MrSergio wrote:

in case next modders want the updated ver: https://mrsergio.s-ul.eu/2k5WHCwR.rar
(I tried some custom hitsounding but please ignore it for now)

1. 00:01:554 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Since the introduction is relatively calm, what about a rhythm like this? Currently, it's all 1/1 just like the rest of the map, so when the music really kicks in at 00:14:107 - it doesn't stand out as much as it could.
2. 00:03:123 (3,1) - this overlap doesn't look very snazzy, don't you think this could be avoided?
   >00:10:968 (1,3) - same here.
   >00:25:091 (3,1) - yea
3. 00:06:261 (3,4) - could be an even better parallel
   >00:39:213 (1,2) - same
4. 00:10:968 (1) - Maybe this could be two circles instead? since 00:10:576 - and 00:11:361 - are similar, it would be nice to have both clickable to emphasize their similarity.
5. 00:29:798 (1,2,3,4) - I'd suggest widening this pattern a bit rather than using two equilateral triangles. Right now, it could be easily misread as this instead since 2,3 are both the same distances from 1,4 and appear at around the same time, and 1 kind of points at both of them. (which is why 01:15:303 (3,4,5,1) - 01:19:226 (4,1,2,3) - do work since the slider points very clearly at the next circle)
6. 00:41:567 (4) - Since this is for that weird wadadodoadle sound, what about making the angle a bit more exaggerated? o: like http://puu.sh/y1rP2/b9fe297dc3.jpg . Right now it's a bit flat and doesn't fully bring out the weird sound it follows by being angled, in my opinion.
7. 01:06:673 (4,1) - I think if you're gonna do a cool crossover between objects like this, it'd be best to move the entire pattern down a bit. atm it's really close to the health bar, so that combined with the new pattern idea (which you only use once? :c) ends up looking really cramped :s
8. 01:35:702 (1,2) - 01:41:979 (3,4) - these are oddly close compared to other placements in the difficulty, it looks kind of like you ran out of screen space ><
9. 01:53:355 (1) - Maybe make this a straight slider instead so 01:49:824 (1,2,1,2) - could go straight-curved-straight-curved? :0

1. 00:01:554 (1,2) - you use this type of spacing throughout the map for circles 1/2 after a slider, but it's really so tight together it looks like a 1/4 gap compared to how the rest of the 1/2s are spaced. It's really easy to get confused by. Please consider using the same spacing for all 1/2s or distinguishing these in a different way.
   >00:12:538 (3,4,5) - plus, this combination of the low spacing + stack afterwards just looks.. odd.
2. 00:26:660 (1,2,3,4,5) - Entire thing looks unneccesarily crowded when even (5) is going under (1)..
3. 00:28:033 (4,5) - What about extending (4) to end at 00:28:621 - instead, so that 00:28:033 (4,5) - and 00:31:171 (4,5) - are different to differentiate between the different rhythms of the highpitchedinstrumentthing ?
4. 00:34:506 (4) - possibly stack this one's tail under the head of 00:32:936 (1) - , I think it could allow you to tidy the current overlap without changing very much.
5. 01:18:049 (3,4,5) - Move this to the left some? So that it could be like this (~smooth~) instead of how it currently is.
6. 01:21:384 (4,5) - I don't see why you didn't just use a regular stack here.
7. 01:34:133 (5,1) - 🤔 this overlaps pretty badly but at the same time i can't think of a simple suggestion since you ran yourself into a corner.. uhhh... i believe in you (´｡• ᵕ •｡`)!!

1. 00:18:814 (1,2,3) - I dont really understand why this is so much less intense than 00:15:676 (1,2,3,4) - , it feels out of place and unnatural to have 3 as just the 1/1 reverse in comparison to the rhythm used earlier. With 00:16:657 - 00:17:049 - the first time having this sound twice, and the second time having it three times 00:19:403 - 00:19:795 - 00:20:187 - , I would've expected the second combo listed to be a bit harder, if anything.
2. 00:24:306 (3,4) - http://puu.sh/y1uSt/58bb0c3bac.jpg what do you think about potentially using a rhythm like this? Atm it's odd that 00:24:895 - is skipped entirely :s
3. 00:45:588 (1,1) - it felt extremely lacking here to gloss over this section with just spinners, especially when it's mapped in every other difficulty in the set.
   edit: after seeing your response to these spinners being pointed out in another mod, I have formed a more concrete rhythm suggestion as an idea of how to map it while not being too much if at all harder than the rest of the map, while remaining to be what I think is still fitting to the song.
   first note being at 00:45:490
4. 01:04:319 (1,2,3,4,5) - How about moving this entire pattern down to where it'd start around, like, x:318 y:341? two reasons:
   - 01:05:888 (5) - gets really close to the top when it could be moved down without the pattern itself changing like mentioned above.
   - 01:05:888 (5,6,7) - the mix of overlap and stack here looks a bit cramped/odd/gross/weird (i can't figure out the right word for it, it just doesnt look nice like your other intentional overlaps do)
5. 01:16:872 (1,2,3,4) - i really like this pattern! Though I think it could maybe be imroved by moving (4) to where it goes under (2) the same amount that (3) does. so it could make a nice continuous looking line.. curve.. thing!.
6. 01:18:442 (1) - While I think you're extending this so that 01:18:442 (1,2,3) - is all continuous 1/4 apart to reflect the held sounds, this extended slider ends up feeling wrong when it goes over so many sounds at 01:18:834 - to end on relatively nothing. Same goes for 01:24:718 (1) -
   > compare to 01:30:995 (1,2,3) - this which is 👌

