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_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

Joined March 2015

_yu68 2017-10-22T00:24:08+00:00

I had been forgetting to post osu file

osu file format v14

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Dapulezatos

317 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Dapulezatos 2017-10-22T06:57:38+00:00

Ok all updated.

Sorry I didn't update it before. Because I had a problem when running osu in Ubuntu 16.04

Sanyi

236 posts

Joined November 2015

Sanyi 2017-10-29T12:52:10+00:00

NO KUDOSU! Recheck on Platter and Rain.

General: Rework your NCs please, they should be on every downbeat (= on every big white tick)

Platter

00:04:050 (2,3,4) - There is no strict definition of what antiflow is, but for me that's antiflow. I also talked with Benny- about it and he agreed that the distance between 00:04:500 (3) - and 00:04:800 (4) - is too far. Therefore I recommend you to move 00:04:800 (4) - more to the right, I think x:288 should be enough. Make sure to move 00:05:400 (6) - to x:288 as well so that the distances in 00:04:500 (3,4,5,6,7) - are consistent. The same suggestion goes for 00:32:850 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - .
00:07:200 (4) - This slider covers really minor sounds in comparison to the previous two sliders but provides the exact same gameplay which feels weird. Moving 00:07:200 (4) - to x:64 and flipping the whole map that comes after that slider emphasizes the music much better and provides nice gameplay as well. The same suggestion goes for 00:36:000 (4) - .
00:08:250 (6,1,2) - That is hyperdash into antiflow for me as well, moving 00:08:700 (2) - to x:224 should seal the deal here.
00:15:150 (7,8,1) - I don't like the emphasizing choice here, making a big gap from 00:15:150 (7) - to 00:15:450 (8) - and no gap at all from 00:15:450 (8) - to 00:15:600 (1) - even though 00:15:600 (1) - is a downbeat. I think it would make rhythm-wise much more sense to make the first gap small and the second one big so that you have the dash to the downbeat instead to the note before the downbeat.
00:20:100 (8) - Should be snapped to 00:20:250 - to land on the important sound. You did the same at 00:15:450 (8) - . You can make then a hyperdash to 00:20:400 (1) - , fits the start of the kiai well.
00:20:400 (1) - Is inconsistent with the rest of the kiai, there should be a gap at 00:20:550 - like you did everywhere else afterwards, so make 00:20:400 (1) - a single note and start the next object at 00:20:700 - to fix that. In general I think it would be better to be more consistent in the kiai with your usage of 1/2 sliders and repeat sliders, it is not 100% consistent with that.
00:21:300 (3,4,1) - Plays weird imo, because you need to slow down after the hyperdash because otherwise you move to far right to catch the next fruit.
It is also inconsistent with the rest of the kiai since in the whole kiai you've made a direction of movement change right after a hyper but not here. Therefore I recommend you to flip 00:21:900 (1) - and move it to x:176 to create a better flow and to keep consistency with the rest of the kiai.
00:22:500 (3,4,1) - Hyperdash into antiflow again, you need to move 00:23:100 (1) - to x:288 to fix that.
00:25:200 (4,1,2,3) - You move the whole time from left to right, which is boring and inconsistent with previous parts at the same time. Please make some movement changes in this section like you did every time beforehand.
00:26:700 (1) - Please move it to x:336 to avoid antiflow after a hyperdash again.
00:27:900 (1) - Same here, move it to x:176.
00:28:800 (4,5) - Distance is way to big this time, you need to move 00:29:100 (5) - to x:320 to avoid antiflow.

Rain

General: The Rain itself has huge problems with emphasis in my opinion. I personally think that reworking it again (or searching for a guest diff) is the way to go. Since it would take forever to point out everything, I will just point out some major stuff with one example each. The things that I will point out has to be fixed in the whole diff though (and not only at the spot I used as an example), so it is your job to go through the whole song/diff and search for similar problems. If you need any help or have any questions don't hesitate to ask me!

00:02:400 - Is a strong sound which is a downbeat as well and you put it on a sliderend which is a clear emphasis and rhythm problem at the same time. This sound needs to be a single note or the start of a slider, it would even make sense to make a hyperdash to that sound.
Let's take look at the very first sounds (from 00:01:200 - to 00:02:250 - ): When you listen closely to this section (with 50% or 25% speed), you can hear pretty well that the sounds in this section are divided in two groups: From 00:01:200 - to 00:01:650 - and from 00:01:800 - to 00:02:250 - with 00:01:650 -
being a minor sound compared to all other sounds in this section. With this knowledge, a new object needs to start at 00:01:800 - to divide the two groups of sounds and the sound on 00:01:650 - don't necessarily needs to be mapped because it is so minor (still can be mapped though, mappers preference here). As it is right now you start a new object on the most unimportant sound (00:01:650 - ) and you put 00:01:800 - as a sliderend which is a complete fail with our knowledge now.
00:04:650 (1,2,3,4,5) - Listen to them, they need to be all 1/2 later as well (and 4 instead of 5 sliders)
00:09:600 (4,5) - 1/2 off as well and the hyper is questionable anyways because the sound isn't that important.
00:12:600 (6,7) - Listen again. The sliderend is a way more important sound than the single note, but you made the slider 1/1 and a hyper to the less important sound instead of 1/2 and a hyper to the important sound.

These are just examples as I said, the whole diff is off imo.

Hope that I could help again!

Dapulezatos

317 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Dapulezatos 2017-10-30T15:03:15+00:00

Sanyi wrote:

NO KUDOSU! Recheck on Platter and Rain.

General: Rework your NCs please, they should be on every downbeat (= on every big white tick)

