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Mapper 31
Hi~
May I make taiko diff?
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HakuNoKaemi
yes you can!
Mapper 31
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HakuNoKaemi
thank you!
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HakuNoKaemi
the next release with hit and comboburst skin will contain it!
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HakuNoKaemi
released
Kuroneko-sHerald
Title: Dovrebbe essere "No buts!" con la b minuscola (si vede anche nel video). Una volta cambiato full-submitta.
Tags: A mio parere dovresti lasciare solo "technopop techno pop" perché "anime" e "japanese" verranno messe nel genere e "visual novel" e "2nd season" perché non servono.

Audio: Secondo le nuove regole può essere massimo 256kbps, per cui convertilo o se non lo sai fare chiedi qui.

Video: togli l'audio dal video oppure scarica questo.

Megaupload Link : Difficilmente qualcuno lo scaricherà, per cui ti consiglio di toglierlo.

[Easy]
Aumenta l'HP Drain Rate di 1 o 2
00:30:384 (3) - Troppo lungo :o Dividilo.

[Normal]
Diminuisci di 1 il Circle Size (cioè che diventano più grandi).
00:30:384 (4) - Come la easy.

Hard
Più che Hard mi pare un Insane.
Personalmente ti direi di rifarla da capo perché non mi piace affatto, ma fa come vuoi.
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HakuNoKaemi
ecco le mie prove di conversione del video:
SUPER: errore!
Adobe Media Encoder: non me lo permette
Total Video Converter: la qualita peggiora, la dimensione aumenta quindi non posso risparmiare. Per farlo restare della stessa qualità, la dimensione raddoppia( o meglio in certe parti migliora)

Nel video in avi che hai messo se guardi attettamente nei cambi di scena e nelle scene senza Misaka Mikoto e Styll, si vedono parecchi disturbi.
(che non si vedono nel normale) e nel mio ci sono parecchi disturbi attorno le scritte.

sono riuscito a trovare un modo ultratedioso di farlo.
Youtube fa in modo che i propri video possano essere convertiti solo a qualità persa, quindi ho scaricato l'HD, l''ho aperto con Vegas, ho inserito dei filtri per l'HD ( cioè, l'HD è da urlo ) e poi l'ho convertito in Flv a 480p togliendo la musica.
ShanaTan
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HakuNoKaemi
Thank you!
Shana
awsome song Star!
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HakuNoKaemi
Thank you Shana!
Nekoo's helping me in IRC!
Foster Don
good map friend, but the offset is 240
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HakuNoKaemi

lordfoster wrote:

good map friend, but the offset is 240
arleady decreased it by ( 35(frost-b-spec) and 14(cesc) ) then don't want to increase it by 20
Inamaru
Rifai un upload completo della beatmap...
La easy appena la fai partire crasha...
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HakuNoKaemi
fatto

oreimo is powa!
Inamaru
Approfitto per darti una star meritata :)
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HakuNoKaemi
thank you 8-)
maal
320 kbps mp3's are a waste of space. Please re-encode to 128-256 kbps!
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HakuNoKaemi

Emaal wrote:

320 kbps mp3's are a waste of space. Please re-encode to 128-256 kbps!
it's arleady reencoded to 256 Kbps
Armin
~L'audio dell'mp3 è decisamente basso. Scarica questo, sostituiscilo nella tua cartella e poi dopo fai una full submission: http://www.mediafire.com/?fvax0b6d37dzqsx
~L'offset è sbagliato. Aggiustalo a 248 e dopo non dimenticare di fare il resnap di tutte le note (Timing > Resnap All Notes)
~In generale, nelle tue difficoltà, ci sono degli sbalzi audio che sono brutti da ascoltare (cambiamenti da Normal a Soft, e così via). Considera di risolvere il problema usando solo un tipo di hitsounds.

Per il momento inizia a fixare questo, successivamente darò un'occhiata approfondita alle diff (ti preannuncio che non mi piacciono molto, a parte la Normal e la guest di Nekoo)
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HakuNoKaemi
fatto ^.^
Inamaru
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HakuNoKaemi
Aggiunta!
Kodoshi
Stella~
fuffolo
Actually i'm glad to know that there is still some-one that have fun making some new skin, well done :D
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HakuNoKaemi
grazie ^.^
Ana Kagura
I like it *---*
it' a very good map
here's your star babe *-*
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HakuNoKaemi
thank you!
Saixina_x3
starred
Yama Chan_old
staaar!!
Barney Stinson
Yea! I like It! Star!
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HakuNoKaemi
thank to you all XD
Sanji
Bella e bravo ^^
[Shalon]
Maps are so fine.

star.
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HakuNoKaemi
Thank!
Celycchan
yay! Great song!
Star~~
Mutsui
Rick Starred !
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HakuNoKaemi
thank!
thekillerhjkhjk
General:

the skin =.= its way too complicated. its way too hard to see with the also-complicated background video, making many parts unrankable.
Also, you can't see the cursor on the spinner. i dont have a problem, but i think some people will. do as you will

[nekoo's insane]

00:15:985 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - the skin makes this area a tad bit hard to read
01:01:559 (1,2,3,4) - don't have blue combocolour. it makes this part unfairly hard to read against the video

[hard]
00:13:362 (1) - add break after this note
00:19:920 (1) - this slider is abnormally ugly. please fix
00:23:198 (6,7,8,9) - add one more note after
00:28:444 (5,6,7,8) - ^
00:29:100 (1,2,1) - this underlapping is very confusing and not very good
00:40:903 (5) - make less scrunched up and ugly
00:55:329 (1,2,3,4) - these are just uneccesary
01:23:526 (6) - make the end of the slider zero volume

[normal]
00:47:133 (6) - this is uneven and may be confusing at which way to go at first for people who play normal
01:01:887 (1,1,1,1) - remove extra combos
01:12:051 (1,1,1,1) - ^
01:16:313 (1) - end this spinner in a less awkward place

[easy]
00:13:362 (1) - add break after this note
00:41:559 (6) - easy is for noobs, and a noob probably wouldnt be able to see this note.


map is alright, but needs a bit of work.

i'm not starring this JUST yet. at least fix the skin problems, repost in my queue, and ill recheck for starring.
wmfchris
[general]
mp3@ 256 kbps, compres it to 128~192
unique audio lead-in in each diff

[31]
yeah fine

[Nekoo's Insane]
0:04:838 (7) stack on ending of (5)
0:55:821 (4) up 1 grid
1:08:608 (2) right 1 grid

[hard]
0:23:526 (x) add one here
0:28:772 (x) ^?
0:34:018 (1,2,3,4) uneven spacing, so as (5,6,7,8)
0:47:133 (4) right 1 grid
1:28:772 (6) make this symmetrical?

[Normal]
fine for me

star~
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
General:

the skin =.= its way too complicated. its way too hard to see with the also-complicated background video, making many parts unrankable. -> Most of the skin problem are derived from the fact i'm not using custom colors and it depend on the basic colours of the skin
Also, you can't see the cursor on the spinner. i dont have a problem, but i think some people will. do as you will

[nekoo's insane]

00:15:985 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - the skin makes this area a tad bit hard to read
01:01:559 (1,2,3,4) - don't have blue combocolour. it makes this part unfairly hard to read against the video

[hard]
00:13:362 (1) - add break after this note - Done
00:19:920 (1) - this slider is abnormally ugly. please fix - Done - Now it is a curves
00:23:198 (6,7,8,9) - add one more note after - Done
00:28:444 (5,6,7,8) - ^ - Done
00:29:100 (1,2,1) - this underlapping is very confusing and not very good - moved some notes
00:40:903 (5) - make less scrunched up and ugly - Done - Now it is a quasi-circle
00:55:329 (1,2,3,4) - these are just uneccesary - Done - Substited with 4 jump disposed like a pentagon
01:23:526 (6) - make the end of the slider zero volume - Done

[normal]
00:47:133 (6) - this is uneven and may be confusing at which way to go at first for people who play normal - moved the start a little
01:01:887 (1,1,1,1) - remove extra combos - Done
01:12:051 (1,1,1,1) - ^ - Done
01:16:313 (1) - end this spinner in a less awkward place - Done

[easy]
00:13:362 (1) - add break after this note - done
00:41:559 (6) - easy is for noobs, and a noob probably wouldnt be able to see this note.- I don't know how to correct this ...
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
[general]
mp3@ 256 kbps, compres it to 128~192 - Done
unique audio lead-in in each diff - Done

[31]
yeah fine

[Nekoo's Insane]
0:04:838 (7) stack on ending of (5)
0:55:821 (4) up 1 grid
1:08:608 (2) right 1 grid

[hard]
0:23:526 (x) add one here - Done
0:28:772 (x) ^? - Done
0:34:018 (1,2,3,4) uneven spacing, so as (5,6,7,8) - Done
0:47:133 (4) right 1 grid - Done
1:28:772 (6) make this symmetrical? - Done

[Normal]
fine for me
ShanaTan
thekillerhjkhjk
the new combocolours make it better. starring now~
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
thank!
Jaltan
Starred! °O°
yongtw123
Hi hi~

Overall:
I'm sorry but I can't stand the skin... It's distracting.
And so is the Insane bg...
Simplicity is good.
I have to delete a large part of skin so that I can mod regularly...

