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keremaru
wonder how stating lynching on first day was too early made me sus for mafioso, but ok. anything can be sus on first two days tbf
abraker

Husa wrote:

need more information qwq
you get info by accusing others or mafia. The price? You are now mafia according to everyone else.
cravenfiner

keremal wrote:

anything can be sus on first two days tbf

i agree with this
abraker
*you get info by accusing others of mafia
Penguin
so what's the plan?
abraker

sakura wrote:

i will randomize roles for every player in the game until there's at least 50% town players and at least 1 anti town player, i will continue to randomize until at least something's balanced and/or fun

I doubt 1 mafia vs 7 townies will make things balanced. That is because there is 1/8 chance you can lynch mafia day 1 and that will be end of game. That's not really fun. 3 mafia will be hellish because in worst case scenario you can get a townie lynched and another killed at night, making it 2 vs 3 by day two. To make things interesting, there could a third-party. But yea, 2 mafia is what we should be up against.

Given that, let's look at the vote list:

  • Voting: abraker, Death, keremal, Penguin
    Not voting: cravenfinder, Westonini, GuyInFreezer, Husa


I'd say there are good odds that there is one scum in the voting group and one scum in the not voting group.
abraker
My bad make 3 vs 3 if there are 3 mafia. Was thinking of 4 townie vs 3 mafia starting, which isn't right. That combo can also work. So make that 2-3 mafia in this game.
abraker
but I highly doubt 3. Will be surprised if so
Penguin
I agree with the 2 mafia theory. Maybe 2 mafia, 1 neutral makes the most sense?
Westonini
That's what I was thinking.
cravenfiner
sounds like a good estimate
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.7
Westonini (1) - abraker
Penguin (1) - Death
Death (1) - keremal
abraker (1) - Penguin

Not Voting (4) - cravenfinder, Westonini, GuyInFreezer, Husa
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 8th 2019 - 5:22 PM EST
Since it was brought up at some point, no this isnt plurality lynch, it's majority lynch, i've never been a fan of plurality
Topic Starter
Sakura
Less than 72 hours remaining
Westonini
I'm not even sure if anyone would recieve enough votes to be lynched by the Day 1 deadline.
abraker
it's high probability we will end up lynching town day 1
If it's a townie power role that ends up lynched, that is a whole lot of bad
If we don't, day 2 it will be 5 vs 2 instead of 4 vs 2

I'm ok with no-lynch for now
Penguin

abraker wrote:

it's high probability we will end up lynching town day 1
If it's a townie power role that ends up lynched, that is a whole lot of bad
If we don't, day 2 it will be 5 vs 2 instead of 4 vs 2

I'm ok with no-lynch for now
I agree
Penguin
The only thing I can think of is that we could possibly have a killing third party. If so, then we would be 3/6 town on day one if the third party kills town. It could work in our favor though if the third party kills mafia.
Westonini
Is there really anything we can do after the end of the first night phase other than rely on someone who has the ability to investigate others? Regardless of who and how many people die, the murderers could really be anyone. There's no hard evidence. If we have no one with the ability to investigate, the only thing we could continue doing is having conversations and pointing fingers. And that doesn't seem like a very reliable method for finding the baddies, especially since only a few of us talk. Sure if one person dies you could immediately become suspicious of someone else, but ultimately their death could have been caused by anyone.
abraker
Well it's not so simple. Even if someone can investigate, only they will know the person's role. Also how sure are you are you there is a third party on this game?
Westonini

abraker wrote:

Well it's not so simple. Even if someone can investigate, only they will know the person's role.

Right. But even then in most cases it's not like they're able to share who-is-who unless they want to die during the next night phase. I'm thinking they'd just attempt to help nudge the suspicions away from anyone they know is innocent.

abraker wrote:

Also how sure are you are you there is a third party on this game?

I'm not. It just seems likely. I'm almost certain there are at least two mafia members though.
Penguin
We could all just no vote if we want to skip ahead.

vote: No Vote

Up to you guys. If you think abrakers plan is good or not.
Westonini
That's fine.

Vote: No Lynch
abraker
vote: no-lynch

this no-lynch guy is definitely mafia, yes
cravenfiner
hope death notices so keremal doesnt get lynched
abraker
This is interesting because if Death is mafia, he can just "forget" and it would be a valid excuse for him not to be lynched for lynching keremal
Westonini

cravenfiner wrote:

hope death notices so keremal doesnt get lynched


Isn't Death the one getting voted on by keremal? Death voted to lynch Penguin. Either way we'd need a majority vote for a lynch anyways.
Penguin

Westonini wrote:

cravenfiner wrote:

hope death notices so keremal doesnt get lynched
Isn't Death the one getting voted on by keremal? Death voted to lynch Penguin. Either way we'd need a majority vote for a lynch anyways.
yes, this is true. At the moment, there will not be a lynch
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.8
Penguin (1) - Death
Death (1) - keremal

[L-2] No Lynch (3) - Penguin, Westonini, abraker

Not Voting (3) - cravenfinder, GuyInFreezer, Husa
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 8th 2019 - 5:22 PM EST
Less than 48 hours remaining
Death
Vote: No Lynch

"Votes in play" includes no lynch votes, right? Otherwise, I'm dead lol
Penguin

Death wrote:

Vote: No Lynch

"Votes in play" includes no lynch votes, right? Otherwise, I'm dead lol
That's not how the voting system works. We need a majority (5) to lynch atm. If there's not a majority by the end of the day, no lynch will occur.
Penguin
The way you're thinking is played in some rulesets, but not this one
Topic Starter
Sakura
"Votes in play" refers to when the ammount of votes is different than the ammount of players (Voteless, double voters, etc), however this shouldn't be the case for great idea mafia, it should just straight up be the ammount of players, i missed it after reusing my ruleset and will change it to players, sorry if this caused confusion
Topic Starter
Sakura
keremal, Husa and GuyInFreezer have been prodded
abraker
ok I think now is the best time as any to make up a secret code that only town people will understand
that way the cop can tell town what's up
GuyInFreezer
Oh yeah this game
I'll read up by evening.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Less than 24 hours remaining
keremaru

abraker wrote:

ok I think now is the best time as any to make up a secret code that only town people will understand
that way the cop can tell town what's up
the only issue is telling which players are townies and how to get the information to them, since we can't exactly say "hey townies, the code word we're using is 'fubbernugget'." it'd either have to be a system of trusting and half-assed luck, since we can't expose our roles either since then the mafioso would be able to kill everyone.
abraker
hey, that's better than nothing
Penguin

keremal wrote:

abraker wrote:

ok I think now is the best time as any to make up a secret code that only town people will understand
that way the cop can tell town what's up
the only issue is telling which players are townies and how to get the information to them, since we can't exactly say "hey townies, the code word we're using is 'fubbernugget'." it'd either have to be a system of trusting and half-assed luck, since we can't expose our roles either since then the mafioso would be able to kill everyone.
Well, if someone has information that without a doubt shows them who mafia is, then it's better to come forth with it imo. I haven't played forum mafia at all, but in IRC mafia, a quiet town is a dead town.
abraker
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