Platter
00:04:050 (2,3,4) - There is no strict definition of what antiflow is, but for me that's antiflow. I also talked with Benny- about it and he agreed that the distance between 00:04:500 (3) - and 00:04:800 (4) - is too far. Therefore I recommend you to move 00:04:800 (4) - more to the right, I think x:288 should be enough. Make sure to move 00:05:400 (6) - to x:288 as well so that the distances in 00:04:500 (3,4,5,6,7) - are consistent. The same suggestion goes for 00:32:850 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - . Ok
00:07:200 (4) - This slider covers really minor sounds in comparison to the previous two sliders but provides the exact same gameplay which feels weird. Moving 00:07:200 (4) - to x:64 and flipping the whole map that comes after that slider emphasizes the music much better and provides nice gameplay as well. The same suggestion goes for 00:36:000 (4) - . Looks good
00:08:250 (6,1,2) - That is hyperdash into antiflow for me as well, moving 00:08:700 (2) - to x:224 should seal the deal here. I'd rather put it at 256. Because putting it in x:224 isn't look good for me
00:15:150 (7,8,1) - I don't like the emphasizing choice here, making a big gap from 00:15:150 (7) - to 00:15:450 (8) - and no gap at all from 00:15:450 (8) - to 00:15:600 (1) - even though 00:15:600 (1) - is a downbeat. I think it would make rhythm-wise much more sense to make the first gap small and the second one big so that you have the dash to the downbeat instead to the note before the downbeat. Sure
00:20:100 (8) - Should be snapped to 00:20:250 - to land on the important sound. You did the same at 00:15:450 (8) - . You can make then a hyperdash to 00:20:400 (1) - , fits the start of the kiai well. Looks Good
00:20:400 (1) - Is inconsistent with the rest of the kiai, there should be a gap at 00:20:550 - like you did everywhere else afterwards, so make 00:20:400 (1) - a single note and start the next object at 00:20:700 - to fix that. In general I think it would be better to be more consistent in the kiai with your usage of 1/2 sliders and repeat sliders, it is not 100% consistent with that. Ik it's not consistent with other pattern. But at least it sounds better rather than you put a circle and make a gap between it. Tho it's the beginnin' of the kiai. It should be fine.
00:21:300 (3,4,1) - Plays weird imo, because you need to slow down after the hyperdash because otherwise you move to far right to catch the next fruit.
It is also inconsistent with the rest of the kiai since in the whole kiai you've made a direction of movement change right after a hyper but not here. Therefore I recommend you to flip 00:21:900 (1) - and move it to x:176 to create a better flow and to keep consistency with the rest of the kiai. Ayy,
It's good
00:22:500 (3,4,1) - Hyperdash into antiflow again, you need to move 00:23:100 (1) - to x:288 to fix that. Ok
00:25:200 (4,1,2,3) - You move the whole time from left to right, which is boring and inconsistent with previous parts at the same time. Please make some movement changes in this section like you did every time beforehand. Fixed the issue
00:26:700 (1) - Please move it to x:336 to avoid antiflow after a hyperdash again. Ok
00:27:900 (1) - Same here, move it to x:176. Green light
00:28:800 (4,5) - Distance is way to big this time, you need to move 00:29:100 (5) - to x:320 to avoid antiflow. x:272 would be fine. tho

Rain

General: The Rain itself has huge problems with emphasis in my opinion. I personally think that reworking it again (or searching for a guest diff) is the way to go. Since it would take forever to point out everything, I will just point out some major stuff with one example each. The things that I will point out has to be fixed in the whole diff though (and not only at the spot I used as an example), so it is your job to go through the whole song/diff and search for similar problems. If you need any help or have any questions don't hesitate to ask me!
00:02:400 - Is a strong sound which is a downbeat as well and you put it on a sliderend which is a clear emphasis and rhythm problem at the same time. This sound needs to be a single note or the start of a slider, it would even make sense to make a hyperdash to that sound.
Let's take look at the very first sounds (from 00:01:200 - to 00:02:250 - ): When you listen closely to this section (with 50% or 25% speed), you can hear pretty well that the sounds in this section are divided in two groups: From 00:01:200 - to 00:01:650 - and from 00:01:800 - to 00:02:250 - with 00:01:650 -
being a minor sound compared to all other sounds in this section. With this knowledge, a new object needs to start at 00:01:800 - to divide the two groups of sounds and the sound on 00:01:650 - don't necessarily needs to be mapped because it is so minor (still can be mapped though, mappers preference here). As it is right now you start a new object on the most unimportant sound (00:01:650 - ) and you put 00:01:800 - as a sliderend which is a complete fail with our knowledge now.
00:04:650 (1,2,3,4,5) - Listen to them, they need to be all 1/2 later as well (and 4 instead of 5 sliders)
00:09:600 (4,5) - 1/2 off as well and the hyper is questionable anyways because the sound isn't that important.
00:12:600 (6,7) - Listen again. The sliderend is a way more important sound than the single note, but you made the slider 1/1 and a hyper to the less important sound instead of 1/2 and a hyper to the important sound.
These are just examples as I said, the whole diff is off imo. Fine
Hope that I could help again!

Thanks for re-check. I think I just need to put effort on the Rain diff

Beepu

139 posts

Joined September 2014

Beepu 2017-11-11T21:20:37+00:00

-Hex-'s Cup

00:03:900 - a violent sound here so i will add a cb
00:07:350 - add a cb to keep consistent with 00:06:600 (2,3) -
00:36:150 - as above
00:38:850 (1) - move to start on 00:38:700 -

Salad

00:15:450 (6) - i feel add a circle on 00:15:450 - and add a slider on 00:15:750 - to 00:15:900 -
00:15:900 - can't ignore
00:36:000 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - ctrl+h ?
buz 00:07:500 (3,4,5,6,7) - so i will make 00:36:300 (3,4,5,6,7) - on the left

Platter

00:05:550 - miss cb
00:13:050 - 00:15:450 (8) - 00:17:850 - no sound effects ?
00:34:350 - miss cb

Sanyi's Rain

00:07:350 - i feel make a cb will better
00:13:050 - 00:15:450 (3) - 00:15:450 (3) - no sound effects ?
00:36:150 - like 00:07:350 -

Fii's Overdose

00:13:050 - 00:15:450 (5) - 00:17:850 - 00:21:525 (7) - 00:25:125 - 00:27:525 (7) - 00:27:525 (7) - 00:29:925 - no sound effects ?
00:30:300 (2,3,4,5,6) - increase a little bit distance to left
i feel more fun when i play this diff

Can use no sound effects in some cb if permutation is too tight
but i think they need sound effects to value

Gordon123

1,038 posts

Joined June 2013

Gordon123 2017-11-12T11:27:51+00:00

c'mon guys ,rank it pls!!!!

Dapulezatos

317 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Dapulezatos 2017-11-13T13:51:32+00:00

[-naniwa-] wrote:
Salad

00:15:450 (6) - i feel add a circle on 00:15:450 - and add a slider on 00:15:750 - to 00:15:900 -
00:15:900 - can't ignore Fixed
00:36:000 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - ctrl+h ? Flipped
buz 00:07:500 (3,4,5,6,7) - so i will make 00:36:300 (3,4,5,6,7) - on the left

Platter

00:05:550 - miss cb I prefer no NC here
00:13:050 - 00:15:450 (8) - 00:17:850 - no sound effects ? Added
00:34:350 - miss cb Same as before

Can use no sound effects in some cb if permutation is too tight
but i think they need sound effects to value

Last edited by Dapulezatos 2017-11-18T15:20:58+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Dapulezatos

317 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Dapulezatos 2017-11-13T13:56:11+00:00

Gordon123 wrote:
c'mon guys ,rank it pls!!!!

I'm still searching for modders ;w; . But only few of them respond to my req

Sanyi

236 posts

Joined November 2015

Sanyi 2017-11-13T22:58:09+00:00

About naniwa's mod:

My NCs are following the simple but effective rule of every downbeat a NC, therefore I want to keep my NCs as they are right now.

About the hitsound thingy: Since I haven't hitsounded the diff myself it is up to the hitsounder to decide that.

