Flower - Akikaze no Answer [Osu|CatchTheBeat] · forum

Razor Sharp

Joined October 2013

Razor Sharp 2017-05-31T19:54:26+00:00

mod for benny the bn

try slider tick rate 2

i think AR 8,8 would be nice here

00:01:253 (1,2) - why not increase the distance on the notes in this section by a tiny bit? Even tho its calm, this is very very close together for comfort imo

00:17:783 (5) - try to have this point towards the right instead. I find this a little awkward to play. And its more inviting if you change the direction

01:09:212 (7,8,9) - try to have (8) on x216 and (9) on x44? Seems to empathize this part better imo

01:11:661 (3) - I feel this would fit better with 2 sliders instead of the 1 there is now. Try This*?

01:31:865 (1,2,3) - why do you empathize the spacing between (1) and (2) but not for (3)? same goes for 01:34:314 (1,2,3) - I really dont see why, when the music is the same for these places.

01:37:375 (3,4,5) - ^

01:47:172 (3) - Tilt this a little to the left?

Good rain tho. clean

Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Benita 2017-06-03T11:08:10+00:00

Razor Sharp wrote:
mod for benny the bn

try slider tick rate 2 - eh literally makes no difference as there's literally only one slider that's long enough to be affected by it

i think AR 8,8 would be nice here - idk i feel ar9 is good as well so I'd like more opinions on this before I change it

00:01:253 (1,2) - why not increase the distance on the notes in this section by a tiny bit? Even tho its calm, this is very very close together for comfort imo - Supposed to be walks

00:17:783 (5) - try to have this point towards the right instead. I find this a little awkward to play. And its more inviting if you change the direction - The beat is pretty strong which is why I used antiflow to emphasise that

01:09:212 (7,8,9) - try to have (8) on x216 and (9) on x44? Seems to empathize this part better imo - sure

01:11:661 (3) - I feel this would fit better with 2 sliders instead of the 1 there is now. Try This*? - vocals are more or less equal strength so I feel it works better the way it is

01:31:865 (1,2,3) - why do you empathize the spacing between (1) and (2) but not for (3)? same goes for 01:34:314 (1,2,3) - I really dont see why, when the music is the same for these places. - because of the snares on 2 that doesn't exist on 3

01:37:375 (3,4,5) - ^ ^

01:47:172 (3) - Tilt this a little to the left? - tilted it a bit

Good rain tho. clean

thanks for mod!

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Title:Akikaze no Answer
TitleUnicode:秋風のアンサー
Artist:Flower
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Creator:Zer0-
Version:Benny's Rain
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Tags:Hanadokei Mio Nakajima Shuuka Fujii Manami Shigetome Reina Washio Kyoka Ichiki Nozomi Bando Harumi Sato Chiharu Muto Mir Benny- BennyBananas Lanturn Chaos Zero Kanari
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-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

-Sh1n1- 2017-06-16T08:12:10+00:00

Try to fix the ending of the map, currently a looooong wait after the last note, is it because SB maybe?

Funny IRC with Benny-, no more unnecessary breaks on kiai, no more overemphasized snares, movements and transitions are better imo, ctb it's ready to go, you deserve it, you are working hard on the last days, keep it up!

click me!

