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I agree! I should've just linked your profile instead of pasting the definition tbhMeah wrote:
I'm moe
Penguin wrote:
oh boy... can't tell if you're actually retarded or trying to bait me
Penguin wrote:
Pedophile and lolicon mean the exact same thing, there is no line lmao. The only real difference is that the word lolicon is mostly referred to when it comes to anime/hentai and stuff in Japanese culture. People just try to downplay the fact that they're sexually objectifying prepubescent girls by saying "but its just cartoons!!!!"Winnyace wrote:
OPINION ALERT: the line between lolicon and pedophile is fragile. very fragile. but, if the line isn't crossed, then there isn't a problem to have here.Penguin wrote:
oh boy... can't tell if you're actually retarded or trying to bait meBrainage wrote:
well it depends on your gender and the loli's gender. also it's not pedophilia to those who mentioned it, loli is a body type not an age thing.Winnyace wrote:
my friends tell me I'm gay bc I like lolis. what should I do?
no a loli is a age thing most of the time. there are characters over 18 years old that look and act like a child tho.
The word "lolicon" (lolita complex) comes from a book written by Vladimir Nabokov called Lolita. It's a book about a middle-aged man that becomes sexually obsessed with a twelve-year-old girl. That's called pedophilia.
and don't get me started with the "argument/loophole" where the character is actually 100 years old or some shit. It doesn't change the fact that it's still a prepubescent child. IMO people who try to use that excuse are delusional.
...Winnyace wrote:
I myself have crossed this line but this is another can of worms
Penguin wrote:
...Winnyace wrote:
I myself have crossed this line but this is another can of worms
Brainage wrote:
Penguin wrote:
oh boy... can't tell if you're actually retarded or trying to bait me
50% of people say it's an attraction to young-looking girls, 50% say it's where the female in question is prepubescent so i'll let you decide on that one
Westonini wrote:
I'd like to think that most lolicons aren't into lolis because they're prepubescent girls, but perhaps instead it's because of their cuteness factor.
true.abraker wrote:
you had none to begin with
which means you now have negative reputation
Could you explain what NTR is? I tried looking up a definition, but I'm getting mixed answers.tad01123 wrote:
Ok, next discussion: Is it ok to like NTR?
I have a friend who said he likes NTR.
At first I thought maybe it's just he just have the fetish of liking heroines getting violated by disgusting looking dudes but he actually confessed that he imagines to be the guys who're getting NTR'd.
Did I just lost a friend to the depths of the internet?
Can I still save him?
Here's the most correct one I found.Penguin wrote:
Could you explain what NTR is? I tried looking up a definition, but I'm getting mixed answers.tad01123 wrote:
Ok, next discussion: Is it ok to like NTR?
I have a friend who said he likes NTR.
At first I thought maybe it's just he just have the fetish of liking heroines getting violated by disgusting looking dudes but he actually confessed that he imagines to be the guys who're getting NTR'd.
Did I just lost a friend to the depths of the internet?
Can I still save him?
The first one.Penguin wrote:
Okay, I think I understand now. So your friend likes to imagine he's the one who's getting his Significant other taken away from him? Or does he imagine he's the one taking?
Hmm. Okay, so he's basically into being a cuckold. I don't see anything inherently wrong with liking NTR I guess. While it is kind of odd, it's not illegal. I mean, unless there's a rape aspect to the stuff he likes watching, then I'm not sure. As long as it's a fantasy video and not real, then I guess there's no real problem. Just very very strange.tad01123 wrote:
The first one.Penguin wrote:
Okay, I think I understand now. So your friend likes to imagine he's the one who's getting his Significant other taken away from him? Or does he imagine he's the one taking?
The second one if often called reverse NTR.
Westonini wrote:
I'd like to think that most lolicons aren't into lolis because they're prepubescent girls, but perhaps instead it's because of their cuteness factor. They may be attracted to solely the cuteness of a quirky anime character but would be appalled by the thought of being attracted to an underage girl in real life because they don't see them anywhere near as cute if at all (their morals would also obviously play a factor). These anime characters were meant to be drawn up as being very cute and innocent just so they're likable by the viewers, but I'm thinking that some people may like this cuteness a bit.. more than others. But even so, if that's the case then I don't really care.
However if they're into lolis and find real life little girls cute then I start to get a bit suspicious..
I dunno, I just tend to avoid calling people pedophiles if they're into lolis because I don't know what's going through their heads and they may not see things the way I think they are (such as the example I mentioned above). Unless of course I know for a fact that they're actually attracted to young children, then that shits disgusting and I will definitely call them out on that.