1. 00:22:541 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Right now, the outer triangle isn't evenly spaced around the stack in the center due to the stacking. could use a very careful adjustment so that the visuals are more even.
2. 00:24:895 (5,6,1) - the triple here is weird because 00:24:698 (4,5) - would have the player more focused on the gutairstringpluckinstrumentthingy , but rapidly switching from following that to the 1/4 takes away from that. Maybe delete (6) and place this similar to how you did 00:21:168 (5,6,7,1) - ?
3. 00:27:248 (4) - 00:28:817 (4) - I'm not sure what these supposed to be following. There isn't really anything very audibly obvious, and as a result it feels really lacking, since they mostly sound like they're reversing to nothing. Especially so when compared to the reverse sliders in this section 00:39:213 - which are following more noticable flowing string sounds.
4. 00:29:210 (5) - versus 01:08:438 (4) - hm. I think for 00:29:210 - this time, using the same 1/6 slider + circle rhythm as you did later on could be better, as right now the 1/2 slider for the 1/6 sounds kind of wonky when combined when clicking to with the audibly slower 1/4 immediately afterwards instead.
5. 00:30:975 (2) - while this stacks with 00:31:760 (3) - , they're barely visible at the same time and so it ends up looking like a more sloppy overlap with 00:31:367 (1) - or 00:31:662 (2) - . I'd suggest trying to figure out a different position for it.

1. Hi I really like this difficulty it's cool
2. 00:05:738 (1,2,3) - I think this would look better if (3) were to overlap with the bend of 00:06:261 (1) - instead, as that is the one you're seeing the hitburst of when 00:06:261 (1) - is played. currently with (2) on it, it looks a bit off during gameplay.
3. 00:12:047 - the sound here is fairly faint and hard to hear. Maybe delete this note? I think it'd play a bit more naturally as a triple+jump instead.
4. 01:44:725 (5) - no nc for the streamjump? You did that during 00:50:197 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - .

Noffy wrote:

zoom
i am the slowest fastest in all the land

MrSergio wrote:

in case next modders want the updated ver: https://mrsergio.s-ul.eu/2k5WHCwR.rar
(I tried some custom hitsounding but please ignore it for now)

thank you mrsergio

[MrSergio's ADVANCED]

1. 00:18:814 (1,2,3) - I dont really understand why this is so much less intense than 00:15:676 (1,2,3,4) - , it feels out of place and unnatural to have 3 as just the 1/1 reverse in comparison to the rhythm used earlier. With 00:16:657 - 00:17:049 - the first time having this sound twice, and the second time having it three times 00:19:403 - 00:19:795 - 00:20:187 - , I would've expected the second combo listed to be a bit harder, if anything.
   I generally see no reason as to why a later pattern should be harder in any case.
   The reason why I mapped that sound like that is because it is like that: first instance uses a 1/2, second instance uses a 1/1.
   With the proposed logic, I see no reason to change what the song does
2. 00:24:306 (3,4) - http://puu.sh/y1uSt/58bb0c3bac.jpg what do you think about potentially using a rhythm like this? Atm it's odd that 00:24:895 - is skipped entirely :s
   just the timeline doesn't help since that rhythm can be felt differently based on placement.
   What's more, the beat at 00:24:895 - is not part of the instrument's rhythm I am following so I see no reason to make the map more intense than needed here lol. It's the intro after all and if you compare the whole spread you can see that adding too much 1/2 is not ideal for this diff. (breaks are important in any map)
3. 00:45:588 (1,1) - it felt extremely lacking here to gloss over this section with just spinners, especially when it's mapped in every other difficulty in the set.
   edit: after seeing your response to these spinners being pointed out in another mod, I have formed a more concrete rhythm suggestion as an idea of how to map it while not being too much if at all harder than the rest of the map, while remaining to be what I think is still fitting to the song.
   first note being at 00:45:490
   you probably didn't see that that part has a constant stream and the upper diffs showed that. I can't possibly choose to map some beats over others just because of some pattern I wanna make (and again, the timeline alone tells me nothing if we talk about making new patterns). This is also a hard so if I want to make the map follow a logic pertinent with the song I should make this last part on the spinners harder than before, but that would create a too high diff spike.
   Reminder that this is a Hard, so I have to cap its difficulty somewhere. In this case, 00:43:332 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1) - marks the upper most limit
4. 01:04:319 (1,2,3,4,5) - How about moving this entire pattern down to where it'd start around, like, x:318 y:341? two reasons:
   - 01:05:888 (5) - gets really close to the top when it could be moved down without the pattern itself changing like mentioned above.
   - 01:05:888 (5,6,7) - the mix of overlap and stack here looks a bit cramped/odd/gross/weird (i can't figure out the right word for it, it just doesnt look nice like your other intentional overlaps do)
   to the first reason I have just this: https://i.imgur.com/6c7pj45.png
   to the second reason I can say it's just personal, since that's still a clean overlap. If I were to rate my own overlaps, 00:21:168 (4,5) - would be the worst of all tbh xD
5. 01:16:872 (1,2,3,4) - i really like this pattern! Though I think it could maybe be imroved by moving (4) to where it goes under (2) the same amount that (3) does. so it could make a nice continuous looking line.. curve.. thing!.
   kinda nazi but why not
6. 01:18:442 (1) - While I think you're extending this so that 01:18:442 (1,2,3) - is all continuous 1/4 apart to reflect the held sounds, this extended slider ends up feeling wrong when it goes over so many sounds at 01:18:834 - to end on relatively nothing. Same goes for 01:24:718 (1) -
   > compare to 01:30:995 (1,2,3) - this which is 👌
   alright, I wasn't convinced myself too much about it and now that I look back at it it might be too varied to use that pattern for just two instances.

