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Acrith
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 12 grudnia 2011 at 16:07:39

Artist: Mami Kawada
Title: Sense
Source: Shakugan no Shana II
Tags: SnS Second Shakugan no Shana II Yuji Sakai Anime
BPM: 168
Filesize: 7209kb
Play Time: 04:02
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4,84 stars, 521 notes)
  2. Normal (3,19 stars, 261 notes)
Download: Mami Kawada - Sense
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Another Shakugan no Shana map. ;)

19.10 - Resurrect;
20.10 - Modded by CXu
23.10 - Some modding and helping by Amai:)
12.11 - Modded by Nitojgrem
14.11 - Modded by Laurier
01.12 - Modding by La Cataline:)
12.12 - Small modding by AmaiHachimitsu
xivonax
Star for Beginning :)
OnizukaEikichi
Beautiful song! Star :3
Gotori
nice song and nice map Acrith

star~
Bodzio
nice map
star~
some slider looks ugly try to make them better
Topic Starter
Acrith
Fixed D:
rEdo
@.@
thr1ve
You still need to work on it. :)
Galkan
Blue - suggestions. You don't need to apply them if you don't want.
Orange - issues. You should fix them.
Red - major issues. You must fix them.

[General]

Great song choice. [Hard] is very good so far, no silly patterns and other annoying things, it's readable and joy to play! Keep it up! But remember you need [Easy] (or getting [Normal] below 3 star rating) to get it ranked.

[Normal]

00:12:831 - (1,2,3) Those sliders are off the rhytm, please shorten those.
00:15:152 - (4,5) It'd be cool to have 4th slider here, don't you think?

[Hard]

Nothing's really wrong now, since you fixed some bugs I told you on IRC (for example irrhytmical slider in 01:48:009 and some design issues) so I have nothing more to complain about.

Good luck with this.
+Star
Piotrekol
/me can't mod but i like it :)
Keita_old
Star
all sugestions told on irc
CHANGE TO KAWADA MAMI BECAUSE RAGE! :)
Topic Starter
Acrith
Keita, I'll think about it :).
klubek
hi :)

[General]

good song! SHANAAAA~

[Hard]
just some suggestions
00:21:938 (2,3,4) - spacing
00:52:831~00:52:920 - ultra fast KIAI mode?
03:45:331 (5) - new combo

nice, star~*
Bass
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MLGnom
Yay another Shakugan no Shana map :3

~Stared
Zlew
Star and a bit of storyboard. Clear/fail animations from Stepmania NEX theme.
chungskale
hi~
some random modding :3

[general]
try to use some hitsound finish.

[normal]
00:28:545 (5) - fix the shape...you can use Ctrl+left click to add a white point, right click to delete one
nice diff.

[hard]
00:32:116 (5) - distance snap
00:51:045 (7) - dont use 1/8 suddenly, and it should be longer ,until 00:51:402

00:55:688 - here is a beat ,maybe add a note here? waiting too long makes your map feel boring~
00:58:545 - ^
01:07:116 - ^
01:11:759 - ^
02:07:116 - ^
02:33:366 - ^
03:27:116 - ^

01:21:224 (5) - one grid left
01:46:581 - can add a note
02:27:116 (3,4,5,6) - 3 and 4 exchange, 5 and 6 exchange
03:31:224 (6) - maybe change it into a slider which end at 03:31:759 ?

conclusion:
you need to work more :D
try to look at those ranked maps which made by experienced mappers
like siriru and angelhoney
wish these can help you! star for support :D
Nickelodeon_old
*star for Hard. ;) nice map
Optic
very nice map :)

~ star ~
Louis Cyphre
[General]
Source: Shakugan no Shana II
a preview point for this map is not set.
02:01:402 - start kiai mod here. and end here 02:38:545 in both difficulties.
your background size is incorrent, please cut/resize to 1024 x 768
any kind of SB element must not be over 800 x 600, so resize your SB files too.
Add Easy difficulty
Use same count and length of kiai mod.
Add hitsounds


