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Rokodo
3UNI, Noobita, kanopu lol...

I would have asked Noobita to join UK team but he isn't even in the West. Sorry mate.
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lepidopodus
I'm currently making a 'waiting list'. If you want to join the WC but feel hard to find appropriate teammate, contact me!
marshallracer

lepidopodus wrote:

Second team of Germany registered, Thanks!
so we have two teams now ... could be interesting :P
Backfire

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Backfire wrote:

Ozzy...you must be trollin'. You must've known we're gonna lose big time. :l
Which is why I spoke for all of us when I said that I'd be willing to represent my country on my own.
That's not exactly it...I think that me and you could do alright, but yunacat and...whoever that was...don't you think we could do better or something? Also...I don't think I gave you permission to put me on your team. o-o
OzzyOzrock
I'm pretty sure that a team of under people is not allowed, and no. None of our kind play taiko.

You openly said, "whee I'll join anyone's team shabbyness" so I was like 'ok'


And you seem ok with it so yes.
Backfire
Whatever TwT
anongos
@OzzyOzrock,Backfire I know it doesn't seem like I play taiko at all, but I play the console ones regularly. I just don't get on osu! enough.
Sander-Don

anongos wrote:

@OzzyOzrock,Backfire I know it doesn't seem like I play taiko at all, but I play the console ones regularly. I just don't get on osu! enough.
orly?
Yowane _ Haku
chinese:yukey te2035(me i change the name> w <) sagelord
back up:soroban2000 Darkai7
(arranged for the time being)
leader:te2035
aabc271
Well I have talked with some HK players and we decided to form a team :)

aabc271 ( Captain )
XeBi320
KanaRin
Kanpakyin ( Backup )

Thanks~
OnosakiHito

aabc271 wrote:

Well I have talked with some HK players and we decided to form a team :)

aabc271 ( Captain )
XeBi320
KanaRin
Kanpakyin ( Backup )

Thanks~
Now I'm happy~! :D
wmfchris

OnosakiHito wrote:

aabc271 wrote:

Well I have talked with some HK players and we decided to form a team :)

aabc271 ( Captain )
XeBi320
KanaRin
Kanpakyin ( Backup )

Thanks~
Now I'm happy~! :D

we are just too weak ;w;

lol BTW some other players may want to form team II but I'm not sure of it .w.
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lepidopodus
Team Hong Kong and Team Taiwan registered!

@Yowane _ Haku: Whoops, only one back-up player alloweded.
MMzz

aabc271 wrote:

Well I have talked with some HK players and we decided to form a team :)

aabc271 ( Captain )
XeBi320
KanaRin
Kanpakyin ( Backup )

Thanks~
This is gonna be fun V:
anongos

Sander-Don wrote:

anongos wrote:

@OzzyOzrock,Backfire I know it doesn't seem like I play taiko at all, but I play the console ones regularly. I just don't get on osu! enough.
orly?
ya rly 8-)
LittleMagic_old

OnosakiHito wrote:

LitteMagic! I'm beginng you! orz
Come back! D:
huh ...? o_o Meaning of that ...? ^^" As I said, no time and laptop hates big notes~~~
OzzyOzrock
light667 has replaced Yunacat. She may come back into the team and replace anongos unless he plays the osu! taiko more often, because obviously, that'll be necessary to participate.

Being that I worded that badly:

Yunacat is out, but will replace anongos if he doesn't show more activity on osu!
anongos

OzzyOzrock wrote:

light667 has replaced Yunacat. She may come back into the team and replace anongos unless he plays the osu! taiko more often, because obviously, that'll be necessary to participate.

Being that I worded that badly:

Yunacat is out, but will replace anongos if he doesn't show more activity on osu!
How much activity would you like to see?
OzzyOzrock
Eh, well you're here right now, so I would doubt if you didn't show up if we needed you, so never mind :D
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lepidopodus
Ok, fixed. Still some of US players wants to participate?
Sander-Don

MMzz wrote:

aabc271 wrote:

Well I have talked with some HK players and we decided to form a team :)

aabc271 ( Captain )
XeBi320
KanaRin
Kanpakyin ( Backup )

Thanks~
This is gonna be fun V:
we actually have some competition now meng
matthewhln

Sander-Don wrote:

aabc271 wrote:

Well I have talked with some HK players and we decided to form a team :)

aabc271 ( Captain )
XeBi320
KanaRin
Kanpakyin ( Backup )

Thanks~
we actually have some competition now meng
I hope to join, but I will have a very important exam coming soon lol
KRZY
Still undecided on a team name...

