jericho2442 wrote:

Halo in Nightfall
alot of fixing needs done on this map, so for now now i will just combo mod and do a tiny placement mod

........eh, this is meant to be the easy yet it has smaller circles than the hard xD, i advise to up the circle size

AR is abit high for easy i think, lower it abit fixed

COMBO MOD
00:14:853 (4) - newcombo fixed
00:17:075 (1) - remove new combo fixed
00:31:297 (1) - remove newcombo fixed
00:32:630 (2) - newcombo fixed
00:33:519 (1) - remove newcombo fixed
00:36:186 (1) - remove newcombo, and then stack under the note before it fixed
00:46:853 (1) - remove newcombo fixed
00:48:186 (3) - newcombo fixed
00:49:519 (1) - remove newcombo fixed
00:57:519 (1,2) - put the newcombo on the (2) insted to be consistant fixed
00:59:742 (1) - remove newcombo fixed
02:43:562 (1) - remove newcombo fixed

map mod
00:44:186 (4) - remove this note, it plays REALLY bad fixed
00:51:964 (1) - feems too close to the combo before it, move it abit more away fixed
01:18:853 - 01:47:297 tooooo much break with just a spinner in the middle of this, you need to map more of it fixed mapped

Into the Dark
02:26:701 (4,5) - the spacing between these two notes does not play good, i advise to give them the same spacing as the rest of the song fixed
04:21:555 (1) - remove newcombo fixed

Glare at Midnight
this map does not start good, it would start much better if you started it in the same place you start the hard diff

ok some advise for now on this

first off the start of the maps spacing is a lil too cramped i do advise to give it the same spacing all the way through, it would give it a better flow and play better fixed

i also think your using a few too many spinners, spinners are good but when you have soo many small ones it can really knock the play off. i would advise to see if you can map where some of the spinners are, this way it will make the map more fun for ppl remaped 4 spinners

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ok this is getting better, you still have abit of way to go, but keep at it and it should be great o/

lepidopodus wrote:

Halo in Nightfall
- I think you can put more hitsound in non-kiai parts...? Putting clap or whistle in 3rd beat of a measure constantly would work? fixed
- Spinners are quite close to next notes, if we consider this is 2.32 star map. i think 1 beat maybe a bit short but still ok
00:16:630 (5) - New combo here, instead of 00:17:075 (1)? removed new combo here
00:21:075 (5,6) - Put some hitsound here? (clap or whistle or finish or something else?) fixed
00:53:519 (5) - I was confused about this one. Would you like to make it bigger triangle so the start & end point of slider can be distinguished more better? consider to add an arrow in sb
01:15:742 (3) - How about moving this one grid left? fixed
01:29:519 (1) - Two long break and only about 2sec long spinner is between them, hmm... would you like to map this part more than this? get mapped
02:30:862 (4) - How about moving this one grid left? fixed
02:32:613 (4) - How about moving this one grid down? fixed

Into the Dark
00:53:964 (2) - New combo here, instead of 00:53:519 (1)? fixed
01:04:408 (1) - Add finish in the start point of the slider? fixed
01:33:519 (2) - How about moving this one grid right? fixed
01:37:964 (4) - ^ fixed
03:25:387 (1) - Add finish in the start point of the slider? fixed

cmn's Taiko Stage
00:36:630 (2,3,4,5,6) - Well, let's start this vocal part with 'light patterns'? (a.k.a. consider using simpler pattern?)
00:37:742 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - ^ (Both of these also applies to counterparts in other parts.)
00:46:853 (20~28) - This kind of complex 1/4 stream isn't fit that well with this quite momment. Try using this in more epic part. (This also applies to counterparts in other parts.)
02:29:438 (1) - Move to 02:29:329.
03:52:102 (X) - Add a note?
03:56:482 (1,2,3,4,1) - Remove 1,2,4,1 and make 3 big note?
04:21:664 (79,80) - Remove those and add k in 04:21:555.