1. What made me believe that is this stream 00:07:830 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - . It is extremely similar to your piano stream structure while it is entirely a different layer. You show same kind of mapping on different layers.
2. 00:14:107 - Firstly this section full of the lit bass guitar doesn't follow that in the map... fully. 00:15:676 (1) - The sliderend of this is a strong bass guitar hit, yet it is mapped passively. Not sure what is the intention of that, since there doesn't seem anything else to be followed right now or given priority to, and I believe such lit bass guitar does wonders for this part of the song, meaning it should at least be clickable.
3. 00:16:460 (3) - Biggest insult to the bass guitar is this slider, which goes over the bass guitar, fully ignoring it, and ends on a random 1/4 drum, which should also be considered to be clickable. 00:19:599 (3) - this too.
4. 00:18:226 (5,6,7) - Giving this example of a rhythm I highly suggest from a randomly picked part https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9357377 if you try it out, I think you will notice how it feels great to tap on the most noticeable sound fully. When every bass guitar sound is clicked I just feel fulfilled you know? And once again I insist in taking another look in the section and try to make much more bass guitar sounds have a clickable note, not passive on sliderends or even worse. There are much more examples I could give, but if you agree with me, it would be the best if you focused on your own.
5. 00:30:779 (5,6,7) - I think that I have noticed you switching to primarily follow piano, and if you do you should make 00:31:171 - a clickable note. You tend to make all important sounding piano sounds a clickable note.
6. 00:32:054 - wo this is burning my ears, please do follow it here. Too loud for anyone to feel indifferent after not tapping it.
7. 00:38:036 (3) - same here. It is also the ending of a section suggesting the highest point in the section, deserving no holding back with spacing or rhythm. The slider end should be a circle.
8. 00:39:213 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Even though it is mapped in its same structure and looks good, I still feel like it is a flaw, and could be worked with in order to really express the song. Musically 00:39:213 (1,2,3,4) - is identical to 00:39:605 (5,6,7,8) - is identical to 00:39:998 (1,2,3,4) -, the same old repeating piano. In the map for some reason 00:39:998 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this whole stream is given emphasis, even though there is a major difference (musically) between first four and 00:40:390 (5,6,7,8,1) - which are noticeably more intense, with louder piano sounds on each beat. This is a problem because I don't feel the map complementing the song's piano variable intensity. The piano, oh my, sounds so lit and unique to the song.
9. 00:39:900 (8,1) - If you intend on using emphasis where the new comboed note has the spacing of the combo it is in, so should the same be done on the whole section to avoid confusion: 00:45:391 (8,1) - 00:42:253 (8,1) -, 00:48:530 (8,1,8,1) - this especially feels a bit uncomfortable and not really understandable.
10. 00:41:567 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - There are many examples of the map not changing its spacing to correlate a change in the song. The first four notes in the song are not as important as the following four 00:41:959 (5,6,7,8) - which are a lot louder, but in the map not emphasized at all. Further more to better follow the piano you should keep combos from 1 to 4, since the piano seems to break and have a change on every white tick. 00:42:351 (1,3,7) - and exception to that would be this because there is some weird stuff going on and could be better emphasized with 1/4 slider usage to not make it too awkward.
11. 00:44:705 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Next, this should, imo, be given the biggest spacing (bigger than 00:41:567 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ) since it sounds like a peak, right on the end of the phrase, just happening before resetting the section again in the song. Stuff I mentioned in the first half of the section of course applies to the second one as well.
12. 01:40:409 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I don't see a reason for this to have such lower spacing than 01:41:194 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - when there doesn't seem to be anything in the song that varies between the combos.
13. Also, I think that going full circles is fine, but in the future, I think you should try to follow the weird bits in the sections that the song offers: 01:41:194 (1,3,7,1) - Notice how they're all the same weird sound. They, for one, could be nced weirdly, and then played with 1/4 sliders in order to express that unique part of the section that the song has. I'd rather not give examples as there are countless ways to interpret that.
14. 01:46:686 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Another spot of spacing choices that I find questionable. Just because the map is ending, I don't think you should force a buildup if the song doesn't back it up. I hear no significant difference in the song between the first and last stream.

