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taNa
nice map~
Rigeru_old
star :)
AquaBlue_old
star~☆
swish
check
nice~ :P
Cat
:3
Tomoka Rin
nice

good luck~
Rusty
star!
chocomint
o.o~
Uan
star!~
:3
Eirene
can be improved a lot... but already cool *.*
good luck
LaceWingfield
star! kakkoi~~ :DD
klubek
star~*
Vass_Bass
General
20 метров весит вся папка, по критериям конечно подходит, но мне кажется это многовато, видео можно сжать (хотя я думаю БАТы или МАТы потом решат)
сделай бг 1024х768, требуют
на счет тагов так же не уверена, я бы посоветовала убрать Korea, pop (когда карта ранкуется ей назначают стиль)
и проследи чтоб Kotya было во всех диффах в тагах

Normal
00:41:919 (5,6) - замени на один возвращающийся слайдер 00:41:919 - 00:42:894
00:45:821 (5) - а это на возвращающийся слайдер и круг (00:45:821 - 00:46:309 - слайдер, 00:46:553 - круг)
00:49:967 (6) - не стакуй, помести рядом со слайдером
01:18:992 (1,2) и т.д.- вот эти комбо по 2 круга не очень вписываются, я думаю их надо "смешать" с остальными комбо
01:42:406 (1) - сделай симметричнее( достаточно просто поместить средний квадратик слайдера на середину)
01:44:602 (3) - новое комбо
01:55:089 - сюда круг (иначе не звучит)
01:55:821 (5) - а этот слайдер 01:56:065 - сюда
02:25:333 (1,2,3) - на одну клетку ниже
03:16:065 (1,2,1,2,3) - не для нормала такие моменты, каждое комбо нужно расстаковать

Kotya's Hard
слайдеры..косые т_Т поровнее надо сделать
лучше если киаи будет везде одинаковое
00:46:309 (7) - 3 возвращения тут не звучит, я бы убрала их
01:04:114 (7) - убери новое комбо
01:05:089 (1) - поставь новое комбо
01:22:894 - эмм, внезапное киаи? лучше уж тогда его вообще не использовать тут
01:28:504 (1) - сделай этот слайдер такой же угловой как предыдущий
и опять непонятное киаи
02:38:748 (1) - то же самое
03:22:894 (11) - хорошо бы было продлить до белой линии его, для лучшего звучания (но тогда он длинный сильно) можно что-то другое тут придумать

Insane
к слову, киаи должно заканчиваться/начинаться на ноте,а не на пустом месте
OD поставь на 2 черточки меньше
00:42:284 (1,1) - не делай тут новых комбо
00:57:893 (1,1) - ^
01:01:187 (8) - 1 клетку вправо
01:02:162 (3) - смотри чтоб этот слайдер был симметричен кругу
01:02:894 (4,5,6) - прыжки мне кажется тут не к месту
01:33:626 (1,1) - ...
01:42:406 - зря использовал снижение скорости, слайдеры и так не быстрые,а это так вообще тормозит все
01:56:431 (1,1) - ... (дальше думаю сам поправишь все)
02:48:748 (1) - спейсинг
02:52:650 - опять про скорость
03:39:480 ^
03:47:772 (2) - клетку вверх

