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Viperial wrote:
[Bariton's Insane]
00:03:385 (1,2,3,4,5) - why is this mapped so much differently then just before? fixed
Pulse wrote:
[Bariton's Insane]
- 01:13:069 (4) - Essa nota me parece melhor stackada no começo do próximo slider em vez de no final do anterior. concordo fixed
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makisokk wrote:
[advanced]Good luck with mappsetThanks
- 00:14:588 (6,7) - hmm maybe try do so? looks betterI prefer how it looks now.
Viperial wrote:
[Nostalgic Festival]
00:04:714 (6) - this lands on a stong sound, maybe emphasize it by increasing spacing or changing the angle?It's such a calm part in the intro I guess the pattern doesn't need bigger jumps or difficulty.
00:07:373 (5,6) - it doesnt make sense to me that these are sliders but 00:08:132 (1,2,3,4) - are notthey sound different..
00:09:461 (5) - maybe you could NC this to show that it's a part of a new phrase (that isnt as calm)Sure
00:10:791 (1) - this could be a different shape to show that its not the same length as 00:10:031 (2,3) - isThe slider there is poiting down for a reason, it's part of how I structured the main downbeats on the map. Doesn't require differet slider shape
00:11:170 (2,3) - you could increase the spacing here since they are both drumslol but they're not emphasized
00:13:449 (4) - the slider tail ends on a drum beat which i think should be a circle insteadmelody rhythm :/
00:16:487 (4) - ^
00:13:829 (5,6) - this could be a slider since 6 is a barely noticable soundThis contradicts your previous suggestion I'm not even sure what's your point now.
00:15:537 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - could you find a better way to make this look different without repeating the same thing but flipping it horizontally?what's the problem of flipping?
00:18:575 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - can the spacings here not vary so much? it feels weird seeing them vary so much when nothing in the song changed.every single spacing variation as well as flow is supported by song...
00:24:272 (7) - NC, it feels to longok
00:25:031 (2,3) - maybe these could have a different spacing so players wont be confused because of it?The entire point here is reading in case you didn't notice 00:24:651 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - .
00:27:310 (3,4) - the spacing here could be smaller to indicate that the sounds are less strong here
00:30:158 (2,1) - pls fix overlap
00:33:196 (1,1) - ^
00:42:310 (2,1) - ^don't you think it's a bit weird that this specific two circles are overlapping? That's on purpose.
00:41:360 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,1) - again with the copy and pasting :VAgain, what's the problem?
00:58:449 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ??? arent these just 2 triplesThere's only one triple section in this part of the song here 00:57:120 (1,2,3) - on the hi-hats, so I don't really agree in adding a triple there.
01:11:550 (1,1) - i dont think the spacing here has to be so big, but it is D:Nerfed
01:18:765 (5) - NC?Doesn't make any sense NCing there.
to be honest this entire kiai feels too random, i dont know what to say.:/ but it's not
Pulse wrote:
[Collab Normal][Nostalgic Festival]
- Não sei se vai ser um problema por ser um desvio muito pequeno, mas chequem os DS apontados no AiMod.https://puu.sh/xzBGe.png :thinking:
- 01:28:449 (8) - NC?Claro
Boa sorte!Muito obrigado <3
- 00:06:423 (1) - Double timing pointArrumado
- 00:21:993 (3) - Esse terceiro combo pode ser confuso durante o gameplay, já que antes você tinha combos de duas notas (sério isso realmente me confundiu umas três vezes). Considere deixar assim.O combo em si eu não vou mudar porque a música realmente faz essa virada de 1-3 pra depois voltar com 1-2 na melodia, foi o que eu segui. Mas eu acho que mudar a posição do 00:21:993 (3) - é tranquilo, então vamos tentar sua sugestão.
- 00:23:322 (2) - Acho que NC aqui é válido independente de seguir a sugestão acima.O 2 continua fazendo parte da seção anterior não vejo um motivo além do gap de ritmo pra mudar isso, vou manter por enquanto
- 00:58:069 (1) - Esse slider me parece melhor posicionado se der um Ctrl+G e stackar no 00:56:930 (3).Essa posição faz parte de um conceito geral do mapa. Observa como esse slider 00:58:069 (1) - coincide com 00:51:993 (1) - que é o primeiro objeto da seção que por sua vez estava posicionado acima de 00:45:917 (1) - que era o som mais forte da section anterior e logo na sequência 01:02:436 (1) - vai subir mais ainda, etc.
- 01:11:930 (1) - Na minha opinião isso aqui deveria ter menos SV pra você poder ter um slider menor e não forçar demais o movimento do player. A janela de tempo entre o slider anterior e esse é bem pequena, e nisso dá pra sair muitos 100s ai sem necessidade - tanto por largar o slider anterior mais cedo pra poder pegar o próximo slider quanto por break por seguir o slider anterior até o final e errar a mira tentando alcançar o slider em questão. Ao contrário do 01:23:702 (1,1), onde o movimento é mais favorável. Mesmo assim você poderia reduzir aqui também pra ser consistente (caso reduza o primeiro).Eu nerfei essa parte dos sliders 3/4, mas só no primeiro caso.
I'm always open for discussion, feel free to post your concerns :>Time Capsule wrote:
1,2 pattern works, but the current not fit
(if you feel more open about this ill back and give some words)
peaceGiant wrote:
Mirash's Extra
• 00:06:993 (3) - This slider isnt ignoring anything. (00:07:753 - This is worth a click imo) nah, its just a beginning of the map
• 00:21:708 - I don't hear a sound here. overmapping things
• 01:01:677 (2,3,1,2,1) - I don't feel like this fits with the concept of the map, You are overall ignoring a lot of sounds and its just a pattern that just appears out of no where. this pattern follows vocal
makisokk wrote:
[Mirash's Extra]
- 00:09:461 (2,3) - Не хочешь замутить бланкет с началом слайдера? не хочу
00:10:411 (4) - Ну и так же можно с концом
00:17:721 (1,2) - По моему это очень трудно прочитать, может убрать стак? подвинул немного
00:21:613 - Очень странно что ты не решил замапать этот сильный звук, может тогда сделать там мини стрим? я тут мелодию фоловнул
00:30:727 (1) - не знаю как другим, но мне очень трудно прочитать эту ноту, может быть ее поставить в вверх?
