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Re: Prodding
I have to leave soon. Will post opinions later.LadySuburu wrote:
17. If a player has not posted in 24 hours, I will prod them if requested to do so. That is, it's up to you to ask me to prod a certain player.
If possible could we get an exact time on when Day 1 actually ends?
@host: When you mean sunday what timezone and actual time do you mean Day 1 will end?
Sorry if I missed it earlier
unexpected RL plans got in the way so won't be able to post as much as i'd like to for tomorrow.
@host: When you mean sunday what timezone and actual time do you mean Day 1 will end?
Sorry if I missed it earlier
unexpected RL plans got in the way so won't be able to post as much as i'd like to for tomorrow.
Topic Starter
DeathxShinigami wrote:
If possible could we get an exact time on when Day 1 actually ends?
@host: When you mean sunday what timezone and actual time do you mean Day 1 will end?
Sorry if I missed it earlier
unexpected RL plans got in the way so won't be able to post as much as i'd like to for tomorrow.
5 days from the "deadline is in 3 days" post. Forum time should be displayed in your own timezone.
@ Ph0x I'm understanding why you see animask as pro town but he's really an emotional player which makes it seem either a style base of playing like me or he's really new.
Any thoughts?
Any thoughts?
I think right now, I would prefer a lynch among either Mahsley or animask.
Suspicions List (as you go lower, you're less suspicious)
Also since this is a newbie game, if you are about to get lynched, claim.
Suspicions List (as you go lower, you're less suspicious)
SPOILER
Mashley for that comment a while back that pinged me.
animask for role-fishing this early, and the readiness to claim.
DxS pinged me a little with his early attack on bmin over bmin acting like a newbie, and the "bluffing".
Quaraezha and rust45 are sort of neutral. they haven't really said anything to catch my eye.
iMuffin hasn't posted that much at all. Nothing in him.
bmin is participating and seems like town to me. Kind of like rust45, but my gut is telling me town.
Ph0x is also participating. I'm getting a townie read of him. (also are you really strager >.>)
animask for role-fishing this early, and the readiness to claim.
DxS pinged me a little with his early attack on bmin over bmin acting like a newbie, and the "bluffing".
Quaraezha and rust45 are sort of neutral. they haven't really said anything to catch my eye.
iMuffin hasn't posted that much at all. Nothing in him.
bmin is participating and seems like town to me. Kind of like rust45, but my gut is telling me town.
Ph0x is also participating. I'm getting a townie read of him. (also are you really strager >.>)
Also since this is a newbie game, if you are about to get lynched, claim.
Fine, Coming clean since we have less than 24 hours to go
I bluffed cause I wanted to see if bmin was just messing around during day 1 when we first started. I was just trying to see if he would bandwagon but he hasn't yet and actually knows how to play the game. You can say I just got a little "over reactive" when I made that post against him earlier.
I bluffed cause I wanted to see if bmin was just messing around during day 1 when we first started. I was just trying to see if he would bandwagon but he hasn't yet and actually knows how to play the game. You can say I just got a little "over reactive" when I made that post against him earlier.
Vote animask as we're approaching the end of day 1 (again) and I have nothing else to go by. Same reason I voted for him previously, of course.
Saving my vote for late once I know who to vote for.
Not stating my current suspicions, but I will say that DxS and Ph0X aren't both included.
Not stating my current suspicions, but I will say that DxS and Ph0X aren't both included.
First, I think animask is a townie now (ya I might have gotten influenced by Ph0X but whatever). He's posts were short plotted and seem to hold some tension from being accused, not knowing what to do (haven't really defenced himself great nor convincing). This should not be the case if he had a partner to discuss with. If he was a mafia, he wouldn't have driven himself this far behind, unless his mafia fellow was being afk.
DxS? gotta say he does look suspicious. However, he finally told us what he was trying to 'bluff' out from me. His intention to figure if I'm going to bandwagon him is kind of confusing at my stage. However, I understood as a test on friendship. It would be reasonable to me since the friendship factor would play a role between us in this game. My answer is 'no'. This is my first game and I'm looking forward to it. I will do my best to play fair and promise not to be bias. Anyway, since I believe his intention, he got a rank down on my suspicion list (for now).
Right now, my attention is flowing to iMuffin. As I wrote on animask's paragraph; "unless his mafia fellow was being afk", and IF that's true, then I'm thinking of iMuffin as a most likely mafia around here next to animask. He could have intentionaly lurked during the game and as I answered on NoHitter's questionnaire; "I think they are lurking because of their position (cop/doc). It's likely to be a mafia, but I want to wait for the cop to find them first". I do mention about it could be a cop/doc, but I'm getting a hinch of a 'likely to be a mafia'. We could lynch animask or iMuffin to confirm this theory, but because I think animask could be the power role (he did mention about role claiming), I think it's much safer to lynch iMuffin if we are trying to figure out this animask - iMuffin alignment.
HoS on iMuffin and minor FoS on DxS and minorFoS on Mashley (only if animask - iMuffin alignment isn't ture)
DxS? gotta say he does look suspicious. However, he finally told us what he was trying to 'bluff' out from me. His intention to figure if I'm going to bandwagon him is kind of confusing at my stage. However, I understood as a test on friendship. It would be reasonable to me since the friendship factor would play a role between us in this game. My answer is 'no'. This is my first game and I'm looking forward to it. I will do my best to play fair and promise not to be bias. Anyway, since I believe his intention, he got a rank down on my suspicion list (for now).
Right now, my attention is flowing to iMuffin. As I wrote on animask's paragraph; "unless his mafia fellow was being afk", and IF that's true, then I'm thinking of iMuffin as a most likely mafia around here next to animask. He could have intentionaly lurked during the game and as I answered on NoHitter's questionnaire; "I think they are lurking because of their position (cop/doc). It's likely to be a mafia, but I want to wait for the cop to find them first". I do mention about it could be a cop/doc, but I'm getting a hinch of a 'likely to be a mafia'. We could lynch animask or iMuffin to confirm this theory, but because I think animask could be the power role (he did mention about role claiming), I think it's much safer to lynch iMuffin if we are trying to figure out this animask - iMuffin alignment.
HoS on iMuffin and minor FoS on DxS and minorFoS on Mashley (only if animask - iMuffin alignment isn't ture)
By the way, does anyone knows how to check the forum time? I'm still not clear with the dead line orz
Topic Starter
On your post that you just posted, read what time it says it is. For me, I get Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:10 pm (3 minutes ago) .bmin11 wrote:
By the way, does anyone knows how to check the forum time? I'm still not clear with the dead line orz
Once you look at what it says for you, figure out how far off it is. Then use that to correct whatever time it said on my post back then.
Also, head into Settings and fix your time so you can know always.
I'm sorry but the forum time is set to whatever GMT Timezone we set it.
For me, it says "Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:10 am (6 minutes ago)" and I use GMT + 8
For me, it says "Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:10 am (6 minutes ago)" and I use GMT + 8
Topic Starter
Like I said. So, exactally 5 days from the time I posted my post. Since it's set to your timezone, you should know exactally when the deadline is.Quaraezha wrote:
I'm sorry but the forum time is set to whatever GMT Timezone we set it.
For me, it says "Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:10 am (6 minutes ago)" and I use GMT + 8
Oh, okay.
First, comments since my last post.
(Yeah, I totally stole your colour, Q. ;P)
Anyway, I re-read the thread. Here are my thoughts.
animask's famous rolefishing post. bmin's response paints him as a newbie, likely pro-town. DxS shows suspicion of bmin.
animask shows true newbiness, responding to bmin's post rather poorly.
DxS talks about bmin again. I already stated my comments on this post, so I won't repeat them here. So far, bmin's posts have been sound and well-formed; clearly not newbie behaviour. bmin's first post (the response to animask) now (in hindsight) looks more like assistance, rather than newbiness.
animask covers his mistake, claiming playfulness. animask may not have been using that as a cover, but it certainly appears that way, so that's what I believe.
DxS's response to my comments of his accusations against bmin attempts to sound sportsmanship-like, but comes across as defensive and an OMGUS post. The end of his next post has a similar tone; as I stated in response, "[DxS is] stating the obvious, but in a weird way, and in a way which deters attention from [himself]."
NoHItter posted his questionnaire, and I am still unsure what to make of it. For now I have been ignoring it. In hindsight, it may have been an attempt to get the attention off of DxS or another player. Possible implicit buddying; will keep that in mind in the future. (However, at the same time, he throws a minor FoS at DxS, so this argument against NoHItter isn't too strong. Maybe bmin?)
animask posts "Why I would want to scope out for aux roles..." Just realized: it doesn't sound like animask performed this analysis before posting the initial rolefishing post. At first, I conclude "animask was a newbie for not considering the consequences of his actions". However, there's the "intentionally not caring about the consequences" argument as well, painting him as a mafia member. This is cause for suspicion, but I am not sure what to believe out of this yet. Also, as I stated soon after, a few of these reasonings were "wrong", so either animask was trying to populate the list with good intentions (to defend himself) or he didn't realize how silly those suggestions were (supporting his newbiness).
I posted asking for iMuffin's thoughts; I still have yet to receive any response or acknowledgement from him.
animask makes a short-sighted comment in his defense. This post also shows behaviour of either a very newbie townie or a desperate mafia member. Either way, it's a suspicious comment (as I have already posted).
Mashley stated a "soft FoS" against animask. Personally, I don't find what Mashley said to be disturbing, but others were offset by it. The way I see it, Mashley was having a gut feeling against animask, but did not have the analytical evidence to back up a vote.
I commented on DxS's "hectic atmosphere" post by saying "Maybe it's because I'm making you sweat. ;P" It may have seemed like I was being playful, but it seemed clear to me that DxS was feeling pressured. DxS's response, backing out, supports this. However, I can certainly see someone who wasn't being pressured making the same move. Still, I don't think it was a very DxS-y thing to do.
Q pops in to answer the quiz, yet says nothing else. Detachment from the game: a classic mafia tell.
