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Again, pp doesn't accumulate, the play was worth 24pp but you probably already have much better plays wich are worth more so your total rank/pp didn't really get affected.zzSlayer wrote:
my problem was that it's the first time i cleared it with mods (newly downloaded song) and in history it said 24pp but it did not add to my overall pp. i cant understand this. sry
Right now a lot of people are very active in this game, so losing ranks is not you performing "not as good", it's simply other people playing at the same time as you and getting more performance points to their profile. If you are playing after a very long break and you'll be active, soon enough you'll see yourself getting a fair amount of ranks. Don't worry about it and have fun, with patience you'll see situation changingMidwayLemur3 wrote:
I get so tight when I lose hundreds of rankings for fc'ing a 3.3 star beatmap. HOWEVER, if I play a 3.5 map and get a B on it, I'll get a better result from it!!
Imma go back grinding and crying lol
same here I just went up over 100k in ranks by playing a map.Messiah_ wrote:
so I uh just went up 30k ranks after playing a map, (which by the way isn't any of my top plays) I'm assuming pp rework is here?
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Messiah_ wrote:
so I uh just went up 30k ranks after playing a map, (which by the way isn't any of my top plays) I'm assuming pp rework is here?
Please be aware that there currently are major changes to the system in process. Read more in the related news article: home/news/2021-01-14-performance-points-updatesQneto wrote:
same here I just went up over 100k in ranks by playing a map.Messiah_ wrote:
so I uh just went up 30k ranks after playing a map, (which by the way isn't any of my top plays) I'm assuming pp rework is here?
They dont do this because they dont have someone that can make an ai for this, but if they did it would most likley take a little while cause of how many ranked maps there are so many ranked maps.FourCan wrote:
Since nowadays, more tournaments are being hosted across different ranges. why not design an ai or some sort of compiler that would notice the similarities between the maps and difficulties of a pool to give pp according to the style of mapping that the maps are in. for example some 5.3* tech maps are about in equivalent difficulty as to those aim maps at 5.7 but they give way less pp. maybe if we could set maps with difficulties that are according to their tournament counterparts it would give a slightly more accurate representation of how much pp a map should deserve and reflect its difficulty slightly more accurately.
i bet that would work really well on mania thaniuzu wrote:
it would most likley take a little while cause of how many ranked maps there are so many ranked maps.
I went from 1.1 mil to 700k from the rework lol. Playing the map just updates all your stats post-rework and adjusts all your top playsQneto wrote:
same here I just went up over 100k in ranks by playing a map.Messiah_ wrote:
so I uh just went up 30k ranks after playing a map, (which by the way isn't any of my top plays) I'm assuming pp rework is here?
i joined after pp rework so i have no clue how it was before the rework.qtplutoh wrote:
Are people still talking about the rework pp gain & loss? It happened in like January so by now all of you should've at least played 1 game since then. Maybe not, but if I remember right when the rework happened I initially dropped 80k ranks then gained like 180k the next day and it took me to 500k. Now 2 months later im at 160k hehe im a dirty pp farmer
edit:hehe i was post 2700
my best play is gone because I played the map again and got less pp.Tom94 wrote:
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This is one of the thing osu fails to explain to newcomers/beginners. People usually download this for fun or from recommendation, as I did, and they just play maps without even knowing anything about performance points (pp) and star ratings until they reach mid 6-digit. I too, just played without knowing anything about pp until one of my friends who play osu told me about it.Ro3B1E wrote:
I don't really know how it is measured because I get a B on one of the hardest levels I've ever completed and it gives me nothing, but then I get an A on some 2* level and it gives me 4 pp. so i think that the system should be explained more
that is so useful to know thank you! ill keep in mind getting the higher combo but what are jumps and streams?purplemint wrote:
This is one of the thing osu fails to explain to newcomers/beginners. People usually download this for fun or from recommendation, as I did, and they just play maps without even knowing anything about performance points (pp) and star ratings until they reach mid 6-digit. I too, just played without knowing anything about pp until one of my friends who play osu told me about it.Ro3B1E wrote:
I don't really know how it is measured because I get a B on one of the hardest levels I've ever completed and it gives me nothing, but then I get an A on some 2* level and it gives me 4 pp. so i think that the system should be explained more
So basically, pp is a reward system that is given for every ranked map you play (whether a map is ranked or not will be written in the map on the website). Higher pp is given for plays with 1. more jumps hit, 2. more streams hit, 3. better combo and 4. better accuracy. Also, the more misses you get, the less pp you will have at the end.
There are lots of other factors that will make the pp go down or up, but these are the main things.
So for example, if you hit a series of jumps without losing combo, depending on how hard it is to hit the jumps in a row, more pp will be rewarded. This also goes for streams; if you hit like 10 circles in a row that is right next to each other, it might increase the pp by a little (maybe like 1-5pp). However, if by any chance you miss or break your combo, you will start losing your pp, and how fast it goes down depends on how well you play after you lose the combo.
