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Hot take: Playing pp farm maps is vital to improving as a player
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bambinex wrote:
finally someone with a brain
mqwilliamscom wrote:
bambinex wrote:
finally someone with a brain
weirdMrSparklepants wrote:
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Yeah nah
PP farming makes you good at farming.
Untill it doesnt
PP farming makes you good at farming.
Untill it doesnt
wdym weirdFxjlk wrote:
Yeah nah
PP farming makes you good at farming.
Untill it doesnt
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Now don't get me wrong, playing only pp farm maps can lead you to missing important step and developing your skillset. However, if you combine pp farm along with maps that tackle other areas (i.e, streams, tech, low/high AR, stamina, etc), then you become a much better rounded player. And it's for one reason:Fxjlk wrote:
Yeah nah
PP farming makes you good at farming.
Untill it doesnt
farming is always with higher ar. so idk what you are trying to say but you dont need to build every skills when you start imomqwilliamscom wrote:
Now don't get me wrong, playing only pp farm maps can lead you to missing important step and developing your skillset. However, if you combine pp farm along with maps that tackle other areas (i.e, streams, tech, low/high AR, stamina, etc), then you become a much better rounded player. And it's for one reason:Fxjlk wrote:
Yeah nah
PP farming makes you good at farming.
Untill it doesnt
you can play aim and jump maps without farming though, just do it however you like, nothing wrong with farming if you enjoy it
One day when you know, you will knowkujubuo wrote:
wdym weird
Or you could just skip the farming part and just get good? PP comes naturally with a high skill level. We might have a different view of what farming is but for me farming is specifically playing maps that are overweighted and I don't see the point honestly.mqwilliamscom wrote:
Now don't get me wrong, playing only pp farm maps can lead you to missing important step and developing your skillset. However, if you combine pp farm along with maps that tackle other areas (i.e, streams, tech, low/high AR, stamina, etc), then you become a much better rounded player.
I personally wouldn't say farm maps are vital. Rather just playing more aim intensive maps would help train the skill.
Fxjlk wrote:
Or you could just skip the farming part and just get good? PP comes naturally with a high skill level. We might have a different view of what farming is but for me farming is specifically playing maps that are overweighted and I don't see the point honestly.
^[Funko] wrote:
I personally wouldn't say farm maps are vital. Rather just playing more aim intensive maps would help train the skill.
i dont really farm everyday but i can say that there is lots of top players got to their place by just farming. They only farmedFxjlk wrote:
One day when you know, you will knowkujubuo wrote:
wdym weird
And theres also many who got high rank from not farming.kujubuo wrote:
i dont really farm everyday but i can say that there is lots of top players got to their place by just farming. They only farmed
Osu is a lot like music. There are some musicians who get amazing despite learning the wrong way. Though there is an even greater number who stay mediocre because they don't practice correctly to reach their goals
That doesn't mean farming is an incorrect way of doing things lol. You can learn to play farm maps well and then use those skills to get better at other aspects of the game. That's what I did when I used to be a top player and quite a few of my old friends did the same too.Fxjlk wrote:
And theres also many who got high rank from not farming.
Osu is a lot like music. There are some musicians who get amazing despite learning the wrong way. Though there is an even greater number who stay mediocre because they don't practice correctly to reach their goals
A real wrong way of getting good at the game is only going for passes all day and randomly getting good like that. Is it possible? Probably but very few people (if any) have pulled it off.
Tbh how you go for passes is also important. Like low misscount passes,just only passes etc. You can pretty sure improve by going for low misscount passesAlmost wrote:
That doesn't mean farming is an incorrect way of doing things lol. You can learn to play farm maps well and then use those skills to get better at other aspects of the game. That's what I did when I used to be a top player and quite a few of my old friends did the same too.Fxjlk wrote:
And theres also many who got high rank from not farming.