ShogunMoon wrote:

• Real's EXHAUST

1. 01:22:659 - map this sound, you mapped these sounds 01:19:815 (7,8,1) - 01:20:991 (4,5,6) - but not this 01:22:659 - why, i can't understand? :v
2. 01:35:212 - ^

they're 1/6 here, compared to the other timestamps you mentioned which are 1/4. i wanna emphasize the bass with those 2 sliders, and i couldn't really map them any other way if i were to map the 1/6 with a reverse slider

Noffy wrote:

[Real's EXHAUST]
happy birthday realazy thanks you too

1. 00:22:541 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Right now, the outer triangle isn't evenly spaced around the stack in the center due to the stacking. could use a very careful adjustment so that the visuals are more even. i think it's a pretty minor thing to notice, the spacing is too low so trying to adjust the triangle according to the stacks would make this way too cluttered, considering the pattern is already pretty cramped
2. 00:24:895 (5,6,1) - the triple here is weird because 00:24:698 (4,5) - would have the player more focused on the gutairstringpluckinstrumentthingy , but rapidly switching from following that to the 1/4 takes away from that. Maybe delete (6) and place this similar to how you did 00:21:168 (5,6,7,1) - ? the last timestamp links to a similar sounding part yet there isn't any triple there, so i can't really do the same. i replaced the reverse slider with a triple though, so the player gets to focus on the bass more
3. 00:27:248 (4) - 00:28:817 (4) - I'm not sure what these supposed to be following. There isn't really anything very audibly obvious, and as a result it feels really lacking, since they mostly sound like they're reversing to nothing. Especially so when compared to the reverse sliders in this section 00:39:213 - which are following more noticable flowing string sounds. there are pretty noticeable bass triples in the background though even if they're quieter than what you heard previously in the song, so a reverse slider would fit the lower intensity better
4. 00:29:210 (5) - versus 01:08:438 (4) - hm. I think for 00:29:210 - this time, using the same 1/6 slider + circle rhythm as you did later on could be better, as right now the 1/2 slider for the 1/6 sounds kind of wonky when combined when clicking to with the audibly slower 1/4 immediately afterwards instead. once again, different sections. the first timestamp is 1/6 going immediately into a 1/4 triple, rather than a simple 1/6 quad followed by 1/2 notes. since my focus is on the melody when it's there, i want to make this triple clickable, which is why i use a 1/4 slider to cover up the 1/6 as opposed to not mapping anything, which wouldn't really show any difference in the song
5. 00:30:975 (2) - while this stacks with 00:31:760 (3) - , they're barely visible at the same time and so it ends up looking like a more sloppy overlap with 00:31:367 (1) - or 00:31:662 (2) - . I'd suggest trying to figure out a different position for it.
   i don't see the issue here though? how does it look like a messy overlap when it's stacked with 00:31:760 (3) - and the visual spacing with 00:31:367 (1,2) - stays consistent..?

Ohwow wrote:

m4m from sergio

could 東方 be redundant in tags? (appears in source as well) no, since it's part of the 東方Project tag that's all in one so it's not redundant
Why no hitsounds... soontm

[BASIC]
00:07:830 (1,2) - Could line these 2 objects up a bit better just to make it look a tad bit better done
00:25:875 (4) - slightly touching the health bar done
00:29:798 (1,3) - Could space the slider and (3) implied slider movement does the trick imo in indicating where next note is. I don't think this will cause confusion.
00:43:920 (3) - slightly touching health bar done
00:44:705 (4,2) - slightly touching, could space it just a bit farther by the time the second sldier is popping in the other one is already faded out so the overlap isn't an issue
00:48:628 (1) - touching health bar done
01:06:673 (4,1) - kinda disagree with this overlap, it stands out way too much and it doesn't look too pretty either. I think it's mroe of an issue of readability, so I fixed it
01:35:702 (1,2) - visually, they are really close to touching. Seems like you're running out of space, so i'd recommend moving 01:34:133 (4,5,1) - to the lower right a bit to give you some more space (using DS to move of course) changed this up a bit
01:29:425 (1) - Is touching the OD (accuracy) bar, might want to bring it up a bit. done
01:38:840 (1,2,3) - right now the (3) is closer to the slider body than (2) is, which is counter-intuitive. Try to make it at least equally spaced (triangle) or maybe space 3 farther so the visual spacing is more intuitive. ended up chaging a bunch of patterns around here
01:41:979 (3,4) - same close to touching ^
01:51:590 (2) - close to health bar moved up a bit