Ulqui

Beatmap Nominator

711 posts

Joined December 2011

Ulqui 2017-11-15T14:53:11+00:00

HI!
from queue

[Katana]

00:09:600 - why is this k? the pitch isn't high for k, change to d.
00:16:500 (18,19,20,21,22) - i think this is a bit hard to read
(my suggestion is:
00:16:500 - move to 00:16:800 -
00:17:100 - move to 00:17:700 -
00:18:900 - move to 00:18:600 -
00:19:500 - move to 00:19:200 - )
if you have an idea of something simpler,then fine c:
00:36:600 - delete? consistence with 00:31:800 -

[Poii's Footshoe]

00:10:950 (22,23,24) - really weird
00:15:750 (11,12,13) - ^ pls try something else, think on baby footshoe players :C

[Poii's Kanashiiureshii]

00:01:650 - delete(?

diff is good, but it's really demanding comparing to futsuu, pls nerf a little

[_yu69's Poni]

this doesn't need mods tho.

Poii

1,441 posts

Joined February 2016

Poii 2017-11-16T04:10:05+00:00

Ulqui wrote:
HI! maa Ulquboii wadaapp man !
from queue

[Poii's Footshoe]

00:10:950 (22,23,24) - really weird
00:15:750 (11,12,13) - ^ pls try something else, think on baby footshoe players :C i do somethin somethin,for baby tacos

[Poii's Kanashiiureshii]

00:01:650 - delete(?

diff is good, but it's really demanding comparing to futsuu, pls nerf a little

[_yu69's Poni]

this doesn't need mods tho. i knew it xD

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fack the SR xD, rip my futsuu, i place so much note in red tick

-Hex-

363 posts

Joined June 2016

-Hex- 2017-11-16T06:41:20+00:00

00:03:900 - I would like to make it consistent with other simple movement I have.
00:07:350 - Nope, I would like to make small break in there.
00:36:150 - Same as above.
00:38:850 (1) - The sound starts on that timestamp, I will leave it.

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Thanks for your suggestions!

-Hex-

363 posts

Joined June 2016

-Hex- 2017-11-16T06:42:37+00:00

Shit. Double post.

Dusk-

804 posts

Joined March 2015

Dusk- 2017-11-18T11:07:45+00:00

Mod for Taiko~
_yu68's Oni -
00:04:500 I hear a pitched sound here. I suggest you make this a k
00:33:300 ^
00:36:450 kkd sounds better imo
00:39:600 add a finisher?
Overall, good map

Dapulezatos

317 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Dapulezatos 2017-11-18T15:23:50+00:00

Updated.

Should I search for a BN xd ?

Dapulezatos

317 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Dapulezatos 2017-11-18T15:29:05+00:00

Ulqui wrote:
HI!
from queue

[Katana]

00:09:600 - why is this k? the pitch isn't high for k, change to d. Ok
00:16:500 (18,19,20,21,22) - i think this is a bit hard to read Applied
(my suggestion is:
00:16:500 - move to 00:16:800 -
00:17:100 - move to 00:17:700 -
00:18:900 - move to 00:18:600 -
00:19:500 - move to 00:19:200 - )
if you have an idea of something simpler,then fine c:
00:36:600 - delete? consistence with 00:31:800 - They're not same

Poii

1,441 posts

Joined February 2016

Poii 2017-11-18T16:46:55+00:00

you should, we're waiting for it

gws btw

_yu68

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017

492 posts

Joined March 2015

_yu68 2017-11-19T12:23:02+00:00

_DUSK_ wrote:
Mod for Taiko~
_yu68's Oni -
00:04:500 I hear a pitched sound here. I suggest you make this a k
00:33:300 ^
00:36:450 kkd sounds better imo
00:39:600 add a finisher?
Overall, good map

all fixed~ thanks mod o/

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@Skycreeper- plz kds him

celerih

617 posts

Joined July 2014

celerih 2018-02-04T20:32:37+00:00

Sanyi told me to mod lower diffs. Blame him

[

-Hex-'s Cup]

00:07:500 (5) - Instead of a 2/2 slider here, a 1/1 slider + circle on 00:08:100 - works better rhythm wise
00:12:600 (4) - Here again, rhythm could be improved. Try something like what I did in the box below see if you like it (I have my cursor on 00:12:600 - in the screenshot if it helps you situate this i the map)
00:14:100 (3,1) - 00:17:400 (3,4) - Same as above for rhythm, it just follows the main melody much better
00:24:600 (4) - The clap on the slider end here is kinda out of place, remove it. They work on the section after because all the sounds here are all the same.

[

Platter]

00:06:600 (2,3,4) - make the walks here easier to hit. They are pretty big right now and make it easy to miss on 00:07:200 (4,1) -
00:14:550 (4,5,6,7) - Change these to be more vertical and easier to hit. All the anti-flow dashes on different snaps is too hard to read for a platter player, something more simple would work better
00:19:350 (4,5,6,7,8) - same thing as above applies here
00:15:450 (8,1) - A 1/1 slider follow the song better here
00:16:650 (3,4) - Distance here is a bit too low
00:21:900 (1,2,3) - 00:27:900 (1,2,3) - 3 antiflow dashes in a row is too hard for a platter, plus these are way harder than the other patterns in this section, so it ends up not fitting with the rest at all

Just dropping in a few suggestions, hopefully it was helpful in any way. Good luck!

Dapulezatos

317 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Dapulezatos 2018-02-05T18:30:29+00:00

Gonna apply this when I got a laptop on my own. Thanks for modding!

Will resurrect this ASAP!

Dapulezatos

317 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Dapulezatos 2018-02-26T14:19:11+00:00

celerih wrote:
Sanyi told me to mod lower diffs. Blame him

Platter

00:06:600 (2,3,4) - make the walks here easier to hit. They are pretty big right now and make it easy to miss on 00:07:200 (4,1) - Okay
00:14:550 (4,5,6,7) - Change these to be more vertical and easier to hit. All the anti-flow dashes on different snaps is too hard to read for a platter player, something more simple would work better Sure. but I changed this with slider instead

00:19:350 (4,5,6,7,8) - same thing as above applies here Ok
00:15:450 (8,1) - A 1/1 slider follow the song better here Yeah will make this 1/1 since the simillar rythm near kiai use 1/1 too
00:16:650 (3,4) - Distance here is a bit too low Changed
00:21:900 (1,2,3) - 00:27:900 (1,2,3) - 3 antiflow dashes in a row is too hard for a platter, plus these are way harder than the other patterns in this section, so it ends up not fitting with the rest at all Pattern changed. Might need someone to re-check it since I'm not too confident about the pattern

Just dropping in a few suggestions, hopefully it was helpful in any way. Good luck!

Thanks for mods! Now resurrecting and good bye to taiko diff :'(

The Taiko GDers can ask for their .osz file to me if they want. Somehow I upload it to drive.

-Hex-

363 posts

Joined June 2016

-Hex- 2018-02-26T15:04:56+00:00

Accepted all and remapped my diff. Thanks!

