1. 00:05:170 - If you're going to make this note a kat, along with a lot of congruent patterns after this timestamp, make 00:02:630 a kat as well.
2. 00:15:329 - I'd finish out the pattern here with a don that leads to the finisher.
3. 00:22:630 - No sound, this note could be removed.
4. 00:55:646 - There's no sound that occurs on this note, so there's no need for it.

1. Plz add my Kantan http://pastebin.com/hzDC2X8D
2. I mapped the other version I swear http://osump.net/mapsets/58053770be4f4aaf31f1ab48?b=58053770be4f4aaf31f1ab47

1. 00:08:821 - / 00:27:869 (24,25) - add a k because you're following the clap every 2nd and 4th beat but you missed one here ;-; Also, this would complete the "hit three!" pattern in the game
   00:18:980 (5,6) - I think kD d would be better than kK k here because it's would help differentiate it from the surrounding kats
2. 00:19:932 - add a finisher here because it's the same sound as the previous
3. 00:25:964 (19,20,21,22,23,24) - / 00:58:980 (20,21,22,23,24,25) - consider inverting this to kkd kkd, this will help maintain the consistency of using k on every 2nd and 4th and it will help differentiate the pitch of 00:25:329 (18,19) - these and 00:27:869 (24,25) - these
4. 00:44:376 (9,10) - don't map this as two kats, it leaves too much monochrome in this area, I recommend you make it consistent with you pattern back 00:11:361 (10,11) - here
5. 01:12:313 (2,3) - switch to dK or kD because those are easier patterns for Futsuu, preferably dK to be consistent with 01:22:789 (25) - this

1. 00:11:361 (19) - switch to k to keep the 2nd and 4ths consistent
2. 00:14:853 (32) - switch to d because the pitch is falling
3. 00:17:392 (42) - switch to k because the pitch is rising
4. your kiai looks good ^^

1. 00:11:202 (23,24) - / 00:21:361 (70,71) - ctrl+g so that the 4th 00:11:361 - here can be a k and so that 00:11:361 (24,25) - these two can be the same
2. 00:17:075 (49) - k basically same reason as above
3. 00:32:789 (122,123) - / 00:35:329 (134,135) - differentiate these, they very in pitch, either kd or dk
   same suggestions in the same parts uwu

poots_mcgoots wrote:

General:
Add Kiai 00:30:726 - to 00:38:345 - and 01:03:742 - to 01:21:519 - sure
Futsuu:
No specific issues.

Muzukashii:
00:25:646 - Why the spam of 1/1 notes? Why not do ddkdk there and here 00:26:916 - ? done
00:58:662 - and 00:59:932 - ^^
01:13:900 (4,5,6,14,15,16) - These are different from 00:30:726 (94,95,96,102,103,104) - when the parts are the same? fixed

That's all I could find. Good luck with rank!

Taikocracy wrote:

NM from my queue

[Oni]

1. 00:05:170 - If you're going to make this note a kat, along with a lot of congruent patterns after this timestamp, make 00:02:630 a kat as well.
2. 00:15:329 - I'd finish out the pattern here with a don that leads to the finisher.
3. 00:22:630 - No sound, this note could be removed.
4. 00:55:646 - There's no sound that occurs on this note, so there's no need for it.

I had more things written but I forgot there has to be good spread with the Inner Oni so, ye.

Fun, neat song, gl w/ rank~

Stefan wrote:

aaaaaaaaaaaa w

[Inner Oni]
00:36:757 (216) - I'd wished you used kDkD than kKkD, sounds imo better and seems more consistent, sound-wise.
01:09:773 (415) - ~
01:19:932 (474) - w

@Weber: Update her difficulty. 🤔

[Oni]
00:25:170 - You could add a note here. Why? Since you followed the rhythm of 1/2 sounds like in 00:25:805 (92) - or 00:27:075 (98) - it'd makes sense to go with a don note here too. It feels pretty odd to stop here suddenly. After that, you could also change 00:25:011 (88) - to a Kat note, since it's still a lighter sound than 00:25:170 - for example.
00:58:026 (88) - and 00:58:186 - ~ done

00:31:202 - I think you want to avoid too long pattern? At least it felt like that while playing - this isn't bad at all, it's actually something for once to see a more natural Oni Difficulty. However, I believe the flow is better if you add a Don note on 00:31:202 - . the short kdk is pretty weird. done except made them all kats to make it less back-and-forth between k and d
00:33:742 - ~
01:04:218 - ~
01:06:757 - ~
01:14:376 - ~
01:16:916 - ~

00:32:154 - Also here you may want to add a Don note, the big drum sound can be followed by this way very nicely.
01:05:170 - ~
01:15:329 - ~
00:34:694 - For this case, you may leave out the Don note (just like it is right now) since the big drum sound is missing (or actually being less present) at this time. all applied

[Muzukashii]
00:16:916 (40) - I would suggest removing this note, you left out 00:11:837 - at this place so this would be pretty nice to stay consistent that way.
00:49:932 (40) - ~ done
00:38:662 (117,118) - Personal suggestion: You could remove these two notes so you split anything after 00:39:138 - from the part before 00:38:345 - . Generally it would be nice to have a little break before starting the second loop. i dont think any alternative really fits here
01:11:678 (4) - instead of removing both notes, just remove (4) here. That rather fits. same as ^, the doubles are kinda necessary to not sound awkward imo
01:11:836 (5,6) - you have two notes here, dude.