OMG the offset is wayyyy off. Use 265 for start. Fix this before advancing to mods below.

[Easy]
Use x0.8 or x1.0 distance spacing. Right now it's so cramped.
It's best not to stack objects under the end of a slider in easy diff.

00:24:855 (3) - doesn't look good
00:26:494 (x) - add a note here?
00:26:822 (5) - end this slider either at previous white tick or the next one
01:13:379 (4) - make this look better

Fix the spacing and this diff is okay.

[Normal]
Some sliders aren't well-curved. Make them look better.

00:31:084 (5,7) - although spacing is correct, find another way to arrange them so that there's space between objects. Looks nicer that way.
00:33:707 (10) - just use finish hitsound?
00:52:724 - start kiai here instead? (if you fix this, fix it across all diffs)
01:02:068 (2,3) - make them linear
01:06:822 (2,3,4,5,1) - I'd find a way to make them look less cramped...
01:11:084 (3) - I don't really like how this slider is placed...
01:12:068 (1,2,3,4) - try follow the vocal? You can use sliders for example.

[Hard]
Please use a larger spacing... At least x0.8...
You can use a smaller spacing for streams though.
Since this is already a hard diff, you can follow the vocals more closely. Otherwise the rhythm is just awkward.

00:26:658 (1) - start this at the previous white tick?
01:12:724 (3,4) - follow the vocal

Fix the spacing and the rhythm.

[Inamaru CTB Insane]
Why two spaces between the words? [Inamaru CTB Insane]?
OMG, fix the offset first lol
After you fix the offset, go through entire diff to check for notes that are snapped incorrectly.
Can't mod CTB...

[31's Taiko]
Can't mod taiko too...

[Nekoo's Insane]
Circle Size larger by 1?
I don't really like using 1/32 holding sliders as part of the rhythm...
But basically it's alright I guess.


I'll recheck at a later time.
Maybe I'll star at that time.
Keep on the work~
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
Overall:
I'm sorry but I can't stand the skin... It's distracting.
And so is the Insane bg...
Simplicity is good.
I have to delete a large part of skin so that I can mod regularly...
i will insert the (No Custom Skin) version near the normal download.

OMG the offset is wayyyy off. Use 265 for start. Fix this before advancing to mods below.
feeling like i am juggling with the offset ...but i accept (listened and it is ok)

[Easy]
Use x0.8 or x1.0 distance spacing. Right now it's so cramped.
It's best not to stack objects under the end of a slider in easy diff.

00:24:855 (3) - doesn't look good
00:26:494 (x) - add a note here?
00:26:822 (5) - end this slider either at previous white tick or the next one
01:13:379 (4) - make this look better

Fix the spacing and this diff is okay.
did all

[Normal]
Some sliders aren't well-curved. Make them look better.

00:31:084 (5,7) - although spacing is correct, find another way to arrange them so that there's space between objects. Looks nicer that way. - rearranged
00:33:707 (10) - just use finish hitsound? - did
00:52:724 - start kiai here instead? (if you fix this, fix it across all diffs) - nothing changes and the start coincide with a sound
01:02:068 (2,3) - make them linear - did
01:06:822 (2,3,4,5,1) - I'd find a way to make them look less cramped... - changed the spacing
01:11:084 (3) - I don't really like how this slider is placed...- i did a little change...
01:12:068 (1,2,3,4) - try follow the vocal? You can use sliders for example.- nah... i like it as now
As for some slider ... i wanted them to look like this, sorry
[Hard]
Please use a larger spacing... At least x0.8...
You can use a smaller spacing for streams though.
Since this is already a hard diff, you follow the vocals more closely. Otherwise the rhythm is just awkward.

00:26:658 (1) - start this at the previous white tick? - did
01:12:724 (3,4) - follow the vocal - Improved it more than you said - i changed it and timed like Daka(1/2 double slider)-ra(hit)-I(hit)_ma(hit)_su(Slider)_gu(Slider)( - = 1/2, _=1

Fix the spacing and the rhythm.
1/4 streams leaved as they are
1/2 streams at 0.5x
1/1 streams and normal at 0.8x
and improved the last part


[Inamaru CTB Insane]
Why two spaces between the words? [Inamaru CTB Insane]?
OMG, fix the offset first lol
After you fix the offset, go through entire diff to check for notes that are snapped incorrectly.
Can't mod CTB...

[31's Taiko]
Can't mod taiko too...

[Nekoo's Insane]
Circle Size larger by 1?
I don't really like using 1/32 holding sliders as part of the rhythm...
But basically it's alright I guess.
changed the offset, for the circle size change on the Insane i should talk Nekoo
going thru then difficulty isn't needed when you change the Offset in the Timing window ( not the panel ) with "Move arleady selected note when chengin the Offset/BPM" actived
Card N'FoRcE
- General: (Considerations and things you need to check/fix for the whole map)
  • Il kiai dovrebbe iniziare a 00:52:724 :P
    Credo che la "arrow.png" nella storyboard debba essere specifica per difficoltà (cioè solo per la Normal)
    Alcuni comboburst sono leggermente crossi (cerca di racchiuderli in 500px di larghezza se riesci) inoltre il 3 penso vada specchiato
    Magari l'hit300.png fallo vuoto dentro come l'hit100.png
- Storyboard:
  • lyricspart12: sparisce troppo all'improvviso, fallo stare un po' di più e aggiungi un fade.
- Easy:
  • .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    Sarebbe meglio se evitassi cose come 00:39:281 (3,4) - 00:42:888 (3,4) - etc nella Easy, ma sinceramente mi smbrano leggibili lo stesso dato che non vanno a cozzare con cose simili.
    01:00:920 (1,2,3) - sinceramente trovo molto più intuitiva una cosa tipo (non badare allo spacing per ora, ma alla timeline):
    01:10:101 (1) - allungalo di 1/2
    01:10:101 (1,2,3) - anche qui, come in 01:00:920 (1,2,3):
    01:16:002 (1) - accorcialo di 1/1
    .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
    01:07:478 (2,3) - 3 più lontano please
    01:08:789 (3,4,1) - bilancia lo spacing qui
- Normal:
  • .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    00:31:740 (6) - 00:54:363 (5) - metterei la ripetizione rivolta verso il basso (cioè ruotata di 90° verso destra)
    00:47:150 (6) - sposta il punto finale un po' più in basso a destra
    01:02:560 (4) - 01:12:724 (4) - spostalo 1/2 prima (e correggi spacing)
    01:16:330 (1) - accorcialo di 1/1
    01:28:789 (1) - allunga di 1/2
- Hard:
  • .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
    01:07:150 (3,1,2,3) - lol, devo dire che è leggibile, ma non me lo aspettavo.
    .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    00:36:658 (8) - magari impilalo per bene sopra la fine dello slider che lo segue :P
    00:41:904 - se riesci, aggiungi un beat qui
    01:12:068 (1,2,3) - 01:22:887 (4,5,6,1) - equidistanzia, dai
    01:26:166 (5) - 01:28:789 (6) - accorcia di 1/2
- Nekoo's Insane:
  • .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    00:45:674 - i expected a beat here
- 31's Taiko:
  • .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
    Watched autoplay, seems ok.
- Inamaru's CTB:
  • .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    00:29:773 (5) - cancellalo?
    00:32:068 (7,8) - forse troppo improvviso, dai.
    01:21:412 - aggiungi un beat qui?

