Kawawa wrote:

iLLness LinLin, iLLness LunLun, iLLness LanLan.

루드 : 히나후와 링링 히나후와 룽룽 히나후와 랑랑

Kawawa wrote:

Mania Nominated!

Myle wrote:

please yes

Myle wrote:

please yes

1. 00:15:072 (2,3) - this distance seems to be really inconsistent compared to anything else, so I suggest you to increase this a little bit
2. 00:20:537 (4,5) - I also think this one deserves a little bit more movement placed here
3. 00:30:929 (3,4) - Again, I really think you should increase density of this since the music is pretty dense itself here... Maybe at least make them gorizontal?
4. 00:36:501 (4,1) - I think it's quite awkward to see anti flow dashes in salad, so I'd suggest you to make it lees anti-flowie, maybe by adjusting (1) into more curved slider? you know what I mean :p
5. 00:40:144 (5,1) - do I need to talk about this? (1) is placed on downbeat, and I feel like the distance between these is even smaller than 00:39:501 (2,3,4,5) - between these. I suggest you to move (1) a little bit right
6. 01:17:215 (2,3) - The same thing I already suggested to be changed in 00:30:929 (3,4) -.
   aaa why do I like to mod salads but I make such a stupid suggestions

1. 00:10:251 (3,1) -; 00:06:822 (3,1) - Really feels inconsistent with previous patterns and also undermapped since there's a downbeat on (1). Suggesting increasing the distance, just like you did before here 00:05:537 (2,3,4,1) -; 00:08:966 (2,3,4,1) -;
2. 00:28:572 (1) - What about moving a few grids right? Plays nice imo, but just a quick suggestion though

1. 00:20:965 (6,7) - If you wanted to emphasize something with increased distance for forcing players to make a dash - then it's a good idea to increase the distance between these, by moving (7) a little bit right
2. 00:25:679 (6,1) - What about placing a dash here? Seems reasonable to me.. maybe move (1) to x348?
3. 00:34:037 (2) - Just a few grids left, for the same reason like in the first suggestion
4. 00:38:965 (4,5,6) -; 00:42:394 (4,5,6) - Could you please tell me why these are so easy while being in the more intense part of the song than these 00:45:822 (2,3,4) -; 00:46:679 (2,3,4) - ? I really think you should increase some distances in the places I suggested in the first place. My suggestion is to move 00:39:072 (5,6) - to x276, while making them more gorizontal to keep the HDash between 00:39:287 (6,1) -, and just to increase the distance between 00:42:394 (4,5) -.
5. 00:55:251 (6,7) - Aaaa just increase a little bit, and you might also want to make a dash between 00:55:679 (10,1) - since (1) is placed at downbeat
6. 01:05:216 (1) - Do I need to repeat myself twice for this snap to get fixed?

1. 00:21:287 (4,1) - I think (1) can be emphasized a little bit more, so I suggest you to move it a little bit right
2. 00:32:322 (4,5) -; 00:37:464 (4,5) - Just remove the distance between these so they don't look similar to 00:32:108 (3,4) -; 00:37:250 (3,4) -.
3. 00:53:751 (3,1) - Aaa I think the distance should be increased a little bit here, since even 00:53:215 (1,2) - emphasized more while having the same distance but combined with a little anti flow
4. 01:01:286 (6,7,1) -; 01:04:715 (6,7,1) - Hey hey, I think you tried to make here some sort of growing distance pattern idea, but still I really think you should be consistent here with these 01:09:001 (6,7,1) -; 01:12:429 (6,7,1) - since there's really no any changes is music
5. 01:25:144 (2,1,2,1) - Hm, now I got you growing distance idea to fit increasing vocals, but I think there should be a HDash leading to 01:25:358 (1) -; 01:25:572 (2) -; 01:25:787 (1) - just for making growing idea better

1. 00:06:287 (1,2) - The distance between these is not consistent with these 00:05:644 (1,2) -; and also it feels really tricky sometimes. Suggesting decreasing it

OscarRickyH02 wrote:

is this ready for bubble or its still need mods? because i got something on heavenly diff that im not happy about...
nvm i'll post it here anyway

i'm just thinking that 01:24:394 - and 01:26:644 - sv is a bit "too sudden" for me and some of my friends (which actually a hidden player), so if you prefer you can add some gradual increase (like when you try co change speed from 0.1x to 1.0x you can add 0.3x, 0.5x, 0.7x between those two) or else you can move 1.0x speed earlier (that means 0.1x speed ends faster)