[Normal]
Use same count of break points as in [Hard]
I wonder, why you add green line that discreases sliderspeed by x0.80 in same time with red line.
00:07:117 (1) - select slider --> select 3rd point of slider --> move it 1 grid left --> select 2nd point of slider move down by 1 grid. And shape looks better.
00:12:831 (1) - try to do same shape as previous sliders
00:14:259 (2) - make it linear. http://puu.sh/2DkN
01:19:081 (3) , 00:38:545 (1,2) - please do not use stacks of such type :/
01:19:795 (1) - better to start on white tick, it's kinda hard to start from red tick.
00:21:402 (1,2,3,4) - fix those stacks, it's hard to read, and it's really hard for newbie/middling players.
00:27:116 (1,2,3,4) - more fantasy, more style instead of boring stacks.
00:54:438 - ~? http://puu.sh/2DlD
00:58:902 (1) - um? http://puu.sh/2DlJ
01:00:152 (2) - linear, linear
01:12:831 - http://puu.sh/2DlT
256,48,72831,2,0,B|136:16|96:128,1,192
00:15:688 (1) - http://puu.sh/2Dm6
00:21:402 (1) - spacing
00:29:974 (6) - http://puu.sh/2Dmi
00:41:402 (1) - remove new combo
. . .

[Hard]

Nothing to mod here. Not like it's perfect, it's just too random, if i want to suggest something, i'd probably better remap this myself. Everything is random and feels overmapped.
First of all slider velocity/slider speed dose not fit with such calm voice, so i'd suggest to discrease it.
Second, please do not use such stuff 00:39:974 (1,2,3,7) - 00:51:045 (7) - 00:28:545 (1,2,3) They don't fit at all, and sounds odd too.
Third use patterns, i saw some of them on Normal difficulty, that piece of Normal diffiuclty is infinit. times better then this
Take a look (not steal) at some [Hard] diffiuclties with such bpm. judge yourself.

No Star.
Topic Starter
Acrith

Louis Cyphre wrote:

[General]
Source: Shakugan no Shana II - Fixed
a preview point for this map is not set. - Fixed
02:01:402 - start kiai mod here. and end here 02:38:545 in both difficulties. - Fixed
your background size is incorrent, please cut/resize to 1024 x 768 - For next general upload, don't have time
any kind of SB element must not be over 800 x 600, so resize your SB files too. - ^
Add Easy difficulty - I'll think about it
Use same count and length of kiai mod. - It'll be.
Add hitsounds - ^


[Normal]
Use same count of break points as in [Hard]
I wonder, why you add green line that discreases sliderspeed by x0.80 in same time with red line.
00:07:117 (1) - select slider --> select 3rd point of slider --> move it 1 grid left --> select 2nd point of slider move down by 1 grid. And shape looks better.
00:12:831 (1) - try to do same shape as previous sliders
00:14:259 (2) - make it linear. http://puu.sh/2DkN
01:19:081 (3) , 00:38:545 (1,2) - please do not use stacks of such type :/
01:19:795 (1) - better to start on white tick, it's kinda hard to start from red tick.
00:21:402 (1,2,3,4) - fix those stacks, it's hard to read, and it's really hard for newbie/middling players.
00:27:116 (1,2,3,4) - more fantasy, more style instead of boring stacks.
00:54:438 - ~? http://puu.sh/2DlD
00:58:902 (1) - um? http://puu.sh/2DlJ
01:00:152 (2) - linear, linear
01:12:831 - http://puu.sh/2DlT
256,48,72831,2,0,B|136:16|96:128,1,192
00:15:688 (1) - http://puu.sh/2Dm6
00:21:402 (1) - spacing
00:29:974 (6) - http://puu.sh/2Dmi
00:41:402 (1) - remove new combo
. . .

FIXED

[Hard]

Nothing to mod here. Not like it's perfect, it's just too random, if i want to suggest something, i'd probably better remap this myself. Everything is random and feels overmapped.
First of all slider velocity/slider speed dose not fit with such calm voice, so i'd suggest to discrease it.
Second, please do not use such stuff 00:39:974 (1,2,3,7) - 00:51:045 (7) - 00:28:545 (1,2,3) They don't fit at all, and sounds odd too.
Third use patterns, i saw some of them on Normal difficulty, that piece of Normal diffiuclty is infinit. times better then this
Take a look (not steal) at some [Hard] diffiuclties with such bpm. judge yourself.