вроде все, стар
RandomJibberish
General
  1. You could do with an easy - I can make you one if you want, just let me know.
  2. Replace the bg with this: you won't get the ugly black bars at the top and bottom.
Insane
  1. A lot if your streams (e.g. 01:12:772 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - , pretty much all of them in the chorus etc) don't really follow anything prominent in the music, don't fit the mood of the song and map as a whole and are really just there to add fake difficulty. Keep in mind that maps are fun because they nicely follow the music, not becuase they're as hard as possible.
    I could go and point them all out, but I trust you to go through and fix them up yourself :P
  2. The speed changes seem unneccesary and extreme. Remove or lessen them (0.75 and 1.5 are good choices)
  3. 02:03:626 (6) - Not sure whiy you don't just start the slider here :P
  4. 03:11:919 (1) - End 1/4 earlier
Kotya's Hard
  1. No (reasonably sized) breaks?
  2. Same as insane with the streams, and many of the triplets. A hard shouldn't really have much 1/4 at all, let alone random unfitting 1/4 :(
    I reccomend removing all the 1/4 that doesn't follow the lyrics.
  3. The speed changes are unneccesary and unfitting. Lessen or remove them (Again, 0.75 is a good choice)
  4. 02:08:504 (1) - Would fit much better as a slider
  5. 02:13:626 (4,5) - This jump's a little out of the blue
  6. 03:39:480 (1,2) - ^
  7. 02:17:528 (1) - end 1/1 earlier or 2/1 later
  8. 03:03:626 (1,2,3,4) - Okay, most of the streams are pretty bad, bur srsly what
  9. 03:37:528 (6,7,8,9,10) - Very confusing all stacked like this
Normal
  1. Very low difficulty settings for a normal
  2. Mapping on this diff gets a bit square at times - mix up the patterns a bit?
  3. 00:47:528 (1,2) - Spaaaacing
Colin Hou
[General]:
  1. tags: Korea remove? Korean would be the genre, but Korea @_@, as Seoul is a city of Korea?
[Normal]:
  1. 00:48:138 (2) - spacing
  2. 03:18:016 (6) - new combo
[Kotya's Hard]:
  1. claps in this diff is a bit random, and I admit Normal has a much better using of claps
  2. 00:57:528 (1,2,3) - ok, at some part of this song like this, following the vocal is a better way ;w;, I mean 00:57:528, 00:57:894, 00:58:260.
  3. 01:01:431 (1,2,3) - ^ and there are a lot in this song so meh.. I won't list all of them
  4. 00:46:309 (7) - reverse arrow is covered by the hitburst of 00:45:333 (5)
  5. 02:17:528 (1) - end this at 02:19:480
  6. 02:21:431 (1,2,3) - spacing
  7. 02:38:748 (1,2,3) - ^
[Insane]:
  1. overuse of claps
  2. more than 3 slider speed, so consider to use x0.75 instead of x0.5 sliders
  3. 01:44:845 (3) - place this with your shift button down
  4. 01:51:431 (6) - ^
  5. 01:55:577 (7) - ^
  6. 02:03:382 (5) - ^
  7. 02:46:065 (4) - ^
  8. 02:49:967 (4) - ^ remember to adjust the following ones
  9. 03:20:943 (3,4,5) - new combo on 3 and the spacing
  10. 03:24:602 (2) - place this with your shift button down
  11. 03:25:577 (4) - ^
  12. 03:50:943 (2) - ^
  13. 03:58:992 (3) - ^
  14. 04:01:919 (4,5,6) - spacing
star~
Kotya
[attachment=0:6a0f4]Super Junior & SNSD - Seoul Song (Zorlok_) [Kotya's Hard].osu[/attachment:6a0f4]

:<
Topic Starter
Zorlok_

RandomJibberish wrote:

General
  1. You could do with an easy - I can make you one if you want, just let me know. Please. Do it ;) Thank you.
  2. Replace the bg with this: you won't get the ugly black bars at the top and bottom. Ok
Insane
  1. A lot if your streams (e.g. 01:12:772 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - , pretty much all of them in the chorus etc) don't really follow anything prominent in the music, don't fit the mood of the song and map as a whole and are really just there to add fake difficulty. Keep in mind that maps are fun because they nicely follow the music, not becuase they're as hard as possible.
    I could go and point them all out, but I trust you to go through and fix them up yourself :P Done
  2. The speed changes seem unneccesary and extreme. Remove or lessen them (0.75 and 1.5 are good choices) Done
  3. 02:03:626 (6) - Not sure whiy you don't just start the slider here :P Done
  4. 03:11:919 (1) - End 1/4 earlier Done
Kotya's Hard
  1. No (reasonably sized) breaks?
  2. Same as insane with the streams, and many of the triplets. A hard shouldn't really have much 1/4 at all, let alone random unfitting 1/4 :(
    I reccomend removing all the 1/4 that doesn't follow the lyrics.
  3. The speed changes are unneccesary and unfitting. Lessen or remove them (Again, 0.75 is a good choice)
  4. 02:08:504 (1) - Would fit much better as a slider
  5. 02:13:626 (4,5) - This jump's a little out of the blue
  6. 03:39:480 (1,2) - ^
  7. 02:17:528 (1) - end 1/1 earlier or 2/1 later
  8. 03:03:626 (1,2,3,4) - Okay, most of the streams are pretty bad, bur srsly what
  9. 03:37:528 (6,7,8,9,10) - Very confusing all stacked like this
Done