[NOVICE]
00:01:554 (1,2) - 00:04:692 (1,2) - vs 00:15:676 (3,4) - 01:21:580 (5,6) - Is there a reason why you have inconsistent DS for these 1/2 rhythms? You used it kinda randomly throughout the whole song. oops meant to fix that a while ago
00:25:875 (4,1) - Should blanket better tbh, it's really close to blanketting so might as well.
00:31:760 (5) - maybe split into 2 circles to map that flute sound. this aprt is already pretty dense rhythm wise. I don't want to overdo it
01:21:384 (4,5) - stack? done

[GRAVITY OF THE MOON]
00:16:657 - 00:17:049 - Should map this sound, it really stands out in the music. I'm following something else here+ following that bass consistently would be terrible since it has really obnoxious rhythm. I won't just follow it on a one off moment
01:27:856 (1,2,3,4) - I wouldn't overuse the use of 1/4 rhythm gaps between these sliders. I recommend shortening this one to a regular 1/2 I don't think randomly shortening these in the middle of the kia would actually make it better. I'm following the main melody throughout so just changing it here would break consistency
streams are pretty cool :3
eh the main problem i have with this diff is that the use of 1/4 rhythm gaps felt overused. There are sounds on the red tick most of the time (the tick noise) so it make sense to map regular 1/2 rhythms more. just because a sound is there doesn't mean you need to map it

That's it, hope this helps!

ShogunMoon wrote:

m4m sergioo ~

• General

1. where are name of gds on tags? added
2. preview point isn't aligned as far as I know it doesn't need to be snapped and I'm too lazy to go back through all the diffs and resnap it

• BASIC

1. Remove widescreen support there's no sb
2. 00:03:907 (4) - touch the drain bar https://puu.sh/y0qYA/635ac740d4.png done
3. 00:35:290 (4,3) - tbh this overlap doesn't look good :v both objects are never on screen at the same time + the overlap really isn't apparent
4. 00:41:567 (4) - i think you can curved it because these sliders are similar 00:39:213 (1,2) - so why not the 2 others 00:40:782 (3,4) I wanted to show change due to the unique sound on here. That's why I have the shape different
5. 00:43:920 (3) - touch the drain bar fixed on previous mod
6. 01:23:149 (1) - move to x:127 y:333 for triangle xd https://puu.sh/y0rfb/d83a542264.png moved to x:126 y:332
7. 01:51:590 (2,1) - umm i increase more blanket, it's should be more attractive blanket

• NOVICE

1. remove widescreen support there's no sb
2. omg check aimod v: I'm checkign it and there's nothing wrong
3. 00:29:210 - why there isn't a note for more emphasize density would be too high
4. 00:25:875 (4,1) - imperfect blanket blanket
5. 00:28:621 (5) - make it straight should work better i think made into curve
6. 00:35:486 - 00:35:682 - 00:35:879 - map these sounds with a slider renverse, i don't understand why you ignoring these sounds done but with 2 1/2 sliders. Works better than reverses
7. 01:15:303 (3,4,5,1) - i'm not fan of this flow i don't think that it can work well tbh, plus it's not really attractive umm maybe try something like this https://puu.sh/y0sb7/a82ab6289d.png changed but did my own thing
8. 01:21:384 (4,5) - not really stacked they are tho???

• GRAVITY OF THE MOON

1. 01:03:535 (3,1,2,3) - there are too close, increase a little more spacing like you did here 01:08:242 (2,1,2,3) done

gl!~

Noffy wrote:

zoom
i am the slowest fastest in all the land

[BASIC]

