Flower - Akikaze no Answer [Osu|CatchTheBeat] · forum

Mir

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Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-06-17T19:22:21+00:00

Lasse wrote:

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mir
lower ar pls
9 just seemed to high considering difficulty of the map and how it was mapped, around 8.7 might be nice
01:11:201 (2) - noticeably off, could probably just map https://lasse.s-ul.eu/MEgm0iZJ.jpg ? seems weird to simplify this to 1/4 snap when 01:10:436 (3,4) - map 1/16 ticks
same nc suggestion as top diff on spots like 00:14:416 (3,1) - as that seems more fitting with the song
00:17:783 (3) - should silence ends of these and similar ones cause random 1/8 hs rhythm sounds stupid there
01:02:477 (1,2,3) - this 1/4 patterning seems so out of place with other ones you used. something like https://lasse.s-ul.eu/f5jMi4OA.jpg seems better

fixed all again

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Chaos

osu! Alumni

244 posts

Joined May 2013

Chaos 2017-06-17T20:01:30+00:00

Lasse wrote:
chaos
00:31:099 (2) - what is this mapped to? mapping 00:31:253 - seems more reasonable the vocal change as done previously in the intro. I'd like to keep it this way as I emphasize the vocals throughout the entire diff
00:47:018 (6) - is alright with vocals, but 00:47:171 - is like the most outstanding beat of this part, could so something like https://lasse.s-ul.eu/8RcwZg5A.jpg for the same reason as above, I'd like to keep it this way as it best matches the vocals. I know that I skip over strong percussion sounds due to my choices but I wanted the map to follow the singing wherever possible.
00:50:232 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - could be a bit too complex for the intended difficulty. could do https://streamable.com/2enww which also gives nice emphasis on 00:52:069 (7) - with how it breaks movement Done
01:09:212 (1,1) - overlapping would help readability a bit I think changed to https://chaos.s-ul.eu/KVSa5rfx.png, let me know if this is something like what you had in mind
01:26:355 (6) - similar to the other stack pattern, something like https://lasse.s-ul.eu/L6MpMXP3.jpg seems alright? changed
01:36:763 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - even spacing would make this much more intuitive to read and play I did https://chaos.s-ul.eu/vMA9s1kq.png, again let me know if you had something else in mind
01:46:865 - something like https://lasse.s-ul.eu/t4ORBQZ6.jpg seems more fitting rhythmically fixed to https://chaos.s-ul.eu/WF3cAe6Z.png

Thanks a lot for the mod, let me know if this is all alright with you.

update

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Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Benita 2017-06-17T20:26:40+00:00

Added a direction change I guess lmao

http://puu.sh/wmT7B/fef7b05e76.osu

Lanturn

osu! Alumni

3,912 posts

Joined March 2012

Lanturn 2017-06-19T05:59:29+00:00

Lasse wrote:
lanturn
this slider spam..
00:33:089 - could replace a few sliders like 00:35:538 (3) - with a single circle to provide a few moments were beginners actually get some rest from permantly aiming and holding keys
diff is fine, but a bit better balance between sliders and circles would be great since this diff is aimed at complete beginners that tend to have more problems with sliders/don't even know how they work

To keep the rhythm consistent, I would only be able to change a few of these. The vocals are too random in certain sections that if I followed them extensively, it would more than likely throw the player off. I don't mind adding a few more circles, though it does break a lot of my symmetry though. I can add 3 more circles this way in the 2nd section and remove 3 sliders (though previous sliders have repeats on them now). This will at least get rid of the 1/1 spam for that whole section.

As for breaks and such. This song doesn't really have those moments where they could be implemented. Maybe 00:28:191 (1,2) - is a possibility, but that's still finishing up the previous measures, and it doesn't really warrant the necessary gaps you're looking for. Since the Rhythm is pretty consistent, it's hard to cut anything off without it being too awkward.

Anyways. I changed a couple things at 00:35:538 (3,4,3,4,3,4) - but that's about it. This map was made long before the 'too many sliders' thing anyways, and with the consistency and placement of them, they won't be that difficult to complete for new players.

Thanks Lasse

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-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

-Sh1n1- 2017-06-20T22:44:25+00:00

Rain

Re-recheck
Well, it's time to be picky... sorry for the inconvenience.