2017-06-15 09:45 -Sh1n1-: dakishimete itsudate
2017-06-15 09:45 -Sh1n1-: anata wo ... lalalala
2017-06-15 09:45 -Sh1n1-: let's do irc 
2017-06-15 09:45 -Sh1n1-: >.<
2017-06-15 09:45 -Sh1n1-: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1181409 Flower - Akikaze no Answer]
2017-06-15 09:45 Benny-: hahahha
2017-06-15 09:46 Benny-: wait wtf when did he add storyboard
2017-06-15 09:46 Benny-: LOL
2017-06-15 09:46 -Sh1n1-: haha
2017-06-15 09:46 -Sh1n1-: idk
2017-06-15 09:46 -Sh1n1-: I hope he asked to kanari
2017-06-15 09:46 -Sh1n1-: cause is the same of her map
2017-06-15 09:46 -Sh1n1-: xDD
2017-06-15 09:47 Benny-: well zer0 can make sb too
2017-06-15 09:47 Benny-: he is really good
2017-06-15 09:49 -Sh1n1-: fucking laptop
2017-06-15 09:49 -Sh1n1-: :c
2017-06-15 09:49 Benny-: same
2017-06-15 09:50 -Sh1n1-: well I trust in zero but after watching the full ver of kanari.... is the same
2017-06-15 09:50 -Sh1n1-: just cut
2017-06-15 09:50 -Sh1n1-: xd
2017-06-15 09:50 -Sh1n1-: anyways I don't care sb
2017-06-15 09:50 Benny-: i can ask him lul
2017-06-15 09:50 -Sh1n1-: :3
2017-06-15 09:50 -Sh1n1-: okie
2017-06-15 09:50 -Sh1n1-: I like your intro
2017-06-15 09:51 -Sh1n1-: and the midle part
2017-06-15 09:51 -Sh1n1-: but structure on kiai and density of notes kills me
2017-06-15 09:51 -Sh1n1-: I mean
2017-06-15 09:51 -Sh1n1-: 01:13:957 - 01:14:569 - there shouldn't be rest on kiai imo
2017-06-15 09:52 Benny-: xD
2017-06-15 09:52 Benny-: rip ahahah
2017-06-15 09:54 -Sh1n1-: also this kind of jump01:15:793 (1,2) - 
2017-06-15 09:54 -Sh1n1-: 01:16:099 - deserve hyper dash?
2017-06-15 09:55 -Sh1n1-: there should be a note on 01:16:406 - too cause 01:16:559 (3) - deserve hyper imo
2017-06-15 09:55 Benny-: bbbbut there is no beat in the music there :(
2017-06-15 09:55 -Sh1n1-: where?
2017-06-15 09:56 -Sh1n1-: it's only for the position of the slider
2017-06-15 09:56 -Sh1n1-: for example if 01:16:099 (2) - it's moved to 01:16:253 - 
2017-06-15 09:56 Benny-: okok im confused can you repeat what you mean
2017-06-15 09:56 -Sh1n1-: everything is different
2017-06-15 09:56 -Sh1n1-: u know that I love the song xd
2017-06-15 09:56 Benny-: but then the beat on 01:16:099 - is ignored
2017-06-15 09:57 -Sh1n1-: 01:15:793 (1) - should be moved to the next beat too
2017-06-15 09:57 -Sh1n1-: and 1 note on 01:15:793 - 
2017-06-15 09:58 Benny-: ohh okay
2017-06-15 09:58 -Sh1n1-: http://puu.sh/wkPkX/f78b56cca6.avi
2017-06-15 09:58 -Sh1n1-: let me know if you can see it
2017-06-15 10:02 Benny-: aa that link made my osu freeze for a whole minute LOL
2017-06-15 10:02 -Sh1n1-: hahaha
2017-06-15 10:02 -Sh1n1-: :c sorry
2017-06-15 10:02 Benny-: but idk if i can see it cause i have mac xD
2017-06-15 10:03 -Sh1n1-: ok, I'll upload to my youtube channel give me a sec
2017-06-15 10:03 Benny-: oh
2017-06-15 10:03 Benny-: https://puu.sh/wkQbl/7ea5cd19e8.png
2017-06-15 10:03 Benny-: cause it just says updating xD
2017-06-15 10:04 -Sh1n1-: xd
2017-06-15 10:07 -Sh1n1-: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBmyC2iOVBM&feature=youtu.be
2017-06-15 10:07 -Sh1n1-: O.o
2017-06-15 10:07 -Sh1n1-: now
2017-06-15 10:07 -Sh1n1-: ??
2017-06-15 10:09 Benny-: 2 sec my friend called
2017-06-15 10:09 Benny-: eeeeee
2017-06-15 10:09 -Sh1n1-: xddd
2017-06-15 10:13 Benny-: ok
2017-06-15 10:14 -Sh1n1-: did u see it?
2017-06-15 10:14 -Sh1n1-: watch*
2017-06-15 10:14 -Sh1n1-: ayy correct me pls
2017-06-15 10:14 -Sh1n1-: xd
2017-06-15 10:14 Benny-: yeah just watched it
2017-06-15 10:14 Benny-: HAHA
2017-06-15 10:14 Benny-: still, both work
2017-06-15 10:14 Benny-: see watch
2017-06-15 10:14 Benny-: doesn't matter
2017-06-15 10:14 -Sh1n1-: watch is for tv or reading only
2017-06-15 10:15 Benny-: the only thing i don't like is that I'm emphasising the snares
2017-06-15 10:15 Benny-: 01:16:099 - like here
2017-06-15 10:17 -Sh1n1-: ok but add a note on 01:16:406 - to create a hyperdash with 01:16:559 (3) - 
2017-06-15 10:18 -Sh1n1-: mmm I still think that 01:16:099 (2) - at 01:16:253 - follows vocal better
2017-06-15 10:19 Benny-: but then it's inconsistent with the rest of the map
2017-06-15 10:19 Benny-: 00:26:661 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - example
2017-06-15 10:19 -Sh1n1-: well there is no vocal there
2017-06-15 10:20 -Sh1n1-: there are diferent
2017-06-15 10:20 Benny-: i know xd
2017-06-15 10:20 -Sh1n1-: they*
2017-06-15 10:20 Benny-: i know OWO
2017-06-15 10:24 Benny-: aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
2017-06-15 10:24 Benny-: ok i will do it as you say :(((((((((
2017-06-15 10:24 Benny-: i hate vocals
2017-06-15 10:24 Benny-: hate
2017-06-15 10:24 Benny-: hate hate hate hate
2017-06-15 10:24 Benny-: hate
2017-06-15 10:24 Benny-: hate hate hate hate
2017-06-15 10:24 Benny-: vocals ew
2017-06-15 10:24 -Sh1n1-: xddd
2017-06-15 10:29 Benny-: ok maybe i fixed it
2017-06-15 10:33 -Sh1n1-: send the code on pm owo
2017-06-15 10:33 -Sh1n1-: or puush idk
2017-06-15 10:33 -Sh1n1-: I wanna see :3
2017-06-15 10:34 Benny-: 01:25:742 (1,2,3,4) - i also fixed it here
2017-06-15 10:35 -Sh1n1-: nice
2017-06-15 10:38 Benny-: better?
2017-06-15 10:39 -Sh1n1-: send me the code?
2017-06-15 10:39 -Sh1n1-: or puush :3
2017-06-15 10:39 Benny-: oh i sent on discord since puush is slow but i can send puush instead owo
2017-06-15 10:40 -Sh1n1-: ohhh
2017-06-15 10:40 Benny-: https://puu.sh/wkRTG/ae37859046.osu
2017-06-15 10:40 -Sh1n1-: didn't notice xd
2017-06-15 10:40 Benny-: :3
2017-06-15 10:43 -Sh1n1-: 01:14:416 (3) - why is still a normal note? doesn't it better as slider?
2017-06-15 10:45 -Sh1n1-: wow weird movement at 01:30:487 (1,2) - 
2017-06-15 10:45 -Sh1n1-: that's why I think following snare with hyperdash is not a good idea
2017-06-15 10:45 -Sh1n1-: too much breaks
2017-06-15 10:46 -Sh1n1-: take the last diff of std as an example on structure
2017-06-15 10:46 Benny-: oh forgot to fix that
2017-06-15 10:46 Benny-: lmao
2017-06-15 10:46 -Sh1n1-: my main problem is kiai
2017-06-15 10:46 -Sh1n1-: the rest is fine imo
2017-06-15 10:47 -Sh1n1-: that's why I gave u an example