NoHItter suggests we all post suspicion lists. While suspicions lists aren't suspicious in general, asking for them (in my experience) is a scum tell. (I have, however, seen townies ask for it, but only late-game.) More suspicion points for NoHItter. In the same post, NoHItter votes for Mashley. His reasoning is very weak; I would expect a FoS at most. Being the first to vote makes NoHItter seem like they're genuinely scumhunting, but I'm not falling for it. Mashley defends the attacked post, confirming my thoughts of that post (see above). (A comment from bmin (as well as one by me) appears later on.)
More newbie posting by animask, and again, explained in the trailing posts.
Mashley votes for animask. From what I see, this is almost completely due to pressure, from NoHItter and from the clock (day was ending soon then), and not due to exhaustive reasoning. Sure, Mashley states vague suspicions ("[t]he things he's said just seem so not-town-like"), but not even attempting to elaborate supports my pressure argument. Of course, I am not denying the fact that Mashley could be a mafia member trying to land a popular vote. While that is a definite possibility, I find he pressure argument more believable at this point.
bmin asks for opinions of animask (of a specific pair of posts). This is very pro-town to me. Being analytical in his next post regarding Mashley also gives bmin a few town points.
DxS votes for animask. Him not doing this immediately leads me to believe he and Mashley are not buddies (as he didn't save Mashley from a vote) (but, of course, either of them may be).
LS extends Day 1 by 48 hours. Yippee!
NoHItter explains how2Mafia to animask. Good boy. Shows experience, but nothing else, sadly. (Really wanna figure out this guy...)
Q finally voices his opinions. I agree with his findings regarding animask (which you can see in my comments above). (I am still not entirely convinced, though.) He throws a FoS at Mashley, with reasoning which was quickly disputed and shot down. His FoS against bmin is also pretty weak, and seems to be just hopping onto what NoHItter asked of bmin rather than any analytical findings. From this post, and his general lack of engagement with the game, it seems Q doesn't seem to interested in the game. He looks like a good player, though, and it doesn't look like he's "just a lurker". This results in some suspicion from me.
DxS changes his opinion of animask. Nothing wrong with that; I do it all the time. He also realizes bmin isn't a newbie (which I quickly discovered myself), which is good. Other than that, his post doesn't provide too much information other than "now I don't find anyone suspicious".
bmin jumps on the "animask is prolly newb town" bandwagon. Progress, but also not helpful (like with DxS) to me.
rust posts his opinions of other players, which no suspicions whatsoever. =[
NoHItter posts his suspicions. Seems like NoHItter's opinions hasn't changed like those of most other players. I still don't like his reasoning. I also find it suspicious that he didn't find anything wrong with iMuffin's absenteeism.
DxS explains his "bluff" from earlier in the day. I don't completely believe him (it may be a cover-up), but based on what he has said and done in the past, his excuse seems reasonable.
bmin posts his iMuffin-animask mafia theory. It's pretty convincing; I am willing to try it. However, currently the idea doesn't align well with my suspicions.
Player comments (in alpha order)
DxS
Used to be my #1 suspicion. That has changed, however. I thought he was buddying with bmin (and I did not know about their meta relationship, whatever it is), and both are now is distancing (perhaps in realization?). If bmin or DxS turn up mafia, I am looking critically at the other. Still, no FoS at this point.
Mashley
Seems pretty newb, though I am sure I've seen him play before. Doesn't really explain himself well. Seems to be voting for animask because it's an easy vote, which is suspicious. FoS.
NoHItter
Strong FoS. Insistant on animask and Mashley. Some suspicious activity in the name of aiding discussions, which has confused the town. Doesn't seem to be too analytical himself; wants others to do the dirty work for him so he can just use their opinions, I find.
Ph0X
Hehehe.
Q
Netbattler Q.
My opinion of him is hazy. I should probably do some more mining on this guy, as he has slightly hit my radar a few times. Minor FoS for now.
animask
As I posted in my analysis, and as other players have come to conclude, I feel animask is pro-town, but very newbie. I want to keep him around because IMO it would suck if he died day 1 without a chance to really play the game.
bmin
Pretty cool guy; doesn't afraid of anything. Either a really good mafia or a decent townie. My money's on the latter.
iMuffin
WHERE ARE YOU?
rust
Actually, I don't know. Let me look...
Oh look, I have only one comment about him. And it's pretty much useless. That trips my alarm! FoS! May have to look at him in isolation. Will do that in a follow-up post.
Suspicion list (tiered, alpha)
~ Suspicious ~
NoHItter
rust
Mashley
~ Not-so-suspicious ~
DxS
iMuffin
Q
animask
bmin
Ph0X
(Yeah, I totally stole your colour, Q. ;P)
Wups; I was probably thinking of that PyP game.NoHItter wrote:
Re: ProddingI have to leave soon. Will post opinions later.LadySuburu wrote:
17. If a player has not posted in 24 hours, I will prod them if requested to do so. That is, it's up to you to ask me to prod a certain player.
Yes; see my analysis below.DeathxShinigami wrote:
@ Ph0x I'm understanding why you see animask as pro town but he's really an emotional player which makes it seem either a style base of playing like me or he's really new.
Any thoughts?
Mashley, what do you think of NoHItter's suspicions of you, exactly? I know you defended yourself already, but what of NoHItter's persistence?NoHItter wrote:
I think right now, I would prefer a lynch among either Mahsley or animask.
[...]
Mashley for that comment a while back that pinged me.
Haha! Kinda funny; I already saw that (see analysis below).bmin11 wrote:
First, I think animask is a townie now (ya I might have gotten influenced by Ph0X but whatever).
I didn't see that, and I agree with you. However, there are other ways a mafia can defend his buddy besides direct defense, including trying to vote for someone else or using extreme distancing to attract reverse attention (which gets really complicated and is hard to pull off ... but whatever).bmin11 wrote:
If he was a mafia, he wouldn't have driven himself this far behind, unless his mafia fellow was being afk.
Really? You look like a pretty decent player.bmin11 wrote:
This is my first game and I'm looking forward to it.
Anyway, I re-read the thread. Here are my thoughts.
animask's famous rolefishing post. bmin's response paints him as a newbie, likely pro-town. DxS shows suspicion of bmin.
animask shows true newbiness, responding to bmin's post rather poorly.
DxS talks about bmin again. I already stated my comments on this post, so I won't repeat them here. So far, bmin's posts have been sound and well-formed; clearly not newbie behaviour. bmin's first post (the response to animask) now (in hindsight) looks more like assistance, rather than newbiness.
animask covers his mistake, claiming playfulness. animask may not have been using that as a cover, but it certainly appears that way, so that's what I believe.
DxS's response to my comments of his accusations against bmin attempts to sound sportsmanship-like, but comes across as defensive and an OMGUS post. The end of his next post has a similar tone; as I stated in response, "[DxS is] stating the obvious, but in a weird way, and in a way which deters attention from [himself]."
NoHItter posted his questionnaire, and I am still unsure what to make of it. For now I have been ignoring it. In hindsight, it may have been an attempt to get the attention off of DxS or another player. Possible implicit buddying; will keep that in mind in the future. (However, at the same time, he throws a minor FoS at DxS, so this argument against NoHItter isn't too strong. Maybe bmin?)
animask posts "Why I would want to scope out for aux roles..." Just realized: it doesn't sound like animask performed this analysis before posting the initial rolefishing post. At first, I conclude "animask was a newbie for not considering the consequences of his actions". However, there's the "intentionally not caring about the consequences" argument as well, painting him as a mafia member. This is cause for suspicion, but I am not sure what to believe out of this yet. Also, as I stated soon after, a few of these reasonings were "wrong", so either animask was trying to populate the list with good intentions (to defend himself) or he didn't realize how silly those suggestions were (supporting his newbiness).
I posted asking for iMuffin's thoughts; I still have yet to receive any response or acknowledgement from him.
animask makes a short-sighted comment in his defense. This post also shows behaviour of either a very newbie townie or a desperate mafia member. Either way, it's a suspicious comment (as I have already posted).
Mashley stated a "soft FoS" against animask. Personally, I don't find what Mashley said to be disturbing, but others were offset by it. The way I see it, Mashley was having a gut feeling against animask, but did not have the analytical evidence to back up a vote.
I commented on DxS's "hectic atmosphere" post by saying "Maybe it's because I'm making you sweat. ;P" It may have seemed like I was being playful, but it seemed clear to me that DxS was feeling pressured. DxS's response, backing out, supports this. However, I can certainly see someone who wasn't being pressured making the same move. Still, I don't think it was a very DxS-y thing to do.
Q pops in to answer the quiz, yet says nothing else. Detachment from the game: a classic mafia tell.
NoHItter suggests we all post suspicion lists. While suspicions lists aren't suspicious in general, asking for them (in my experience) is a scum tell. (I have, however, seen townies ask for it, but only late-game.) More suspicion points for NoHItter. In the same post, NoHItter votes for Mashley. His reasoning is very weak; I would expect a FoS at most. Being the first to vote makes NoHItter seem like they're genuinely scumhunting, but I'm not falling for it. Mashley defends the attacked post, confirming my thoughts of that post (see above). (A comment from bmin (as well as one by me) appears later on.)
More newbie posting by animask, and again, explained in the trailing posts.
Mashley votes for animask. From what I see, this is almost completely due to pressure, from NoHItter and from the clock (day was ending soon then), and not due to exhaustive reasoning. Sure, Mashley states vague suspicions ("[t]he things he's said just seem so not-town-like"), but not even attempting to elaborate supports my pressure argument. Of course, I am not denying the fact that Mashley could be a mafia member trying to land a popular vote. While that is a definite possibility, I find he pressure argument more believable at this point.
bmin asks for opinions of animask (of a specific pair of posts). This is very pro-town to me. Being analytical in his next post regarding Mashley also gives bmin a few town points.
DxS votes for animask. Him not doing this immediately leads me to believe he and Mashley are not buddies (as he didn't save Mashley from a vote) (but, of course, either of them may be).
LS extends Day 1 by 48 hours. Yippee!