Normal
  1. Very low difficulty settings for a normal Everything is fine. D:
  2. Mapping on this diff gets a bit square at times - mix up the patterns a bit? Done
  3. 00:47:528 (1,2) - Spaaaacing Done
Thank you~

Colin Hou wrote:

[General]:
  1. tags: Korea remove? Korean would be the genre, but Korea @_@, as Seoul is a city of Korea? Done
[Normal]:
  1. 00:48:138 (2) - spacing Done
  2. 03:18:016 (6) - new combo Done
[Kotya's Hard]:
  1. claps in this diff is a bit random, and I admit Normal has a much better using of claps
  2. 00:57:528 (1,2,3) - ok, at some part of this song like this, following the vocal is a better way ;w;, I mean 00:57:528, 00:57:894, 00:58:260. Done
  3. 01:01:431 (1,2,3) - ^ and there are a lot in this song so meh.. I won't list all of them Done
  4. 00:46:309 (7) - reverse arrow is covered by the hitburst of 00:45:333 (5) Done
  5. 02:17:528 (1) - end this at 02:19:480 Done
  6. 02:21:431 (1,2,3) - spacing Done
  7. 02:38:748 (1,2,3) - ^ Done
[Insane]:
  1. overuse of claps
  2. more than 3 slider speed, so consider to use x0.75 instead of x0.5 sliders Done
  3. 01:44:845 (3) - place this with your shift button down Done
  4. 01:51:431 (6) - ^ Done
  5. 01:55:577 (7) - ^ Done
  6. 02:03:382 (5) - ^Done
  7. 02:46:065 (4) - ^ Done
  8. 02:49:967 (4) - ^ remember to adjust the following ones Done
  9. 03:20:943 (3,4,5) - new combo on 3 and the spacing Done
  10. 03:24:602 (2) - place this with your shift button down Done
  11. 03:25:577 (4) - ^ Done
  12. 03:50:943 (2) - ^ Done
  13. 03:58:992 (3) - ^ Done
  14. 04:01:919 (4,5,6) - spacing Done
Thank you~
star~
IceBeam
На счёт 20 мб - согласен.
Да,по правилам - подходит,но правила не все верно трактуют.Сжимать надо желательно всё,что можно.Я почти уверен,что маты/баты будут придираться.

[Normal]
00:37:528 (2) - Неожиданно и не в ритм как-то,я бы убрал отсюда и поставил на 00:38:260 лучше.
00:43:382 - Для поддержания ритма я бы добавил ноту.
00:53:870 - ^
00:54:114 - ^
00:54:602 - ^
00:55:089 - ^
00:58:992 - ^
01:27:284 (1) - Исправь дистанцию,слишком близко.А вообще,я бы ещё добавил ноту на 01:26:797 с финишом.
01:47:772 - Здесь бы тоже добавил ноток? Хотя бы на 1/1.
01:53:382 - Ноту.
01:53:626 - ^
02:19:480 (1) - Слишком близко,исправь дистанцию.Дальше тебе не дает поставить размер поля,поэтому расположи ближе к центру.
02:58:016 - Ноту?
03:44:845 - ^

Вообщем следовать вокалу - это хорошо,но и про ритм забывать не надо.