00:14:110 (4,1,2) - vs 00:23:906 (3,1,2) - vs 01:42:274 (3,1,2) - keep consistency.
00:16:559 (3,1) - does it deserve hyperdash? taking 00:26:355 (3,1,2) - as a reference, I don't think so.
00:17:324 (3,4) - talking about structure, I feel that note is first then slider as you did on 00:27:120 (3,4) - and I'll explain you why: obviously the sound of 00:17:477 - is stronger than 00:17:630 - but 00:17:630 (4) - have a movement while 00:17:477 - not, I'm not suggesting a jump, I wanna see a movement between 00:17:324 - and 00:17:477 - to follow the sound propertly.
00:30:028 (5,6) - I'm ok with distances, my problem is... the current linear transition, it's like you need to smash the keyboard more than twuice to catch it, my sugestion is: try to make 00:30:334 (6) - less horizontal, something like 00:21:457 (3) - maybe.
00:34:161 (3,1) - reduce it a bit more, you are trying to enphasize vocal right?, but taking 00:43:804 (3,4,1) - 00:46:253 (3,4,1) - 00:48:701 (3,4,1) - etc as a reference, it looks like inconsistency.
00:36:610 (3,1) - same as above.
00:42:273 (3) - missing clap right? also 00:41:967 - feels empty.
00:56:967 (6,1) - remove hyperdash here cause there isn't something prominent that deserve it, 00:56:661 (5,6) - is enough.
01:19:620 (1,2) - try to reduce this distance and increase at 01:19:773 (2,3) - to make a better visual distance, it might looks nicer if you increase gradually the distance between each object.
01:22:681 (3,4,5) - overenphasized imo, I can understand on 01:21:457 (4,5,6) - cause sounds at 01:21:763 - and 01:21:916 - are prominent but at 01:22:987 (4,5) - the sounds are not enough strong, so move 01:22:987 (4) - a bit to the left.
01:47:172 (3,1) - is this a screen wall hyper?
01:50:845 (5) - slant it to the right but keep the current distance with next notes: 01:51:150 (6,7,1) -, this is to make a better transition, for example 01:50:539 (4,5,6,7) -, after the jump between 01:50:539 (4,5) -, you should stop and be quiet to catch 01:50:845 (5) - and then you have a zig zag jump, this is unconfortable tbh.

General

Epilepsy Warning pls

Answer of the Autumn Wind

Check your snaps carefully, first of all I want to know why 01:34:314 (1) - is finishing on 1/4? following your previous patterns: 01:31:865 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3) - you were following this part on 1/6, also 01:34:722 (2,3,4) - is overmapping imo, there isn't something prominent to deserve this kind of sliders.
01:33:701 (1) - 01:36:150 (8) - I want to ask you about this kind of snapping too, talking about the first one, 01:33:701 (1) -: voice finish at 01:34:008 -, plus there is a low piano sound there, same at 01:36:457 -, take mir's insane and benny's rain as an example. (this should be applied on hard too)

Zer0-

177 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

Zer0- 2017-06-20T23:35:57+00:00

-Sh1n1- wrote:

General
Epilepsy Warning pls fixed on all diffs, didnt think it would be needed but added just to be sure

Answer of the Autumn Wind
Check your snaps carefully, first of all I want to know why 01:34:314 (1) - is finishing on 1/4? This is the same on 1/4 and 1/3, the tick it ends on that is. following your previous patterns: 01:31:865 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3) - you were following this part on 1/6, also 01:34:722 (2,3,4) - is overmapping imo, there isn't something prominent to deserve this kind of sliders. ok I fixed this lol
01:33:701 (1) - 01:36:150 (8) - I want to ask you about this kind of snapping too, talking about the first one, 01:33:701 (1) -: voice finish at 01:34:008 -, plus there is a low piano sound there, same at 01:36:457 -, take mir's insane and benny's rain as an example. (this should be applied on hard too) did this on topdiff and hard

Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Benita 2017-06-21T16:46:22+00:00

-Sh1n1- wrote:

Re-recheck
Well, it's time to be picky... sorry for the inconvenience.

