assassincread wrote:

03:30:703 (7) - 這顆的距離太大造成你要強調的03:30:909 (1,2) - 失去應該要有的效果。是我的話會弄類似這樣 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10631934

assassincread wrote:

assassincread wrote:

03:30:703 (7) - 這顆的距離太大造成你要強調的03:30:909 (1,2) - 失去應該要有的效果。是我的話會弄類似這樣 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10631934

這個的意思是說03:30:292 (6,7) - 的距離太大，反而強調不出03:30:909 (1,2) - 的重音，所以我的示意圖是把(7)拉近然後重新擺03:30:909 (1,2) - 讓間距有所區別~
補充說明這個而來xD

Misure wrote:

sry for late

[We Were Here]

1. 01:33:593 - 好像不需要finish 后面也是 感觉两组一个finish就ok 我觉得挺带感的，不过还是看看后来人的意见
   
2. 06:11:446 (2) - 这里不该finish吧 这个finish配合前面的whistle会比较好听，所以是故意的。不过之后多加了几个whistle来突出此

nothing else to say, 稳定
Good luck

assassincread wrote:

from my queue ~


[我們曾在這]


01:22:022 (3) - 尾部的drum sample sound去掉，這個和你要跟的音不一樣 fixed

04:43:022 - 這個部分的drum-hitnormal4作為基底音效很不合適，原因是像04:43:530 - 04:44:138 - 04:44:544 - 04:44:950 - 這種滑條尾部多餘的音就會被很清楚聽到，選擇這種基底音效也要想到滑條尾部音效的處理，如果真要繼續用那就是把多餘的音都靜音掉，不然真的很影響聽覺感受 fixed by adding 10%+soft

Josh123uaJ wrote:

Ayy from q.

We Were Here:
01:32:307 (2,3,4) - I'd make this and other similar triples have a little bit less spacing since it shares the same spacing as 01:44:950 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) but that part has stronger drum sounds. i used spacing triple in every "is the" vocal so i think it's a stable pattern, needn't make a change
01:35:307 (1) - I don't get why this is the only slider in that song that has an anchor. Maybe have anchors in sliders such as 01:40:450 (1) and 01:54:165 (1) since a strong guitar note is being emphasized by the music.i don't know why either but i think it doesn't matter, because no obvious problem if i still use a slider with a anchor
01:47:736 (2) - Small aesthetic suggestion: Make this blanket more to the last slider's head to make it look a little better. fixed
02:19:450 (2) - Small aesthetic suggestion: Make this more curvy like 02:19:022 (1) to make it a bit more appealing.fixed
03:09:744 (1) - From this point in this song, you don't build up spacing for the 5 note streams anymore. Why is that? because vocal is a little stronger than drum but i still follow drum, so the spacing can be a little more stable than before imo
04:52:760 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I'd prefer if this builds up spacing due to increasing volume. fixed
05:27:641 (1,2,3,4) - Make it a back and forth like 05:26:025 (1,2,3,4). I liked the pattern switching that was going on. 05:26:025 (1,2,3,4) - at this piont, 05:26:025 (1,2) - 05:26:429 (3,4) - is the same, 05:26:227 (2,4) - is the same, but 05:27:843 (2,3,4) - at this point, 05:27:843 (2,4) - not the same, 05:28:247 (4) - is lower than 05:27:843 (2) - so i don't use the same pattern like before
05:51:784 (1) - Imo, it feels like the shape doesn't belong here. Vocal is pretty clean here. Same with 06:03:946 (3). fixed
08:11:717 (1,2,3,4) - In this stream, the guitar notes get higher pitched. You only build up space from 08:11:325 (1,2,3,4) while the rest stays the same space. I think for these particular 4 notes, you could be have like .60 spacing and then the next four notes you could have the spacing be .80x and then the last four notes could be 1.0x spacing (just at least build some spacing here for the guitar notes). i think it doesn't matter but this is a nice advice :^)
08:45:951 (3,5,7) - I don't think ncs are rly necessary (idk y, it just feels unnecessary for me) i think a strong vocal need a nc

Holy shit nice songs. I'd really like to see this ranked.

z1085684963 wrote:

06:19:351 (6,6,6) - nc plz no
audioleadin 0->2000 fixed
宽屏支持 fixed
combo color这么少，学学人家Anhedonia fixed
怎么不是v2，我要死了

