My internet dead line is coming... within 6 minutes ;_;
I hope everything will turn out good *cross finger*. Wish us luck!
I hope everything will turn out good *cross finger*. Wish us luck!
Yeah; we know.NoHItter wrote:
Regarding the "questionnaire":
It's RQS or Random Questioning Stage. Basically it's a way of starting off discussion.
Your "pseudo-vote" looked like an actual vote, because it was bolded. Please make the distinction next time.NoHItter wrote:
That was why at that moment, I pseudo-voted. Your gut isn't supposed to be a huge basis for a permanent vote. (Basically what I did was like a pressure vote except since we can't change votes...)Ph0x wrote:
NoHItter states the entent of his questionnaire, suggests we all "pseudo-vote", then votes (?) for Mashley based on (IMO) just gut feeling. The latter, of course, I didn't like; awful scummy vote.
He wasn't EBWOP'ing; he wasn't trying to cover up what he said at all. You misinterpreted what he said, and he re-explained his intent of the post. Of course, maybe I'm wrong, but I highly doubt that here.NoHItter wrote:
Mashley's explanation for his suspicious post, didn't cut it. Doing something suspicious then saying, "Opps. I didn't mean that. It was supposed to be something like this." is not quite a valid excuse. If he EBWOP'd (edit by way of post) and made the correction right after he posted, that would be more acceptable.Ph0x wrote:
NoHItter posts his suspicion list. He continues to have a FoS for Mashley, unswayed by counterarguments to his argument by several other players. He also has a FoS on animask, not believing he is a "confused townie" as the current public opinion seems to be. (Funny that he has tunnel vision for Mashley almost, yet complained about DxS having tunnel vision (which I myself did not see) for bmin.)
Yeah, but normally you don't need to tell people that. They can claim if they believe it'll help their team win. You're just setting people up for a "you didn't claim; you're clearly scum" argument.NoHItter wrote:
Isn't that standard operating procedure for the lynchee? Well it is for MafiaScum.Ph0x wrote:
In this post, NoHItter also tells people who are about to be lynched to claim. Not sure what to make of that.
Nope. An autolynch occurs on majority. Before then, in the "about to get lynched" stage (usually L-1 or L-2), a lynch can still occur on a different player.NoHItter wrote:
Ahh crap. I forgot that since the votes are permanent, claiming when you are about to get lynched is useless.
Nothing wrong with bmin posting a vote count; I did it in a few games.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Where's our host with updated vote counts?
Why are you the host bmin?
Sucks that you won't be able to be here for the last stretch.bmin11 wrote:
My internet dead line is coming... within 6 minutes ;_;
I hope everything will turn out good *cross finger*. Wish us luck!
Yeah. Is that really that unbelievable? ;Panimask wrote:
Did I actually bring up something smart?
Not sure what you mean. Mashley would be lynched then.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Still any thoughts on a 4/4 split? I know it's so situational but you never know.
Yeah? Unless animask gets five votes, Mashley will be lynched. Read the rules:DeathxShinigami wrote:
I meant with imuffin still MIA and the remaining non voters voting for animask.
Kinda hoped imuffin would've been around more for Day 1 since this was a critical day in general.
It'd create a 4/4 split unless you mean mashley gets lynched based on the times people voted.
Rules wrote:
In the event of a draw, the player who had the most votes before being tied will be lynched.
Well, it's either Mashley or animask at this point. Unless iMuffin pops up in the next few hours, it's gonna be Mashley.rust45 wrote:
I'm not getting that gut feeling that other people are having for Mashley, and I still think animask is a confused townie, so I think I may just hold back my vote for today unless something convinces me to vote for one of them. I could vote for someone else but I figure it'd probably be useless.
Well on the bright side...bmin11 wrote:
Ok, who the hell's the doctor here? Not saving Ph0X?
This is just fantastic.... we lost a cop and the master brain of this game D:
bmin11 (That vote totaling and list of FoS's led me to think Mashley was mafia but I got confused when you went for animask and phox went for mashley intended split voting? so you can lure other players like me?)tbh I didn't saw it coming. I never thought of reversing my list and the outcomes of it ;_;....
