeone trying to blend in/ go with the flow.
0_o is next. I can't say much about him other than my gut and his playstyle is somewhat different from the previous game I hosted.
Vote: rust45
If we mislynch today, it will be Ly-Lo tomorrow if the Mafia successfully kill. That would leave it to 3 town : 2 mafia.
At that point, I would suggest that town not vote anyone yet. Wait until there is a solid and general consensus. If by any chance, any one town submits a vote on a fellow townie, the mafia will just bandwagon to win.
I now have a tied feeling between 0_o and rust which shouldn't be as there are only two mafia.
I won't be around in five hours, so I'm going to vote now.
Among the three, I think rust is most likely scum.
My reason is because he bandwagonned on me with his HoS. (and my gut, but the second reason isn't accepted, isn't it)
IMO, rust is also trying to fit in with who is currently suspicious. His current attitude seems like osmeone trying to blend in/ go with the flow.
0_o is next. I can't say much about him other than my gut and his playstyle is somewhat different from the previous game I hosted.
Vote: rust45
If we mislynch today, it will be Ly-Lo tomorrow if the Mafia successfully kill. That would leave it to 3 town : 2 mafia.
At that point, I would suggest that town not vote anyone yet. Wait until there is a solid and general consensus. If by any chance, any one town submits a vote on a fellow townie, the mafia will just bandwagon to win.
I have a feeling mafia will kill whoever has been most supportive and active (unless they kill doctor)
The reasoning on rust may be very vague but right now considering with all of the time left (plus I have work in about an hour)
I have no choice to vote on rust.
his..."odd" choice of wording leads me to heavily question his stance in the game and his posts urk me anyways. (unlike animask and Player Q or even NoHItter who even spent some amount of time with their opinions and posts.)
It was nice knowing you in this game...
Vote:rust45
The reasoning on rust may be very vague but right now considering with all of the time left (plus I have work in about an hour)
I have no choice to vote on rust.
his..."odd" choice of wording leads me to heavily question his stance in the game and his posts urk me anyways. (unlike animask and Player Q or even NoHItter who even spent some amount of time with their opinions and posts.)
It was nice knowing you in this game...
Vote:rust45
@NoHitTer thanks for doing the math.
I think I'll be able to HoS rust45 for now.
I'll be waiting for other votes/HoS's first.
I think I'll be able to HoS rust45 for now.
I'll be waiting for other votes/HoS's first.
@ NoHItter if you're still around before the deadline who was your third? I only saw faceman and rust...
Day 2 sure was interesting now.
Also, iirc bmin's going to korea soon so he might be afk for a day or something.
Day 2 sure was interesting now.
Also, iirc bmin's going to korea soon so he might be afk for a day or something.
Go time.
vote NoHItter
If he turns up town I'm going with DxS + rust for mafia.
vote NoHItter
If he turns up town I'm going with DxS + rust for mafia.
DxS voted rust45 by the way0_o wrote:
If he turns up town I'm going with DxS + rust for mafia.
*sigh* I guess there are really anything to be analytical... my gut is saying rust45, but if we are voting rust45 for inactivity, Q and 0_o should also be on the list really... My reason why I'm getting the hunch of a scum is that he didn't cease down to attack NoHItter even me and NoHItter posted an evidence that it was NoHItter's mistake (duration between a vote and the post was 10~20min only if I remember). So....
HoS on rust45. If nothing turns my attention or convincing, this should be my vote
Wait until there is a solid and general consensus. If by any chance, any one town submits a vote on a fellow townie, the mafia will just bandwagon to win.And wow, never thought of that. This is really dangerous indeed... we should come up with some opinion list or questionnaire so we can have everyone to post and not waste times like Day 2
And DxS, why am I getting the feeling of a bandwagon from you? I'm asking this leaving the friendship behind us at the moment (this is a game this is a game this is a game)
Hmm, well DxS COULD be simply deepening his cover, but I'll admit that I forgot to take that into consideration so I'll revise that statement:bmin11 wrote:
DxS voted rust45 by the way
If NoHItter turns town then rust45 is most likely mafia. Not sure who his partner would be, but I'm thinking either DxS or Q.
Though it looks like rust45 is kicking the bucket anyway so that scenario is likely moot.
If rust turns town, I am almost certain DxS and No are mafia
If rust turns mafia, I have no freaking idea what to think. I'd probably have to do another readthrough..