1. 00:01:554 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Since the introduction is relatively calm, what about a rhythm like this? Currently, it's all 1/1 just like the rest of the map, so when the music really kicks in at 00:14:107 - it doesn't stand out as much as it could. redid rhythms here
2. 00:03:123 (3,1) - this overlap doesn't look very snazzy, don't you think this could be avoided?
   >00:10:968 (1,3) - same here.
   >00:25:091 (3,1) - yea
   I personally don't have an issue with these overlaps and I don't see how they coudl affect the map other than how it looks
3. 00:06:261 (3,4) - could be an even better parallel this got changed when I changed rhythms above
   >00:39:213 (1,2) - same minor but fixed
4. 00:10:968 (1) - Maybe this could be two circles instead? since 00:10:576 - and 00:11:361 - are similar, it would be nice to have both clickable to emphasize their similarity. I mapped this section with 2 sliders becaue I wanted to show the similarities between 00:10:968 - and 00:11:753 -
5. 00:29:798 (1,2,3,4) - I'd suggest widening this pattern a bit rather than using two equilateral triangles. Right now, it could be easily misread as this instead since 2,3 are both the same distances from 1,4 and appear at around the same time, and 1 kind of points at both of them. (which is why 01:15:303 (3,4,5,1) - 01:19:226 (4,1,2,3) - do work since the slider points very clearly at the next circle) widened
6. 00:41:567 (4) - Since this is for that weird wadadodoadle sound, what about making the angle a bit more exaggerated? o: like http://puu.sh/y1rP2/b9fe297dc3.jpg . Right now it's a bit flat and doesn't fully bring out the weird sound it follows by being angled, in my opinion. wadadodoadled it
7. 01:06:673 (4,1) - I think if you're gonna do a cool crossover between objects like this, it'd be best to move the entire pattern down a bit. atm it's really close to the health bar, so that combined with the new pattern idea (which you only use once? :c) ends up looking really cramped :s This got changed quite a bit in a previous mod so it doesn't really apply anymore
8. 01:35:702 (1,2) - 01:41:979 (3,4) - these are oddly close compared to other placements in the difficulty, it looks kind of like you ran out of screen space >< spaced them apart
9. 01:53:355 (1) - Maybe make this a straight slider instead so 01:49:824 (1,2,1,2) - could go straight-curved-straight-curved? :0 done

[NOVICE]

1. 00:01:554 (1,2) - you use this type of spacing throughout the map for circles 1/2 after a slider, but it's really so tight together it looks like a 1/4 gap compared to how the rest of the 1/2s are spaced. It's really easy to get confused by. Please consider using the same spacing for all 1/2s or distinguishing these in a different way. ya., self modded this earlier, made consistent 1/2 spacing
   >00:12:538 (3,4,5) - plus, this combination of the low spacing + stack afterwards just looks.. odd.
2. 00:26:660 (1,2,3,4,5) - Entire thing looks unneccesarily crowded when even (5) is going under (1).. moved 5 so it doesn't overlap; but kep the 1-4 overlap
3. 00:28:033 (4,5) - What about extending (4) to end at 00:28:621 - instead, so that 00:28:033 (4,5) - and 00:31:171 (4,5) - are different to differentiate between the different rhythms of the highpitchedinstrumentthing ? done
4. 00:34:506 (4) - possibly stack this one's tail under the head of 00:32:936 (1) - , I think it could allow you to tidy the current overlap without changing very much. done
5. 01:18:049 (3,4,5) - Move this to the left some? So that it could be like this (~smooth~) instead of how it currently is. chnaged in another mod
6. 01:21:384 (4,5) - I don't see why you didn't just use a regular stack here. it is a regular stack tho??
7. 01:34:133 (5,1) - 🤔 this overlaps pretty badly but at the same time i can't think of a simple suggestion since you ran yourself into a corner.. uhhh... i believe in you (´｡• ᵕ •｡`)!! Your believing made it possible, thanks!!

[GRAVITY OF THE MOON]

1. Hi I really like this difficulty it's cool thanks!
2. 00:05:738 (1,2,3) - I think this would look better if (3) were to overlap with the bend of 00:06:261 (1) - instead, as that is the one you're seeing the hitburst of when 00:06:261 (1) - is played. currently with (2) on it, it looks a bit off during gameplay. bend overlapped
3. 00:12:047 - the sound here is fairly faint and hard to hear. Maybe delete this note? I think it'd play a bit more naturally as a triple+jump instead. that sound is pretty loud ot me
4. 01:44:725 (5) - no nc for the streamjump? You did that during 00:50:197 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - fixeedddddd

MaridiuS wrote:

Mod from my queue.

[Gravity of the moon]
So what I've noticed and felt while playing and modding the map, was that it wasn't really expressive. To me it seemed like you're making patterns based on what you're used to, and what you feel comfortable making, while it ended up in my opinion not expressing the song well enough. Every song is special, and the map should express that special part of it the strongest.