No Star.
Thanks for modding:). Normal still in progress.
Kola
Star :3
Topic Starter
Acrith
Niormal completed.:)
kurohana
my mod :D

[General]

the bg size must be 1024x768 (because of the quality)
it looks better, if the diffs have a same start

[Normal]

00:42:402 (1) a bit confusing, maybe another location?
01:27:116 - slider starting with the voice, at 01:26:938
02:10:668 (3,5) set 3 at the same position as the end of 5
02:22:116 (1) remove new combo
03:45:688 (5) a bit confusing again
03:58:545 - finish?

[Hard]

meeep, one error, you can't use more than 3 different slider speeds
00:35:331 (7) clap
00:36:759 (3) ^
00:37:474 (6) ^
00:38:118 (1) ^
00:39:616 (6) ^
hmm, could take some time to list up all these claps... try to make some rhythm and set hitsounds, at every second white grip (in the same sequence as above)
00:42:116 (4) hm? slider must end at 00:42:295
00:42:563 (5) set at the red grip after
01:38:902 (1) confusing
01:46:581 (1) aaand 01:48:009 (1) set the first one note at the end of the black slider, looks better :D
01:53:902 (4,5) spacing >.<
02:00:509 (2,3,4,5) looks a bit confusing...
02:05:331 (3) spacing
03:46:866 (3,4,5,6)

i really like this song (mami kawada >////<) so i give you a star ~(^.^)~
don't forget to give kudosu~~~
Pereira006
hello~~

General

the wallpaper is 1224x767 you should make 1024x768 that is better
The mp3 is 427kbps you should re-encode mp3 to 192 kbps

[normal]

00:48:545 (3) - Grid 1 dowm?
01:45:688 (2) - Grid 1 up?
01:54:259 (2) - Grid 1 right?
02:22:116 (2) - Remove new combo?
02:49:259 (2) - the end slider is weird the 02:49:974 (1) - end slider maybe make better stack?

lol empty you should make hitsound imo

Hard

Ho my i like this diff i can't find wrong...
ho also again empty hitsound

Star!
Topic Starter
Acrith

kurohana wrote:

my mod :D

[General]

the bg size must be 1024x768 (because of the quality)
it looks better, if the diffs have a same start

[Normal]

00:42:402 (1) a bit confusing, maybe another location?
01:27:116 - slider starting with the voice, at 01:26:938
02:10:668 (3,5) set 3 at the same position as the end of 5
02:22:116 (1) remove new combo
03:45:688 (5) a bit confusing again
03:58:545 - finish?

[Hard]

meeep, one error, you can't use more than 3 different slider speeds
00:35:331 (7) clap
00:36:759 (3) ^
00:37:474 (6) ^
00:38:118 (1) ^
00:39:616 (6) ^
hmm, could take some time to list up all these claps... try to make some rhythm and set hitsounds, at every second white grip (in the same sequence as above)
00:42:116 (4) hm? slider must end at 00:42:295
00:42:563 (5) set at the red grip after
01:38:902 (1) confusing
01:46:581 (1) aaand 01:48:009 (1) set the first one note at the end of the black slider, looks better :D
01:53:902 (4,5) spacing >.<
02:00:509 (2,3,4,5) looks a bit confusing...
02:05:331 (3) spacing
03:46:866 (3,4,5,6)

i really like this song (mami kawada >////<) so i give you a star ~(^.^)~
don't forget to give kudosu~~~
Fixed, received kudosu.