2017-06-15 10:51 Benny-: I just don''t wanna add notes on non audible beats
2017-06-15 10:51 Benny-: but ok i resend my diff so you can see my changes
2017-06-15 10:52 -Sh1n1-: discord?
2017-06-15 10:52 Benny-: puush
2017-06-15 10:52 Benny-: 2 sec
2017-06-15 10:52 Benny-: https://puu.sh/wkStT/b9d6aef5de.osu
2017-06-15 10:53 -Sh1n1-: yeeeahh
2017-06-15 10:53 -Sh1n1-: muuuuuch better
2017-06-15 10:54 -Sh1n1-: <3
2017-06-15 10:54 Benny-: yay <3
2017-06-15 10:56 -Sh1n1-: 01:27:885 (4,5) - reduce such jump pls
2017-06-15 10:56 -Sh1n1-: :c
2017-06-15 10:56 -Sh1n1-: consistency uwu
2017-06-15 10:57 Benny-: oops
2017-06-15 10:57 Benny-: yes fixed
2017-06-15 10:58 -Sh1n1-: mmm 01:12:885 (3,4,1) - this transition is kinda unconfortable idk, jump between 01:13:191 (4,1) - is good, the antiflow kills me cause previously u have a change of direction on 01:12:885 (3,4) - 
2017-06-15 11:00 Benny-: what do you mean haha
2017-06-15 11:01 Benny-: how do you want it to be fixed
2017-06-15 11:02 -Sh1n1-: maybe less movement at 01:13:191 (4) - but it's ok, better forget it
2017-06-15 11:02 -Sh1n1-: haha
2017-06-15 11:03 Benny-: ok oqo
2017-06-15 11:03 Benny-: owo
2017-06-15 11:03 -Sh1n1-: I'm tired of this antiflow 01:20:691 (1,2,3) - 
2017-06-15 11:03 -Sh1n1-: is like too repetitive
2017-06-15 11:03 -Sh1n1-: for example rotate 01:20:691 (1) - into 180ª
2017-06-15 11:03 -Sh1n1-: º*
2017-06-15 11:05 Benny-: but what about the other notes xDD
2017-06-15 11:06 Benny-: dw i'll fix
2017-06-15 11:06 Benny-: ok
2017-06-15 11:06 Benny-: just let me think
2017-06-15 11:09 Benny-: ok i think i fixed
2017-06-15 11:09 Benny-: but another way
2017-06-15 11:10 -Sh1n1-: okie
2017-06-15 11:10 -Sh1n1-: 00:32:783 (6,7) - reduce the distance
2017-06-15 11:11 Benny-: why :(
2017-06-15 11:11 Benny-: it's not long at all
2017-06-15 11:12 -Sh1n1-: it longer
2017-06-15 11:12 -Sh1n1-: if u take a look
2017-06-15 11:12 -Sh1n1-: for example if you change 00:32:783 (6,7) - 
2017-06-15 11:12 -Sh1n1-: into slider
2017-06-15 11:12 -Sh1n1-: there will be a distance of 1.00 between each fruit
2017-06-15 11:12 Benny-: na
2017-06-15 11:12 Benny-: the snares
2017-06-15 11:12 -Sh1n1-: right now is 1.60x
2017-06-15 11:12 Benny-: it's supposed to be a dash
2017-06-15 11:13 Benny-: 01:21:763 (5,6) -
2017-06-15 11:13 Benny-: like that ><
2017-06-15 11:13 Benny-: 01:31:559 (5,6) - and then it gets longer OWO
2017-06-15 11:14 -Sh1n1-: yes but the difference is because previously you don't have a hyperdash
2017-06-15 11:15 Benny-: ok removed the hyperdash then xd
2017-06-15 11:15 -Sh1n1-: what what
2017-06-15 11:15 -Sh1n1-: are u sure? ok
2017-06-15 11:15 Benny-: 00:32:477 (5,6) - between here
2017-06-15 11:15 -Sh1n1-: it works too
2017-06-15 11:15 -Sh1n1-: okay
2017-06-15 11:15 Benny-: Cause i wanna keep the dash
2017-06-15 11:16 Benny-: can i increase the dash
2017-06-15 11:16 Benny-: xDDD
2017-06-15 11:16 -Sh1n1-: hahaha
2017-06-15 11:16 -Sh1n1-: ACTION slaps benny
2017-06-15 11:16 -Sh1n1-: nooo
2017-06-15 11:16 -Sh1n1-: :c
2017-06-15 11:16 Benny-: I CARE FOR MY DASHES OK XD
2017-06-15 11:17 -Sh1n1-: uwuwuwu
2017-06-15 11:17 Benny-: haha okay i removed the dash and fixed the pattern a bit
2017-06-15 11:17 -Sh1n1-: ok don't kill me pls
2017-06-15 11:17 -Sh1n1-: :c
2017-06-15 11:17 -Sh1n1-: nice
2017-06-15 11:17 Benny-: I'm not going to kill you haha
2017-06-15 11:18 Benny-: :D
2017-06-15 11:18 -Sh1n1-: xd
2017-06-15 11:18 -Sh1n1-: well now send me the final link
2017-06-15 11:18 -Sh1n1-: muaha
2017-06-15 11:18 -Sh1n1-: -haha
2017-06-15 11:18 Benny-: okok
2017-06-15 11:18 Benny-: https://puu.sh/wkTHv/39135b6fb8.osu
2017-06-15 11:19 Benny-: UWUWUWUUWUWUW
2017-06-15 11:21 -Sh1n1-: wtf what did u do on the unicode title
2017-06-15 11:21 -Sh1n1-: xddd
2017-06-15 11:21 -Sh1n1-: haha
2017-06-15 11:21 -Sh1n1-: bakaa
2017-06-15 11:21 Benny-: it's my mac
2017-06-15 11:21 Benny-: haha
2017-06-15 11:21 Benny-: it's a mac bug
2017-06-15 11:21 Benny-: that happens to sinnoh as well
2017-06-15 11:21 -Sh1n1-: xdd
2017-06-15 11:21 -Sh1n1-: mac sucks
2017-06-15 11:22 -Sh1n1-: naa, I want a mac too :'(
2017-06-15 11:22 -Sh1n1-: send me one
2017-06-15 11:22 Benny-: it's because mac doesn't have the unicode fonts i think
2017-06-15 11:22 Benny-: like the japanse stuff
2017-06-15 11:24 -Sh1n1-: uwu
2017-06-15 11:24 Benny-: fuk i hurt my toe
2017-06-15 11:25 -Sh1n1-: hahah how?
2017-06-15 11:26 Benny-: i ran downstairs and up again and kicked in the edge of the stairrrrrrrr
2017-06-15 11:26 Benny-: aaaaaaa
2017-06-15 11:26 Benny-: fuck it hurts
2017-06-15 11:26 Benny-: is it better now? uwuwuwu
2017-06-15 11:26 -Sh1n1-: haha yes
2017-06-15 11:29 Benny-: good :3
2017-06-15 11:29 -Sh1n1-: shit I miss 00:34:314 (1,2) - 
2017-06-15 11:30 -Sh1n1-: reduce distance
2017-06-15 11:31 Benny-: ok~
2017-06-15 11:33 -Sh1n1-: 00:55:130 (1,2) - 00:57:579 (1,2) - 01:02:477 (1,2) - 01:04:926 (1,2) - mmm cool variation
2017-06-15 11:34 -Sh1n1-: loool
2017-06-15 11:34 Benny-: owo
2017-06-15 11:36 -Sh1n1-: 00:58:038 (2,3) - this one doesn't follow the melody propertly imo, something light without a lot of movement could be great
2017-06-15 11:36 -Sh1n1-: what do you think?
2017-06-15 11:37 Benny-: i don't think the spacing is any different with the other
2017-06-15 11:37 -Sh1n1-: no no
2017-06-15 11:37 -Sh1n1-: the zigzag movement
2017-06-15 11:38 Benny-: oh ok, tilted the slider to the right instead then
2017-06-15 11:38 Benny-: xd
2017-06-15 11:38 -Sh1n1-: haha okie
2017-06-15 11:40 Benny-: uwu
2017-06-15 11:45 Benny-: I'll brb a bit
2017-06-15 11:46 -Sh1n1-: okie
2017-06-15 11:46 -Sh1n1-: before go send me the last code
2017-06-15 11:53 Benny-: oh
2017-06-15 11:54 Benny-: https://puu.sh/wkVmZ/05a118c817.osu
2017-06-15 12:00 -Sh1n1-: uwu don't kill me
2017-06-15 12:00 -Sh1n1-: 00:33:701 (2,3,1) - 01:39:365 (2,1) - last one
2017-06-15 12:00 -Sh1n1-: in both cases
2017-06-15 12:00 -Sh1n1-: reduce the distance
2017-06-15 12:00 -Sh1n1-: specially the first one
2017-06-15 12:00 -Sh1n1-: and that's all
2017-06-15 12:01 Benny-: okok
2017-06-15 12:09 Benny-: nothing else? owo
2017-06-15 12:10 -Sh1n1-: nothing else