1. What made me believe that is this stream 00:07:830 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - . It is extremely similar to your piano stream structure while it is entirely a different layer. You show same kind of mapping on different layers. I'm utilizing a similar concept throughout the map, of course that kind of thing happens. It doesn't stop me from still correctly representing the different variations of the song tho
2. 00:14:107 - Firstly this section full of the lit bass guitar doesn't follow that in the map... fully. 00:15:676 (1) - The sliderend of this is a strong bass guitar hit, yet it is mapped passively. Not sure what is the intention of that, since there doesn't seem anything else to be followed right now or given priority to, and I believe such lit bass guitar does wonders for this part of the song, meaning it should at least be clickable. I completely disagree. I decided not to follow the bass anywhere for the song because I prefer to give priority to the main melody over it. I saw the backgrounds drums as closer to the melody than the bass (because the drums are also there consistently through the song and most of my decisisons are based on that) and decided to follow those instead. I'm not saying that following the drums is wrong, but it's not part of my interpretation of what makes the song special or important, thus I didn't follow it.
3. 00:16:460 (3) - Biggest insult to the bass guitar is this slider, which goes over the bass guitar, fully ignoring it, and ends on a random 1/4 drum, which should also be considered to be clickable. 00:19:599 (3) - this too. refer to previous paragraph
4. 00:18:226 (5,6,7) - Giving this example of a rhythm I highly suggest from a randomly picked part https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9357377 if you try it out, I think you will notice how it feels great to tap on the most noticeable sound fully. When every bass guitar sound is clicked I just feel fulfilled you know? And once again I insist in taking another look in the section and try to make much more bass guitar sounds have a clickable note, not passive on sliderends or even worse. There are much more examples I could give, but if you agree with me, it would be the best if you focused on your own.
5. 00:30:779 (5,6,7) - I think that I have noticed you switching to primarily follow piano, and if you do you should make 00:31:171 - a clickable note. You tend to make all important sounding piano sounds a clickable note. done
6. 00:32:054 - wo this is burning my ears, please do follow it here. Too loud for anyone to feel indifferent after not tapping it.
7. 00:38:036 (3) - same here. It is also the ending of a section suggesting the highest point in the section, deserving no holding back with spacing or rhythm. The slider end should be a circle. done
8. 00:39:213 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Even though it is mapped in its same structure and looks good, I still feel like it is a flaw, and could be worked with in order to really express the song. Musically 00:39:213 (1,2,3,4) - is identical to 00:39:605 (5,6,7,8) - is identical to 00:39:998 (1,2,3,4) -, the same old repeating piano. In the map for some reason 00:39:998 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this whole stream is given emphasis, even though there is a major difference (musically) between first four and 00:40:390 (5,6,7,8,1) - which are noticeably more intense, with louder piano sounds on each beat. This is a problem because I don't feel the map complementing the song's piano variable intensity. The piano, oh my, sounds so lit and unique to the song. Agree, this song is amazing. Adjusted the spacing of 00:39:998 (1,2,3,4) - to resemble more the rest. I didn't put it at the same spacing tho (they are way close now) because that would simply make the streams very very very very annoying to read and hit
9. 00:39:900 (8,1) - If you intend on using emphasis where the new comboed note has the spacing of the combo it is in, so should the same be done on the whole section to avoid confusion: 00:45:391 (8,1) - 00:42:253 (8,1) -, 00:48:530 (8,1,8,1) - this especially feels a bit uncomfortable and not really understandable. In all those places I used 1.00x or 1.20x ds to emphasize the comboed notes. Only one changed is 00:45:391 (8,1) - due to the stronger cymbals there. oh and I changed 00:47:843 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - to bette reflect the spacing of 00:46:274 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
10. 00:41:567 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - There are many examples of the map not changing its spacing to correlate a change in the song. The first four notes in the song are not as important as the following four 00:41:959 (5,6,7,8) - which are a lot louder, but in the map not emphasized at all. Those wooshy wooshy sounds sure are weird. Changed spacing a bit, I don't want to go too overkill here Further more to better follow the piano you should keep combos from 1 to 4, since the piano seems to break and have a change on every white tick. 00:42:351 (1,3,7) - and exception to that would be this because there is some weird stuff going on and could be better emphasized with 1/4 slider usage to not make it too awkward. there are still sounds there being covered so I don't think a change is needed
11. 00:44:705 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Next, this should, imo, be given the biggest spacing (bigger than 00:41:567 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ) since it sounds like a peak, right on the end of the phrase, just happening before resetting the section again in the song. Stuff I mentioned in the first half of the section of course applies to the second one as well. The consistent spacing of that part is just fine and its intensity isn't really much stronger than 00:41:567 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - (I even hear it kinda as weaker)
12. 01:40:409 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I don't see a reason for this to have such lower spacing than 01:41:194 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - when there doesn't seem to be anything in the song that varies between the combos. changed
13. Also, I think that going full circles is fine, but in the future, I think you should try to follow the weird bits in the sections that the song offers: 01:41:194 (1,3,7,1) - Notice how they're all the same weird sound. They, for one, could be nced weirdly, and then played with 1/4 sliders in order to express that unique part of the section that the song has. I'd rather not give examples as there are countless ways to interpret that. will keep that in mind (:
14. 01:46:686 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Another spot of spacing choices that I find questionable. Just because the map is ending, I don't think you should force a buildup if the song doesn't back it up. I hear no significant difference in the song between the first and last stream.Made spacing closer to eachother but I still want a spacing change because of piano added + other soudns that appear there to add to the song in it's climax

gl.