[Kotya's Hard]
Апроч рейт слииишком низкий,из-за этого слишком много объектов на экране сразу,нужно поднять.Да и остальные показатели тоже.
Очень много ошибок с дистанцией.
Начиная я самого начала:
00:38:260 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - Тут везде разная дистанция,должна быть одна.
И такое часто по мапе встречается.Желательно хорошо просмотреть всю мапу и исправить каждый объект,который хотя бы визуально кажется не по дистанции.
01:01:919 (2) - Сдвинуть на синий тик(01:01:797) и добавить ещё ноту на 01:01:797 ?
01:09:480 - Такие короткие брейки неранкабельны.Убирай.
01:18:992 (1) - Финиш.
01:22:894 (1) - ^
01:26:797 - ^
01:34:602 (1) - ^
01:48:992 - Тоже слишком короткий брейк.
02:29:236 (1) - Финиш.
02:33:138 (1) - ^
02:37:041 - ^
02:44:845 (1) - ^
02:48:748 (1) - ^
03:01:431 (2) - Слишком близко к предыдущему объекту.Исправь дистанцию.
03:01:431 (2,3,4) - И что с ними вообще? Конец (2)-го слайдера не попадает в тик,и (4)-ый тоже.Исправь.
03:04:114 (3) - Плохо звучит,лучше закончить на 03:04:358.
03:07:041 (1) - Опять дистанция,слишком близко.
03:08:016 (2) - ^ Тоже самое.
03:07:041 (1,2) - Опять окончания слайдеров не снапнуты,заканчивай их на красных/белых тиках.
03:19:967 (1) - Финиш?
03:31:675 (1) - ^
Хлопки не всегда логично расставлены.

[Insane]
00:36:797 (1) - Это прыжок такой?
01:00:699 (5) - Исправь дистанцию.
01:09:236 (1,1,1,1,1) - Комбо спам.
01:14:114 (1,1,1) - ^
01:47:528 - Такие дыры убивают четверть полоски хп.Как и в нормале,я бы посоветовал замапать эти части.
02:19:480 (1,1,1,1,1) - Комбо спам.
02:24:358 (1,1,1) - ^
02:30:211 (3,4,5) - Выдели в новое комбо,иначе дистанция не верна.
03:17:041 (3,4,5) - ^

Звезда.
RukiaChan_old
star ;)
NatsumeRin
Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
when you want to add whistle hitsounds on slider's beats, don't want to save time, just choose the slider and press W... this will change the sound of sliderslider, choose the beats and then add whistle plz. because this problem happens a lot i won't list them

[Normal]
00:43:138 - add a 1/2 slider?
00:47:528 (1,2,3) - change these notes to a circle + 3/4 repeat slider would be better to hit.
01:07:772 (6,7,8) - a 1/1 slider should works fine here.
01:26:309 (9,1) - spacing?
there's not so many "mistakes" in this diff. but the notes was placed not so good and could be more various. (now only straight sliders, 0 or 90 degrees, really boring)

[Kotya's Hard]
00:37:772 (3,4,5,6,7) - change this to sliders? (since it's the first time to get 1/4s)
01:07:284 - 01:11:187 - remove the short break
01:47:041 - 01:50:455 - ^
02:14:358 (5) - too far for a Hard, maybe ctrl+r?
02:17:528 - maybe a spinner here instead of a sudden break?
03:02:162 (4) - sth must be wrong in this part. and 03:04:114 (3), 03:05:821 (8,1,2). i guess you forget a BPM changing timing point.
03:22:406 (7) - 1 grid up nazi.

[Insane]
HP-1
00:45:089 (7,8,9) - just stak all the 3 notes or put 8 somewhere between 7 & 9 plz?
00:57:284 (5,1) - what spacing? and this happens a lot. the rhythm is not changed that much so why the spacing(from 1.2x to 4.0x??)
01:00:333 (4,5) - spacing is wrong and may cause misreading.
01:55:089 (5,6) - spacing
03:13:870 (1) - end 1/2 earlier and mute plz.
03:17:041 (3) - new combo
03:38:992 (7,1) - spacing. no one know it's 0.5x slider before hit it
03:41:675 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - really not good. it's placed kind of random

try to make your maps more various, get more patterns instead of simple linear slider + lots of notes, it should be much better.
jericho2442
you could really do with making an Easy.