[Futsuu]
00:00:250 - 00:05:329 - https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/wHsWJa2J.png I think these patterns works better since Muzukashii works with 1/2, while the single 1/2 don note on 00:01:043 - is quite weak compared to these pattern. I am unsure if you want to stick with Futsuu as the lowest difficulty, if so I'd recommend easier pattern - like the example I just give.
00:05:329 - 00:10:408 - https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/riitfCBF.png for here it can be slightly harder compared to now, the ddk fits well to introduce some 1/2 (while I can tell you that ddk is naturally easier to follow than a standalone 1/2 note, trust me), although it looks long the combo should be fine due the many kat notes. The marked notes are big kats (basically what they're already)
00:10:408 - 00:15:488 - https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/OAjROtxv.png Something that you ALWAYS should prefer are single-colour "Doublets" in Futsuu Difficulties, they are by far easier than dk or kd. I've changed that part a bit in the density which makes the flow more consistent. Skipping beats makes no sense if the flow suffers through it. the k d k d contributes more to the song and makes it feel more natural to play.
00:21:202 - Pretty much the same what I said above: to skip this beat is imo pointless if you can play it anyways, you should add a Don note here.
00:24:694 - 00:28:186 - https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/zxGSuvhx.png the smaller number of notes works better than having awkward and forced breaks which skips the strong beats at this section, again the marked notes are Finishers, Big Don works imo better here.
00:34:535 - 00:38:345 - https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/gCetZtWg.png although the SR goes up a bit, this is an easier version of your current pattern.

going through the suggestion it actually push up to 2.08* which is... well, firetruck me. Well, we also could try to leave out the 1/2 parts, the SR goes significantely down, enough to deal with the small amount of SR you get.yeah this all seems good ow my brain

Jonawaga wrote:

hello NM + other stuff

1. Plz add my Kantan http://pastebin.com/hzDC2X8D
2. I mapped the other version I swear http://osump.net/mapsets/58053770be4f4aaf31f1ab48?b=58053770be4f4aaf31f1ab47

[Futsuu]

1. 00:08:821 - / 00:27:869 (24,25) - add a k because you're following the clap every 2nd and 4th beat but you missed one here ;-; Also, this would complete the "hit three!" pattern in the game
   00:18:980 (5,6) - I think kD d would be better than kK k here because it's would help differentiate it from the surrounding kats
2. 00:19:932 - add a finisher here because it's the same sound as the previous
3. 00:25:964 (19,20,21,22,23,24) - / 00:58:980 (20,21,22,23,24,25) - consider inverting this to kkd kkd, this will help maintain the consistency of using k on every 2nd and 4th and it will help differentiate the pitch of 00:25:329 (18,19) - these and 00:27:869 (24,25) - these
4. 00:44:376 (9,10) - don't map this as two kats, it leaves too much monochrome in this area, I recommend you make it consistent with you pattern back 00:11:361 (10,11) - here
5. 01:12:313 (2,3) - switch to dK or kD because those are easier patterns for Futsuu, preferably dK to be consistent with 01:22:789 (25) - this

[Muzukashii]

1. 00:11:361 (19) - switch to k to keep the 2nd and 4ths consistent
2. 00:14:853 (32) - switch to d because the pitch is falling
3. 00:17:392 (42) - switch to k because the pitch is rising
4. your kiai looks good ^^

[Oni]

1. 00:11:202 (23,24) - / 00:21:361 (70,71) - ctrl+g so that the 4th 00:11:361 - here can be a k and so that 00:11:361 (24,25) - these two can be the same
2. 00:17:075 (49) - k basically same reason as above
3. 00:32:789 (122,123) - / 00:35:329 (134,135) - differentiate these, they very in pitch, either kd or dk i dunno this seems pretty perfect pitch-wise to me already :/
   same suggestions in the same parts uwu

best of luck~!!

SteveOsu420 wrote:

The modding is done! Here's my modding.
LEGEND:
d or D : don or big don
k or K : kat or big kat
_ : space
? : maybe

Futsuu

00:25:329 (19) - change that into k.
00:25:646 - add a d?
00:26:599 (22) - move that to 00:26:916
00:30:726 (31) - change that into D.
00:32:948 (35) - change that into k.
00:33:265 (36) - change that into D.
00:35:487 (40) - change that into k?
00:36:123 (42) - change that into K. nah its fine tbh
00:48:186 (2,1) - ctrl+G.
00:58:345 (19) - change that into k.
00:58:662 - add a d.
00:59:615 (22) - move that to 00:59:932
01:03:742 (31) - change that into D.
01:05:646 (34,35) - ctrl+G.
01:06:281 (36) - change that into D.
01:08:185 (39,40) - ctrl+G.
01:09:139 (42) - change that into K.
01:16:122 (11) - change that into k.
01:16:439 (12) - change that into D.
01:18:661 (16) - change that into k.
01:19:297 (18) - change that into K.
01:21:201 (23) - change that into k.
01:21:519 (24) - change that into d.