Cup

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Dapulezatos

317 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Dapulezatos 2018-02-26T15:30:26+00:00

Ok added combo colors owo

Divine Cake

152 posts

Joined November 2013

Divine Cake 2018-03-09T15:32:18+00:00

Responding to M4M (thank Sanyi)

[General]

there is a pretty big diff spike between fii's overdose and MBombs game over. consider adding a bridging diff or buffing fii's overdose a bit and nerfing Game over a bit.

[Cup]

00:06:600 (2,3) - would preffer a bit lower spacing between these two. maybe 0.64x
00:08:400 (3) - could consider tilting this a bit vertical. 00:07:050 (4,1,2,3) - can get a bit tight to catch with all the movement.
00:10:800 (1) - feels a lot stronger than 00:11:100 (2) - but got same spacing. would reduce distance between these two a bit.
00:13:200 (1) - would preffer to have this over towards 4. music pitch starts low on 00:12:600 (4) - goes up to 00:12:900 (5) - and down to 00:13:200 (1) - again.

[Salad]

Using around 1.6x for your dash spacing is not that good. on this high bpm song it can make dashes unclear to read. I would use somewhere between 1.7x and 1.8x as dash distance to have a clear dash spacing and would keep walk spacing under 1.4x to make walks clear too.
i assumed places like 00:01:800 (2,3) - 00:03:300 (5,1) - 00:03:900 (2,3) - 00:06:000 (1,2) - was ment as dashes

00:06:600 (2) - would tilt this a bit more vertical. Having this rapid direction change after the dash seems a bit harsh.

Not that much else to say tbh. The biggest issue is unclear spacing. would try to make those dashes and walks a bit more distinguishable from eachother.

[Platter]

00:02:700 (4,5,6) - not that clear to me why you increase spacing so drastically for 5 and 6 compared to the repeat. would use 1x spacing between these notes instead.
00:03:600 (1,2,3) - would reduce spacing between 1 and 2 so you can make 3 stand more out as a dash.
00:21:900 (2,3,4) - would use same spacing for all three sliders.
00:23:100 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - spacing implies 00:23:550 (5) - is more significant than 00:24:000 (1) - would reduce 00:23:400 (4,5) - a bit.
00:26:700 (2,3,4) - same spacing for all three again.
00:27:900 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - same spacing inconsistency as 00:23:100 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) -
okay sidenote about kiai. i find your rapid transition between following a 1/2 rhythm (00:21:600 (1,2,3,4) - ) and a 3/4 rhythm (00:23:100 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - ) a bit confusing. cant you use a mostly 1/2 for first half and mostly 3/4 for 2nd half of the kiai?
00:31:500 (4,5,6) - nice callback to 00:02:700 (4,5,6) - but also too high spacing for 5 and 6 here too imo.
00:32:400 (1,2,3) - same with this and 00:03:600 (1,2,3) - again

[Rain]

00:01:950 (3,4) - creates and almost but not quite hold dash pattern. can you either buff spacing between head and tail of 4 or move 4 a bit closer to 3 so its a bit more forgiving.
00:25:200 - copypasta of the first half of kiai is a bit too booring isnt it? why not focus on curve movement for one half and line movement for the second? did that make sense? >.<

[Overdose]

Not much to say tbh.

[Game Over]

Good top diff but too far out from diff spread imo.

-Hex-

363 posts

Joined June 2016

-Hex- 2018-03-10T08:03:55+00:00

00:06:600 (2,3) - 0.96x instead
00:08:400 (3) - I think that's okay, still easy to catch.
00:13:200 (1) - I'd prefer celerih's rhythm suggestion. Sorry :c

Thanks!

k

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Dapulezatos

317 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Dapulezatos 2018-03-11T05:34:02+00:00

Divine Cake wrote:
Responding to M4M (thank Sanyi)
[General]
there is a pretty big diff spike between fii's overdose and MBombs game over. consider adding a bridging diff or buffing fii's overdose a bit and nerfing Game over a bit. Let me discuss it first

[Salad]
Using around 1.6x for your dash spacing is not that good. on this high bpm song it can make dashes unclear to read. I would use somewhere between 1.7x and 1.8x as dash distance to have a clear dash spacing and would keep walk spacing under 1.4x to make walks clear too.
i assumed places like 00:01:800 (2,3) - 00:03:300 (5,1) - 00:03:900 (2,3) - 00:06:000 (1,2) - was ment as dashes Applied
00:06:600 (2) - would tilt this a bit more vertical. Having this rapid direction change after the dash seems a bit harsh. Ok
Not that much else to say tbh. The biggest issue is unclear spacing. would try to make those dashes and walks a bit more distinguishable from eachother.
Fixed

[Platter]

00:02:700 (4,5,6) - not that clear to me why you increase spacing so drastically for 5 and 6 compared to the repeat. would use 1x spacing between these notes instead. Ye sure
00:03:600 (1,2,3) - would reduce spacing between 1 and 2 so you can make 3 stand more out as a dash. Ok
00:21:900 (2,3,4) - would use same spacing for all three sliders. Sip
00:23:100 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - spacing implies 00:23:550 (5) - is more significant than 00:24:000 (1) - would reduce 00:23:400 (4,5) - a bit. Yeah sure
00:26:700 (2,3,4) - same spacing for all three again. ;w;
00:27:900 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - same spacing inconsistency as 00:23:100 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - Fixed
okay sidenote about kiai. i find your rapid transition between following a 1/2 rhythm (00:21:600 (1,2,3,4) - ) and a 3/4 rhythm (00:23:100 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - ) a bit confusing. cant you use a mostly 1/2 for first half and mostly 3/4 for 2nd half of the kiai? I think 1/2 is already good enough imo. They had same rythm. So that's why I made a copy from the first half for the second half one.
00:31:500 (4,5,6) - nice callback to 00:02:700 (4,5,6) - but also too high spacing for 5 and 6 here too imo. Fixed.
00:32:400 (1,2,3) - same with this and 00:03:600 (1,2,3) - again Noticed that.

Thanks for modding!

Sanyi

236 posts

Joined November 2015

Sanyi 2018-03-13T10:52:07+00:00

Divine Cake wrote:
Responding to M4M (thank Sanyi) yw

[Rain]
00:01:950 (3,4) - creates and almost but not quite hold dash pattern. can you either buff spacing between head and tail of 4 or move 4 a bit closer to 3 so its a bit more forgiving. Asked other people for their opinion and they think it is fine, may change it if anyone else thinks the distance is meh
00:25:200 - copypasta of the first half of kiai is a bit too booring isnt it? why not focus on curve movement for one half and line movement for the second? did that make sense? >.< RRREEEEEEEEEEEEE (not exactly doing what you suggested since a style change is too much in my opinion but will still work on it)

Will send the updated diff to Dapu as soon as I reworked the last part!

Thanks for modding!

EDIT: Sent the updated diff to Dapu, I made some small adjustments on my own as well.