NoHItter explains how2Mafia to animask. Good boy. Shows experience, but nothing else, sadly. (Really wanna figure out this guy...)
Q finally voices his opinions. I agree with his findings regarding animask (which you can see in my comments above). (I am still not entirely convinced, though.) He throws a FoS at Mashley, with reasoning which was quickly disputed and shot down. His FoS against bmin is also pretty weak, and seems to be just hopping onto what NoHItter asked of bmin rather than any analytical findings. From this post, and his general lack of engagement with the game, it seems Q doesn't seem to interested in the game. He looks like a good player, though, and it doesn't look like he's "just a lurker". This results in some suspicion from me.
DxS changes his opinion of animask. Nothing wrong with that; I do it all the time. He also realizes bmin isn't a newbie (which I quickly discovered myself), which is good. Other than that, his post doesn't provide too much information other than "now I don't find anyone suspicious".
bmin jumps on the "animask is prolly newb town" bandwagon. Progress, but also not helpful (like with DxS) to me.
rust posts his opinions of other players, which no suspicions whatsoever. =[
NoHItter posts his suspicions. Seems like NoHItter's opinions hasn't changed like those of most other players. I still don't like his reasoning. I also find it suspicious that he didn't find anything wrong with iMuffin's absenteeism.
DxS explains his "bluff" from earlier in the day. I don't completely believe him (it may be a cover-up), but based on what he has said and done in the past, his excuse seems reasonable.
bmin posts his iMuffin-animask mafia theory. It's pretty convincing; I am willing to try it. However, currently the idea doesn't align well with my suspicions.
Player comments (in alpha order)
DxS
Used to be my #1 suspicion. That has changed, however. I thought he was buddying with bmin (and I did not know about their meta relationship, whatever it is), and both are now is distancing (perhaps in realization?). If bmin or DxS turn up mafia, I am looking critically at the other. Still, no FoS at this point.
Mashley
Seems pretty newb, though I am sure I've seen him play before. Doesn't really explain himself well. Seems to be voting for animask because it's an easy vote, which is suspicious. FoS.
NoHItter
Strong FoS. Insistant on animask and Mashley. Some suspicious activity in the name of aiding discussions, which has confused the town. Doesn't seem to be too analytical himself; wants others to do the dirty work for him so he can just use their opinions, I find.
Ph0X
Hehehe.
Q
Netbattler Q.
My opinion of him is hazy. I should probably do some more mining on this guy, as he has slightly hit my radar a few times. Minor FoS for now.
animask
As I posted in my analysis, and as other players have come to conclude, I feel animask is pro-town, but very newbie. I want to keep him around because IMO it would suck if he died day 1 without a chance to really play the game.
bmin
Pretty cool guy; doesn't afraid of anything. Either a really good mafia or a decent townie. My money's on the latter.
iMuffin
WHERE ARE YOU?
rust
Actually, I don't know. Let me look...
Oh look, I have only one comment about him. And it's pretty much useless. That trips my alarm! FoS! May have to look at him in isolation. Will do that in a follow-up post.
Suspicion list (tiered, alpha)
~ Suspicious ~
NoHItter
rust
Mashley
~ Not-so-suspicious ~
DxS
iMuffin
Q
animask
bmin
Ph0X
....... which you are doing for animask...? I'll keep it on my note for now. Thanks Ph0XPh0X wrote:
I didn't see that, and I agree with you. However, there are other ways a mafia can defend his buddy besides direct defense, including trying to vote for someone else or using extreme distancing to attract reverse attention (which gets really complicated and is hard to pull off ... but whatever).bmin11 wrote:
If he was a mafia, he wouldn't have driven himself this far behind, unless his mafia fellow was being afk.
I know this would contradict to my "iMuffin - animask alignment and if not, Mashley is suspicious" theory lol not weighting this thought for now
awww thanks. I once played a very heavy role based mafia (on online real time) before. Some roles would be able to track the mafia if he targets the victim successfully, some will have one free shot of killing, some will simply not get lynched lol. It was a fast-paced game (only a brief 10min), because mafia would be spotted quite easily >_>...;; but a mafia with only cop/doc/mafia is my first time. Maybe this is why I'm relying to "lets just wait until cop does something". I'm getting the hang of this game now (and yes, no lynch wasn't a good idea I realized orz)Ph0X wrote:
Really? You look like a pretty decent player.
Anyway, /me waits for NoHitter and iMuffin
Another note to Ph0X:
I want to hear more about your suspicion against NoHitter, because to me, it just feels like he's following his gut (quite hasty as well). I just want to hear more from you (or just summarized post) since you are holding the strongest suspicion against NoHitter.
I want to hear more about your suspicion against NoHitter, because to me, it just feels like he's following his gut (quite hasty as well). I just want to hear more from you (or just summarized post) since you are holding the strongest suspicion against NoHitter.
My Newbie Player Comments
Mashley - I get the feeling he is trying to hide something. (Possible aux role or mafia.)
DxS - He seems to be the most (openly) suspicious about me.
imuffin - Lots of lurking. Nothing yet...
bmin11 - Pairing up me and iMuffin as mafia. There are 2 mafia members. I keep forgetting.
rust45 - Lurker #2.
animask - You caused a commotion from the start without actually needing to. Or did you?
NoHItter - Seems almost on par with Ph0X (Probably out of experience, but could be mafia pairing. Not expecting it though)
Quaraezha - I don't really know what to do with this guy.
Ph0x - Semi-right about my circular reasoning. Now I have no idea where to pinpoint you. You'll be useful, but that itself seems suspicious.
Mashley - I get the feeling he is trying to hide something. (Possible aux role or mafia.)
DxS - He seems to be the most (openly) suspicious about me.
imuffin - Lots of lurking. Nothing yet...
bmin11 - Pairing up me and iMuffin as mafia. There are 2 mafia members. I keep forgetting.
rust45 - Lurker #2.
animask - You caused a commotion from the start without actually needing to. Or did you?
NoHItter - Seems almost on par with Ph0X (Probably out of experience, but could be mafia pairing. Not expecting it though)
Quaraezha - I don't really know what to do with this guy.
Ph0x - Semi-right about my circular reasoning. Now I have no idea where to pinpoint you. You'll be useful, but that itself seems suspicious.
animask wrote:
bmin11 - Pairing up me and iMuffin as mafia. There are 2 mafia members(?)
there should be only two mafias according to this list unless LadySuburu is playing with us (and I am not amused in that case)LadySuburu wrote:
It consists of one of the following combinations of roles:
• 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Cop, 1 Doctor, 5 Vanilla Townies.
• 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 7 Vanilla Townies.
• 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies.
• 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Doctor, 6 Vanilla Townies.
I'm not sure if animask is acting out this one. He may be trying to act as if "huh? was there two mafias?" and to convince us he's not a mafia (mafia should know there are two mafias if I didn't count the number wrong). I'm not going to judge this yet, since this will also be confirmed if we lynch iMuffin.
And again, if LadySuburu is playing with us, this post will not even have a penny on it's value
And again, if LadySuburu is playing with us, this post will not even have a penny on it's value
I honestly don't think I've been too quiet in this game (certainly not as much as other games) but I suppose I can't blame you for being suspicious of me for not giving too many opinions, I would probably do the same thing.Ph0X wrote:
rust
Actually, I don't know. Let me look...
Oh look, I have only one comment about him. And it's pretty much useless. That trips my alarm! FoS! May have to look at him in isolation. Will do that in a follow-up post.
Anyway, I'm going to look over my previous opinion list, and revise some of the opinions and post who I find suspicious. That post will be coming soon.
Such long post guys, how do you do than 
Something like 15 hours to go, and I admit I'm starting to regret my vote on animask - the general consensus is right now that he's a confused townie and I can certainly see where that's coming from. Still, I would suggest that people start to get their votes in right now if they intend to vote.
Something like 15 hours to go, and I admit I'm starting to regret my vote on animask - the general consensus is right now that he's a confused townie and I can certainly see where that's coming from. Still, I would suggest that people start to get their votes in right now if they intend to vote.
The next 6 hours is all I got. I'm waiting for opinions from you guys :<
Old Opinions in Italics.
Mashley
Nothing out of the ordinary to me, hasn't really defended himself, but he seems fine to me.
His vote on animask did seem a tad preemptive, but he now says he regrets it after seeing people talking about animask possibly being a confused townie, since he's doesn't seem to be sticking to his guns on who to lynch, that's a plus for me.
DxS
His wording is often confusing, and his early attack at bmin just seemed odd and unjustified.
I don't really buy his claim on bluffing when he attacked bmin, doesn't sit right with me.
imuffin
Who? He needs to be more active and respond to questions other than the questionnaire.
Still can't really form and opinion about you, and lurking is aux or scum tell.
bmin11
Seems fine in my book, has been talking rather smartly and doesn't seem suspicious, he handled DxS odd attack on him just fine.
Still is playing rather well and is making a great analysis of the situation.
rust45
Oh hi.
Hello
animask
Has consistently said things that just plain sound odd and I still don't like the whole rolefishing thing.
After bmin and Ph0x talked about him being a confused townie, it makes sense, and even if he turns out to be scum, we should let him experience more as it's his first game and the night kill might lead to him if he is scum.
NoHItter
The questionnaire was odd but doesn't raise suspicion. I don't understand why he asked for prods of Quarazha and I though.
He doesn't seem to be doing much at all to add the conversation, seems to be distancing himself now. But my gut says he's pro town so I'm thinking his distancing may be aux, still a possibility of scum though.
Quaraezha
Seems to be playing just as he was last game, he was mafia then, but I haven't played many games with him so I can't think of anything wrong.
Still can't think of anything good for him, but he does seem relatively active so that's good.
Ph0x
Is he strager or not? Not like it matters, seems to be the best player here.
Last post showed him being very analytical, and I found myself agreeing with some of the things he said. I think town.
Might be scum:
DxS Gut doesn't feel right with bluffing.
iMuffin Lurking and I can't formulate a good opinion.
Might not be scum:
Everyone else
I actually have a question for Ph0x now though. Why was I put on your "Suspicious" list for on "useless" comment that you have on me. Yet iMuffin is "Not-so-suspicious" even though he's barely been commenting?