I don't actually know anyone who's a lolicon, or have at least told me openly, so this is all pretty much just speculation since I've never been able to ask one what their reasons are for being one.
that's exactly y I like this type of shit. I like the adult one too ofc. thx for actually given me and the rest of lolicons a bit of understanding of this.Westonini wrote:
What I was trying to get at is that some may be sexually attracted to things that they perceive as cute, with lolis just being something that they see as cute. So therefore, the reason they're sexually attracted to them isn't because they're young, but because they're cute. If that's the case, what if they find cuteness from art of drawn 2D characters which the artists purposefully drew to be very cute, but don't find cuteness from actual children? I'm betting that a good amount of people who are sexually attracted to lolis are also attracted to adult anime characters as well, because its in the same cute anime art form.
I'm getting a weird, uncomfortable vibe now from this lolicon discussion so I think I'll just stop it here. And hopefully you aren't getting the wrong idea, I'm not saying I'm right about this or anything, this is just a theory that crossed my mind and I thought it'd be an interesting idea to think about. It's just that it seems like there are so many people out there that consider themselves to be lolicons, and with that amount of people I'd hope the reason that most have to like lolis isn't because of the age, but instead some other reason I'm just not seeing on the surface. Maybe I'm just being too optimistic though.
I think he's just fine. if he knows that's just a game, I don't see the problem. I believe he just wants a girlfriend but bc of his likes he doesn't have other option than that play these games. I played one myself and I enjoyed a bit of the experince, but not enough to continue.tad01123 wrote:
Ok, next discussion: Is it ok to like NTR?
I have a friend who said he likes NTR.
At first I thought maybe it's just he just have the fetish of liking heroines getting violated by disgusting looking dudes but he actually confessed that he imagines to be the guys who're getting NTR'd.
Did I just lost a friend to the depths of the internet?
Can I still save him?
Listen. You're still pretty young, and I understand that young people have peculiar interests that they grow out of usually. I had some weird interests when I was that age (nothing nearly comparable to lolicons). I really recommend that you try and stray away from your current interests in lolis. It's not healthy for someone to have sexual interests in such a thing. It will stunt your capability of forming real-world relationships (intimate and/or normal) with people. I don't know the specifics on laws in your country, so I can't really speak on that matter.Winnyace wrote:
I like them because of that, but I'm in this weird spot where I like them bc of their cuteness and innocent only with the not so innocent factor of sexual intercourse.
Penguin wrote:
Listen. You're still pretty young, and I understand that young people have peculiar interests that they grow out of usually. I had some weird interests when I was that age (nothing nearly comparable to lolicons). I really recommend that you try and stray away from your current interests in lolis. It's not healthy for someone to have sexual interests in such a thing. It will stunt your capability of forming real-world relationships (intimate and/or normal) with people. I don't know the specifics on laws in your country, so I can't really speak on that matter.Winnyace wrote:
I like them because of that, but I'm in this weird spot where I like them bc of their cuteness and innocent only with the not so innocent factor of sexual intercourse.
I'm gonna leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owa5KcQ9Mxc&feature=youtu.be
sweet then.johnmedina999 wrote:
I'm glad you're taking what I said in a positive way. I never mean for my words to disrespect nor slander anyone etc etc, so to hear your're getting something good out of this makes me happy. I hope that you continue to better yourself and if you ever need someone to chat with, hit me up.Winnyace wrote:
I completely understand ur worries. I'm actually surprised that you're worrying about me. I had a folder full folder of hentai of both lolis and normal alike. Seeing your post, it made think a bit of how act and I realised just how bad I acted and what type of person I've become. Today I had an episode of mild depression like I always do. For a hour or so, I'll just in bed thinking what I've wrong to deserve being called weird. After that one hour, I went to my friends and posted my new findings. I knew about this, but I just couldn't help myself. It made realise that I'm the problem, not others. I deleted my hentai folder full of 300+ images of stuff I shouldn't really see at this age, including the loli shit. I don't think that my normal loli folder I also have is bad, but we shall see if makes me come back to the bad state. I'm not kidding or baiting right now. I actually thought of that, although rather quickly but now, that folder it's gone.
I agree with this viewpoint for the most part. There's a point to where it becomes creepy and weird though. I don't believe that a 30-year-old man should be obsessively interested in things pertaining to the "loli artform", even if they aren't sexual. Mind you, that's just an example and personal belief.abraker wrote:
I interpret the imagery of lolis the same way I interpret a gif of a cute kitten, but If you are touching ecchi/hentai territory, then what Penguin said has quite some weight.
thx a lot m8Penguin wrote:
I'm glad you're taking what I said in a positive way. I never mean for my words to disrespect nor slander anyone etc etc, so to hear your're getting something good out of this makes me happy. I hope that you continue to better yourself and if you ever need someone to chat with, hit me up.
johnmedina999 wrote:
Westonini wrote:
Also is that from the Neopet forums or something? That ava in the pic is a neopet.