Good effort, just need some more improvements ;)
Star hoping this improves a little bit more.
First time i see/mod a CTB specific diff xD
ShanaTan
=O

I don't understand why people are so against smaller cirlces, srsly the diff isn't really jumpy at all and this is a insane diff afterall and the circle size is still on normal >.< Sorry not changing that =P

Download: Mami Kawada - No Buts! (HakuNoKaemi) [Nekoo's Insane].osu
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi

Card N'FoRcE wrote:

- General: (Considerations and things you need to check/fix for the whole map)
  • Il kiai dovrebbe iniziare a 00:52:724 :P
    Credo che la "arrow.png" nella storyboard debba essere specifica per difficoltà (cioè solo per la Normal)
    Alcuni comboburst sono leggermente crossi (cerca di racchiuderli in 500px di larghezza se riesci) inoltre il 3 penso vada specchiato
    Magari l'hit300.png fallo vuoto dentro come l'hit100.png
- Storyboard:
  • lyricspart12: sparisce troppo all'improvviso, fallo stare un po' di più e aggiungi un fade.
- Easy:
  • .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    Sarebbe meglio se evitassi cose come 00:39:281 (3,4) - 00:42:888 (3,4) - etc nella Easy, ma sinceramente mi smbrano leggibili lo stesso dato che non vanno a cozzare con cose simili.
    01:00:920 (1,2,3) - sinceramente trovo molto più intuitiva una cosa tipo (non badare allo spacing per ora, ma alla timeline):
    01:10:101 (1) - allungalo di 1/2
    01:10:101 (1,2,3) - anche qui, come in 01:00:920 (1,2,3):
    01:16:002 (1) - accorcialo di 1/1
    .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
    01:07:478 (2,3) - 3 più lontano please
    01:08:789 (3,4,1) - bilancia lo spacing qui
- Normal:
  • .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    00:31:740 (6) - 00:54:363 (5) - metterei la ripetizione rivolta verso il basso (cioè ruotata di 90° verso destra)
    00:47:150 (6) - sposta il punto finale un po' più in basso a destra
    01:02:560 (4) - 01:12:724 (4) - spostalo 1/2 prima (e correggi spacing)
    01:16:330 (1) - accorcialo di 1/1
    01:28:789 (1) - allunga di 1/2
- Hard:
  • .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
    01:07:150 (3,1,2,3) - lol, devo dire che è leggibile, ma non me lo aspettavo.
    .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    00:36:658 (8) - magari impilalo per bene sopra la fine dello slider che lo segue :P
    00:41:904 - se riesci, aggiungi un beat qui
    01:12:068 (1,2,3) - 01:22:887 (4,5,6,1) - equidistanzia, dai
    01:26:166 (5) - 01:28:789 (6) - accorcia di 1/2
- Nekoo's Insane:
  • .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    00:45:674 - i expected a beat here
- 31's Taiko:
  • .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
    Watched autoplay, seems ok.
- Inamaru's CTB:
  • .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    00:29:773 (5) - cancellalo?
    00:32:068 (7,8) - forse troppo improvviso, dai.
    01:21:412 - aggiungi un beat qui?

Good effort, just need some more improvements ;)
Star hoping this improves a little bit more.
First time i see/mod a CTB specific diff xD
fatto il tutto XD
KingKrishna
Totally optional
SPOILER
you can change the tick of the sliders to 2
it looks pretty good tho ^^ stared
sora234
Starred °-°
KenPulcy
Starred °ò°
Astom
Hi~

[General]
-Use same tags in all diff.
-Create a SB folder and put all the SB elements here (before of that you need fix the .osb path of the files with SB/nameIMG.jpg for example).
-Reduce audio volume please, is too loud.

[Skin]
-Resize:
  1. comboburst-0 to 500x767 or less
  2. comboburst-1 ---^
  3. comboburst-2 ---^
  4. comboburst-3 ---^
  5. comboburst-4 ---^
  6. comboburst-5 ---^
  7. comboburst-6 ---^
[SB]
-Cut unnecesary transparency in:
  1. LyricsPart10
  2. LyricsPart-1
  3. LyricsPart-2
  4. LyricsPart-3
  5. LyricsPart-4
  6. LyricsPart-5
  7. LyricsPart-6
  8. LyricsPart-7
  9. LyricsPart-8
  10. LyricsPart-9
  11. LyricsPart-11
  12. LyricsPart-12
  13. Arrow
Resize
  1. Bg to 1024x768
  2. BgCTB to 1024x768
[Easy]
-01:05:839 (1) - move that to another place.

[Normal]
-00:47:150 (6) - Improve the shape of this.
-01:07:478 (3) - move to another place, is rly hard of see when you are playing

Uhm... not bad, can be better I think, still here my star in support ^^
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
[Easy]
-01:05:839 (1) - move that to another place.
it is easy to see and not hard at all , therefore there is a little more than one second to see it...

i did some of the other mod
Lunah_old
Ciao haku

General

Prova a usare delle comboburst un pò più simili graficalmente, se vuoi te le cerco io al massimo D:
Secondo me l'hitcircleoverlay rovina un pò con quella specie di affare in mezzo
Tenendo premuto ALT in alto a destra puoi cambiare lo spacing, visto che in tutte è 0,8
Stai più attento quando fai gli slider alla precisione ..
Waypoint sono i quadratini grigi per fare la slider art in caso non lo sapessi xD visto che li citerò molto

Easy

00:24:855 (3) - Magari la slider art più precisa ? (inizio - fine) ~ http://puu.sh/xDy
00:26:822 (5) - Perchè così tanti Waypoint ? D: , prova a rifarlo con meno, oppure più metterli più precisi
00:33:707 (8) - Idem, lo trovo abbastanza impreciso
00:37:314 (2) - Hitsound Clap
00:37:642 (3) - Rimuovi l'Hitsound Finish
00:37:970 (4) - Allora qua togli il Clap e Metti l'Hitsound Finish
00:38:953 (2) - Hitsound Clap
00:39:281 (3) - Rimuovi l'Hitsound Finish e aggiungi il Clap
00:39:609 (4) - 1 Quadrato in su e aggiungi l'Hitsound Finish
00:41:248 (5) - Hitsound Clap
00:41:576 (6) - Rimuovi l'Hitsound Clap e metti il Finish
00:42:560 (2) - Aggiungi l'Hitsound Clap
00:42:888 (3) - Rimuovi l'Hitsound Finish
00:43:216 (4) - Aggiungi l'Hitsound Finish e alla fine dello slider (00:43:543) Rimuvoi il Clap
00:44:855 (2) - Aggiungi l'Hitsound Finish
00:45:183 (3) - Rimuovi l'Hitsound Finish
00:45:511 (4) - Questo slider finiscilo a 00:45:838
00:46:494 (5) - Aggiungi un Beat con new combo quì e rimuovi la new combo quìì 00:46:822 (1) -
00:52:068 (2,3,4) - Perchè Triplo Hitsound Finish quì? basta solo su 00:52:724 (3)
01:13:379 (4) - Aggiusta un pochino la precisione dello slider, per esempio il waypoint 6 alzalo di 1 quadrato, etc gli altri
01:13:379 (4) - Prova a fare finire lo slider a 01:15:674 per un maggiore ritmo, sennò semplicemente fallo finire in una riga bianca della timeline
01:23:543 (3) - Questo slider fallo così ~ http://puu.sh/xDZ


Normal

00:24:199 (2) - La parte iniziale dello slider sembra un pò alzata, abbassala un pò
00:25:510 (3) - Questo slider puoi benissimo farlo con solo 3 waypoint ~ Esempio : http://puu.sh/xE8
00:32:724 (8,9,10) - Prova a rifarlo così : http://puu.sh/xEh ~ http://puu.sh/xEi
00:38:298 (3) - Aggiungi l'Hitsound Finish
00:40:920 (1) - Aggiungi l'Hitsound Finish
00:41:576 (1) - Rimuovi l'Hitsound Finish
00:43:543 (4) - Rimuovi l'Hitsound Clap e aggiungi un Finish
00:43:216 (4) - Aggiungi l'Hitsound Clap
00:46:166 (4) - Fallo così : http://puu.sh/xEn
00:46:494 (4) - Rimuovi l'Hitsound Clap
00:52:724 (2) - Rimuovi l'Hitsound Clap e aggiungi un Finish
00:59:937 (1) - Tira un pò più su il 2° waypoint per farlo leggermente più preciso con l'altro : http://puu.sh/xEo
01:00:593 (2) - Idem : http://puu.sh/xEp
01:02:396 (4) - Questo è abbastanza brutto XD, fixalo così : http://puu.sh/xEr
01:06:822 (2,3,4,5,1) - Credo che questa parte sia confusionaria per una Normal
01:06:822 (2,3) - Troppo attaccati, Continua lo slider di 1 reverse e cancella il beat (3)
01:11:084 (3) - Perchè l'hai rifatto ? copi quello prima (01:10:101 (2)) e dopo fai Edit > Flip Horizontally
01:13:380 (1) - Rifallo ti prego XD
01:28:789 (1) - Finiscilo a 01:29:117