00:42:879 (1) - ^ хотя ее уже было легче прочитать обе подвинул
01:16:297 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Жесткая херовинаXD, по моему 01:16:677 (1,2,3,4,1) - тут можно было сделать флоу получше пойдет так
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tks to modPeterEU wrote:
Hi i'm from my queueEasy00:08:512 (4) - rotate by -6* and by selection centre because looks off okie
00:13:259 (2) - make this one sharper eh... explain for me why, because i made a control c control v patten , and its good for me
00:42:879 (1) - looks weird i recommend you to do that : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9093409 if are weird, explain why...i do a good blanket and its simple, and even your choice is a minor change, i don't see any relevance
00:45:537 (3) - recommended place this on previous red tick pretty strong sound here after you've done that 00:45:917 (1,2) - change to that http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9093419 if i put that circle in the red tick, i will break ALL the flow i made, and gonna be a 1/2 patten, in easy, you can not put 1/2
00:48:196 (4) - looks off to previous and next slider hmmmm i have see and see and seeeeee and.... i don't see anything off
00:54:651 (4) - off to previous okie done
[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:3.2
OverallDifficulty:2
ApproachRate:3
SliderMultiplier:0.8
SliderTickRate:1
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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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PeterEU wrote:
Bariton's Insane00:03:955 (3) - too many reverse arrows no
GL
peaceGiant wrote:
• 00:51:993 - Remove the timing point because it conflicts with every other diff and makes me and AImod Angery> ok removedShizuku's Extra
• 00:04:715 (3) - This isn't emphasized with larger spacing. ok made the spacing even larger
• 01:22:372 (3) - ?????Fflp://v impostor slider hmm?[/notice]
Viperial wrote:
[Shizuku's Insane]
00:05:854 (1,2) - why is there a huge jump here? and to what sound is it even jumping onto? it's like a mini-transition thingy. i can't explan it in a full detail
00:18:575 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,1,1,2) - would be nice if you didn't ignore the drum beat here but i guess its fine xD ok
00:31:677 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - why do these have different spacing? they are practically the same :v just me trying to add a bad variation
00:43:829 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^ ^
01:32:436 (1,2,3,1,2,1,1,2,3) - ^ ^
00:46:866 (1,2,3) - I feel like the spacing here is too large, could you make it similar to 00:48:385 (1,2,3) - ? stacked to 00:45:917 (1) - 's head instead
01:25:410 (1) - this passes through a noticeable sound, can you make it end on it instead? (1/2) i can't really hear that particular sound. so denied for now
01:36:233 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - I think these should have lower spacing because it is more calm did something different instead
Pulse wrote:
[Shizuku's Extra]
Check General section ok
00:06:423 (1) - Double timing point removed
00:33:765 (1) - That's a lot of stacking. Not much confusing, but annoying. Consider moving this slider down and adjust following notes. i think it is fine tho
Idealism wrote:
[Shizuku]
01:12:309 (3) - this is slightly offscreen, just saying. it's barely offscreen but still. made it less off-screen
Sotarks wrote:
[shizuku]
00:51:802 (3,1) - unrankable don't overlap perfectly the slider reverse pls L I T E R A L L Y U N P L A Y A B L E
actually that diff is really good hoyl thanks!
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thx modSotarks wrote:
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[nostalgic festival]
00:24:272 (1,2,3,4,1) - can you maybe make a more curved stream, actually that's pretty sharp angle not very confortableIt's pretty confortable actually.
00:39:461 (1) - this can be nice to be extanded to the blue tic
00:51:613 (1) - ^I'll consider this, because I really used extended only in special parts of the song/map and I don't reall want to over use it.
00:57:120 (1,2,3) - can you maybe replace this by a reverse 1/4 ? The rhythm idea in this piano section is using sliders ONLY on the main transition sounds and the diff overall is using circles for everything, I don't think it would benefit changing here to a reverse because that also implies in changing the flow which doesn't fit there
01:12:310 (1,2) - really ugly pattern imo, and also very confusing pattern 01:12:879 (2,3) - on the spacing similar but one is 1/2..Changed
01:28:449 (1,1,1) - can u maybe move them a little bit on the right that jump is huge hoyl shitApplied
01:29:398 (1,2) - weird spacing imoAnti-jump
why u don't map the end ?Now mapped
PeterEU wrote:
Hi i'm from my queueNormal00:18:575 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - hmm would make something more interesting hereIt's pretty cool and stands out a lot, btw it's normal diff I can't go crazy here
00:39:841 (1) - rotate by -21* and selection centre will look much better : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9093460 and https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9093463
way better Fixed
00:51:993 (1) - move like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9093468It's not blanket intended here
01:12:120 (5) - place higher That doesn't make much different :/
01:25:411 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - same as before^advanced00:04:715 (3,4,5,6) - these jumps looks awful change to that https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9093480 Sure
00:14:588 (6) - something like this would have been better http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9093490 Second person to mention that, changed
00:25:411 (3,4) - this looks more interesting : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9093499that breaks intended flow
GLThanks
Bariton wrote:
Collab Normal 00:09:841 (2) - tenta diminuir o slider pra o tick vermelho!OK
00:42:499 - adiciona um círculo aqui?Dá pra simplificar
01:16:677 - ^Dá pra simplificarAdvanced 00:10:791 (3) - remove esse slider e adiciona um círculoNão vejo um motivo pra fazer isso
00:33:385 - adiciona um círculo? :<Não vejo um motivo pra fazer isso
00:37:373 (2,3) - acho que faria mais sentido com a música inverter a ordem desse slider com o círculo 00:36:613 (9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - sliders diferentes para seguir ritmos diferentes
00:49:525 (2,3) - ^
01:18:765 (8) - transforma esse slider num 1/2 reverse (é assim que se chama? asdhjas) Eu to usando reverse só pras partes com stream ou de transição mais importantes
não vou moddar a diff do guh pq ele é fresco >;(
also desculpa pelo meu mod horrível!
Thanks. Applied Pulse's mod.PeterEU wrote:
Hi i'm from my queue
00:52:942 (2,3,4) - you should make jumps here Why?
rest of the diffs are above 4
GL
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victorfernando wrote:
olar tudo bom ? Bariton's Insane
- 00:01:866 pra que tanto reverse ? :p >:(
- 00:04:904 ^ tenta trocar esses reverse por circulos nao
- 00:45:537 okueceu um som aqui :p ok
- 00:51:803 bota ele um pouco mais longe , quando fui jogar pensei que era 1/4 mas na stackei era 1/2 quando fui olhar no editor :p stackei
- 01:08:797 o som do slider termina aqui e começa outro n eu fiz algo diferente do que vc falou mas mudeia botar som ou não <3 eu fiz algo diferente do que vc falou mas mudei
- a diff mais bonitinha :3 <3 obg fofooooooooooooooooooooooteamo
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Kisses wrote:
[]w ~You can guess which diff this is for
- 00:33:196 (1) - I know you went to map the backing track for this, the same layer that 00:32:816 (1) is mapping. But to me it would make be much more intuitive (and make more sense in a way) to use https://i.imgur.com/7WaeKhB.png or https://i.imgur.com/IH4fcTu.png . This is because it would follow the same layer (drums) as 00:29:208 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - and avoid abrupt changes in which instrument you follow.
- 00:45:348 (1) - ^This rhythm suggestion is the intuitive choice indeed, but that's not the layer I'm following. I kept rhythm somewhat obvious, but I made the choice to follow melody in specific parts like 00:32:816 (1,1,1) - /01:00:727 (1,2,1) - /01:08:512 (1,2,3) - etc to make them stand out more and be a new approach to the songs rhythm representation. It's one drum skip´, I think it's mostly fine.