Mashley
Nothing out of the ordinary to me, hasn't really defended himself, but he seems fine to me.
His vote on animask did seem a tad preemptive, but he now says he regrets it after seeing people talking about animask possibly being a confused townie, since he's doesn't seem to be sticking to his guns on who to lynch, that's a plus for me.
DxS
His wording is often confusing, and his early attack at bmin just seemed odd and unjustified.
I don't really buy his claim on bluffing when he attacked bmin, doesn't sit right with me.
imuffin
Who? He needs to be more active and respond to questions other than the questionnaire.
Still can't really form and opinion about you, and lurking is aux or scum tell.
bmin11
Seems fine in my book, has been talking rather smartly and doesn't seem suspicious, he handled DxS odd attack on him just fine.
Still is playing rather well and is making a great analysis of the situation.
rust45
Oh hi.
Hello
animask
Has consistently said things that just plain sound odd and I still don't like the whole rolefishing thing.
After bmin and Ph0x talked about him being a confused townie, it makes sense, and even if he turns out to be scum, we should let him experience more as it's his first game and the night kill might lead to him if he is scum.
NoHItter
The questionnaire was odd but doesn't raise suspicion. I don't understand why he asked for prods of Quarazha and I though.
He doesn't seem to be doing much at all to add the conversation, seems to be distancing himself now. But my gut says he's pro town so I'm thinking his distancing may be aux, still a possibility of scum though.
Quaraezha
Seems to be playing just as he was last game, he was mafia then, but I haven't played many games with him so I can't think of anything wrong.
Still can't think of anything good for him, but he does seem relatively active so that's good.
Ph0x
Is he strager or not? Not like it matters, seems to be the best player here.
Last post showed him being very analytical, and I found myself agreeing with some of the things he said. I think town.
Might be scum:
DxS Gut doesn't feel right with bluffing.
iMuffin Lurking and I can't formulate a good opinion.
Might not be scum:
Everyone else
I actually have a question for Ph0x now though. Why was I put on your "Suspicious" list for on "useless" comment that you have on me. Yet iMuffin is "Not-so-suspicious" even though he's barely been commenting?
Topic Starter
There are two mafia members.bmin11 wrote:
there should be only two mafias according to this list unless LadySuburu is playing with us (and I am not amused in that case)
Hey guys, got back from my RL trip.
Last few hours huh...Sorry but I don't have any new opinions to go on for voting.
imuffin has becomed a wildcard possible mafia player in my book however. (Only due to activity though)
Gonna read up on the thread and may post possible last minute opinions otherwise not much to lead on.
Last few hours huh...Sorry but I don't have any new opinions to go on for voting.
imuffin has becomed a wildcard possible mafia player in my book however. (Only due to activity though)
Gonna read up on the thread and may post possible last minute opinions otherwise not much to lead on.
Damn! You've figured me out!bmin11 wrote:
....... which you are doing for animask...? I'll keep it on my note for now. Thanks Ph0XPh0X wrote:
[...] However, there are other ways a mafia can defend his buddy besides direct defense, including trying to vote for someone else or using extreme distancing to attract reverse attention (which gets really complicated and is hard to pull off ... but whatever).
Yeah, I was gonna read him ISO, in addition to rust. Comments are below.bmin11 wrote:
Another note to Ph0X:
I want to hear more about your suspicion against NoHitter, because to me, it just feels like he's following his gut (quite hasty as well). I just want to hear more from you (or just summarized post) since you are holding the strongest suspicion against NoHitter.
Remember: it was just a theory that iMuffin and animask are both mafia.bmin11 wrote:
I'm not sure if animask is acting out this one. He may be trying to act as if "huh? was there two mafias?" and to convince us he's not a mafia (mafia should know there are two mafias if I didn't count the number wrong). I'm not going to judge this yet, since this will also be confirmed if we lynch iMuffin.
I wouldn't look much into animask's comment about the mafia count. It's WIFOM at this point.
I assume you meant "that"? And, it's called re-reading the thread from day 1's beginning and posting your thoughts as you read. ;PMashley wrote:
Such long post guys, how do you do than
Not remembering what you have done ≠ remembering you have done nothing. Also, posting "useless" comments (they weren't really useless; I just didn't gain anything from them) ≠ not posting at all. Separate can of worms.rust45 wrote:
I actually have a question for Ph0x now though. Why was I put on your "Suspicious" list for on "useless" comment that you have on me. Yet iMuffin is "Not-so-suspicious" even though he's barely been commenting?
Anyway, making a vote is still kind of hard for me. I will review my analysis and hopefully make a vote. Until then, here are ISO's of rust and NoHItter.
rust ISO
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=55003&p=885536#p885536
rust responds to DxS's mention of meta. He then voices his suspicions of animask and DxS.
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=55003&p=886319#p886319
rust answers NoHItter's questionnaire. He then says he agrees with me on a minor detail.
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=55003&p=888181#p888181
rust points out a flaw in DxS's logic, then says he'll post his opinions of each player later.
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=55003&p=888714#p888714
rust posts the aforementioned opinions. As I said in my re-read analysis, I gained nothing from this post (besides opinions of rust).
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=55003&p=890130#p890130
rust responds to my analysis, saying he doesn't feel he has been quiet. He then states he will revise his opinion list.
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=55003&p=890144#p890144
rust's revised opinion list. Much more useful than before. I don't like his opinion of himself, though; rather fishy.
It strikes me as odd that rust seems to blindly have agreed to everything I (and I guess bmin) have said about animask, including the point of keeping him around. Keeping him around was more of a meta sympathy (because "I" know animask) than a gaming tactic. (A note: so far, I think animask has been helpful to the discussion overall, which is a big plus.)
The comments rust has made make me less annoyed by him, but they don't really bring anything brand new to the table (just slight modifications of existing opinions).
NoHItter ISO
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=55003&p=885323#p885323
NoHItter posts his questionnaire, shoots an FoS at animask for rolefishing (with elaboration), and shoots a minor FoS at DxS for tunneling then claiming to bluff. Nothing ticked off my radar here.
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=55003&p=886673#p886673
NoHItter states the entent of his questionnaire, suggests we all "pseudo-vote", then votes (?) for Mashley based on (IMO) just gut feeling. The latter, of course, I didn't like; awful scummy vote.
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=55003&p=887894#p887894
NoHItter asks for a prod of three players (two of which have been 'active enough' and didn't need to be prodded IMO), teaches animask how to play, questions bmin, then complains I am not being serious enough. Pretty much zilch on any radar I have seen (except the "boring" radar), as I explained before.
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=55003&p=888203#p888203
NoHItter shots down DxS's argument against Mashley. Just shows that he knows how to play the game.
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=55003&p=888811#p888811
NoHItter corrects me on game rules, then says he'll post his thoughts later.
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=55003&p=889668#p889668
NoHItter posts his suspicion list. He continues to have a FoS for Mashley, unswayed by counterarguments to his argument by several other players. He also has a FoS on animask, not believing he is a "confused townie" as the current public opinion seems to be. (Funny that he has tunnel vision for Mashley almost, yet complained about DxS having tunnel vision (which I myself did not see) for bmin.)
I find it fishy that NoHItter equates "participating" with "being townish". NoHItter: don't make that mistake. ;P Mafia can be a big part of the discussion as well. (See Echo and SFG of older Mafia games.)
In this post, NoHItter also tells people who are about to be lynched to claim. Not sure what to make of that.
Weighing in.
Everyone seems to be all over the place with suspicions still so gonna tier mine at the moment...
NoHItter (Chatty much?)
Mashley (Why no suspicion list like everyone else?)
rust45 (Could be mafia but you were town last game....Confusing)
Player Q (At least you're acting slightly better than last game since you aren't bandwagoning immediately)
imuffin (Seriously be more active)
animask (Pro town? but your playing style is just a little odd to me)
bmin11 (Huge posts for suspicions and fluid answers along with that. Really surprised how well you're playing so not on my suspicions per se)
Ph0x (Intelligence is needed for Day 1 and I like how you're acting like a double host for the game. So low on my suspicions as well)
Didn't include myself since I have gotten no responses yet.
Everyone seems to be all over the place with suspicions still so gonna tier mine at the moment...
NoHItter (Chatty much?)
Mashley (Why no suspicion list like everyone else?)
rust45 (Could be mafia but you were town last game....Confusing)
Player Q (At least you're acting slightly better than last game since you aren't bandwagoning immediately)
imuffin (Seriously be more active)
animask (Pro town? but your playing style is just a little odd to me)
bmin11 (Huge posts for suspicions and fluid answers along with that. Really surprised how well you're playing so not on my suspicions per se)
Ph0x (Intelligence is needed for Day 1 and I like how you're acting like a double host for the game. So low on my suspicions as well)
Didn't include myself since I have gotten no responses yet.
Adding Ph0X to my not voting for list. (for now)
Along with the lurkers.
bmin11, rust45, Mashley and DxS are who I might vote for.
bmin11 seems to focus a lot on mafia accusations as if trying to evade accusations. Trying to avoid being accused himself/herself.(?)
rust45 has a hidden agenda, but will be minority on my list.
Mashely seems to be following majority opinions for some reason. He is trying to fit in too well.
DxS has been suspicious at first, but he also seems to be trying to accuse rather than give information. (I should recheck his posts.)
Along with the lurkers.
bmin11, rust45, Mashley and DxS are who I might vote for.
bmin11 seems to focus a lot on mafia accusations as if trying to evade accusations. Trying to avoid being accused himself/herself.(?)
rust45 has a hidden agenda, but will be minority on my list.
Mashely seems to be following majority opinions for some reason. He is trying to fit in too well.
DxS has been suspicious at first, but he also seems to be trying to accuse rather than give information. (I should recheck his posts.)
Vote: Mashley (again)
Unlike Mashley, I added some reasoning.
Unlike Mashley, I added some reasoning.
In no particular order.... this is what people FoSed so far....