Well, just like yesterday, there basically two people on the chopping block, however, it seems more likely that one is mafia this time.
With that said Vote: NoHitter as I certainly want to survive and not have the town on Ly-lo tomorrow. I've already explained my reasoning and I just want to say that if I do get lynched, don't automatically assume NoHitter is mafia, as he said, one mis vote and mafia will bandwagon.
Oh yeah, I suppose I should say I'm townie, just as NoHitter claimed.
With that said Vote: NoHitter as I certainly want to survive and not have the town on Ly-lo tomorrow. I've already explained my reasoning and I just want to say that if I do get lynched, don't automatically assume NoHitter is mafia, as he said, one mis vote and mafia will bandwagon.
Oh yeah, I suppose I should say I'm townie, just as NoHitter claimed.
Yikes bmin, way to get edgy on me all of a sudden eh?bmin11 wrote:
Wait until there is a solid and general consensus. If by any chance, any one town submits a vote on a fellow townie, the mafia will just bandwagon to win.And wow, never thought of that. This is really dangerous indeed... we should come up with some opinion list or questionnaire so we can have everyone to post and not waste times like Day 2
And DxS, why am I getting the feeling of a bandwagon from you? I'm asking this leaving the friendship behind us at the moment (this is a game this is a game this is a game)
Read my post carefully from earlier and note the odd wording of "rust's sentences and phrases" I missed a bit the past couple of days but hey. I decided to go for rust because I reread the day 2 portion, carefully examined everyone's posts and ideas but rust stood out to me the most as being "scummish" so heh.
As I claimed earlier, I'll vote rust45, but I notice that rust45 came with a valid point
Vote: rust45 (time is running out and I believe rust45's last post is his last claim he wants to take)
This is giving me a weird feeling.... I might have to think about it deeper about this.....rust45 wrote:
Well, just like yesterday, there basically two people on the chopping block
Vote: rust45 (time is running out and I believe rust45's last post is his last claim he wants to take)
Err I'm pretty sure this just means that we are either lynching either No or rust today.bmin11 wrote:
As I claimed earlier, I'll vote rust45, but I notice that rust45 came with a valid pointThis is giving me a weird feeling.... I might have to think about it deeperrust45 wrote:
Well, just like yesterday, there basically two people on the chopping block
Oh right "Two people on the chopping board". I read it the other way >_>;;0_o wrote:
Err I'm pretty sure this just means that we are either lynching either No or rust today.
vote: rust45
Topic Starter
Vote Count:
rust45 (4) - NoHItter, DxS, bmin11, animask
NoHItter (2) - 0_o, rust45
Everyone was sure it was rust45, he just seemed bad. After a bit of discussion, some arguing, and a bunch of nothing...
*snap*
One of the executors had walked in while nobody was looking, snapped rust45's neck, and dragged the body out of the room.
Later that night...
"You guys screwed up again! rust45 has absolutely no connection to the victims, or the mafia. Remind me why we're letting you decide who to execute?"
rust45 - Townie - Lynched D2
It is now night, submit blah blah 48 hours blah blah.
rust45 (4) - NoHItter, DxS, bmin11, animask
NoHItter (2) - 0_o, rust45
Everyone was sure it was rust45, he just seemed bad. After a bit of discussion, some arguing, and a bunch of nothing...
*snap*
One of the executors had walked in while nobody was looking, snapped rust45's neck, and dragged the body out of the room.
Later that night...
"You guys screwed up again! rust45 has absolutely no connection to the victims, or the mafia. Remind me why we're letting you decide who to execute?"
rust45 - Townie - Lynched D2
It is now night, submit blah blah 48 hours blah blah.
Topic Starter
In the morning, you find animask dead on the ground, medical supplies in hand. It seems like he was going to attempt to make sure nobody else died...
Unfortunately, he couldn't protect himself.
animask - Doctor - Killed N2
It is now day 3, with 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch. Deadline is 3 days.
Unfortunately, he couldn't protect himself.
animask - Doctor - Killed N2
It is now day 3, with 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch. Deadline is 3 days.
gahhh iknewitiknewitiknewit
HoS NoHItter
HoS DxS
HoS NoHItter
HoS DxS
No one vote until we have reached a general consensus.
Sigh. It's useless. I was so sure rust was mafia.