Call me after Std tier 2 check

Zer0-

177 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

Zer0- 2017-06-16T09:10:33+00:00

I dunno why it takes a long while for the ending, maybe cause the song keeps going for a little bit, also fixed a stack at 01:47:477 (5,6) - in std topdiff

Also I have permission from kanari to use the storyboard don't worry

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2017-06-17T15:51:51+00:00

👀

general
you have 2 sb files, delete "Flower - Akikaze no Answer (Short Ver.) (Zer0-).osb"

hs
could probably add whistles on the start of each measure in the intro cause it sounds a bit empty ( 00:01:253 - 00:03:701 - etc)
00:10:895 - should have like 5% volume on all diffs that have it as spinner, you can add a few more green lines starting from around 00:11:661 - to make the spinnerspin sound fade in if you want, but 30% the whole time is too loud

rain
00:08:599 (1) - you usually changed direction on these 1/1 spots in the intro (like 00:03:395 (3,1) - ), so emphasis seemed a bit lacking here cause movement is so linear

answer
00:14:416 (4,1) - think it would make more sense if you swapped these and similar nc cause that fits much better with how you mapped it
00:18:855 (2,3) - how about stacking these on 00:18:089 (5,6) - ? current placement feels a bit unorganized in comparison to this part

01:00:487 (3,4) - jump on 01:00:640 (4) - instead seems more reasonable with melody/vocals and how you mapped similar things before, just stack 01:00:334 (2,3) - instead