Mashley: Voted on animask but not on FoS anymore
DxS: Mashley and iMuffin
iMuffin: none. Please contribute you lazy :<
bmin11: iMuffin, NoHitter (added), DxS, Mashley (very dependable)
rust45: DxS, iMuffin
animask: bmin11, rust45, Mashley, DxS
NoHitter: Mashley, animask
Q: bmin11, Mashley, DxS, NoHitter
Ph0X: NoHitter, rust45
Some FoSs are old, so please tell me if there's any change on your suspicion list
Mashley: Voted on animask but not on FoS anymore
DxS: Mashley and iMuffin
iMuffin: none. Please contribute you lazy :<
bmin11: iMuffin, NoHitter (added), DxS, Mashley (very dependable)
rust45: DxS, iMuffin
animask: bmin11, rust45, Mashley, DxS
NoHitter: Mashley, animask
Q: bmin11, Mashley, DxS, NoHitter
Ph0X: NoHitter, rust45
Some FoSs are old, so please tell me if there's any change on your suspicion list
This was correct, but animask brings up a good point about Mashley I didn't fully see before now. I'll add him to my FoS list (at the top). If anyone wants, I can elaborate.bmin11 wrote:
Ph0X: NoHitter, rust45
Reversing your list, here is a list of players paired with those with an FoS on them:
Mashley: animask, bmin, DxS, NoHItter, Ph0X, Q
NoHItter: bmin, Ph0X, Q
iMuffin: bmin, DxS, rust
DxS: bmin, Q, rust
animask: Mashley, NoHItter
bmin: animask, Q
rust: animask, Ph0X
Q: (none)
Ph0X: (none)
It's clear that Mashley has the most fingers pointed at him. That's enough to convince me he'll likely be the lynch.
Vote: Mashley
Woah, reverse FoS list? and bmin collaborating all of the FoS's together?
I'm in shock but...I guess if this is all we have to go on...
Vote: Mashley
Also, gonna go to bed soon so I might not be here when the lynch occurs.
I'm in shock but...I guess if this is all we have to go on...
Vote: Mashley
Also, gonna go to bed soon so I might not be here when the lynch occurs.
Regarding the "questionnaire":
It's RQS or Random Questioning Stage. Basically it's a way of starting off discussion.
And with that, Vote: Mashley
It's RQS or Random Questioning Stage. Basically it's a way of starting off discussion.
That was why at that moment, I pseudo-voted. Your gut isn't supposed to be a huge basis for a permanent vote. (Basically what I did was like a pressure vote except since we can't change votes...)Ph0x wrote:
NoHItter states the entent of his questionnaire, suggests we all "pseudo-vote", then votes (?) for Mashley based on (IMO) just gut feeling. The latter, of course, I didn't like; awful scummy vote.
Mashley's explanation for his suspicious post, didn't cut it. Doing something suspicious then saying, "Opps. I didn't mean that. It was supposed to be something like this." is not quite a valid excuse. If he EBWOP'd (edit by way of post) and made the correction right after he posted, that would be more acceptable.Ph0x wrote:
NoHItter posts his suspicion list. He continues to have a FoS for Mashley, unswayed by counterarguments to his argument by several other players. He also has a FoS on animask, not believing he is a "confused townie" as the current public opinion seems to be. (Funny that he has tunnel vision for Mashley almost, yet complained about DxS having tunnel vision (which I myself did not see) for bmin.)
[Possible WIFOM ahead] Yes I admit that mafia can be a part of the discussion, but from my experience, mafia tend to be less active to attarct less attention. Maybe I'm wrong with activeness as a town tell though.Ph0x wrote:
I find it fishy that NoHItter equates "participating" with "being townish". NoHItter: don't make that mistake. ;P Mafia can be a big part of the discussion as well. (See Echo and SFG of older Mafia games.)
Isn't that standard operating procedure for the lynchee? Well it is for MafiaScum.Ph0x wrote:
In this post, NoHItter also tells people who are about to be lynched to claim. Not sure what to make of that.
Wow. Now I know why my gut has been telling me about Mashley from the start. You're right. He has been trying to "fit in". No wonder I felt it odd.animask wrote:
Mashely seems to be following majority opinions for some reason. He is trying to fit in too well.
And with that, Vote: Mashley
EBWOP:
Ahh crap. I forgot that since the votes are permanent, claiming when you are about to get lynched is useless.
Next day I suggest we really go through with a pseudo-voting system before actually voting to give leeway for any changes in suspicions.
Ahh crap. I forgot that since the votes are permanent, claiming when you are about to get lynched is useless.
Next day I suggest we really go through with a pseudo-voting system before actually voting to give leeway for any changes in suspicions.
I stated "dependable" because of my theory I posted before
I do get an impression of 'fitting in', but it's still a bit vague for me to vote on him. He maybe just not thinking critically (same goes to Q. animask earned my respect from his last post against Mashley). It also raises an suspicion whenever the person objects to the popular opinion and he may just wanted to avoid useless suspicion on him.
Even though, it's probably late and it could be a dangerous move, but I'm going to vote animask just to balance it for the second thought. This voting against Mashley is moving too fast (4 votes already). I still demand full contribution from other people on this matter + I would want to hear what Mashley has to say on this as well (he's not on at the moment :<)
Vote counts would be
animask: Mashley, bmin11
Mashley: animask, Ph0X, DxS, NoHitter
I do get an impression of 'fitting in', but it's still a bit vague for me to vote on him. He maybe just not thinking critically (same goes to Q. animask earned my respect from his last post against Mashley). It also raises an suspicion whenever the person objects to the popular opinion and he may just wanted to avoid useless suspicion on him.
Even though, it's probably late and it could be a dangerous move, but I'm going to vote animask just to balance it for the second thought. This voting against Mashley is moving too fast (4 votes already). I still demand full contribution from other people on this matter + I would want to hear what Mashley has to say on this as well (he's not on at the moment :<)
Vote counts would be
animask: Mashley, bmin11
Mashley: animask, Ph0X, DxS, NoHitter
By the way, it's based on my gut, which are the same as you guys >_>
Where's our host with updated vote counts?
Why are you the host bmin?
Anyways, looks like a Mashley or animask decision now. Just hope that it won't be a 4/4 split with imuffin still MIA. Looks like the worst situation since deadline is coming up soon.
Why are you the host bmin?
Anyways, looks like a Mashley or animask decision now. Just hope that it won't be a 4/4 split with imuffin still MIA. Looks like the worst situation since deadline is coming up soon.
My internet dead line is coming... within 6 minutes ;_;
I hope everything will turn out good *cross finger*. Wish us luck!
I hope everything will turn out good *cross finger*. Wish us luck!
The suspense~!!
Did I actually bring up something smart?
Did I actually bring up something smart?
Yeah; we know.NoHItter wrote:
Regarding the "questionnaire":
It's RQS or Random Questioning Stage. Basically it's a way of starting off discussion.
Your "pseudo-vote" looked like an actual vote, because it was bolded. Please make the distinction next time.NoHItter wrote:
That was why at that moment, I pseudo-voted. Your gut isn't supposed to be a huge basis for a permanent vote. (Basically what I did was like a pressure vote except since we can't change votes...)Ph0x wrote:
NoHItter states the entent of his questionnaire, suggests we all "pseudo-vote", then votes (?) for Mashley based on (IMO) just gut feeling. The latter, of course, I didn't like; awful scummy vote.
He wasn't EBWOP'ing; he wasn't trying to cover up what he said at all. You misinterpreted what he said, and he re-explained his intent of the post. Of course, maybe I'm wrong, but I highly doubt that here.NoHItter wrote:
Mashley's explanation for his suspicious post, didn't cut it. Doing something suspicious then saying, "Opps. I didn't mean that. It was supposed to be something like this." is not quite a valid excuse. If he EBWOP'd (edit by way of post) and made the correction right after he posted, that would be more acceptable.Ph0x wrote:
NoHItter posts his suspicion list. He continues to have a FoS for Mashley, unswayed by counterarguments to his argument by several other players. He also has a FoS on animask, not believing he is a "confused townie" as the current public opinion seems to be. (Funny that he has tunnel vision for Mashley almost, yet complained about DxS having tunnel vision (which I myself did not see) for bmin.)
Yeah, but normally you don't need to tell people that. They can claim if they believe it'll help their team win. You're just setting people up for a "you didn't claim; you're clearly scum" argument.NoHItter wrote:
Isn't that standard operating procedure for the lynchee? Well it is for MafiaScum.Ph0x wrote:
In this post, NoHItter also tells people who are about to be lynched to claim. Not sure what to make of that.
Nope. An autolynch occurs on majority. Before then, in the "about to get lynched" stage (usually L-1 or L-2), a lynch can still occur on a different player.NoHItter wrote:
Ahh crap. I forgot that since the votes are permanent, claiming when you are about to get lynched is useless.
An example:
Nine players, four votes on Mashley, one vote on animask. Mashley claims. People believe him, and those who aren't voting vote for animask.
It's unlikely this will be able to happen often, but if it's L-2 it's certainly possible.
Nothing wrong with bmin posting a vote count; I did it in a few games.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Where's our host with updated vote counts?
Why are you the host bmin?
Sucks that you won't be able to be here for the last stretch.bmin11 wrote:
My internet dead line is coming... within 6 minutes ;_;
I hope everything will turn out good *cross finger*. Wish us luck!
Yeah. Is that really that unbelievable? ;Panimask wrote:
Did I actually bring up something smart?
Headed off now.
Still any thoughts on a 4/4 split? I know it's so situational but you never know.
Still any thoughts on a 4/4 split? I know it's so situational but you never know.
Not sure what you mean. Mashley would be lynched then.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Still any thoughts on a 4/4 split? I know it's so situational but you never know.
I meant with imuffin still MIA and the remaining non voters voting for animask.
Kinda hoped imuffin would've been around more for Day 1 since this was a critical day in general.
It'd create a 4/4 split unless you mean mashley gets lynched based on the times people voted.
Kinda hoped imuffin would've been around more for Day 1 since this was a critical day in general.