01:24:394 - is calculated and I personally feel this is well made.
01:26:644 - This is pretty yes, but when I see a lot of testplayers, not much players get missed on here, so I'd like to keep

but that is optional you you can either accept it or reject since i only judge that from our first play

and holy shit if this rank i wonder how broken ctb pp is

edit, more issues:

and 01:36:929 - i don't mean this is uncomfortable but i think this is just unnecessary to put bump there because it covers piano sound that have soft characteristic meanwhile, i think bump should be cover hard-strong-sudden sound or whatever it called like this one 01:15:929 - that was soo good actually

This sound is not so harder pumping, but I thought this high-pitch piano is well match with SVs.

and again this is not because of uncomfortability, this is just idk you either skip or accidentally missed some sound on solo piano part (sorry my mod placed randomly, this should be in first place because this is on earlier part of the song) like in 00:52:465 -, 00:52:679 and 00:53:537
You may see that I'm following high-pitched piano sounds

Myle wrote:

HA, since I really want to see this in the ranked section and just "yes" won't help it getting to the ranked - here comes the mod owo
[Sc4's C.NOVICE]
modding my mentor huh :^)

1. 00:15:072 (2,3) - this distance seems to be really inconsistent compared to anything else, so I suggest you to increase this a little bit Doesn't really hurt so sure
2. 00:20:537 (4,5) - I also think this one deserves a little bit more movement placed here Yeap
3. 00:30:929 (3,4) - Again, I really think you should increase density of this since the music is pretty dense itself here... Maybe at least make them gorizontal? Idk I think it will be more confusing because the screech is the prominent sound here, so trying to follow some other sound to make it more dense might just be unintuitive instead. Did make them more horizontal tho
4. 00:36:501 (4,1) - I think it's quite awkward to see anti flow dashes in salad, so I'd suggest you to make it lees anti-flowie, maybe by adjusting (1) into more curved slider? you know what I mean :p Did try to make it more curved but it's almost the same no matter how I do it lul
5. 00:40:144 (5,1) - do I need to talk about this? (1) is placed on downbeat, and I feel like the distance between these is even smaller than 00:39:501 (2,3,4,5) - between these. I suggest you to move (1) a little bit right Eh wt how did this happen xD
6. 01:17:215 (2,3) - The same thing I already suggested to be changed in 00:30:929 (3,4) -. Yea this part's quite dense, but them being quite fast might just look cluttered in low AR like this(even with high BPM), so I would rather go for lower density. Also made them more horizontal
   aaa why do I like to mod salads but I make such a stupid suggestions Nobody likes modding salads what are you talking about ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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96,80,79358,1,8,0:0:0:0:
80,128,79465,1,8,0:0:0:0:
96,176,79572,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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168,160,80644,2,0,L|264:128,1,81.9999999999999
336,104,81072,1,0,0:0:0:0:
16,128,81501,6,0,P|24:176|136:232,1,164,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,176,82358,1,8,0:0:0:0:
392,136,82572,1,8,0:0:0:0:
304,176,82787,1,8,0:0:0:0:
112,224,83215,5,8,0:0:0:0:
16,216,83429,1,8,0:0:0:0:
112,224,83644,1,8,0:0:0:0:
304,192,84072,1,8,0:0:0:0:
392,144,84287,1,8,0:0:0:0:
464,80,84501,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,112,84929,6,0,P|136:184|288:208,1,246,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
376,168,85787,2,0,B|472:88|472:88|376:168,1,246,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,184,86644,6,0,P|120:152|160:40,1,164,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,8,87287,1,0,0:0:0:0:
152,72,87501,1,0,0:0:0:0:
120,104,87608,1,0,0:0:0:0:
88,136,87715,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,160,87929,2,0,L|112:216,1,81.9999999999999,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,240,88358,6,0,L|440:152,1,123,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,88,89001,2,0,L|144:208,1,164,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
88,240,89644,2,0,L|152:304,1,81.9999999999999,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,288,90072,6,0,L|336:232,2,81.9999999999999,8|2|8,0:3|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,336,90715,2,0,L|320:224,1,164,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
376,184,91358,2,0,L|296:112,1,81.9999999999999,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,136,91787,6,0,L|8:216,2,123,8|8|2,0:3|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,64,92858,2,0,L|376:144,2,81.9999999999999,2|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,32,93501,6,0,L|56:128,1,123,8|8,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,152,94144,2,0,P|272:208|200:272,1,164,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,320,94787,2,0,L|48:240,1,81.9999999999999,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,256,95215,6,0,L|368:288,2,81.9999999999999,4|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,240,96072,2,0,L|168:176,1,81.9999999999999,8|8,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
232,144,96501,2,0,L|144:80,1,81.9999999999999,8|8,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
360,64,96929,6,0,L|440:112,2,81.9999999999999,12|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,64,97572,2,0,P|216:88|280:160,1,164,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
376,160,98215,2,0,L|312:224,1,81.9999999999999,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,216,98644,6,0,L|336:304,2,123,8|8|2,0:3|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
32,136,99715,2,0,L|104:72,1,81.9999999999999,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,80,100144,1,2,0:0:0:0:
400,96,100358,6,0,L|480:64,2,81.9999999999999,8|0|0,0:3|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,128,101001,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,168,101215,2,0,P|32:192|88:320,1,246
288,240,102072,5,12,0:0:0:0:
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256,216,103358,1,8,0:0:0:0:
168,168,103572,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,176,103787,6,0,L|152:112,1,81.9999999999999,8|2,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,72,104215,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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360,120,105072,2,0,L|296:176,1,81.9999999999999,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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224,136,106144,2,0,P|264:96|184:40,1,164,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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216,192,109358,2,0,L|152:136,1,81.9999999999999,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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312,56,117501,1,2,0:1:0:0:

Critical_Star wrote:

some suggestion before qualify

BASIC
00:14:644 (14644|3,15072|0,15501|2,15929|1) - maybe change to LN? it seems fit nicely with 1/4 stream sound here
00:54:072 - 00:55:787 - would suggest to add a note here for piano - that break time is kinda intended
01:06:072 (66072|1) - move to 3?

NOVICE
00:36:072 (36072|0,36233|1,36394|2) - suggest 4.1-4

ADVANCED
00:41:644 - suggestion > http://puu.sh/xtQ1j/a70578a4cc.png
00:55:465 (55465|2,55572|1) - CTRL+H here seems cool - other diffs has same similiar stairs in here so keep I guess
01:35:001 - double note?
01:56:590 - seems like you are not breaking 3 note stream anymore, better to make it full 1/4 here

EXHAUST
01:44:858 (104858|3,104858|2,104912|0,105072|2,105072|1,105179|3,105287|1,105287|0) - having 1/3 piano here should be fine

jAkAds' MAXIMUM
01:36:849 (96849|2,96876|0,96903|1) - should be 1/4 piano here, even the burst sound stopped at 01:36:822 -
01:56:429 - try 2-1-2-2 instead of double trill?

HEAVENLY
00:33:769 (33769|1,33822|2,33822|2,33876|3) - seems 1/3 to me, might wanna recheck similiar part for this - nah it's not 1/3,actual synths are 00:33:769 - 00:33:876 - here, and chi! for 00:33:822 - here
01:35:001 - 1/3 piano sound stopped here
01:46:715 (106715|3,106929|3) - not really a 1/3 piano sound here, it may look uncomfortable to break it. will leave it too you. if u remove, be sure to do it for other diff too - Im definitely sure there are pianos

Arzenvald wrote:

im wet
sweating a lot its so hot here

Critical_Star wrote:

some suggestion before qualify
jAkAds' MAXIMUM
01:36:849 (96849|2,96876|0,96903|1) - should be 1/4 piano here, even the burst sound stopped at 01:36:822 - Applied, though I followed the drum sound, so I only deleted 01:36:903 -
01:56:429 - try 2-1-2-2 instead of double trill? nah i intentionally did jumptrill for the final burst
also 2-1-2-2 is way harder lel

jakads wrote:

Critical_Star wrote:

some suggestion before qualify
jAkAds' MAXIMUM
01:36:849 (96849|2,96876|0,96903|1) - should be 1/4 piano here, even the burst sound stopped at 01:36:822 - Applied, though I followed the drum sound and it seems to end 01:36:903 - here, so I only deleted that
01:56:429 - try 2-1-2-2 instead of double trill? nah i intentionally did jumptrill for the final burst
also 2-1-2-2 is way harder lel

danke

Pope Gadget wrote:

can u not

Litharrale wrote:

Blocko wrote:

Hey there. Some questionable patterns were found in your map and I thought I'd point them out to start a discussion.