0_o:
The problem with faceman is that I absolutely have no reads on him on Day 1. My gut is telling me that he is scum, but what I see says otherwise. I think Day 1 analysis is one of the most vital analysis as scum had no chance of talking yet. At the moment, I don't think 0_o and DxS are a scumteam - 0_o basically HoS'd both me and DxS.
One odd thing about faceman is that he already placed a dichotomy before rust or me was going to get lynched.
Also I think I see a logic error somewhere. (If NoHitter = town, rust = mafia, then why did he not say the reverse if rust were to flip mafia?) Scum
DxS:
Since the start, DxS has been playing oddly. "Bluffing" bmin, etc. His vote on rust, after mine, seems to be just hoping on the bandwagon. Though since I think 0_o is most likely Mafia, then I think DxS isn't Mafia. Neutral
HoS: 0_o
Sigh. It's useless. I was so sure rust was mafia.
0_o:
The problem with faceman is that I absolutely have no reads on him on Day 1. My gut is telling me that he is scum, but what I see says otherwise. I think Day 1 analysis is one of the most vital analysis as scum had no chance of talking yet. At the moment, I don't think 0_o and DxS are a scumteam - 0_o basically HoS'd both me and DxS.
One odd thing about faceman is that he already placed a dichotomy before rust or me was going to get lynched.
0_o wrote:
If NoHItter turns town then rust45 is most likely mafia. Not sure who his partner would be, but I'm thinking either DxS or Q.
Though it looks like rust45 is kicking the bucket anyway so that scenario is likely moot.
I think this statement was a basis to vote the other in the next Day. Town shouldn't already limit themselves the previous Day. IMO those two statements seem to be a bases to vote the one who didn't get lynched. Thus I am suspicious of it.0_o wrote:
If rust turns town, I am almost certain DxS and No are mafia
If rust turns mafia, I have no freaking idea what to think. I'd probably have to do another readthrough..
Also I think I see a logic error somewhere. (If NoHitter = town, rust = mafia, then why did he not say the reverse if rust were to flip mafia?) Scum
DxS:
Since the start, DxS has been playing oddly. "Bluffing" bmin, etc. His vote on rust, after mine, seems to be just hoping on the bandwagon. Though since I think 0_o is most likely Mafia, then I think DxS isn't Mafia. Neutral
HoS: 0_o
Okay I'm a liiiitttlle bit sure now (just a little)
FoS on NoHItter and DxS
NoHItter seems to be defensive to DxS when claiming that he is neutral.
If these two are mafia, it'll only make sense (probably)
just my 2 cents
FoS on NoHItter and DxS
NoHItter seems to be defensive to DxS when claiming that he is neutral.
If these two are mafia, it'll only make sense (probably)
just my 2 cents
I posted those scenarios so I could have all of my thoughts out in the open in case I was nightkilled.NoHItter wrote:
One odd thing about faceman is that he already placed a dichotomy before rust or me was going to get lynched.0_o wrote:
If NoHItter turns town then rust45 is most likely mafia. Not sure who his partner would be, but I'm thinking either DxS or Q.
Though it looks like rust45 is kicking the bucket anyway so that scenario is likely moot.I think this statement was a basis to vote the other in the next Day. Town shouldn't already limit themselves the previous Day. IMO those two statements seem to be a bases to vote the one who didn't get lynched. Thus I am suspicious of it.0_o wrote:
If rust turns town, I am almost certain DxS and No are mafia
If rust turns mafia, I have no freaking idea what to think. I'd probably have to do another readthrough..
Also I think I see a logic error somewhere. (If NoHitter = town, rust = mafia, then why did he not say the reverse if rust were to flip mafia?) ScumIf you turned up town then the possible mafia in my mind would have been two of rust, DxS and Q. There's a 2/3 chance that any one of them could be mafia via random chance, and you turning town would have gave rust even more mafia points, so he would have been a safe bet.
Now if rust turned up mafia, then only one of you, DxS and Q would be mafia (1/3 chance). You and DxS would have earned town points for lynching him, but seeing as Q was also low on my suspicions list I wouldn't really have a good case against anyone.
EDIT: Spelling, formatting etc.
I'm not getting what you mean. Could you elaborate it further?Quaraezha wrote:
NoHItter seems to be defensive to DxS when claiming that he is neutral.