It'd create a 4/4 split unless you mean mashley gets lynched based on the times people voted.
I'm not getting that gut feeling that other people are having for Mashley, and I still think animask is a confused townie, so I think I may just hold back my vote for today unless something convinces me to vote for one of them. I could vote for someone else but I figure it'd probably be useless.
Yeah? Unless animask gets five votes, Mashley will be lynched. Read the rules:DeathxShinigami wrote:
I meant with imuffin still MIA and the remaining non voters voting for animask.
Kinda hoped imuffin would've been around more for Day 1 since this was a critical day in general.
It'd create a 4/4 split unless you mean mashley gets lynched based on the times people voted.
Rules wrote:
In the event of a draw, the player who had the most votes before being tied will be lynched.
Well, it's either Mashley or animask at this point. Unless iMuffin pops up in the next few hours, it's gonna be Mashley.rust45 wrote:
I'm not getting that gut feeling that other people are having for Mashley, and I still think animask is a confused townie, so I think I may just hold back my vote for today unless something convinces me to vote for one of them. I could vote for someone else but I figure it'd probably be useless.
Can't wait to see what Mashley has to say in the morning, xD
Holy shit 3 pages of giantwallsoftext.
I'll try to catch up, hold on.
I'll try to catch up, hold on.
(I'm sorry if this post won't contain much content, I'll just say whatever I have in mind)
Okay so, based on how it looks like so far, it's either Mashley or animask who's gonna get lynched.
Mashley's on the lead on votes, however, some are still waiting for his opinions on this
and if everyone (or most) are convinced, all non-voters will not have Mashley lynched and will vote animask instead.
I want to vote Mashley too since I'm kinda suspicious of him, but I want to hear his word about this too.
I'm still not too sure about animask, he still looks like townie to me :/
Okay so, based on how it looks like so far, it's either Mashley or animask who's gonna get lynched.
Mashley's on the lead on votes, however, some are still waiting for his opinions on this
and if everyone (or most) are convinced, all non-voters will not have Mashley lynched and will vote animask instead.
I want to vote Mashley too since I'm kinda suspicious of him, but I want to hear his word about this too.
I'm still not too sure about animask, he still looks like townie to me :/
Well I'm about to be lynched and there's really not much I can do. I can't shake the reason people are voting for me, because it's all baseless gut feeling. We'll you're going to regret it if you lynch me today because I'm the cop. I hope there's a Doctor in this game or I'm dead already. >_<
Yikes, maybe taking ph0x's word isn't always the best thing to do in mafia...but I dunno about bmin's word either.
It split so evenly last night that coming up with a third option for a lynch didn't seem to justify for me.
But if you're cop there's only a 50% chance that one of us is the doctor due to the way the game is set up.
A terrible way Day 1 is going to end unless like you said Mashley, some sort of miracle happens.
It split so evenly last night that coming up with a third option for a lynch didn't seem to justify for me.
But if you're cop there's only a 50% chance that one of us is the doctor due to the way the game is set up.
A terrible way Day 1 is going to end unless like you said Mashley, some sort of miracle happens.
Yeah I'm dead unless the 3 people who haven't voted show up in the next hour and a half and vote for animask, which I can't really see happening. Gj bandwagoning someone before they get a chance to defend themselves guys.
I'll vote for animask if nobody counter claims.
Topic Starter
Searching for a replacement for imuffin.
However, day 1 will not be extended unless animask has 4 votes by deadline.
Votes will not be reset regardless of what happens.
However, day 1 will not be extended unless animask has 4 votes by deadline.
Votes will not be reset regardless of what happens.
vote: animask
Told you miracles can happen.
If imuffin's role is doctor...I have no idea if I can even properly predict this game.
If imuffin's role is doctor...I have no idea if I can even properly predict this game.
Topic Starter
Vote count (30 minutes to deadline):
Mashley (4) - animask, Ph0x, DxS, NoHItter
animask (3) - Mashley, bmin11, Quaraezha
Mashley (4) - animask, Ph0x, DxS, NoHItter
animask (3) - Mashley, bmin11, Quaraezha
Topic Starter
Time's up. Votecount above stands.
Everyone was arguing, it was chaos in that little room. "ANIMASK!" shouted some. "MASHLEY!" shouted others. Eventually, everyone but two voted. Being open about who they were voting for, it was obvious Mashley was going to be the one killed. The ballots were counted, and armed guards came in to escort mashley out.
"I'm a cop, you know. If you had given me enough time, I could've called HQ to confirm it."
"Yeah right, the others think you're guilty, and so you're guilty."
A few concerns were raised, and although people asked to be allowed another vote, they were denied.
An hour later, a voice comes through the door:
"It turns out Mashley wasn't lying. He really was a Cop. Be careful next time, we're going to get so much crap from HQ for this."
As you wonder why they didn't just call to check if Mashley was a cop, you realize you've just lost someone vital.
Mashley - Cop - Lynched day 1.
It is now Night 1. Please send all night actions in before two days from now.
Everyone was arguing, it was chaos in that little room. "ANIMASK!" shouted some. "MASHLEY!" shouted others. Eventually, everyone but two voted. Being open about who they were voting for, it was obvious Mashley was going to be the one killed. The ballots were counted, and armed guards came in to escort mashley out.
"I'm a cop, you know. If you had given me enough time, I could've called HQ to confirm it."
"Yeah right, the others think you're guilty, and so you're guilty."
A few concerns were raised, and although people asked to be allowed another vote, they were denied.
An hour later, a voice comes through the door:
"It turns out Mashley wasn't lying. He really was a Cop. Be careful next time, we're going to get so much crap from HQ for this."
As you wonder why they didn't just call to check if Mashley was a cop, you realize you've just lost someone vital.
Mashley - Cop - Lynched day 1.
It is now Night 1. Please send all night actions in before two days from now.
Topic Starter
0_o replaces imuffin, effective once he posts in the thread confirming.
Confirmed, now excuse me while I spend the rest of the day reading the most exhaustive Day 1 ever.
Topic Starter
You awake to see Ph0X nailed to the wall, with paper from the ballots stuffed in his mouth. They all read "Ph0X".
Ph0X - Townie - Killed Night 1.
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch. Deadline is 4 days from now.
Ph0X - Townie - Killed Night 1.
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch. Deadline is 4 days from now.
Ok, who the hell's the doctor here? Not saving Ph0X?
This is just fantastic.... we lost a cop and the master brain of this game D:
This is just fantastic.... we lost a cop and the master brain of this game D:
Well on the bright side...bmin11 wrote:
Ok, who the hell's the doctor here? Not saving Ph0X?
This is just fantastic.... we lost a cop and the master brain of this game D:
I'm here now.
Yay!
Seriously though, even though Ph0X probably would have been a valuable townie to have around I'm also somewhat relieved - he had most of the players wrapped around his finger so if he turned up mafia we would have been screwed. It's good to know he's a confirmed townie since we can now take all of his analysis at face value.
God dammit.
Gonna post thoughts/mistakes of day 1 soon.
Also, where is everyone?
Gonna post thoughts/mistakes of day 1 soon.
Also, where is everyone?
Also, no face puns 0_o...
It'd be cool if we at least had everyone active afterall so we don't have to have a split bandwagon like last time.
It'd be cool if we at least had everyone active afterall so we don't have to have a split bandwagon like last time.
*sigh* at least we traded iMuffin with 0_o (no offence to iMuffin. Just need someone who's more active at least...)
And again, Mashley's bandwagon did went too fast. 4 votes within an hour woah @_@
And again, Mashley's bandwagon did went too fast. 4 votes within an hour woah @_@
Mafia Roleblocker. There has to be one.
Wait, are you a doctor? and mafias got you on the first night already?!
More bad news orz.....
More bad news orz.....
FoS on Quaraezha and rust45.
Yeah I didn't see what you all saw in Mashley, I was a tad baffled at the bandwagon tbh (and this was before his role was revealed).
Anyway I read through the thread and here's my suspicion list, in order of most to least:
NoHItter
DxS
rust45
Quaraezha
bmin11
animask
0_o
Don't have time to go into details at the moment due to IRL business, but I thought I'd throw my two cents in for now. List is subject to change once I go through the thread more thoroughly.
Anyway I read through the thread and here's my suspicion list, in order of most to least:
NoHItter
DxS
rust45
Quaraezha
bmin11
animask
0_o
Don't have time to go into details at the moment due to IRL business, but I thought I'd throw my two cents in for now. List is subject to change once I go through the thread more thoroughly.
I want reasoning, animask
And FoS on NoHitter and DxS for the vote against Mashley. You guys could've waited a bit longer on bringing the verdict down
I'm not going to FoS animask until someone counter-claims him. Until then, he's my doctor
And FoS on NoHitter and DxS for the vote against Mashley. You guys could've waited a bit longer on bringing the verdict down
I'm not going to FoS animask until someone counter-claims him. Until then, he's my doctor
Current suspicion list after Day 1 since a lot happened overnight for me that I didn't expect and wasn't able to translate any ideas into any movement...
rust45 (Could've saved Mashley since you were the deciding tie vote but no. Also a general lack of reasoning on hinting for who to vote earlier in your last post as well. Seems generally suspicious as Mashley gave you enough time to come on and go for animask but you CHOSE NOT TOO)
0_o (I know you're willing to take on ph0x's role of looking at all the data and helping us get a general idea of the situation
but the person you replaced had just about nothing besides lack of activity so just high on my list for now)
Player Q (Bandwagoning? you seem to just follow the flow or in this case saving Mashley for no descriptive reasoning besides the split vote scenario)
bmin11 (That vote totaling and list of FoS's led me to think Mashley was mafia but I got confused when you went for animask and phox went for mashley intended split voting? so you can lure other players like me?)