Hmm? Mashley claimed cop 4 hours after rust's last post. I don't see any evidence that rust was aware of the cop claim... unless I'm missing something.bmin11 wrote:
And after reading DxS's post and the thread itself, Mashley did claimed cop before rust45 to post. This means, rust45 KNEW Mashley could have been a cop.
bmin11, you assumed I was the Doctor pretty quickly. You're using logic or you have been thinking that all this time.
I just assumed that someone would protect Ph0X (which you stated earlier) since he was the most useful. Anyone else could
have been the Doctor.
You said "HAS to be one" and I thought you were pretty clear with the role blocker thing. I guess you were just assuming ._.;; I was also wating for a counter-claim, but no one yet have done it (maybe it's NoHitter or Q? They are sleeping at the moment so that could be why they couldn't role claim).animask wrote:
Mafia Roleblocker. There has to be one.
*puff* great, I was day dreaming I guess orz..... Face palm for me and I unFoS rust450_o wrote:
Hmm? Mashley claimed cop 4 hours after rust's last post. I don't see any evidence that rust was aware of the cop claim... unless I'm missing something.bmin11 wrote:
And after reading DxS's post and the thread itself, Mashley did claimed cop before rust45 to post. This means, rust45 KNEW Mashley could have been a cop.
EDIT: I THINK rust is in the same timezone I am, so that would mean that Mashley claimed at 5:47 AM, and the game ended 10:18 AM, Sunday morning. I'd say there's a pretty good chance he was asleep throughout that time period.
I'm actually 2 hours behind you, but your point is still true, I was asleep. When I looked through the thread when I woke up I told myself I would've voted on animask given the chance. Although I still think animask is a townie I would've done it for the obvious reasons.0_o wrote:
Hmm? Mashley claimed cop 4 hours after rust's last post. I don't see any evidence that rust was aware of the cop claim... unless I'm missing something.bmin11 wrote:
And after reading DxS's post and the thread itself, Mashley did claimed cop before rust45 to post. This means, rust45 KNEW Mashley could have been a cop.
EDIT: I THINK rust is in the same timezone I am, so that would mean that Mashley claimed at 5:47 AM, and the game ended 10:18 AM, Sunday morning. I'd say there's a pretty good chance he was asleep throughout that time period.
Don't we participate to "find out the mafia"? It would be better for the mafia if no one talks and gets no lynch (or try to bandwagon someone)rust45 wrote:
I think it's a better idea to look at who would kill Ph0x, and why. Looking at his last suspicious list, NoHitter and I are on there. If I was mafia, I wouldn't even kill him, as when I'm mafia, I go for those who did participate as much as others, that way I get get someone who was slowing down the game, and possibly an aux role who was trying to go noticed. Ph0x did not meet my conditions for a night 1 kill.
Actually it's possible that they knew there wasn't a doctor. If there are only 2 goons (ie. no roleblocker) then they would have known that there's only one aux role in the game (who just died).bmin11 wrote:
Ph0X's death is a huge gain for mafia and they took the risk of being blocked by the doctor.
I'll be as active as I can, but I don't want to have the expectation of being a Ph0X replacement here. I'll pick out things as I see them, but don't expect me to do constant post-by-post analyses of the entire game. Not my style~DeathxShinigami wrote:
0_o (I know you're willing to take on ph0x's role of looking at all the data and helping us get a general idea of the situation [...]
/me Looks through the role list0_o wrote:
Actually it's possible that they know there isn't a doctor. If there are only 2 goons (ie. no roleblocker) then they would know that there's only one aux role in the game (who just died).bmin11 wrote:
Ph0X's death is a huge gain for mafia and they took the risk of being blocked by the doctor.
• 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies.oh wow, you are right. If there are two goons, only one aux role is give to townies. Thanks
• 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Doctor, 6 Vanilla Townies.
I'm merely posting anything that comes into my head right now. Theories, I guess and on day 1, I couldn't really add and infoes because a lot of times were spent around animask, DxS (you), Mashley, and Ph0X talking eachother.DxS wrote:
Hmm...bmin, is it just me or are you posting a lot just to add in more info? or just really chatty now that ph0x is gone?