Dea ex machina

535 posts

Joined January 2014

Dea ex machina 2018-03-17T17:44:26+00:00

Professor Gila wrote:
Hello overdose o.o
-00:02:100 (6) - reverse the selection by ctrl + g this :3 I intended for this to be a regular dash

-00:02:850 (2) - make a hyper on this part by dragging it to X:376 see above

-00:05:100 (2) - drag this to the left to make a hyper here... see above

-00:29:700 (1) - hmmm just drag this to the right to make it a hyper to jump intended to play as a regular stream

hmm there doesn't seem too much i can mod on this diff so i only can assure the rest is fine

lulu lemon wrote:
[fii's overdose]
00:07:200 (1,2,3,4) - hmm (1,2) have a different sound than (3,4) so it doesn't really make sense rhythmcly wise to have this arc like that while you could emphasize (3,4) because they have the louder noise. you're right, fixed this
00:13:800 (3,4,5,6) - this arc could have way more movement considering the music is starting to build up, and all the notes start to have more density, so it doesn't feel right to have a sudden stop of movement. i know this is probably just a mapping style but i feel like having more movement would make everything more equal and still emphasize the music fixed

[-naniwa-] wrote:
Fii's Overdose

00:13:050 - 00:15:450 (5) - 00:17:850 - 00:21:525 (7) - 00:25:125 - 00:27:525 (7) - 00:27:525 (7) - 00:29:925 - no sound effects ?
00:30:300 (2,3,4,5,6) - increase a little bit distance to left
i feel more fun when i play this diff

fixed all!

thanks for the mods

@Dapuluous, make sure to remove mbomb from tags

updated diff

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Dapulezatos

317 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Dapulezatos 2018-03-17T19:04:35+00:00

Ok updated.

Dapulezatos

317 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Dapulezatos 2018-03-17T19:04:57+00:00

~~Ok updated.~~ Double posted because of lagging.

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2018-03-19T19:29:55+00:00

Hellooooooooooo~

Here from sd_orchard! Thanks again for submitting your map to our queue

[

General]

Difficulty Spread : Okay
Background Size : Okay
Unsnapped objects : Okay
Audio bitrate over 192 kbps : Okay
Metadata Issues : Source please!
Timeline Issues : Okay
Combo Colors : You could add a 4th red color, that would be nice <:
Unused Hitsounds : Okay
Hitsounds Issues : soft-hitnormal should definitely be removed, it's making things like 00:13:050 - completely inaudible, which is unrankable.
Unused Files / Other : Okay

[

Hex's Cup]

General

00:08:400 (3,1,2,3,4,1,2) - This is a lot of left rights for a new player, try to change up the pattern here to make it something a bit easier!
really nice difficulty!

[

Salad]

General

00:01:800 (2,3) - Not sure there's need for a dash here, try reducing this!
00:03:900 (2,3) - I'd remove the dash here and maybe add a dash between 00:04:500 (3,1) - instead.
00:04:800 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe reducing the distance of these to walks would be nicer, this pattern is pretty challenging
00:06:000 (1,2) - remove dash! the pitch is pretty low so i don't think it needs one.
00:12:900 (6,1) - I'd reduce the distance here, the movement is pretty big coming out of the dash between 00:12:600 (5,6) - .
00:20:400 (4) - Needs an NC
Imo you should go through the kiai and maybe reduce some density here. For example, you could turn things like 00:20:400 (4,5) - into a 1/1 slider etc etc. The gap between cup and salad is a bit big so try to compare to his rhythms!
00:32:700 (2,3) - Odd flow, slider is point right but flow goes left here

[

Platter]

General

00:10:500 (7,1) - was this meant to be a hyperdash? if so, please increase the distance, if not, then this is way too big and needs a reduction
00:18:450 (2,3) - Antiflow in platters is unrankable, please fix this by making 3 face to the left! Remember to fix the patterns afterwards to accommodate for this.
00:22:500 (4,1) - No HDash here? You did it for previous beat like this
00:27:300 (4,1) - Same
00:39:300 (7,8) - Could use a slight reduction

[

Sanyi's Rain]

General

00:07:350 - Missing a pretty important beat here imo, add a circle for it!
00:20:550 (2,6) - could both be moved to x:192 and x:328 respectively, the current pattern is really shallow
00:25:200 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - copypaste makes me angry :\
00:36:150 - add a circle!
pretty good overall but i'll punch you if you copypaste again

[

Fii's Overdose]

General

00:03:300 (4) - Sliderend on an important sound makes me sad here :< You could definitely make this a 1/2 slider and have an HDash to 00:03:600 - .
00:05:700 (4) - Yeah same
The above applies to every similar thing in the whole map pleeeeease fix it!
00:11:250 (3) - This could be a 1/4 slider considering you made it one for the sound at 00:11:100 (2) - (this happens again somewhere that i forgot so do it there too please uwu)
00:12:300 (3) - Missing a sound at 00:12:450 -, I'd make this whole thing 2 1/2 sliders since skipping 00:12:750 - feels kinda odd to me
00:13:950 (4,5) - 5 is a pretty impactful sound, how about an hdash?
00:15:300 - meme skip imo, low sound + wewwwwwww there could use a circle!
pretty nitpicky but hopefully you can apply the stuff I bolded

Nice set, you can call me back!

-Hex-

363 posts

Joined June 2016

-Hex- 2018-03-19T19:52:59+00:00

Fixed. Thanks Ascendance!

Cangkir

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Dapulezatos

317 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Dapulezatos 2018-03-19T20:24:41+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
Hellooooooooooo~

Here from sd_orchard! Thanks again for submitting your map to our queue Your welcome, and thank you too <3

[ General]

Difficulty Spread : Okay
Background Size : Okay
Unsnapped objects : Okay
Audio bitrate over 192 kbps : Okay
Metadata Issues : Source please! https://kolakid.bandcamp.com/album/cash-machine-go
Timeline Issues : Okay
Combo Colors : You could add a 4th red color, that would be nice <: Added
Unused Hitsounds : Okay
Hitsounds Issues : soft-hitnormal should definitely be removed, it's making things like 00:13:050 - completely inaudible, which is unrankable. Deleted
Unused Files / Other : Okay

[ Salad]

General

00:01:800 (2,3) - Not sure there's need for a dash here, try reducing this! Well since it's not a high one. Then ok
00:03:900 (2,3) - I'd remove the dash here and maybe add a dash between 00:04:500 (3,1) - instead. I'm not sure about adding dash between 00:04:500 (3,1) - . The rythm isn't that high so dash wouldn't fit the rythm. Maybe you mentioned the 00:03:900 (2,3) - ?
00:04:800 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe reducing the distance of these to walks would be nicer, this pattern is pretty challenging But 00:07:500 (1) - rythm is rather high that's why I put dash ;w;
00:06:000 (1,2) - remove dash! the pitch is pretty low so i don't think it needs one. Sure
00:12:900 (6,1) - I'd reduce the distance here, the movement is pretty big coming out of the dash between 00:12:600 (5,6) - . But it's walkable . And I put 1.20x spacing which I applied to most of pattern that are walkable.
00:20:400 (4) - Needs an NC Ups I forgot ;w;
Imo you should go through the kiai and maybe reduce some density here. For example, you could turn things like 00:20:400 (4,5) - into a 1/1 slider etc etc. The gap between cup and salad is a bit big so try to compare to his rhythms! Made some changes to the kiai according to the mods.
00:32:700 (2,3) - Odd flow, slider is point right but flow goes left here Fixed