Hard

00:19:937 (1) - waa, fammelo più preciso questo slider
00:28:133 (4) - 2 Quadrati in sù e 1 a sinistra
00:29:773 (2) - Copia (00:29:117 (1)) incollalo e fai Edit > Flip Horizontally, così son precisi
00:33:707 (7) - Aggiungi l'Hitsound whistle
00:36:330 (7) - Aggiungi l'Hitsound whistle
00:36:986 (1) - Rifallo così : http://puu.sh/xEw
00:37:969 (4) - nya nya! spacing sbagliato, 1 Quadrato a sinistra
00:38:625 (7) - ^ 1 Quadrato a destra
00:38:953 (8,9) - ^ 1 Quadrato a destra anche loro
00:40:592 (4) - ^ 1 Quadrato in giù
00:40:920 (5) - Rifai la Slider art più precisa
00:42:232 (1) - Aggiungi l'Hitsound Finish
00:44:363 (2) - Spacing Sbagliato, 1 Quadrato a Sinistra
00:44:855 (3) - Aggiungi l'Hitsound Finish
00:47:478 (5) - ^
00:52:724 (1) - ^
00:55:674 (2,4) - Aggiungi l'Hitsound Clap
00:56:986 (7) - Rimuovi l'Hitsound Clap
00:57:642 (8) - Aggiungi l'Hitsound Clap
00:58:297 (2) - ^
00:58:953 (2) - ^
00:59:609 (3,5) - ^
01:00:920 (6) - ^
01:01:904 (3,4) - Aggiungi l'Hitsound Finish
01:03:215 (1) - ^
01:05:183 (5) - Il secondo Waypoint (1 quadrato a sinistra)
01:12:068 (1,2,3) - 1 Quadrato in giù
01:21:576 (6) - Rimuovi l'Hitsound whistle dalla fine dello slider
01:22:232 (3) - Spacing sbagliato, 1 Quadrato a sinistra
01:26:822 (5) - Rimuovi l'Hitsound whistle dalla fine dello slider


Inamaru CTB

00:08:789 (3,4) - Questo allargamento non mi piace molto D:
00:32:232 (8) - Lo vedo troppo difficile
01:20:920 (1) - Aggiungi l'Hitsound whistle
01:23:543 (1) - Aggiungi l'Hitsound whistle (Solo all'inizio dello sldier)
01:23:816 - Timing - Audio così : http://puu.sh/xEC


31's Taiko

I'm sorry but I don't know how mod Taiko's difficulties

Nekoo's Insane

00:08:625 (4) - 2 Grid up
00:23:871 (8) - Add a beat here ?
00:37:805 (3) - Make it precise with 00:37:969 (4) (Just delete and make it again, the game will autosnap it on slider precise)
01:04:691 (2) - 2 Grid up and 1 Grid right
01:04:855 (3) - 1 Grid left and 1 up
01:05:019 (4) - 2 Grid up
01:20:920 (11) - Add Hitsound whistle on Slider's Start
01:23:543 (11) - ^
01:23:953 - Add a Timing here with audio 0 Audio
01:26:166 (6) - Add Hitsound whistle on Slider's Start
01:28:789 (7) - ^


+Star

/me dies :o
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
grazie, Lunah-tan
(applicato il tutto)
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on giovedì 9 dicembre 2010 at 2.53.30

Artist: Mami Kawada
Title: No Buts!
Source: To Aru Majutsu No Index II
Tags: samiljul Nekoo[] I've Sound
BPM: 183
Filesize: 19622kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. 31's Taiko (4,88 stars, 372 notes)
  2. Easy (2,69 stars, 85 notes)
  3. Hard (4,66 stars, 167 notes)
  4. Inamaru CTB Insane (4,84 stars, 256 notes)
  5. Nekoo's Insane (5 stars, 291 notes)
  6. Normal (3,63 stars, 103 notes)
Download: Mami Kawada - No Buts!
Download: Mami Kawada - No Buts! (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
---------------

If someone want to create the insane or some difficulty of this song then please post or PM me, i'll surely accept!

After 2 fail, i want to retry, please correct my errors! Onegai!

Data:
Audio: Mp3 256 Kbps ( Mami Kawada - No buts!.mp3 )
Video: Flv - 480p h264 (higher saturation) ( ToAruMajutsuNoIndexII - [No Buts!].flv )
Difficulty: Hard , Normal , Easy + Taiko( by samiljul ) + Insane By Nekoo[] + CTB By Inamaru

Map Storylog ( Last 3 )
6/12/2010 - 16.43(GMT + 1) - wmfchris & thekillerhjkhjk mod + Custom Colours to all difficulty
8/12/2010 - 16.15(GMT + 1) - yongtw123 mod
9/12/2010 - 0.40(GMT + 1) - Card'n'Force mod

Thank
to:
Nekoo(for the Insane)
samiljul(for the 31's Taiko)
Inamaru(for the CtB)
all the people that helped me
all the people that starred me

FAQs
Why lyrics don't show?
you have downloaded this beatmap before 10/12/2010 ( DD/MM/YYYY ), just create a folder named "Lyrics" in "osu!/Songs/21218 Mami Kawada - No buts!" folder and move all "LyricsParts" onto it.
Why "Hard" difficulty don't show ?
you have downloaded this map before 5/12/2010 ( DD/MM/YYYY ), you can just download the "NoVideo" version
Why you trashed the "Expert" difficulty?
It was the only one choose i had ... you can find this difficulty in the "Trashed Difficulty" folder in "osu!/Songs/21218 Mami Kawada - No buts!"
Why "Without Skin" version is not upgraded ?
I just leaved it as it was--- and didn't remember to upgrade it.
Why you suck that much?,Why you are an idiot? or similiar
therefore .. why you just said me "you suck" or "you're an idiot" ?

Thank!
kanpakyin
Sorry for long delay
Here my mod:
------------------------------------
Blue=Suggestion only
ReD=I think you should fix this
*the major issue are in Bold

[Easy]
00:26:822(5)-IMO..This slider is too...ugly..Maybe you can make this more beautiful?
00:42:232(1~4)spacing
01:02:396(3.4)-Finish
01:08:461(x)-add a note here
01:13:379(4)-You should make this slider more beautiful IMO
01:18:953(x)-add a note here

[Normal]
00:36:986(1)-Finish
00:40:264(6)-left 1 grid first than down 1 grid
01:07:478(3)-1 grid right

[Hard]
00:21:904(2.3.4)hairlike spacing
00:23:215(6-10)It doesn't fit the music and sudden..
00:28:414(5-9)-^
00:38:297-(5.6.7)uneven spacing
01:08:133(3)-spacing..It was too sudden If you said that is a jump.
In this diff...The arrangement is too chaos

SKIP CTB DIFF(and i want to tell you CTB is unrankable..Use DJpop's map as a example)

[31's Taiko]
00:01:248(4)-change to d?
00:03:871(11)-^
00:37:969(109~114)-use kdd kdd?
00:40:592(123~128)-^
Good Job>_<

[Nekoo's Insane]
00:13:707(.)-Crazy stream.
Good diff .Good insane...Not anything want to say


+Star
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi

kanpakyin wrote:

Sorry for long delay
Here my mod:
------------------------------------
Blue=Suggestion only
ReD=I think you should fix this
*the major issue are in Bold

[Easy]
00:26:822(5)-IMO..This slider is too...ugly..Maybe you can make this more beautiful?
00:42:232(1~4)spacing
01:02:396(3.4)-Finish
01:08:461(x)-add a note here
01:13:379(4)-You should make this slider more beautiful IMO
01:18:953(x)-add a note here

Did all minus 01:13:379(4)

[Normal]
00:36:986(1)-Finish did this
00:40:264(6)-left 1 grid first than down 1 grid did this
01:07:478(3)-1 grid right it was worsier in that position...