- 00:37:753 (4) - Would you consider spacing this a bit to the left a bit so it doesn't look like it slightly touches 2? This is one of the few objects that doesnt have other objects stacked underneath it and separating it from 2 a bit would make it look more structured imhoSure, moved it in the x axis by 2.
- 01:08:133 (6,7) - Decreasing the spacing between 6 and 7 would create more emphasis on the vocal pattern at 01:08:512 (1) . As of now the huge spacing between 6 and 7 takes away a bit of emphasis from it All right, I made the spacing lower
- 01:11:550 (1,1,1) - I don't really agree on the slow SV on this slider tbqh. I can't see how it's different from 01:08:512 (1,2,3) - and if it is then it must be very minuscule. In the end it just comes off as rather forced. I am a person that sometimes creates different patterns to try to incorporate a certain feel, but because you've already established a no SV change pattern earlier it ends up being really abrupt and feels like youre trying to put too many ideas into your map. Same with 01:23:702 (1,1) I have to disagree, the concept of using different SV sliders was already used before in the diff, the point of the kiai is just increasing its intensity for the vocal emphasis, especially for the "Hanabi" phrase, which seems imo the most important part to use it.
- 01:17:816 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern uses considerably lower spacing than the rest of the kiai. I just wanted to point this out because this quite an emphatic space of the chorus the low spacing doesnt seem to do it justice imhoSure, I changed the placement of 01:18:196 (3) - to increase spacing here
- 01:20:664 (8) - I can't tell if this is a mistake or not so I'm just going to point it out. You didn't opt for three 3/4 sliders for the vocals like you did at 01:08:512 (1,2,3) - and this is the only place in the chorus where you skipped out on mapping with this rhythmI did that mostly because the second kiai part is not the same in intensity compared to the previous one; that's why rhythms are more intense. That's why I used only one 3/4 here 01:20:664 (1) - since I only skip there a hi-hat, you can also notice how it got more intense comparing 01:23:702 (1,1,1,2,3) - with 01:11:550 (1,1,1) - , and overall the angles got more agressivelly mapped too in this section. I could apply tho the 3/4 here 01:21:423 (4,5,6) - since this too is just hi-hat, so let me know if you think it could work with two, but I definetly can't make all of the 3 like in the previous chorus section
victorfernando wrote:
olar tudo bom ? Tudo ^^ Collab Normal
- 00:13:829 esse overlap me da um toc fudido se você arrumasse ou não sei lá depende de tu, eu ficaria agradecido <3 : Essa foi a opção esteticamente mais bonita pra mim lol, se vc tiver alguma sugestão diversa, fique a vontade
- 00:18:006 o espaço entre o 4 e o 1 é muito pequeno , consideraria aumentar o espaçoMas não tá dando overlap nesse caso
- 00:18:575 essa parte ai tá mto né?
- 00:19:145 você poderia tirar esse circulo , depois ve o ritmo , praticamente você botou som aonde não tinhaToda essa parte o ritmo é 1/2, então existe sim som aí.
- 00:19:525 aqui um quick slider seria melhor por que o som começa no tick branco e termina logo em seguida no tick vermelho porém você teria que mudar sua pattern , isso depende de vocêA diff tinha que simplificar, se vc observar o Advanced eu usei esse ritmo que vc achou melhor ^^
- 00:19:715 aqui tem som de um circulo só
- 00:19:904 e aqui começaria um slider que terminaria em 00:20:474
- tirando isso o ritmo tá bem <3 boa sorteBasicamente vc não concordou com o pattern. Bom, como eu expliquei, nessa parte eu tinha que simplificar um ritmo que é inteiramente 1/2. Pra fazer isso sem usar sliders 1/2, eu optei por mapear todos os sons importantes com slider; 00:18:575 (1,3,5,7) - , ou seja todos os sons de snare ficaram representadas por um objeto, enquanto que o sons do tick vermelho foram simplificados pela metade 00:18:765 - /00:19:525 - /00:20:284 - /00:21:044 - e a outra metade é circle já que se trata de som de natureza distinta. Optei por esse pattern porque se trata de uma parte dificil da música, tanto que é um dos poucos momentos que vc vai ter uma sequência mais intensa assim.
Well this mapset isn't meme :<Smokeman wrote:
haha... memes ; )
fanzhen0019 wrote:
I'll pick some diff only... No worriesNostalgic Festival
HitsoundsArrangement & Design
- No prob here.
I noticed you are trying to use different type of combocolors for marking sections. Yep I did thatMaybe you can do this here (01:26:170 -), for marking some jumpsit is marked, the jumps with kicksliders are using the green and blue/purple combo color, they're different from the other red-pink, similar to what I did here 00:18:575 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1) -
01:36:993 (4,5,6,1) - Music here is a fade-out outro, I think you can decrease their distance.Applied suggestion, decreased the spacing there.
You used lots of symmetry patterns, I can't pick any other important issues here..hmm so using symmetriy is an issue? I'm not sure about that, if there's any specific pattern you don't approve let me know.
I testplayed all >Insane diff. Other diffs are fine to me.
Good luck!thanks a lot
Hollow Wings wrote:
m4m
- combo 7 and combo 8's red colors in most diffs are very similar, not recommend you to do that thou...My diff in particular only goes up to color 6, so this probably refers to some GD
Nostalgic Festival
- 00:27:120 (2,3,4) - shouldn't these jumps' distances are in 00:23:322 (2,3,4,5,6) - 's kind? similar mod to 01:05:854 (1,2,3) - as well.The song is not as intense there, but I'll space them more to keep it consistent with 00:23:322 (2,3,4,5,6) -
- 00:42:879 (1) - nc from here is a bit confused to me. i recommend just set nc at those notes have 1/1 gap before them.The idea of the NC here is kinda obvious if you highlight all of them 00:29:208 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - , changes here.
- 01:18:006 (2) - move to 180,184?I'm not sure WHY but I'll do that
- 01:23:322 (6,7) - i recommend you swap these two.Sure
- 01:24:082 (1,1) - this jump is kinda too large.Considering the overall spacing I don't believe this is off, however I did nerf the slider speed and decreased the pattern size.