KRZY (Captain)
BloodyLove
R-Scarlet
[Shalon] (Backup)
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lepidopodus
Team Korea registered! As I know there will be one or two more team for Korea.
MMzz
Thought of a few maps that would be nice for this, they arn't to hard just average, (To me lol)

TnT - Yumeiro Coaster (Oni)
TAG - SABER WING (31's Taiko) http://osu.ppy.sh/b/76835
TnT - NECOLOGY (Oni or Inner)
Hatsune Miku - Melt (The arcade one, Oni)
Liberatus - Doll's Garden (A map I made some time ago, farely easy) http://puu.sh/RYa
Daiki Kasho - My Precious (Another by me) http://puu.sh/HNc

Just suggestions P:
anongos

MMzz wrote:

Thought of a few maps that would be nice for this, they arn't to hard just average, (To me lol)

TnT - Yumeiro Coaster (Oni)
TAG - SABER WING (31's Taiko) http://osu.ppy.sh/b/76835
TnT - NECOLOGY (Oni or Inner)
Hatsune Miku - Melt (The arcade one, Oni)
Liberatus - Doll's Garden (A map I made some time ago, farely easy) http://puu.sh/RYa
Daiki Kasho - My Precious (Another by me) http://puu.sh/HNc

Just suggestions P:
I don't remember NECOLOGY having an ura map.
MMzz

anongos wrote:

MMzz wrote:

Thought of a few maps that would be nice for this, they arn't to hard just average, (To me lol)

TnT - Yumeiro Coaster (Oni)
TAG - SABER WING (31's Taiko) http://osu.ppy.sh/b/76835
TnT - NECOLOGY (Oni or Inner)
Hatsune Miku - Melt (The arcade one, Oni)
Liberatus - Doll's Garden (A map I made some time ago, farely easy) http://puu.sh/RYa
Daiki Kasho - My Precious (Another by me) http://puu.sh/HNc

Just suggestions P:
I don't remember NECOLOGY having an ura map.
I does :B
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lepidopodus
@^: Uh, we don't have ura in NECOLOGY yet.
MMzz

lepidopodus wrote:

@^: Uh, we don't have ura in NECOLOGY yet.
Yeah we do, The version I have has Inner O_o, Might not be authentic then.
HeatKai
I just changed name ~
I'm Heatwave95 :P 8-)
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lepidopodus
Ok, fixed!

Oh, I hate pharmacology test.

EDIT:
I wanted to stream those matches by my self but due to sloooow internet speed between here and US(cause I'm trying to use livestream), it might be hard to do that. Instead I should ask to someone else.
Hmm, it wasn't that slow before, does it related with broken cables in undersees?

EDIT 2:
Gezoda --> _Gezo_, fixed.
matthewhln

lepidopodus wrote:

Ok, fixed!

Oh, I hate pharmacology test.

EDIT:
I wanted to stream those matches by my self but due to sloooow internet speed between here and US(cause I'm trying to use livestream), it might be hard to do that. Instead I should ask to someone else.
Hmm, it wasn't that slow before, does it related with broken cables in undersees?

EDIT 2:
Gezoda --> _Gezo_, fixed.
I have been thinking about live streaming match too,but I am thinking if any one have this tech:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13403493

And how to do live streaming is the important point
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lepidopodus
http://www.livestream.com/lepidopodus/v ... 9868ee629a

Played 6 autos in offline. 15 fps, 300~500kbps. At least my computer can deal with that, but unfortunatly due to bad internet connection or something like that, I can't keep quality like dvorak's, I guess.
I'll try ustream too. (Hey, someone's already using 'lepidopodus' as a username, damn it!)
matthewhln

lepidopodus wrote:

http://www.livestream.com/lepidopodus/video?clipId=pla_cd3b0a2d-1795-4423-9872-ab9868ee629a

Played 6 autos in offline. 15 fps, 300~500kbps. At least my computer can deal with that, but unfortunatly due to bad internet connection or something like that, I can't keep quality like dvorak's, I guess.
I'll try ustream too. (Hey, someone's already using 'lepidopodus' as a username, damn it!)
hm...I am quite intersted in how you do that lol

Also, sound is an issue that need to be solved
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lepidopodus
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13414582

Yeah, connection of ustream is lot more better than livestream. I think I'll use this.