Glare at Midnight
00:22:853 (5,6) - I just felt this rhythm is somewhat weird to me. Maybe ok to you. remapped some of notes but it does't make any help with the rhythm
00:45:964 (5,6,7) - Move 5 one grid up and move 7 one grid down? fixed
01:04:408 (1) - Finish in the start of the slider? fixed
01:04:853 (2) - How about moving this one grid left? fixed
01:10:186 (1,2) - ^ fixed
01:13:297 (7) - How about moving this one grid right? fixed
01:18:853 (8) - Add finish? fixed
01:51:519 (1) - Lower volume except the end of the spinner? reduce 2 grid in volume
02:10:278 (4,5,6) - Move 4 one grid up and move 6 one grid down? fixed
02:29:329 (10) - Clap, or something like that? added finish
02:38:745 (2,3) - How about moving this one grid left? fixed
03:34:584 (1) - Moving 2 grid right & 2 grid up? fixed
03:52:978 (1) - Add finish? fixed
04:20:898 (1,1,1,1) - Remove new combo? just wanna play a trick and not fixed

Well, maybe helpful, maybe not.

Licnect wrote:

hi 英文有點差 用中文Modding ~

[Overall]
soft-slap 的拍手聲蠻適合這首歌的2.4拍
何謂2.4拍呢? 就是長白線算第一拍 之後的小白線是第二拍 以此類推 fixed
有興趣的話可以參考我的Test diff
其他我就不Mod了
大致上沒有大問題
只是節奏上有些問題而已

Sorry~ poor modding

thanks very much for all your modding and precious advices

remapped hitsounds in all diffs and part of note in [Glare at Midnight]

lepidopodus wrote:

cmn's Taiko Stage
00:36:630 (2,3,4,5,6) - Well, let's start this vocal part with 'light patterns'? (a.k.a. consider using simpler pattern?)
change as d_d_k
00:37:742 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - ^ (Both of these also applies to counterparts in other parts.)
change as kdd_kdd
00:46:853 (20~28) - This kind of complex 1/4 stream isn't fit that well with this quite momment. Try using this in more epic part. (This also applies to counterparts in other parts.)
change as kdd_k_k_k
02:29:438 (1) - Move to 02:29:329.
fixed
03:52:102 (X) - Add a note?
fixed
03:56:482 (1,2,3,4,1) - Remove 1,2,4,1 and make 3 big note?
fixed
04:21:664 (79,80) - Remove those and add k in 04:21:555.
fixed

cmn_891127 wrote:

lepidopodus大人是好人……
继续改Taiko

SapphireGhost wrote:

Halo in Nightfall
00:49:519 (3) This note could be considered as too hard for an easy difficulty. maybe there would be a bit hard to read but i guess it wouldn't be an obstacle to pass the diff
01:04:408 (1) Could cause some "omg note after spinner agh" moments. changed circle to a slider. maybe this would be easier?
01:46:408 I advise a note here, or a break. fixed
Into the Dark
(Note: I see the breaks are fairly uneven here. The first half has one, and the second half has three. No big sweat though.)
01:35:297 There is nothing here. A note or break would be nice. for someone, the latter he plays, the more break he needs, right?
Glare at Midnight
01:40:168 Is the break required? You can do fun things with beats here. yeah i remapped in this break
03:41:154 (11) I'm not sure if this is intentional, but the 11 is not in line with the 10. quite ok, isn't it?

Love the song and the map! Star

Roddie wrote:

Hi

Halo in the Nightfall:
00:07:630 (1)-Remove that clap. Add a finish instead. fixed
00:21:964 (x)-Add a note. fixed
00:43:297 (3)-Add a finish on the beginning of that slider. fixed
00:50:408 (5)-^ fixed
01:47:297 (1)-^ fixed
02:01:519 (1)-^ fixed
02:08:526 (1)-^? fixed
02:29:548 (1)-Add a finish. fixed
02:38:745 (2, 4)-Add claps here. fixed

Into the Dark:
00:21:964 (1 , 2, 5)-On 1 and 2, Add claps on the end of those sliders. And on 5, Add a clap. fixed
00:50:408 (1, 4)-On 1, add a finish on the beginning of that slider. And on 4, Add a clap. fixed
01:18:853 (x)-Add a note and a finish. fixed
02:15:314 (1)-Add a finish on the beginning of that slider. fixed
02:43:562 (x)-Add a note. fixed

cmn's Taiko Stage:

Skipping.

Glare at Midnight:
00:21:853 (x)-Add a note and stack with this note on 00:21:964? :3 good idea
00:36:186 (1)-Add a finish on the beginning of that slider. fixed
01:33:519 to 01:45:075-Add some hitsounds. i intend to set a no effect part here
02:01:519 (1)-Add a finish on the beginning of that slider. fixed
02:15:314 (1)-^? fixed
03:39:621 (5)-Add a finish. fixed
04:07:650 (1)-^? fixed

Not bad for someone's first map. Nice work!

Good luck getting this ranked!