Muzukashii

00:11:043 (18) - change that into k because of the pitch.
00:19:297 (48) - that that into D because its a falling pitch.
00:28:186 (82) - change that into D.
00:30:726 (91) - same issue ^.
00:36:123 (108) - change that into K. it would need K on the opposite side as well and I don't like how dense that feels to play
00:37:710 (114) - change that into k.
00:44:059 (18) - same issue ^.
00:53:583 (53) - same issue ^.
01:01:202 (82) - same issue ^.
01:03:742 (91) - change that into D.
01:04:377 (93,94) - press ctrl+G?
01:06:282 (101) - change that into d.
01:06:917 (103,104) - press ctrl+G.
01:09:139 (113) - change that into K?
01:13:900 (4) - change that into D.
01:14:535 (6,7) - ctrl+G?
01:16:440 (14) - change that into d. i kinda prefer this as k
01:19:297 (25) - change that into K?

gaston_2199 wrote:

Hi!
NM from my queue~

[ Kantan]

• I can't find error here, nice! Maybe remove some notes for add more breaks

[ Futsuu]

1. 01:12:630 (3) - Add finisher here
2. 01:16:122 (10) - Add finisher for consistence
   
   Same, It's a very good diff!

[ Muzukashii]

1. 01:01:202 (82) - Unconcistent, change to don and add finisher(like 00:28:186 (82) - )

[ Oni]

• Consider add more patterns from Oni like ddk kkd ddkkd kkddk.

1. 00:20:170 - Add note don here to ddk
2. 00:31:519 - Add note? This is a Oni, you can remove some breaks
3. 00:34:059 - The same as above ^
4. 00:53:186 - Same that 00:20:170 -
5. 01:04:535 - Add note for same reason as 00:31:519 -

I don't mod Inner Oni because the mapper was banned lol, anyways is a good diff!
Take my star and Good luck~

1. Fix your SliderMultiplier:1.39559983568192 in .osu file (make it 1.4)
2. Do not spam kdk dkd patterns in such low difficulties- they break density a bit and their excessive quantity force player to be nervous(player of that map level). 00:15:805 (35) - here is example where you can put don except kat. It will make overall flow better and smoother. Check this suggestion to all of your triples, maybe you'll change some more.
3. I have not any suggestion to this diff, it is already looks polished, but with 1 thing, that i mentioned before ^.

1. 00:32:949 (126) - for emphasizing sounds that you already emphasized( 00:32:313 (122,124) - ) put here kat.
2. 00:35:488 (140) - ^
3. 01:05:964 (127) - ^
4. 01:08:503 (141) - ^
5. 01:16:123 (24) - ^
6. 01:18:663 (38) - ^

1. Fix your SliderMultiplier:1.39559983091355 in .osu file
2. 00:17:471 (94) - i do not hear any sound here, no need in making triple where it's not exist. 00:16:043 (84,87) - those are made for following the rhytm(or idk why), this one isn't, imo.
3. 00:18:742 (102) - move it to 00:18:583 - . Why : to make your overall rhytm stable, you need to follow tact, i mean 00:16:043 (84,87) - are good with triple at 00:18:583, but sounds a bit weird with triple at 00:18:742.
4. 00:28:821 (169) - think about don here. Bass sound will be emphasized if you do that.
5. 00:30:091 (174,175,176,177,178,179,180) - kdkdkdd will be also good here and emphasize sound better, but it's ok now too.
6. 00:51:599 - as i said before.
7. 00:55:250 (329,332,335) - don will suit too and make it a bit more smoother to hear.
8. 01:01:837 - bass sound, as i said before.
9. 01:03:107 (374,375,376,377,378,379,380) - as said before.

Remus wrote:

Hello.

[Muzukashii]

1. Fix your SliderMultiplier:1.39559983568192 in .osu file (make it 1.4)
2. Do not spam kdk dkd patterns in such low difficulties- they break density a bit and their excessive quantity force player to be nervous(player of that map level). 00:15:805 (35) - here is example where you can put don except kat. It will make overall flow better and smoother. Check this suggestion to all of your triples, maybe you'll change some more.
3. I have not any suggestion to this diff, it is already looks polished, but with 1 thing, that i mentioned before ^.