Sound issue? Hmm...

EDIT: When I first play that video after recording I can hear sounds but now it's missing, what's happend? :P Ok connection problem lol
matthewhln

lepidopodus wrote:

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13414582

Yeah, connection of ustream is lot more better than livestream. I think I'll use this.

Sound issue? Hmm...
Yeah...that will be good lol
The pervious one are with chaos sounds lol

By the way, there is one more choice of live streaming, which is justin.tv
You can try if you want to

-------------------------------------------
EDIT:
Second problem:
How can you find so much account to get on to osu server to boardcast?
-------------------------------------------
EDIT2:
I am always finding ways to solve those problem
account and multi osu problem lol
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lepidopodus
danny19940914 is substituted by zx0502442, as a request of the captain of Team Taiwan.
OnosakiHito
Well, if you want I can stream some matches for you.
I will have in a few day's 16k Internet. So I guess it will have no lagging problems.
But I dunno how you guy's do that and you said before, multi accounts needs to be avaible.

--------

Nooooo, danny! @@
matthewhln
I have tried to have a live stream in my PC

http://zh-tw.justin.tv/matthewhln/b/281892505
3:45 = auto marisa

My data is (using X-split):

Video:
Max Bitrate:450 kpbs (X.264) (can be higher since it is represent max)
Buffer:900 kbit (due to Max Bitrate)

Audio
44.100KHz 16bit stereo (can low down a bit)
80000 bitrate (same as above)

output size:
640 X 360

FPS:30

As a reference

PS:I hate windows....
Yowane _ Haku
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lepidopodus
@matthewhln: Seems nice. Yeah, internet here is too slow, I don't know why D:
Rikers
Wow I am so late lol
Eh, I suck anyway.
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lepidopodus
The Second Korean Team registered! It would be interesting...

@Rikers: Do you want participate world cup? well, you can find more US players(I saw some, actually), or participate in some other team is available too.

EDIT:
I'm currently thinking about using both round-robin group stage(Only for round 1, maybe.) and knockout tournament stage. If we do that, The Taiko World Cup will go off for about 5~7 weeks, if there's no obstacle like server instablilty. (The match will held in mainly weekends, I guess.)

Any opinions?
OnosakiHito
Um,... could you explane that one more time, please? I didn't understand it.
,,round-robin"?
And without knockout it would be longer then 5~7 weeks?

Edit: Good morning. *swt*
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lepidopodus
not with out knock-out tornament, of course. only 1st or 2nd round will be Round-robin tournament.

I mean, spliting teams in to 4 groups and proceed round-robin tournament, then 1st & 2nd among each groups will participae in knock-out tornament. Just think about Football World Cup and you will get it.

EDIT:
Team Japan registered, Welcome!

EDIT:
Worried about Bancho.
OnosakiHito
Ah, now I understand. Thank you.

This system seams fine to me.
I guess it makes a little bit balance between the teams.(?)
marshallracer
the round-robin idea sounds good to me, too ... seems fair and also shows who is good enough for the knock-out rounds
Sander-Don
Team KoreaB is like, amazing xD
OzzyOzrock
OHHH MY GOD TEAM KOREA B
NeoRainier
About italian team....actually we are in two (me & Jak64) and i'm trying to search a nice 3rd one to be a little bit competitive.
Zekira
Holy fuck

Team KoreaB

...

D:
MMzz
Damn Korea B.
Looks like I have to practice hard! :3
Zekira
@above: no u! I think all the other teams do though... D:
KRZY
lol we should switch Team Korea A and B
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lepidopodus
Well that's decided by who came here first.