You awake to see Ph0X nailed to the wall, with paper from the ballots stuffed in his mouth. They all read "Ph0X".Just realized. Dats sexy.
Because if they DO get informed and they got a positive from it, our doctor is no better then a townie. We can at least have a confirmed townie by asking the doctor to claim it's role if the doctor tried to protect Ph0X and failed (failed will give mafia a positive block result, thus they know who's the doctor).animask wrote:
bmin11, asking if roleblocker gets informed. Suspicious, but seems innocent.
As I answered before, I was assuming you were the doctor since you said...animask wrote:
He's right to assume that I'm not mafia, but as a Doctor, no.
and only the doctor (or the role blocker IF they gets informed) would be sure of this. You sounded pretty sure of it when you said "has to be one". If I'm taking your posts to directly and not seeing your hidden thoughts (ex: "I was only assuming even though I said HAS to"), please make it clear for me ._.;;animask wrote:
Mafia Roleblocker. There has to be one.
How else would I play? So yeah, this is how I play, I guess.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Can you at least tell me straight up if this is how you play? Cause it's really annoying me to animask.
Cool or chill?animask wrote:
How else would I play? So yeah, this is how I play, I guess.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Can you at least tell me straight up if this is how you play? Cause it's really annoying me to animask.
Interesting. Why so? (as always, I want reasoning)animask wrote:
0_o the replacement. I get the feeling DxS could be working with you. (If I'm right I'll give myself 2 points for guessing right.)
DxS could be the normal mafia goon and 0_o could be the roleblocker/mafia.bmin11 wrote:
Interesting. Why so? (as always, I want reasoning)animask wrote:
0_o the replacement. I get the feeling DxS could be working with you. (If I'm right I'll give myself 2 points for guessing right.)
Huh? *confused*animask wrote:
At first I suspected Quy, but if iMuffin was active, he would try to find out the cop/doctor.
He probably wanted to have a safe vote. By having no counter-claims, Mashley would be very likely to be a cop. If there WAS a cop and counter-claimed? Mashley would be confirmed mafia. Even if he wasn't, we could always just lynch the person to counter-claimed (no townie wants to take the risk of counter-claiming). The cop could have chosen to not claim even knowing that guy is a mafia and this is would be the best option at that moment (Mashley had the most vote and rust was sleeping). Sadly, that wasn't the case.animask wrote:
Originally, I also suspected Quy, because of how he voted for me and wanted me to claim. (He wanted someone to counter-claim as Cop in order to protect Mashley who he thought was cop).
I'm not sure how mafia would want to copy someones playing style. Any thoughts on why?animask wrote:
BUT, DxS seems to be focusing on accusations and sus(s). He isn't providing much to his accusations, because he is
trying to copy me in some ways. That might be why he wants to know my play style. He notices that I "beat around the bush when you're not directly quoting actions".
No.bmin11 wrote:
MOD: Does the Role Blocker gets informed if they role blocked successfully?
Thank youLadySuburu wrote:
No.bmin11 wrote:
MOD: Does the Role Blocker gets informed if they role blocked successfully?
animask wrote:
DxS probably thinks that I'm a threat in some way (to both mafia and townie) due to my reckless newbie playing, but he is using that to eliminate any suspicions on him.
I don't think DxS is on to you, animaskDxS wrote:
animask (Pulled a fast one on me now but hey, newbies learn you get the least of my suspicions)
And because of that, I brought it up here as a list (man, do I love listing)animask wrote:
NoHiTter asked if voting for lurkers was alright or not.
Suprisingly, some semi-lurkers actually answered.
http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php ... reviations0_o wrote:
Could someone tell me what sus(s) means? animask keeps saying it and I have never heard the term before..
I do have things to say but I'll do it tomorrow when I don't have things I should really be doing right now >_>
This is very true, but a lot of things in mafia are WIFOM. However without concrete evidence, I'm not going to vote on you just for the night kill.NoHItter wrote:
About the NK on Ph0x: It is WIFOM to say that someone is probably "scum" because the person who died suspected him.
This question will just add more WIFOM into the mix. Why did you bring it up? Define "help a lot"rust45 wrote:
If you were mafia, who would you kill on Night 1 if there wasn't a confirmed power role?