01:11:278 - silenced tail would fit better
01:16:559 (4) - how about ctrlg on this? would make for a consistent movement pattern on 01:16:253 (3,4,5) - to match vocals and make the movement onto 01:16:865 (5) - feel more fitting as it lacks some emphasis currently
01:20:538 (5,1) - similar as earlier nc suggestion for these // 01:42:579 (4,1) - and in this part too
01:21:457 (4,1) - just move nay of these slightly cause triggering distance
01:25:436 (4,5) - should be closer to make more sense in comparison to other 1/8 gaps https://lasse.s-ul.eu/XIEMmcSL.jpg

01:31:865 (1,2) - map vocals but then 01:32:783 (3,4) - map drums, which usually could work, but here they follow completely different snapping, should decide for 1/3 or 1/4 for this phrase (1/3 seems better)
01:35:130 - think something like https://lasse.s-ul.eu/M0D2sSgw.jpg could make vocal - drum transition more intuitive

01:37:375 (4,5,6) - should asjust for autostacking cause it looks like you wanted it to be like https://lasse.s-ul.eu/Z1MQr15m.jpg

01:37:987 (1) - this is suddenly so undermapped when vocals are still 1/3

seems alright overall, but the 1/3 part could make it more clear what you are following and focus on that as it seems to change a lot between drums/vocals
your hard and mir's diff both do it better, this just seemed like you tried to map too many things at once that also have conflicting snapping

mir
lower ar pls

9 just seemed to high considering difficulty of the map and how it was mapped, around 8.7 might be nice
01:11:201 (2) - noticeably off, could probably just map https://lasse.s-ul.eu/MEgm0iZJ.jpg ? seems weird to simplify this to 1/4 snap when 01:10:436 (3,4) - map 1/16 ticks
same nc suggestion as top diff on spots like 00:14:416 (3,1) - as that seems more fitting with the song
00:17:783 (3) - should silence ends of these and similar ones cause random 1/8 hs rhythm sounds stupid there
01:02:477 (1,2,3) - this 1/4 patterning seems so out of place with other ones you used. something like https://lasse.s-ul.eu/f5jMi4OA.jpg seems better

hard
00:52:528 (4,1) - this really need some kind of jump
01:10:436 (4,5) - no, don't put buzz sliders on hard :/ could just https://lasse.s-ul.eu/LKuOKbnj.jpg
00:56:048 (1,2) - gross with autostacking, move the stack a bit down
01:15:793 (5,1,2,3) - just looks really bad, can't you get some kind of shape instead, like https://lasse.s-ul.eu/CPZBKyQJ.jpg
01:45:028 (4,5,1,2) - autostacking triggered // 01:47:171 (3,4,5) -

chaos
00:31:099 (2) - what is this mapped to? mapping 00:31:253 - seems more reasonable
00:47:018 (6) - is alright with vocals, but 00:47:171 - is like the most outstanding beat of this part, could so something like https://lasse.s-ul.eu/8RcwZg5A.jpg
00:50:232 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - could be a bit too complex for the intended difficulty. could do https://streamable.com/2enww which also gives nice emphasis on 00:52:069 (7) - with how it breaks movement
01:09:212 (1,1) - overlapping would help readability a bit I think
01:26:355 (6) - similar to the other stack pattern, something like https://lasse.s-ul.eu/L6MpMXP3.jpg seems alright?
01:36:763 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - even spacing would make this much more intuitive to read and play
01:46:865 - something like https://lasse.s-ul.eu/t4ORBQZ6.jpg seems more fitting rhythmically

normal
od is too high with easy only using 2, 4 would be better

lanturn
this slider spam..
00:33:089 - could replace a few sliders like 00:35:538 (3) - with a single circle to provide a few moments were beginners actually get some rest from permantly aiming and holding keys
diff is fine, but a bit better balance between sliders and circles would be great since this diff is aimed at complete beginners that tend to have more problems with sliders/don't even know how they work

[]
poke me when the set is bubbled

btw the sb thing is caused by values like

should be set to something like 116355 I guess?
which is 01:56:355 -

Zer0-

177 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

Zer0- 2017-06-17T17:57:12+00:00

Lasse wrote:

👀

general
you have 2 sb files, delete "Flower - Akikaze no Answer (Short Ver.) (Zer0-).osb" did

hs
could probably add whistles on the start of each measure in the intro cause it sounds a bit empty ( 00:01:253 - 00:03:701 - etc)
00:10:895 - should have like 5% volume on all diffs that have it as spinner, you can add a few more green lines starting from around 00:11:661 - to make the spinnerspin sound fade in if you want, but 30% the whole time is too loud Alright did this for my diffs

answer
00:14:416 (4,1) - think it would make more sense if you swapped these and similar nc cause that fits much better with how you mapped it yeah did this
00:18:855 (2,3) - how about stacking these on 00:18:089 (5,6) - ? current placement feels a bit unorganized in comparison to this part alright

01:00:487 (3,4) - jump on 01:00:640 (4) - instead seems more reasonable with melody/vocals and how you mapped similar things before, just stack 01:00:334 (2,3) - instead I will keep the way I have the stacking in this point as I always stack the double kicks, tho I did adjust the pattern right after a bit as the rhythm was slightly weird imo

01:11:278 - silenced tail would fit better yeah alright
01:16:559 (4) - how about ctrlg on this? would make for a consistent movement pattern on 01:16:253 (3,4,5) - to match vocals and make the movement onto 01:16:865 (5) - feel more fitting as it lacks some emphasis currently yeah seems cool I'll do it
01:20:538 (5,1) - similar as earlier nc suggestion for these // 01:42:579 (4,1) - and in this part too mhm
01:21:457 (4,1) - just move nay of these slightly cause triggering distance d
01:25:436 (4,5) - should be closer to make more sense in comparison to other 1/8 gaps https://lasse.s-ul.eu/XIEMmcSL.jpg sure