[Oni]

1. 00:32:949 (126) - for emphasizing sounds that you already emphasized( 00:32:313 (122,124) - ) put here kat.
2. 00:35:488 (140) - ^
3. 01:05:964 (127) - ^
4. 01:08:503 (141) - ^
5. 01:16:123 (24) - ^
6. 01:18:663 (38) - ^

[Ayyri's Oni]

1. Fix your SliderMultiplier:1.39559983091355 in .osu file
2. 00:17:471 (94) - i do not hear any sound here, no need in making triple where it's not exist. 00:16:043 (84,87) - those are made for following the rhytm(or idk why), this one isn't, imo.
3. 00:18:742 (102) - move it to 00:18:583 - . Why : to make your overall rhytm stable, you need to follow tact, i mean 00:16:043 (84,87) - are good with triple at 00:18:583, but sounds a bit weird with triple at 00:18:742.
4. 00:28:821 (169) - think about don here. Bass sound will be emphasized if you do that.
5. 00:30:091 (174,175,176,177,178,179,180) - kdkdkdd will be also good here and emphasize sound better, but it's ok now too.
6. 00:51:599 - as i said before.
7. 00:55:250 (329,332,335) - don will suit too and make it a bit more smoother to hear.
8. 01:01:837 - bass sound, as i said before.
9. 01:03:107 (374,375,376,377,378,379,380) - as said before.

Map is so repeating D:
But it looks good anyway, good job, well-made diffs.
Good luck with ranking!

Gabe wrote:

hi there!!

Ill give you what I have so far, cause I don't know if anything from the other mod was mentioned on mine.. o3o

General
I think you can delete "Video Game" from the tags as they will normally be set as the genre of the map. Poke a QAT for a second opinion as they are the ones who set them, tho.

Jon's Kantan

1. 00:18:027 (12) - As there is already too many kats in this section, you should consider changing this note to a don instead. It also sound good tho.
2. 00:23:107 (5) - I'd suggest you to change this kat for a don, as the previous note doesn't have a similar sound as this one note. Also, it will have the same pattern as 00:20:567 (1,2,3) - but with reversed colors.
3. 00:31:996 (16,17,18) - You can deny this one, but I would like your opinion on that one. Since it's a Kantan difficulty, which means the easiest difficulty on the mapset, it would be nice and more beginner-friendly if you'd delete both (17) and (18) notes. As there are a very loud bass drum sounds for these three notes, you seem to have forgotten to emphasize the same sound but on 00:32:948 - . As I previously say, since it's a Kantan difficulty, you wouldn't go crazy on your notes, so the most easiest thing here will be simply delete these two notes. 00:31:996 (16) - This note will do quite the job in emphasizing the loud sound.
4. Apply the same thing for the rest

Futsuu

1. 00:02:154 (4) - If you were looking at the beginning of Kantan, Jon was using 2/1 notes for quite a while, so to make some kind of transition from these two difficulties, you should consider deleting this note, but keep 00:02:789 (5) - this note to make a transition with the next measure. Try to be consistent until 00:07:869 (1) - .
2. 00:14:853 (1,2) - With these two notes here,
3. 00:15:488 (1) - I'd suggest you to add a finish hitsound here as we can perfectly hear it in the background of the song.
4. 00:24:694 (18) - I feel like you can replace this note by a kat instead.
5. 00:33:265 (37) - With this note, it would be nice if you'd change it for a Don instead, as it will follow this note 00:30:726 (32) -
6. Apply for the rest

Oni

1. 00:08:821 (11) - Due to the clap sound in here, you should add a kat to this note instead.
2. 00:15:170 (41) - I'd change this don for a kat instead as the previous note doesn't have the same kind of sound as this note here. Also, it's going to have some kind of consistency with these notes here: 00:13:265 (30,34,37) -
3. 00:25:488 - Just a suggestion here, I think it would be better if you would delete this note right here, so it will have a better recognition from this part 00:24:535 (85,86,87,88,89,90) - which has extra sounds that 00:25:488 (91) - doesn't have and this part 00:25:646 (92,93,94,95,96) - which is louder due to the finish hitsounds. TL:DR delete the note.
4. 00:30:726 (112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125) - As for these two patterns over here, I don't believe they follow the song correctly. Yet, you should take the note 118, turn it into a don and move it between the notes 116 and 117. There is no apparent sound here 00:31:837 - that needs any emphasis. Should be the same thing for 00:33:742 (129,130,131,132) - as well. I feel as though this is fine, because of the consistent 1/2 notes in the music thanks to the trumpet
5. Apply the same thing for the rest

Skylish wrote:

From my modding queue

[Jon's Kantan]

> 00:09:138 - / 00:42:154 - / ...The melody starts joining here, I think there should be some contrasting notes to state it out clearly for this bar. How about K k k D at 00:09:138 - ? 00:10:408 - as an on-beat of a new session, D is relatively more familiar than K (unless 00:20:567 - , you can say there's pitch difference).

> 00:09:138 - / 00:42:154 - / 01:12:630 - in case you want to keep k k k D, it's still preferable to change 00:09:138 - to a Finish note because it has an extra strong dynamic shown comparing with the previous introduction part.

> 00:15:488 - / 00:48:503 - there is a hidden cymbal crash right here. How about adding a Finish?

> 00:23:107 - / 00:56:123 - d suits here because the tone goes down a bit (just a bit).

> 01:08:821 - It's quite obvious that the instrumental part has some variation for the second Kiai. A clear cymbal crash is added right here, Finish should be put. It is fine and not too clumsy since it's already 4 bars away from the last Finish (01:03:742 - ).