Normal

00:38:260 - the space in this combo felt really odd and i kept hitting too soon, maybe add a note here
02:10:699 - again really feels like a note need to be here
03:17:041 (3) - new combo to follow your pattern

Kotya's Hard
this diff needs sooooo much work on it

first off the timing is different, this has 2 timing sections while the other diffs have one
........why is this map not even as long as the Normal....please map it to the end

00:40:455 (2,3,4,5) - (2) and (5) is the identical shaped slider but completely different timing, this is really not advised, when playing its very Hard to notice the different of the speeds fast enough, and thus this plays really bad
00:53:382 (5) - this sliders speed feels too slow :/
00:57:528 (1,2,3) - due to the spacing on the combo before this, it makes this combo very hard to read, this spacing makes the player want to use 1/4 timing even though the pattern is 1/2 respace please
01:01:431 (1,2,3) - timing of these notes play really bad, please follow the vocal like this


02:21:431 (1,2,3) - these need to all be the same spacing atm (1,2) is too close

02:58:992 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - this whole area is completely out of time, once you have fixed the timing you REALLY need to remake everyone of the sliders in this area

this diff needs so much work :/ and i see the guest diff maker has not replied to the last few mods, contact the guest diff maker so this can be fixed up

Insane

00:36:797 (1) - move closer to the (4) before it, the jump feels too far and by moving it closer it helps to make the flow better
00:38:260 - add a note here ;p
00:53:260 (4) - remove this note, really does not suit
01:02:894 (4) - new combo here to split the vocal line change and the spacing, also not keen on the spacing change at the end of this combo
01:12:772 (5) - slider is out of time, need moving forward to 01:12:894 (red tick) and end on 01:13:260
01:14:602 (1) - remove new combo
01:30:699 (1) - not really a good idea to stack this, think about spacing it somewhere else
01:55:089 (5,6,7) - spacing again plays odd due to the huge jump between (5,6) compared to (6,7) when they are the same timing, think about giving them the same spacing
02:10:821 (7,8) - this timing does not really suit very good, it improves a lot of you remove (7) then put a note on 02:10:943 (red tick)
02:24:845 (1) - remove new combo
02:29:236 (1,2,3,4,5) - all these notes have identical spacing but (3,4,5) are double the speed of the others, this really does not play good, i advise you to give them closer spacing or space (1,2) more
02:40:943 (1) - again not the best stacking this, maybe space it somewhere else
03:16:065 (1,2,3,4,5) - plays ok i guess, but again these having the identical spacing yet completely different timing dont really feel good
03:33:626 (4) - new combo for pattern then new combo at 03:36:553 (3) now you see a nice pattern ;)
03:39:480 (1,2) - really played bad as a stack, think about spacing these normally

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ok lot of work i kno, but once you have done all that it will improve the maps, sorry i cant star just yet due to the amount of problems, fix these up and get a few more mods first ;)
RandomJibberish
Topic Starter
Zorlok_

RandomJibberish wrote:

Hi
Thank you ^^

SPOILER
You're a genius! °▼°
RandomJibberish
Uh, the kiai's different on my diff intentionally, and you messed up my hitsounds. Please revert it to how it was :/

Download: Super Junior & SNSD - Seoul Song (Zorlok_) [RJ's Easy].osu

Just a heads up, but it's generally considered impolite to change guest diffs without the original mapper's permission.
Topic Starter
Zorlok_

RandomJibberish wrote:

Uh, the kiai's different on my diff intentionally, and you messed up my hitsounds. Please revert it to how it was :/

[attachment=0:e1143]Super Junior & SNSD - Seoul Song (Zorlok_) [RJ's Easy].osu[/attachment:e1143]

Just a heads up, but it's generally considered impolite to change guest diffs without the original mapper's permission.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Under the rules, kai time should be the same.
Sorry.:<
RandomJibberish
No it shouldn't, there are no rules to that effect - kiai should be consistent within diffs by the same mapper, but guest diffs can have it different :P
deepsea
A bit late mod.
[Insane]
01:00:211 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is a bit ugly and confusing IMO, but anywayi its an insane, so its up to you, just point out.
Sure
Hi :D
I love this song.


[General]
Add tags : Girls' Generation


[RJ's Easy]
01:11:187 - add note with finish?


[Normal]
AR+1
00:38:504 (5) - It seems like on blue tick due to spacing. close to 4


Good luck!
deepsea
Sorry miss one thing.
[Insane] Is 4th slider speed really needed?Think about it and fix or tell me if it is.

EDIT:O___O
wowshakhov
oh shi-
gratz :3
Topic Starter
Zorlok_
:>
batman_old
заебали
Andrea
[Normal]

The tags on this difficulty are different from RJ's Easy and Insane. Please fix them.