- 01:29:398 (1,2) - this should be a big jump imo... not really necessary to give ds pattern here. if you insist note 2 should be at that corner, stack it at note 1 can be the best solve.I stacked... But I thought that the intention there was clear enough... Well if even you can't get it I'll just change that
- hmmmmm, when 1/2 and 1/4 gaps appeared together, new combos are usually used, that's ok. but the places you set them are caring downbeats too much, focus on the detail patterns should be better than that way. and also, notes' jumps are in regular symmetry like way placement set, but random like distance set, i think you shall consider both of them at same time... i can understand some of patterns or organizations made on purpose, maybe i'm just not fav on these.I'm pretty sure I made spacing consistent and not random, but if you find something off with how it was done, just point it so I can see it. This section 00:18:575 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1) - is indeed symetrically done. But the spacing/flow goes along with song intensity, as you can see the stronger transitions all had bigger spacing 00:20:854 (1,2,1,2,1) - compared to 00:18:575 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - , flow from this point on 00:21:613 (1) - was linear so all the main curves; 00:22:183 (1) - /00:22:563 (1) - /00:22:942 (1) - with harder flow. Another thing worth mentioning is that this map uses a gimmick with the playfield that this pattern shows if you compare 00:18:575 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - with 00:18:765 (2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,3,2,2) - . So yeah it's not random, but I can see why you didn't like it.
good luck.
blueloniess wrote:
[Nostalgic Festival]
00:20:284 (2) - I think this note should be here 00:19:525 (2) , this one 00:20:474 (1) should be here - 00:19:335 (1) then this one 00:20:664 (2) - be here 00:19:904 (2) - . then it becomes a Symmetrical PolygonIf the point is being a symmetrical pattern I think it already suits your suggestion ^^
01:12:310 (1) - why slow down so much? shouldn't this part similar this part?01:09:272 (3) - They share some similarities indeed; 01:08:512 (1,2,3) - here you can see that 01:08:512 (1,2) - are more straight and imply more moviment, while 01:09:272 (3) - you have to stop the cursor a bit more for the vocals that are prolonged and emphasized here 01:09:272 - . I applied the same idea here 01:11:550 (1,1,1) - but since this vocal line is more special in the song I added SV to the moviment idea.
pretty awesomeThanks a lot, glad you liked the map.
victorfernando wrote:
olar tudo bom ?
Antes de tudo, respondi o seu mod dentro da boxAtaraxia's Easy
- o ritmo tá bonitinho mas o hitsound tá meio confuso pra mim , não se tá baixo ou se não tem sabe ? o hitsound esta incompleto, mas logo completo,
obrigado por checkar de qualquer jeito- 00:37:753 eu acho que aqui ficaria melhor com um blanket , mas só opnião minha mesmo , você pode conferir o jeito que fica nessa imagem :
imagemEu prefiri escolher o seguimento linear exato ao invez de fazer um blanket, pois como muda o ritmo, acredito eu que nao posso fazer uma patten de blanket que faz o player olhar em volta de um slidertail, mas sim, algo uniforme
mente variado haha fisica xD- 00:42:879 aqui você poderia tentar assim tbm Aplicado :
- 00:51:993 o ritmo aqui tá um pouco mais acelerado , ao invés desse circulo poderia ser dois slider's mas claro , se tu for botar slider vai ter que arrumar a distancia da patern , ou botar um slider reverse mesmo <3 ritmo acelerado, talvez a batida, mas sinta essa parte com mais precisao, voce não ve algo calmo comparado ao momento anterior ? eu dei foco precisamente no vocal, pois é onde ela da a enfase, e onde a musica "canta" para ser mappeado, e como é um easy, quanto mais simples melhor, entao... 2 long sliders xD imagem :
- Só isso mesmo , bela gd <3
obrigado victor <3Bariton wrote:
Ataraxia's Easy 00:12:499 (1,2) - usa um slider um pouco mais curvado pra fazer o blanket certinho não é tao necessario toda essa enfase em um blanket, a ideia permanesse a mesma, ta centralizado, entao nao aplicarei
00:41:360 (1,1) - blanket nao entendi lols mas eu refiz o slider pra fazer um "blanket"
00:45:537 (3) - eu acho que faz mais sentido botar esse círculo no 00:45:348 - se eu for colocar um circle ai, eu vou acabar tendo que dar enfase no mesmo som em toda patten anterior, e nem é tão forte esse momento , e outro motivo para eu não colocar é que eu vou confundir o ritmo inteiro, e como é um easy bla bla bla quanto mais simples melhor
00:53:512 (3,4) - isso ta muito feio vai se fude :<rip orelhaeu nao se eu sou ignorante ou se eu realmente n presto atencao nesses detalhes, mas eu curvei mais, entao aplicado
01:22:373 (1) - meio undermapped comparado ao resto do kiai seila para min tava bom mas eu percebi que eu fiz diferente do 01:10:221 (1) - entao mudei e deixei no mesmo tempo que o 01:10:221 (1) -
não vou moddar a diff do guh pq ele é fresco >;( ele é um arrombado msm
also desculpa pelo meu mod horrível! que isso pow ta top
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fanzhen0019 wrote:
Mun's ExpertI'll move it a bit, but it's not nearly important enough to give that much more spacing
HitsoundsThanks! The diff had no hitsounds at the time you modded this, though
- Well done.
Arrangement & Design
01:34:335 (3) - It looks a bit weird. I'd put this note at somewhere else like here:
I testplayed all >Insane diff. Other diffs are fine to me.
Good luck!
Hollow Wings wrote:
m4mMun's Expert
- 00:25:791 (6,1) - this jump is too large and not necessary, try move note 6 to 296,136. I think this is fine, the tempo is fairly slow and the note this is jumping to is extremely strong.
- 00:30:158 (1,2) - this jump is too large compared to 00:42:309 (1,2) - . They're basically the same. Here they are next to each other and rotated for comparison:
- 00:48:955 (6) - missed nc. Fixed!
- 01:06:613 (8) - add nc here to notice the sudden ds shifting. maybe add another nc at 01:06:234 (7) - and be better. I'll NC the first of the 2, NCing the second is pointless
- 01:16:677 (2,5) - as for your slider overlapping style, you can hide these two under 01:16:866 (3) - 's previous part. Sort of changed.
not much to say about lower ones...
hmmmmmmmmmm...
good luck.
blueloniess wrote:
[Mun's expert]
00:06:992 (1,2) - stack nope
00:48:006 (3,4) - too close , separate it rotated 3 degrees, they no longer overlap
01:04:145 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - I think you can make this jumps much bigger no need, buildup shouldn't outdo the rest of the map that much.
masterpieces.
I can't play it well though.
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Milar001 wrote:
Hi, from my queue
[Collab Normal]
00:09:461 (1) - This sound is very similar to 00:09:841 (2) - ,but here you highlighted only end of it, so instead of it 1/2 slider from 00:09:272 - to here would be better imoThis rhythm works great to transition from the white to red polarity, also the objects you mentioned are different when you consider that 00:09:461 (1) - is main melody and 00:09:841 (2) - is melody+percussion.
00:37:183 - There's a drum beat here, so think of fillingImproved rhythm
00:38:512 - ^This is undermapped with melody, I think it's fine
00:49:335 - Like upon, drum but also vocals are stronger hereThis is also fine
00:50:284 (3) - ^
00:51:044 (4) - ^There's nothing wrong with going along with vocals and ignoring the beat clicks in this level of difficulty lol
00:51:044 (4,1) - Blanket?The pattern is not blanket intended
00:56:550 (1) - If you change first red tick to white to be more circular should look better imoThe point of the red anchors is to cover the vocal changes there, is not aesthetic.