[ Platter]

General

00:10:500 (7,1) - was this meant to be a hyperdash? if so, please increase the distance, if not, then this is way too big and needs a reduction Reduced.
00:18:450 (2,3) - Antiflow in platters is unrankable, please fix this by making 3 face to the left! Remember to fix the patterns afterwards to accommodate for this. Ok
00:22:500 (4,1) - No HDash here? You did it for previous beat like this Oh sorry.
00:27:300 (4,1) - Same Did the same for consistency
00:39:300 (7,8) - Could use a slight reduction Sure

Nice set, you can call me back! Sure, I'll call you back when it's done <3

Last edited by Dapulezatos 2018-03-20T01:23:08+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Sanyi

236 posts

Joined November 2015

Sanyi 2018-03-19T22:19:55+00:00

[quote="Ascendance"]

[

Sanyi's Rain]

General

00:07:350 - Missing a pretty important beat here imo, add a circle for it! I only wanted to put notes on the main melody, so I'd rather not break consistency here. If you really want it to be added I won't hold the set back though.
00:20:550 (2,6) - could both be moved to x:192 and x:328 respectively, the current pattern is really shallow The whole kiai is meant to have no normal dash due to it's special sound, if I would apply your suggestion that would be ruined. I moved them a tiny bit though.
00:25:200 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - copypaste makes me angry :\ Okay sir!
00:36:150 - add a circle! Same answer obviously
pretty good overall but i'll punch you if you copypaste again dude don't wait just do it

Sanyi's Rain

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-Luminate

358 posts

Joined August 2014

-Luminate 2018-03-25T11:17:35+00:00

Hello! From my queue some years ago Sorry
I think the set is okay by now and ready for rank, so just a little things here

Platter

00:15:300 - no note can be heard except for background fx. if you still follow the melody, (6) should be on 00:15:450
00:20:100 - no note can be heard here, instead I think (6) should be on 00:20:250 -
00:39:600 (8) - NC here like the other diffs (Same for your Salad)

Fii's Overdose

00:01:500 (2,3,4,5) - crop them all, ctrl+h and move to x:264 would reflect the note change a little?
00:03:300 (4) - I think this should be more movement here, make it more horizontal and move the patterns after along
00:07:350 (2) - no important note can be heard here, remove? I suggest this
00:24:300 (2,3) - I think this plays better tho
00:28:800 (1) - NC here and remove NC on 00:29:700 (5) -
00:34:500 (4) - same as 00:03:300 (4)

Cup, Salad and Rain seems fine
Hope this helps

GL!

Dea ex machina

535 posts

Joined January 2014

Dea ex machina 2018-04-05T11:59:16+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
Fii's Overdose

General

00:03:300 (4) - Sliderend on an important sound makes me sad here :< You could definitely make this a 1/2 slider and have an HDash to 00:03:600 - .
00:05:700 (4) - Yeah same
The above applies to every similar thing in the whole map pleeeeease fix it! done
00:11:250 (3) - This could be a 1/4 slider considering you made it one for the sound at 00:11:100 (2) - (this happens again somewhere that i forgot so do it there too please uwu) cant agree here, if i do this the entire section will need a rework and i think the buffered noise here is fine for this diff
00:12:300 (3) - Missing a sound at 00:12:450 -, I'd make this whole thing 2 1/2 sliders since skipping 00:12:750 - feels kinda odd to me okie dokie
00:13:950 (4,5) - 5 is a pretty impactful sound, how about an hdash? doesnt really fit with the rest of the patterns imo
00:15:300 - meme skip imo, low sound + wewwwwwww there could use a circle! ~~its my style~~ and i really like it
pretty nitpicky but hopefully you can apply the stuff I bolded

Nice set, you can call me back!

thx desu

-Luminate wrote:
Fii's Overdose
00:01:500 (2,3,4,5) - crop them all, ctrl+h and move to x:264 would reflect the note change a little? there was a specific movement i had in mind here and id like to keep it this way
00:03:300 (4) - I think this should be more movement here, make it more horizontal and move the patterns after along diagonal sliders work better imo
00:07:350 (2) - no important note can be heard here, remove? I suggest this (2) sounds pretty important to me lol
00:24:300 (2,3) - I think this plays better tho ok~
00:28:800 (1) - NC here and remove NC on 00:29:700 (5) - oops, yep fixed!
00:34:500 (4) - same as 00:03:300 (4)

thanks!

updated

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Dapulezatos

317 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Dapulezatos 2018-04-05T12:43:36+00:00

-Luminate wrote:
Hello! From my queue some years ago Sorry Lol. It's ok
I think the set is okay by now and ready for rank, so just a little things here
Platter
00:15:300 - no note can be heard except for background fx. if you still follow the melody, (6) should be on 00:15:450 Oh ok. It sounds good.
00:20:100 - no note can be heard here, instead I think (6) should be on 00:20:250 - You can hear "dor" sound at 00:20:100 - . And the reason why I don't put any circle or slider at 00:20:250 - to give player a breathe room before they're going through the kiai part.
00:39:600 (8) - NC here like the other diffs (Same for your Salad) Ok. Hehe~

Cup, Salad and Rain seems fine
Hope this helps
GL!

Thanks for modding.

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2018-04-05T18:40:12+00:00

-wwwww wrote:
Ascendance wrote:
Fii's Overdose

General

00:11:250 (3) - This could be a 1/4 slider considering you made it one for the sound at 00:11:100 (2) - (this happens again somewhere that i forgot so do it there too please uwu) cant agree here, if i do this the entire section will need a rework and i think the buffered noise here is fine for this diff
00:15:300 - meme skip imo, low sound + wewwwwwww there could use a circle! ~~its my style~~ and i really like it

Nice set, you can call me back!

have to disagree with the reasoning here for these two points, the bolded point breaks consistency with the same exact sound, so if you wanted to make it 1/4 + circle then you should change it in the other places instead of changing these to double 1/4

the second point is like... it's a really strong sound so please add it, you've been using circles for the stuff around it but not the most impactful sound of that section.

After these are either accepted or more appropriate replies are made, call me back

Dea ex machina

535 posts

Joined January 2014

Dea ex machina 2018-04-07T13:18:42+00:00

applied i guess

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:press start
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ArtistUnicode:Kola Kid
Creator:Dapuluous
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Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2018-04-07T16:38:44+00:00

After accidentally destroying mapper spirit, the set looks fine.

-Hex-

363 posts

Joined June 2016

-Hex- 2018-04-07T16:40:27+00:00

Here we go bois.