Osu is a lot like music. There are some musicians who get amazing despite learning the wrong way. Though there is an even greater number who stay mediocre because they don't practice correctly to reach their goals
A real wrong way of getting good at the game is only going for passes all day and randomly getting good like that. Is it possible? Probably but very few people (if any) have pulled it off.
Playing farm isnt bad in itself. The problem is when you only play to farm and only play hard farm maps to improve. Farm maps need a specific structure and this leaves holes in skillsets that don't really matter for pp.Almost wrote:
That doesn't mean farming is an incorrect way of doing things lol. You can learn to play farm maps well and then use those skills to get better at other aspects of the game. That's what I did when I used to be a top player and quite a few of my old friends did the same too.
Playing farm isnt vital to improving either, just like how tech maps arnt vital for improving. The fundamental skillsets (aim, finger control, stamina, reading etc) can be improved in many ways.
I can agree with that, the only thing I disagree with is when you insinuated that getting good by playing farm maps is wrong. Yeah you don't have to play farm maps but it's a path you can go down that's not going to be bad for you or hinder your progress.Fxjlk wrote:
Playing farm isnt bad in itself. The problem is when you only play to farm and only play hard farm maps to improve. Farm maps need a specific structure and this leaves holes in skillsets that don't really matter for pp.
Playing farm isnt vital to improving either, just like how tech maps arnt vital for improving. The fundamental skillsets (aim, finger control, stamina, reading etc) can be improved in many ways.
I see. I was replying to kujubuo who said top players could get really good from only farming. My reply referred to farming all the time as the "wrong way" but I wasnt explicit about that.Almost wrote:
I can agree with that, the only thing I disagree with is when you insinuated that getting good by playing farm maps is wrong. Yeah you don't have to play farm maps but it's a path you can go down that's not going to be bad for you or hinder your progress.
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Fxjlk wrote:
I see. I was replying to kujubuo who said top players could get really good from only farming. My reply referred to farming all the time as the "wrong way" but I wasnt explicit about that.Almost wrote:
I can agree with that, the only thing I disagree with is when you insinuated that getting good by playing farm maps is wrong. Yeah you don't have to play farm maps but it's a path you can go down that's not going to be bad for you or hinder your progress.
Good point. Also after further thinking playing farm maps is more of a possible road you can go down rather than a necessary road you have to go down as my initial post dictates.
idk, i played a lot of farm maps and i'm still bad. 
Personally for me, i use farm maps to both measure how good i am and also get some pp along the way,
I would play a farm map that is hard at the time/out of comfort zone and submit a score, then, i focused on improving my skills and all, after that, i played the farm map again and could easily do it and makes me happy that i have improved, then proceed to farm more maps until the cycle repeats again (focus improving skills after that, farm, repeat)
I would play a farm map that is hard at the time/out of comfort zone and submit a score, then, i focused on improving my skills and all, after that, i played the farm map again and could easily do it and makes me happy that i have improved, then proceed to farm more maps until the cycle repeats again (focus improving skills after that, farm, repeat)
I think your issue is that you are used to lower bpms. So higher stars require higher bpm and you suck at that probablyJuuuuuuuuul wrote:
idk, i played a lot of farm maps and i'm still bad.
It definitely works. Just look at Lifelines "Most Played". You can easily get good by just playing PP all day every day. I'd argue it's a really good idea since it falls into the 80/20 rule.
Why spend months trying to learn Scarlet Rose when most of the skillset required for that map doesn't transfer to most maps today?
Why spend months trying to learn Scarlet Rose when most of the skillset required for that map doesn't transfer to most maps today?
Depends what you're farming really
osu! player discovers that practicing a skillset makes them better at it.
Is that a National Geographic Documentation? I'd watch that tbhAnemic Witch wrote:
osu! player discovers that practicing a skillset makes them better at it.
It's probably streamed on twitch lolLonelyChimo wrote:
Is that a National Geographic Documentation? I'd watch that tbhAnemic Witch wrote:
osu! player discovers that practicing a skillset makes them better at it.