01:04:335 - Here's same as 01:05:094 (2) - so fill This section is vocal 01:04:525 (1,2,3) - followed by instrumental 01:05:854 (4,5) - it's an undermapped rhythm that works in a hard transitioning way to express song intensity, doesn't make sense mixing the drums there with vocals
01:16:677 - Strong sound, fillAll right, added a circle with snare on it.
01:24:461 (6,3) - Think of making it go same directionIt's fine.
[Advanced]
00:19:715 (4,5) - Would look better if blanket imoIt plays better without it tho.
00:23:702 - Strong sound, filllol I can't make all of this 1/2 beats, this stills an easier diff, this level of rhythm must be used on higher difficulties
00:33:385 - ^This is a melody rhythm, the drum there is ignored on purpose
00:45:537 - ^^
00:47:626 (6) - I can't find anything what's a representation of this circle in song, better move to 00:47:816 - Vocals o.O
00:48:765 (9) - Imo more important than these vocals are drums on 00:48:765 (9) - In the case of denser rhythms that's a rhythm option, but here I don't agree with you lol
I've also seen highest diff but it's I'm probably not experienced enough to know what's a real mistake here
Hope will be helpful
Thanks a lot -w-Pachiru wrote:
good luck :3
Net0 wrote:
Milar001Milar001 wrote:
Hi, from my queue
[Collab Normal]
00:09:461 (1) - This sound is very similar to 00:09:841 (2) - ,but here you highlighted only end of it, so instead of it 1/2 slider from 00:09:272 - to here would be better imoThis rhythm works great to transition from the white to red polarity, also the objects you mentioned are different when you consider that 00:09:461 (1) - is main melody and 00:09:841 (2) - is melody+percussion.
00:37:183 - There's a drum beat here, so think of fillingImproved rhythm
00:38:512 - ^This is undermapped with melody, I think it's fine
00:49:335 - Like upon, drum but also vocals are stronger hereThis is also fine
00:50:284 (3) - ^
00:51:044 (4) - ^There's nothing wrong with going along with vocals and ignoring the beat clicks in this level of difficulty lol
00:51:044 (4,1) - Blanket?The pattern is not blanket intended
00:56:550 (1) - If you change first red tick to white to be more circular should look better imoThe point of the red anchors is to cover the vocal changes there, is not aesthetic.
01:04:335 - Here's same as 01:05:094 (2) - so fill This section is vocal 01:04:525 (1,2,3) - followed by instrumental 01:05:854 (4,5) - it's an undermapped rhythm that works in a hard transitioning way to express song intensity, doesn't make sense mixing the drums there with vocals
01:16:677 - Strong sound, fillAll right, added a circle with snare on it.
01:24:461 (6,3) - Think of making it go same directionIt's fine.
[Advanced]
00:19:715 (4,5) - Would look better if blanket imoIt plays better without it tho.
00:23:702 - Strong sound, filllol I can't make all of this 1/2 beats, this stills an easier diff, this level of rhythm must be used on higher difficulties
00:33:385 - ^This is a melody rhythm, the drum there is ignored on purpose
00:45:537 - ^^
00:47:626 (6) - I can't find anything what's a representation of this circle in song, better move to 00:47:816 - Vocals o.O
00:48:765 (9) - Imo more important than these vocals are drums on 00:48:765 (9) - In the case of denser rhythms that's a rhythm option, but here I don't agree with you lol
I've also seen highest diff but it's I'm probably not experienced enough to know what's a real mistake here
Hope will be helpfulThanks a lot -w-Pachiru wrote:
good luck :3
All diffs updated, except -Shizuku x.x.I believe that everyone exposed their main points with diffs and the map received a decent amount of mods; 14 mods ,that covered all the diffs with at least two/three mods each diff. If anyone wants to point out anything that doesn't agree with diffs, feel free to do so ^^ , but I'll stop getting mods and look for BN now.
Thanks to all modders o/
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Artist:chano & 40mP
ArtistUnicode:シャノ & 40mP
Creator:Net0
Version:Shizuku's Extra
Source:
Tags:sugar panoram a note summer festival fireworks chano Trynna Mun Bariton MkGuh Shizuku- Mirash Delis Ataraxia
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The best thing tbh would be giving credits for all BG used, by I'll make sure to at least mention Delis diff BG along with mp3/star pattern which I did linked for Riven's mapset. Thanks for that info.Smokeman wrote:
i am pretty sure riven edited the BG which Delis' dif uses, cause the original was too sad for this song link : (
So you could mention that in the description aswell
And this is the best BG for this song, hope you stick with it Delis 👌 👀
Nice transparent :/- Frontier - wrote:
maybe im late to mod your map. gl net0~
monstrata's is better
- Frontier - wrote:
k then[General]
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ListingNostalgic Festival: 0
Mirash's Extra: 0
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Delis' Insane: 1
Trynna's Insane: 1
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Bariton's Insane: 1
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^ All fuxed- Beatmap finishes on different times
ListingInconsistent ending times for Collab Normal and Advanced are acceptable for me, but could you consider making Ataraxia's Easy's ending time as same as normal & advanced? Easy can end earlier on, it's not a big dealAtaraxia's Easy: 01:31:487 -
Collab Normal: 01:34:525 -
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Delis' Insane: 01:37:563 -
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Bariton's Insane: 01:37:563 -
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Mun's Expert: 01:37:563 -- The background's image dimensions of Mun's Expert is 2084x1199 which exceeds the limited dimensions (1920x1200). It's considered to be unrankable. Fit it thank younew rankable size
[Collab Normal]quality mod here. lazy now
- with who? Just read description of the map, it was there the whole time o.O
- the bg is as the same as top diff but combo colors aren't the same lol Fixed
- 00:18:575 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Avoid chains of more than three objects connected by 1/2 gaps. It might be too consecutive and can make newbie players miss easily. Consider lenient this part to be easier.Emphasis, also even if the gaps are 1/2 between objects, the bigger sliders 00:18:575 (1,3,5,7) - allows a rest time, and this is not the easiest diff on the set, pretty sure it's okay.
- 00:41:360 to 00:45:917 - good consistency with 00:29:208 to 00:33:765Ataraxia's part
- 01:25:411 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Avoid chains of more than three objects connected by 1/2 gaps. It might be too consecutive and can make newbie players miss easily. Consider lenient this part to be easier.Same thing mentioned above, it's intense, but it's not something out of the normal diff realm.
gl~ monstrata's is better cuz it gives pp!
Can you like not meme about Monstrata here? I get it, he's funny, gj on pp and memeing. This mapset tho is not related to that so pls avoid bringing unrelated stuff to the map in the thread. Thanks mod.