> 01:23:424 - Keep it as k d K is fine when you are screening for patterns like 00:09:138 -

[Oni]

> 00:09:138 - pretty much the same as mentioned in Kantan, where's the Finish for the hidden cymbal crash? It is definitely okay to have a ddd K pattern since it is an Oni.

! 00:10:408 - I think you keep the mapping channel as melody too stiff, you can make more variations like inserting more 1/4 patterns before or in the middle of the melody phrases. The current patterns are not balanced since at 00:19:297 - , there is an emerge of densely built up patterns. That's why some 1/4 patterns, or relatively densed or extra notes should be put in the melody phrases. Moreover, Muzu-Oni this gap looks too narrow, more notes should be put in Oni for sure to make the spread look better.

> 00:11:837 - / 00:21:996 - / 00:28:980 - You can put a d here to maintain a relatively close connections between notes and notes (maintain density). It is not strange as you use off-beat patterns for the introduction part already. Certain off-beat pattern usages are expected and not weired right here.

> 00:13:424 - It's a good place to put triplet tbh. This note itself is an accompaniment, why not even putting one more at 00:13:503 - to enrich the pattern?

> 00:14:853 - another place you can use a triplet, kkd should suit here.

> 00:15:170 - a calp exists, changing to k despite the pitch should be more consistent in overall mapping style.

> 00:19:932 - definitely you should keep it as a Finish too! You make a very good contrast in terms of pattern usage. Apart from that, I think some colour should be altered: 00:19:297 (61) -
In this session, Finishers are stated out as D K D according to their pitches. 00:20:408 - changing to k to emphasize the upcoming on-beat D. 00:19:297 - / 00:20:567 - They should be identical to 00:10:408 - .

> 00:20:567 - Fix some patterns I mentioned above, the whole song is quite repetitive and you ought to know what to do :^)

> 00:24:853 - triplet is available (maybe kkk)

> 00:37:075 - / 01:10:091 - / 01:20:249 - A finish seems suiting the pattern you are going to use. O o O o O is beautiful!

> 01:12:154 - / 01:12:313 - they should be d k instead of k d, k should match on every clap, right?

> 01:22:313 - / 01:22:472 - same as above

> 01:24:059 - Yeah I think the last note with K should be better due to its high pitch ending. Then 01:23:742 - is changed to D for a better emphasis effect.

[]

Where's your mentor? GL

Gabe wrote:

hi there!!

Ill give you what I have so far, cause I don't know if anything from the other mod was mentioned on mine.. o3o

General
I think you can delete "Video Game" from the tags as they will normally be set as the genre of the map. Poke a QAT for a second opinion as they are the ones who set them, tho.

Jon's Kantan

1. 00:18:027 (12) - As there is already too many kats in this section, you should consider changing this note to a don instead. It also sound good tho. i'd prefer to switch the next one
2. 00:23:107 (5) - I'd suggest you to change this kat for a don, as the previous note doesn't have a similar sound as this one note. Also, it will have the same pattern as 00:20:567 (1,2,3) - but with reversed colors. fixed
3. 00:31:996 (16,17,18) - You can deny this one, but I would like your opinion on that one. Since it's a Kantan difficulty, which means the easiest difficulty on the mapset, it would be nice and more beginner-friendly if you'd delete both (17) and (18) notes. As there are a very loud bass drum sounds for these three notes, you seem to have forgotten to emphasize the same sound but on 00:32:948 - . As I previously say, since it's a Kantan difficulty, you wouldn't go crazy on your notes, so the most easiest thing here will be simply delete these two notes. 00:31:996 (16) - This note will do quite the job in emphasizing the loud sound. fixed
4. Apply the same thing for the rest fixed

Skylish wrote:

From my modding queue

[Jon's Kantan]

> 00:09:138 - / 00:42:154 - / ...The melody starts joining here, I think there should be some contrasting notes to state it out clearly for this bar. How about K k k D at 00:09:138 - ? 00:10:408 - as an on-beat of a new session, D is relatively more familiar than K (unless 00:20:567 - , you can say there's pitch difference). too complicated for my liking in a Kantan

> 00:09:138 - / 00:42:154 - / 01:12:630 - in case you want to keep k k k D, it's still preferable to change 00:09:138 - to a Finish note because it has an extra strong dynamic shown comparing with the previous introduction part. too complicated for my liking in a Kantan


> 00:15:488 - / 00:48:503 - there is a hidden cymbal crash right here. How about adding a Finish? too complicated for my liking in a Kantan

> 00:23:107 - / 00:56:123 - d suits here because the tone goes down a bit (just a bit). fixed previous mod

> 01:08:821 - It's quite obvious that the instrumental part has some variation for the second Kiai. A clear cymbal crash is added right here, Finish should be put. It is fine and not too clumsy since it's already 4 bars away from the last Finish (01:03:742 - ). it may be, but too complicated for my liking in a Kantan

> 01:23:424 - Keep it as k d K is fine when you are screening for patterns like 00:09:138 - fixed previous mod

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strickluke wrote:

M4M as requested in the Mentor discord (my map: goreshit - the nature of dying)

Futsuu

1. 00:33:265 (37) - Change to K plox
2. 01:06:281 (37) - ^
3. You might be better off making the patterns like K K D instead of K k D in order to avoid problems in the future, but its probably fine as is.