Nokashi

304 posts

Joined December 2014

Nokashi 2018-04-12T18:01:23+00:00

Hello Hello! I'm finally here from the sd_orchard queue. Sorry for that but Holidays happened!

Ran through metadata with people ( it was a spooky ride ) but now its confirmed on my end too! Can never be too sure

General

Theres a pretty uneven way HS are used from cup/salad and then platter and up. Not gonna pop yet cause I'd like to see your own opinion, and also clear away some wonky stuff i have in mind that would be better talked about in IRC

Hex's Cup

00:07:200 - Consider adding a circle here, since theres similar synth here that was mapped in this pattern
00:10:050 (3) - Kinda underwhelming to have this be fully vertical, offering no horizontal movement. Executing a similar movement with 00:06:600 (2,3,4) - would play nice to be honest
00:24:900 - I'd reckon theres a clap missing here
00:29:400 (4) - Might be personal taste but I Believe having this as a fully horizontal slider could add some intensity to finish off the kiai

Salad

00:02:400 (3,4) - I dont think rhythm presented here really corresponds with the prominent synth. Consider trying this out instead. This places more emphasis on the stronger synth rather than ovelapping it with weaker beats getting mapped. Ticker starts on 00:02:400 -
00:23:550 (6,1,2,1) - I find this a bit too tame to be in the middle of the kiai, even if you wanted to go for the waker movements, theres no reason to reduce density as well
00:21:000 (3,1,2) - 00:25:800 (3,1,2) - Comparing these two I find the contrast in spacing too noticable even though the sound is consistent

Platter

00:05:700 (4,1) - This is pretty weak of a transition imo, having it be linear doesnt help either, Having 00:05:700 (4,1) - this be a direction change would emphasize it quite well
00:10:500 (7) - Consider having this be a 1/2 slider instead, since its pretty similar of a sound like 00:10:800 (1) - and connect them with a HDash to signal the stanza change, would work expeptionally well, pattern right now feels really underwhelming
00:22:950 - Drum sampleset outta nowhere here, is this intentional? I doubt it is. Please investigate
00:34:500 (4,1) - Similar point as 00:05:700 (4,1) - Since this part is copied and the issue is retained

Sanyi's Rain

00:07:350 - 00:36:150 - These bad boys could be mapped for the extra density here, would also make rhythm more interesting
00:22:950 (2) - Again kinda random drum sampleset

Pretty cute diff

Fii's Overdose

00:28:650 - Kinda random soft sampleset here, Shouldnt be intentional
00:03:000 (3,4) - Isnt this a bit too much? Comparing it to 00:31:650 (2,3,4) - its little bro here, even if the former wanted to be a stronger counterpart, the difference is too noticable imo

That's it! Cute diff as well!

And that's a wrap, apply these and call me back over the HS issue I wanted to discuss!

-Hex-

363 posts

Joined June 2016

-Hex- 2018-04-13T10:36:29+00:00

00:07:200 - No it's not. If you meant this one : 00:06:750 (3) - yea I mapped that sound cuz it has high pitch sounds. While this one : 00:07:200 - its lower than this one : 00:07:050 (4) - that's why I don't map it. Also, it adds a small break. I want to keep like that.
00:29:400 (4) - Curved a bit.

Thanks!

Cup

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Sanyi

236 posts

Joined November 2015

Sanyi 2018-04-13T11:21:53+00:00

Nokashi wrote:
Sanyi's Rain
00:07:350 - 00:36:150 - These bad boys could be mapped for the extra density here, would also make rhythm more interesting I already told Ascendance that I don't wanna map them because I only mapped the main melody sounds, if I would add these notes it would be inconsistent emphasis. If you guys really wanna see it changed I will do it but I prefer to not add these notes
00:22:950 (2) - Again kinda random drum sampleset Will talk to Dapu since he hitsounded the set
Pretty cute diff Thanks!

Thanks for modding!

Dapulezatos

317 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Dapulezatos 2018-04-13T18:04:38+00:00

Nokashi wrote:
Hello Hello! I'm finally here from the sd_orchard queue. Sorry for that but Holidays happened!

Ran through metadata with people ( it was a spooky ride ) but now its confirmed on my end too! Can never be too sure

General
[list:1337]Theres a pretty uneven way HS are used from cup/salad and then platter and up. Not gonna pop yet cause I'd like to see your own opinion, and also clear away some wonky stuff i have in mind that would be better talked about in IRC
Salad
1. 00:02:400 (3,4) - I dont think rhythm presented here really corresponds with the prominent synth. Consider trying this out instead. This places more emphasis on the stronger synth rather than ovelapping it with weaker beats getting mapped. Ticker starts on 00:02:400 - Don't really want to put 1/2 in the beginning of song to be honest. At first, I was gonna put a pattern like given example. But seems it's a bit harsh for some players so I think it's better to not put 1/2 at the beginning. Tho it's salad diff.
2. 00:23:550 (6,1,2,1) - I find this a bit too tame to be in the middle of the kiai, even if you wanted to go for the waker movements, theres no reason to reduce density as well Changed the pattern.
3. 00:21:000 (3,1,2) - 00:25:800 (3,1,2) - Comparing these two I find the contrast in spacing too noticable even though the sound is consistent Ok re-check it back and make sure the spacings are consistent. Should be fine now.
Platter
1. 00:05:700 (4,1) - This is pretty weak of a transition imo, having it be linear doesnt help either, Having 00:05:700 (4,1) - this be a direction change would emphasize it quite well Okay
2. 00:10:500 (7) - Consider having this be a 1/2 slider instead, since its pretty similar of a sound like 00:10:800 (1) - and connect them with a HDash to signal the stanza change, would work expeptionally well, pattern right now feels really underwhelming Changed to 1/2 slider
3. 00:22:950 - Drum sampleset outta nowhere here, is this intentional? I doubt it is. Please investigate Oh, my bad. Sorry ;w;
4. 00:34:500 (4,1) - Similar point as 00:05:700 (4,1) - Since this part is copied and the issue is retained Ok
And that's a wrap, apply these and call me back over the HS issue I wanted to discuss!
For Sanyi's HS. I think I fixed it. Yes It's random caused by missclick or something we don't expect to happen :shrug:

Dea ex machina

535 posts

Joined January 2014

Dea ex machina 2018-04-14T19:05:14+00:00

all applied. thanks for the check : )

fin~

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Nokashi

304 posts

Joined December 2014

Nokashi 2018-04-23T16:46:13+00:00

After a thourough hitsound recheck and some tweaks regarding volume and sampleset edits, we are ready to go!

Rebubbled!