01:31:865 (1,2) - map vocals but then 01:32:783 (3,4) - map drums, which usually could work, but here they follow completely different snapping, should decide for 1/3 or 1/4 for this phrase (1/3 seems better)
01:35:130 - think something like https://lasse.s-ul.eu/M0D2sSgw.jpg could make vocal - drum transition more intuitive ye

01:37:375 (4,5,6) - should asjust for autostacking cause it looks like you wanted it to be like https://lasse.s-ul.eu/Z1MQr15m.jpg

01:37:987 (1) - this is suddenly so undermapped when vocals are still 1/3
Remapped almost all of 1/3 part completely, it's more like what I had in mind from the start, with my almost exclusively focusing on the 1/3 vocals, I would appreciate if you could look at it now and see if it's better

seems alright overall, but the 1/3 part could make it more clear what you are following and focus on that as it seems to change a lot between drums/vocals
your hard and mir's diff both do it better, this just seemed like you tried to map too many things at once that also have conflicting snapping

hard
00:52:528 (4,1) - this really need some kind of jump sure
01:10:436 (4,5) - no, don't put buzz sliders on hard :/ could just https://lasse.s-ul.eu/LKuOKbnj.jpg alright lol
00:56:048 (1,2) - gross with autostacking, move the stack a bit down k
01:15:793 (5,1,2,3) - just looks really bad, can't you get some kind of shape instead, like https://lasse.s-ul.eu/CPZBKyQJ.jpg adjusted it
01:45:028 (4,5,1,2) - autostacking triggered // 01:47:171 (3,4,5) - xd

normal
od is too high with easy only using 2, 4 would be better ok

[]
poke me when the set is bubbled

btw the sb thing is caused by values like

should be set to something like 116355 I guess?
which is 01:56:355 - fixed this and added a fade out from the end of the spinner ~

Thanks Lasse 👀

Mir

osu! Alumni

2,151 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-06-17T19:22:21+00:00

Lasse wrote:

👀

mir
lower ar pls
9 just seemed to high considering difficulty of the map and how it was mapped, around 8.7 might be nice
01:11:201 (2) - noticeably off, could probably just map https://lasse.s-ul.eu/MEgm0iZJ.jpg ? seems weird to simplify this to 1/4 snap when 01:10:436 (3,4) - map 1/16 ticks
same nc suggestion as top diff on spots like 00:14:416 (3,1) - as that seems more fitting with the song
00:17:783 (3) - should silence ends of these and similar ones cause random 1/8 hs rhythm sounds stupid there
01:02:477 (1,2,3) - this 1/4 patterning seems so out of place with other ones you used. something like https://lasse.s-ul.eu/f5jMi4OA.jpg seems better

fixed all again

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Chaos

osu! Alumni

244 posts

Joined May 2013

Chaos 2017-06-17T20:01:30+00:00

Lasse wrote:
chaos
00:31:099 (2) - what is this mapped to? mapping 00:31:253 - seems more reasonable the vocal change as done previously in the intro. I'd like to keep it this way as I emphasize the vocals throughout the entire diff
00:47:018 (6) - is alright with vocals, but 00:47:171 - is like the most outstanding beat of this part, could so something like https://lasse.s-ul.eu/8RcwZg5A.jpg for the same reason as above, I'd like to keep it this way as it best matches the vocals. I know that I skip over strong percussion sounds due to my choices but I wanted the map to follow the singing wherever possible.
00:50:232 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - could be a bit too complex for the intended difficulty. could do https://streamable.com/2enww which also gives nice emphasis on 00:52:069 (7) - with how it breaks movement Done
01:09:212 (1,1) - overlapping would help readability a bit I think changed to https://chaos.s-ul.eu/KVSa5rfx.png, let me know if this is something like what you had in mind
01:26:355 (6) - similar to the other stack pattern, something like https://lasse.s-ul.eu/L6MpMXP3.jpg seems alright? changed
01:36:763 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - even spacing would make this much more intuitive to read and play I did https://chaos.s-ul.eu/vMA9s1kq.png, again let me know if you had something else in mind
01:46:865 - something like https://lasse.s-ul.eu/t4ORBQZ6.jpg seems more fitting rhythmically fixed to https://chaos.s-ul.eu/WF3cAe6Z.png

Thanks a lot for the mod, let me know if this is all alright with you.

update

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Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Benita 2017-06-17T20:26:40+00:00

Added a direction change I guess lmao

http://puu.sh/wmT7B/fef7b05e76.osu

Lanturn

osu! Alumni

3,912 posts

Joined March 2012

Lanturn 2017-06-19T05:59:29+00:00

Lasse wrote:
lanturn
this slider spam..
00:33:089 - could replace a few sliders like 00:35:538 (3) - with a single circle to provide a few moments were beginners actually get some rest from permantly aiming and holding keys
diff is fine, but a bit better balance between sliders and circles would be great since this diff is aimed at complete beginners that tend to have more problems with sliders/don't even know how they work

To keep the rhythm consistent, I would only be able to change a few of these. The vocals are too random in certain sections that if I followed them extensively, it would more than likely throw the player off. I don't mind adding a few more circles, though it does break a lot of my symmetry though. I can add 3 more circles this way in the 2nd section and remove 3 sliders (though previous sliders have repeats on them now). This will at least get rid of the 1/1 spam for that whole section.