Pereira006 wrote:

hello~~

General

the wallpaper is 1224x767 you should make 1024x768 that is better - I'll do it, as last step.
The mp3 is 427kbps you should re-encode mp3 to 192 kbps - ^

[normal]

00:48:545 (3) - Grid 1 dowm?
01:45:688 (2) - Grid 1 up?
01:54:259 (2) - Grid 1 right?
02:22:116 (2) - Remove new combo?
02:49:259 (2) - the end slider is weird the 02:49:974 (1) - end slider maybe make better stack?

lol empty you should make hitsound imo

Hard

Ho my i like this diff i can't find wrong...
ho also again empty hitsound

Star!
Fixed, received kudosu. Hitsounds will be added in next 2 - 3 hours:)

Thanks for modding :)
koki_old_1
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Ryohan
Shanananana
Inamaru
Pretty nice ;)
Star~
Katsu_old_1
kakoni koukaiwanai kanashimiwalalalalalalla~

Nymph
Shana~☆~
Optic
come on people, its a great map ;) +1 if i could do it again :L
CXu
Hi there, sorry I didn't get to actually mod this before now orz

Offset is a bit off. You should probably get someone more experience to check it, but try: 7153. Remember to resnap all notes, as well as fix the inherited sections~~

[Normal]
00:09:617 - Add a note?
00:29:974 (4) - Finish?
00:35:688 (1,3) - The claps on these 2 sliders feels a bit out of place imo.
00:39:081 (2) - Nothing wrong really, just pointing out that this pattern isn't done much in your map, and that it could be a bit tricky. It is fine in itself though, so feel free to keep it.
00:41:402 (1) - With distance snap on, move this more to the left so that it's not obscured by the previous slider. Also, finish?
00:35:688 - 00:52:831 You could try use some whistles here and see if you think that sounds cool :P
00:49:974 - Increase the volume a bit here since the song is picking a bit up?
00:49:974 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Try to move this pattern so that 00:50:331 (2) - is directly stacked under 00:48:902 (4)
00:53:188 (1) - I think the chorus could sound better without the claps, but that's entirely my opinion, but this particular one really sounded odd to me.
00:55:152 (4) - Try adding finish on notes like this and see if you like it?
00:58:009 (4) - Move a bit right and down so 00:57:652 (3,4) is parallell with the slider. Not important, but I guess it looks better.
01:04:259 (3) - Finish
01:09:795 (1,2) - I know the distance is right, but it feels a bit short for me, so try spacing it a wee bit more?
01:23:545 (1,2,3) - Nothing wrong, but you could try to make a symmetrical pattern here :P
01:43:188 (3) - The anchor points aren't actually doing anything here.
01:46:759 (4,1) - Swap the combos?
02:18:366 (1,2,3,4) - Try rearranging this combo a bit. Right now it looks a bit messy and weird.
02:22:116 (2) - Start this slider at the red tick before, and end at 02:22:474?
02:27:474 (2,3,4,5) - I'm not really getting the rhythm you're following here, consider changing?
02:31:759 (1) - Remove this
Same hitsoundcomments like the first part.
02:49:259 (2) - Not expecting another repeat, so remove 1 repeat here?
03:02:116 (3,4) - Stack them, and end the slider at 03:02:831, then move 03:03:366 (5) to 03:03:188
03:28:902 (5) - This slider should begin at 03:29:081 - imo
03:30:688 (3) - Try to make it like this? http://puu.sh/7i5l
03:38:902 (4) - and 03:40:331 (3) - feels weird imo. The repeats doesn't really fit.

[Hard]
00:29:974 - Add a note here with normal-hitfinish.
00:39:974 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - These feels out of place in this slow spot. If you want to keep them, atleast make them the same shape.
Yeah, try add some whistles here too xP
00:51:045 (7) - This is unexpected imo.
00:52:831 (8) - 1 grid down, 1 grid left
The chorus has so many 1/2 sliders. Make some longer ones too?
Oh and if you can, try add some finishes.
01:39:438 (4) - Remove this, move this to begin at that spot 01:39:616 (5), and add a note at 01:40:331. Remember to fix hitsounds.
02:14:974 (9) - move to 02:15:152 -
02:52:831 (1) - Make this prettier
02:54:795 (2) - ^
03:00:331 (4) - CTRL+R? I find this disturbing the flow
03:01:581 (2) - Remove the repeat, and move it to 03:01:759?
03:05:331 (6) - Shouldn't the long slider at 03:05:688 (1) - begin here instead?
03:08:545 (1) - Shorten the spinner to 03:09:616 - , then add a note at 03:09:974 - instead

Nice maps overall though, and I like the feeling of the map ^^
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