KaedekaShizuru wrote:

瞎JB掰几句
06:19:351 (6) - 改slider甩向06:19:757 (1,2)
06:22:594 (6) - ↑
06:29:081 (1) - ↑
06:32:324 (6) - ↑ 这几个作图的时候就试过了，感觉滑条没有圈这么好
06:51:986 (2) - 建议从这里NC 感觉nc不如放到finish这种地方好一点
08:10:345 (1,2) - 不应是连打而是短滑条 吉他音应该比较明显的有一个转音，感觉其实这两种都可以，不过短滑条的话我可能没有一个好地方去塞了
09:46:094 (1,2) - 这组与09:46:835 (4,5) 不同 我认为应该放跳而不是叠 就是因为不同所以我才变了一下间距啊
09:50:538 (1,2) - ↑ 这个我感觉可以不改因为后面是kiai和大跳，先小跳一个应该没什么问题
10:37:478 (4,1) - 变间距应该从这俩之间就开始要体现了 顺便这整个串的后半不做点间距变化吗
10:50:071 (4,1) - ↑ 个人比较喜欢每4个圈换一下间距角度这种，间距换的太频繁感觉有点影响串的整体
11:07:571 (1,1) - http://puu.sh/A4liJ/acee4b12e4.jpg
最后一首听过啊 也是你的图 怀念
美丽

TT Mouse wrote:

02:54:950 (1,2,3,4) - 这串ds怎么减了。 感觉前面这么大一个间距的滑条之后可以放一个间距小一点的串缓一下

06:16:108 (1) - 往左移一点，钝角有点小卡手 √

07:26:236 (3) - 滑条尾巴加点音效？原曲有轻微鼓擦，建议whistle，改的话别忘了后面 大湿说不需要

clear worker

1. I feel like the HP is a bit low, while playtesting my HP didnt go down at all, even tho i did miss a couple times.
2. MA says that soft-sliderslide2.wav, soft-sliderslide3.wav and soft-sliderslide5.wav are unused, you can delete these if its true
3. you should lower the stack leniency to 5 or 6 so you avoid unnecessary stacks like this: 02:19:450 (2,2) -

1. 00:09:978 (1,2,3) - i feel like that this rhythm: https://puu.sh/A8Sfu/3deb2a77bc.png fits a lot better with the vocals then the 1 beat slider
2. 00:35:379 (1) - maybe make this 0.9x sv for a more graduate increase?
3. 00:41:510 (1,2,3,4) - suggest doing this like so: https://puu.sh/A8SkT/e71c427075.png so you emphasize the drum on (3) the same as (1)
4. 00:44:138 (1,2,3,4) - you should increase the spacing here a bit because of the sound change
5. 01:04:503 (2,3,4) - space these a bit more, it has a stronger sound than 01:04:065 (4,5,1) - so its a bit weird that these 2 have the same spacing

1. 02:36:868 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - why are these spaced differently? i dont really see anything different between the 2, same with the slider on (5)

1. 03:45:485 (2) - maybe space this out a bit more because of the drum on it? same for 03:46:093 (2,3) -
2. 03:59:674 (1,2,3,4) - i think its better to position these like so: https://puu.sh/A8SHa/ce6c35bf26.png then you emphasize the white ticks poperly because right now it seems you try to emphasize the red ticks with how they are positioned

1. 04:52:760 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - graduate increase in spacing because of the volume increase here?
2. 04:55:195 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - same for this?
3. 05:25:217 (1,2,3,4) - why do you give (1) so much spacing even tho (3) is a much stronger sound?
4. 05:34:928 (1) - this really isnt that strong of a note, so this should have a much lesser spacing then the notes before it

1. 06:27:865 (3,4,3,4) - you should make this the same as 06:27:459 (1,2,1,2) - because (4) really doesnt have a strong sound at all, espacially how much you spaced 06:28:067 (4) - from (3) really isnt right, you can even make (3) a slider
2. 06:31:108 (1,2,3) - why is this a triple? there is no sound on the blue tick and its seems the same as 06:30:297 (4,5) - these patterns

1. 07:23:884 (1,1,1,1,1) - i dont think NC'ing these all is necessary because there is no real change in sv or way of mapping thats needs a visual queue
2. 07:37:802 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - you should make this stream so it has a bit more curvation
3. 08:02:700 (1,2,3,4) - why does this part have more spacing than 08:01:915 (1,2,3,4) - ? if anything you should make 08:02:307 (1,2,3,4) - have more spacing because its the one that is different from the rest
4. 08:04:562 (5,6) - fix stack