[Hard]
00:21:904(2.3.4)hairlike spacing corrected
00:23:215(6-10)It doesn't fit the music and sudden.. it's not that sudden and it fit the music hi-hat ( there are 5 HiHat there )
00:28:414(5-9)-^ it's not that sudden and it fit the music hi-hat ( there are 5 HiHat there )
00:38:297-(5.6.7)uneven spacing
01:08:133(3)-spacing..It was too sudden If you said that is a jump. it's gradual( 0,9x,1x,1,2x ) and fit the music (therefore it isn't that sudden even for a Normal player...
In this diff...The arrangement is too chaos

SKIP CTB DIFF(and i want to tell you CTB is unrankable..Use DJpop's map as a example)

[31's Taiko]
00:01:248(4)-change to d?
00:03:871(11)-^
00:37:969(109~114)-use kdd kdd?
00:40:592(123~128)-^
Good Job>_<

[Nekoo's Insane]
00:13:707(.)-Crazy stream.
Good diff .Good insane...Not anything want to say


+Star
Inamaru
Fix.

kanpakyin wrote:

SKIP CTB DIFF(and i want to tell you CTB is unrankable..Use DJpop's map as a example)
<_< :!: :?:

Download: Mami Kawada - No Buts! (HakuNoKaemi) [Inamaru's CTB].osu
kanpakyin

kanpakyin wrote:

SKIP CTB DIFF(and i want to tell you CTB is unrankable..Use DJpop's map as a example)

Inamaru wrote:

<_< :!: :?:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/22672

You can have a look..
masadara
nice anche questa mappa XD
-kevincela-

kanpakyin wrote:

SKIP CTB DIFF(and i want to tell you CTB is unrankable..Use DJpop's map as a example)
Why CTB diff is not rankable?
If that would be unrankable,why this map(http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33236) is ranked?
ShanaTan

Lunah wrote:

Nekoo's Insane

00:08:625 (4) - 2 Grid up Fixed
00:23:871 (8) - Add a beat here ? Fixed
00:37:805 (3) - Make it precise with 00:37:969 (4) (Just delete and make it again, the game will autosnap it on slider precise) Fixed
01:04:691 (2) - 2 Grid up and 1 Grid right This pattern is intentional, not changing.
01:04:855 (3) - 1 Grid left and 1 up ^
01:05:019 (4) - 2 Grid up ^
01:20:920 (11) - Add Hitsound whistle on Slider's Start No
01:23:543 (11) - ^ No
01:23:953 - Add a Timing here with audio 0 Audio Last time I checked doing this sort of things isn't supposed to be encouraged and the melody ends there with the beat leaving no aftersound so I really see no points in silencing it.
01:26:166 (6) - Add Hitsound whistle on Slider's Start No
01:28:789 (7) - ^ No
Thanks ^^

kevincela wrote:

Why CTB diff is not rankable?
If that would be unrankable,why this map(http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33236) is ranked?
Oh trust me on this one, you don't want to get in a "but this map has it" arguement =P

Download: Mami Kawada - No Buts! (HakuNoKaemi) [Nekoo's Insane].osu
-kevincela-
LOL,i was only thinking why that map had a CTB difficulty and it has been ranked D:
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
that CtB is unrankable is only no sense... why?

We have CtB players right? Osu! standard map are somewhat strange most of time when played in CtB and CtB only map have a completely different style of mapping and then why CtB isn't rankable? That the icon isn't created at the moment is a nosense excuse, becuase ctb-only are separated even in the Difficulty column of the Beatmap Search ( example : http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmaplist&s=4&r=0 ... 4&g=0&la=0 )

then it make no sense to not permit those CtB player to play a good Ctb-Only map....

P.s. the "this map have it" argument is not accepted because if they accept it they should unrank at least the 40% of maps
Colin Hou
[General]:
  1. Unused files: /Lyrics/Thumbs.db
  2. Missing files: approachcircle.png you need this file for your custom hitcircle
  3. and the skin is not so enjoyable in testing, I can hardly see the approaching circle and the combo number cuz of so many colors x_x (and when the spinner spin, my PC lags OTL)
  4. plz resize these files: Bg.jpg BgCTB.jpg they cannot be wider than 1024.
  5. Taiko diff has a different preview point from others? o_o`|
  6. you enabled the countdown in CTB diff, but they do not work at all, disable it plz
[Hard]:
  1. 01:00:592 (6) - it may be ok, but with this skin, too hard to tell there's a reverse arrow actually
  2. 01:08:461 (1) - confusing shape, it's fine but i'd be great you change it to an 'easy to tell which direction the ball would go' slider
[Normal]:
  1. 00:25:510 (3,4,5) - spacing
  2. 01:08:461 (1) - it would be confusing in a normal diff :S
  3. tick rate 1 may be better?
[Easy]:
  1. ok
star~
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi

Colin Hou wrote:

[General]:
  1. Unused files: /Lyrics/Thumbs.db don't find it O.O
  2. Missing files: approachcircle.png you need this file for your custom hitcircle added...
  3. and the skin is not so enjoyable in testing, I can hardly see the approaching circle and the combo number cuz of so many colors x_x (and when the spinner spin, my PC lags OTL) idk ... i don't find any problem with my skin ( i added the slider follow circle too )
  4. plz resize these files: Bg.jpg BgCTB.jpg they cannot be wider than 1024. done
  5. Taiko diff has a different preview point from others? o_o`| did(at the end)
  6. you enabled the countdown in CTB diff, but they do not work at all, disable it plz done



[Hard]:
  1. 01:00:592 (6) - it may be ok, but with this skin, too hard to tell there's a reverse arrow actually it's not the skin fault... it's that i feel the (5) snapped on the reverse XD but if i receive other report.. i will change
  2. 01:08:461 (1) - confusing shape, it's fine but i'd be great you change it to an 'easy to tell which direction the ball would go' slider but not that hard too ( just see that the start is a little outer than the slider and that is not a linear curve)
[Normal]:
  1. 00:25:510 (3,4,5) - spacing Did
  2. 01:08:461 (1) - it would be confusing in a normal diff :S what is less confusing than a linear slider O.O
  3. tick rate 1 may be better?no... 1/2 tick is timed with the synth
[Easy]:
  1. ok
star~
using this approach circle, it look pretty good
Colin Hou
my point on Taiko preview time is 'ALL diffs' preview time should be the same if they are based on the same mp3 file' balabala. this is a error you should fix.

and my kudosu >///< if you forgot
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
my error >.<, didn't remembered that in the same song there is the same prewiev and it doesn't change with different diff... in the sense i didn't watched the .osu files
ziin
I think it's good form to put asian artists with surname first then personal name. Of course this means a resubmit. The other two ranked maps are Kawada Mami - No Buts! Speaking of the other two, having 3 beatmaps of the same is somewhat redundant. I know you were first, but perhaps you could switch over to the full version of the song? Most of your work would not be wasted if you copy and pasted over. It's very unlikely that you'll do this, but I hate duplicates.

I also think the audio is a little soft. Perhaps you can just steal the mp3 the others use?

I'll further mod as I play it.

Also, I was bored yesterday so I compressed your png images. For the novid folks, every little byte counts. Consider dropping the spinner background to a jpg, and resave all the jpgs as quality 85-95. Even at 95 quality, all 3 backgrounds fit into insane's background size at 100 quality. Doing all that drops you down from 7.8 MB to 6.2 MB in just images.
http://www.mediafire.com/?os5fi7f6s503mbk
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
no -.-
i won't map the full version
KanaRin is arleady doing a good work in creating the full version beatmap and then I want to say:
I was the first who did create the map and than, i don't know why, i feel that DJPop and jericho pack Easy/Normal are just boring

ah ... it's better to have the various skin image as now ( i updated the approachcircle and the sliderfollowcircle )
P.s. what program you used to compress the image?
Zio_Kratos
star
ziin

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

no -.-
i won't map the full version
KanaRin is arleady doing a good work in creating the full version beatmap and then I want to say:
I was the first who did create the map and than, i don't know why, i feel that DJPop and jericho pack Easy/Normal are just boring

ah ... it's better to have the various skin image as now ( i updated the approachcircle and the sliderfollowcircle )
P.s. what program you used to compress the image?
pngout (download page) or pngslim (direct download). Pngslim is a script using pngout and some other compressors. it really only saves 10% of the png file size. Most of the saving is in the jpg quality reduction.
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
compressed the png

the motif spinner is slow is the shader effect: it takes more shading than other spinners to be that awesome
Takuya
Rats
KanaRin
Star:>
Kuroneko-sHerald
Artist: A mio parere dovresti cambiarlo in Kawada Mami, così è uguale alle altre due mappe.
Title: Come già detto in chat il titolo dev'essere "No Buts! (TV Size)"

Togli questa frase "If someone want to create the insane or some difficulty of this song then please post or PM me, i'll surely accept!"

Audio: Mp3 192 Kbps ( Mami Kawada - No buts!.mp3 )

Skin
Ti consiglio di rimuovere il mirino dall'approachcircle. Come già detto può confondere.


[Easy]
La easy non mi piace :?
Prova a fare una cosa del genere
(N.B. Il mio è solo un suggerimento fatto secondo i miei gusti personali, che nel caso serve solo da base)
Download: Mami Kawada - No Buts! (HakuNoKaemi) [Easy (mod)].osu

[Hard]
Circle size -1? (cioè cerchi più grandi)

Nekoo's Insane
Sorry, I'm not so skilled to mod this :(
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi

Kuroneko-sHerald wrote:

Artist: A mio parere dovresti cambiarlo in Kawada Mami, così è uguale alle altre due mappe.
Title: Come già detto in chat il titolo dev'essere "No Buts! (TV Size)"

Togli questa frase "If someone want to create the insane or some difficulty of this song then please post or PM me, i'll surely accept!"

Audio: Mp3 192 Kbps ( Mami Kawada - No buts!.mp3 )

Skin
Ti consiglio di rimuovere il mirino dall'approachcircle. Come già detto può confondere.