Star!

Tonoko wrote:

hi

[Halo in Nightfall]
01:18:408 kiai包括最后的note吧
一些位置放得比较随意 没对齐什么的 注意细节哦

后面两个难度也很不错了
一些感觉稍微不对的地方也不是技术上的问题，是一些习惯和各自节奏的不同的问题。

最后的谢谢故事版还没播完就没了 fix一下。。。

歌很喜欢.><

thekillerhjkhjk wrote:

[timing]

1st red timing point: BPM: 134.967
Offset: 609

2nd red timing point: BPM:137
Offset: 121,527

Resnap afterwards fixed

[Glare at Midnight]
Rename [Midnight Glare]? it sounds more mysterious and its two letters shorter :3 it's a good idea :3

00:07:631 (1,2) - Make this into a slider, the music's awkward note placement makes it counter-intuitive fixed
02:27:358 (4) - pretty bad underlap, move the slider tail please? fixed

[into the dark]

why does this difficulty start at a different time as the rest?

one issue i have is that this difficulty seems a bit claustrophobic, if you know what i mean
The notes are stacked regularly, and clustered together. Would you mind spacing out your mapping a bit more?

also your short sliders that you shape as points don't help this case either.

you even find out my emotion when i mapping this diff.
yes i feel very depressed at the time.
so this negative feeling maybe brought to the spacing and some other facts
i have to say sorry here but i'll keep it with my willing

[halo at nightfall]

00:53:519 (5) - LOLOLOLOL an arrow to tell which way to go. One of my problems with slider artists is that its hard to see which way to start XD would you mind making the arrow appear earlier? there's not much time to react at the moment. what the hell i did! and fixed

02:36:555 (1) - move the end point of the slider left one tiny square, and then move the middle slider point down one tiny square fixed

overall a nice map.

Fix timing and repost in my queue and ill star

thekillerhjkhjk wrote:

sounds good!

star

kioukiou wrote:

[Into the Dark]

04:08:960 (7) - 感覺有點難以注意到是slider. 換個方式排?

James2250 wrote:

Have to pop this for now, mainly because of sb issues but there are some other things to check too

If possible resize wave01 so it is 800x600 or under (atm it is 1146x250)
Keep kiai consistent on all of your difficulties

Halo in Nightfall:
-Get rid of all of the lyrics after the map ends or the map will not finish by itself (I would also move the "thanks for playing" to the end of this map not the end of the mp3)
-Try and avoid anti jumps on the easiest difficulty (will point some out)
-Slightly hard for the easiest difficulty but I guess it can pass
00:43:293 (3,1) - space out more slightly remapped here
00:53:515 (5) - needs to be separated out so beginners can read which way the slider goes
01:36:626 (1,2,3,4) - too hard for beginners to read in my opinion (its covered by hitbursts), try and make a different pattern slightly remapped here
01:50:404 (5,1) - space out more fixed

Into the Dark:
Why not start this difficulty at the same place as the others? (where the sb starts)
03:03:485 (1,1,1) - most people don't like 3 spinners in a row but they can stay if you want
03:53:631 (1) - end this spinner at 03:56:916 like midnight glare? fixed
04:08:522 (5,6,1) - spacing change here could be confusing to players (same for one after it) today is eveless' birthday isn't it?

cmn's Taiko Stage:
Would be nice if you could make the lyrics that appear at the center of the screen lower on this difficulty, or else they look kind of strange as the taiko bar blocks them

Midnight Glare:
0.5 sliders seem out of place at the start slightly remapped here
00:37:293 (4,1) - space out more (0.5 makes distance snap look odd) fixed
00:41:071 (3,1,1) - spacing fixed
01:11:626 (1,2,3) - sounds odd on blue ticks, and is the only stack that is on these ticks in the map that I see delayed these 3 notes by 1/4 beat
01:56:849 (3,4) - don't have hidden repeats though i don't think this is a hidden repeat but still fixed XD
02:14:872 (8,1) - space out more fixed
02:24:069 (7,1) - ^ i think this part is quite ok or i have to change the whole stucture here
03:33:814 (8,9,1) - odd spacing fixed
04:20:785 (1,1,1,1,1) - all new combos aren't really needed but they're not annoying, isn't it?