As for breaks and such. This song doesn't really have those moments where they could be implemented. Maybe 00:28:191 (1,2) - is a possibility, but that's still finishing up the previous measures, and it doesn't really warrant the necessary gaps you're looking for. Since the Rhythm is pretty consistent, it's hard to cut anything off without it being too awkward.

Anyways. I changed a couple things at 00:35:538 (3,4,3,4,3,4) - but that's about it. This map was made long before the 'too many sliders' thing anyways, and with the consistency and placement of them, they won't be that difficult to complete for new players.

Thanks Lasse

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-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

-Sh1n1- 2017-06-20T22:44:25+00:00

Rain

Re-recheck
Well, it's time to be picky... sorry for the inconvenience.

00:14:110 (4,1,2) - vs 00:23:906 (3,1,2) - vs 01:42:274 (3,1,2) - keep consistency.
00:16:559 (3,1) - does it deserve hyperdash? taking 00:26:355 (3,1,2) - as a reference, I don't think so.
00:17:324 (3,4) - talking about structure, I feel that note is first then slider as you did on 00:27:120 (3,4) - and I'll explain you why: obviously the sound of 00:17:477 - is stronger than 00:17:630 - but 00:17:630 (4) - have a movement while 00:17:477 - not, I'm not suggesting a jump, I wanna see a movement between 00:17:324 - and 00:17:477 - to follow the sound propertly.
00:30:028 (5,6) - I'm ok with distances, my problem is... the current linear transition, it's like you need to smash the keyboard more than twuice to catch it, my sugestion is: try to make 00:30:334 (6) - less horizontal, something like 00:21:457 (3) - maybe.
00:34:161 (3,1) - reduce it a bit more, you are trying to enphasize vocal right?, but taking 00:43:804 (3,4,1) - 00:46:253 (3,4,1) - 00:48:701 (3,4,1) - etc as a reference, it looks like inconsistency.
00:36:610 (3,1) - same as above.
00:42:273 (3) - missing clap right? also 00:41:967 - feels empty.
00:56:967 (6,1) - remove hyperdash here cause there isn't something prominent that deserve it, 00:56:661 (5,6) - is enough.
01:19:620 (1,2) - try to reduce this distance and increase at 01:19:773 (2,3) - to make a better visual distance, it might looks nicer if you increase gradually the distance between each object.
01:22:681 (3,4,5) - overenphasized imo, I can understand on 01:21:457 (4,5,6) - cause sounds at 01:21:763 - and 01:21:916 - are prominent but at 01:22:987 (4,5) - the sounds are not enough strong, so move 01:22:987 (4) - a bit to the left.
01:47:172 (3,1) - is this a screen wall hyper?
01:50:845 (5) - slant it to the right but keep the current distance with next notes: 01:51:150 (6,7,1) -, this is to make a better transition, for example 01:50:539 (4,5,6,7) -, after the jump between 01:50:539 (4,5) -, you should stop and be quiet to catch 01:50:845 (5) - and then you have a zig zag jump, this is unconfortable tbh.

General

Epilepsy Warning pls

Answer of the Autumn Wind

Check your snaps carefully, first of all I want to know why 01:34:314 (1) - is finishing on 1/4? following your previous patterns: 01:31:865 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3) - you were following this part on 1/6, also 01:34:722 (2,3,4) - is overmapping imo, there isn't something prominent to deserve this kind of sliders.
01:33:701 (1) - 01:36:150 (8) - I want to ask you about this kind of snapping too, talking about the first one, 01:33:701 (1) -: voice finish at 01:34:008 -, plus there is a low piano sound there, same at 01:36:457 -, take mir's insane and benny's rain as an example. (this should be applied on hard too)

Zer0-

177 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

Zer0- 2017-06-20T23:35:57+00:00

-Sh1n1- wrote:

General
Epilepsy Warning pls fixed on all diffs, didnt think it would be needed but added just to be sure

Answer of the Autumn Wind
Check your snaps carefully, first of all I want to know why 01:34:314 (1) - is finishing on 1/4? This is the same on 1/4 and 1/3, the tick it ends on that is. following your previous patterns: 01:31:865 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3) - you were following this part on 1/6, also 01:34:722 (2,3,4) - is overmapping imo, there isn't something prominent to deserve this kind of sliders. ok I fixed this lol
01:33:701 (1) - 01:36:150 (8) - I want to ask you about this kind of snapping too, talking about the first one, 01:33:701 (1) -: voice finish at 01:34:008 -, plus there is a low piano sound there, same at 01:36:457 -, take mir's insane and benny's rain as an example. (this should be applied on hard too) did this on topdiff and hard

Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Benita 2017-06-21T16:46:22+00:00

-Sh1n1- wrote:

Re-recheck
Well, it's time to be picky... sorry for the inconvenience.