[HEAVENLY]
00:44:644 (44644|0,44671|3,44697|1,44724|2,44751|0,44778|3,44804|1,44831|2,44858|0,44858|3,44965|1,44992|2,45019|0,45046|3,45072|1) - Rolls are hard to do, but split rolls are even harder, and that's even counting the amount of tension, comprehension and coordination it takes to properly play it. I get that this part is meant to be stressful, but split rolls make this part way more difficult than it should be.
Would recommend using regular rolls (123412341234) instead so this part is not as stressful, and to reduce awkwardness to make the map more comfortable to play. - Kinda agree that it makes awkwardness ya, it must not need to be change I guess, but I'll change it if you are highly disagree with it

00:53:537 - Think you missed a piano note here if you were focusing on the melody. - Nah, as you can see, I followed high-pitched piano only.

01:48:929 (108929|0,108929|3,108983|1,108983|2,109037|3,109037|0,109090|2,109090|1,109144|0,109144|3) - I would strongly recommend turning these into regular jumptrills instead (a la [12][34][12][34][12]). Split jumptrills at a constant rate as this are very difficult to pull off, especially at 280 BPM, because they take a lot more coordination, speed and stamina to play through them. Compared to the rest of your map which uses jumptrills regularly, this pattern particularly stands out as a big spike due to how uncomfortable this is and the amount of tension it takes to properly execute this.

01:49:787 (109787|0,109787|3,109840|1,109840|2,109894|3,109894|0,109947|2,109947|1,110001|3,110001|0) - Same case as above. Even when the song builds up for the ending, this is still a big uncomfortable spike compared to the rest of the map. Would strongly recommend using regular jumptrills instead.

Generally, I think any split-related pattern should be avoided at such a very high BPM unless you have a very valid reason to be using them. Otherwise, they shouldn't be used because of the amount of speed and coordination it takes to play them properly.
I actually considered for this too and here's what I intended
01:48:929 - ~ 01:51:929 - I actually intended in this part as most hard pattern in this map, like not only that 14-23-14-23, 01:50:644 - 01:51:501 - idk you've already noticed or not but they are also pretty hard to hit in overall of this difficulty.
I'm pretty sure you've seen that most of this map is structured with 12-34 patterns which are pretty easy to hit. so I would like to make harder pattern in the last section, this is what I intended, also this difficulty is 6.4* so I thought it should be kinda more harder, but if there's other refutation for it, I would appreciate that

Let me know your thoughts on this!

Fresh Chicken wrote:

Blocko wrote:

00:53:537 - Think you missed a piano note here if you were focusing on the melody.

- Nah, as you can see, I followed high-pitched piano only.

Blocko wrote:

Discussed with Fresh Chicken about the split patterning in HEAVENLY, and we came to a conclusion to change them to something more comfortable.

Best of luck to your set, FC!

P.S. I'm not ET.

Aras wrote:

actueally you notes the high pitched piano wrong, the "high pitched" piano actuallly is located here 00:52:358 (52358|0,52572|1,52787|2,53001|0) - , 00:53:322 (53322|1,53429|2) - + 00:53:537 - , and here 00:53:751 (53751|1,53858|2,53965|3) -

if you want to follow high pitched oonly, you should actually delete 00:53:215 (53215|3,53644|0) - and add note on 00:53:537 -I guess I slipped of the saying. I mean the pianos which are pretty audible loudly

then this LN end snap 01:03:072 (63072|2) - , pretty sure jakads had the right snap, I know you want to simplify it, - Both are right. You actually can hear a sound that sounds like slipping(?) 01:03:233 - in here. I just made all of them into 1/1 LN for make more simple. You may saw that same sections like this have very simple patterns, that's intended. 01:02:644 - 01:06:072 - 01:09:501 -
then what about this 01:09:715 (69715|3,69929|2,70072|2,70215|2) - ? they actually are the same sound, yet you put those 140BPM 1/3 JACK, dang bruh, those sound are just an echo of the voice sample - hthese are not even following a voice sample. This is for dubstep.

I also think this 01:06:179 (66179|2) - will suits better on column 4 and also it will look more balanced nah, this one is trivial - This one is pretty acceptable

qqqant wrote:

so no one said anything about the SV at 00:28:251 that acts weird with a barline skin???????