Muzukashii

1. 00:32:630 (96,97,98) - Maybe change this to dkk because it sounds better
2. 00:35:170 (104,105,106) - ^
3. 00:37:075 (112,113,114,115) - I would personally change all of these to finisher notes
4. 01:20:249 (29,30,31,32) - Change to all finisher notes
5. 01:22:789 (38) - Change to D or K (your choice)
6. Your finisher usage in this map seems somewhat odd and random at times, I would suggest taking a look at where you could add or get rid of finishers in order to make the map more consistent.

Oni

1. 00:25:488 (98) - Get rid of this note to give the player time to prepare for the next pattern
2. 00:36:916 (9) - Change to k
3. 01:10:091 (10) - Change to K
4. 01:23:742 (60) - Probably should change this to D

good luck with your mapset!

strickluke wrote:

M4M as requested in the Mentor discord (my map: goreshit - the nature of dying)

Jon's Kantan

1. 00:05:646 (9,10,11,12) - You could change this pattern to something like k d k d too complex for my liking
2. 00:08:186 (13,14) - Maybe k k too complex for my liking
3. 00:09:138 (15) - I'd reccomend changing this to a K sure
4. 00:41:202 (27,28) - Change this to k k if you did the same with the previous suggestion too complex for my liking
5. 00:42:154 (29) - Change to K, like the previous suggestion sure
6. 01:23:424 (27) - Add a k here to make it consistent with this note 01:13:265 (14) - sure

good luck with your mapset!

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Gabe wrote:

hi there!!

Futsuu

1. 00:14:853 (1,2) - With these two notes here,

Stefan wrote:

Oh here we are agaaaaaain

[Kantan]
00:05:646 (9,10,11,12,13,14) - This is pretty straightforward and even for Kantan standard very plain. One idea is to change the hitsounds to k. Meanwhile I find that 00:08:503 (14) - sounds better at 00:08:821 - . fixed~
00:10:408 - 00:24:376 - I think we can actually do more than just repeating 1/1 all the time with some small breaks between. I will give you some ideas for changes you can do:
-) remove 00:11:043 (2) - and move 00:11:678 (2) - to 00:11:361 - . fixed~
-) repeat this for 00:16:123 (9,10) - and 00:21:202 (2,3) - . fixed~
-) remove 00:19:932 (15) - to emphasize 00:19:297 (14) - better or add a don note on 00:18:980 - so this has more impact. fixed~
00:28:821 (11) - Instead of continue that combo into a fairly long one, you could focus to the long sound at 00:28:186 - and just remove 00:28:821 (11) - fixed~ completely. Additionally, you can add finishers to 00:29:456 (12,13) - , so they are stronger then. I want to save finishers for the kiai there
00:36:440 (21,22) - Also here we can make this part more interesting by moving 00:36:440 (21) - to 00:36:757 - and to change it into don. And a don note at 00:37:710 - is also pretty nice. fixed~
00:39:297 (24) - I would extend the break by removing this note. Not only because it would be a good decision if you applied to the previous idea but I find it is a calm part and it makes sense to have a longer break (while it wouldn't at the begin of the map, it's just the second loop after all). fixed~
00:38:345 - 01:11:361 - Just re-apply to the said things above. fixed~
01:11:996 (12) - In case you had added a note on 01:10:726 - it'd be too long for the combo so to delete this note would be recommend. fixed~
01:22:154 (25) - That one can be moved to 01:23:424 - , just to stay consistent with the things above. fixed~

So to summarize things: If that works with the Kantan (and let it check by some more people) I see good chances here. The Futsuu is also waaaay better than I remember from the last time.

Ellyu wrote:

Hi from my q

[General]
Though you say u only need mod on Kantan. But after I test all the diffs I have one more thing want to point out about the volume. All the diffs except the top diff's volume is a bit too high for me,especially in the intro. U sure 100% fit the music well? Why not do as Ayyri to set 75%?

[Kantan]
00:09:773 (12,13,1) - kkD. cuz big D always emphasize downbeat better.
00:42:789 (28,29,1) - same as^
00:18:662 (11,12,13) - better not to put 1/2 dkd pattern in Kantan. u know Kantan is design for the very begginer and mutiple color triple(especially dkd and kdk) always confuse them. And bpm189 is not a low bpm too so it really hard for them.
00:51:678 (11,12,13) - same as^ btw I would put kkd here.
00:37:710 (21,22) - kD for the reason of pitch
01:10:726 (11,12) - 01:23:424 (27,28) - same as^

Very cute song. And so does the map. GL

Melanie wrote:

Hi from my queue~

[Kantan]
00:09:138 (11) - K because there is a cymbal sound in that point I prefer D
00:09:773 (12) - D~ why? owo k is more simple for kantan
00:42:154 (27) - K~ I prefer D
01:22:788 (26) - ^ I prefer D inconsistent with other parts

that's all, nice map

1. I get it. The song basically loops. But for the first half of the map to be identical to the second half note for note is embarrassing. The fact that it's bubbled even more. Yet, I'm hardly surprised.
   