00:14:110 (4,1,2) - vs 00:23:906 (3,1,2) - vs 01:42:274 (3,1,2) - keep consistency. - Made them equally emphasised
00:16:559 (3,1) - does it deserve hyperdash? taking 00:26:355 (3,1,2) - as a reference, I don't think so. - I think so, yes xD You pointed out that one place where it didn't have a hdash as reference so added a hdash there instead lmao, all other beats like that has hyperdash
00:17:324 (3,4) - talking about structure, I feel that note is first then slider as you did on 00:27:120 (3,4) - and I'll explain you why: obviously the sound of 00:17:477 - is stronger than 00:17:630 - but 00:17:630 (4) - have a movement while 00:17:477 - not, I'm not suggesting a jump, I wanna see a movement between 00:17:324 - and 00:17:477 - to follow the sound propertly. - Fixed
00:30:028 (5,6) - I'm ok with distances, my problem is... the current linear transition, it's like you need to smash the keyboard more than twuice to catch it, my sugestion is: try to make 00:30:334 (6) - less horizontal, something like 00:21:457 (3) - maybe. - Fixed
00:34:161 (3,1) - reduce it a bit more, you are trying to enphasize vocal right?, but taking 00:43:804 (3,4,1) - 00:46:253 (3,4,1) - 00:48:701 (3,4,1) - etc as a reference, it looks like inconsistency. - Fixed
00:36:610 (3,1) - same as above. - Fixed
00:42:273 (3) - missing clap right? also 00:41:967 - feels empty. - Went over the whole map fixing hs inconsistensies!
00:56:967 (6,1) - remove hyperdash here cause there isn't something prominent that deserve it, 00:56:661 (5,6) - is enough. - I'll remove 5,6 instead cause I wanna keep hyper to downbeat!
01:19:620 (1,2) - try to reduce this distance and increase at 01:19:773 (2,3) - to make a better visual distance, it might looks nicer if you increase gradually the distance between each object. - To keep the two first notes consistent with the way I emphasised the drums in the rest of the map, I changed the slider after to make a visually better looking pattern
01:22:681 (3,4,5) - overenphasized imo, I can understand on 01:21:457 (4,5,6) - cause sounds at 01:21:763 - and 01:21:916 - are prominent but at 01:22:987 (4,5) - the sounds are not enough strong, so move 01:22:987 (4) - a bit to the left. - Decreased
01:47:172 (3,1) - is this a screen wall hyper? - It's more than 30 pixels from the wall so I wouldn't call it a wall hyper as the RC says it has to be more than 12 pixels from the edge of the playfield... but if you insist i change it, i will
01:50:845 (5) - slant it to the right but keep the current distance with next notes: 01:51:150 (6,7,1) -, this is to make a better transition, for example 01:50:539 (4,5,6,7) -, after the jump between 01:50:539 (4,5) -, you should stop and be quiet to catch 01:50:845 (5) - and then you have a zig zag jump, this is unconfortable tbh. - I don't think there's anything wrong with how this plays out, it's actually more or less the same pattern that is used previously in the map 01:24:824 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - and i really like this pattern ):

Thanks!

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-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

-Sh1n1- 2017-06-21T18:05:07+00:00

Fixed a pixel jump and WS on Chaos diff, we are ready to go :3

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2017-06-23T15:32:48+00:00

recheck

wind
00:23:293 (1) - lacks emphasis, you put noticeable spacing increase on similar beats in this part so it feels too weak in comparison. a very simple solution would be something like http://i.imgur.com/GdVV0Mw.jpg but there are many more that make sense

01:11:355 - think this could have nc cause of change in music (and it makes your star and actual 5 object pattern)
or nc on 01:11:661 - either solution would be nice

01:34:926 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - should make nc patterning here match surrouding patterns cause 8 notes thin seems out of place. either follow however vocals go or use measure/vocal based thing from before like http://i.imgur.com/wDvzxqk.jpg
01:38:599 - ^

mir
01:40:436 (1,3) - manual stack here intentional? looks fine but you never used something similar before so just make sure

hard
00:16:865 (4) - might want to apply nc changes from top diff for this one too // 00:29:110 -
00:50:385 - random kick, should be soft/auto

normal
since when is this hp5 lol
should be 4 or something
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should be all now

Mir

osu! Alumni

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Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-06-23T15:51:07+00:00

@Lasse done that and added a kiai section cuz i felt it fits the song's intensity, hopefully that's okay

also @Zer0- watch your hitsound at 01:34:314 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - on topdiff it's not properly done so fix that too before you call him back
- 01:37:987 (1,2,3) - also why is this lower intensity than 01:36:763 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - when the pitch is increasing wouldn't it get more spaced instead of less spaced?

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Tags:Hanadokei Mio Nakajima Shuuka Fujii Manami Shigetome Reina Washio Kyoka Ichiki Nozomi Bando Harumi Sato Chiharu Muto Mir Benny- BennyBananas Lanturn Chaos Zero Kanari
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Zer0-

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Zer0- 2017-07-05T23:07:25+00:00

Am back finally

Lasse wrote:
recheck

wind
00:23:293 (1) - lacks emphasis, you put noticeable spacing increase on similar beats in this part so it feels too weak in comparison. a very simple solution would be something like http://i.imgur.com/GdVV0Mw.jpg but there are many more that make sense fixed

01:11:355 - think this could have nc cause of change in music (and it makes your star and actual 5 object pattern) okay
or nc on 01:11:661 - either solution would be nice

01:34:926 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - should make nc patterning here match surrouding patterns cause 8 notes thin seems out of place. either follow however vocals go or use measure/vocal based thing from before like http://i.imgur.com/wDvzxqk.jpg sure
01:38:599 - ^ ^

hard
00:16:865 (4) - might want to apply nc changes from top diff for this one too // 00:29:110 - ye
00:50:385 - random kick, should be soft/auto ye

normal
since when is this hp5 lol
should be 4 or something fixed
[]

should be all now

Mir wrote:

@Lasse done that and added a kiai section cuz i felt it fits the song's intensity, hopefully that's okay

also @Zer0- watch your hitsound at 01:34:314 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - on topdiff it's not properly done so fix that too before you call him back
- 01:37:987 (1,2,3) - also why is this lower intensity than 01:36:763 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - when the pitch is increasing wouldn't it get more spaced instead of less spaced? made it more spaced anjd fixd the hitsounds i think

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