I already answered, and it was about killing people who were less active so that lurkers can be killed to move the game faster and since auxs often are less active.
The only reason you posted about me being suspicious was "bmin11 with his roleclaiming thing" on Day 1 and I think it's time for you to refresh your reasoning.Q wrote:
FoS on bmin11
You seem to be very concerned with the leader role. Do we actually need a leader in this game? From what I see from Ph0X, having a leader could be very dangerous, specailly if we have to be carefull with lynching now (we only have 5 townies left)DxS wrote:
(Could be a good game leader as replacing ph0x as he really got more informative in the end of day 1)
bmin11 wrote:
You seem to be very concerned with the leader role. Do we actually need a leader in this game? From what I see from Ph0X, having a leader could be very dangerous, specailly if we have to be carefull with lynching now (we only have 5 townies left)DxS wrote:
(Could be a good game leader as replacing ph0x as he really got more informative in the end of day 1)
Kinda a mix of both, my bro's back from college and I've been hanging out with him, and due to me not being as good at anaslyis I can't keep detailed opinions like Ph0x.DeathxShinigami wrote:
rust however just seems either busy in RL or really vague in mafia games unless that's how he rolls too...
So would you consider yourself a player who tries to get the job done quickly? (I'm not accusing you of anything but you seem to be trying to do that right now if you're a townie, as you're doing a great job of trying to scum hunt.)bmin11 wrote:
For rust45's questionI understand it's only a WIFOM, but I think it's worth a try (even risking the confusion). So, if I was a mafia, I would have went for Ph0X. As I mentioned earlier; "without a cop, only thing we have is someone with an eye and a wit" and Ph0X was definately the biggest threat to mafias even if Ph0X was FoSing them or not at the time being
Anyway, I'm kinda curious as to why Q Fos'd bmin, I don't quite see what bmin has done lately (if at all) is suspcious in my book.Quy and bmin are both mafia and Quy is accusing bmin, because of how much information hes putting in.
I don't get this part. You are saying, Q (the mafia) wants bmin11 (the other mafia) to be lynched because he's giving too much information to the townies??? This is the stupidest idea I've ever heard in this game. No mafia wants his partner to die unless they are having a betrayal issue (in that case, mafia would have told us who were the mafias already by now)animask wrote:
Quy and bmin are both mafia and Quy is accusing bmin, because of how much information hes putting in.
Jesus Christ animask. Do you know the definition of "assumption"? I said: (image below)animask wrote:
bmin doesn't seem to suspicious, but I will keep the thing about him thinking I'm Doctor in mind.
Thank you. Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you0_o wrote:
For the record I thought animask was pseudo-claiming doctor with his initial comment as well.
Sorry for the lack of activity, I'll try and post more by the end of the day.
Yeahhh we could have avoided a lot of drama if you had just said that in the first place. The mafia already knew you were the doctor because of the successful roleblock so there wasn't any point in hiding it.animask wrote:
Fine, I'm the Doctor already. It's too hard for me to hide it anyways.
I'm having a hard time coming to logical conclusions atm so I'll just wait for some good posts.
Probably getting lynched tonight.
0_o wrote:
Yeahhh we could have avoided a lot of drama if you had just said that in the first place. The mafia already knew you were the doctor because of the successful roleblock so there wasn't any point in hiding it.
If you're telling the truth that is.
Sorry animask, but you've totally got me wrong on this one. I was merely DEFENDING myself. You were thinking I could be the mafia because I was thinking you were a doctor. And I told you not to role claim if mafia doesn't get informed. Another *facepalm* for me. I wasn't trying to prove you were a doctor and you should have known that when I said not to role claim if mafia doesn't get informed. Why do you think I was asking LS if mafia would get informed? Because I wanted to make sure this doctor is safe or not. Well, you just ruined my plan and we are good to say, we lost our doctor.LadySuburu wrote:
No.bmin11 wrote:
MOD: Does the Role Blocker gets informed if they role blocked successfully?
If I were to guess at this very moment, NoHItter and either Q or DxS.0_o wrote:
If you were to guess the mafia right now, who would it be?