Go through and try and keep spacing more consistent in general
It would be nicer if you could get 1 or 2 more mods and then call me back for a rebubble

James2250 wrote:

Into the Dark:
Why not start this difficulty at the same place as the others? (where the sb starts)

James2250 wrote:

It would be nicer if you could get 1 or 2 more mods and then call me back for a rebubble

qinche wrote:

ok mod

[overall]
normal-sliderslide并没有用过，可以删掉 fixed
第一条BPM的offset我的感觉是622 我用QQ姐给的627打第二个难度mistime hit率也只有10几点 难道还是太高了吗

[midnight glare]

00:55:960 (7,8,9) - 玩的时候我只有这里不太确定，漏了一个note，如果可以的话，请换个排列吧 是♪
总体来说，我建议以后做图可以多试试看跟着大体节奏，不一定非要跟着歌词语调走，因为这首歌很轻飘飘的，所以跟歌词就比较难map（尤其是vocal偶尔会抢拍）
04:20:785 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - 这个串，我觉得可以删成和音乐一样的x x x，排列可以放开一点 最后一个note在蓝线上的缘故所以我觉得如果把这儿做成jumping note可能会坑到不少人


[into the dark]

orz特大圈看得我好痛苦，也是一不留神就哪个地方漏了一个，可以的话换成大圈吧，好读很多 难道不是因为呆呆太呆了吗? fixed 其实AR再高一点也许就好读了
如果你是想有个过渡的diff（即可以当hard也可以当normal），还是作罢吧，很多排列其实相当难，normal玩家来说会fail的

[halo in nightfall]

00:59:071 (1,2) - 建议摆的再放开一点 摆开一点会比较好读吗? fixed

我蛮喜欢这歌的~star

Ice coffee wrote:

8-)

scarlethana wrote:

James2250 wrote:

Into the Dark:
Why not start this difficulty at the same place as the others? (where the sb starts)
03:03:485 (1,1,1) - most people don't like 3 spinners in a row but they can stay if you want
03:53:631 (1) - end this spinner at 03:56:916 like midnight glare? fixed
04:08:522 (5,6,1) - spacing change here could be confusing to players (same for one after it) today is eveless' birthday isn't it?

soulfear wrote:

別墳阿 快去找人拿回泡

qinche wrote:

ok for fun.

unless you do want it..?

qinche wrote:

哇啊啊啊啊上学的时候突然想起来干了一件蠢事，忘了把音效附加上了

等我回家补上来囧！

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http://puu.sh/158n <--加上这个听起来应该正常了，记得full submit

不要等二又二百五了，给了他一个多月的时间也没反应，果断换个MAT或者BAT来看图吧

我怀疑会有人说我做的不够长和其他几个diff不对应，如果情况是这样，我会补到最后，不过实在是太吃梗了囧

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还有惑わされない sining voice in back这句是不是写错了，是singing吧？

Sakura Hana wrote:

Ok i heard the story from James2250 and i cant ignore a mapper in need of help so i decided to give this a look o/ even tho it's not in my queue.
[General]
As many ppl know already i hate inconsistent diff lengths, i strongly recommend that all diffs end at the same spot.

[Storyboard]
wave 01.png has some unnecessary transparencies at the top. i really don't know how to solve this issue.....

[quinche]
Snap the first kiai to the long white tick, even if it's in middle of a slider, it makes sense since it's the strong beat, unless you want to change that slider into something else =P
Same for 2nd kiai.
And the 3rd...
You're starting kiai on the build-up vocal for the chorus' strong beat, instead of the strong beat itself, it makes way more sense for kiai to start up on the long white tick remember that.

[Midnight Glare]
Spinners are lacking new combos. Need new combos to prevent spinner bug. Specially noticeable here: 03:06:770 (1) and other instances with 2 spinners in a row, since this happens http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/61885 fixed
04:20:785 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - New combo spam can screw up HP calculations. HP calculations aren't important enough at the end of the whole map, imo

[Into the Dark]
Once again spinners are lacking new combos, same reason. fixed

[Halo in Nightfall]
Same comment about spinners and new combos i can't find any two spinners in a row(?)
00:53:515 (5) - Unrankable, a slider start and end CANNOT overlap. but i have made an arrow to show how to follow this slider, is it still unrankable?
02:22:536 (1,2,3) - [Nazi] (3) 1 grid up. fixed

Well when stuff's fixed call me back and i'll recheck, for now i'll restore the star icon this map should have since it was bubbled once before

Sakura Hana wrote:

Kiai does need to be snapped to the long white tick, on its current position it looks reeaaaaally awkward.