[Easy]
La easy non mi piace :?
Prova a fare una cosa del genere
(N.B. Il mio è solo un suggerimento fatto secondo i miei gusti personali, che nel caso serve solo da base)
[attachment=0:3bd89]Mami Kawada - No Buts! (HakuNoKaemi) [Easy (mod)].osu[/attachment:3bd89]

[Hard]
Circle size -1? (cioè cerchi più grandi)

Nekoo's Insane
Sorry, I'm not so skilled to mod this :(
fatti ...
comunque lascio Mami Kawada visto che sento e vedo nominare più spesso così (in ordine Nome-Cognome)
per l'approach circle ho diminuito il mirino in modo che non si estenda al massimo quanto il cerchio della nota
Sallad4ever
Hai there~

[General]
- Be sure to delete the Trashed difficulty folder cause it's not used
- Delete Mami Kawada - No Buts! (HakuNoKaemi).osb as far as I see this is a duplicate but with different name, delete this file
- to make a smoother curve you don't have to used so many anchor points, see this viewtopic.php?f=56&t=37194 to make delicious slider

[Skin]
- the approach circle and hitcircle make it's harder to see the combo number, in easier diff is probably okay but in Nekoo's insane it's not, so I suggest to use normal approach circle instead and if you can, make a different hitcircle
- nice cursor

[SB]
- max size of SB element is 800x600, resize all of you lyric SB so it won't go over the limit

[Easy]
01:09:445 (3) - make it like this


[Normal]
00:22:560 (4) - can you make this more smooth? you can reduce the anchor point to do that
00:47:150 (6) - the start and the end is already separated so there's no need for the arrow, beside the SB will be messed up in HR (Hard Rock)
00:59:281 (5) - (nazi) move the end's anchor point 1 grid left (lvl 3 grid)
01:10:101 (2,3) - I usually not recommend an anti jump, but I can read this perfectly so I'll leave it to the next modder

[Hard]
00:29:773 (1,1) - remove NC (new combo) from these notes
01:00:264 (5,6) - yup the score burst covered the reverse arrow, better move it

Mapping an already ranked song is very hard (especially if they're made by famous mapper) so Good Luck
star~
James2250
Not here to mod yet but just saying this map won't get ranked with ctb difficulty (no I don't agree with the rule and in the end it doesn't matter, peppy said it)

I saw conversation earlier on map and yes it is unfair to ctb players, unless you can get peppy to allow it (you won't be able to) that's just how it is

There happened to be 1 map ranked that was a mistake with a ctb difficulty included, BAT's won't allow it again

Put it with your song comments as an attachment for now
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi

Sallad4ever wrote:

Hai there~

[General]
- Be sure to delete the Trashed difficulty folder cause it's not used
- Delete Mami Kawada - No Buts! (HakuNoKaemi).osb as far as I see this is a duplicate but with different name, delete this file
- to make a smoother curve you don't have to used so many anchor points, see this viewtopic.php?f=56&t=37194 to make delicious slider

[Skin]
- the approach circle and hitcircle make it's harder to see the combo number, in easier diff is probably okay but in Nekoo's insane it's not, so I suggest to use normal approach circle instead and if you can, make a different hitcircle
- nice cursor

[SB]
- max size of SB element is 800x600, resize all of you lyric SB so it won't go over the limit

[Easy]
01:09:445 (3) - make it like this
[attachment=0:1b689]screenshot234.png[/attachment:1b689]

[Normal]
00:22:560 (4) - can you make this more smooth? you can reduce the anchor point to do that
00:47:150 (6) - the start and the end is already separated so there's no need for the arrow, beside the SB will be messed up in HR (Hard Rock)
00:59:281 (5) - (nazi) move the end's anchor point 1 grid left (lvl 3 grid)
01:10:101 (2,3) - I usually not recommend an anti jump, but I can read this perfectly so I'll leave it to the next modder

[Hard]
00:29:773 (1,1) - remove NC (new combo) from these notes
01:00:264 (5,6) - yup the score burst covered the reverse arrow, better move it

Mapping an already ranked song is very hard (especially if they're made by famous mapper) so Good Luck
star~
did all ~
I started mapping this map first, so the problem is that i don't got it ranked first.. actually

James2250 wrote:

Not here to mod yet but just saying this map won't get ranked with ctb difficulty (no I don't agree with the rule and in the end it doesn't matter, peppy said it)

I saw conversation earlier on map and yes it is unfair to ctb players, unless you can get peppy to allow it (you won't be able to) that's just how it is

There happened to be 1 map ranked that was a mistake with a ctb difficulty included, BAT's won't allow it again

Put it with your song comments as an attachment for now
.-. wanted to insert it in the comment but the author said that he doesn't want me to insert it.
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
just to bump without submitting -.-
Anto
;)
Armin
Bolla Bolla

Abbastanza fragile, alcuni mats/bats potrebbero romperti ulteriormente le scatole per quanto riguarda la skin (il colore del bg durante lo spin si confonde con le combo), e alcuni pattern (soprattutto nella Easy, che non è proprio facile, e nella Hard); ad ogni modo tutto rispetta le guidelines °a°
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
Armin, grazie per la Bolla e per l'IRC Modding!
Derekku
[Skin]
*BgCTB.jpg isn't being used anymore, so delete it.
*Bg.jpg is far from a nice 4:3 ratio (such as 1024x768 or 800x600). The black letterboxing at the top and the bottom make it look really strange, so I suggest cropping it or finding a better background.
*comboburst-2.png needs to be horizontally flipped. The right side is cut off.
*The extra shadows around count3.png's feet could have been cropped a bit better (since they're noticeable).
*It's usually preferred to grayscale the hitcircle and the overlay, but I guess it's not a big deal...
*hitcircleoverlay.png is slightly chopped off at the top, but again, not a big deal.
*ready.png is definitely too big. The extra shadows around it look a bit strange and I'm afraid that it might cause some lag. Could you please crop out all of the unnecessary transparency from it?
*You're missing a spinner-approachcircle. Even if it's the default one, add it to complete the spinner set.
*I was concerned about the spinner-circle not having a visible center, but it looks like her hand is actually centered and works quite well as a reference point. owo

[Storyboard]
*There is NO reason for your lyrics to be >900px wide. Cropping them to 800px or below would be preferred, but 640px width would be much better (and more optimized).
*You could also crop out the unneeded transparency from the sides of lyrics-8/11/12, but it won't be a problem if you don't (especially after you crop all of the lyrics down to a smaller width).
*Lyrics 12 (no buts) could be centered a bit better. It's noticeably too far to the left.

[General]
*"I've" won't work as a tag since apostrophes break search, so use "ive" instead.
*There's no point in having an audio lead-in on Easy/Normal/Hard since they don't start right at the beginning, so remove the lead-in please.
*Source is capitalized/spaced wrong. It should be "Toaru Majutsu no Index II" It looks like the two ranked maps have "To Aru", but wiki/other sites have it as "Toaru". Hmm... well, at least uncapitalize the "No".
*The other two ranked maps also have the artist in the Japanese form: Kawada Mami. I suggest changing it by following these instructions to make sure you don't upload a duplicate map.
*Offset could use a +5.

[Easy]
00:13:385 (1) - Perhaps add a break after this like in Normal?
00:33:713 (8) - Expected this to end a white tick earlier. (also: same break suggestion)
01:02:402 (2,3) - I recommend making these a slider since they're offbeats
01:12:238 (1,2,3) - I advise against doing a pattern like this in an Easy diff since the level may be confusing.
01:16:008 (1) - Perhaps move this to the next red tick and shorten? http://puu.sh/Hqb
*Overall, this is a bit too fast-paced for my liking (plus you're a bit close to a 3 star rating), but I suppose it's okay.

[Normal]
*Perhaps lower Overall Difficulty by one tick?
00:46:828 (5,6) - The overlap makes 6 look more confusing than it is. http://puu.sh/Hq9 Could you move 4/5/6 around so that 5 isn't on top of 6?
01:10:107 (2,3) - not stacked properly
01:16:336 (1) - Sounds strange. Why not end it on the previous red tick like in Easy?
01:28:795 (1) - Perhaps center this and change the combo to a different color? (The blue blends in with the spinner/background, but can be changed by selecting the slider and hitting the arrow on the new combo icon: http://puu.sh/Hqi)

[Hard]
*Perhaps lower Overall Difficulty by one tick?
00:16:008 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - How about spacing these all out more? Right now it's a big cluster and a bit confusing (and doesn't match the rest of the map).
00:46:172 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try spreading these out a little bit more so that (5) isn't hidden so much. Also, you could new combo 5 to make it even more visible.
00:52:730 - Keep kiai consistent with your other difficulties by starting it here. It seems strange being on the spinner anyway.
01:16:336 (1) - Not sure why you made this so long. It'd look much better ending at 01:18:139 with a clap like in your other diffs.
01:23:549 (6) - I love that you silenced this.