Mir wrote:

Gravity of the Moon
- 00:16:460 (3,4) - This and 00:19:206 (2,3,4) - ignore the slap-bass so much despite it really standing out. I wish at least they'd land on slider ends or something if you really don't want to make them clickable (but clickable would be nice.) 00:21:952 (1,3) - etc etc I concede
- 00:51:374 (5) - Would be nice to have 1/4 sliders here instead since it's a climax but the 1/2 slider here actually lowers that tension. Something like https://i.imgur.com/gFQXfTV.jpg done
- 01:35:702 (1,2) - Blanket! me2thanks
- 01:37:271 (1,2) - Shouldn't this be a bit more uncomfortable like the previous sliders? 01:34:133 (1,2) - referring to this this is the first time someone has told me to make movement more uncomfortable in my map and I'm so happy that I could cry. Finally someone gets me (':
- 01:44:332 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Not sure why you put a 4 note split here. If it's for the flute: firstly it's quite hard to hear, secondly, it should also be done at 01:49:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8). Personally, I'm not a fan of it and think it would be nice to just continue the 9 note streams since the flute is so barely audible in the back. Instead of a spit stream I had the second section have a bit higher ds. This imo is a more subtle way to still follow the pitch change of the flute, since I do think it stands out quite a lot

Novice
- 01:04:319 (1,2) - Why all of a sudden does spacing here drop so massively. Players might get confused over this and click much earlier than they should. I recommend keeping the DS as you did the first whole minute. I thought I fixed all of these woops. Done

Basic
- 01:34:133 (4,5,1) - Triangle here can be improved. triangled better

Lasse wrote:

exhaust
hp6 would be nice
00:29:210 (5) - why not https://i.imgur.com/sabJNpJ.jpg ? think that works way better here i'd like to keep what i currently have, the reason for that being that i want to emphasize the 1/3 triple by making it clickable, and it would be too tricky to play with a 1/6 repeat slider before that, or turning it into 2 sliders as you suggested wouldn't emphasize it enough

Lasse wrote:

nice diff name
my main concern is how you handle a lot of the 1/6, things like 00:05:476 (2,1,2,3) - starting the 1/6 on that tick instead of 00:05:673 - is very ?? the thing about 1/6 is that you get 4 distinct sounds, but you made it simply a faster triple instead of 4 clicks, whereas something like https://i.imgur.com/1sKKaGh.jpg feels much more reflective of the song
(and imo it's also way nicer to play starting from a 1/2 tick)
this applies to a lot of other instances, like 00:55:885 - 01:08:438 - 01:17:461 - etc. (basically all spots where you have 1/6 triples)

At first I wa a bit hesistant to actually change this, but after testing myself and getting some feedback, this way the 1/6 becomes much clearer and plays really like 1/6 instead of just fast 1/4, so I'll change it

you could argue that in there they are similar to 1/4 blue tick doubles (01:23:934 (3,4,5) - etc) but they play out so differently here imo

00:16:755 (4,5) - putting this below (2) would actually look so much cuter https://i.imgur.com/ZLtV4Jq.jpg done for ultimate cuteness
00:29:210 (4,5,6,7) - https://i.imgur.com/iVTVWS7.jpg is actually way nicer to play rhythmtically done
00:51:374 (5) - would make so much sense to nc these NC'ed
01:19:815 (9,10,1) - since melody picks up again here it you could have this different from before or even https://i.imgur.com/Nyhph4c.jpg
01:32:368 (9,10) - ^
01:20:991 (4,5) - triple would be nice here done
01:26:581 - melody is picking up on blue tick so ^ that kind of weird boop sound there feels really out of place, mapping it wouldn't work well with the main melody
01:30:079 (1,2) - this 1/6 feels way less supported by the song (melody) than your others since only that alst 1/6 tick is supported I guess I can put a slider to it and hope people don't get too triggered by the 1/6 and not 1/4
01:34:721 - offbeat melody think https://i.imgur.com/9yOpYOH.jpg would be nice done

like the diff overall, but the mentioned 1/6 stuff seemed a bit tilting to me

novice
00:51:766 (1) - would space or remove nc this looks a bit gross, actually https://i.imgur.com/HPI7CKE.jpg would be even better I think did like you proposed
01:56:101 (1) - ^ spaced out


basic
01:15:303 (3,4,5,1) - could be misleading movement/visual spacing wise. 90° angles or https://i.imgur.com/gvVTO9K.jpg work better
01:20:011 (1,2,3) - similar
your other triangles are more clear due to movement into them, but these can really throw of beginners fixed both

can qualify if you're willing to change the 1/6 things or bring out some convincing reasoning to keep them as triples
though I think actually mapping 1/6 quads would be more intuitive to play and reflect the song better

Dailycare wrote:

01:17:461 (1,2,3,4) - Why did you use 1/6 here? I think a sound is at 01:17:608 - Don't know why this is as 4 1/6 notes, it's indeed wrong, fixed by making the same as 01:29:818 (2) -
01:29:818 (2) - Same The sound here does end on the 1/6 tick, not the 1/8 tick

transcendental wrote:

hey babe is this intentional 00:55:885 (1,2,3,4) - (view without stacking)

Naotoshi wrote:

redl , there is only bg 1 and bg2 for me, not 3