I seem to get what you mean, but you probably should have explained it when you posted it. UnHoS: 0_o0_o wrote:
If you turned up town then the possible mafia in my mind would have been two of rust, DxS and Q. There's a 2/3 chance that any one of them could be mafia via random chance, and you turning town would have gave rust even more mafia points, so he would have been a safe bet.
Now if rust turned up mafia, then only [i]one[/] of you, DxS and Q would be mafia (1/3 chance). You and DxS would have earned town points for lynching him, but seeing as Q was also low on my suspicions list I wouldn't really have a good case against anyone.
Well back to square one. My next scummy read is my neutral read on DxS...
New order of suspicions: (Top = more suspicious)
DxS
0_o = Quarazezha
bmin11
I'll post in soon. I just have an exam (last one) in 15min ;_;
Since people are now suspicious of DxS, you try to defend him by saying that he seems neutral.NoHItter wrote:
I'm not getting what you mean. Could you elaborate it further?Quaraezha wrote:
NoHItter seems to be defensive to DxS when claiming that he is neutral.
That was my read/opinion on DxS. I found him Neutral, because despite the suspicious things he done, faceman attacked him, and I though faceman was scum. Now that I don't quite think faceman is scum, DxS is now on top of my suspicions list.Quaraezha wrote:
Since people are now suspicious of DxS, you try to defend him by saying that he seems neutral.
I find it hilarious about NoHItter's tactics to FoS me without actually doing it.
I now have HUGE SUSPICIONS on NoHItter. Afterall, you were the one who made the wrong call on rust and I had equal suspicions on both of you. (Also, no targeting bmin mafia?)
hahahaha....
I now have HUGE SUSPICIONS on NoHItter. Afterall, you were the one who made the wrong call on rust and I had equal suspicions on both of you. (Also, no targeting bmin mafia?)
hahahaha....
Also, wouldn't mafia rather nightkill someone who could probably "have more of an impact on day 3 to attempt to lynch mafia?" Still believe you're underestimating town whoever you are mafia...
It's not over yet though NoHItter.
It's not over yet though NoHItter.
FWIW, you don't have to FoS someone to show you are suspicious of them.
Yes. My call on rust was wrong, but what he did scummy regardless.
Scumhunting means finding something scummy that someone did. rust did something scummy, so I thought that he was mafia.
Yes. My call on rust was wrong, but what he did scummy regardless.
Scumhunting means finding something scummy that someone did. rust did something scummy, so I thought that he was mafia.
Keep FWIW'ing me and that just makes you trollish, mafia's tend to target only one user cause they think that at this point that's a town since you have better odds.
Still want some justification.
Still want some justification.
I assume you mean that mafia tend to only target one person as they have better odds of having him lynched?DeathxShinigami wrote:
Keep FWIW'ing me and that just makes you trollish, mafia's tend to target only one user cause they think that at this point that's a town since you have better odds.
Well, I'm not mafia and the reason I think you're the only one suspicious at the moment is because who is acting suspiciously.
The second mafia can wait. Once someone flips scum, it's easy to find links between him and another person.
FYI I also considered faceman's actions suspicious, but he justified his actions and thus I didn't find it suspicious anymore.
I already posted my justification.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Still want some justification.
NoHItter wrote:
Since the start, DxS has been playing oddly. "Bluffing" bmin, etc. His vote on rust, after mine, seems to be just hoping on the bandwagon. Though since I think 0_o is most likely Mafia, then I think DxS isn't Mafia. Neutral
NoHItter wrote:
That was my read/opinion on DxS. I found him Neutral, because despite the suspicious things he done, faceman attacked him, and I though faceman was scum. Now that I don't quite think faceman is scum, DxS is now on top of my suspicions list.
Why the hell don't you target someone else if you're not mafia then?
Think I pretty much found out who mafia is now if your claim is true...
Think I pretty much found out who mafia is now if your claim is true...
Oh right, might as well answer that questionnaire from earlier:
[b]1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?[/b] Either vanilla townie or mafia. Townie because you can go all out without worrying about being nightkilled, and mafia because lying is fun :)
2) [b]Would you lynch lurkers?[/b] It depends on the situation. In big games where one can afford a few mislynches then I'm ok with cutting the fat so long as there's not much else to go on, but in smaller games like these it's a lot more risky.