1. 09:24:720 - you should silence this spinners end
   Full version when :^)

1. 11:06:830 (1,1,1,1) - same on She Is My Sin i dont think these need to be all NC'ed, except for the first one i didnt mention because of the SV increase
   God i love this song, amazing

Senery wrote:

Hi, M4M from my queue

[General]

1. I feel like the HP is a bit low, while playtesting my HP didnt go down at all, even tho i did miss a couple times. i think hp5.2 is not too low for a 11min marathon...
2. you should lower the stack leniency to 5 or 6 so you avoid unnecessary stacks like this: 02:19:450 (2,2) - i adjusted this to 5 but it still stack...i think it doesn't matter to read this stack...

[Edema Ruh]

1. 00:09:978 (1,2,3) - i feel like that this rhythm: https://puu.sh/A8Sfu/3deb2a77bc.png fits a lot better with the vocals then the 1 beat slider i dont wanna 00:10:854 (3) - this whistle appeared at a slider's end, i think i need a circle to reflect this whistle
2. 00:35:379 (1) - maybe make this 0.9x sv for a more graduate increase? it works
3. 00:41:510 (1,2,3,4) - suggest doing this like so: https://puu.sh/A8SkT/e71c427075.png so you emphasize the drum on (3) the same as (1) i followed piano here...
4. 00:44:138 (1,2,3,4) - you should increase the spacing here a bit because of the sound change yes i have been increase this spacing i think
5. 01:04:503 (2,3,4) - space these a bit more, it has a stronger sound than 01:04:065 (4,5,1) - so its a bit weird that these 2 have the same spacingi think it doesn't matter for a triple's spacing, because 01:04:065 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - it's continuity, so in most case i will not change this scaping because it is more smooth when playing imo

[Planet Hell]

1. 02:36:868 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - why are these spaced differently? i dont really see anything different between the 2, same with the slider on (5)02:38:306 (10,1) - this spacing is bigger than 02:36:662 (7,1) - so i use bigger ds in stream too

[Alpenglow]

1. 03:45:485 (2) - maybe space this out a bit more because of the drum on it? same for 03:46:093 (2,3) - ok fixed
2. 03:59:674 (1,2,3,4) - i think its better to position these like so: https://puu.sh/A8SHa/ce6c35bf26.png then you emphasize the white ticks poperly because right now it seems you try to emphasize the red ticks with how they are positioned 03:59:471 (3,2) - this two stack looks not good, i don't like this stack, i think pattern now is more smooth to play

[Ever Dream]

1. 04:52:760 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - graduate increase in spacing because of the volume increase here? ok fixed
2. 04:55:195 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - same for this? i don't like incarese spacing when 1/4 stream, 1/2 is ok
3. 05:25:217 (1,2,3,4) - why do you give (1) so much spacing even tho (3) is a much stronger sound? according to music, 05:25:419 (2,3,4) - is a pattern i think but 05:25:217 (1) - not belong to this pattern, so i fall apart 05:25:217 (1) - from 05:25:419 (2,3,4) -
4. 05:34:928 (1) - this really isnt that strong of a note, so this should have a much lesser spacing then the notes before itok fixed

[Bye Bye Beautiful]

1. 06:27:865 (3,4,3,4) - you should make this the same as 06:27:459 (1,2,1,2) - because (4) really doesnt have a strong sound at all, espacially how much you spaced 06:28:067 (4) - from (3) really isnt right, you can even make (3) a slider ok changed a little
2. 06:31:108 (1,2,3) - why is this a triple? there is no sound on the blue tick and its seems the same as 06:30:297 (4,5) - these patterns 06:31:108 (1,2,3) - vocal here is "just to", 3 tones

[She Is My Sin]

1. 07:23:884 (1,1,1,1,1) - i dont think NC'ing these all is necessary because there is no real change in sv or way of mapping thats needs a visual queue 5 slider's start ia the same strength, and they are all strong, so i think it worth to use a nc
2. 07:37:802 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - you should make this stream so it has a bit more curvation 07:37:802 (2,3) - 07:37:998 (4,5,6,7,1) - this two drumbeat is not the same, have a lillte difference, so i set this shape a lillte bent
3. 08:02:700 (1,2,3,4) - why does this part have more spacing than 08:01:915 (1,2,3,4) - ? if anything you should make 08:02:307 (1,2,3,4) - have more spacing because its the one that is different from the rest fixed but i still think it doesn't matter...
4. 08:04:562 (5,6) - fix stack stacked