EDIT: Please tell me if there are any username changes.
arien666

lepidopodus wrote:

EDIT: Please tell me if there are any username changes.
inb4, 'zekira' seems sad >_>

Anyway... Busy these days ;_;
[Gonna do something tomorrow if possible orz]
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lepidopodus
@^: Fixed, lol.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13491187
Seriously, this damn internet connection here makes everything cripples.
matthewhln

lepidopodus wrote:

@^: Fixed, lol.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13491187
Seriously, this damn internet connection here makes everything cripples.
Yeah, sometimes happen to me too

I will test my PC with 6 osu! later
Finally I have figured out how that's work
But I will need to borrow accounts :roll:

Also I think 3 vs 3 make the screen too small lol


Round-robin group stage is a good idea when there are 16 teams or less (15 teams now)
Maybe 4 groups then each groups have 2 qualified team after round-robin group stage
Then we may have knockout tournament stage (Which A group first qualified team will aginest B group second qualified team,etc)
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lepidopodus
@^: More than 16 teams works too, I guess. I'll stream with 6 Taikos even if it's too small lol

EDIT:
To prevent draw in ranking of the teams within the group, I need to set some criteria to compare. I don't think score difference will work cause playing longer maps can get more score difference. So I suggest score difference/maximum score ratio.
For example, if maximum score is 100,000 and your team scored total 270,000 with your oppenent scored 240,000, your team win your oppenents by 30,000. So your team gets 30,000/100,000=0.300 score ratio points and your oppenent gets -0.300 score ratio points.

Won't be used that much casue there's now draw in matches, but that situation can be happened anyway. Of course no need to calculate those things in knockout tournament.

EDIT2:
Oh, and I should mention that this tournament can be last until June if we adopt Robin-round system, so please consider this, players. There is a strong chance that this tournament will include some robin-round stages.
anongos

lepidopodus wrote:

@^: More than 16 teams works too, I guess. I'll stream with 6 Taikos even if it's too small lol

EDIT:
To prevent draw in ranking of the teams within the group, I need to set some criteria to compare. I don't think score difference will work cause playing longer maps can get more score difference. So I suggest score difference/maximum score ratio.
For example, if maximum score is 100,000 and your team scored total 270,000 with your oppenent scored 240,000, your team win your oppenents by 30,000. So your team gets 30,000/100,000=0.300 score ratio points and your oppenent gets -0.300 score ratio points.

Won't be used that much casue there's now draw in matches, but that situation can be happened anyway. Of course no need to calculate those things in knockout tournament.

EDIT2:
Oh, and I should mention that this tournament can be last until June if we adopt Robin-round system, so please consider this, players. There is a strong chance that this tournament will include some robin-round stages.
So it's only for ranking, and not for deciding wins and losses of a round?
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lepidopodus
@^: May decide that only in robin-round phase if the number of victories is same among certain teams.
wmfchris
For longer songs, 1 miss costs less but in short songs 1 miss cost a lot, that's the problem.

I think we can decide the winners like this, just like football touraments

Firstly we decide the winner by # of wins in the group

Tie breaker 1: more games won (e.g., 3:1, 2:3, 3:0 is better than 3:1, 0:3, 3:0) *
Tie breaker 2: less game conceded (e.g., 3:1, 3:1, 1:3 is better than 3:2, 1:3, 3:2)
Tie breaker 3: score/max score ratio
Tie breaker 4: Extra match (rare case)

*: We won't have a draw for both teams winning 9 matches, so the 1st place is decided before tiebreaker.
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
Oh well, why I didn't think about counting games when there's tie lol

In 1st round(which has high chance to be robon-round stage), you will need to win 3 games to win the match, so counting games won when certain teams has same number of matches won won't work. So...

- Basically more victories --> higher ranking in the group, higher chance to go to the next stage.
- Tie breaker 1: Less game conceded
- Tie breaker 2: score/max score ratio
- Tie breaker 3: Extra match (rare, yeah.)


Longer maps can have more chance to get missed cause it has more notes, so I think 1 miss costs less in longer maps can be justify.