3) [b]In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?[/b] I find that I sometimes have trouble distiguishing the line
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference) Helps build character upon later games but usually it's not that important.
[b]1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?[/b] Either vanilla townie or mafia. Townie because you can go all out without worrying about being nightkilled, and mafia because lying is fun :)
2) [b]Would you lynch lurkers?[/b] It depends on the situation. In big games where one can afford a few mislynches then I'm ok with cutting the fat so long as there's not much else to go on, but in smaller games like these it's a lot more risky.
3) [b]In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?[/b] I find that I sometimes have trouble distiguishing the line
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference) Helps build character upon later games but usually it's not that important.
Oh right, might as well answer that questionnaire from earlier:
[b]1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?[/b] Either vanilla townie or mafia. Townie because you can go all out without worrying about being nightkilled, and mafia because lying is fun :)
2) [b]Would you lynch lurkers?[/b] It depends on the situation. In big games where one can afford a few mislynches then I'm ok with cutting the fat so long as there's not much else to go on, but in smaller games like these it's a lot more risky.
3) [b]In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?[/b] I find that I sometimes have trouble distiguishing the line
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference) Helps build character upon later games but usually it's not that important.
[b]1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?[/b] Either vanilla townie or mafia. Townie because you can go all out without worrying about being nightkilled, and mafia because lying is fun :)
2) [b]Would you lynch lurkers?[/b] It depends on the situation. In big games where one can afford a few mislynches then I'm ok with cutting the fat so long as there's not much else to go on, but in smaller games like these it's a lot more risky.
3) [b]In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?[/b] I find that I sometimes have trouble distiguishing the line
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference) Helps build character upon later games but usually it's not that important.
0_o, you answered that like pages ago >_>
And I'm still getting a feel of bandwagon from your post because...
1. you did not HoS before voting (you were able to post before the lynch)
2. Your reasoning was loose ("The reasoning on rust may be very vague but right now considering with all of the time left", "his posts urk me anyways")
If you were unsure with your vote, you should have HoSed and waited for other's (or even rust45) to post their opinions. You always seem to be a bit in a rush whenever you vote :<
HoS on DxS (I told you, I'm going to play fair and not biased)
Because he's so certain that you are mafia and NoHItter indeed FoSed 0_o as well until 0_o defenced it back. Why don't you try to defence instead?DeathxShinigami wrote:
Why the hell don't you target someone else if you're not mafia then?
And I'm still getting a feel of bandwagon from your post because...
1. you did not HoS before voting (you were able to post before the lynch)
2. Your reasoning was loose ("The reasoning on rust may be very vague but right now considering with all of the time left", "his posts urk me anyways")
If you were unsure with your vote, you should have HoSed and waited for other's (or even rust45) to post their opinions. You always seem to be a bit in a rush whenever you vote :<
HoS on DxS (I told you, I'm going to play fair and not biased)
.....what?? I didn't post those. I actually have no idea what happened there.
Kill town = GJ
Just guessing that mafia is a combo of
0_o + Player Q
0_o + bmin
bmin + Player Q
if NoHItter's statement is true.
Just guessing that mafia is a combo of
0_o + Player Q
0_o + bmin
bmin + Player Q
if NoHItter's statement is true.
Hey, you left your self outDxS wrote:
if NoHItter's statement is true.
And it's pretty obvious we would have a combination of bmin11, 0_o, and Q as possible mafias if you exclude you and NoHItter out >_>;;
Why should I include myself if I don't see myself as mafia?
it doesn't matter anyways if you guys want to lynch me or if mafia wants to kill me.
I won't be winning the game anyways no matter what alignment I am.
End of story.
it doesn't matter anyways if you guys want to lynch me or if mafia wants to kill me.
I won't be winning the game anyways no matter what alignment I am.
End of story.
......... being a defeatist is not the right choice and I thought you learnt this on your last game.....DeathxShinigami wrote:
Why should I include myself if I don't see myself as mafia?
it doesn't matter anyways if you guys want to lynch me or if mafia wants to kill me.
I won't be winning the game anyways no matter what alignment I am.
End of story.
And my last post isn't suppose to be serious at all. Just pointing out that you were saying the obvious >_>;;;;;;;
Defeatist doesn't mean that whoevers side I belong to loses. I'm just saying it's useless to jump onto every little detail onto my post.
But hey, I had a good run in newbie mafia.