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 F,0,205161,205599,0.5599998,0

Sakura Hana wrote:

As far as your spinners, yeah ALL spinners need new combos, not necessarily because there are 2 in a row. fixed
Kiai does need to be snapped to the long white tick, on its current position it looks reeaaaaally awkward.
Yeah slider start and end cannot overlap even if you have an arrow, tbh i didnt even see the arrow? fixed
To solve the unnecessary transparency issue, just go to your program that you use to edit images and select all but the transparencie and crop to selection. thanks to qinche~

Sakura Hana wrote:

Edit 3: Also you shouldnt spam kiai fountains...

Lunah wrote:

and another thing, i never undestood why KIAI time should be equal for all difficulties o_O .. is just a precision thing, nothing to force to change

Sakura Hana wrote:

Lunah wrote:

and another thing, i never undestood why KIAI time should be equal for all difficulties o_O .. is just a precision thing, nothing to force to change

No there's no rule that says that or about the white tick, it's just that ALMOST always it goes on the long white tick, however seeing as that one kiai and the one in the previous diffs were just off by 1/2 made me wonder, the strong beat does start on 1/1 not 1/2, but if you guys find it makes more sense on the 1/2 one i dont mind at all, however it would make more sense since both diffs have kiai times around the same spots, to also share the start time of the kiai.
All in all it's just what makes more sense rather than "rules" so yeah, and there WAS a kiai fountain spam before http://puu.sh/163r i still remember that i took a puush of it, but if that got fixed then no problem i'll recheck this map shortly.
Edit: So in the end you removed kiai because you didnt want kiai to make sense huh... if that's how you want to play it then i suggest you start looking for another MAT to bubble this because i dont want to bubble a mapper that's taking the easy way out, or even touching a guest taiko diff where kiai IS important.

scarlethana wrote:

it will never being too exhausted to get a bbl, right? XD
killing kiai parts will never comfort anyone but myself.
so, this is my choice and i'll never complain about anything.

once i wanna give up, but there still have someone loving this song and willing this map getting ranked.
and in order to telling me about this in chinese he even used an interpreting machine.
though that pm was so hard to read, i was deeply moved.
that is why i'm still here in this long long journey.

thanks to kioukiou, james2250 and sakura hana for your patience to have a look at this awkwardly creation.
thanks to all modders who once modded in this thread.
thanks to all friends who gave your star to this map.
thanks to all players who ever played this map.

now it's time to stop arguing and seeking for further modding.

Sakura Hana wrote:

Working Hard = Instead of fixing kiai, removing it completely?
I'm impressed that you guys take something so simple this far, I just dislike mappers that rather than fix just scrap out everything and throw it away, i've seen instances where mappers rather throw a map to the graveyard than fix, if this is how you want to do it then do it, but as i said, dont ask me for a bubble then. If you do decide to restore and fix kiai contact me again, but for now I should just stop coming back to this thread.

qinche wrote:

it is not making sense for kiai to start at 1/1 or 1/2 on my diff becuz i have a beat on the blue tick, why would player hit a note and feel the kiai afterward? i dunno how that would make sense. she started on 1/1 because her note arrangement is different from mine, it will not make sense if kiai starts and no notes are hited.

Sakura Hana wrote:

[quinche]
02:57:135 (1,1,1,1,1) - New combo spam screws HP calculations
03:10:055 (1,1,1,1) - ^
03:31:843 (6) - Slider track barely visible due to hitburst.

Natteke wrote:

oh my sakura stop being nazi it's disgusting

Sakura Hana wrote:

[quinche]
02:57:135 (1,1,1,1,1) - New combo spam screws HP calculations
03:10:055 (1,1,1,1) - ^
03:31:843 (6) - Slider track barely visible due to hitburst.

Sakura Hana wrote:

[quinche]

Sakura Hana wrote:

quinche

Lunah wrote:

Also Sakura is a good MAT and Modder.
I hope that you can find agreement for the bubble.

qinche wrote:

so @scarlethana, please remove the nc on 02:57:135 for me, thx

done

edit:

ill shoot a pink star for ur effort, 不要灰心。

thank you guys.
and sakura you win my respect with your own principle.
the most, daidai you works too hard for me.

Sakura Hana wrote:

Well, there's nothing else i can do here for you, so enjoy your well earned Rebubble~ Really hope this gets ranked soon

Alace wrote:

<Into the Dark>
04:08:960 (6) - new combo
04:10:712 (6) - ^
04:11:150 (7) - ^
04:11:369 (1) - cancel the new combo

That`s all