To some ppl yes, you're right. A big part of the community is currently focused on maps like that, but it's also known that another part of it wants different stuff,- Squishi wrote:
getting pp is fun
Eu queria que BNs aparecessem pra comemorar aniversário de pessoas/personagens de anime pra ver se isso poderia ser rankeado. :^) , assim que eu conseguir mod de BN quem sabe Bariton, até lá, me deseje sorte.Bariton wrote:
do it
I'm really apologize for it. I don't think it will make a discrepancy here. If what I wrote here makes you angry, then sorry. ;w;Net0 wrote:
Can you like not meme about Monstrata here? I get it, he's funny, gj on pp and memeing. This mapset tho is not related to that so pls avoid bringing unrelated stuff to the map in the thread. Thanks mod.
I need sometime before replying this. It's so ilogic that I need to have a good rest before having enough patience for this...Monstrata wrote:
Nostalgic Festival
00:00:348 (1) - Man, beginning the map at the corner of the screen is really bad for player positioning xP Especially mouse users.
Uhh I really can't agree with how you map this lmao... If you actually plan to make convincing changes to what i mentioned earlier, then you can poke me to mod the rest of the diff.
You guys are trying too hard to be creative, but there is no baseline "standard mapping" to deviate from though. The issue with making everything creative is, if there is nothing to deviate from, it doesn't come across as unique or special, just different.
thanks!!Monstrata wrote:
Bariton's Insane
00:06:993 (3,1,2) - Why isn't this mapped with repeats too? the rhythm changes
00:13:639 (4,5) - Why is this a stack? Shouldn't you do a jump for the violin since you emphasize it with a jump other places ?00:13:069 (3) - 00:16:107 (2) -00:16:866 (1) - . fixed
00:18:006 (5) - The violin is suddenly mapped to a slider-end xP when you were mappign it to jumps for the 3 places i mentioned earlier fixed
00:26:740 (3) - I would recommend removing the repeat and mapping something on 00:27:310 - . but there's no strong sound in 00:27:310
00:35:854 (2,3) - Why is this stacked tho, theres a snare xP. 00:31:487 (3,4) - This is different from here? fixed
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I'll probably apply 3 or 4 points mentioned about placement and emphasis, but rhythm suggestions I'm not really willing to change since I'm pretty confident with the circle rhythm adopted in the map and the sudden gaps to twist it.Net0 wrote:
I need sometime before replying this. It's so ilogic that I need to have a good rest before having enough patience for this...
p.s: So you're gonna veto the map now for no reason?Monstrata wrote:
Also I bookmarked this thread in case it ever gets bubbled ^^. Better let Net0 reply instead of trying to criticize my mod. I'm too good of a modder to care if the entire BR community doesn't agree, it just means your entire community is wrong.
#gangsta
#despacito
Monstrata wrote:
You can't veto a map without hearing the other person's side first. What if they fix everything you considered an issue? Don't make this a repeat of Alien... A veto happens when you and the mapper are unable to agree on something.
I probably won't veto. I've only had to veto what, one map ever? But I will like to read the opinions of BN's who support this map and at least discuss it a bit further before potential nominations, if I have the time. (Operate under the assumption I won't come back). If you find someone who genuinely supports this set, I won't try and stop you. There are some good diffs, Shizuku's especially.Net0 wrote:
I'll probably apply 3 or 4 points mentioned about placement and emphasis, but rhythm suggestions I'm not really willing to change since I'm pretty confident with the circle rhythm adopted in the map and the sudden gaps to twist it.Net0 wrote:
I need sometime before replying this. It's so ilogic that I need to have a good rest before having enough patience for this...
I appreciate that you guys are trying to defend it, but sadly that way of doing is fun but not very polite, after all if a person is being rude and making jokes towards you, the reply shouldn't be of the same nature (even if he deserves that).
Thanksp.s: So you're gonna veto the map now for no reason?Monstrata wrote:
Also I bookmarked this thread in case it ever gets bubbled ^^. Better let Net0 reply instead of trying to criticize my mod. I'm too good of a modder to care if the entire BR community doesn't agree, it just means your entire community is wrong.
#gangsta
#despacitoMonstrata wrote:
You can't veto a map without hearing the other person's side first. What if they fix everything you considered an issue? Don't make this a repeat of Alien... A veto happens when you and the mapper are unable to agree on something.
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So yeah I don't think we're tryharding or forcing stuff in a degree that ISN'T already stablished as rankable. You see, the problem with ranking Delta Decision, Taki and Mitsuha extras, Alien and a lot of your maps is that now ,for isonomic reasons, other people can overdo stuff in an extreme way too if they have their reasoning. (if ranking process is not treated as a privilege ofc).Monstrata wrote:
Nostalgic Festival
00:00:348 (1) - Man, beginning the map at the corner of the screen is really bad for player positioning xP Especially mouse users.
There are 3 cases which I think you can analyse the placement of the first object of the map;
1- It's irrelevant when the mapper is doing his map on free-hand style. This means that if you're a mapper that doesn't go for patterning but rather free placement with aesthetical spacing complementation that just moves around the screen as the map goes, taking the first object into analysis is just useless
2- You're actually modding the spacing of the starting pattern, in which case, you don't mention the first object, but rather you mod the pattern itself 00:00:348 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - and mention whatever it is you need to about spacing/flow/visual etc
3- You actually took into account that it's a relevant aspect when the mapper is making a playfield concept map, which is the case here. This map uses a lot of specific spots on the playfield for specific sound trasitions which is the aspect I hoped ppl would mod and suggest stuff to improve it. But since it's too subtle I guess it's just one of those things ppl may never notice (after all you need to make stuff retarded nowadays to people notice stuff in a map since everything is exaggerated when ppl think of concepts).
So yeah the reason it's placed there is because it's the starting point of the map and also the ending point of the map 01:37:563 (1) - something you could never noticed since you modded just 30 seconds of the diff , there's also the fact that whenever I wasn't on kiai, the emphasized stuff (combo 1) most of the time is placed above on the playfield, compared to the objects that follows it.
00:13:829 (5,6) - Why is this not a slider :S Considering how you mapped 00:13:069 (3,4) - . I did to avoid repetition, but you want more consistency, so I made it slider, FIXED
00:16:867 (5,6) - etc..^^
00:18:765 (2,1) - This is way too big, and it causes the jump onto 00:19:145 (2,1) - to feel totally unemphasized. Because it was intended that way. This entire pattern is made in groups 00:18:575 (1,2,1,2) - /00:19:335 (1,2,1,2) - /00:20:094 (1,2,1,2) - /00:20:854 (1,2,1,2) - /00:21:613 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1) - that's my interpretation for the song there. The first group is more importantly mapped compared to the second one.
00:20:474 (1,2,1,2) - Same ideas here. Your emphasis is misplaced and you're suddenly emphasizing red ticks. It causes the jump on 00:21:423 (2,1) - to feel unimportant comparativeily cuz of the similar spacing being used earlier.I re-worked the spacing here to avoid making 2-1 transitions bigger to the consecutive 1-2
You're clearly mapping these jumps for aesthetic purposes but theyre hurting playability.Playability is fine, not using unplayable stuff here, just unsual wide angles.
