yeaKudosu wrote:
basically what mordred said
yeaKudosu wrote:
basically what mordred said
Rule is probably there so some group of mappers and BNs can't do The Funny and rank like 5 mapsets of the same song in a rowZelq wrote:
pretty much if any action has to be taken then I'd consider making no limitations of only one mapset of a song (the same version) since having multiple sets is not breaking anything and never highly understood why such rule had to be used at allCrissa wrote:
or hey why dont just remove the limitation and everyones happy
yes plsCrissa wrote:
or hey why dont just remove the limitation and everyones happy
also the 24hrs grace period sounds quite bleh considering many many maps get dqd for ultra minor stuff and then get reqfd instantly which is completely fine imo
I see your point but I do think it should still change imo, I don’t think 2 sets at the same time changes anything, maybe limit it so no more than 2 sets gets qual, i believe it would limit speedranks more if anything. Waiting 24 hours to requal isn’t the solutionAtaraksia wrote:
Rule is probably there so some group of mappers and BNs can't do The Funny and rank like 5 mapsets of the same song in a rowZelq wrote:
pretty much if any action has to be taken then I'd consider making no limitations of only one mapset of a song (the same version) since having multiple sets is not breaking anything and never highly understood why such rule had to be used at allCrissa wrote:
or hey why dont just remove the limitation and everyones happy
Pretty sure such event wouldn't take place but even if then I don't see any issue as long as each of the mapsets provides something from its ownAtaraksia wrote:
Rule is probably there so some group of mappers and BNs can't do The Funny and rank like 5 mapsets of the same song in a rowZelq wrote:
pretty much if any action has to be taken then I'd consider making no limitations of only one mapset of a song (the same version) since having multiple sets is not breaking anything and never highly understood why such rule had to be used at allCrissa wrote:
or hey why dont just remove the limitation and everyones happy
i don't see absolutely anything wrong with that if all mapsets have different things to offer, if anything the same amount of sets would get ranked anyways, just in a longer amount of time. you could add something to counter a case in wich this is the opposite, when 2 or more sets of a song in qualified don't add anything different from each other to the ranked sectionAtaraksia wrote:
Rule is probably there so some group of mappers and BNs can't do The Funny and rank like 5 mapsets of the same song in a rowZelq wrote:
pretty much if any action has to be taken then I'd consider making no limitations of only one mapset of a song (the same version) since having multiple sets is not breaking anything and never highly understood why such rule had to be used at allCrissa wrote:
or hey why dont just remove the limitation and everyones happy
This is kind of the point. maps that have already been qualified shouldn't need to worry about their slot in the ranking getting snipped when dqing for minor issues.Mordred wrote:
implementing a rule like that would make it nearly impossible to compete after the first qualification.
It is true that mappers and modders should check their maps thoroughly, but the issue comes when an issue appears that is subjective or something that is really hard to notice.Mordred wrote:
if the mapper (or the bn) cares about their set they will have checked it properly to avoid any "objective" mistakes such as missing hitsounds or bad timing.
you are correct that this occurs but this change would be benefiting people who just want to make their map the best it could be. The people who think like this cant be helped.Mordred wrote:
lots of people think qualified = ranked and will refuse to apply mods no matter the circumstances
its kind of irrelevant that this occurs outside of speedrank wars. my point was more based around people will mod/wait to mod maliciously so that they can get another map qualified in its place.Mordred wrote:
also happens outside of speedrank wars
the 24 hour number is just a rough draft of what the length should be. Ideally it should be long enough to where if the mapper (or modders) is sleeping or at work they still have enough time whenever they are done to get all the mods applied and re nomedCrissa wrote:
the 24hrs grace period sounds quite bleh
while i do agree with this, that is a seperate matter ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Crissa wrote:
or hey why dont just remove the limitation and everyones happy
basedNao Tomori wrote:
anime wars are hilarious i oppose the proposal
the point is so other mapps maps cant qualify during this time, the original mapset would be exempt from thisErisu wrote:
id rather not wait 24h to qual again for really minor issues/subjective things.
would be a much better alternative imoradar wrote:
my opinion would be to rather just remove the multiple qualified set rule/increase the limit to like 2-3 so that speedrank wars arent as cutthroat and people can just enjoy game
i was kinda missing this point which is very important huhthe point is so other mapps maps cant qualify during this time, the original mapset would be exempt from thisErisu wrote:
id rather not wait 24h to qual again for really minor issues/subjective things.
• Different beatmaps of similar versions of a song cannot be qualified in the same mode at the same time. Similar versions of a song include cuts, extensions, and simple covers.into
• Only 3 significantly different versions of a song may be qualified in the same mode at the same time. Significantly different versions include remixes, compilations, and mashups.
• Only 3 different versions of a song may be qualified in the same mode at the same time.honestly would be the simplest way but still not make it so mappers can qualify a ton of cuts and remixes. this change would also allow the full ver and cut ver (2 entirely different maps due to the massive changes) at the same time which i think most people can agree on wouldn't be a bad change.
then it would be bn's fault, not the mapper's one to qualify it in the first placeMaridiuS wrote:
I disagree with the OP because the meta on speedrank will be to try to qualify maps as soon as possible without doing a full check. BNs/mappers will then recheck if it ever gets disqualified to something that might have easily been found with a proper look. This will easily cause more unnecessary dqs and BNs acting dumb like they did a proper check and get like a 1/1 which most BNs can likely tank for their activity.
Ya also i can see this being easily punishable considering how bad the state of the set was when it first got qualified by just not checking the map properly or not doing so at allrealy0_ wrote:
then it would be bn's fault, not the mapper's one to qualify it in the first placeMaridiuS wrote:
I disagree with the OP because the meta on speedrank will be to try to qualify maps as soon as possible without doing a full check. BNs/mappers will then recheck if it ever gets disqualified to something that might have easily been found with a proper look. This will easily cause more unnecessary dqs and BNs acting dumb like they did a proper check and get like a 1/1 which most BNs can likely tank for their activity.
I agree, it just adds a delay to the inevitable, since mappers will still want their sets to be pushed towards the ranked section.Kyuunex wrote:
that rule about no same songs being qualified at the same time should not exist in my opinion
you canMcEndu wrote:
When multiple modes are taken into concern, the no two set rule looks even worse an idea.
Say mapper A qualifies a "#NULL!*Peta" which is a std set, and B who maps the same song in catch cannot rank it when A's set is still there...
PS. Where is the rule as written
Well yep misinterpretationrealy0_ wrote:
you canMcEndu wrote:
When multiple modes are taken into concern, the no two set rule looks even worse an idea.
Say mapper A qualifies a "#NULL!*Peta" which is a std set, and B who maps the same song in catch cannot rank it when A's set is still there...
PS. Where is the rule as written