[The Greatest Show On Earth]

1. 09:24:720 - you should silence this spinners end ok fixed
   Full version when :^) maybe 2019 idk lol

[Last Ride of the Day]

1. 11:06:830 (1,1,1,1) - same on She Is My Sin i dont think these need to be all NC'ed, except for the first one i didnt mention because of the SV increase
   God i love this song, amazing

Hope it helps! The songs i didnt mention were fine, good luck!

smallboat wrote:

[We Were Here]

沒有應用到的音效 : soft-sliderslide2.wav 07:26:236 (3) - appears here, probably it is a bug with AIBat
和 soft-sliderslide3.wav 05:46:919 (1) -


音效小於5ms (不能使用的) :
soft-hitfinish5.wav 也是检查器出bug了大概，因为从goldwave看，soft-hitfinish5.wav实际长度3.63796秒

05:21:162 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 跟背景音樂比較這有點太響了? 好的，大概改成45%
08:10:345 (1,2) - 這兒用whistle音效表達背景音效似乎不太適合 有意强调，感觉用whistle听得要更带感一些
08:13:090 (2,3,4,5) - 同05:21:162 ok

pw384 wrote:

gratz!!

Yumeno Himiko wrote:

goubi

Mirash wrote:

00:39:759 (1,1,1) - no feedback on those downbeat drums feels so cringe lol, could be nice if you drum sampleset them
02:16:879 (3) - missing whistle
02:22:236 (4) - you seem to be following guitar with drum sampleset here, so placing drum sampleset on 02:22:665 (5) - would be nice, right now it sounds empty
03:24:539 (1) - place at least drum sampleset on it
06:53:202 (2) - this should be a drum finish and not a soft whistle, just listen to that drum. also 06:53:405 (3) - 06:54:216 (1) - 06:54:824 (3) - and 06:54:013 (3) - could be drum clap for some rhythm variety. anyway look up this end of section i think it really needs stronger hitsounding feedback
11:06:830 (1,1) - 11:07:571 (1,1) - stacks are broken but thats whatever just pointing out

aside from section on 7 minute this is a good map

Shovan wrote:

Just wanted to ask you if there was any reason behind 06:31:209 (2) - ? It seems to me to only be there to confuse players. Barely any notable sound and the similar vocal sections before (example 06:29:486 (1,2) - ) were always done with 2 circles and not 3...

Aside from that it's a rather nice map and thanks for sharing the Nightwish love OwO

EncoreW wrote:

because of vocal

Shovan wrote:

EncoreW wrote:

because of vocal

That's what i meant with the comparison to other sections. There are clear vocals on the white and red tick of that section, just like for other vocals, but the blue tick is barely notable.

06:24:216 (1,2) - The word is "Listen". White Tick is "Lis", Blue Tick is a held "s" leading into the next syllable. Red tick is "-ten".
06:29:486 (1,2) - White Tick is the impact of the word "Did". The second half of the word (the second "d") is already on the blue tick. The red Tick is "We".
06:31:108 (1,2,3) - White Tick is the impact of the word "Just". The second half of the word (the held "s" that leads in to the next word "t") is already on the blue tick. The red Tick is "to"

Those three sections have the exact same vocal structure to me, but are mapped differently. It is fine to do it with 3 notes, but it is weird because it is done with 2 notes before.

So new question: What is different at 06:31:108 (1,2,3) - that made you put 3 circles? For me the vocals have the same structure.

EncoreW wrote:

06:31:108 (1) - ju 06:31:209 (2) - s 06:31:311 (3) - t to

pw384 wrote:

Hey men mapping is a perceptual activity of human being so it's not a necessity to be picky on things related to such trivial consistency

Shovan wrote:

pw384 wrote:

Hey men mapping is a perceptual activity of human being so it's not a necessity to be picky on things related to such trivial consistency

If you think the existance of a hitobject is trivial then I guess we will never share the same opinion. That being said I'm fully aware that mapping has a lot to do with individual perception
of a song and all I did above was state my perception of the song.