[31's Taiko]
01:23:877 - Perhaps end kiai here instead?

[Nekoo's Insane]
00:28:467 (7) - How about removing two repeats from this? The last repeating slider like this had 1/2 a beat until the next note, while this one only has 1/4th (which is a bit too short, imo)
01:01:582 (1,2,3,4) - This broke my sightreading. Perhaps unstack 1/2?
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi

Derekku wrote:

[Skin]
*BgCTB.jpg isn't being used anymore, so delete it.
*Bg.jpg is far from a nice 4:3 ratio (such as 1024x768 or 800x600). The black letterboxing at the top and the bottom make it look really strange, so I suggest cropping it or finding a better background.
*comboburst-2.png needs to be horizontally flipped. The right side is cut off.
*The extra shadows around count3.png's feet could have been cropped a bit better (since they're noticeable).
*It's usually preferred to grayscale the hitcircle and the overlay, but I guess it's not a big deal...
*hitcircleoverlay.png is slightly chopped off at the top, but again, not a big deal.
*ready.png is definitely too big. The extra shadows around it look a bit strange and I'm afraid that it might cause some lag. Could you please crop out all of the unnecessary transparency from it?
*You're missing a spinner-approachcircle. Even if it's the default one, add it to complete the spinner set.

*I was concerned about the spinner-circle not having a visible center, but it looks like her hand is actually centered and works quite well as a reference point. owo

[Storyboard]
*There is NO reason for your lyrics to be >900px wide. Cropping them to 800px or below would be preferred, but 640px width would be much better (and more optimized).
*You could also crop out the unneeded transparency from the sides of lyrics-8/11/12, but it won't be a problem if you don't (especially after you crop all of the lyrics down to a smaller width).
*Lyrics 12 (no buts) could be centered a bit better. It's noticeably too far to the left.


[General]
*"I've" won't work as a tag since apostrophes break search, so use "ive" instead. The 1st Time it permit to use "I've" to search.. (in the sense that if you write it in the text box before pressing search, it work), after the first search it automatically trasnsform it to ive.. and the you need to rewrite it .. Therefore i will just add "Ive"
*There's no point in having an audio lead-in on Easy/Normal/Hard since they don't start right at the beginning, so remove the lead-in please. - i inserted it because someone said i should've insert it.. but i will leave it -.-
*Source is capitalized/spaced wrong. It should be "To[b]aru Majutsu no Index II" It looks like the two ranked maps have "To Aru", but wiki/other sites have it as "Toaru". Hmm... well, at least uncapitalize the "No".[/b] Modified in "To aru Majutsu no Index" and added "Toaru" in the tags
*The other two ranked maps also have the artist in the Japanese form: Kawada Mami. I suggest changing it by following these instructions to make sure you don't upload a duplicate map. I'm using "Mami Kawada" because it is her commercial name, not because it is her real name too, then i'll leave it in this form.
*Offset could use a +5. using 274 (+3)

[Easy]
00:13:385 (1) - Perhaps add a break after this like in Normal?
00:33:713 (8) - Expected this to end a white tick earlier. (also: same break suggestion) - it just follow the synth ....
01:02:402 (2,3) - I recommend making these a slider since they're offbeats - it feel better as now
01:12:238 (1,2,3) - I advise against doing a pattern like this in an Easy diff since the level may be confusing. - graohically good, and it's not an hard pattern... even for Easy player - just the nearer hit... and the slider it's not too much fast
01:16:008 (1) - Perhaps move this to the next red tick and shorten? http://puu.sh/Hqb - it follow the "No Buts!" voice
*Overall, this is a bit too fast-paced for my liking (plus you're a bit close to a 3 star rating), but I suppose it's okay. star rating system it's not that precise.

[Normal]
*Perhaps lower Overall Difficulty by one tick?
00:46:828 (5,6) - The overlap makes 6 look more confusing than it is. http://puu.sh/Hq9 Could you move 4/5/6 around so that 5 isn't on top of 6?
01:10:107 (2,3) - not stacked properly i don't know why it don't auto stack...
01:16:336 (1) - Sounds strange. Why not end it on the previous red tick like in Easy?
01:28:795 (1) - Perhaps center this and change the combo to a different color? (The blue blends in with the spinner/background, but can be changed by selecting the slider and hitting the arrow on the new combo icon: http://puu.sh/Hqi)

[Hard]
*Perhaps lower Overall Difficulty by one tick?
00:16:008 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - How about spacing these all out more? Right now it's a big cluster and a bit confusing (and doesn't match the rest of the map). similiar placement is repeated sometimes ( the 3 Hit circles at 1/2 distance )
00:46:172 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try spreading these out a little bit more so that (5) isn't hidden so much. Also, you could new combo 5 to make it even more visible.
00:52:730 - Keep kiai consistent with your other difficulties by starting it here. It seems strange being on the spinner anyway.
01:16:336 (1) - Not sure why you made this so long. It'd look much better ending at 01:18:139 with a clap like in your other diffs.
01:23:549 (6) - I love that you silenced this. Ah... thank

[31's Taiko]
01:23:877 - Perhaps end kiai here instead? Did

[Nekoo's Insane]
00:28:467 (7) - How about removing two repeats from this? The last repeating slider like this had 1/2 a beat until the next note, while this one only has 1/4th (which is a bit too short, imo)
01:01:582 (1,2,3,4) - This broke my sightreading. Perhaps unstack 1/2?
Did, the author of the guest said that i can do the change i feel i should do
ziin

Derekku wrote:

*Source is capitalized/spaced wrong. It should be "Toaru Majutsu no Index II" It looks like the two ranked maps have "To Aru", but wiki/other sites have it as "Toaru". Hmm... well, at least uncapitalize the "No".
*The other two ranked maps also have the artist in the Japanese form: Kawada Mami. I suggest changing it by following these instructions to make sure you don't upload a duplicate map.
There's ambiguity in Toaru vs To Aru. Technically Toaru is correct, you can see other songs with such, however To Aru is more common, and it's a pretty minor detail. sticking "toaru" and "to aru" in the tag (depending on the source) is certainly worthwhile, and should be mandatory in all raildex maps. Since osu! has both ranked, it doesn't matter.

If I'm not mistaken, "no" or "の" is like "of", which is rarely capitalized in English titles.

Kawada Mami vs Mami Kawada is a bit more troublesome, but likewise osu! has both ranked. Everything in Japanese to English is reversed anyway, so why not just leave it Mami Kawada? I personally use the convention SURNAME Personal Name when tagging stuff, but just Surname Personal Name on osu!. If there's ever going to be any progress, some admin is going to have to make a rule.
Derekku

ziin wrote:

Technically Toaru is correct, you can see other songs with such, however To Aru is more common, and it's a pretty minor detail.
Ah, I thought it might be something like that. Thanks for clarifying.

ziin wrote:

I personally use the convention SURNAME Personal Name when tagging stuff, but just Surname Personal Name on osu!. If there's ever going to be any progress, some admin is going to have to make a rule.
IIRC, Artists/Titles/etc will be changeable once osz2 rolls around, so some consistency and guidelines should hopefully come after that.

@Haku: Wasn't able to remod this yesterday, but I'll get to it within a few hours.
ziin

Derekku wrote:

Ah, I thought it might be something like that. Thanks for clarifying.
Ah, here's the explanation in the masterpiece thread. You'll note they changed it in that map, but not in the other one.

Derekku wrote:

IIRC, Artists/Titles/etc will be changeable once osz2 rolls around, so some consistency and guidelines should hopefully come after that.
sweet. All songs properly tagged, named and cited would make things a little more simple in finding what you want.

Now for my mod.
Everything is a suggestion. I didn't have strong feelings one way or the other, except on the skin, though with the skin it's a strong suggestion.

[skin]
approachcircle.png - not symmetrical, IMO too thin. give it a 2.5-3px white outline and 1px black outline.
bg.jpg - widescreen is fine. I'm a bit disappointed osu doesn't stretch it regardless of screen resolution though.
combobursts.png - each one needs to be looked at on a black background, and the edges need to be better feathered.
count1.png - redo it with index's body fading out under the circle, I can see the line.
count2.png - the worst. fix the feathered edge.
count3.png - feathered edge, the drop shadow doesn't exist on the rest of them
go.png - IDK how you made them, but the circles really need more AA. Look at the jaggies.
hit.png - AA, look at jaggies. They also should probably use the same base circle prior to coloring them. "k" and "g" versions need to make sure the image doesn't bleed through the outside of the circle. None of them are properly centered.
hitcircle.png - simple pictures make better hitcircles. There's some parts in the song where the BG is blue, the hitcircle is shaded blue, and the circle sort of mixes in with the business of the video.
hitcircleoverlay.png - you need to make sure you give the top and sides some alpha as well. Right now they look flat (they are), which means you have a circle with 4 sides and 4 curved parts.