[Insane]

00:36:797 (1,2,3,4,5) - Stack is incredibly weird here.
01:12:528 (4,5) - Spacing, too close.
01:19:967 (3) - New combo due to spacing change.
01:23:870 (3) - ^
02:30:211 (3) - ^
02:34:114 (3) - ^
02:38:504 (4,5,6) - Respace this correctly, looks weird how it is now.
03:23:870 (1) - Add a finish.
03:39:480 (1,2) - Move them far from 03:38:992 (7).
03:41:675 (3) - New combo.


And yeah, that's it.
Topic Starter
Zorlok_

osuplayer111 wrote:

[Normal]

The tags on this difficulty are different from RJ's Easy and Insane. Please fix them.


[Insane]

00:36:797 (1,2,3,4,5) - Stack is incredibly weird here.
01:12:528 (4,5) - Spacing, too close.
01:19:967 (3) - New combo due to spacing change.
01:23:870 (3) - ^
02:30:211 (3) - ^
02:34:114 (3) - ^
02:38:504 (4,5,6) - Respace this correctly, looks weird how it is now.
03:23:870 (1) - Add a finish.
03:39:480 (1,2) - Move them far from 03:38:992 (7).
03:41:675 (3) - New combo.


And yeah, that's it.
All, done. Thank you osuplayer111. Please recheck this x3
Andrea
Much better.

Re-Bubbled~
Kyonko Hizara
:)
Topic Starter
Zorlok_

osuplayer111 wrote:

Much better.

Re-Bubbled~
Thank you :<
whymeman
A 768 x 576 may display a bit oddly to some players, but i'm not going to stress on it much since resources can be limited on backgrounds.

[Normal]

00:38:260 (4,5) - Too far apart.

[Insane]

01:19:967 (1,2,3) - Not evenly squared/spaced.
01:23:870 (1,2,3) - Not evenly squared/spaced.
02:34:114 (1,2,3) - Not evenly squared/spaced.
02:44:845 (1,2,3,4,5) - The spacing here is very.... awkward. Its both too far apart and too close from how it is set up.
03:58:992 (3) - New combo here?

Remind me to recheck when you're done.
blissfulyoshi
RJ's Easy:
01:26:553, 02:36:553,and 03:23:867 - the ends of these kiai timing are all synced to different things even though the chorus is very similar each time. (the first one ends a red tick after the last word, the second one end on the last word, and the third one ends a white tick after the last word) I suggest making them consistent with each other

Normal:
Kiai timing between normal and insane are inconsistent, please fix them (popped over this issue)

Normal mod:
00:38:504 (5) - the small jump here is awkward to play
03:33:138 (3,4,5,6) - lower stack leniency to make this look nicer

Combo mod:
02:54:845 (3) - new combo to be consistent with 01:44:602 (1)
03:41:675 (3) - ^

Insane:
00:52:406 (3,4) - please make these sliders more symmetric and have a rounder curve to be more aesthetically pleasing (bad looking big sliders are a lot easier to notice than bad looking small sliders. Even though, I see quite a few small sliders that can be improved, I'll leave the decision to change them up to you.)
02:35:089 (1) - place directly under 02:33:626 (2)?
03:17:041 (1,2,3) and 03:20:943 (1,2,3) - make these both normal spacing or jumps?

Combo mod:
03:50:699 (1,3) - remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 3 to fit the music better?
03:58:504 (1,3) -^

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The only major issue is the kiai sections in normal and insane. RJ set up his kiai sections rather well, so I suggest you follow his pattern after he makes his fix. For now, star. Contact me when you finish changing everything so I can remod and hopefully rebubble. (or you can ask whyme I guess)

Edit: T_T didn't realize whyme already posted. I guess saving a post overnight is not a good thing to do. Remember to do what both of us asked.
Sure

ykcarrot wrote:

[Normal]
00:38:504 (5) - It seems like on blue tick due to spacing. close to 4

whymeman wrote:

[Normal]
00:38:260 (4,5) - Too far apart.

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Normal:
Normal mod:
00:38:504 (5) - the small jump here is awkward to play
Why you ignore me? :(
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