But hey, I had a good run in newbie mafia.
okay 25 hour bump
Wanna kill me mafia?
Wanna kill me mafia?
........you still haven't said anything about your hasty vote...... there must be a reason why you voted without HoSing.......
And I'll be on a flight to S.Korea for the next 24 hours
And I'll be on a flight to S.Korea for the next 24 hours
I just found out the next 24+@ hours are my last hours before the dead line. May we get an extension since it's an important lynch that would require everyone's vote (lylo state) ?
I was away all yesterday and I have a final to study for today... so I would be in favour of an extension as well, if possible.
Sigh. Frankly I'm getting bored with this topic already, so I'm going to gambit. (If Town loses because of this, then sorry)
I'm going to place a vote on someone I think is scum. If there are no two consecutive votes for a hammer, then that means one of two things.
1) I'm scum.
2) The one I voted is scum.
(Well there is a third option that we're both scum, but it's too much WIFOM)
With this there is a 1/2 chance I hit scum correctly.
Quaraezha: I have no read on him. he doesn't post often and all his posts are in agreement to what others say. Neutral.
DeathxShinigami: I've already said my reasoning on him as to why I think he's scummy, but his recent posts seem to tell me that he's frustrated town. Neutral.
0_o: Replaced iMuffin and gives content. There's the issue of the dichotomy on Day 2, but explained it. Neutral.
bmin11: Townie feel. Lots of good content. Town.
Vote: Quaraezha
/me hopes gambit worked.
I'm going to place a vote on someone I think is scum. If there are no two consecutive votes for a hammer, then that means one of two things.
1) I'm scum.
2) The one I voted is scum.
(Well there is a third option that we're both scum, but it's too much WIFOM)
With this there is a 1/2 chance I hit scum correctly.
Quaraezha: I have no read on him. he doesn't post often and all his posts are in agreement to what others say. Neutral.
DeathxShinigami: I've already said my reasoning on him as to why I think he's scummy, but his recent posts seem to tell me that he's frustrated town. Neutral.
0_o: Replaced iMuffin and gives content. There's the issue of the dichotomy on Day 2, but explained it. Neutral.
bmin11: Townie feel. Lots of good content. Town.
Vote: Quaraezha
/me hopes gambit worked.
Interesting.
Well I think we are safe for now at least, the only way we lost is if both DxS and bmin are mafia, and I think bmin is a pretty clear town player (though if you aren't then seriously, bravo, you deserve to win this).
So assuming we haven't just lost, the following combinations are NOT mafia:
0_o + DxS
bmin + DxS
bmin + 0_o
I have some other things to say but I would like to hear what the rest of you think of this situation first.
Well I think we are safe for now at least, the only way we lost is if both DxS and bmin are mafia, and I think bmin is a pretty clear town player (though if you aren't then seriously, bravo, you deserve to win this).
So assuming we haven't just lost, the following combinations are NOT mafia:
0_o + DxS
bmin + DxS
bmin + 0_o
I have some other things to say but I would like to hear what the rest of you think of this situation first.
Hunch on bmin's town
Leaves 3 others not including myself.
Will he die at night then mafia?
Will I get lynched?
Will we lose 2 towns if that happens?
Running some possibilities. Been wrong before though so really "anything can happen"
Leaning towards a more likely vote on Player Q or NoHItter however.
Leaves 3 others not including myself.
Will he die at night then mafia?
Will I get lynched?
Will we lose 2 towns if that happens?
Running some possibilities. Been wrong before though so really "anything can happen"
Leaning towards a more likely vote on Player Q or NoHItter however.
By the fact that there have been no other votes on Quaraezha by 0_o and DxS, it means my gambit paid off.
Either me or Quaraezha is mafia.
(Although I'm pretty sure Quaraezha is.)
Either me or Quaraezha is mafia.
(Although I'm pretty sure Quaraezha is.)
I would really like to hear what Q has to say.
It's a gamble, I'm not quite sure what else to say to defend myself. lol
Well I'm pretty sure I'm not Mafia, I'm not sure if I should vote for NoHItter because of this gambit thing and how he probably was hoping everyone else would bandwagon with it. But meh, it is gambit.
Well I'm pretty sure I'm not Mafia, I'm not sure if I should vote for NoHItter because of this gambit thing and how he probably was hoping everyone else would bandwagon with it. But meh, it is gambit.