[general]
remove all breaks which don't give you a passing rating (circle or X). They're all so short it doesn't matter.
there's a lot of nazi spacing/symmetry opportunites that you can catch which I won't do (yet).

[easy]
you might have trouble calling this easy at 2.88 stars.
00:47:487 (3) start the slider here on 4.
00:54:700 (5) looks bad
01:01:749 (1) make this a repeating slider the beat before.
01:12:241 (1) and here
01:20:929 (3) this and all notes like it at the end should be 1.25 beats unless you fill the gaps with notes, so it follows the beat.

[normal]
00:38:962 (4) start the slider here and follow the beat? same on any other notes which have that big background beat.

[hard]
00:23:224 (6-10) just make it a faster time slider if you want something hard. triplets don't fit this song at all.
00:28:470 (5-9) ^

[insane]
good enough.

I don't like the beatmaps. Insane is too hard for me to really enjoy, and easy/normal/hard are too slow, so I can't give you a star at least until you fix the skin. I can't pass insane unless I delete the approachcircle/hitcircle.
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi

ziin wrote:

Derekku wrote:

Ah, I thought it might be something like that. Thanks for clarifying.
Ah, here's the explanation in the masterpiece thread. You'll note they changed it in that map, but not in the url=http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12483]other one[/url].

Derekku wrote:

IIRC, Artists/Titles/etc will be changeable once osz2 rolls around, so some consistency and guidelines should hopefully come after that.
sweet. All songs properly tagged, named and cited would make things a little more simple in finding what you want.

Now for my mod.
Everything is a suggestion. I didn't have strong feelings one way or the other, except on the skin, though with the skin it's a strong suggestion.

[skin]
approachcircle.png - not symmetrical, IMO too thin. give it a 2.5-3px white outline and 1px black outline.
bg.jpg - widescreen is fine. I'm a bit disappointed osu doesn't stretch it regardless of screen resolution though. i changed the background, just redownload ^.^
combobursts.png - each one needs to be looked at on a black background, and the edges need to be better feathered.
count1.png - redo it with index's body fading out under the circle, I can see the line.
count2.png - the worst. fix the feathered edge.
count3.png - feathered edge, the drop shadow doesn't exist on the rest of them..
go.png - IDK how you made them, but the circles really need more AA. Look at the jaggies.
Should Recreate them.
hit.png - AA, look at jaggies. They also should probably use the same base circle prior to coloring them. "k" and "g" versions need to make sure the image doesn't bleed through the outside of the circle. None of them are properly centered. I intentionally didn't centered them
hitcircle.png - simple pictures make better hitcircles. There's some parts in the song where the BG is blue, the hitcircle is shaded blue, and the circle sort of mixes in with the business of the video. Should change the combocolour?
hitcircleoverlay.png - you need to make sure you give the top and sides some alpha as well. Right now they look flat (they are), which means you have a circle with 4 sides and 4 curved parts. Intentional

[general]
remove all breaks which don't give you a passing rating (circle or X). They're all so short it doesn't matter. just added them because of Derekku -.-
there's a lot of nazi spacing/symmetry opportunites that you can catch which I won't do (yet).

[easy]
you might have trouble calling this easy at 2.88 stars.
00:47:487 (3) start the slider here on 4.
00:54:700 (5) looks bad

01:01:749 (1) make this a repeating slider the beat before.
01:12:241 (1) and here
01:20:929 (3) this and all notes like it at the end should be 1.25 beats unless you fill the gaps with notes, so it follows the beat. for easy is good as now
[normal]
00:38:962 (4) start the slider here and follow the beat? same on any other notes which have that big background beat.
it don't follow the beats before and after, therefore it's a bit confusive

[hard]
00:23:224 (6-10) just make it a faster time slider if you want something hard. triplets don't fit this song at all.
00:28:470 (5-9) ^
it fit as now...

[insane]
good enough.

I don't like the beatmaps. Insane is too hard for me to really enjoy, and easy/normal/hard are too slow, so I can't give you a star at least until you fix the skin. I can't pass insane unless I delete the approachcircle/hitcircle. it just mean i suck at mapping q.q
ziin

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

it just mean i suck at mapping q.q
You're very good for your current level of play. You're in a unique situation, because as you get better at playing, easier maps become harder (tedious really) due to the lack of a steady beat and low approach rate. Your current rank isn't very high (~#23000), so you have a better gauge on easy/normal maps than I do. There are many different types of mapping, yours just doesn't suit my tastes. If you like your beatmaps better than the other two versions, that's probably because they were designed by an easy/normal/hard player rather than an hard/insane player.
Derekku
I see changes to the difficulties, but not to the folder elements. If you DID change things inside the folder, then you need to do a full submission. Let me know when you're done so I can recheck this again.
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi

Derekku wrote:

I see changes to the difficulties, but not to the folder elements. If you DID change things inside the folder, then you need to do a full submission. Let me know when you're done so I can recheck this again.
i did full submit... but don't know why files hadn't upgraded O.O
wait till i finish recreating the count
Topic Starter
HakuNoKaemi
i did recreate the countdown.. and full submitted
Derekku
Looking much better than last time!

[General]
*The approach-circle is noticeably cut off on the sides: http://puu.sh/KcP
*And so is the hitcircle-overlay: http://puu.sh/KcQ You've done some cute skinning, but I would hate to see it go to waste if things look slightly sloppy.
*ready/go could be centered better.
*Lyric5 feels like it comes in a bit late.
*Then Lyric6 comes in a bit early.
*7 is a little late.
*12 is suuuuper late. What happened to the nice effect you had before? oxo
*I wish the video didn't end so early... it fades out before the map ends (which looks kinda awkward).
*I don't think that comboburst-6 fits with the rest of the combobursts. It's much shorter and really bright.
*Preview point feels a bit early. Maybe try 52405?
*After play-testing a bit, the spinner-circle does feel like it could use a nice center. Could you add something similar to the default center? http://puu.sh/Kdr
*Shouldn't "aru" in the source be capitalized?

[Easy]
00:46:339 (1,2) - Doesn't sound quite right, and I don't like that (1) is an offbeat by itself. How about making a slider like this: http://puu.sh/Ked
01:02:733 (3,1) - spacing? owo
*Again, a bit too fast-paced for an Easy. The ending of the song, however (after "no buts"), feels more like an Easy. How about I try giving some suggestions like...
*Try getting rid of a few of the notes in the beginning like this: http://puu.sh/Kei The repeating sliders are especially a bit too difficult for an Easy, and most of this diff feels like a Normal because of elements like that.
*00:21:585 - Could be something like http://puu.sh/Kej
00:26:503 (4) - try removing this; you don't need every single beat filled on an Easy; leave that for Normal.
00:27:814 (2) - remove the repeat
00:29:454 (2) - ^ (after making just these FEW changes, the star difficulty is already down 0.2 stars)
00:32:077 (5) - delete and move (6) here like this: http://puu.sh/Keo
00:36:995 (1,2,3,4) - A repeating slider http://puu.sh/Keq would be much easier AND sound much better!
00:39:290 (3) - remove (and maybe make 1/2 a slider)
00:39:618 (3) - this works as an alternative to 36:995
00:40:929 (4) - remove and put a note or slider at 00:41:257
00:42:241 (1,2,3,4) - same suggestion as 36:995
00:44:536 (1) - remove
00:44:864 (1,2,3) - could be a slider, but after having three sliders above, it should be okay
00:51:421 - expected a note here; how about a nicely shaped slider? http://puu.sh/KeB
00:52:733 - something like this: http://puu.sh/KeE
*And I'll stop there. That already got me down to 2.3 stars, and I'm sure you can make the rest of the difficulty lovely and probably make it end up being roughly 2 stars. Good luck!

[Normal]
*Looks fine, but I still suggest lowering the Overal Difficulty one tick. Right now it's nearly the same as Hard's, and is a big jump from Easy.

[Hard]
01:24:208 - Place a silent/soft inherited section here to silence the end completely.
01:23:552 (6) - How about making this a new combo to get rid of any ambiguity (as to which one is the slider)? http://puu.sh/KdN

[31's Taiko]
01:29:290 - End kiai here.

[Nekoo's Insane]
01:01:585 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing? It almost looked like 1 was part of the stream.

My main summary is the difficulty of Easy. Let me know (again) when you've made changes so I can recheck (hopefully for a bubble)!
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