IRC Log

2018-04-23 18:20 Nokashi: yes hello
2018-04-23 18:20 Nokashi: we can finally do this!
2018-04-23 18:50 Dapuluous: Oof. Sorry. I didn't realize you PM'ed me :3
2018-04-23 18:50 Nokashi: \o /
2018-04-23 18:51 Dapuluous: Give me a min to restart
2018-04-23 18:51 Nokashi: aight
2018-04-23 18:54 Dapuluous: Ok done
2018-04-23 18:54 Dapuluous: Tell me if you want to start owo
2018-04-23 18:54 Nokashi: ALRIGHT 
2018-04-23 18:54 Nokashi: caps
2018-04-23 18:55 Nokashi: lets start
2018-04-23 18:55 Nokashi: my main issue with this is the hitsounding 
2018-04-23 18:55 Nokashi:  compare the hitsounding on platter cup and salad
2018-04-23 18:55 Nokashi: with rain overdose
2018-04-23 18:55 Nokashi: the hitsounding on kiai is sooo different 
2018-04-23 18:55 Nokashi: some additions are missing
2018-04-23 18:55 Dapuluous: I see
2018-04-23 18:55 Nokashi: on lower diffs 
2018-04-23 18:56 Nokashi: can you confirm this being an inconsistency
2018-04-23 18:56 Nokashi: or is there reasoning behind this
2018-04-23 18:56 Dapuluous: I'm bad at HS ing :/
2018-04-23 18:57 Dapuluous: Err, I guess yes. But I have no idea what should I do with lower diff HS
2018-04-23 18:57 Nokashi: keep it the same as higher ones
2018-04-23 18:57 Nokashi: the same notes dont have the addition on lower diffs 
2018-04-23 18:58 Dapuluous: Err sorry. What?
2018-04-23 18:58 Nokashi: let me explain
2018-04-23 18:59 Nokashi: i have a feeling 
2018-04-23 18:59 Nokashi: you misplaced sampleset
2018-04-23 19:00 Nokashi: cup platter and salad have Drum C1
2018-04-23 19:00 Nokashi: rain overdose have Normal C1
2018-04-23 19:01 Nokashi: kiai should have 
2018-04-23 19:01 Nokashi: Normal C1 sampleset
2018-04-23 19:01 Nokashi: on all diffs
2018-04-23 19:01 Nokashi: 00:20:400 - this green line
2018-04-23 19:01 Dapuluous: Ok got it
2018-04-23 19:02 Nokashi: 00:23:250 - Fix this hs as well
2018-04-23 19:02 Nokashi: on overdose
2018-04-23 19:02 Nokashi: should be drum addition
2018-04-23 19:02 Nokashi: not normal addition
2018-04-23 19:03 Nokashi: when you update tell me so i can check
2018-04-23 19:07 Dapuluous: Wait, I don't understand what you did tell me on overdose :/
2018-04-23 19:08 Nokashi: 00:23:100 (2) - 
2018-04-23 19:08 Nokashi: click on sliderend
2018-04-23 19:08 Nokashi: and change additions
2018-04-23 19:08 Nokashi: to drum
2018-04-23 19:08 Nokashi: http://puu.sh/A91RU/3d70d0f4eb.jpg
2018-04-23 19:09 Nokashi: Additions : Drum
2018-04-23 19:09 Dapuluous: Ohh
2018-04-23 19:13 Dapuluous: I only need to fix these point or I need to re-check this diff?
2018-04-23 19:13 Nokashi: fix those to begin with 
2018-04-23 19:13 Nokashi: and update
2018-04-23 19:13 Nokashi: and ill see
2018-04-23 19:15 Dapuluous: Ok updated
2018-04-23 19:16 Nokashi: i also dont really like the volumes 
2018-04-23 19:16 Nokashi: there isnt much contrast 
2018-04-23 19:17 Nokashi: between kiai and non kiai
2018-04-23 19:17 Nokashi: 45 -> 50
2018-04-23 19:17 Nokashi: then 35
2018-04-23 19:17 Nokashi: which is uneven
2018-04-23 19:17 Nokashi: try uhh 35 -> 55 -> 35
2018-04-23 19:18 Dapuluous: On it
2018-04-23 19:19 Dapuluous: Ok done
2018-04-23 19:20 Nokashi: update
2018-04-23 19:21 Dapuluous: Done
2018-04-23 19:22 Nokashi: hmm
2018-04-23 19:23 Nokashi: do u think 35 is too silent 
2018-04-23 19:23 Nokashi: maybe we can bump both
2018-04-23 19:23 Dapuluous: Err, no?
2018-04-23 19:24 Dapuluous: what you mean with bump both O.o?
2018-04-23 19:24 Nokashi: increase volume of both
2018-04-23 19:24 Nokashi: do like 
2018-04-23 19:24 Nokashi: 45 -> 65 -> 45
2018-04-23 19:24 Nokashi: but im not sure
2018-04-23 19:28 Dapuluous: Well ok. It's loud & clear
2018-04-23 19:28 Dapuluous: Update again?
2018-04-23 19:28 Nokashi: update 
2018-04-23 19:28 Nokashi: yeah
2018-04-23 19:28 Nokashi: lets see how this is 
2018-04-23 19:28 Nokashi: sorry for this but its best that we settle these now 
2018-04-23 19:29 Dapuluous: Ok updated
2018-04-23 19:30 Nokashi: Alright i think this is fine 
2018-04-23 19:30 Nokashi: ill do a quick recheck then rebubble
2018-04-23 19:30 Nokashi: youll have to ping ascendance
2018-04-23 19:31 Dapuluous: For?
2018-04-23 19:31 Nokashi: there have been a lot of changes for me 
2018-04-23 19:31 Nokashi: in terms of hitsounding the volume changes
2018-04-23 19:32 Nokashi: so im gonna rebubble just to be sure
2018-04-23 19:32 Nokashi: and then ascendance can qual
2018-04-23 19:32 Nokashi: after 24 hours
2018-04-23 19:32 Dapuluous: Ohh
2018-04-23 19:32 Nokashi: he can also share his opinion on the changes 
2018-04-23 19:32 Dapuluous: Ok
2018-04-23 19:33 Nokashi: so its the safest way
2018-04-23 19:35 Nokashi: 00:22:950 - OOO
2018-04-23 19:35 Nokashi: found another addition error 
2018-04-23 19:35 Nokashi: on platter
2018-04-23 19:35 Nokashi: those hitsounds!
2018-04-23 19:36 Dapuluous: We
2018-04-23 19:36 Dapuluous: Ok done
2018-04-23 19:36 Dapuluous: Anything else?
2018-04-23 19:36 Nokashi: lemme see
2018-04-23 19:42 Nokashi: everything else is fine 
2018-04-23 19:42 Nokashi: update
2018-04-23 19:43 Dapuluous: Done
2018-04-23 19:43 Nokashi: awesome

Dapulezatos

317 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Dapulezatos 2018-04-24T15:49:43+00:00

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2018-04-24T17:48:28+00:00

kait:

00:15:600 (1) - can you split this into circle + 1/2 slider to represent 00:15:750 - better

after this, call me back

Dea ex machina

535 posts

Joined January 2014

Dea ex machina 2018-04-24T21:40:17+00:00

applied, not a fan of the direction this difficulty went, time to finish this so i can forget about it

osu file format v14

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