2. Anyways, it's often very good practice to map the second loop of a song at least slightly different to make things interesting, but it is an absolute must for recurrences of the chorus (or in this case the kiai) so that what is the true climax of the song isn't reduced to the same emphasis as the first kiai.
   
3. Slightly more complex patterns, simple note additions, the same density but with different, equally nice sounding patterns, literally any difference helps make repetitions in songs not be as boring as they'd otherwise be.

1. 00:09:456 (43,44,45) - d d K? Just to make it more musically accurate.Every occurrence.
2. 00:10:567 - d? So as to not rob emphasis from the upcoming k notes.
3. 00:11:202 - It would not hurt at all to see you not use kdk ever this whole map. Not only does ddk kdk k play poorly as the player has to weirdly hit the same key a lot, but kdk is such a clunky pattern that implies more emphasis than the song actually has, similar to how one finds specific places where patterns like dkd and dkk fit more. In this case, I wouldn’t even use a triplet, since not much truly goes on.
   Adding to that, using k for every trumpet note is quirky, but very limiting. Making notes like
   00:11:361 (54) - 00:14:058 (72) - 00:16:598 (88) - All give way more emphasis to the actual melody instead if “it’s trumpet so k”. Consider both these points for the rest of the map.
4. 00:15:329 (79) - d? Keeping this note different from 00:15:488 - gives it way more emphasis.
5. 00:17:472 - Shouldn’t there be a triplet here to be consistent with 00:12:392 - ? Maybe a kkd since the pitch is rising this time.
6. 00:19:456 (105,106,107,108) - and 00:20:249 (112) - all d? I see you’re mapping to the claps, giving the Ks emphasis is much more impactful, while also lowering the amount of ddk here.
7. 00:22:154 - If this part is more intense due to the instrument change, why is 00:23:583 - less intense? There’s definitely some structure revamp to consider, where you should make up your mind about which parts should have more notes instead of going about it randomly.
8. 00:25:805 (150,151,152,153) - So these are the more intense sounds right? They need to stand out compared to the K before it. Whether it be ignoring the cymbal crash and mapping 00:25:646 (149) - as k or making 00:25:805 (150,151,152,153) - all D to give them the same identity, both work. Applies to every occurrence. If the latter, 00:27:710 (160,161,162) - should be kkk.
9. 00:28:503 - k k d d k d? I don’t get the crazy drop in density. This pattern claps and leads in nicely.
10. 00:30:091 (171,172,173,174,175,176,177) - Switching from mapping this as big notes to a stream is iffy, but I’ll take it as long as you make 00:30:488 (176) - k .
11. 00:30:726 - I’ll accept how you mapped this if you make it follow the melody a bit better, a bit like this:
    
    The kat at the very end is NOT a big note, as it doesn’t have any special emphasis unlike the huge sounding drum hits.
12. 00:36:916 (216) - k to fit the pitch raise? I don’t like how lightly mapped this is because of the big notes but I get the idea.
    
    And then it loops, which is where your remapping starts. Don’t overdo it THAT much, but it should NOT be hard to think of other ways to either spice it up or map it differently.

1. 00:15:488 (46) - Don’t really need a finisher here, nothing calls for it.
2. 00:25:646 - Similar to Ayyri’s diff, I think there’s a nicer way to give the 00:25:805 (99,100,101,102) - notes more emphasis.
3. 00:30:249 (118,119) - Though it’s Oni, a break from removing these notes wouldn’t be that bad. 00:29:932 - can have a don to make up for it if it matters to you. Also applies to kiai #2.
4. 01:18:980 - Chose to ignore the usual triplets here?
   
   You can also go ahead and modify some stuff in the loop. Even things like the note at 00:58:503 - are good. Not a huge change, but it’s a difference that the player has to look out for. Oni has a lot of freedom in this sense.

1. 00:08:821 (8,9) - Delete these notes as a break. It’s important to limit disproportionately long strings of notes.
2. 00:26:123 (74,79) - k for both of these? Should bundle them up.
3. 00:30:091 (88,89,90) - kkk? Just to differentiate it from the ddk in kiai. Then the same at 01:03:107 (88,89,90) - for consistency’s sake.
4. 00:38:662 (117) - Delete this as another break.
   
   I’m glad kiai gets harder to vary, but it creates a giant gap with Futsuu than needs to be taken care of. Additionally, you need a couple more breaks in it too.

1. 00:11:996 (8) - d? Lot’s to do besides k d k d k.
2. 00:20:884 (12) - What is this note for?
3. 00:31:361 - You can add a note here, there’s no reason to make islands like these.
4. 01:08:980 - No 1/2 note here? The others have it. If not (which I think I prefer), then the other ones should drop it too.
   
   As the song loops, you can change the notes in some of your 5plets.