NoHItter (I guess you're not as suspicious as I initially thought you were. May do a questionnaire type thing as well seeing as we have no obvious leads only "scenario" leads)
animask (Pulled a fast one on me now but hey, newbies learn you get the least of my suspicions)
Nothing on me since no one targeted me as I was writing this post a few minutes ago.
rust45 (Could've saved Mashley since you were the deciding tie vote but no. Also a general lack of reasoning on hinting for who to vote earlier in your last post as well. Seems generally suspicious as Mashley gave you enough time to come on and go for animask but you CHOSE NOT TOO)
0_o (I know you're willing to take on ph0x's role of looking at all the data and helping us get a general idea of the situation
but the person you replaced had just about nothing besides lack of activity so just high on my list for now)
Player Q (Bandwagoning? you seem to just follow the flow or in this case saving Mashley for no descriptive reasoning besides the split vote scenario)
bmin11 (That vote totaling and list of FoS's led me to think Mashley was mafia but I got confused when you went for animask and phox went for mashley intended split voting? so you can lure other players like me?)
NoHItter (I guess you're not as suspicious as I initially thought you were. May do a questionnaire type thing as well seeing as we have no obvious leads only "scenario" leads)
animask (Pulled a fast one on me now but hey, newbies learn you get the least of my suspicions)
Nothing on me since no one targeted me as I was writing this post a few minutes ago.
rust45 failed to use actual logic when accusing me.
He is probably mafia and expecting me to be the only other one with an aux role.
No other people were suspects for Doctor besides me.
I was right when I guessed Mashley had an aux role or was mafia~
Unfortunately, he was the cop.
Some Quy, you voted for me, but I think the only other person who is the most suspicious is the one who
didn't vote for me or Mashley.
EDIT: (I'm allowed to add to my posts, right?)
bmin11, you assumed I was the Doctor pretty quickly. You're using logic or you have been thinking that all this time.
I just assumed that someone would protect Ph0X (which you stated earlier) since he was the most useful. Anyone else could
have been the Doctor.
Roleclaim: Townie lulz
He is probably mafia and expecting me to be the only other one with an aux role.
No other people were suspects for Doctor besides me.
I was right when I guessed Mashley had an aux role or was mafia~
Unfortunately, he was the cop.
Some Quy, you voted for me, but I think the only other person who is the most suspicious is the one who
didn't vote for me or Mashley.
EDIT: (I'm allowed to add to my posts, right?)
bmin11, you assumed I was the Doctor pretty quickly. You're using logic or you have been thinking that all this time.
I just assumed that someone would protect Ph0X (which you stated earlier) since he was the most useful. Anyone else could
have been the Doctor.
Roleclaim: Townie lulz
bmin11 (That vote totaling and list of FoS's led me to think Mashley was mafia but I got confused when you went for animask and phox went for mashley intended split voting? so you can lure other players like me?)tbh I didn't saw it coming. I never thought of reversing my list and the outcomes of it ;_;....
Split voting? Yes, I admit. I just didn't want people to put the lynch into a closure (he had 4 votes at the moment D:)
And after reading DxS's post and the thread itself, Mashley did claimed cop before rust45 to post. This means, rust45 KNEW Mashley could have been a cop. I do agree that it could have been taken as a mafia's last struggle... but Mashley's post did not seem like a struggle, but just giving up his game. It would have been a hard decision for you, but you end up doing nothing
FoS on rust45 addition to my FoS list
Hmm? Mashley claimed cop 4 hours after rust's last post. I don't see any evidence that rust was aware of the cop claim... unless I'm missing something.bmin11 wrote:
And after reading DxS's post and the thread itself, Mashley did claimed cop before rust45 to post. This means, rust45 KNEW Mashley could have been a cop.
EDIT: I THINK rust is in the same timezone I am, so that would mean that Mashley claimed at 5:47 AM, and the game ended 10:18 AM, Sunday morning. I'd say there's a pretty good chance he was asleep throughout that time period.
bmin11, you assumed I was the Doctor pretty quickly. You're using logic or you have been thinking that all this time.
I just assumed that someone would protect Ph0X (which you stated earlier) since he was the most useful. Anyone else could
have been the Doctor.
You said "HAS to be one" and I thought you were pretty clear with the role blocker thing. I guess you were just assuming ._.;; I was also wating for a counter-claim, but no one yet have done it (maybe it's NoHitter or Q? They are sleeping at the moment so that could be why they couldn't role claim).animask wrote:
Mafia Roleblocker. There has to be one.
By the way, don't claim to be a doctor at the moment. I want to ask LS if the Role Blocker would get informed if they role blocked successfully. If that's the case and you (doctor) tried to save Ph0X, claim it now so we can have a confirmed townie at least.
MOD: Does the Role Blocker gets informed if they role blocked successfully?
*puff* great, I was day dreaming I guess orz..... Face palm for me and I unFoS rust450_o wrote:
Hmm? Mashley claimed cop 4 hours after rust's last post. I don't see any evidence that rust was aware of the cop claim... unless I'm missing something.bmin11 wrote:
And after reading DxS's post and the thread itself, Mashley did claimed cop before rust45 to post. This means, rust45 KNEW Mashley could have been a cop.
EDIT: I THINK rust is in the same timezone I am, so that would mean that Mashley claimed at 5:47 AM, and the game ended 10:18 AM, Sunday morning. I'd say there's a pretty good chance he was asleep throughout that time period.
Sorry guys still struggling with the timezones here...
So rust would be...3 hours ahead of me then...
Anyways, gonna wait til everyone puts in input before moving onto conclusions as that's how we accidentally lynched mashley after all.
So rust would be...3 hours ahead of me then...
Anyways, gonna wait til everyone puts in input before moving onto conclusions as that's how we accidentally lynched mashley after all.
I'm actually 2 hours behind you, but your point is still true, I was asleep. When I looked through the thread when I woke up I told myself I would've voted on animask given the chance. Although I still think animask is a townie I would've done it for the obvious reasons.0_o wrote:
Hmm? Mashley claimed cop 4 hours after rust's last post. I don't see any evidence that rust was aware of the cop claim... unless I'm missing something.bmin11 wrote:
And after reading DxS's post and the thread itself, Mashley did claimed cop before rust45 to post. This means, rust45 KNEW Mashley could have been a cop.
EDIT: I THINK rust is in the same timezone I am, so that would mean that Mashley claimed at 5:47 AM, and the game ended 10:18 AM, Sunday morning. I'd say there's a pretty good chance he was asleep throughout that time period.
Anyway, I don't get why everyone is jumping on me for not making a vote, what's happened has happened and with Mashley claiming cop, there was a good chance he would've been killed or roleblocked (more likely the latter) at night.
I think it's a better idea to look at who would kill Ph0x, and why. Looking at his last suspicious list, NoHitter and I are on there. If I was mafia, I wouldn't even kill him, as when I'm mafia, I go for those who did participate as much as others, that way I get get someone who was slowing down the game, and possibly an aux role who was trying to go noticed. Ph0x did not meet my conditions for a night 1 kill.
However I want to hear what NoHitter has to say about the Night kill
I should have apologized. I made a mistake on you and I apologize, rust45.
Since the cop is dead, mafia wouldn't worry if townies get their extra time (no deaths from no lynch) ...
From townies side (us), we need people who will participate since without a cop, only thing we have is someone with an eye and a wit (Ph0X was one with these aspects...). Ph0X's death is a huge gain for mafia and they took the risk of being blocked by the doctor.
Don't we participate to "find out the mafia"? It would be better for the mafia if no one talks and gets no lynch (or try to bandwagon someone)rust45 wrote:
I think it's a better idea to look at who would kill Ph0x, and why. Looking at his last suspicious list, NoHitter and I are on there. If I was mafia, I wouldn't even kill him, as when I'm mafia, I go for those who did participate as much as others, that way I get get someone who was slowing down the game, and possibly an aux role who was trying to go noticed. Ph0x did not meet my conditions for a night 1 kill.
Since the cop is dead, mafia wouldn't worry if townies get their extra time (no deaths from no lynch) ...
From townies side (us), we need people who will participate since without a cop, only thing we have is someone with an eye and a wit (Ph0X was one with these aspects...). Ph0X's death is a huge gain for mafia and they took the risk of being blocked by the doctor.
Actually it's possible that they knew there wasn't a doctor. If there are only 2 goons (ie. no roleblocker) then they would have known that there's only one aux role in the game (who just died).bmin11 wrote:
Ph0X's death is a huge gain for mafia and they took the risk of being blocked by the doctor.
Also I should probably address this:
I'll be as active as I can, but I don't want to have the expectation of being a Ph0X replacement here. I'll pick out things as I see them, but don't expect me to do constant post-by-post analyses of the entire game. Not my style~DeathxShinigami wrote:
0_o (I know you're willing to take on ph0x's role of looking at all the data and helping us get a general idea of the situation [...]
/me Looks through the role list0_o wrote:
Actually it's possible that they know there isn't a doctor. If there are only 2 goons (ie. no roleblocker) then they would know that there's only one aux role in the game (who just died).bmin11 wrote:
Ph0X's death is a huge gain for mafia and they took the risk of being blocked by the doctor.
• 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies.oh wow, you are right. If there are two goons, only one aux role is give to townies. Thanks
• 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Doctor, 6 Vanilla Townies.
Hmm...bmin, is it just me or are you posting a lot just to add in more info? or just really chatty now that ph0x is gone?
Also, +1 suspicion on animask and one less on 0_o
Sorry for assuming you'd act like ph0x but he really surprised us at day 1.
Also, +1 suspicion on animask and one less on 0_o
Sorry for assuming you'd act like ph0x but he really surprised us at day 1.
I'm merely posting anything that comes into my head right now. Theories, I guess and on day 1, I couldn't really add and infoes because a lot of times were spent around animask, DxS (you), Mashley, and Ph0X talking eachother.DxS wrote:
Hmm...bmin, is it just me or are you posting a lot just to add in more info? or just really chatty now that ph0x is gone?
Day 2 is a bit different. We now know we had a cop and we lost him (and also we lost a great townie). We now can think of how mafia is moving and some possible roles on this game. (even though I have no clue at the moment. Some would at least). Also, an important event occured as well, which I mean the lynch last day. I couldn't get much info for myself (couldn't review it deaply yet), but I believe it could come in handy.
bmin11, asking if roleblocker gets informed. Suspicious, but seems innocent.