EDIT:
I expect to start the tournament in April 16th, but I think I won't be able to participate the matches in that day, so I'll entrust arien666 temporarily to do the manager's work for the day. (Well, that will be the first day of tournament so I wanted to deal issues by myself since there can be a lots of mistakes, but I think I won't be able to do it Q_Q)

EDIT:
See below lol
wmfchris
Tie breaker applies to teams who don't win all three games, so they can have different number of games won during the match conceded.

e.g.
Team A 3:1, 3:1, 2:3
Team B 3:1, 3:1, 0:3

Team A > Team B
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lepidopodus
Whoops, I think I'm quite dull, you are right.

- Basically more victories --> higher ranking in the group, higher chance to go to the next stage.
- Tie breaker 1: more games won
- Tie breaker 1: Less games conceded
- Tie breaker 2: score/max score ratio
- Tie breaker 3: Extra match
NeoRainier
Here we are...the DT team! (DT has so many meanings that i can't even tell the whole of them lol)
Nationalities: Italy-Holland

Members:
NeoRainier (IT)
Pheon (NL)
Jak64 (IT)
Henkie (NL)

I have to thank Pheon for his availability (and creativity lol)

PS: BANZAI
Pheon
Pff, don't thank me for that, in fact, I should thank you for putting up with me o.o;;
By the way, that flag is awesome!

PS: BANZAI
OzzyOzrock
no green flags combo breaker lol
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lepidopodus
Uh.... Ok, since there are no Italy or Netherlands team currently, and 2 players are Italian and 2 players are dutch can be registered as Italy-Netherlands, I guess?

EDIT:
Italy-Netherlands: NeoRainier, Pheon, Jak64, Henkie
or
Italy-Netherlands: NeoRainier, Pheon, Jak64, Henkie

Which way would be better?
Anyway, registered!
OzzyOzrock
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Quality increase~
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lepidopodus
@^: Ok, slight modification and... done, thanks!
wmfchris
now we have exactly 16 teams lol
matthewhln
I have been thinking,
This rule:
8. The team wins 3 games first will win the match. In semi-final and final, the team need to win 4 games.

If it can changed into,
Round-robin group stage: Wins 3 games
Knockout tournament stage: Wins 4 games
Final: Wins 5 games
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lepidopodus
@^: Hmm, that seems nice, I'll give some thoughs about that. Thanks for your opinion!
RockeDon

matthewhln wrote:

I have been thinking,
This rule:
8. The team wins 3 games first will win the match. In semi-final and final, the team need to win 4 games.

If it can changed into,
Round-robin group stage: Wins 3 games
Knockout tournament stage: Wins 4 games
Final: Wins 5 games
Rlly nice idea, more fun, action and suspense!
Acrith
Time of Poland! :3..The last shall be first :P

Poland: 1miko1, rEdo, Acrith, Niko- :).
RockeDon

Acrith wrote:

Time of Poland! :3..The last shall be first :P

Poland: 1miko1, rEdo, Acrith, Niko- :).
Now we have to come 30 minutes before the match start!
(Because polaks have a bad i-net connection) *loled so hard*
Topic Starter
lepidopodus
Team Poland registered!

Acutally, this Taiko world cup has been recognized by peppy already, so I can say this is official, right? >w<
http://puu.sh/1klA
mekadon_old

lepidopodus wrote:

Team Poland registered!

Acutally, this Taiko world cup has been recognized by peppy already, so I can say this is official, right? >w<
http://puu.sh/1klA
Now I have more spirit playing roflmao xDXD That's great! :D
1miko1

RockeDon wrote:

Acrith wrote:

Time of Poland! :3..The last shall be first :P

Poland: 1miko1, rEdo, Acrith, Niko- :).
Now we have to come 30 minutes 2 hours before the match start!
(Because polaks have a bad i-net connection) *loled so hard*
Fixed.
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lepidopodus
Currently I'm making map pools for this Taiko WC. Already chose 120 songs, though not all of them will be used.

Not that many good & hard maps in Ranked standard maps to play Taiko, unfortunalty.
wmfchris

lepidopodus wrote:

Currently I'm making map pools for this Taiko WC. Already chose 120 songs, though not all of them will be used.