00:14:110 (4,1,2) - vs 00:23:906 (3,1,2) - vs 01:42:274 (3,1,2) - keep consistency. - Made them equally emphasised
00:16:559 (3,1) - does it deserve hyperdash? taking 00:26:355 (3,1,2) - as a reference, I don't think so. - I think so, yes xD You pointed out that one place where it didn't have a hdash as reference so added a hdash there instead lmao, all other beats like that has hyperdash
00:17:324 (3,4) - talking about structure, I feel that note is first then slider as you did on 00:27:120 (3,4) - and I'll explain you why: obviously the sound of 00:17:477 - is stronger than 00:17:630 - but 00:17:630 (4) - have a movement while 00:17:477 - not, I'm not suggesting a jump, I wanna see a movement between 00:17:324 - and 00:17:477 - to follow the sound propertly. - Fixed
00:30:028 (5,6) - I'm ok with distances, my problem is... the current linear transition, it's like you need to smash the keyboard more than twuice to catch it, my sugestion is: try to make 00:30:334 (6) - less horizontal, something like 00:21:457 (3) - maybe. - Fixed
00:34:161 (3,1) - reduce it a bit more, you are trying to enphasize vocal right?, but taking 00:43:804 (3,4,1) - 00:46:253 (3,4,1) - 00:48:701 (3,4,1) - etc as a reference, it looks like inconsistency. - Fixed
00:36:610 (3,1) - same as above. - Fixed
00:42:273 (3) - missing clap right? also 00:41:967 - feels empty. - Went over the whole map fixing hs inconsistensies!
00:56:967 (6,1) - remove hyperdash here cause there isn't something prominent that deserve it, 00:56:661 (5,6) - is enough. - I'll remove 5,6 instead cause I wanna keep hyper to downbeat!
01:19:620 (1,2) - try to reduce this distance and increase at 01:19:773 (2,3) - to make a better visual distance, it might looks nicer if you increase gradually the distance between each object. - To keep the two first notes consistent with the way I emphasised the drums in the rest of the map, I changed the slider after to make a visually better looking pattern
01:22:681 (3,4,5) - overenphasized imo, I can understand on 01:21:457 (4,5,6) - cause sounds at 01:21:763 - and 01:21:916 - are prominent but at 01:22:987 (4,5) - the sounds are not enough strong, so move 01:22:987 (4) - a bit to the left. - Decreased
01:47:172 (3,1) - is this a screen wall hyper? - It's more than 30 pixels from the wall so I wouldn't call it a wall hyper as the RC says it has to be more than 12 pixels from the edge of the playfield... but if you insist i change it, i will
01:50:845 (5) - slant it to the right but keep the current distance with next notes: 01:51:150 (6,7,1) -, this is to make a better transition, for example 01:50:539 (4,5,6,7) -, after the jump between 01:50:539 (4,5) -, you should stop and be quiet to catch 01:50:845 (5) - and then you have a zig zag jump, this is unconfortable tbh. - I don't think there's anything wrong with how this plays out, it's actually more or less the same pattern that is used previously in the map 01:24:824 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - and i really like this pattern ):

Thanks!

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-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

-Sh1n1- 2017-06-21T18:05:07+00:00

Fixed a pixel jump and WS on Chaos diff, we are ready to go :3

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2017-06-23T15:32:48+00:00

recheck

wind
00:23:293 (1) - lacks emphasis, you put noticeable spacing increase on similar beats in this part so it feels too weak in comparison. a very simple solution would be something like http://i.imgur.com/GdVV0Mw.jpg but there are many more that make sense

01:11:355 - think this could have nc cause of change in music (and it makes your star and actual 5 object pattern)
or nc on 01:11:661 - either solution would be nice

01:34:926 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - should make nc patterning here match surrouding patterns cause 8 notes thin seems out of place. either follow however vocals go or use measure/vocal based thing from before like http://i.imgur.com/wDvzxqk.jpg
01:38:599 - ^

mir
01:40:436 (1,3) - manual stack here intentional? looks fine but you never used something similar before so just make sure

hard
00:16:865 (4) - might want to apply nc changes from top diff for this one too // 00:29:110 -
00:50:385 - random kick, should be soft/auto

normal
since when is this hp5 lol
should be 4 or something
[]

should be all now

Mir

osu! Alumni

2,151 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-06-23T15:51:07+00:00

@Lasse done that and added a kiai section cuz i felt it fits the song's intensity, hopefully that's okay

also @Zer0- watch your hitsound at 01:34:314 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - on topdiff it's not properly done so fix that too before you call him back
- 01:37:987 (1,2,3) - also why is this lower intensity than 01:36:763 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - when the pitch is increasing wouldn't it get more spaced instead of less spaced?

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Zer0-

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Zer0- 2017-07-05T23:07:25+00:00

Am back finally

Lasse wrote:
recheck

wind
00:23:293 (1) - lacks emphasis, you put noticeable spacing increase on similar beats in this part so it feels too weak in comparison. a very simple solution would be something like http://i.imgur.com/GdVV0Mw.jpg but there are many more that make sense fixed

01:11:355 - think this could have nc cause of change in music (and it makes your star and actual 5 object pattern) okay
or nc on 01:11:661 - either solution would be nice

01:34:926 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - should make nc patterning here match surrouding patterns cause 8 notes thin seems out of place. either follow however vocals go or use measure/vocal based thing from before like http://i.imgur.com/wDvzxqk.jpg sure
01:38:599 - ^ ^

hard
00:16:865 (4) - might want to apply nc changes from top diff for this one too // 00:29:110 - ye
00:50:385 - random kick, should be soft/auto ye

normal
since when is this hp5 lol
should be 4 or something fixed
[]

should be all now

Mir wrote:

@Lasse done that and added a kiai section cuz i felt it fits the song's intensity, hopefully that's okay

also @Zer0- watch your hitsound at 01:34:314 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - on topdiff it's not properly done so fix that too before you call him back
- 01:37:987 (1,2,3) - also why is this lower intensity than 01:36:763 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - when the pitch is increasing wouldn't it get more spaced instead of less spaced? made it more spaced anjd fixd the hitsounds i think

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