1. 00:05:646 - What the heck, I wanted to suggest that when these beep boops kick in that the mapping could change and the diff that does it just had to be Jon’s. Nice!
   Ever thought of something like this? Since it seems you’re kinda scared of using 1/2 (which you prooobably should)
   
2. 01:22:788 (26,27,28) - You mapped this pretty easy compared to the k kkd etc. stuff you’d map in other occurrences. I’m not sure why exactly.
   
   This diff could also easily vary some doubles and other patterns as well.

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Nah, sorry. This is a veto.

[Oni]

1. 00:15:488 (46) - Don’t really need a finisher here, nothing calls for it.
2. 00:25:646 - Similar to Ayyri’s diff, I think there’s a nicer way to give the 00:25:805 (99,100,101,102) - notes more emphasis.
3. 00:30:249 (118,119) - Though it’s Oni, a break from removing these notes wouldn’t be that bad. 00:29:932 - can have a don to make up for it if it matters to you. Also applies to kiai #2. Again, like in the muzu, I think the clap sound in the music here needs to be mapped to, so i've kept it in,
   and removed the other.
4. 01:18:980 - Chose to ignore the usual triplets here? sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit my b
   
   You can also go ahead and modify some stuff in the loop. Even things like the note at 00:58:503 - are good. Not a huge change, but it’s a difference that the player has to look out for. Oni has a lot of freedom in this sense.

[Muzukashii]

1. 00:08:821 (8,9) - Delete these notes as a break. It’s important to limit disproportionately long strings of notes. I think the clap sound is pretty important to map to here, so i'll be keeping (8) in.
2. 00:26:123 (74,79) - k for both of these? Should bundle them up.
3. 00:30:091 (88,89,90) - kkk? Just to differentiate it from the ddk in kiai. Then the same at 01:03:107 (88,89,90) - for consistency’s sake.
4. 00:38:662 (117) - Delete this as another break.
   
   I’m glad kiai gets harder to vary, but it creates a giant gap with Futsuu than needs to be taken care of. Additionally, you need a couple more breaks in it too. Hopefully I've accomplished this adequately by thinning out some of the doubles/triples that may not be all too necessary.

[Futsuu]

1. 00:11:996 (8) - d? Lot’s to do besides k d k d k.
2. 00:20:884 (12) - What is this note for? There is a consistent clapping sound in the music every 2 bars, starting on this note (00:20:884 (12,13,14,16,18,19,20) -) Also, removing this would leave an awkward 3/1 gap between notes. I'm pretty adamant in the logic of this note.
3. 00:31:361 - You can add a note here, there’s no reason to make islands like these.
4. 01:08:980 - No 1/2 note here? The others have it. If not (which I think I prefer), then the other ones should drop it too.
   
   As the song loops, you can change the notes in some of your 5plets.

[Kantan]

1. 00:05:646 - What the heck, I wanted to suggest that when these beep boops kick in that the mapping could change and the diff that does it just had to be Jon’s. Nice!
   Ever thought of something like this? Since it seems you’re kinda scared of using 1/2 (which you prooobably should)
   
2. 01:22:788 (26,27,28) - You mapped this pretty easy compared to the k kkd etc. stuff you’d map in other occurrences. I’m not sure why exactly.
   
   This diff could also easily vary some doubles and other patterns as well.

Overall, the spread isn’t bad; but parts like second kiai neglect it. I’ve stated my problems and hope you can find another reliable mod before calling me back.

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Nah, sorry. This is a veto.

[Kantan]

1. 00:05:646 - What the heck, I wanted to suggest that when these beep boops kick in that the mapping could change and the diff that does it just had to be Jon’s. Nice! owo thanks
   Ever thought of something like this? Since it seems you’re kinda scared of using 1/2 (which you prooobably should) fixed~
   
2. 01:22:788 (26,27,28) - You mapped this pretty easy compared to the k kkd etc. stuff you’d map in other occurrences. I’m not sure why exactly. fixed~ (I think)
   
   This diff could also easily vary some doubles and other patterns as well. Fixed~

Overall, the spread isn’t bad; but parts like second kiai neglect it. I’ve stated my problems and hope you can find another reliable mod before calling me back.

1. Fix metadata in Kantan

1. lacking power, Kiai times could have more triplets.
2. 00:32:313 -, 00:34:853 - Try adding dons.
3. 01:05:012 (4,7) - 01:15:170 (16,17) - 01:17:709 (19,20) - could have triplets as well.

1. 00:08:503 (3,4,1) - I recommend kdk here in order to follow the clap and melody.
2. 00:25:964 (23,24) - 00:27:234 (26,27) - I'd like to make triplet here rather than 00:27:869 (28,29,30) - to follow the strong sound.
   
3. 00:58:345 (21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30) - ^
4. 01:04:376 - As first kiai time has a note at the time, this point should not be empty. 01:06:916 - here too.
5. 01:14:535 -, 01:17:075 ^

1. 00:16:440 (36) - 00:49:456 (37) -Try moving those notes to 1/2 left. they will fit to the melody well.

1. 00:16:599 (53,54,55,56,57,58) - 00:49:615 (53,54,55,56,57,58) - These parts need more notes in order to keep appropriate density. e.g.:
   

1. Check Ozzy's mod first