Not that many good & hard maps in Ranked standard maps to play Taiko, unfortunalty.
Agree orz

BTW we have 17 teams so it's not easy to put them in pools orz
OnosakiHito
1miko1 is there... oh yeah...
and everything is official now.... hell yeah. :3
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lepidopodus
Quite interesting situation happend in Osu World Cup, check OWC thread about that.

In Taiko World Cup? Read rule number 4, guys. I don't know when I set that rule but it exists lol
arien666
Umm...
Most osu maps are with 1/4Finish so it would not be good on taiko orz
Maybe, I need to pick up some great ranked Taiko diffs but,
I wonder if it should be Oni diff...

wonder orz
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lepidopodus
@^: that's what I'm worried about. Even chosen osu standard maps have 1/4 finishes, weird SV change, loling streams or something like that.
Just pick up something you want, arken.

EDIT:
@∨: Fixed.
blacksymbian
Hi there Lepi. I'd like to switch etherealetenity to caelumangelus please?.. thanks!

P.S. We're Team PH btw :D
RockeDon

lepidopodus wrote:

@^: that's what I'm worried about. Even chosen osu standard maps have 1/4 finishes, weird SV change, loling streams or something like that.
Just pick up something you want, arken.
And standart maps have not rly a drum rhytm!
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lepidopodus
d d k d d d k d d d k d d d k d d d k d...... Yeah, lots of maps are like that.
Worse case: k k K k k K k K k k k K k K K K.....
wmfchris
Yes there're many solo diffs with 1/4 finishes but there're also lots of them without 1/4 finishes... ._.

Not easy to find them out though :3



d d k d d d k d ... is the pattern that adopted in most maps, but usually there're more variation in harder diff ._.

ddddddddddd/kkkkkkkkkkk usually appear in some very old maps so probably we won't choose them =P
Pheon
Well, osu-diffs should be added if they're good, really. The problem is the SV too.
*cough Banned Forever cough* *it is awesome to play though if you know the map cough cough*
wmfchris
SV isn't a problem unless they're far too slow (like SV0.8 or lower), too high (SV2.0 or higher, or high BPM with quite high SV), odd shift of SV to give difficulty in reading note...
SV 1.4 is only the usual practice of namco but we don't really need to follow that one :3
Zekira
SV isn't a problem
Get out.
OzzyOzrock
Sure some osu! diffs are fun, but are they what we need in a tournament? It could end up going from whoever can actually hit these patterns to whoever can keep their rhythm on rolls and accuracy in high OD.
OnosakiHito
The only problem I can see by using osu! maps is the SV.
But patterns are not really that big problem. I mean we know the maps, so I don't belive that some one took KKkKKkkKKkk maps or so.

Some osu! maps have also a good Taiko beat. Somtimes it's better then a Taiko map it self, honestly.
So don't using osu! diff's could be maybe also boring? I dunno.
Sander-Don
osu! diffs in a taiko tournie? i don't even

also a profile badge ♥ キタ━━━(゜∀゜)━━━!!!!! ♥
matthewhln
I think speed changing or speedy map( fast SV or High BPM) is some kind of challenge to the player
of course it should not be unplayable like Hatsune Miku - Hatsune Miku no Shuuen [demise]

but I think some can be added into the pool to make to game more interesting...

About the pattern, it will depend on what level of map you wanted to take
or what standard you like to take on choosing winner( Their skills or their accuracy )

Still, some maps like Len - U.N. Owen was her? [lepidon! - Taiko Oni] is a bit too hard for some players
I don't think they should appear in early battles.
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lepidopodus
Ok, 137 songs in mappool will be fine, I guess. somewhat lacks very hard maps, but I'll gonna make some maps if it's really needed. (lol)
OnosakiHito
@matthewhln: Len - U.N. Owen was her? [lepidon! - Taiko Oni]
@Lepidopodus: Tell me if you need help because of less time or so.

By the way, isn't it clear now that easy songs will be choosen at the beginning and hard songs at the end?
Or is it still the question, which maps should be choosen?
wmfchris
The difficulty of making diffs for competition is that we can reach less modders and we have to finish it internally ._.

well I'm ok for that :3

Clearly there's a general trend of increasing difficulty when the match goes into later stage.
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