00:24:272 (1,2,3,4,1) - If you rotated thsi 120 degrees it would flow so much better considering the counterclockwise movement you had earlier~It would, but that also would make the transition to the stream fall flat with confortable flow, you see, I'm doing a contrast there; the angles here 00:23:322 (2,3,4,5,6) - are all linear 120º but the stream moviment is sudden sharpenedto 60º 00:24:082 (6,1) - This makes it difficult while still keeping it spacing wise coherenthttps://puu.sh/y1DgL.png
00:25:411 - Why isn't this mapped tho lol... It's a piano sound with no percussion; Also there's a rhythm construction here; 00:24:651 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - first you have the gap idea that should come up with all groups 00:24:651 (1,2) - /00:25:220 (3,4) - /00:25:980 (1,2) - /00:26:740 (1,2) - second, you have an increasing singletap objects groupíng from 2 00:25:031 (2,3) - to 3 00:25:601 (4,5,1,2,3,1) - to 400:27:120 (2,3,4,1) - which helps building up a bit more of tension in this section
Uhh I really can't agree with how you map this lmao... I feel that way about a lot of maps out there, but meh, ppl should be allowed to get pp with no effort.
If you actually plan to make convincing changes to what i mentioned earlier, then you can poke me to mod the rest of the diff.Whatever issues you may point that will improve the map inside its concepts I'll change it just like I did with this mod ^^, so feel free to point more stuff.
You guys are trying too hard to be creative, but there is no baseline "standard mapping" to deviate from though. The issue with making everything creative is, if there is nothing to deviate from, it doesn't come across as unique or special, just different. Look at Shizuku's approach if you want a good idea of how to properly implement creative elements.
It's creative as much as it is different. I'd say that going for a different mapping might not be creative inside your own idea Monstrata, but being different is something that this mapset is REALLY going for and something that ranked category is missing currently.
Do you know WHY you liked Shizuku- diff more?
It wasn't because of the contrast between "regular" and "irregular" sections, it's because the map itself was made with the current mapping visual/spacing standards and you could recognize your mapping there.
looking at this visual is painful for most of the current mapping/modding community Compared to this for example
But you guys need to understand that this fact is not objectivelly "one is better compared to the other" is just preference. I don't like current visuals and so I map for the people who also don't like the current standards.
Also every single modder had its own "personal favorite" among the diffs, and that only proves how well this mapset result is because EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE INSANE DIFFS is different compared to each other, and that's how it is supposed to be.
Mirash/Delis visual is kinda similar, however delis design is more classy and oriented into Shinxyn while Mirash follows his own mapping based on overmapped rhythms/90º flow similar to a few 2012 maps. Trynna makes everything flow linear like an insane diff, but adds some cool stuff to make it more interesting such as the double pattern visual idea 00:00:917 (3,4) - that's used in a lot of different ways in different song sections to keep the player attention while also introducing 1/2 spacing concepts similar to Delis and Mirash 00:23:322 (1,2,3,4,5) - . Bariton is a big fan of imoutosan's idea of overlapping sliders and his overall mapping is based on that while keeping the star rating low so that even new players can enjoy something a bit different. Shizuku- and Mun have a more contemporary aesthetic idea in their maps. Shizuku-'s goes for a traditional modern map but adding a reading element with stacks in it, while Mun pretty much uses a techical mapping structure whenever it's possible and the song supports it.
2017-09-16 01:58 Net0: omg are you really mapping that too?!https://puu.sh/y27jV.mp3
2017-09-16 02:05 Monstrata: yes!!
2017-09-16 02:06 Monstrata: do you want me to gd for you?
2017-09-16 02:06 Monstrata: ill just upload for now you're free to take it im not going to make a full set ^^
2017-09-16 02:06 Net0: well sure
2017-09-16 02:06 Net0: Where did you took the mp3?
2017-09-16 02:06 Net0: offset and stuff
2017-09-16 02:08 Monstrata: stole from ur set so it should be fine
2017-09-16 02:08 Net0: oh it's rainbows
2017-09-16 02:08 Net0: damn for a second I honestly thought it was serious
2017-09-16 02:08 Net0: you got me
2017-09-16 02:09 Net0: kinda interesting tho, even fullscreen for the entire song it can only goes as far as 7*
2017-09-16 02:14 Monstrata: lol yea
2017-09-16 02:14 Net0: rhythm op
2017-09-16 02:44 Net0: I'm kinda curious tho, why did you have my set in the first place?
2017-09-16 02:52 Monstrata: was just like "lol another natsukoi hanabi pp farm map"
2017-09-16 02:52 Monstrata: might as well make another :D
2017-09-16 02:52 Net0: hmm
2017-09-16 02:53 Net0: well it isn't :/
2017-09-16 02:54 Net0: but yeah funny meme
Net0 wrote:
while Mirash follows his own mapping based on overmapped rhythms
please choose only one of these conflicting argumentsNet0 wrote:
So yeah I don't think we're tryharding or forcing stuff in a degree that ISN'T already stablished as rankable.
Monstrata wrote:
You're welcome to disagree. Maps that try to push the boundaries / go against the norms of the meta typically take a lot more effort to rank, but you're well aware of that.Yeah, even tho I don’t think there’s anything THAT spectacular NEW with any diff, sure I can’t rank this to celebrate anyones birthday.
My issue with many difficulties in this mapset is that you've executed these gimmicky and "creative" elements with no relation to anything standard or "normal" so there is no juxtaposition that allows these creative elements to shine. Because you’re going for a specific definition of “normal” mapping. You see, if I compare in a DJPop maps parts that are supposed to shine and parts that are not supposed do shine, I need to evaluate it differently if I were to mod one of your regular maps beucase the core used to structure the map is entirely different. Let me show you;
If a map is made on grid snap 1, fully DSed. The analisys of a part that is supposed to shine and parts that are not can’t be done with spacing concept. If visuals are also an element that’s null because of slider design limitation, the evaluation there should be on flow element, and that’s pretty straight forward if you compare how both of this plays;
https://puu.sh/y29Gk.jpg / https://puu.sh/y29Ia.jpg is pretty obvious on what is being more emphasized compared to the other one.
And that applies to any map that has an intensity component added to its composition;
In your maps for example, you have the same visual/flow in the entire map, so the only element that can be took into analysis as for the shine/non-shine thing is spacing;
Non-kiai
http://puu.sh/y29N7.jpg /
Kiai
https://puu.sh/y29RT.jpg
And that can be took into account in any map of any level of difficulty. HOWEVER you’re generically pointing that the diffs don’t have that contrast but you never mentioned that IN THE MOD itself.
On their own, the patterns could be pretty cool, but there is no substance to them currently. It's unfortunately, because many of the mappers in this set seem to know their way around the editor. But you guys are using too many different concepts and not tying them in. There are a lot of "oh this is cool" moments that turn into "wait why is it like this now?" two seconds after because you shift to a different pattern, or a different approach. This set to me, showcases mappers with good potential who are biting off more than they can chew by trying to introduce and set up too many creative components. This entire paragraph is just rethoric argumentation. “On their own, the patterns could be pretty cool, but there is no substance to them currently.” Saying there’s no substance means nothing. It’s just personal criticism, it’s just like a line a movie critic would say about a specific acting of a person in a movie for example.