Another thing that will depend a lot will be accuracy. If a map gives like 100pp with 100% accuracy fc (full combo), it might give only like 85 pp if the accuracy is 95% (fc).
As long as you keep your combo, every 300 you get will increase your pp by any means. This is why if you lose your combo in the middle of a play, you will start losing combo until it eventually reaches an incredibly low amount of pp. Therefore, shorter maps are better/easier for getting pp, because a shorter map means less chance of losing combo frequently.
This also answers your question on the two plays you got. Even if you passed a really hard map with a grade of 'B', if you didn't keep your combo, accuracy, and did not hit any hard jumps, it is the reason why you got almost no pp at all. Same thing for your 2* play. Since you kept your accuracy high and combo for a while, you got more pp than the other play.
This isn't a detailed description of how pp works, there are lots of other things that will make the change in pp vary. Also it might be confusing but hope this answered your "pp question". Like I said, osu has to tell beginners about pp, they shouldn't expect people who are playing this game for fun to discover ranking and competition on their own.
"Jumps" refer to a series of circles that approach and are far from each other. After you hit a circle, then another circle comes and is pretty far away from the first circle, it would be described as a jump or jumps, depending on how many circles approach in a row. "Streams" is a way to describe a bunch of circles that approach in a row; most of the times it would look like circles laying side to side overlapping each other. If this is hard to understand, you might wanna search some youtube videos on jumps and streams. Also, you'll get to know much more about this game as you play more, so play in your free time! :-DRo3B1E wrote:
that is so useful to know thank you! ill keep in mind getting the higher combo but what are jumps and streams?purplemint wrote:
This is one of the thing osu fails to explain to newcomers/beginners. People usually download this for fun or from recommendation, as I did, and they just play maps without even knowing anything about performance points (pp) and star ratings until they reach mid 6-digit. I too, just played without knowing anything about pp until one of my friends who play osu told me about it.Ro3B1E wrote:
I don't really know how it is measured because I get a B on one of the hardest levels I've ever completed and it gives me nothing, but then I get an A on some 2* level and it gives me 4 pp. so i think that the system should be explained more
So basically, pp is a reward system that is given for every ranked map you play (whether a map is ranked or not will be written in the map on the website). Higher pp is given for plays with 1. more jumps hit, 2. more streams hit, 3. better combo and 4. better accuracy. Also, the more misses you get, the less pp you will have at the end.
There are lots of other factors that will make the pp go down or up, but these are the main things.
So for example, if you hit a series of jumps without losing combo, depending on how hard it is to hit the jumps in a row, more pp will be rewarded. This also goes for streams; if you hit like 10 circles in a row that is right next to each other, it might increase the pp by a little (maybe like 1-5pp). However, if by any chance you miss or break your combo, you will start losing your pp, and how fast it goes down depends on how well you play after you lose the combo.
Another thing that will depend a lot will be accuracy. If a map gives like 100pp with 100% accuracy fc (full combo), it might give only like 85 pp if the accuracy is 95% (fc).
As long as you keep your combo, every 300 you get will increase your pp by any means. This is why if you lose your combo in the middle of a play, you will start losing combo until it eventually reaches an incredibly low amount of pp. Therefore, shorter maps are better/easier for getting pp, because a shorter map means less chance of losing combo frequently.
This also answers your question on the two plays you got. Even if you passed a really hard map with a grade of 'B', if you didn't keep your combo, accuracy, and did not hit any hard jumps, it is the reason why you got almost no pp at all. Same thing for your 2* play. Since you kept your accuracy high and combo for a while, you got more pp than the other play.
This isn't a detailed description of how pp works, there are lots of other things that will make the change in pp vary. Also it might be confusing but hope this answered your "pp question". Like I said, osu has to tell beginners about pp, they shouldn't expect people who are playing this game for fun to discover ranking and competition on their own.
because of the way the pp system works, all of your plays are only worth a fraction of your top play. for example, if your top play is 100pp, than your #2 play will be worth 95 pp, your #3 will be worth 90pp, etc. this scale is not linear, so lower plays are worth significantly less than your other plays.Wolframio-74 wrote:
I asume a lot of people already asked this, so I apologize for that. ^^'
Well, I've been playing some songs where I get A or S, but when I go to my profile to chech my pp, I see that I have only gotten 1 or 2 per song, when I was supossed to get more. (I have to clarify that the song that I mean, have only been played by me, once).
For example, tthis song says that I'd give me 61 pp (I think), but I actually only got a small fraction of it.
Sorry for the Spanish in the image, btw.
[LS]PositoniX wrote:
because of the way the pp system works, all of your plays are only worth a fraction of your top play. for example, if your top play is 100pp, than your #2 play will be worth 95 pp, your #3 will be worth 90pp, etc. this scale is not linear, so lower plays are worth significantly less than your other plays.Wolframio-74 wrote:
I asume a lot of people already asked this, so I apologize for that. ^^'
Well, I've been playing some songs where I get A or S, but when I go to my profile to chech my pp, I see that I have only gotten 1 or 2 per song, when I was supossed to get more. (I have to clarify that the song that I mean, have only been played by me, once).