DxS is still suspicious of me. He thinks I'm mafia after clearly stating that I'm not.
Why so suspicious? Is it because I'm right that you are mafia?
0_o the replacement. I get the feeling DxS could be working with you. (If I'm right I'll give myself 2 points for guessing right.)
[Currently at +1 points for guessing Mashley, sorta.]
Then again, I get the feeling bmin11 has the same suspicions or that he is mafia.
He's right to assume that I'm not mafia, but as a Doctor, no.
Q, who is still lurking, could possibly be mafia. Do something so I can find out! D:
NoHItter, since you aren't really accusing people, the suspicion on you is getting low. Being defensive.
Mashley got lynched, because I thought he was hiding something. I was right, but he wasn't mafia. (The odds were on my side I think.)
FoS NoHItter and DxS and Quy
EDIT: Removing FoS on rust45 (for now).
DxS is still suspicious of me. He thinks I'm mafia after clearly stating that I'm not.
Why so suspicious? Is it because I'm right that you are mafia?
0_o the replacement. I get the feeling DxS could be working with you. (If I'm right I'll give myself 2 points for guessing right.)
[Currently at +1 points for guessing Mashley, sorta.]
Then again, I get the feeling bmin11 has the same suspicions or that he is mafia.
He's right to assume that I'm not mafia, but as a Doctor, no.
Q, who is still lurking, could possibly be mafia. Do something so I can find out! D:
NoHItter, since you aren't really accusing people, the suspicion on you is getting low. Being defensive.
Mashley got lynched, because I thought he was hiding something. I was right, but he wasn't mafia. (The odds were on my side I think.)
FoS NoHItter and DxS and Quy
EDIT: Removing FoS on rust45 (for now).
^you forgot rust and you're down 2 points
You awake to see Ph0X nailed to the wall, with paper from the ballots stuffed in his mouth. They all read "Ph0X".Just realized. Dats sexy.
Because if they DO get informed and they got a positive from it, our doctor is no better then a townie. We can at least have a confirmed townie by asking the doctor to claim it's role if the doctor tried to protect Ph0X and failed (failed will give mafia a positive block result, thus they know who's the doctor).animask wrote:
bmin11, asking if roleblocker gets informed. Suspicious, but seems innocent.
As I answered before, I was assuming you were the doctor since you said...animask wrote:
He's right to assume that I'm not mafia, but as a Doctor, no.
and only the doctor (or the role blocker IF they gets informed) would be sure of this. You sounded pretty sure of it when you said "has to be one". If I'm taking your posts to directly and not seeing your hidden thoughts (ex: "I was only assuming even though I said HAS to"), please make it clear for me ._.;;animask wrote:
Mafia Roleblocker. There has to be one.
Did I make it clear for you?
animask, I'm still having a hard time understanding you so I'll question by answering your two questions first
It's not about you being mafia per se, it's about seeming suspicious. You beat around the bush when you're not directly quoting actions which makes me curious if it's a tactic or just a way of playing, it's annoying though and I know mashley said it was and look at him.
Can you at least tell me straight up if this is how you play? Cause it's really annoying me to animask.
It's not about you being mafia per se, it's about seeming suspicious. You beat around the bush when you're not directly quoting actions which makes me curious if it's a tactic or just a way of playing, it's annoying though and I know mashley said it was and look at him.
Can you at least tell me straight up if this is how you play? Cause it's really annoying me to animask.
How else would I play? So yeah, this is how I play, I guess.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Can you at least tell me straight up if this is how you play? Cause it's really annoying me to animask.
Cool or chill?animask wrote:
How else would I play? So yeah, this is how I play, I guess.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Can you at least tell me straight up if this is how you play? Cause it's really annoying me to animask.
What the hell...well whatever don't you at least want to figure what's going on in this situation without making random stabs at people?
tl;dr
Thanks anyways animask, you're "style of playing" is all I have for reasons why you're mafia but if you randomly show some sort of suspicion or "hard to understand" evidence again you're only making it more confusing than it should be.
Thanks anyways animask, you're "style of playing" is all I have for reasons why you're mafia but if you randomly show some sort of suspicion or "hard to understand" evidence again you're only making it more confusing than it should be.
Interesting. Why so? (as always, I want reasoning)animask wrote:
0_o the replacement. I get the feeling DxS could be working with you. (If I'm right I'll give myself 2 points for guessing right.)
DxS could be the normal mafia goon and 0_o could be the roleblocker/mafia.bmin11 wrote:
Interesting. Why so? (as always, I want reasoning)animask wrote:
0_o the replacement. I get the feeling DxS could be working with you. (If I'm right I'll give myself 2 points for guessing right.)
At first I suspected Quy, but if iMuffin was active, he would try to find out the cop/doctor.
Originally, I also suspected Quy, because of how he voted for me and wanted me to claim. (He wanted someone to counter-claim as Cop in order to protect Mashley who he thought was cop).
BUT, DxS seems to be focusing on accusations and sus(s). He isn't providing much to his accusations, because he is
trying to copy me in some ways. That might be why he wants to know my play style. He notices that I "beat around the bush when you're not directly quoting actions". The roleblocker/mafia could be the lurker in order to be safe from sus(s). Lots of other people fit this category. 0_o was just a guess, because of the lurking he may be doing. DxS probably thinks that I'm a threat in some way (to both mafia and townie) due to my reckless newbie playing, but he is using that to eliminate any suspicions on him. There should be a lower chance of there being an aux role, so he seems like a good pick.
At first, Ph0X accused you and DxS of being mafia buddies, but later on discovered that wasn't very likely. For now, lurkers and DxS seem to be a good match. Those are my thoughts of the FoS.
EDIT: Quaraezha = Quy
Did I add the part where I think DxS is trying to make people think there is a DxS and animask mafia pairing?
For the record, I am currently studying for an exam tomorrow morning. I've still been keeping track of the thread via email updates since I'm obsessive like that, but that's why you may be seeing me browsing without comment for the next few hours or so.
You ever thought about if I was actually town animask? It's nice reasoning you brought up about me buddying up but it just doesn't match up to like what ph0x was saying in Day 1.
About the whole "bluff attack on bmin" ph0x mentioned that there could be buddying but later stated @ that the attack which seemed more "friend based" rather than intentional cause it could be based on what "the friendship is like outside of the game"
I stated that I was testing bmin's friendship to make sure he wouldn't try to do anything suspicious but apparently you guys still don't believe it so fine. (Guess you want bmin to continue supporting the game while I feel like shit for bluffing?)
Have you ever thought about friends vs. roles animask?
And while you keep insisting to us I'm mafia. I'm only trying to bring in better evidence to why I'm not. (whether not this is part of your plan after all who knows)
I do like the activity though which is starting to seem less newbie and more thoughtful. But it's still silly to only think of one conclusion when there could be others.
About the whole "bluff attack on bmin" ph0x mentioned that there could be buddying but later stated @ that the attack which seemed more "friend based" rather than intentional cause it could be based on what "the friendship is like outside of the game"
I stated that I was testing bmin's friendship to make sure he wouldn't try to do anything suspicious but apparently you guys still don't believe it so fine. (Guess you want bmin to continue supporting the game while I feel like shit for bluffing?)
Have you ever thought about friends vs. roles animask?
And while you keep insisting to us I'm mafia. I'm only trying to bring in better evidence to why I'm not. (whether not this is part of your plan after all who knows)
I do like the activity though which is starting to seem less newbie and more thoughtful. But it's still silly to only think of one conclusion when there could be others.
Huh? *confused*animask wrote:
At first I suspected Quy, but if iMuffin was active, he would try to find out the cop/doctor.
He probably wanted to have a safe vote. By having no counter-claims, Mashley would be very likely to be a cop. If there WAS a cop and counter-claimed? Mashley would be confirmed mafia. Even if he wasn't, we could always just lynch the person to counter-claimed (no townie wants to take the risk of counter-claiming). The cop could have chosen to not claim even knowing that guy is a mafia and this is would be the best option at that moment (Mashley had the most vote and rust was sleeping). Sadly, that wasn't the case.animask wrote:
Originally, I also suspected Quy, because of how he voted for me and wanted me to claim. (He wanted someone to counter-claim as Cop in order to protect Mashley who he thought was cop).
Q wasn't doing the wrong thing, he just wasn't sure if he should vote Mashley or not
I'm not sure how mafia would want to copy someones playing style. Any thoughts on why?animask wrote:
BUT, DxS seems to be focusing on accusations and sus(s). He isn't providing much to his accusations, because he is
trying to copy me in some ways. That might be why he wants to know my play style. He notices that I "beat around the bush when you're not directly quoting actions".
and FoSing 0_o for his inactivity is a bit too cruel. He (obviously) could've done nothing on day 1 and we are in a quite early stage of day 2.
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No.bmin11 wrote:
MOD: Does the Role Blocker gets informed if they role blocked successfully?
Thank youLadySuburu wrote:
No.bmin11 wrote:
MOD: Does the Role Blocker gets informed if they role blocked successfully?
animask wrote:
DxS probably thinks that I'm a threat in some way (to both mafia and townie) due to my reckless newbie playing, but he is using that to eliminate any suspicions on him.
I don't think DxS is on to you, animaskDxS wrote:
animask (Pulled a fast one on me now but hey, newbies learn you get the least of my suspicions)
EDIT: I think he's more on a annoyed stage due to your arguements. I'm gonna list your reasoning out for why you think DxS is a mafia
1. DxS is aggressive
2. DxS does not provide much evidence on suspicion
3. DxS is trying to copy animasks opinion + suspicion list + play style
4. DxS seems to be buddying with lurkers
5. DxS is accusing animask so himself will look clean
I disagree on 1 (for bad reasoning), 3 (not sure what he would get from it), 5 (he wasn't accusing you. Now he is because of your aggressiveness towards him)
I may be understanding this differently, but you guys seem to be talking pointlessly ._.;; I'm really confused with this thread right now (oh how I wish if Ph0X was here with his analyzed post)