“But you guys are using too many different concepts and not tying them in.” really? So you think that Mirash map suddenly becomes another map midway? If that was the case would be really simple to point that out; “Yo Mirash your map up until the second verse is one thing, when you start mapping the bridge of the song and chorus you’re totally using different stuff” Another element is that EACH diff is different. So each diff has its own concepts to be “tying them in.. Shizuku- with the reading/stack aspect, Mirash diff with flow, Bariton diff with its overlap visual, etc. And AGAIN, you didn’t mentioned in the mod where it was off, when any of the diffs just didn’t implement something accordingly.
If you want to improve your map, ask yourself why you've deviated from the "expected/standard" way of mapping for a particular element or pattern. If your answer is something along the lines of "i want to make it different" then reconsider your reasoning. If your answer is "I want to highlight X" (X being a particular instrument, the pitch, the rhythm, the emphasis, etc...) then keep. You’re assuming now that we don’t know what we’re doing because you QUICKLLY checked the diffs and couldn’t grasp it, so now it’s our fault? Even tho we did mapped accordingly to what you’re saying? Quick example
Mirash diff; 00:20:854 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) – why would you map this with straight lines and on the next section 00:23:322 (1,2,3,4,5) – make a square?! Oh that’s because the map uses a straight visual, and to make distinction of the two different measures 00:21:993 - ~ 00:22:942 - / 00:23:322 - ~ 00:24:272 -. Spacing and flow changed accordingly, also avoid the linear repetition with the song change, there’s a symmetrical patterning build here 00:24:272 (1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1) – instead of the previous free-hand design, etc, etc.
If a modder doesn’t understand a certain idea in the map, he should ASK about it. Not assume the mapper doesn’t know what he’s doing.
But then ask yourself "If i want to highlight X using method Y, do I really need to highlight X using method Z, A, B, C, D, E, F as well?" (Methods being "flow break, spacing changes, linear flow, overlaps, stacks etc....)" And hopefully your answer will be "No", or in rare cases"Yes, but only because method Y and Z relate very well to each other."
Again you didn’t ask yourself that when you modded my diff for example; you modded this section 00:18:575 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1) – and all you could see was the visual element of it to justify its existence, but failed to notice the fact that every single object 00:18:575 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) – is upwards compared to 00:18:765 (2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2) – and also failed to question yourself WHY only 00:21:044 (2) – and 00:22:942 (1) – are the exception of that rule. That also applies to other concepts such as spacing, why is this group 00:18:575 (1,2,1,2) – contrast between spacing on 1-2 vs 2-1 difference bigger compared to 00:19:335 (1,2,1,2) - , or flow , why does this part flows linear 00:21:613 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1) – instead of angular like the previous 1-2. So yeah, I map using everything you’re saying.
Hope you understand my position better now. I watched the vod of you modding this map, I heard “Please don’t tell me this is bubbled”, I can already understand your position pretty clearly. But what I really think that comes up with all of this is how unwilling you were to mod the map in the first place. If you really didn’t want to mod this I gave you other options, also, you could just say “Hey I don’t like any of the songs you have currently, do you mind if I own you a mod on something else in the future?” . Because honestly, anything is better compared to a mod made with bad faith.
I've come to understand your perspective better, so I'm not as afraid to put a veto. But I probably won't unless you find some random BN to yolo bubble this. “Random BN”so you find the memes towards you offensive, but saying that there are BNs who are random and BNs who are not random is not offensive when EVERY single BN is an important part of the BNG is not offensive…
This was the most helpful mod that this mapset has received to date. Thank you!Monstrata wrote:
Mun's Expert
00:06:992 (1,2,3) - Why the sudden change in structure here? I don't see much of a change in structure here at all, aside from that which the music merits as it transitions into the next section.
00:11:360 (3,4) - Why stack? :S that would be because i am bad
00:21:044 (5,6) - Why the huge 1/4 jump here xp see above
00:25:980 (1,4) - Can you not overlap? lmao u got it
00:35:854 (3,4,5) - This just looks bad cuz its a different visual structure compared to just an object before. Two competing grid structures end up causing structural inconsistenties Thanks for the input! I'd like more feedback on whether the change is acceptable if possible, though
00:47:626 (2,3,4) - Why are they so close together they touch like that xd. your cs is high enough xd unclosened
00:49:525 (3,1) - Looks off visually xP make more symmetrical or something. symmetricized
lol xd lol
You guys are trying too hard to be creative, but there is no baseline "standard mapping" to deviate from though. The issue with making everything creative is, if there is nothing to deviate from, it doesn't come across as unique or special, just different. Look at Shizuku's approach if you want a good idea of how to properly implement creative elements.
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Because mapping basic stuff is boring and not originalSnowNiNo_ wrote:
why do ppl try to map gimmicks
when the song isnt gimmicky at all
:thinking:
Monstrata wrote:
Shizuku's Extra
00:10:791 (1,1) - Stacks Whoops, no one saw that one
00:25:411 - Don't understand why you dont map this. But i can understand every other part. it's just here theres also the insturment didn't feel the need to add a note since I mostly follow the percussion instruments
This is great. This is how you should map a gimmick honestly. There are overlapping/stacking/hard to read patterns but they are really well integrated. you have a baseline that is "normal" mapping so when you switch to sections that are different, they feel unique and special. Good job! Coming from you, it's a really nice thing to say. Considering for the past 2 years, you hated my mapping style since it didn't make sense at all. It's good to see that comment from you because that's when I know that I improved on mapping, even though it took so long to do so.
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tbh i really can't understand doubles here too, even if i listen closely i don't get it. moving 3 at the white tick would make much more sense to meMirash wrote:
@Hobbes2 if you listen closely, sounds in music start at 00:21:423 (1) - and end on 00:21:803 (4) - while it could be a stream because of strong tomb, i find the way doublets represent that sounds more appropriate here, if i'm not a total retard. i might change it though, if someone actually will convince me with something more than WHYWHYWHYitIsOvermap
also got very tilted because of discussions i've seen, thanks
when did this become a thing ? thoses streams emphasize or express nothing in the song, i don't get it, why is this even a thingNet0 wrote:
while Mirash follows his own mapping based on overmapped rhythms
Agree with Nino here..Jounzan wrote:
Because mapping basic stuff is boring and not originalSnowNiNo_ wrote:
why do ppl try to map gimmicks
when the song isnt gimmicky at all
:thinking:
Delis wrote:
>u<
That was my bad! Restored.Delis wrote:
I've never been mapping just to make every circle sense btw maybe not a good thing to tell someone what to do by your words >u<
p.s. my post with the fixed .osu is deleted holy shit
...right no wonder mapping meta sucks nice mentality you got thereNet0 wrote:
but meh, ppl should be allowed to get pp with no effort.