For example, tthis song says that I'd give me 61 pp (I think), but I actually only got a small fraction of it.
Sorry for the Spanish in the image, btw.
Oh, boy. First, I have to say that I'm not an experienced player, at all; but I can share what has worked with me so far.specxtical_ wrote:
Just a question because I'm quite new here, my top play is 45 pp. But that play was really lucky and I cannot pull it off again. Right now I struggle to even get 10 pp which I only get about 0.02 pp because I my pp gets weighted. How am I supposed to rank up and get pp?
There are already a lot of people who suggest that but never been what the dev wanted.Knorke75 wrote:
I dont know if anyone involved in programming pp even reads this, but I got an actual suggestion that might solve a lot of issues.
My basic idea is to split pp into multiple categorys and add those together to determine one's rank.There could also be scoreboards for each category.
Those categorys would be stuff like aim, streaming ability, consistency or pattern play (These are just suggestions, there are better ideas for sure). So at the end of any map, you get pp in every category fitted to the map. For a hard jump map for example, you would get a lot of "aim pp" but not much else. This systems would be weighted in each category and then added to the overall pp.
So the Classic DT Farmer with tons of 200"aim"pp plays can still get overall pp by playing easy stream maps (Under the assumption he didnt play streams before)
This systems would not just animate players to try other playstyles and get a wider skillset, it would also prevent a strong meta to evolve and put a kind of balance into the game.
I would really appreciate if I could get feedback so I know my effort wasnt for nothing and devs are completely unaware what I wrote.
Man, this was so long ago. 7 years! I feel like I joined in 2013 but I didn't.Tom94 wrote:
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more like made a mod that has called low ar. Ez lowers circle size (means actually making them huge ) and lowers od thats why you can never buff ez because the od and the circle size being low makes it get low pp158 wrote:
buff ez on harder maps buff ez on harder maps buff ez on harder maps buff ez on harder maps buff ez on harder maps buff ez on harder mapsTom94 wrote:
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Changes to the system are documented in the changelog.
seems like a skill issue get betterSniperBuddha wrote:
I don't like the changes that much right now, you may do a better score performance wise, and only because you have a worse acc you lose many places.
Don't play a rhythm game then.Robinmjt wrote:
idk if this is repetitive or not but please make it a little less acc based.
pp reworkInsanityonOsu wrote:
Got an FC, did another play and lost 2k ranks fml
Please read home/news/2021-11-09-performance-points-star-rating-updatesxNeco wrote:
why i lost 2k ranks???? i farmed 2 days ago and now is all away
pp reworkxNeco wrote:
why i lost 2k ranks???? i farmed 2 days ago and now is all away
lost 20k ranks by getting 99.44% from a beatmap. I wanna ask if it's related to that.- Marco - wrote:
Please read home/news/2021-11-09-performance-points-star-rating-updatesxNeco wrote:
why i lost 2k ranks???? i farmed 2 days ago and now is all away
it means your rank updated after setting that play, don't think pp changes have taken effect yet for us 6 digits but rankings havekarse wrote:
lost 20k ranks by getting 99.44% from a beatmap. I wanna ask if it's related to that.- Marco - wrote:
Please read home/news/2021-11-09-performance-points-star-rating-updatesxNeco wrote:
why i lost 2k ranks???? i farmed 2 days ago and now is all away
It's very good but I noticed that some maps were changed heavily! The loved map "deal with the devil" has an insane difficulty that used to be 4.7 but is now 6.1! Understandably, the map is quite hard but did it really have to go up by 2 stars in difficulty?Tom94 wrote:
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please leave your feedback for the Standard mode performance ranking here. Every suggestion is appreciated!
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pp reworkPoutinie wrote:
Hey, I’ve got a question that I want to figure out real quick. To start I’m Poutinie (321,215 LB) with 2002 PP (This may help to answer my question).
Yesterday I was playing like any other Osu! player would. At the time I was at 307,000 with 2160 ish PP. I usually play 3-4* with DT so rounds to 5-5.5*. I also play regular 5*. I was playing
beatmaps/2150734?mode=osu
I understand the basics about PP calculation and stuff. I also understand it is a 20 second song which I played with DT. What I am having trouble with is that after I got the FC, I went down 15,000 ranks, and lost 100 PP but gained 100 for the map itself. I’m not sure if it’s because of my rank or because of something else? I would like to know so I won’t run into these types of issues. I’m not asking for them back, but just for an answer to figure out why and what I should then avoid.
Thank you for your help
soonFrikandel wrote:
I found a couple of maps that feel like they are very much overweight now. When is the next pp update coming to correct them?